215: Cooler

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Babe, babe, listen before we This is the biggest episode.
I feel it's like of season two, which is saying
something because we had t Swift in the finale cooler
you know what it is. But listen before we get
into it, before we get into it, before we get
into before we get into it, I have one word

(00:20):
to say.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Emmy, Emmy, Emmy, Emmy, Emmy, Emmy, Emmy, Emmy, Emmy, Emmy, Emmy, Emmy,
Long Time Coming Emmy nominated, Lamar and Morris.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
Yes, come, yeah, come, I mean that's not.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
I want everybody now. Yeah, yeah, I know. I know.

(01:11):
It's weird. It feels weird.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Does it feel weird?

Speaker 2 (01:14):
It feels very very weird. I wasn't I don't know
if I was expecting it. I was, you know. I
knew I was a part of a show that was
going to get some Emmy love. All the actors on
the show are dope, you know what I mean. So
I knew it was going to be a thing. And
when it happened, and I tell you, I was in
complete disbelief and I couldn't even I couldn't even speak.

(01:37):
When my manager of my publicist called and I just
started crying immediately, and I was like, I thought they
were working with me.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
I tell you something, Can I just can I make
this about me for a moment. So in our little
thread we have with our friends, this like the screencap
came up with like you know, you being nominated, and
I literally was like, because you guys fuck with me sometimes.
I was like, they're just like there are they? And
I googled Lamar and Morris Emmy and it was like

(02:12):
nine minutes ago. And then I immediately started crying. And
then I called you because I was like, oh my,
I don't know why. It just I feel like it's
always been in your future to be recognized for the
incredible work that you do. And it's one of those
moments like when I don't know, like a little dream
come true or you get seen by everybody. It's emotional.

(02:35):
I cried, man, I'm so happy, it's so well deserved.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Oh yeah, I'm gonna post a video of my reaction. Well,
we were sitting down having breakfast, me Lily, Kyle was there.
Kyle had his phone out when I got the call
because he was confused. He thought he didn't know who
I was talking to on the phone, and you know,
if somebody had had died, what was going on? Because
I just started going what what? And I started crying

(03:03):
and Lily was looking at me so confused, Why is
daddy crying? Why are you crying Daddy? And I said,
Daddy's so happy. And at one point I get up
to go walk away to go take the call in
another room, and she say, you're gonna go cry in
your bed? Man. Yeah, So it's still it's since it happened.

(03:26):
I've been on the phone, I've been sending emails, I've
been doing zooms, I've been doing all these things. So
I haven't had really had a time or a moment
to sit back and kind of, you know, just think
about how hard it was to get to get to
that place, or even just to be grateful in the moment,
like to be grateful, just to sit back and just go, wow,
that's so cool. Because I'm you know, we're busy. We're

(03:47):
busy folks. So I'm doing this, doing that, and prepping
for a new show. We're recording this podcast, you know,
doing the the Morning After podcasts. And I am a
single dad, so's.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
There's no time to process sometimes because you just feel
like your mind is always going on the next thing
and the thing the days later and a week later
and whatever. But this is a huge moment.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Just and I just had my teeth pulled and we
were supposed.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
To tape last week and then I got Lamar's going
into oral surgery and I was like what.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
And so it's still it's still a little painful, and
the pain meds they kind of have you a little
loopy at times. So so I've just kind of been
trying to sit back and enjoy it all and uh,
but yeah, but here we are. But this is also
if you if you saw my post on Instagram, for
all the folks out there, it's still a love letter

(04:43):
to a New Girl, just because I'm like, man, the
New Girl fans have been have been riding with us
since day one, and I will never let that go.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Is it gonna make the speech? It's going to make
the speech.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Oh, New Girl will definitely make the speech.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
You know.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
It's funny about it. I just talked to someone and
who's a huge New Girl fan and they were like, oh,
you must have been at all the award shows and
you guys were nominated for everything, like right right, obviously, right,
And I said, well, what happened when New Girl came
out was that it happened to just be in the
year that all of these huge streaming shows came out

(05:20):
that didn't fit into a classic comedy or classic drama,
and they didn't know what to do with them come
award season and for the nominations, and so a lot
of shows that were pretty dramatic got lumped into the
comedy world. So all of a sudden, like New Girl
was nominated, but up against Girls and Oranges, The New

(05:41):
Black and those shows, you know, had big, hard hitting
moments and powerful things that they were trying to convey,
and so they would just clean house and we never won.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Hey, did we even go to the Emmys? You went?
Probably no?

Speaker 1 (06:02):
I know I went like I went to like a party.
But Zoe and Max both were nominated for an Emmy
and didn't win because they're not because and there was
a episode mix up, right, They submitted for them for
their Emmy nominations. You get to submit an episode, and
they submitted Max's episode for Zoe, which wasn't like a

(06:24):
big Zoe one, and Zoe's episode like where she does
all these incredible things for Max where he didn't have
a huge storyline or something. And so there was that
little thing that happened on their one year that got
nominated and the show got nominated for a Globe. We
all went to the Globes. That was super fun. Yeah,
but Modern Family won that year and then it was
after that it was all Orange is the New Black
and girls And so there's this thing I feel like

(06:45):
when I look at our cast, the talented cast we had,
and Liz and Breton Dave, and how this show has
just stood the test of time and it is so
incredible as a group. And then you look like the
episode we're going to recap today, cooler Hello, And to
think that it didn't get that kind of love for
the people that poured their hearts into it, sometimes I'm
just like.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
Well, we are robbed.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
So to see you get this Emmy nomination, You're right,
it does kind of all the way go back to
New Girl, where you're just like, we're due, Yes.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
I think. So. You know what's interesting is that I
went into it. I went into this EMT season thinking
to myself, you know, I just want to be nominated.
I really do, And I really just wanted our show
to be nominated, but I had a feeling we would be,
and so once that happened, I was like, that would
be really cool if I got nominated. However, that's where

(07:36):
it stops, right, No thought about ever winning one. But
now that I'm like going through this process, I'm like,
how wild would that be if I did? That would
be so strange. I don't know, you know, that's something
that you can't, like in your wildest dreams ever fathom,

(07:57):
you know. So it'd be cool, it'd be really really nice.
But I'm honestly, I'm happy to just be in that
category with all these folks. So it's like, Okay, that's dope.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Man, I'm happy. You know, if your first seconds, all
the other people that are on the list to be
your date, if something happens, just know, I'd like thought
about like a dress or like whatever, if you just
like needed someone to like come and like hold your

(08:24):
coat or something, or like ring snacks, if you just
if there was a need, and if everybody says they're
available and everything, if I show up like a few
days before and just like cough on them just to
kind of make something happen for me, I just want
you to know it was all done with good intention, no,

(08:44):
first of all, also also jokes, I'd be like my
anxiety nightmare, just be like, all right, man emym mem
mem memmy, let's go to break. We'll come back. We
will talk about the episode everybody's waiting to talk about
all season two, you.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Know, Cooler, and we are back.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
It's here the episode.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yes, the episode Cooler, Cooler. Would you consider this the
greatest kiss? And we'll dive right into the episode after
this question that I have for Hannah though it is
the greatest kiss in the television history and sitcom history outside.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Honestly, I genuinely feel like it is in TV history.
It matches like the greatest movie kisses of all time.
Like you watch it and you're just like whoa, yeah, okay,
Like everything somehow like ticks every box of all the

(09:48):
like romantic fantasies that girls have at least of just
like wow, there was just like it was authentic and
it was powerful. He went back in for a little
kiss at the end. It was it's just like.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Hold on, just so we're on the same page. We're
talking about the Lamourne and Brenda song.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
I was talking about the kids that Schmidt gave Nick
before he ran off with Brooklyn Decker. Is that what
we're talking about?

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah, I'm all turned around. Everybody was kissing in this episode.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Hard to know which kiss people are talking about? All right,
before we dive all the way and give us that
little recap.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Okay, so here's the thing, Nick, Winston and Schmidt. They
decide they need a boy's night out so they can
break their dry spell. Yes, this happens. A man can
only go so long, you feel me. So they decide
to leave Jess at home because of her cooler ways.
Quickly into the night just caused everyone to let them
know that she's hearing noises outside. She thinks it's the Grips.

(10:51):
The boys returned with Holly and Daisy played by Brooklyn
Decker and Brenda's song, and all of a sudden, a
risky game of true American breaks out that ends with
Nick and just having to dun, dun guess. Okay, let's
let's let's start from the top here. So when we

(11:13):
open up, we had Nick dancing around in a woman's
coat that was accidentally sent to their apartment. Yes, he
does this dance in it. I think he spins twirls
and does like a thing that I always forgot that
that's where he I believe that's where he did it first.
But he's done that dance, I believe on numerous occasions.

(11:34):
That's like a go to Jake Johnson move. But for
some reason, that coat there was a certain flare he
had about himself.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah, he was feeling it. And I also feel like Loki,
Jake Johnson did not hate that coat. No, I feel
like he was like, you know what's not bad?

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Oh yeah, Jake feels like I think he rocks stuff
like that from time to time.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
For sure. I think he probably asked the genuine question
like this, this is what, like what makes this woman's coat?
Like a real genuine question.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
I could see that being a question of his.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
I'm gonna flag just so you know. So I watched
this episode several times because I went through my emails
and I found the table draft, and then I found
the production draft. So you do a table read, you
kind of read the script in front of the studio
the network. Then they give notes, then they incorporate those notes,

(12:26):
and then that's the script we shoot with, called the
production draft. So I read the table draft after I
watched the episode, I was like, wait a minute, so
much is different. There was this is huge. There was
no kiss, no kiss at the table read it didn't exist.

(12:46):
The way the episode ends, I just want to say
this out loud because I genuinely was shocked. The way
the episode ends is that the woman that trench coat
belongs to comes to the door, right, that's my coat.
That which does still happen at the end of this episode.
And then they kind of make some googly eyes at

(13:07):
each other. Yes, and then he goes off with her
and justs' is like bye, And that's the end of
the episode. And obviously some big chats happened. And Dave
Finkel talked about this in an interview a decade ago,
more than a decade ago, where he basically said, look,

(13:28):
in today's like dating culture, people do like they're grown ups.
They hook up, they don't, they get together, they don't.
And with this many charged moments that happened in the episode,
this looks the challenge of the kiss, the tension. We
are now lying, you know, and not being honest with
our audience if they don't kiss, like, what are we

(13:50):
doing now? And so then they added it in it
was not in the table read. That shook me.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Because what's interesting is that when I was watching it,
I said to my damn Jess, like you really made
it so the only person who in the lawt who
didn't get none was was Nick. You just you just
you just and then brought another guy over and then
you and doctor Sam are doing y'all think, I said,
that is cold blooded. But then now that you say

(14:18):
that the draft originally had it where everybody goes their
separate ways and everybody you know, ends their dry spell.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
That's right interesting And it also kind of explains to
me a little bit about like the trench coat, like
they had that planted in the beginning and it's full
circle of where like you know, Nick ends up. But anyway,
I thought that was crazy. It's in the production draft
the kiss is there.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
I wonder if that was a reshoot. I that's hard
to go and see, to to go and look up
if that was a reshoot. Day that they went back
watched the episode and realized, you know what, No, we
have to we have to go back and reshoot this
moment where the kiss actually happened.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
No, no, it was in the production draft. And then
Rebecca Adelman will listen to it. Who wrote this episode,
brilliant Rebecca Adelman. She sent us a voice memo all
about the kiss.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
We have a voice memo from Rebecca.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yes, So when we get to the kiss part, I'll
play what Rebecca the writer said about it and how
they got to that world of the kiss, and then
the response from the writers and producers that were in
the room when it happened. We will get there, so.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Right after that. First of all, Also Max Winkler, the Fantastic.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Director, fantastic director directed a bunch of new girls crushed
this episode.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
So Schmidt, now, I don't think I've ever in my
real life ever had this happen or have heard about
this ever happening. So I'm curious to I'm curious as
to which writer has experienced this. So Schmidt, he walks
out of his room in a towel, and he's letting
everyone know that he's been trying to beat off the
span has been trying to masturbate unsuccessfully for.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
The last hour on a hot summer day. By the way,
that was in the table draft and the production draft.
And you did it as written, because that joke is great.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Yeah, yeah, it's such a Schmid thing. However, I'm like
a lot of a lot of our characters traits and
characteristics come from the imagination of our writers due to
personal experiences that they've had. And I couldn't get to
the bottom of that one of which writer has had

(16:31):
this happen to them. But we will, we will figure
this out. I don't think anyone's like raising their hands
to admit that.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
I thought it was also a funny line from Jess
where she's like, has the door been opened?

Speaker 2 (16:41):
The whole time.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
We've all had that roommate where you're like, close the door.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
What do you do? Just trying to make it happen
for myself. Now, Schmidt he wants to go out, and
his phrasing of it was off. You know, when he's
asking the guys that they want to join him and
having sex tonight. What he's trying to say is, I'm
going out to find someone to hook up with. Do
you all want to join? And Winston and the quest,

(17:11):
the quest, the quest to achieve said interaction with a
lovely young person, and so they Winston decides yes because
Winston is also on a dry spell, and you know, Winston,
like myself when I am when I have taken hiatuses.

(17:32):
Once you decide to jump back out there. It is
difficult to talk to women. It's just yeah, because you
don't I don't know what it is. You know what
I mean. It's it's different times. I guess it's easier
on dating apps to just make something happen, but in person,
you know, they show a flashback when a girl asked

(17:53):
Winston his name, he just goes, yeah, he just it's like,
it's like a moment, I'll be honest with you, I've
done that.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
My name, you're asked my name, my name, my name,
me my birth the name. I will say. I have
had people talk to me many years ago, but they Yeah.
It's funny when you realize that they're like they're not
in their body. They're trying to have a conversation, but
they're not in their body anymore, and they're watching themselves

(18:28):
going got together. Yeah, you want to walk away, and
then just sometimes they're just like they disappear into the night.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
It's great to know that women on the other end
can acknowledge that when men are acting a certain.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Way, you want to be like, yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Take that, take that, I'll be right here.

Speaker 4 (18:46):
Come back to come back to me.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
Well, we've all been there, it's okay.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Have you ever been a part of the so this next,
The next thing that happens is just wants to join in.
And this is when we this is when we realize
what the word cooler is.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Yeah, not like what you usually think. Someone's like cooler, right,
make a cooler offer.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Yes, exactly, like she can definitely, you know, lower the
temperature in the room. You know, And has that ever
happened to you where you you know, because you got
a group of guys that you kick it with, you're
drinking buddies, et cetera. And they're like they either go
out and don't tell you, and then you realize like,
oh they've been they've been having fun without me.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
I feel like you. I feel like in some date
when we were started being friends, you're like, well, going
out there meet girls, like, don't come like you're gonna
be there, No girl's gonna come up to us, like
or come later, show up later, don't be there? Who
trying to get girls? Because if you're sitting there, no
girl's gonna come over.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
That's true, that is that's one hundred true.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
Because I'm also a real girls girl. If a girl
came over and be like, hey, what's going on? Oh yeah,
where are you from? Would you like, well, should we.

Speaker 4 (19:52):
Go get a drink.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
We're gonna go to the bathroom.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
We'll be back in a second.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
And you'd be like can you.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Just and then wait? Yeah, yeah for sure. Yeah, okay,
so that has happened to you. I've done that. I
did that today. Actually I didn't do it today, but
I so, you know, our birthdays are close, very close,
very close. I'm having a birthday party at my house,

(20:19):
not on my actual birthday, but you know, around that time.
But my friends who are helping me organize it. I
told one friend in particular, I said, hey, don't forget
to invite all your girlfriends. You know, I have a
few girlfriends that I know that are friends and I
but I have a lot of single guy friends that
are coming, and I'm like, oh, it would be nice
to everybody mingle and get to know, you know, just
bring your bring your single girlfriends or the ones who

(20:40):
aren't single whatever. And then she was like, well, no,
because you have a cap on how many people you
want there. And I was like, well, yeah, I'm only
inviting like ten fifteen people, but you know, you can
invite whoever you know. And my sister, Well, I get
my friend Alicia, who I call my sister because when
we go out she is a cooler, and say, this

(21:01):
is my sister. Everybody. She was like, no, no, no,
We're only going to have two people. Invite two of
your girlfriends. That's it. We don't need all them, all
them randoms walking around. I said, no, you see, this
is why us guys, we go out and don't tell
y'all sometimes because the competition.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
She's she's out there looking.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
She says, my birthday. I said, it's my birthday. This
is ain't about you. Can I get a day? Can
I get a day when people are people are showing
me some love and some attention, and so.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Yeah, at the endies next, yes, okay.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Well she feels left out, just feels a deflated and
left out. And then the boys are in the bathroom dancing.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
So can I ask you something? I don't even remember this,
but this is me trying to guess because I feel
like I know you well enough, and I know Max
and Jake well enough. And I also had those two
scripts I was reading. There's no dancing okay, And I
feel like Max and Jake started dancing, and I feel
like they had you guys do take after take after

(22:02):
take after take after take, and there's a line and
it's what they end on where Jake says to you,
dance dummy to you, and then you start dancing and
they go out on it, and I feel like Jake knew,
I just want us to do something. We're like dumb
and weird to end this thing. And you didn't dance

(22:22):
in the first dancing chunk, and then the second dancing
chunk he says, dance dummy. You then like dance and
they're like yeah, and then it goes out and I
was like, this feels like I was improvised. They liked
the weirdness. You didn't feel like dancing or feel comfortable dancing.
And then he says in real life, dance dummy, which
makes it as if it's in character, and then it
days that's my theory.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
I think your theory is accurate. Jake was probably fed
up of us continuously doing it and was like, Lamurn,
if you just ef and dance, that's right, then we
will be able to move on to the next scene.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
That's honestly I felt it watching it. I was like,
I know this vibe and I can tell Jake's boy
when he was like, dance dummy, and I was like, oh,
that's just Jake talking to Lamar and being like, can
you dance so that we can moop onto the thing
to shoot today, because I know for a fact I
did not want to dance.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
I knew for a fact, like when they were all dancing,
that is one thing that I definitely don't enjoy doing
on camera is dancing. I don't do it. I don't
like it. I don't like it. I don't like it.
But a new girl, Oh boy, do they like dancing.
They love to make people dance. Yeah, in that moment,
I remember that. You're right. I think they improvised those

(23:33):
moments and they just kept going with it and finally
were like, let's just end this lo morn please, if
you dance, that would be a good ending of the scene.
Because Jake's also a really good scene editor in his brain,
like in real time, he knows what joke to say
that could cap the scene and end it. Yeah, he's
really good at that. And so I believe you are
correct in your assessment of that.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yeah, I thought told you I watched it and I
was like, oh, I know that moment all right. Now
they are over at the bar o yes, where we
meet two very beautiful women, Brooklyn Decker and Brenda's song Hollywood.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, they see they see Brooklyn Decker
at the bar and they all think they got a shot.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yeah, that's true. That's birth the first wild assumption.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah, you just immediately think, you know, in real life
what guys do, at least the guys who are like
good to each other in real life, they see somebody
like that, you're kind of talking out which one want
to Let's it all just go and see who she
gravitates towards. Let's just seem like, you know, you can't
call DIBs like, oh I saw her first exactly. So

(24:51):
usually guys are pretty they're they're Schmidt. In this one
was real ruthless, ruthless and.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Full mode, full Schmidt. You got it all.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Oh yeah. And Winston obviously he tries to shoot his
shot first and it doesn't work out, but but he
happens to stumble upon, you know, at least for a
couple episodes, the love of his life.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
The love of the season.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
The love of the season Daisy played by Brenda's song.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
That was also a switch they made at the table draft.
She just says, I have a boyfriend. But I personally
love the fact that they added this, like I got
a ring, right, because I think, again a place of
the intelligence of the characters. I don't think that Winston
would have been as comfortable as he was and out
of his head as he was if it was just

(25:46):
I have a boyfriend. Oh yeah, yeah, So I think
that was a really smart choice that they made to
be like, no, she's going to show some hardware.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Now, why do women do this? Why do women wear,
you know, wedding rings out when they're not married. I
get the logic, Oh, some people don't talk to me. However,
you get by yourself, you you really just if you
just wanted to drink, you'd make you one at home.
If you go into a very lively public place.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
Now they're alone, usually they're like there with friends or whatever.
But you don't understand, like, there's a lot that happens
when you have moments where you're by yourself, Like you're
gonna walk to the bathroom and come back, and if
there are men out there having those little chit chats
in the corner, deciding who's gonna go where. If a
girl walks by flashing big old ring and she's walking
over to the bathroom and she's cute, you go like,

(26:35):
not that one and she gets a nice leisurely walk
to the bathroom.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Well, you know, I know some men who that's their thing.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Oh that is also true.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
What's up? Because listen, you got a lot to lose,
so do I So you a gonna say nothing, like,
I know some guys that are like that are ruthless.
So I know some women that are like that.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Sure, I watched the Ashley Madison documentary. I know there's
a whole world out there where I'm like, wow, people
love to have complicated situations.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
No, it's so strange.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
That's a real choice. I'm like, man, you need a hobby,
get some puzzles, do something. I will say. One of
the biggest laugh out loud moments of this episode. It's
a great episode, but like real laugh out loud. I
also feel like, because it was improvised, is Max and
Jake to do the slap in the bar and then just.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
They fall to the ground. Yes, yeah, cracked me up.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Because you know they really go for it, you know,
you really hit the floor. You know that it's Max
getting on top of him. You know, like Max is
really doing it. And Jake's like, goddamn it, Max just well,
I don't know why. I just really I forgot about
it again in no script, so fully improvised. Just the takedown,
A slapping, a takedown.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Oh one hundred percent. Oh yeah yeah. And and I
don't think they pulled back on those hits.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
No, You've told so many stories about really getting a slap.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Even thinking about it now, and obviously because I have
a two situation happening, it's it like, I'm not joking.
When you mentioned it, I started feeling my face started
aching because Jake, I don't know if he thinks he's
Daniel da Lewis. She hits for real And I'm like, bro,
you don't have to you can pull that hit. I
think the fans will get it, like it's TV. You

(28:32):
don't have to hit me. He's like, no, I gotta
go for it. I give it to give it my all. Now,
Jess is back at the Laft by herself. Yeah right,
It is so funny. She goes through this entire she's
having so much the law by herself. It's almost like

(28:52):
she never gets this alone time and she's you know,
with the.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Roommates though, and then they all leave and you know
they're not going to be back that night or whatever,
and you're like, Holy, Holy, this huge old house about myself.
I can get weird. And it's also so much of
that was improvised. I looked at that script too, and
you know, that was just like a thick old pack
of Alts that came in to be the tops no bottoms, bottoms,

(29:18):
no tops, tops on the bottoms and the robot life
and the silver and damn you Zimbabwe in the script.
So that was their big I bet Alt pack of
like doing all the weird things and she crushes it.
It's so funny, it's so relatable, because then that's the
problem too. If you're a girl at home alone, you're like,

(29:38):
this is so fun and it's so crazy. I can
walk around them underpants, I don't care, And then all
of a sudden you're like, for sure someone's kind of
murder me. Where are all the people that live with
me to protect me? Very logical train of thought.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
And this is where the whole cooler thing starts to happen. Yes,
Nick explains this to Jess earlier, that she's a cooler
and he explains his issue when he's trying to do
a certain thing with someone and she gets in the way.
And now even though she's at home and he's out,
it happens again because she thinks, you hear something outside
and who is she called? The guys? She gets on

(30:13):
the phone, calls she calls it. Yeah, and guess what.
Schmidt decides he's going to interrupt the smooth interaction that
Nick is randomly having with Holly. By the way, let's
talk about that for a second.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Funny funny is going to be attracted to, by the.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Way, Oh my gosh, she's attracted to broken.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Can't be depressing, has to be just sad. Oh my,
it's so funny. I wonder if sells it.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
Oh for sure.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
There is where at.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
That Dashboard confessional concert right now, just looking for looking
for the sad.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
I mean, that's your market right there. Just show up
and just don't smile like that. Work on that.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Yeah, I gotta stop smiling.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
Yeah, figure it out. Hmm, they go, that's it. You
got half the girls of the concert.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Right there with my dashboard confessional. Fans that raise your hand,
let me know when the next show in LA.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Is such a funny, funny, funny premise, Just sit there
and be because you're trying to think. I guess if
you're building out this episode, what's one woman that would
be so perfect for Nick Miller, like so perfect, then
none of the guys can compete because of what her

(31:35):
specific little kink is. And I just cry laughing when
they were like, she like sad boys, and they're just like,
that's it, that's the thing no one else.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Can compete with.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
It really made me laugh. And Brooklyn Degger crushes it.
Oh you really believe that this is like really doing
it for her. She doesn't like him, but she wants
him and she can't help that. It's such a funny kink.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Oh yeah, oh yeah. And what happens is because Schmidt
is obviously very slick, very smooth, he interrupts that by
giving Nick the phone, and Nick's obviously a great human,
decides Okay, my friend needs my help, and and that
that leaves room for Schmidt to slide in there, and

(32:25):
you know, it's almost working at this point. It's almost
that he is.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
Well, he knows what the thing is. He can see
it a mile away. Schmid's not stupid, He's just like
all right.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
He's like, I'm so sad.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
It could be I just wouldn't be so board, dude.
But he's got to put it on where it's this
really genuine moment. And I love how Jake delivers the
line where she says something like do you ever just
like go home and just think like I'm the worst thing,
I hate myself or whatever the line is, and he
just goes, yeah, I do, like all the time. Yeah yeah,

(32:57):
And then you watch Schmidt like trying to act sad,
but Nick just being like, yeah, that's like my whole life, man,
this is exactly what I do every day, and she's
like sold.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Now. My favorite part of this episode is when Jess,
you know, she's like, I've been worried about my blue curtains.

Speaker 5 (33:15):
She whispers, crips, crips that have me die, that dying
start delivery.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
I mean, I don't know how many times, I don't
know how many takes it took her to do that,
but that was so perfectly delivered.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Scared to even say it, She's just scored to even
say it.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Snoop Dog would be happy, would be very proud, very
very proud. But Nick. Nick is smart.

Speaker 6 (33:44):
Nick.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
You know what he does instead of just leaving, he
brings the whole party back to them.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
He does, he brings the whole party back, which also
bold choice. But he's like, I'm not letting go. I'm
not having this cooler situation happen. We're just going to
continue it here and make sure that my friend's not
getting ord And.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
She decides, you know what, I'm going to show him
that I can. I can help him get laid.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Right because she realizes that she kind of is screwing
it up, so she wants to make it right. Classic
Jess move.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
And so what's her bright idea? Her bright idea is
to have a riskue game of True American.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Yes, we will talk about it after the break JFK Jeffrey.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
And we're back, but Hannah, before we jump into that.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
Wait, no, wait, I don't know. Wait hold on, I
don't know. I know you're gonna ask what you're.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Referring to, Hannah. I know I'm referring to. Could you
just let me say it because I don't even think
you know what I'm about to say. I I don't
think you know what I'm about to say.

Speaker 6 (34:49):
What what are Clinton rules?

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Thank goodness, No, that's not what I was about to say, Hannah,
did you find the damn bear?

Speaker 6 (34:58):
Bears?

Speaker 2 (34:59):
The bear?

Speaker 1 (35:04):
I'm going to say something that's really hard for me
to say. Okay, and listen, you're gonna have the Emmys
to celebrate, Okay, so don't celebrate too hard. Right now.
I am realizing season two mm hmm. But I think

(35:25):
that they were really distracted by these big storylines and
they may have forgot to do their bear placement like
in this episode. And so I just want to say,
if this continues as we recap season two, I will
put it to a pole. I don't want to be emotional,
but I'll put it to a pole on the mess

(35:47):
around pod Ig if we should continue this segment when
we recap season You know that is hard for me.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
I know it's hard for you, and I'm glad that
you're mature enough to admit it. When you're when you're
when you're stupid.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
I don't mean, you know, it's very hard when you
have faith and all of a sudden you start to
realize that maybe Santa Claus is not real. Okay, I'm
in a moment and I'm still going to spend this
season looking to see of like, oh no, I just
had a weakness. I had a weakness at a moment
of doubt, and then I was rewarded by lots of bears.
I'm just saying, if by the end of season two

(36:27):
there are less bears than there are more bears. So
I want to say about it.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Okay, it will be sad to see it go, yeah,
because I do enjoy making funny during this midway point.
I know you, I know the episode, but it's so
hot Tuesday Goodbye two is the bear.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
I would like to say for those of you that
I watched this on YouTube or watch these clips on
our ig right now, the lighting on you very film noir,
is very dramatic, very filmed. I feel like it's like
Raymond Chandler, like you're looking through the slits of the
Venetian blinds, like she was there. The damn the damnsom distress.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Well, what the problem is is that in this room,
and I just moved into this place, and so in
this room in particular, I don't have curtains up. I
just have like a temporary blind that blocks one side
but not this side. So this time of day it
looks very noir.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Yeah, very film noir. I dig it.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Though, very Spider Norse, very dramatic.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
I'm going for my next Emmy nomination and you just
starts the lighting walking around with these crazy lighting kits.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Well, that's my new show, Spider Noir cage. That's true.
I'm getting prepped for it.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
True American, True American, True American. I will say this.
I remember when we read the table draft and I
saw the True American scene and then I saw like mine,
you know, CC there, and I was like, oh my gosh,
she she finally gets to play True American. I was
so excited because I never was part of those shoots
and I still wasn't Cez does not get to play

(38:17):
True American whatsoever. And I remember being really bummed.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Do you ever play you play at some point.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Final season one? CC did it one time? One time.
I played True American one time, and I will say
it was awesome.

Speaker 4 (38:36):
It was the most.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Awesome thing to shoot. But I remember this being like,
oh my god, she gets she gets to play True American.
And no. I also remember about Casisi's at the movies
on a date with Shivering, and they were just trying
to figure out what does like CC on a date
with an Indian man, Like how she presenting herself? What

(38:58):
does this look like? And it was a bit of
a scramble. Things a New Girl sometimes are a bit
of a scramble, and so they were trying to make
me look I guess like just like really put together
and like really sweet. And then I remember walking in
the loft and I'm wearing like tights, a skirt, a
white blouse. My hair is pulled half up with a bow,

(39:22):
and we all went, oh, this is weird because I
look like I'm in Jess cosplay and it doesn't look
like a CC look whatsoever. And I don't think you
ever see cec ever dress like that again, because it
just made no sense in the New Girl universe, right,

(39:43):
But it was so funny. I remember that we put
it together to look really sweet, and then nobody was
really thinking because there's so many things happening in this episode,
and I just looked like a little Indian Jess that
walks in the rock in the room, and it was
very strange. I remember that moment.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
What was that movie that was being watched. I thought,
I remember just that there was a moment that happened
on screen with the movie. And then it turns the
movies over and he's crying.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
He's crying, and he says, it just makes you realize
how much I want kids. I will say this. In
the table draft and production draft, he talks about Orangutan's
He was like, oh, the bond between the mother and
the baby Orangutang. That's like the line. But that all
got cut out and didn't make the thing. But I
don't remember seeing or hearing anything about the movie. Just

(40:31):
watch you have a clear memory, and I have no memory.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
Just watch this, and I'm like, I knew anyway there
was anyway. I was just curious. So it's like, I
wonder what movie they were watching.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
Well, in real life, we were watching nothing. We were
sitting on the Fox lot in a screening room watching nothing.
But yeah, I remember walking in and then having this moment,
and it was interesting because it was like really the
first time for Ceci and Schmidt, even though it was done,
and the guy of me being like a wingwoman that

(41:03):
Max and I like got to have this like very
like I don't know with everyone around us, this really
intimate emotional moment. And I remember as an actor like
I had had a lot of those opportunities, and I
was like, wow, like it was really fun, like to

(41:24):
sit there and try to sell it like ugh, this
is stupid, I'm doing it for you, but to really
mean it as the character. And of course Max is
so brilliant because the way he reacts without saying one word,
you know, it's what he's just wanted to hear. And
like all the different character couples, I feel like have

(41:45):
these big landing moments, and Schmidt and Cec have it,
and Nick and just have it, and you have it
with Brenda's song, and it was just like, it's really
nice that they still, in this very very big episode
found those moments for everybody to really just like have
a little bit of a breakthrough.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
Oh yeah, oh absolutely, And this this isn't with Satya.
With Satya, it was fun to watch his uh, it
was fun to watch his reaction and how he delivers
his what he thinks is rejection on the date prior
to that, do you having that moment just even you

(42:25):
explaining to him like dude, just relax and just come
if you want, Like it's like you're breaking up with me.
Oh yeah, this random text message you'll get from a friend,
because that with with with with folks. Sometimes that's a
real signal, you know, text me, you know, I'll text
you and let you know the date's not going well.
You text me saying that there's an emergency so I

(42:47):
can harry up and get up out of here.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
Yea.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
And but this time this was real and I and
watching him spile was really funny.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
Yeah, because he's like okay. He goes there and he's like, okay,
it's real. And now she's telling her ex boyfriend she's
met and watching like the fact that they put Cec
in the position where she had to look at Setya,
you know, look at Chivrang and then look at Schmidt,
and she chose Schmidt right, totally disrespect and which is

(43:15):
the loving choice, even more so than the words that
come out right. She's just like fine, like I got you,
and that's really really sweet, which is a bit of
a mirror to what's happening with Nick and Jess too.
Right when she makes the call, he has to like
look at Brooklyn Decker and ah and be like and
chooses Jess. You could have been like, I'm not coming by.
I figured it out, you're grown up, but he didn't.

(43:36):
He shows up. So there's That's just kind of a
little cc nick parallel moment of their.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
Yeah you call some bloods.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
Tell Nick Miller, Nick Miller, Okay, we have to get there,
because I know we're talking about the rest of episode,
because the episode is great and it's wonderful and all
these other things happen, but this episode is about the
the yeah kiss, the kiss. And what I didn't realize
is that I've read so much fan stuff online is
that there was like a gift, a Jeff again.

Speaker 7 (44:10):
Gif g little video they went around on Tumblr and
all the things that were going on in twenty thirteen
of the kiss of him like reaching snap in her
back and that kiss, and.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
A lot of people had not seen New Girl but
saw that kiss and then found out which show it
came from and then started watching the show. That was
like their gateway drug to the show is just this
literally like two second looped video of a kiss, and
they were like, whatever that is, I need to see
it immediately.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
So they saw instant das kiss by that door, and
they thought, whoa, this is a show. I really got
to Oh my god, yeah, we could have had them.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
Blazing so powerful and the zeitgeist of smooth.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
I will say this and then we can get back
to the actual kiss. I was so nervous before I
shot that scene. I was so nervous. I was too nervous.
I just thought because I just think Brenda Song is dope.
And I was like, oh, she's one of the Oh
my god, this is so gosh. They kissing her on camera,
and she was so down to earth, so chilled out,

(45:24):
so cool made it so simple for me, So I
appreciate that from her. She was very professional about it.
I just was like, I don't know what to do here.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
She had to do, Like no acting for this episode
is what you're saying pretty.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Much if you watched it, Yes, the bumbling idiot that
was me off camera trying to be cool, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 1 (45:45):
Yeah, I know that feeling deeply where You're just like,
now I got to act like the thing, but I'm
really feeling the thing, and I don't want them to
know that I'm feeling the thing. So I'm like the
acting is now like weirdly informed exactly I know that feeling.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
If intimacy coaches were then like they would have looked
at me and been like, Okay, hold on, let's talk
for a second. Let's talk you good brow you okay?

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Dog?

Speaker 2 (46:10):
Not okay, not okay?

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Stressed? Okay? Can we also just talk about the one
thing that was said, because this is the part that
was so good is that when they all have to
do is like the kiss so that they can get
out from behind the iron curtain. Just kiss, just kiss,
just kiss. And then they're like, there's like that funny
dance of like awkwardness and like you like tongues or
no and count down, don't count down? Look me in

(46:33):
the eye. Why are you looking at me like that?
And all this like weird stuff. And then finally it's
about to happen, and then he goes not like this, yeah,
not like.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
This, yeah, not that that's a pause.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
And I was like, I mean, this is some like
notebook level writing moments. I mean, this is like a
you know, a comedy, like a twenty two minute like
network comedy, not like this.

Speaker 6 (47:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
And then you're sitting there, this is your first time
seeing the show. You're just sitting there being like if
they try to will they won't this for a whole
other episode, I will pass away, like what do you mean?
Not like this? Like how And then at the end
when he says, I meant something like that.

Speaker 5 (47:23):
Pretty good, so good, pretty good, so good.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
I want to put this to the fans. I want
to put I want to pull this one. Okay, not
like this. That happened in New Girl, in this moment
that we're talking about, but it also happened in the
greatest film of all time, The Matrix. When Switch is
about to get killed, she goes. She looks up as

(47:49):
she realizes this might be her time, but she goes,
not like this. I'm a Matrix fan. If they're Matrix
fans out there, please let me know which one was
more impact.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
Maybe you've never watched The Matrix. We're so sorry that
the Morning's just spoiled one of the best movies. I've
all the time for you.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
If you hadn't watched The Matrix, that's on you. I
got nothing for you. Spoiler alert.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
The one after the so spoiler alert, Oh my gosh,
not like this is so powerful. I don't know. I
just and they did such a good dance up until point,
like when she gets down on her knees and then
pops up and he's like, what are you doing on

(48:35):
the ground and never kiss And it's just like so
many funny moments and then instead it's just like organic
and messy and weird and strange and undernible. Also the
gal the audacity Sam is behind a thin piece of

(48:56):
plywood and that was not a quick kiss. That was
like a kale suck.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
That's crazy to.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
Do that in that moment made me so annoyed with
this couple. It kissed me off so much because I'm like, man,
that dude is right there, y'all. Come on, man, come
on man, and come on man, what happened to bro
code Nick?

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Well, that's why he gets in the next episode, he
gets punched because it was outside of the game, because
you did see also kind of weird, you know, doctor
Sam outside chanting kiss kiss, kiss, kiss kiss.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
Yes, that was weird. Also it was it was mature
of him, But because he knows it's part of the game.
You know, he knows it's Nick who cares, you know
what I mean? But still, once it became like a
real thing outside.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
Of the game, that's like love Island, right. They always
have those rules on Love Island, which is like you
kiss someone in a game.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
Don't say love like Love Island, right, like I'm supposed
to know, like I don't watch this beat.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
Okay, switch, Look, we all have our things that we
like to watch independently.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
I'm just saying the matrix different Love Island. Yeah, the matrix.
The matrix is up here. Love Island is somewhere in the.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
Bowels of gradiate art.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
That's art to you.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
It is Love Island, and that makes me feel something art.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
No disrespect to all the folks.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
Out there on Mad disrespect there artists anyway, but that
is the show that really talks about like something a
kiss happens, or all the things happened in the game.
You were not allowed to get mad about it. And
so I feel like doctor Sam is somehow some weird
respect for that. What I think is just straight up cheating.
It's in the game, it's fine. But the way that

(50:48):
he like, he's they literally just like good night and
like we're hugging each other, and he's like, you're lost.
You didn't kiss her behind the door. She's amazing, and
then like takes her to bed and then they pop out.
She watches a woman dig her coat back, which is
not really the most sexy setup for a woman to
see a man to surrenderous coat to a woman that

(51:13):
he's enjoyed wearing. And then that kiss. Yeah, chef's kiss.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Chef's kiss. It was. It was great televisioned perfect television.
I remember rewatching it saying, this is crazy. This is
an episode that's crazy. It's wild. It's filled with so
many introductions to new characters, moments, relationships. This episode was.
This was in the top top five of New Girl episodes.
I gotta say, you know.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
For sure, and I truly believe it went into like
the guys like that kiss, and it set the standard
and it really just cemented I think how good this
show is and just like punching you in the face
with comedy and heart. When we come back, I will
play the voicemail from our sweet friend Rebecca Adaman, who

(52:03):
wrote this episode, who explains the thinking behind Becky.

Speaker 6 (52:13):
And we are back, not like this, not like this
from the Matrix. Oh my gosh, you girl is great.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
If you had told me that when we broke down
Cooler that our reference points would be the Matrix and
Love Island. I'm so sorry. Okay, so here we go,
Rebecca Adaman, I said to her, I said, I read
the table draft in the production draft and saw that
in the table draft there was no kiss. Nick leaves

(52:47):
with the real trench coat owner Lady Neighbor, so wondering
why was the kiss added so late in the game,
and she said, oh, my gosh, really it is over
a decade ago, right, she said. What I remember is
that we had the idea for the kiss or something
close to a kiss, pretty early on in the story
breaking stage. I don't remember how or why I didn't
make it to the table draft, but thank god it

(53:10):
made into the episode. And then she left me this.

Speaker 8 (53:13):
Hi, Hannah and lamourne Okay, I'm sending you this voice
memo with my very limited recollections of making the episode
cooler Episode two fifteen.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
I know that we wanted there to be a kiss.

Speaker 8 (53:29):
I remember that being very much part of the conversation
as we were, you know, late at night in the
writer's room breaking the story. But there was a lot
of trepidation, fear perhaps of could we do this? Was
this too soon to have Nick and Jess, you know
kiss like this where we where we blow in our load,

(53:51):
jump in the shark, whatever you want to call it.
I don't know why it got taken out of the
table read draft. Those mysteries will remain buried in time.
But I do remember being on set bladish one night
and we were about to shoot that scene. It could
have been one of the last scenes we filmed of
the whole show, actually, and Jake is in a trench
coat and Nick and Jess are going to their different

(54:14):
bedrooms in that hallway scene. And I remember Liz Meriweather
and like the brain Trust, you know, I think Bret
and Dave were there, and we were talking about, like,
how can we make this scene work? Why would they
actually kiss? What's the motivation? And I do remember saying

(54:35):
to Liz, what if you know she basically challenges him,
you know, basically says to him, you would never dare
you couldn't do it. I forget the actual line from
the show. I'm so sorry, I have not watched it recently.
And Liz's eyes kind of lit up and said a challenge, yes,
and she kind of took that idea. And I don't

(54:57):
know how we tweaked the script. I'm not exactly sure, again,
this is all just operating on like a decade of memories.
But we tweaked that scene a little bit based on
that idea, and you know, Zoe Jess kind of gave
gave him a bit of a challenge and then he
just grabbed her and kissed her. And I remember being
on set and literally screaming in Video village because it

(55:22):
was electric and very thrilling, and I think I was
like a litmus test maybe for the New Girl audience
at large, and they kiss worked on me, and the
hope was that it.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Would work on everyone else.

Speaker 8 (55:37):
So that's just kiss related memories from cooler and I
miss you and wish you well.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
Ah yeah I do. I do miss her. I haven't
seen her in a very long time. We got to
get together, We gotta get the family.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
Got to get the families together.

Speaker 4 (55:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
So interesting that that's how they kind of like worked
it out and made it happen. And then those who
were in the room the room where it happened, like, yeah,
I gasped out loud because it was just like in person,
So it's not just like the finesse of an edit.
It was just like just they nailed it.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
I remember not being there and hearing all the buzz
about the kiss when I got back to work the
next day. Much like the time Taylor Swift was on
the show, I remember not being there and then hearing
all the buzz about it the very next day.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
That's why you do this podcast. You're like, could someone
tell me about it? Finally? Could I just like relive
it for a minute.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
What happened? What happened? Kissing stuff? All right? Cool?

Speaker 1 (56:44):
All right, when we're gonna come back, When we're gonna
come back, we are going to do the mess around.
And here is what's going to happen for the mess around.
This is kind of a big deal. There is a
huge rumor that lives online about the kiss, and I
from the Deep dark Web, have a video that talks

(57:07):
about it, and then I have the truth. Come back
and we're gonna do the mess around?

Speaker 2 (57:15):
Done done? What happened?

Speaker 3 (57:18):
What happened?

Speaker 1 (57:22):
Well, all right, we are back and it is time.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
For dumb bump them the mess around around, messing around? Okay,
So what we got, Hannah?

Speaker 1 (57:40):
Okay, So I went down all the rabbit holes on
Cooler and the big question was how many takes do
they need to do? The kiss, and there are all
these chats that are going on where people go like,
well there's an old interview, no one can find it
anymore where Jake Johnson says it took seven or eight takes,

(58:05):
and the reason why is because his what his hands
were doing desert to that they that they had he
had to like, they had to get a take that
they could use for TV. Okay, so just listen, We're
gonna watch the clip, but then I'm going to tell
you the truth. Roll it also, baby Jake, from ten

(58:29):
years ago, how many takes did you you do on
this scene?

Speaker 2 (58:32):
Honestly about eight?

Speaker 6 (58:34):
Eight?

Speaker 2 (58:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (58:35):
What did you do wrong?

Speaker 2 (58:37):
It was what my hands were doing on care Were
you married? I am married?

Speaker 5 (58:41):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (58:42):
And your wife likes you doing those kissing scenes.

Speaker 5 (58:44):
You know.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
All the truth of the matter is my wife is
really happy.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
I have a job.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
So here's the thing. Okay, so funny and you will
know you will back me up on this one hundred percent.
Here's the thing. The person the interviewer asks, right as
a joke, what were you doing wrong? Not understanding that? Look,
no matter what scene you're doing, three four five takes,
no matter what, this was a huge moment on the show.

(59:08):
So they're going to try it like, do it more heated,
do it like pull it back, do it this way,
do it from this angle. We need to get like
the wide we've got to get the close ups. We've
got to do all the stuff. So there's a billion takes.
It happened. But she then picked, you know, throws out
as a joke, what were you doing wrong? And he
responds with a joke. Jo with a joke, right, But

(59:29):
of course that that video was just like on like
in this news moment, right, and then just like the
transcript kind of got pulled and then it got kind
of put out in the New Girl like fandom world
as if that was a fact, right, that they had

(59:50):
to do it eight times because of his hands. So
we're right here on the mess around to let you
know that is not the case whatsoever. That is just
how you shoot a show. So you shoot a kiss,
you get it done. And Jake Johnson was just making
a joke on the Morning show.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
That is the truth for me when I'm doing love
making scenes. Once I lay her body down, we got
one take, and we got one take on because the
chemistry is there and if you've ever seen me in
a love making scene. One of my many films and
television series is I'm always making love. I'm always making love.

(01:00:35):
And in those movies and those scenes, have you seen
Monster's Ball, Well, they really go for it. That's kind
of how I am. Me and my scene partner, we really.

Speaker 5 (01:00:43):
Go for it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
And I think that's how on a hot day.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
It's actually rather hard to get like no pun intended
to get aroused in a scene while you're filming. It's
so technical, it's so like mechanical that people think that
it's like this real aggressive thing. It's not. It's not.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
You have a thousand people around you, you're on a
time crunch, You've got so many things that are happening.
It was a huge moment in the show. We're all
team show. What can make it the best show, what
sells it the most, what's too much? We always play
different levels because in the edit they got to figure
it out. And that's just the reality of it. And
all comes from a place of I was loving and
wanting to do the best that we can do. But yeah,
you're shut up by a million people. You might be

(01:01:24):
shooting at at like six in the morning. We haven't
even woken up and had coffee yet, right, So it's
a it's anyway. It's really funny because I saw that
thread kind of go around and I was like what,
And then I found that clip and I was like, Oh,
he's just being funny. Yeah. Speaking of people standing around

(01:01:46):
though and watching you do all of these scenes, and
those people that are standing around you for a million
years who become your family, I just want to take
a moment to talk. I'm going to try to talk
about sweet Curtis Bradford, you as a gaffer on New
Girl for the entire time and one of the most beloved, sweet,
wonderful humans. And he passed away this week and we

(01:02:09):
just want to send his family so much love and
support and we all love noticed.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
So much, so much love. I Uh, that man was
great to me. Yeah, when I when I directed an episode,
I remember him and Russ r DP were so hands
on with me and so like helpful and kind and generous.
And I mean I'm talking we'd go out of their

(01:02:34):
way to like pull me aside and like give me
tips and notes and thoughts and you know it. Man,
just just when I heard he passed, it was so
weird and so just like it was a it was
a It was a punch to the gut for sure,
and he will he will very much so be missed.
That man was wonderful.

Speaker 6 (01:02:56):
So R I P.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
Curtis Curtis, all right, you guys, great episode, great, great
episode to relive for all of us, reminded of so
many wonderful things. We will be back on Thursday with
a loft meeting where we will talk about so many

(01:03:18):
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Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
Yes, indeed, much love that was the mess Around. This
has been an iHeartMedia production. Our Executive producer is Joel Monique,
Our engineer and editor is Mia Taylor. Additional production from
Daniel Goodman, Wendy Heisler, and Kyle Shevron. Our theme song
was written and composed by Ronald Jukebox Jackson. So We're

(01:04:22):
gonna catch you next time. Bye,