July 2, 2024 • 50 mins
Hey there, Loftmates! Hannah and Lamorne return to mess around and recap episode 212: Cabin. Actress Olivia Munn joins us to discuss the conclusion of her three-episode arc as Angie. Olivia shares a personal fan theory on how Angie set up "The Kiss" between Nick and Jess and shares the one condition she had for New Girl show creator Elizabeth Meriwether before agreeing to play an exotic dancer. Plus, the myth behind absinthe and the trepidation and confidence of handling firearms on set.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Today, we have a very special guest with us in
the New Girl universe. You know her as Nick's motorcycle riding,
gunslinging girlfriend Angie. She did three episodes with us in
season two and she's been in countless films and show since.
Please welcome our beloved Olivia mon Hi to this show.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Hi, guys, hell, this is so fun.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
What's up? I mean, that's not.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Everybody.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Hi.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Thanks for hanging out with us.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Oh my gosh, thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Would you say that because a New Girl, your life
is forever better?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
You know what, I'll be better?
Speaker 5 (00:59):
I mean yes, people still come up to me about
the Newsroom and New Girl. Those are the two, and
you always tell the demographic. It's funny because now there's
a whole new life to New Girl, and so a
lot of like younger girls will be coming up talk
to me about New Girl, which is a really sweet
They love it so much. You know. I'll tell you
A big thing that was really impactful for me on
(01:22):
New Girl was I was filming Aaron's Organs the Newsroom
at the time on HBO, an hour long drama, and
then I go do the New Girl, which is comedy,
and it took longer to tape one episode a New
Girl than it did take to take an entire newsroom episode.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I was like, I was blowing away, and then I realized.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
That that the show really happened mostly in the edit,
Like that your show succeeded because we have all these
sounded actors, but this whatever they did in the editing room,
it was they really put the show together. I was
really impressed by like this specific thing. When you're on
(02:06):
set of New Girl, you have your script, your lines,
and then when they get that down after one or
two takes, they come in with pages of alternate lines
and they're just like, okay, now say say this line,
and then if the line was I don't know, good morning,
they'd cut. And then they go okay, now say good afternoon. Okay,
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now say how you doing? Now say what's up? Now.
They just give you every version so that way they
can give you every opportunity to succeed in the edit,
and I thought, well, that's why it takes so long.
But also it was great because everybody when they had
like these their improv lines, so they had thought of anything.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Everything could then be used in the edit if it worked.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
And so I think that's that's a big reason why
it was so successful in my opinion, it's funny.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I mean, we'll get to it as we go through
this episode today we are recapping episode to twelve Cabin.
But I when I was rewatching it, that moment where
they showed David Walton and Zoe and their characters being
really really like drunken, screwed up on absinthe and she
goes like word games, word games, word games.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
And they just cut to him laughing.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I was like, I bet you that took half a
day to shoot of them just having her say it
different ways with it being weird in her mouth, or
like when Jake has the grape. Yeah, just trying to
eat that grape. And I'm like, that must have taken forever.
Just get weirder, get weirder, go bigger, go smaller, And
then that's what they would have, all those choices, and
(03:37):
then they kind of you know, like there's an art
to comedy, Yeah, and what you set in and what
you give space to and what is a quick you know,
cut into and Yeah, it took forever, especially in those
early days of New Girl when they were trying to
really figure out like the rhythm, the tone of this
whole thing. So and this episode I think is perfect
(03:57):
for that because you guys were just literally locked in
this cabin, so they had to have all those choices
for the funny.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Yeah, that was a story of my life in the beginning.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
In the beginning, most of my notes were weirder early. Yeah,
what the fun does that mean?
Speaker 5 (04:15):
Man?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
You know that was most those were my notes, you
know what I mean. And so I would have to
find different ways to get silly. And then you're right,
you would get these alt packs with a million jokes
and but I but I will say, like you said,
that was our saving grace on the show, because you know,
you had the best opportunities to be funny. And obviously
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it resonated with fans because here we go and cool
people like you on the show.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Oh yeah, I will also say too, as an actor,
I realized because in the moment, I remember when I
was like new, like brand new on that show, and
you're doing it over and over again. They're asking different ways.
Like I was always in my head being like I
guess I'm not getting it. I guess I'm not getting
it right because they just keep asking me for it differently,
And what you realize then when you watch the show
(05:05):
and now when we rewatch the show, is that no,
they're like, it's it's such a level of protection and
safety as an actor because.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
They always made you look good.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
They always made sure they got the best of it
and then matched it with the best of someone else
to make it really like be the best it could be.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
And that was the reason for it. But you know,
you can get in your head a little bit.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Okay, so we should dive into this episode, but before Lamonne,
you want to give us a little quick recap and breakdown.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Okay. So in this episode, Just and Sam played by
David Walton, doctor Sam himself. They've planned it perfect weekend getaway. Jess, however,
is a bit hesitant about spending the weekend along with Sam,
so she invites Nick and Angie played by the wonderful
Olivia Mine. Now, meanwhile, back at the loft, this is
when the episode gets a little bit interesting. Schmidt is
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afraid that Winston, who lives with three white folks. He's
afraid that he ain't you know, is experiences are but
not enough. Okay, he's not being his true self, so
he decides to do a Winston Day to turn on
his black switch. I'm not sure if you can get
away of this episode today. Shit, I'm not sure I
(06:14):
would do this episode today. I might. It was still
pretty funny in the moment.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
In the moment back in the day, did you bump
up against it?
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Were you?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Like?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I don't know about this.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
I bumped up against a lot of stuff on this show.
And you know, for the sake of comedy. The older
had gotten, the more, you know, the more I fell
in love with comedy, and the more I fell in
love with people making fun of people, the more I
can appreciate it. However, in moments like this, this particular episode,
when you don't got I don't think we had black
writers in the room at that point, so we may
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have had one, and so I was like, well, who
the fuck is writing the storyline? You know, But it's
also to play into the fact that Schmidt is idiot
at times, and he means well, but he's one of
those folks that goes about doing things in the dumbest
of ways, and to highlight that I appreciated it more
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if we weren't highlighting the fact that Schmidt was an idiot.
If it were just you know, or that Winston, it
would be it would be because obviously Winston is doing
this to fuck with him. But if he weren't, if
I would have read that script at the table read
and Winston was not fucking with him, if he genuinely
wanted to go and search from crack, I would have
(07:35):
walked out of that rope. I would have walked out
of that room with a lot of money in my pocket.
I would have sued, Yeah, well, I.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Think what was interesting too, is like what I appreciated
about it because I was.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
I watched it and I was just like, oh god.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
But I was like, because certain times you watch things
back you're like, I don't know about this anymore. But
the fact that Winston's character is like a hard no.
In the beginning, yeah, I fuxed him a little bit,
but then he just stays.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
A hard no.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Even at the end, right when Schmid's like, you know,
chocolate vanilla swirl, He's like.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
No and walks out.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
There's not a moment of like, I get it, you know,
I appreciate you, Like that really doesn't happen. It's just
like this is inappropriate. You're over compensating for your white guild.
I have no space for it. Figure that out by
and it stays in that lane. I think it is
the only saving grace of the storyline for me.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
I remember when that came out, I got a lot
of pushback from from from black folks about it. Sure,
you know, you know that there's a lot there's a
lot of names that you can get called when you're
a part of an episode like this, especially for people
who may have heard about it, didn't see it, didn't
actually watch it, didn't see what the point of it was.
(08:43):
Because Schmidt, as you know, Schmid has a lot of
Indian jokes. His character has a lot of jokes. This
man has a lot. He's just he's just not He
ain't he ain't right up here all the time, and
he's not necessarily in tune. And I think that I
think that device on him works, on that character works
(09:07):
for sure. It's almost almost Archie Bunk, not Archie bunker
ish from all in the family. But it's kind of
one of those things where you're watching the show and
you go, I see what that character is and try
not to take offense necessarily.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Oh right, we dive in y'all, let's die right into
this episode.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
I know we could sit here forever.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yes, we can.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Before we get right into the meat of this episode, though,
do you remember how you were asked or when you
were asked to be part of this New Girl universe,
the call that came in, how it was pitched to you, because, yeah,
you were in the newsroom, which was pretty hard hitting.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
Yeah, I was on the newsroom and I got a
call that I got this offer to do three episodes
on New Girl, and it was to play a stripper.
And I love the New Girl, So I was really
excited and really flattered by the offer, and I just
said I needed to talk to Liz Meriwether before accepting
because I just had one request. I said, I would
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love to play this role. I would love to be
on the show. I just don't want to play a
stripper with a heart of gold. I don't want her
going through med school. I don't want her like I'm
stripping to pay for my kids and my family, and like,
I just want to really, you want to be a lawyer, and.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I'm just the only way to do it.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
I said, I want her to be a stripper who
wants to be a stripper because she makes a ton
of money doing it, and she's good at it and
she has.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
No problem doing it.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
I really just I never really I thought there's a
lot of women who do it because they they're like,
this is a good money maker and why not. And
so Liz was like, okay, yeah, she was like yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
So that wasn't the character like beforehand, like like that
wasn't the backstory of this character. They kind of then
wove that into the and genus of it all.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
You know, I don't know if it was the character.
I think I came up really quick by saying like,
before you even think to even add that in, like
this is this is a deal breaker for me, I
don't because I've already seen that a million times. I've
already seen her, you know that, you know, I just
didn't want I could I could imagine what it was like.
(11:11):
There was like, oh, I'm the stripper, and then Jake's
character meets me and then we fall for each other,
and he's like, she's this great girl who's just wants
to become a dentist and she is what she's doing
to make it through. And I'd be like, I don't
want to be a stripper. I don't you know, this
is a hard life and I really want to get
out of it. And I just I was like, I
just felt like I've already seen that, and that's already
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been represented a million times, So let's show a stripper
in a different way and just show a woman who
dances in gentlemen's clubs in a different way. I just
look like the whole thing was going to be more
interesting to me. And Liz was like, did not blanke
and eye. She's like one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I feel like she's so good at writing those characters too,
that are like smart and unapologetic, unapologetic yeah for whoever,
they are right, And that's what feels refreshing in all
the weird comedy.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
Because you know what the truth is, tell me somebody
in life who really is apologetic. Most people are just
fully themselves in real life. And I think that when
a lot of times women are written, we are written
to be apologetic. Now, it doesn't mean that in real
life we're not always saying like, oh sorry for this,
sorry for that.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
But the truth is, like most people just fully live and.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
Who they are, Like, even if they are an apologic person,
they are unapologetically apologetic to you know what I mean,
Like they are.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
They're just fully living their life and their truth.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
And I'm sure there are a lot of women who
want to strip to get through college or pay for
their bills or whatever and don't really want to do it,
But there are a lot of women who also want
to do it because of all the reasons I said before.
So she did a great job of writing that.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Yeah, that's awesome. It's good money. If you feel good
doing money, that's great.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
I was going to ask, because I know it's called cabin.
We start this episode with them saying they want to
go to this cabin. Were you on because I wasn't
there obviously. Was this a real cabin or were you
guys on the stage?
Speaker 2 (13:07):
No real cabin out there.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
I thought they built it on a stage.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
No, I remember being out in a real cabin because
then we had to do this. We got to like
shoot shotguns and stuff, so we were out.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
We're literally out.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
There hotly shit.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Yeah, get out.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
I don't know why.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
I thought, like, oh, you had like like a location
day for the exterior, but they built the cabin.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Got too. This was at the Fox lot, Got too.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Yeah, exactly, girl. You were on stage fourteen the whole time.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Okay, so we're going to go to a quick commercial break,
and we are back, folks, We are back. We're here
with Olivia Munn recapping the episode Cabin. So, Hannah, go ahead,
what were you going to ask?
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Well, the way we see Olivia first in this episode
is you come roaring up on a motorcycle and then quick,
Jimmy are waiting into like a secret closet and get
these guns out. So my first thought when I rewatched
the episode was have you.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Ever ridden a motorcycle before?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
How comfortable with you or were you in that scene
or did you just like, was there a stunt double
and you just pulled the helmet off and the guns,
Because I personally, anytime I've had these a gun in
a show or a movie, it's the worst day ever
and I dread it and I can't wait for it
to be over.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
Well, I have a motorcycle's license, and yes, so I
got that years ago. However, for like insurance reasons, they
don't let you ride you on a motorcycle. So it
was a stunt double and I take off the helmet
at the end. But I felt comfortable because I know
how to ride a motorcycle and guns. I grew up
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in a military family, so we learned about gun safety
early on. We would go to the gun range early on.
It was just really important to not be afraid of guns,
so that if you know, if we were around them
for whatever reason, we had a really healthy respect for
them and understood how powerful they were. So there was
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a you know, there was no there wasn't a fear.
There was a big respect so that, you know, there
was no playing with guns in our family. There's no
It was like, this is what you do and this
is how powerful it is. So so that did not
break me out.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
When they were when Uh.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
One of the funniest moments I feel like when I
watched the recap is Zoe needing the backstory before she
can shoot something, and then you're giving her the advice,
and I feel like it's Nick that goes like, oh,
it's a this is the fantasy and a nightmare collife.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
The girl you trust the least with the guns.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
And yet I think that was that was an improv
like that was was it really not improv?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
But that was the all oh an all line that
it was the famous All Lives.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
Yeah, I remember I kept I kept one of the
shell casings from that or two.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Really.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah, they're little red shell casings.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
And I was recently doing a big clean out, well
you know, the COVID clean out when you have nothing
else to do, and I found them, like and I
believe I had Jake and Zoe sign them.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
So they're somewhere, get in a tumbleware somewhere. That's a
good option, charity auction item. Later need to do something.
They don't give them to your.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Bring this back. What what do you mean shellcasings? You
were shooting real guns.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
They're a they're like blanks. They're blanks.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
And so there was no, we're not shooting a reel,
but they're blanks. And so they have these like and
I think that they had shellcases scattered around for like props.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Okay, okay, I'm like, wait, the.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Moors are just sweat for a second, they're like, what yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Gun issue? No, because I use for a lot of
things I have to use guns for. But now you know,
nowadays they don't let you use real guns at all. Yeah,
and if they do, they take out the firing pin.
You can't even shoot a blank if you if you wanted.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
To, what do you need to use guns for right now?
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Just Fargo the last show I did with a gun.
That one. I was playing a police officer and so
I had shootouts on the show, but we were using
these toy guns with like a light at the end,
and then they would swap them out sometimes for close
ups with a real gun, but they would they would
open it up and show you there's no firing pin,
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there's no bullet inside. It's been decommissioned, essentially. But back
in the day you would use real guns. They would
have firing pins obviously, so you can shoot blanks. But
the problem with those is that sometimes a real bullet
will find its way into one of these guns. All yeh,
it's obviously we all tragically.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
And also blanks are scary because that's how Brandon Lee
passed away. He had a blank. It was like right
next to his head.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Yeah, I think that's why.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Honestly, that was The Crow is one of my absolute
favorite favorite favorite movies.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
And then I learned of.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
That accident that happened on set, and I just think
it just put like a fear and a chill into
my body that I just like never shook, and I
never really had to handle one in my personal life
or family life or anything. And then I did a
movie and they were like, okay, so to get ready
for this scene we're sending on you guys do like
the gun range today and it's loud in there and
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it's cl.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
You never have to use a gun even when you
da Kanye.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
This is a rumor that Lamar and is really see
don't say people think that there's truth that could happen.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
It's not true. You didn't date Kanye.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
There's I mean, it's the craziest room.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Or Lamar starts starts to start really fun rumors about
my life because my life is so so boring and
I and I love that my life is boring. I
love that there's nothing exciting that happens in it.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
It is a very conscious choice.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
And so Lamar likes to plant seeds of things that
he thinks that will just like take off and make
my life seem like it's more interesting.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
I like how he said the Kanye like the way
they do in the in the documentary and Kanye, you
know the guy who for the and Kanye.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
I once made a joke, but I when I first
started a new girl and I met with somebody and
I was like, oh, so so sorry, But I bumped
into Lenny Kravitz and he like asked me on a
date and then.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
So we're gonna do that later.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Like in my mind, that was such an obvious, ridiculous joke,
you know what I mean, Like like I saw Santa
Claus and he was interested, Like that's what I thought.
And then it kind of like got back to me
through my like agent at the time to be like, WHOA, so,
like you were going on a date with Lenny Kravitz.
I was like what I was like, that to me
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is so preposterous and insane.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
That would have never started postrous to me.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
That things that I think are crazy to me in
my life.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Everybody's like, well, that can totally happen. I don't understand
what this feels insane Hannah.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Rumors that I I am dating Zoe Kravitz.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
This is the this is You've been trying to make
that happen just by like trying to manifest by saying
insane things about you and Zoe Krabt.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Yeah, no one will ever believe that though not happening.
Thank you. I feel like you know her, I feel
like you should put a good word in thank you.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Okay, absence.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
I want to ask about the absent thing because it's
one of the funniest things too in this episode. Have
you ever tried it? Have you ever done it? They
have been around it.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
I went to Sweden before and I got a bottle
of absence, and I thought that it was I'm one
of five kids. We grew up in a military family.
We weren't like goodie two shoes at all. In fact,
my older siblings were They're all smart, got straight, a's
all great, but they were like definitely not. They weren't
bad kids, but like I didn't cause any trouble. And
I was like, there's a lot of stuff I didn't
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know about. I didn't know a lot of sexual stuff.
I didn't know a lot of drugs. I didn't know
any But I just my brain didn't like, go there,
where are you in the birth order of the time,
second to the last got it? And I just I
just wasn't into any of that stuff. And like even socially,
like I would joke or fight back with people the
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way that I would with like my siblings. So like
when I first got on television. I was twenty six
when there was no Twitter, by the way, and there
was like forums, and so I would talk back the
way I do with my siblings and had to learn
very quickly like oh, like that doesn't fly when you're
like a public position at all. But that's just like
my brain was, like I kind of operated like as
(21:31):
like the fourth child and like even into an adult
in a way that like I didn't care to learn
the things I didn't know. I didn't like I would
just kind of, you know, an absence. I know this
is like a circuitous way to get back to absence,
but I in my head, i'd probably seen some movie
or something where it was like the Devil's Juice, you know,
and you're gonna go crazy, and so I remember being like,
(21:54):
they sell absent here, and he was like yeah, I'm
like and I like thought it was so cool. I'm
gonna get two bottles. I put in my suitcase and
brought it back. Come to find out you can get
in America, Like sure, but I remember drinking and being like, okay,
here we go and see the moon. No, I think
so the New Girl episode was nothing like my actual
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experience with absent have you guys had absence before.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Lamar, not not in the way that it's supposed to
be prepared. I'm similar to you. I didn't have my
first drink until I was twenty two, so I didn't know.
I didn't know anything really, and I would see movies
where people would drink absent and then hallucinate, and I said,
I want to try that. And then I tried absent
and I didn't hallucinate, right. I was like, this, don't
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even taste that great? What am I doing? And then
someone was like, oh, you gotta you gotta have like
sugar and you gotta heat it up and you got
to do it. I was like, what the fuck?
Speaker 5 (22:51):
No, I just like you turn into a like I
got some Yeah, you get a cauldron.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
That's essentially what we're telling me. And I was not.
So I never I've never after that. I never tried it.
But you're right, you see it everywhere and you just
kind of go, well, that was a joke. That was
a big miss.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
I remember being in I was the same thing.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Also, didn't drink till like in my early twenties and
was trying to always make good choices. And I met
this guy and I think you realize this is not
you know, like we're getting along, but nothing is going
to happen. We're not like leaving this bar together. And
so he was like, I think he had watched these
movies about absent.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Let's do a shot of absence.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
And I was like hi, And I think in his mind,
this terrible dude. He was like he thought it would
be like a roofie, you know, like she'd be I'd
hallucinate and now he could like change the nature of
who I am. And then this night ago in a
different direction, and I like, you know, did the shot
of Absinth and no, still a hard no for me, bud,
(23:55):
but you know, thanks for the shot and bye. He
thought absence made them And I remember like walking out
of the bar and I was like, so, I'm going
to catch the bus home, and he was just sort
of like do you.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Want to go back to like another shot? And I
was just like I think I was.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
Like, say, he's like I've got some sugar, some hot water.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
It was the funniest moment where I was just like, oh,
she would just try to like roofy me and it's
just like not working, and I'm like, no, I feel
like sorry for you.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
I'm like, you're a back room apart.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
He was like, I'm going to try this, and I
was just like, you're a terrible human being. So it
was kind of funny to watch this guy try to
be evil.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Let's jump back into this one now, Nick is Nick
is forced to be here, right, he's he's and.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
It's free, that's the thing. He comes as a free
trip and she's manipulating him.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Yeah, but she's like but in the beginning, she's like
asking him to be there.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Yeah, and so, but we do.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
See him in his truest state. He's having a lot
of fun with with Angie, but deep down, at its core,
he is becoming someone who he doesn't really want to be,
which I think is an interesting trait for someone like
Nick because he's very adamant about being himself on the show,
like we talked about being unapologetic. He's unapologetically a bum
(25:24):
and he's a lazy person. But with Angie he feels like, oh,
I have to pretend to be cool. I have to
pretend to be down with this idea of having like
a swingers party, for example, because that's ultimately what ends
up happening. Angie assumes that this is a swinger situation, which,
by the way.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Like kind of a fair assumption.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
If you're in an open relationship, you're invited to a
cabin with a couple other people, you're doing you know,
and then he's like, I'm going upstairs with this one.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
Now.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
I love how you think that's a normal assumption.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
It's air assumption.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
But if we're in an.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Relationship and then the other you're guy, okay, we're not
to each other, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Look, Hannah, Hannah, is that what you can be going
camping all the time.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
You must have been sheltered like the morning.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
I too.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
I'm like, isn't that what happens? I guess that's what
would happened.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
You've never gone camping.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
That's actually will not camp. I'm just like, I guess
weird out there. You're alone in the woods. There's bears,
I don't know, no, thank you, and swingers.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
I used to do it as a kid. It's not
a cute thing to do.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
No, doesn't seem like that.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
You can't sell it to me. It's not interesting to
me whatsoever. Oh for like a walk in the woods,
but I'm not gonna like sleep there.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
Well, thank you have you just walked in the woods.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Come on, now, another thing going on in this episode,
which I let's swish to the bet story a little
bit and then we'll come back to the cabin Schmidt.
Schmid is up to his old ways again. Schmid is
uh so, he sees Winston having a conversation with some
with some people who happened to be black folks, and
(27:02):
he's like, oh man, your your your face lit up.
You were you seemed to be electric and you you
seem to be your ticks pixel. Oh my god. You know,
so let's talk about that a little bit. I know,
we we we dove into it a little bit at
the beginning of the show. But let's talk about this
in particular. How fucked up was this? How fucked up
(27:25):
was this moment?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Here's my question for you, lamoarn because knowing you well,
when after you guys come back from the bar and
you're in Winston's room and Max has to walk over
to you and put that rasta hat on your head, yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
I could. I felt like that's when you were no
longer in character.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
I felt like I could see in your face you
were like, we're we're at the line and now we're
going over the line.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Yeah, there were, they were habitual line steppers on this show,
and that was one of them. I remember, and I
feel for and I feel for you. And here's why,
because we're going to go to a commercial break, and
when we come back, we're going to see if you
found the damn bear. Olivia. There's something we do on
this on this show where Hannah seems to have this
(28:13):
there's this theory flowing.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
I don't be clear. So Olivia understands this is not okay. No,
this is not anything okay. So there is a huge
fan theory that there is a bear reference picture mentioned
in every single episode of New Girl, right, And from
what I have seen, that is true. The more things
(28:34):
you've seen a bear in every episode or it said bear,
there's some reference of bear the morning.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
Have you seen a few witnesses as well.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
He has decided not to get himself involved.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
No, I mean it's it's in a few episodes, okay.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
And so I've taken on as my mission with the fans.
I watch the show and they send me in proof
that this happens. So, you know, go to your commercial break,
come back, and I will tell you all about two
on two cabin and the bear situation.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Okay bye bye, yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Ok to break damn it and we are back from
break Hannah. Yeah, you go go ahead and disappoint the
fans one more time.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
Ah, where's the bear?
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Let them down?
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Where's the bear?
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Oh? Where's this damn bear? Where's the bear?
Speaker 1 (29:25):
And the opening act of the episode, when Jess is
selling it to Nick of why he should go to
the cabin, she says, you can sleep on a bear
rug but bow bow, thank you so much. So, yes,
there's a definite bear, spoken by Zoe Dachanel herself right
(29:45):
at the top of the episode.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
Boy bye, I know it hurts you when I find it.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
That's the best thing because he just then usually goes
on a tie rate about how ridiculous, like when I
watch the episode, I'm always watching for the bear, and
he's just like, you're have lost her.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
I think that he loves to hate it.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
I know that's what I'm saying. That's exactly true.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
So he gets so sad because then he's like, well,
I have nothing to talk about now that you found it.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
I do. You don't got to dig too deep. I
do love to hate it. Here in his life, because
let me tell you how it started. It started as
there is a there is a bear image. It started
as a bear image. Let me tell you how desperate
she got. Now it's a reference of a bear. She
even got so desperate that Brett Bear one of our
(30:27):
creators of the show. She's in producers of the show
and writer.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
She that's bear.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
It's not even spelled the way bear is. Like a
man could walk out of a room. Nick can walk
out of a room with a shirt off, and she's
going to go, oh, bear chested, look at that.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
This is you do that? Okay?
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Sometimes sometimes Look, there's one hundred and fifty episodes. They
make some mistakes, okay, like they can't hit it every
single time. But I still say it's like an eighty
percent thing that there is some method to the madness
of that in one hundred and fifte episodes.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
The question is this, though, are do you think they
are easter eggs or do you think it's an accidental
like from God, He's like putting this in.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
But how can it be accidental?
Speaker 1 (31:05):
I think that it's intentional because if a hundred of
them have a weird bear reference every single time, it's so.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Straight it would have to be purposeful. But if it was,
it wouldn't be bear as in a last name, and
it wouldn't be e hr, and it wouldn't be bare chested.
It would be b e r every single time if
it was deliberate.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
But these are comedians. Sometimes it's bare feet, you know.
Sometimes they have to be creative. Listen, Okay, we're not
dividing into camps here. Okay, this is like lamar.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
Sorry, Hannah, I've got to get checked out. You need how.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
I mean, these are facts. These are facts for different reasons.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
I just need something to look for. It helps me
keep my attention.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Now, let's let's dive back in a little bit. So
what's happening back at the law right now? At the
law right now, everyone's stressed out due to the fact
that there was a misconcen about this this swinger thing,
right yeah, and what's happening. So Nick, feeling a little
bit uncomfortable, chugs, he chugs the the cheps serum, the
(32:13):
truth serum. He tells all the truths and then he
comes out there and he's like, listen, I got a
problem with this. I don't like this at all. I
don't want to be I like you, I don't want
to be in this open situation. Have you ever been
in a situation like this where you thought everything was
all good in a relationship and finally the guy came
out and said, you know what, I don't Actually, I
(32:34):
don't think it's cool that you that you wear glasses,
be blind. I don't I don't like the fact that
you I don't like I don't like that.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
I think it's a thing of like, have you ever
been on a situation we're in two different pages, right,
I think that's the thing, and you're trying to be
cool with their page, but you're really not.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Yeah, I could tell you it happens in every relationship.
That's why I'm single.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
By the way, Olivia, you know somebody for lamarn This
is a low key day show for Lamore and he
needs someone, you know, so.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
Nice, smart, handsome. It's kind of crazy. When was your
last relationship and what are your issues?
Speaker 3 (33:09):
I means my issue are the issue. I'm busy. I'm busy.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
I have a child that comes to Numero, you know,
in my life, so a lot of times I don't
have the bandwidth to give out so much attention, and
I co parent. So my daughter is with her mom
one week, she's with me one week, So I need
to make up for that time when I have her.
And so a lot of times I'll be, you know,
I'll be dating someone and they don't necessarily they say
(33:35):
they're okay with it, but their actions are telling me
they are not okay with it, And so I moon
walk my black ass on up out of there, and uh,
you know.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
But it is not What are you looking for? I'm
going through my role with ax in my brain.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
What am I looking for? Busy? Someone who is busy,
someone who is it's got their own situation happening. And
if I and we can compliment each other and go
and have fun and then understand that we are both
doing something else and then come back. You know, I'm
looking for someone who's funny. You gotta be funny. You
(34:14):
don't have to be a comedian, but you gotta be.
You gotta be able to take a joke because I
don't know how to stop telling them. Uh so, yeah,
that's that's pretty much it. She gotta be. You gotta
be thick. I'm kidding. She got like weird stuff. No,
but yeah, that's pretty much it. I'm easy, I'm easy.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
I think it's the understanding that you have a daughter
and that she comes first, and someone who actually understands that,
and it's school with that. That's what we're looking for
from the hunt.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Keep your eyes because eventually it turns into a group thing.
Eventually will turn into a group thing, so she will
get that attention. But I need to be comfortable first, yeah, before.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Right, Okay, this is what this podcast is low key
to recap slash.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
Change Lamarne's dating status situation. He's openly seeking.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Okay, okay, let's jump back in.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
This is like when this is my this is my
third episode and then I'm out after this.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
This was mye Yeah because you leave him, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
Because I think it's clear that he's in love with
He's always.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Character yeah, which is which I found interesting. When she
got sick and she went upstairs, He's like, I gotta
go up there and handle yeah, And I was like,
do you bruh'.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Well that's I mean, that's what your character is. What
Angie said. She's like, you're going up there with her?
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
It was a I mean, obviously for my character bummer,
But as a fan of the show, I was like,
go upstairs the show from the beginning. I remember all
of your advertisements very beginning, and it was like I
was like, Oh, what's you know this is? This is
back when it was like there's four five networks right
(36:07):
that people really watched, and so when a show came on,
you're like, everyone knew about that show. It's a very
exciting time. I know it had to be As an actor,
I knew it had to be for you guys, because
you're like, because you get these other like lottery tickets,
You're like, oh my god. And then I remember the
so I watched it from the genesis. So when I'm
playing the character who's dating Nick, I'm going like, Nick,
(36:33):
that's right, she's right there. Like I was definitely like
very I was. I was really happy to be part
of as a as a fan and also as an actor.
I was happy to be part of an arc that
was the window that led to another another place in
their relationship. It helps you know the show progressed from
(36:53):
that moment. You know had to. It had to make
a left turn at some point, and that was that
that moment where you're like, oh, he's choosing he's with
somebody and he's choosing her over over the presentation. You're like,
and he's clocking that, she's clocking it. And it was
a nice it's a nice it. It felt good for
me to send him off the onto his next journey.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
I will say too.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
When I rewatched it, you know, you get to see
angiebe totally wild and herself. But that moment when they're
having that heart to heart on the bed together Nick
and Angie and you go like, wow, this is like
a really emotionally honest conversation.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
This is really sweet.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
And then he starts screaming bird and hits the deck
and she, with like zero judgment, just stands up and
looks around and.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
Takes the picture of the bird off the wall.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
It was one of the most sweet, loving things, you know,
like a best friend who has no judgment to be.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
Like, oh, you're still in it. I got you, okay,
don't worry. The big bad birds out of here.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
I thought that was like such a It was one
of those moments where I found like I forgot but
this was like the last episode and then you're just
like peace by I'm out of here that you go like.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
Oh, they are a good man because he's a.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Real weird yeah yeah, and has that and there was
no judgment, full safe space, We'll get the big scary
bird out.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
And I thought that was really sweet and.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
You're like, oh, but there could be something, yeah, just
a little bit more, and then gone, well.
Speaker 5 (38:22):
You know, I think that and I what I love that.
That's what the great thing about the show is, Like,
I think the show always showed the complexities of life
and how you know a lot of times you could
truly be happy with a lot of different people, and
you could truly be miserable with a lot of different people,
and you just have to you know, the biggest thing
in life that I have learned is you've got to
make a decision, and you've got to make a decision.
(38:44):
And what you hope is that by the time you're
in a place where you realize that you just make
a decision and move forward, that you're really in a
healthy place, that you've learned a lot of your lessons
so that you're able to pick the best decision for yourself.
But in that moment, it's like the doors left, right,
you go. And I think that was the beautiful thing
(39:04):
about the show is that there's always there's always those
layers to life and you're trying to juggle them all
at the same time, and all of the feelings and
there's like regret and love and passion and sadness and
it's all of.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
That at once.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
Yeah, this was it a great, great job of creating
that show.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
That's ben the best piece of advice like my dad
ever gave. But I remember asking him and I was like,
should I do this?
Speaker 4 (39:28):
Should I do that?
Speaker 1 (39:29):
I go to my dad for a lot of things,
and he was like, the only wrong decision is no decision.
Make a decision that's the right decision, but then fully
commit to it. Yeah, And that has always stuck with me.
When you're kind of sitting in that limbo, this is
why it feels wrong. Yeah, it's because you need to
(39:52):
sit there and you can't keep one foot in that
other lane, which is what you're what you're sharing too.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Every time I would go to my dad, he the
number you have reached and then they'll be like, oh shit,
So all that note, feel sorry for me. On that note,
I want to play a little game with you, Hannah.
Let's mess around a little bit. Can we do that
with Olivia. Yeah, okay, we're going to commercial break and
(40:18):
then we come back. We're going to do that. Boom,
we're back from commercial break, Olivia. A few questions for you,
all right, If you were trapped in a cabin in
the woods with three other people with no heat and electricity,
which three people that you know would give you the
(40:39):
best chance to survive? You don't have the name names
if you don't want to, but please share.
Speaker 5 (40:46):
I'm okay, okay, I'm in a cabin, no chance of.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
No heat, heat, no electricity, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (40:54):
No electricity. Okay. It would be first of all, my
younger brother Johnny, who just got his PhD in physics.
This guy is brilliant. We're going to figure out a
way to be warm. He's going to figure out whatever
it is. He's the guy. It'll be my boyfriend John
(41:17):
who makes me laugh so much, and I think that
I'll laugh so much that it'll keep me warm. I'll
just be like constantly.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Crunching over So John and Johnny, John and Johnny.
Speaker 5 (41:31):
And I would say my mom, because my mom grew
up in Vietnam and she really I think that, you know,
she grew up in a world where she's really resourceful.
She can figure anything out. Everything she can figure out.
So those would be the three.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
Okay, yeah, me. My mom would be one of those people.
My mom, And then I would just find two navy
seals that I know.
Speaker 4 (42:02):
You're like. I would get an electrician. I get someone
with a lot of firewood and a match.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Yeah, and my mom just to hang out while we
watch just people work and get this ship together.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
Let's say I got another one here for you.
Speaker 5 (42:20):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
You had a lot of scenes with Jake Johnson, who
was known for being quite a serious and dramatic actor.
How we're filming those scenes with him? And uh, you
know what did you do to stay in those scenes?
Because he does a lot of bits he improvises. I
am convinced he cannot read, So you know what did
you do to stay alive in those scenes?
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Jake and I got along so incredibly well.
Speaker 5 (42:42):
We we just wanted to I'm sure people say this
all the time with him, but it was like instant
friends and and it was just really easy to I mean,
I'm very bad at at breaking. If you make me laugh,
I will laugh so hard and then it's impossible to
(43:02):
make me stop. You know, like when you start, you
break laughing and then makes the crew laugh, and then
try to go again, and then you break laughing and
the cruise laughing because it's funny, and then eventually crew
gets mad at you because it's right, it's been going
on for five takes. That's when I think it's the
funniest because I start thinking, oh my god, they're so
mad at me and I won't stop, and then I
(43:23):
go into like five more takes. So so that was
like my life with Jake was just me constantly being like,
everyone's going to be so mad at me. This is
so so hard just to stay foked.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
There's a reaction shot of you when he's sitting at
the dinner table completely.
Speaker 4 (43:40):
High, losing his mind, and he's like, if.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
You're a top hat, you'd be a big top pat
with but like the monopoly, He's going on and on
and on.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
There's a teacher had a weird tuf think about.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
It that thing, and they cut to you, and I
think the way they use it in the edit is
just like Angie loves it, loves it like it loves
a fucked up nick. This is great, but I feel
like I know you a little bit enough.
Speaker 4 (44:01):
Where i'd be. I was like, I think Olivia is
just like laughing and loving.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
I love Jake going fully committed to being as drunk
and weird as humanly possible. It just was like the
sweetest look on your face of like this man is
just going and I just get to sit here and watch,
which is really.
Speaker 5 (44:19):
I remember that moment and I remember just watching and
I was like I remember thinking, like a lot of
that stuff wasn't in all pacts. It wasn't an ault line.
I was just like somebody wound up this guy and
we're like go and he just like it's so funny.
He's so funny. He really thinks of you know, in
his delivery and his voice. It's so funny because what
(44:43):
he's saying is always very clever and heightened intelligence and
like in the best comedic way, but the way it
comes out is so gravelly and bumbly and like it's
just that it's so it's like that beautiful mix of
just like it just catches you off guard because you're like,
it's he's just the best.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
He is the best there was.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
I feel like they always released those like top five
list of actors who play like drunk.
Speaker 4 (45:05):
The best and Jake is always on them. He's always
always on them, and it's very true.
Speaker 5 (45:09):
It's hard to play it is.
Speaker 4 (45:11):
Oh yeah, he's always on them. He did somehow, that's
his wheelhouse.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Yeah, good him.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
Yeah, we got one more question for you. Your character
Angie was a motorcycle riding, gun shooting bad ass. Are
those characters more fun to play than others? Also? What
type of prep? I know you have a military background,
but what type of prep do you go into when playing.
Speaker 4 (45:31):
A lot of action stuff? Actually in your current of action?
Speaker 5 (45:34):
I you know, I did grow up in a military
family and also being Asian, it was non negotiable we
have to do martial arts growing up. So since like
three years old, I was in martial arts. So I
got a black belt in taekwondo and like that's what
we had to do. It Like what Yeah, so that
was really fun to do. But but there's something like
a the answer is to play a character, it's not
(45:57):
as much fun as like it was a really fun
time with a new Girl. But I I like, like
my character on the Newsroom probably the best. It's to
play wild crazy like it's uh, it's fun, but sometimes
it can be kind of like like like that's kind
of what they always default to when you're when you're working,
like so when you you don't really get as many levels,
(46:19):
and so they're not gonna unless you're doing a film
where this person's like, you know, you get to see
her whole like arc and stuff and and and her
down moments and and things like that. But but it's
usually the person who comes in and is just like
you know, wild and like what you see with Angie.
You know, we have moments, thankfully, you know there was
some beautiful like quieter moments. But uh, but yeah, I
(46:41):
I I prefer I prefer the other whatever the other is.
M Yeah, do you guys like playing that kind of
like party people, wild extremes.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
I don't do it so much action stuff. I love.
I love playing I love that. I love doing that
because it's more a lot of times you could have
full days, even weeks of zero dialogue. You're just kind
of doing a bunch of cool shit, which I which
I enjoy. It kind of gives me a break a
little bit. I remember the last action net thing I
(47:15):
did Fargo. There's a big shootout scene and a lot
of that took us six days to shoot this one scene,
and for about two or three of those days, I
didn't say anything, just me and Juneo Temple like roaming
around doing this cool stuff. These gunshots are going off,
and I thought, man, this is great because then you
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have your moment your day. You're a few days of
just a two person scene. So it's a mixture of
both and they figure out a way to blend it together.
And anything else that I've done action related, it's very
similar to that. So I actually enjoy doing those a
lot because you get to do both in those moments.
So yeah, but being silly, it's still my favorite thing
(47:56):
to do.
Speaker 4 (47:57):
Yeah, I know me too. I have to choose it
every time.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
I'll be like, just put me across the table from
somebody else, so let us talk and get weird. I
just did a show with Gina Rodriguez not dead yet
in Laura ash And when they would put the three
of us women in a room and just let us
be really really weird and improv and like, I don't know,
sing weird stuff at each other and you're laughing all day.
(48:22):
I will take that over having to run anywhere. I
don't like any of those days, but like so it's
like a physical day. I'm like, oh God, let me
just sit with funny women and laugh.
Speaker 4 (48:36):
That's uh, those of my dream days.
Speaker 3 (48:39):
We truly do appreciate it, Hannah. Anything you wanna.
Speaker 4 (48:43):
Add, No, I just really appreciate you coming on. It's
it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (48:46):
Like you're saying, people they fall in love with the
characters on this show and everybody that's in that New
Girl universe, and you are definitely one of them. And
so you being on here for us and for all
the people that listen and love the show and are
still newly discovering it.
Speaker 4 (49:01):
It's awesome. So thank you for making the time. We
appreciate you, guys.
Speaker 5 (49:04):
I was so excited to hear you guys are doing
a podcast about the show. It's iconic, and I'm so
happy that all the fans are getting to hear it
from your perspective. It's so cool.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
Awesome, Love you guys.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
Awesome.
Speaker 5 (49:16):
I'm going to find you a girl, love you much,
love much love to find.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
You a girl.
Speaker 5 (49:23):
I'm just gonna find you a bear. I'm straight a bear,
find you a girl later.
Speaker 3 (49:30):
I appreciate it, all.
Speaker 4 (49:31):
Right, everybody, thank you so much for listening.
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Mm hm. And I got a couple of these hats already,
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Today, we have a very special guest with us in
the New Girl universe. You know her as Nick's motorcycle riding,
gunslinging girlfriend Angie. She did three episodes with us in
season two and she's been in countless films and show since.
Please welcome our beloved Olivia mon Hi to this show.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Hi, guys, hell, this is so fun.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
What's up? I mean, that's not.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Everybody.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Hi.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Thanks for hanging out with us.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Oh my gosh, thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Would you say that because a New Girl, your life
is forever better?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
You know what, I'll be better?
Speaker 5 (00:59):
I mean yes, people still come up to me about
the Newsroom and New Girl. Those are the two, and
you always tell the demographic. It's funny because now there's
a whole new life to New Girl, and so a
lot of like younger girls will be coming up talk
to me about New Girl, which is a really sweet
They love it so much. You know. I'll tell you
A big thing that was really impactful for me on
(01:22):
New Girl was I was filming Aaron's Organs the Newsroom
at the time on HBO, an hour long drama, and
then I go do the New Girl, which is comedy,
and it took longer to tape one episode a New
Girl than it did take to take an entire newsroom episode.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I was like, I was blowing away, and then I realized.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
That that the show really happened mostly in the edit,
Like that your show succeeded because we have all these
sounded actors, but this whatever they did in the editing room,
it was they really put the show together. I was
really impressed by like this specific thing. When you're on
(02:06):
set of New Girl, you have your script, your lines,
and then when they get that down after one or
two takes, they come in with pages of alternate lines
and they're just like, okay, now say say this line,
and then if the line was I don't know, good morning,
they'd cut. And then they go okay, now say good afternoon. Okay,
(02:27):
now say how you doing? Now say what's up? Now.
They just give you every version so that way they
can give you every opportunity to succeed in the edit,
and I thought, well, that's why it takes so long.
But also it was great because everybody when they had
like these their improv lines, so they had thought of anything.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Everything could then be used in the edit if it worked.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
And so I think that's that's a big reason why
it was so successful in my opinion, it's funny.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I mean, we'll get to it as we go through
this episode today we are recapping episode to twelve Cabin.
But I when I was rewatching it, that moment where
they showed David Walton and Zoe and their characters being
really really like drunken, screwed up on absinthe and she
goes like word games, word games, word games.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
And they just cut to him laughing.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I was like, I bet you that took half a
day to shoot of them just having her say it
different ways with it being weird in her mouth, or
like when Jake has the grape. Yeah, just trying to
eat that grape. And I'm like, that must have taken forever.
Just get weirder, get weirder, go bigger, go smaller, And
then that's what they would have, all those choices, and
(03:37):
then they kind of you know, like there's an art
to comedy, Yeah, and what you set in and what
you give space to and what is a quick you know,
cut into and Yeah, it took forever, especially in those
early days of New Girl when they were trying to
really figure out like the rhythm, the tone of this
whole thing. So and this episode I think is perfect
(03:57):
for that because you guys were just literally locked in
this cabin, so they had to have all those choices
for the funny.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Yeah, that was a story of my life in the beginning.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
In the beginning, most of my notes were weirder early. Yeah,
what the fun does that mean?
Speaker 5 (04:15):
Man?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
You know that was most those were my notes, you
know what I mean. And so I would have to
find different ways to get silly. And then you're right,
you would get these alt packs with a million jokes
and but I but I will say, like you said,
that was our saving grace on the show, because you know,
you had the best opportunities to be funny. And obviously
(04:38):
it resonated with fans because here we go and cool
people like you on the show.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Oh yeah, I will also say too, as an actor,
I realized because in the moment, I remember when I
was like new, like brand new on that show, and
you're doing it over and over again. They're asking different ways.
Like I was always in my head being like I
guess I'm not getting it. I guess I'm not getting
it right because they just keep asking me for it differently,
And what you realize then when you watch the show
(05:05):
and now when we rewatch the show, is that no,
they're like, it's it's such a level of protection and
safety as an actor because.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
They always made you look good.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
They always made sure they got the best of it
and then matched it with the best of someone else
to make it really like be the best it could be.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
And that was the reason for it. But you know,
you can get in your head a little bit.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Okay, so we should dive into this episode, but before Lamonne,
you want to give us a little quick recap and breakdown.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Okay. So in this episode, Just and Sam played by
David Walton, doctor Sam himself. They've planned it perfect weekend getaway. Jess, however,
is a bit hesitant about spending the weekend along with Sam,
so she invites Nick and Angie played by the wonderful
Olivia Mine. Now, meanwhile, back at the loft, this is
when the episode gets a little bit interesting. Schmidt is
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afraid that Winston, who lives with three white folks. He's
afraid that he ain't you know, is experiences are but
not enough. Okay, he's not being his true self, so
he decides to do a Winston Day to turn on
his black switch. I'm not sure if you can get
away of this episode today. Shit, I'm not sure I
(06:14):
would do this episode today. I might. It was still
pretty funny in the moment.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
In the moment back in the day, did you bump
up against it?
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Were you?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Like?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I don't know about this.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
I bumped up against a lot of stuff on this show.
And you know, for the sake of comedy. The older
had gotten, the more, you know, the more I fell
in love with comedy, and the more I fell in
love with people making fun of people, the more I
can appreciate it. However, in moments like this, this particular episode,
when you don't got I don't think we had black
writers in the room at that point, so we may
(06:48):
have had one, and so I was like, well, who
the fuck is writing the storyline? You know, But it's
also to play into the fact that Schmidt is idiot
at times, and he means well, but he's one of
those folks that goes about doing things in the dumbest
of ways, and to highlight that I appreciated it more
(07:12):
if we weren't highlighting the fact that Schmidt was an idiot.
If it were just you know, or that Winston, it
would be it would be because obviously Winston is doing
this to fuck with him. But if he weren't, if
I would have read that script at the table read
and Winston was not fucking with him, if he genuinely
wanted to go and search from crack, I would have
(07:35):
walked out of that rope. I would have walked out
of that room with a lot of money in my pocket.
I would have sued, Yeah, well, I.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Think what was interesting too, is like what I appreciated
about it because I was.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
I watched it and I was just like, oh god.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
But I was like, because certain times you watch things
back you're like, I don't know about this anymore. But
the fact that Winston's character is like a hard no.
In the beginning, yeah, I fuxed him a little bit,
but then he just stays.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
A hard no.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Even at the end, right when Schmid's like, you know,
chocolate vanilla swirl, He's like.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
No and walks out.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
There's not a moment of like, I get it, you know,
I appreciate you, Like that really doesn't happen. It's just
like this is inappropriate. You're over compensating for your white guild.
I have no space for it. Figure that out by
and it stays in that lane. I think it is
the only saving grace of the storyline for me.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
I remember when that came out, I got a lot
of pushback from from from black folks about it. Sure,
you know, you know that there's a lot there's a
lot of names that you can get called when you're
a part of an episode like this, especially for people
who may have heard about it, didn't see it, didn't
actually watch it, didn't see what the point of it was.
(08:43):
Because Schmidt, as you know, Schmid has a lot of
Indian jokes. His character has a lot of jokes. This
man has a lot. He's just he's just not He
ain't he ain't right up here all the time, and
he's not necessarily in tune. And I think that I
think that device on him works, on that character works
(09:07):
for sure. It's almost almost Archie Bunk, not Archie bunker
ish from all in the family. But it's kind of
one of those things where you're watching the show and
you go, I see what that character is and try
not to take offense necessarily.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Oh right, we dive in y'all, let's die right into
this episode.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
I know we could sit here forever.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yes, we can.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Before we get right into the meat of this episode, though,
do you remember how you were asked or when you
were asked to be part of this New Girl universe,
the call that came in, how it was pitched to you, because, yeah,
you were in the newsroom, which was pretty hard hitting.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
Yeah, I was on the newsroom and I got a
call that I got this offer to do three episodes
on New Girl, and it was to play a stripper.
And I love the New Girl, So I was really
excited and really flattered by the offer, and I just
said I needed to talk to Liz Meriwether before accepting
because I just had one request. I said, I would
(10:01):
love to play this role. I would love to be
on the show. I just don't want to play a
stripper with a heart of gold. I don't want her
going through med school. I don't want her like I'm
stripping to pay for my kids and my family, and like,
I just want to really, you want to be a lawyer, and.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I'm just the only way to do it.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
I said, I want her to be a stripper who
wants to be a stripper because she makes a ton
of money doing it, and she's good at it and
she has.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
No problem doing it.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
I really just I never really I thought there's a
lot of women who do it because they they're like,
this is a good money maker and why not. And
so Liz was like, okay, yeah, she was like yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
So that wasn't the character like beforehand, like like that
wasn't the backstory of this character. They kind of then
wove that into the and genus of it all.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
You know, I don't know if it was the character.
I think I came up really quick by saying like,
before you even think to even add that in, like
this is this is a deal breaker for me, I
don't because I've already seen that a million times. I've
already seen her, you know that, you know, I just
didn't want I could I could imagine what it was like.
(11:11):
There was like, oh, I'm the stripper, and then Jake's
character meets me and then we fall for each other,
and he's like, she's this great girl who's just wants
to become a dentist and she is what she's doing
to make it through. And I'd be like, I don't
want to be a stripper. I don't you know, this
is a hard life and I really want to get
out of it. And I just I was like, I
just felt like I've already seen that, and that's already
(11:33):
been represented a million times, So let's show a stripper
in a different way and just show a woman who
dances in gentlemen's clubs in a different way. I just
look like the whole thing was going to be more
interesting to me. And Liz was like, did not blanke
and eye. She's like one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I feel like she's so good at writing those characters too,
that are like smart and unapologetic, unapologetic yeah for whoever,
they are right, And that's what feels refreshing in all
the weird comedy.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
Because you know what the truth is, tell me somebody
in life who really is apologetic. Most people are just
fully themselves in real life. And I think that when
a lot of times women are written, we are written
to be apologetic. Now, it doesn't mean that in real
life we're not always saying like, oh sorry for this,
sorry for that.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
But the truth is, like most people just fully live and.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
Who they are, Like, even if they are an apologic person,
they are unapologetically apologetic to you know what I mean,
Like they are.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
They're just fully living their life and their truth.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
And I'm sure there are a lot of women who
want to strip to get through college or pay for
their bills or whatever and don't really want to do it,
But there are a lot of women who also want
to do it because of all the reasons I said before.
So she did a great job of writing that.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Yeah, that's awesome. It's good money. If you feel good
doing money, that's great.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
I was going to ask, because I know it's called cabin.
We start this episode with them saying they want to
go to this cabin. Were you on because I wasn't
there obviously. Was this a real cabin or were you
guys on the stage?
Speaker 2 (13:07):
No real cabin out there.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
I thought they built it on a stage.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
No, I remember being out in a real cabin because
then we had to do this. We got to like
shoot shotguns and stuff, so we were out.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
We're literally out.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
There hotly shit.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Yeah, get out.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
I don't know why.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
I thought, like, oh, you had like like a location
day for the exterior, but they built the cabin.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Got too. This was at the Fox lot, Got too.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Yeah, exactly, girl. You were on stage fourteen the whole time.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Okay, so we're going to go to a quick commercial break,
and we are back, folks, We are back. We're here
with Olivia Munn recapping the episode Cabin. So, Hannah, go ahead,
what were you going to ask?
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Well, the way we see Olivia first in this episode
is you come roaring up on a motorcycle and then quick,
Jimmy are waiting into like a secret closet and get
these guns out. So my first thought when I rewatched
the episode was have you.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Ever ridden a motorcycle before?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
How comfortable with you or were you in that scene
or did you just like, was there a stunt double
and you just pulled the helmet off and the guns,
Because I personally, anytime I've had these a gun in
a show or a movie, it's the worst day ever
and I dread it and I can't wait for it
to be over.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
Well, I have a motorcycle's license, and yes, so I
got that years ago. However, for like insurance reasons, they
don't let you ride you on a motorcycle. So it
was a stunt double and I take off the helmet
at the end. But I felt comfortable because I know
how to ride a motorcycle and guns. I grew up
(14:46):
in a military family, so we learned about gun safety
early on. We would go to the gun range early on.
It was just really important to not be afraid of guns,
so that if you know, if we were around them
for whatever reason, we had a really healthy respect for
them and understood how powerful they were. So there was
(15:09):
a you know, there was no there wasn't a fear.
There was a big respect so that, you know, there
was no playing with guns in our family. There's no
It was like, this is what you do and this
is how powerful it is. So so that did not
break me out.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
When they were when Uh.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
One of the funniest moments I feel like when I
watched the recap is Zoe needing the backstory before she
can shoot something, and then you're giving her the advice,
and I feel like it's Nick that goes like, oh,
it's a this is the fantasy and a nightmare collife.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
The girl you trust the least with the guns.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
And yet I think that was that was an improv
like that was was it really not improv?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
But that was the all oh an all line that
it was the famous All Lives.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
Yeah, I remember I kept I kept one of the
shell casings from that or two.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Really.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah, they're little red shell casings.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
And I was recently doing a big clean out, well
you know, the COVID clean out when you have nothing
else to do, and I found them, like and I
believe I had Jake and Zoe sign them.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
So they're somewhere, get in a tumbleware somewhere. That's a
good option, charity auction item. Later need to do something.
They don't give them to your.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Bring this back. What what do you mean shellcasings? You
were shooting real guns.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
They're a they're like blanks. They're blanks.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
And so there was no, we're not shooting a reel,
but they're blanks. And so they have these like and
I think that they had shellcases scattered around for like props.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Okay, okay, I'm like, wait, the.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Moors are just sweat for a second, they're like, what yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Gun issue? No, because I use for a lot of
things I have to use guns for. But now you know,
nowadays they don't let you use real guns at all. Yeah,
and if they do, they take out the firing pin.
You can't even shoot a blank if you if you wanted.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
To, what do you need to use guns for right now?
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Just Fargo the last show I did with a gun.
That one. I was playing a police officer and so
I had shootouts on the show, but we were using
these toy guns with like a light at the end,
and then they would swap them out sometimes for close
ups with a real gun, but they would they would
open it up and show you there's no firing pin,
(17:20):
there's no bullet inside. It's been decommissioned, essentially. But back
in the day you would use real guns. They would
have firing pins obviously, so you can shoot blanks. But
the problem with those is that sometimes a real bullet
will find its way into one of these guns. All yeh,
it's obviously we all tragically.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
And also blanks are scary because that's how Brandon Lee
passed away. He had a blank. It was like right
next to his head.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Yeah, I think that's why.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Honestly, that was The Crow is one of my absolute
favorite favorite favorite movies.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
And then I learned of.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
That accident that happened on set, and I just think
it just put like a fear and a chill into
my body that I just like never shook, and I
never really had to handle one in my personal life
or family life or anything. And then I did a
movie and they were like, okay, so to get ready
for this scene we're sending on you guys do like
the gun range today and it's loud in there and
(18:19):
it's cl.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
You never have to use a gun even when you
da Kanye.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
This is a rumor that Lamar and is really see
don't say people think that there's truth that could happen.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
It's not true. You didn't date Kanye.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
There's I mean, it's the craziest room.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Or Lamar starts starts to start really fun rumors about
my life because my life is so so boring and
I and I love that my life is boring. I
love that there's nothing exciting that happens in it.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
It is a very conscious choice.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
And so Lamar likes to plant seeds of things that
he thinks that will just like take off and make
my life seem like it's more interesting.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
I like how he said the Kanye like the way
they do in the in the documentary and Kanye, you
know the guy who for the and Kanye.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
I once made a joke, but I when I first
started a new girl and I met with somebody and
I was like, oh, so so sorry, But I bumped
into Lenny Kravitz and he like asked me on a
date and then.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
So we're gonna do that later.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Like in my mind, that was such an obvious, ridiculous joke,
you know what I mean, Like like I saw Santa
Claus and he was interested, Like that's what I thought.
And then it kind of like got back to me
through my like agent at the time to be like, WHOA, so,
like you were going on a date with Lenny Kravitz.
I was like what I was like, that to me
(19:42):
is so preposterous and insane.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
That would have never started postrous to me.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
That things that I think are crazy to me in
my life.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Everybody's like, well, that can totally happen. I don't understand
what this feels insane Hannah.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Rumors that I I am dating Zoe Kravitz.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
This is the this is You've been trying to make
that happen just by like trying to manifest by saying
insane things about you and Zoe Krabt.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Yeah, no one will ever believe that though not happening.
Thank you. I feel like you know her, I feel
like you should put a good word in thank you.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Okay, absence.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
I want to ask about the absent thing because it's
one of the funniest things too in this episode. Have
you ever tried it? Have you ever done it? They
have been around it.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
I went to Sweden before and I got a bottle
of absence, and I thought that it was I'm one
of five kids. We grew up in a military family.
We weren't like goodie two shoes at all. In fact,
my older siblings were They're all smart, got straight, a's
all great, but they were like definitely not. They weren't
bad kids, but like I didn't cause any trouble. And
I was like, there's a lot of stuff I didn't
(20:49):
know about. I didn't know a lot of sexual stuff.
I didn't know a lot of drugs. I didn't know
any But I just my brain didn't like, go there,
where are you in the birth order of the time,
second to the last got it? And I just I
just wasn't into any of that stuff. And like even socially,
like I would joke or fight back with people the
(21:09):
way that I would with like my siblings. So like
when I first got on television. I was twenty six
when there was no Twitter, by the way, and there
was like forums, and so I would talk back the
way I do with my siblings and had to learn
very quickly like oh, like that doesn't fly when you're
like a public position at all. But that's just like
my brain was, like I kind of operated like as
(21:31):
like the fourth child and like even into an adult
in a way that like I didn't care to learn
the things I didn't know. I didn't like I would
just kind of, you know, an absence. I know this
is like a circuitous way to get back to absence,
but I in my head, i'd probably seen some movie
or something where it was like the Devil's Juice, you know,
and you're gonna go crazy, and so I remember being like,
(21:54):
they sell absent here, and he was like yeah, I'm
like and I like thought it was so cool. I'm
gonna get two bottles. I put in my suitcase and
brought it back. Come to find out you can get
in America, Like sure, but I remember drinking and being like, okay,
here we go and see the moon. No, I think
so the New Girl episode was nothing like my actual
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experience with absent have you guys had absence before.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Lamar, not not in the way that it's supposed to
be prepared. I'm similar to you. I didn't have my
first drink until I was twenty two, so I didn't know.
I didn't know anything really, and I would see movies
where people would drink absent and then hallucinate, and I said,
I want to try that. And then I tried absent
and I didn't hallucinate, right. I was like, this, don't
(22:41):
even taste that great? What am I doing? And then
someone was like, oh, you gotta you gotta have like
sugar and you gotta heat it up and you got
to do it. I was like, what the fuck?
Speaker 5 (22:51):
No, I just like you turn into a like I
got some Yeah, you get a cauldron.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
That's essentially what we're telling me. And I was not.
So I never I've never after that. I never tried it.
But you're right, you see it everywhere and you just
kind of go, well, that was a joke. That was
a big miss.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
I remember being in I was the same thing.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Also, didn't drink till like in my early twenties and
was trying to always make good choices. And I met
this guy and I think you realize this is not
you know, like we're getting along, but nothing is going
to happen. We're not like leaving this bar together. And
so he was like, I think he had watched these
movies about absent.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Let's do a shot of absence.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
And I was like hi, And I think in his mind,
this terrible dude. He was like he thought it would
be like a roofie, you know, like she'd be I'd
hallucinate and now he could like change the nature of
who I am. And then this night ago in a
different direction, and I like, you know, did the shot
of Absinth and no, still a hard no for me, bud,
(23:55):
but you know, thanks for the shot and bye. He
thought absence made them And I remember like walking out
of the bar and I was like, so, I'm going
to catch the bus home, and he was just sort
of like do you.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Want to go back to like another shot? And I
was just like I think I was.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
Like, say, he's like I've got some sugar, some hot water.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
It was the funniest moment where I was just like, oh,
she would just try to like roofy me and it's
just like not working, and I'm like, no, I feel
like sorry for you.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
I'm like, you're a back room apart.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
He was like, I'm going to try this, and I
was just like, you're a terrible human being. So it
was kind of funny to watch this guy try to
be evil.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Let's jump back into this one now, Nick is Nick
is forced to be here, right, he's he's and.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
It's free, that's the thing. He comes as a free
trip and she's manipulating him.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Yeah, but she's like but in the beginning, she's like
asking him to be there.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Yeah, and so, but we do.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
See him in his truest state. He's having a lot
of fun with with Angie, but deep down, at its core,
he is becoming someone who he doesn't really want to be,
which I think is an interesting trait for someone like
Nick because he's very adamant about being himself on the show,
like we talked about being unapologetic. He's unapologetically a bum
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and he's a lazy person. But with Angie he feels like, oh,
I have to pretend to be cool. I have to
pretend to be down with this idea of having like
a swingers party, for example, because that's ultimately what ends
up happening. Angie assumes that this is a swinger situation, which,
by the way.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Like kind of a fair assumption.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
If you're in an open relationship, you're invited to a
cabin with a couple other people, you're doing you know,
and then he's like, I'm going upstairs with this one.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
Now.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
I love how you think that's a normal assumption.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
It's air assumption.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
But if we're in an.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Relationship and then the other you're guy, okay, we're not
to each other, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Look, Hannah, Hannah, is that what you can be going
camping all the time.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
You must have been sheltered like the morning.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
I too.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
I'm like, isn't that what happens? I guess that's what
would happened.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
You've never gone camping.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
That's actually will not camp. I'm just like, I guess
weird out there. You're alone in the woods. There's bears,
I don't know, no, thank you, and swingers.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
I used to do it as a kid. It's not
a cute thing to do.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
No, doesn't seem like that.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
You can't sell it to me. It's not interesting to
me whatsoever. Oh for like a walk in the woods,
but I'm not gonna like sleep there.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
Well, thank you have you just walked in the woods.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Come on, now, another thing going on in this episode,
which I let's swish to the bet story a little
bit and then we'll come back to the cabin Schmidt.
Schmid is up to his old ways again. Schmid is
uh so, he sees Winston having a conversation with some
with some people who happened to be black folks, and
(27:02):
he's like, oh man, your your your face lit up.
You were you seemed to be electric and you you
seem to be your ticks pixel. Oh my god. You know,
so let's talk about that a little bit. I know,
we we we dove into it a little bit at
the beginning of the show. But let's talk about this
in particular. How fucked up was this? How fucked up
(27:25):
was this moment?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Here's my question for you, lamoarn because knowing you well,
when after you guys come back from the bar and
you're in Winston's room and Max has to walk over
to you and put that rasta hat on your head, yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
I could. I felt like that's when you were no
longer in character.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
I felt like I could see in your face you
were like, we're we're at the line and now we're
going over the line.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Yeah, there were, they were habitual line steppers on this show,
and that was one of them. I remember, and I
feel for and I feel for you. And here's why,
because we're going to go to a commercial break, and
when we come back, we're going to see if you
found the damn bear. Olivia. There's something we do on
this on this show where Hannah seems to have this
(28:13):
there's this theory flowing.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
I don't be clear. So Olivia understands this is not okay. No,
this is not anything okay. So there is a huge
fan theory that there is a bear reference picture mentioned
in every single episode of New Girl, right, And from
what I have seen, that is true. The more things
(28:34):
you've seen a bear in every episode or it said bear,
there's some reference of bear the morning.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
Have you seen a few witnesses as well.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
He has decided not to get himself involved.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
No, I mean it's it's in a few episodes, okay.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
And so I've taken on as my mission with the fans.
I watch the show and they send me in proof
that this happens. So, you know, go to your commercial break,
come back, and I will tell you all about two
on two cabin and the bear situation.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Okay bye bye, yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Ok to break damn it and we are back from
break Hannah. Yeah, you go go ahead and disappoint the
fans one more time.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
Ah, where's the bear?
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Let them down?
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Where's the bear?
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Oh? Where's this damn bear? Where's the bear?
Speaker 1 (29:25):
And the opening act of the episode, when Jess is
selling it to Nick of why he should go to
the cabin, she says, you can sleep on a bear
rug but bow bow, thank you so much. So, yes,
there's a definite bear, spoken by Zoe Dachanel herself right
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at the top of the episode.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
Boy bye, I know it hurts you when I find it.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
That's the best thing because he just then usually goes
on a tie rate about how ridiculous, like when I
watch the episode, I'm always watching for the bear, and
he's just like, you're have lost her.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
I think that he loves to hate it.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
I know that's what I'm saying. That's exactly true.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
So he gets so sad because then he's like, well,
I have nothing to talk about now that you found it.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
I do. You don't got to dig too deep. I
do love to hate it. Here in his life, because
let me tell you how it started. It started as
there is a there is a bear image. It started
as a bear image. Let me tell you how desperate
she got. Now it's a reference of a bear. She
even got so desperate that Brett Bear one of our
(30:27):
creators of the show. She's in producers of the show
and writer.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
She that's bear.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
It's not even spelled the way bear is. Like a
man could walk out of a room. Nick can walk
out of a room with a shirt off, and she's
going to go, oh, bear chested, look at that.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
This is you do that? Okay?
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Sometimes sometimes Look, there's one hundred and fifty episodes. They
make some mistakes, okay, like they can't hit it every
single time. But I still say it's like an eighty
percent thing that there is some method to the madness
of that in one hundred and fifte episodes.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
The question is this, though, are do you think they
are easter eggs or do you think it's an accidental
like from God, He's like putting this in.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
But how can it be accidental?
Speaker 1 (31:05):
I think that it's intentional because if a hundred of
them have a weird bear reference every single time, it's so.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Straight it would have to be purposeful. But if it was,
it wouldn't be bear as in a last name, and
it wouldn't be e hr, and it wouldn't be bare chested.
It would be b e r every single time if
it was deliberate.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
But these are comedians. Sometimes it's bare feet, you know.
Sometimes they have to be creative. Listen, Okay, we're not
dividing into camps here. Okay, this is like lamar.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
Sorry, Hannah, I've got to get checked out. You need how.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
I mean, these are facts. These are facts for different reasons.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
I just need something to look for. It helps me
keep my attention.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Now, let's let's dive back in a little bit. So
what's happening back at the law right now? At the
law right now, everyone's stressed out due to the fact
that there was a misconcen about this this swinger thing,
right yeah, and what's happening. So Nick, feeling a little
bit uncomfortable, chugs, he chugs the the cheps serum, the
(32:13):
truth serum. He tells all the truths and then he
comes out there and he's like, listen, I got a
problem with this. I don't like this at all. I
don't want to be I like you, I don't want
to be in this open situation. Have you ever been
in a situation like this where you thought everything was
all good in a relationship and finally the guy came
out and said, you know what, I don't Actually, I
(32:34):
don't think it's cool that you that you wear glasses,
be blind. I don't I don't like the fact that
you I don't like I don't like that.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
I think it's a thing of like, have you ever
been on a situation we're in two different pages, right,
I think that's the thing, and you're trying to be
cool with their page, but you're really not.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Yeah, I could tell you it happens in every relationship.
That's why I'm single.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
By the way, Olivia, you know somebody for lamarn This
is a low key day show for Lamore and he
needs someone, you know, so.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
Nice, smart, handsome. It's kind of crazy. When was your
last relationship and what are your issues?
Speaker 3 (33:09):
I means my issue are the issue. I'm busy. I'm busy.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
I have a child that comes to Numero, you know,
in my life, so a lot of times I don't
have the bandwidth to give out so much attention, and
I co parent. So my daughter is with her mom
one week, she's with me one week, So I need
to make up for that time when I have her.
And so a lot of times I'll be, you know,
I'll be dating someone and they don't necessarily they say
(33:35):
they're okay with it, but their actions are telling me
they are not okay with it, And so I moon
walk my black ass on up out of there, and uh,
you know.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
But it is not What are you looking for? I'm
going through my role with ax in my brain.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
What am I looking for? Busy? Someone who is busy,
someone who is it's got their own situation happening. And
if I and we can compliment each other and go
and have fun and then understand that we are both
doing something else and then come back. You know, I'm
looking for someone who's funny. You gotta be funny. You
(34:14):
don't have to be a comedian, but you gotta be.
You gotta be able to take a joke because I
don't know how to stop telling them. Uh so, yeah,
that's that's pretty much it. She gotta be. You gotta
be thick. I'm kidding. She got like weird stuff. No,
but yeah, that's pretty much it. I'm easy, I'm easy.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
I think it's the understanding that you have a daughter
and that she comes first, and someone who actually understands that,
and it's school with that. That's what we're looking for
from the hunt.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Keep your eyes because eventually it turns into a group thing.
Eventually will turn into a group thing, so she will
get that attention. But I need to be comfortable first, yeah, before.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Right, Okay, this is what this podcast is low key
to recap slash.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
Change Lamarne's dating status situation. He's openly seeking.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Okay, okay, let's jump back in.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
This is like when this is my this is my
third episode and then I'm out after this.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
This was mye Yeah because you leave him, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
Because I think it's clear that he's in love with
He's always.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Character yeah, which is which I found interesting. When she
got sick and she went upstairs, He's like, I gotta
go up there and handle yeah, And I was like,
do you bruh'.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Well that's I mean, that's what your character is. What
Angie said. She's like, you're going up there with her?
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
It was a I mean, obviously for my character bummer,
But as a fan of the show, I was like,
go upstairs the show from the beginning. I remember all
of your advertisements very beginning, and it was like I
was like, Oh, what's you know this is? This is
back when it was like there's four five networks right
(36:07):
that people really watched, and so when a show came on,
you're like, everyone knew about that show. It's a very
exciting time. I know it had to be As an actor,
I knew it had to be for you guys, because
you're like, because you get these other like lottery tickets,
You're like, oh my god. And then I remember the
so I watched it from the genesis. So when I'm
playing the character who's dating Nick, I'm going like, Nick,
(36:33):
that's right, she's right there. Like I was definitely like
very I was. I was really happy to be part
of as a as a fan and also as an actor.
I was happy to be part of an arc that
was the window that led to another another place in
their relationship. It helps you know the show progressed from
(36:53):
that moment. You know had to. It had to make
a left turn at some point, and that was that
that moment where you're like, oh, he's choosing he's with
somebody and he's choosing her over over the presentation. You're like,
and he's clocking that, she's clocking it. And it was
a nice it's a nice it. It felt good for
me to send him off the onto his next journey.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
I will say too.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
When I rewatched it, you know, you get to see
angiebe totally wild and herself. But that moment when they're
having that heart to heart on the bed together Nick
and Angie and you go like, wow, this is like
a really emotionally honest conversation.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
This is really sweet.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
And then he starts screaming bird and hits the deck
and she, with like zero judgment, just stands up and
looks around and.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
Takes the picture of the bird off the wall.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
It was one of the most sweet, loving things, you know,
like a best friend who has no judgment to be.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
Like, oh, you're still in it. I got you, okay,
don't worry. The big bad birds out of here.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
I thought that was like such a It was one
of those moments where I found like I forgot but
this was like the last episode and then you're just
like peace by I'm out of here that you go like.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
Oh, they are a good man because he's a.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Real weird yeah yeah, and has that and there was
no judgment, full safe space, We'll get the big scary
bird out.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
And I thought that was really sweet and.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
You're like, oh, but there could be something, yeah, just
a little bit more, and then gone, well.
Speaker 5 (38:22):
You know, I think that and I what I love that.
That's what the great thing about the show is, Like,
I think the show always showed the complexities of life
and how you know a lot of times you could
truly be happy with a lot of different people, and
you could truly be miserable with a lot of different people,
and you just have to you know, the biggest thing
in life that I have learned is you've got to
make a decision, and you've got to make a decision.
(38:44):
And what you hope is that by the time you're
in a place where you realize that you just make
a decision and move forward, that you're really in a
healthy place, that you've learned a lot of your lessons
so that you're able to pick the best decision for yourself.
But in that moment, it's like the doors left, right,
you go. And I think that was the beautiful thing
(39:04):
about the show is that there's always there's always those
layers to life and you're trying to juggle them all
at the same time, and all of the feelings and
there's like regret and love and passion and sadness and
it's all of.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
That at once.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
Yeah, this was it a great, great job of creating
that show.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
That's ben the best piece of advice like my dad
ever gave. But I remember asking him and I was like,
should I do this?
Speaker 4 (39:28):
Should I do that?
Speaker 1 (39:29):
I go to my dad for a lot of things,
and he was like, the only wrong decision is no decision.
Make a decision that's the right decision, but then fully
commit to it. Yeah, And that has always stuck with me.
When you're kind of sitting in that limbo, this is
why it feels wrong. Yeah, it's because you need to
(39:52):
sit there and you can't keep one foot in that
other lane, which is what you're what you're sharing too.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Every time I would go to my dad, he the
number you have reached and then they'll be like, oh shit,
So all that note, feel sorry for me. On that note,
I want to play a little game with you, Hannah.
Let's mess around a little bit. Can we do that
with Olivia. Yeah, okay, we're going to commercial break and
(40:18):
then we come back. We're going to do that. Boom,
we're back from commercial break, Olivia. A few questions for you,
all right, If you were trapped in a cabin in
the woods with three other people with no heat and electricity,
which three people that you know would give you the
(40:39):
best chance to survive? You don't have the name names
if you don't want to, but please share.
Speaker 5 (40:46):
I'm okay, okay, I'm in a cabin, no chance of.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
No heat, heat, no electricity, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (40:54):
No electricity. Okay. It would be first of all, my
younger brother Johnny, who just got his PhD in physics.
This guy is brilliant. We're going to figure out a
way to be warm. He's going to figure out whatever
it is. He's the guy. It'll be my boyfriend John
(41:17):
who makes me laugh so much, and I think that
I'll laugh so much that it'll keep me warm. I'll
just be like constantly.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Crunching over So John and Johnny, John and Johnny.
Speaker 5 (41:31):
And I would say my mom, because my mom grew
up in Vietnam and she really I think that, you know,
she grew up in a world where she's really resourceful.
She can figure anything out. Everything she can figure out.
So those would be the three.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
Okay, yeah, me. My mom would be one of those people.
My mom, And then I would just find two navy
seals that I know.
Speaker 4 (42:02):
You're like. I would get an electrician. I get someone
with a lot of firewood and a match.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Yeah, and my mom just to hang out while we
watch just people work and get this ship together.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
Let's say I got another one here for you.
Speaker 5 (42:20):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
You had a lot of scenes with Jake Johnson, who
was known for being quite a serious and dramatic actor.
How we're filming those scenes with him? And uh, you
know what did you do to stay in those scenes?
Because he does a lot of bits he improvises. I
am convinced he cannot read, So you know what did
you do to stay alive in those scenes?
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Jake and I got along so incredibly well.
Speaker 5 (42:42):
We we just wanted to I'm sure people say this
all the time with him, but it was like instant
friends and and it was just really easy to I mean,
I'm very bad at at breaking. If you make me laugh,
I will laugh so hard and then it's impossible to
(43:02):
make me stop. You know, like when you start, you
break laughing and then makes the crew laugh, and then
try to go again, and then you break laughing and
the cruise laughing because it's funny, and then eventually crew
gets mad at you because it's right, it's been going
on for five takes. That's when I think it's the
funniest because I start thinking, oh my god, they're so
mad at me and I won't stop, and then I
(43:23):
go into like five more takes. So so that was
like my life with Jake was just me constantly being like,
everyone's going to be so mad at me. This is
so so hard just to stay foked.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
There's a reaction shot of you when he's sitting at
the dinner table completely.
Speaker 4 (43:40):
High, losing his mind, and he's like, if.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
You're a top hat, you'd be a big top pat
with but like the monopoly, He's going on and on
and on.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
There's a teacher had a weird tuf think about.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
It that thing, and they cut to you, and I
think the way they use it in the edit is
just like Angie loves it, loves it like it loves
a fucked up nick. This is great, but I feel
like I know you a little bit enough.
Speaker 4 (44:01):
Where i'd be. I was like, I think Olivia is
just like laughing and loving.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
I love Jake going fully committed to being as drunk
and weird as humanly possible. It just was like the
sweetest look on your face of like this man is
just going and I just get to sit here and watch,
which is really.
Speaker 5 (44:19):
I remember that moment and I remember just watching and
I was like I remember thinking, like a lot of
that stuff wasn't in all pacts. It wasn't an ault line.
I was just like somebody wound up this guy and
we're like go and he just like it's so funny.
He's so funny. He really thinks of you know, in
his delivery and his voice. It's so funny because what
(44:43):
he's saying is always very clever and heightened intelligence and
like in the best comedic way, but the way it
comes out is so gravelly and bumbly and like it's
just that it's so it's like that beautiful mix of
just like it just catches you off guard because you're like,
it's he's just the best.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
He is the best there was.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
I feel like they always released those like top five
list of actors who play like drunk.
Speaker 4 (45:05):
The best and Jake is always on them. He's always
always on them, and it's very true.
Speaker 5 (45:09):
It's hard to play it is.
Speaker 4 (45:11):
Oh yeah, he's always on them. He did somehow, that's
his wheelhouse.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Yeah, good him.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
Yeah, we got one more question for you. Your character
Angie was a motorcycle riding, gun shooting bad ass. Are
those characters more fun to play than others? Also? What
type of prep? I know you have a military background,
but what type of prep do you go into when playing.
Speaker 4 (45:31):
A lot of action stuff? Actually in your current of action?
Speaker 5 (45:34):
I you know, I did grow up in a military
family and also being Asian, it was non negotiable we
have to do martial arts growing up. So since like
three years old, I was in martial arts. So I
got a black belt in taekwondo and like that's what
we had to do. It Like what Yeah, so that
was really fun to do. But but there's something like
a the answer is to play a character, it's not
(45:57):
as much fun as like it was a really fun
time with a new Girl. But I I like, like
my character on the Newsroom probably the best. It's to
play wild crazy like it's uh, it's fun, but sometimes
it can be kind of like like like that's kind
of what they always default to when you're when you're working,
like so when you you don't really get as many levels,
(46:19):
and so they're not gonna unless you're doing a film
where this person's like, you know, you get to see
her whole like arc and stuff and and and her
down moments and and things like that. But but it's
usually the person who comes in and is just like
you know, wild and like what you see with Angie.
You know, we have moments, thankfully, you know there was
some beautiful like quieter moments. But uh, but yeah, I
(46:41):
I I prefer I prefer the other whatever the other is.
M Yeah, do you guys like playing that kind of
like party people, wild extremes.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
I don't do it so much action stuff. I love.
I love playing I love that. I love doing that
because it's more a lot of times you could have
full days, even weeks of zero dialogue. You're just kind
of doing a bunch of cool shit, which I which
I enjoy. It kind of gives me a break a
little bit. I remember the last action net thing I
(47:15):
did Fargo. There's a big shootout scene and a lot
of that took us six days to shoot this one scene,
and for about two or three of those days, I
didn't say anything, just me and Juneo Temple like roaming
around doing this cool stuff. These gunshots are going off,
and I thought, man, this is great because then you
(47:36):
have your moment your day. You're a few days of
just a two person scene. So it's a mixture of
both and they figure out a way to blend it together.
And anything else that I've done action related, it's very
similar to that. So I actually enjoy doing those a
lot because you get to do both in those moments.
So yeah, but being silly, it's still my favorite thing
(47:56):
to do.
Speaker 4 (47:57):
Yeah, I know me too. I have to choose it
every time.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
I'll be like, just put me across the table from
somebody else, so let us talk and get weird. I
just did a show with Gina Rodriguez not dead yet
in Laura ash And when they would put the three
of us women in a room and just let us
be really really weird and improv and like, I don't know,
sing weird stuff at each other and you're laughing all day.
(48:22):
I will take that over having to run anywhere. I
don't like any of those days, but like so it's
like a physical day. I'm like, oh God, let me
just sit with funny women and laugh.
Speaker 4 (48:36):
That's uh, those of my dream days.
Speaker 3 (48:39):
We truly do appreciate it, Hannah. Anything you wanna.
Speaker 4 (48:43):
Add, No, I just really appreciate you coming on. It's
it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (48:46):
Like you're saying, people they fall in love with the
characters on this show and everybody that's in that New
Girl universe, and you are definitely one of them. And
so you being on here for us and for all
the people that listen and love the show and are
still newly discovering it.
Speaker 4 (49:01):
It's awesome. So thank you for making the time. We
appreciate you, guys.
Speaker 5 (49:04):
I was so excited to hear you guys are doing
a podcast about the show. It's iconic, and I'm so
happy that all the fans are getting to hear it
from your perspective. It's so cool.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
Awesome, Love you guys.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
Awesome.
Speaker 5 (49:16):
I'm going to find you a girl, love you much,
love much love to find.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
You a girl.
Speaker 5 (49:23):
I'm just gonna find you a bear. I'm straight a bear,
find you a girl later.
Speaker 3 (49:30):
I appreciate it, all.
Speaker 4 (49:31):
Right, everybody, thank you so much for listening.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
Remember to like, subscribe and turn on post certifications for
this podcast. Also, if you like my shirt here of
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We are going to launch this merch on July ninth,
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(49:53):
for the super fans, if you are listening, go to
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Speaker 3 (50:12):
Mm hm. And I got a couple of these hats already,
so I don't need to go to the site.
Speaker 4 (50:16):
We're already shopped in the site. We're terrible.
Speaker 3 (50:20):
That was the mess Around. This has been an iHeartMedia production.
Our executive producer is Joel Monique. Our engineer and editor
is Mia Taylor. Additional production from Daniel Goodman, Wendy Heisler,
and Kyle Sheffrin. A theme song was written and composed
by Ronald Jukebox Jackson. So we're gonna catch you next time. Bye,
Hosts And Creators
Lamorne Morris
Hannah Simone
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