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April 17, 2025 44 mins

Satya, otherwise known as Shivrang, joins Hannah while Lamorne is out on assignment. Together they reminisce about helping their friends juge up their hookup dating profiles, that time Hannah read a scene with Robert De Niro. Plus, what's the best way to make a speedy exit.

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Speaker 1 (00:17):
Hello, Hi, Welcome to the podcast. We have one of
my favorite human beings of all time and one of
the most critical players in the New Girl universe.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
And a magician.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
I need to know moon walk out of this because
we've learned that that's like mister a Hello, Hello, mess
around verse Chavrang Chavron still can't.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Do it, honey, nobody knows at this point. When they
reboot the series, they'll figure it out.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
So you just went to Coachella. I did not.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yes, I just got back from my first ever Coachella
Grandpa's hanging with the kids, and it was super fun.
I had the best time. Like it's like a it's
like you know, like I think of like the word
festival as a vib It's like to a festival and
just like festivaling is really fun. It's like a fun
fair for grown ups. You kind of have a plan.

(01:19):
You also kind of don't care about the plan. You're
just sort of mosying about. You know. It's good that
we're talking about this before an episode that has to
do with marijuana. But it's definitely was a good weekend.
How am I doing? Am I still puffy? Am I
coming back to life?

Speaker 1 (01:36):
You know? It's so funny if you want to know, Like,
first of all, festivaling is my night time. Maare It's
not fun.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
For me, not fun for me. Me know so many.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
People, it's like Dusty. Everybody's like it's like such a
nightmare for me. The only time I went to Coachella.
There may be at another time that I don't remember,
but there was one time that I do remember going
to Coachella. The only reason I went was to see
somebody perform that I was like, I will never miss
this person performing if I can. And do you know
who that person was?

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Who was?

Speaker 1 (02:09):
If you want to know who was it?

Speaker 2 (02:11):
I want to know the real you know, you want to.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Know who I am? Hollowie Uh Leonard Cohen?

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Wow? Could I be in love with you more? Apparently
I can't. Apparently, Yes, that was it.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
I was like, no Coachella, I'm so introverted. I'm a housecat.
The idea of like a ton of people and all
close like not my jam at all. And then I
saw Leonard Cohen and I cried. I was in LA
and I got in my car and I drove and
it was like five hours because of Coachella traffic, and
got there just as he got on stage and I
stood there and it was like I was at church,

(02:45):
and then he performed and it was done. I got
in my car and drove home.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Well, you know what, you know what, it's all about
taking what you need from the experience. I mean, really,
I feel like the people are like, I'm going to
see everything. I'm going to be there from the moment
the gates open till the end of the day. No,
it's all about being like, eh, do I want to
go in early today? Should I wait a little bit
and go in later? You know, it was a great weekend.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Have you been to a burning Man?

Speaker 2 (03:07):
No, I haven't been to a burning A little dry
what I'm saying so dusty. Yeah, you will say, like
Coachella in the like fake fantasy that is like that
area of America. It's like it's on a polo field,
so it's like all grass. It's like you're like out
on the lawn the whole time, which obviously makes.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
No sense where Coachella is a dust.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
I don't know. It wasn't super dusty when I was
there this last weekend, but it was definitely like on
this grassy thing. But burning Man, I mean I think
I could do it. I would like to do it,
but I haven't. I just had this.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
I'm thinking about the poor listeners of this show who
were like, oh man, it's like so they could really
tell us about Coachella, and it's just Princess Hannah being
just like it's so dusty exactly.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
You'll be like, stop talking about it. It's stressing me out.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Where's the septagenarians performing the Okay, all right, we are
getting into a great episode, one that I totally forgot
about until I rewatched it, which is kind of fitting
for what the episode is about, Dice. It was written
by my beloveds Matt Fussfeld and Alex Cuthbertson. I actually

(04:16):
they did a pilot for me based on my family.
That's who wrote it, Matt and Alex. Alex is now
what a love story? Married to Liz Merriweather.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Wait can you do it?

Speaker 1 (04:33):
And every time Satia is but making heart hands, hearts
just explode out of him and so and it's directed
by the wonderful and dearly missed Lynn Shelton. We love
her very much. So I'm going to just do the
quick rundown and we are going to dive in so
it is episode four oh two Dice. In this episode,

(04:54):
Jess Begschmidt to teach her the ways of online dating,
specifically app dice. This leads to a bundle of dates
with all different types of men, ending with the worst
kind a comedy magician. Meanwhile, Winston is trying to make
a good impression with his fellow cop buddy, so he
decides to bring a very high coach Nick and Cec

(05:17):
with him to a cop party. Bold move m yeah, stressful, stressful.
Oh my goodness. Have you ever been on the dating apps?

Speaker 2 (05:29):
I have been on the meeting people apps, Hannah. You know,
uskays do things a little differently. We sort of dating reverse.
We started the end and then we woke backwards to
the beginning. If you get to dinner, then you've done
really good.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
But this episode rewatching it, I was kind of like, oh,
it felt like the beginning of Like it felt like
early like she was talking about online dating, like send
them like you got mail right and then and it
just reminds me of how quickly this is all change,
because no, like I never really like dated dated online

(06:05):
at all.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Actually, like, you know, I've like met people on apps,
but like more kind of you know, hookupy mess around
things if I may, but uh no, it's like that
all kind of was kicking off around then. And have
you did you ever go on the dating apps?

Speaker 1 (06:20):
I've never me. Hello, this is Leonard cohen La.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
I have never not only having pigeons like like dating telegrams.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
On apps, like I've gone on like the spcies like
about a cat. But I know I've never And what's
even crazier is I've never like like been on the app.
I will say I had a friend, a mutual friend actually,
who was like nobody's matching with me, okay, and she's

(06:52):
like beautiful, smart, talented, And then she showed me her
profile and what she had written, and I was like, oh,
baby girl, what you know about men? You cannot say
all these things. It was so like earnest and so
like dreamy written, and it was just like it was

(07:13):
so heavy and like and then the connecting of our
souls and whatever, and I was like, no, also, like
stop all these pictures of your parents?

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah, no, absolutely, Okay, good, I've definitely yeah, I've never
been on the dating ass but I've definitely done the
profile cleanup for a few friends. Yeah, and just like,
just give me your phone. This isn't working. You don't
know who you are. You don't know you don't know
who you are, Like, let me tell the world the
worst part of you so they'll love you.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Right, that's right, we got it. We got to just
get here on like on the one dimensional meeting first
and then you get there, you charm them, they'll fall
in love with you. It'll be great.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
It's the same thing you're like like buy Amazon stuff
on you, like like buying clothes on the app, like
you don't want to like the backstory, like you just
wouldn't need the Yeah, it's that's very true.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Okay, let's dive into this episode. So basically, and this
I do believe is true. Basically, Schmidt and Jess are
built so differently with their approaches to love that this
app is not for her, This is just a hookup app,
but she really wants to be on it. So he says,

(08:35):
do not get on this app. It's not meant for you.
So she immediately gets on the app. And it was
hard for my brain, who's never really gone on like
date dates, to imagine that that guy who's on the
treadmill with the Beard. Yeah, that that's real.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
It's a show that one night the most real. Although,
you know, the amazing thing about this episode is that
she goes on dates with like like half of the
dates are really good friends of Liz and mine from college, right,
because it's like Matteo Borghese, John Phillips, like these are old.
Liz and I were in this comedy group called the
Fifth Humor at college and these were all due to

(09:20):
we were in the comedy group with and so it
was so fun watching this episode. I was like, Oh, Matteo,
he's an amazing writer, as is John. They've both written
like amazing and big things. And I was like, oh,
it's so nice to see these guys, but they would
be terrible to god days with death, I.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Feel like I saw it's a very like infamous, almost
like urban legendy thing. I saw the original pitch pages
for a New Girl mm hmmm, when she was like
just shopping the idea around. Later in our friendship, when
I was trying to develop a show with her now
husband and Matt, I was like, what did that look like?

(09:56):
You created a hit show? What did that pitch page
look like? And I think she mentioned she does right.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
She's definite. She mentions Matteo, Jeff Yeah, and who else
she mentions maybe John Yeah, she mentions like three of
our friends from college who I'm still in touch with,
and I know she is as well.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yeah. John Phillips, I forgot was in this episode also
was a very dear friend of mine. And he him
showing up made me laugh because I remember John wrote
a movie called Dirty Grandpa.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
He definitely did yes with Demiro. Aubrey Plaza like hits
on DeNiro, that's right. So I remember Aubrey was telling
me about shooting that movie and she was doing all
of like her gross, weird, crazy out that comedy stuff,
and she was just like de Niro would just give
her these looks like who are you? Said. By the
end of the shoot they got along really well, but

(10:46):
at the beginning he was like, what is this? What
am I doing? Which I totally believe.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah, I believe that too. It's so funny because they
did a you know, like when they're trying to get
a movie up and going, they all just invite friends
to come and read it out loud so they can
hear it. And they had de Niro and DeNiro wanted
to do that read just like the for Fun Friends read,
and John asked me to come and read what ended

(11:12):
up being Aubrey's role. Oh my god, Oh cool.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Right.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
So I was at CIA, I feel like and I
was like, in my brain, I was just like, I'm
about to go and sit next to Robert Denia.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Yeah, amazing.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
And I was sweating because there's a line in that
movie Dirty Grandpa where the character, this Aubrey character, looks
at de Niro and goes, I want to thunderfuck you.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yeah, yeah, I remember that, do you under.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
I nearly died. I was like, this is my encounter
with one of the greatest actors of our generation. I'm
going to meet him for the first time and I
have to look at him and say I want a
thunder fuck you. It was so difficult that y'a am
to make a worse. One of his kids was in
the room.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Oh my god, Oh my god, wow, and I just it's.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Like burned in my brain. So John Phillips comes into
this and he's the guy that sits at the bar
with her, and it's talking about raisins Austrian raisins.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Raisins from Austria. I'm sure someone did a google. It
makes me feel like raisins are grown in Austria, which
I obviously that just grapes, but I didn't know that
there was some kind of like a significant raisin story
in Austria.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
I feel like I was. I was looking it up
last night and there was Liz at an interview about
this episode, and she was talking about how John at
the time was dating a girl from Austria and improved it,
which is also the talent of John Phillips. He's like
such a great writer and he's such a great improv

(12:53):
and funny guy, and so that was.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Just like a bit that he pulled so funny.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Yeah, John, Yeah, terrible dates.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
A series of terrible dates, a.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Series of terrible dates that they go on with all
these familiar faces, and so he uh, he's doing this
to kind of gear her up for the guy that
she's not ready for yet and she needs to learn
the outs, which made me think, have you ever been

(13:26):
in a situation where you're like, I needed an out?
And then what did you say?

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Or do I have? And I'll say, like, I mean,
the outs are so funny in this episode, Like I
love that and and and you know, Zoe just nails
it every time these like I have to go help
my dying uncle, They're just great. Uh, I've had to

(13:52):
do it. I've texted friends to call me mm hmm.
I've been like, can you call me right now? And
then because like I think, like you cannot fake a
ringing phone like that, like like the idea that you
can just be like oh oh oh, it's like no, no,
everybody knows what I feels like. But I've definitely texted
friends like call me in fifteen and then be like

(14:13):
I'm so sorry. I have like I have an emergency.
I have to leave, but you know, I don't know.
I also am kind of like a like I like
the adventure, like I'll stick through it. I mean, I'm
not going to stick through it all the way, but
like I like I'll be like, what's going on? Is
there something to get out of this person? But definitely
there's that like crux moment sometimes when someone's like should
we get another round and you're like no, no, no, no,

(14:37):
like how do how do we get out of this?
In fact, it's like check one more like it happens
at the same time. But have you have you.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
Had definitely situations. Yeah, where I've had to like, well, Mike,
my thing that I've discussed many times just the more
and is in my view of my life. I've never
really been on a date like I've met people, we've
become friends, it progresses. I'm like a very slow kind

(15:05):
of like burned situation, and then it's all emotional first.
It's like it's it's maybe most people's like there, but
that's like how I work. It's like slow that. So
I've never liked someone's been like We're going to go
on a date and I'm just like, whoa. I don't like,
like I'll kick it with like a bunch of people,
but yeah, yeah, I need to like anyway feel comfortable.
So but I've definitely been in situations and this is

(15:27):
where everybody kind of like gets upset with me where
I am on a date but I don't know that
it's a date, you see what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
This is where scary.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
It's very scary because the guy is very like you know,
being romantic or whatever at the end of the evening
and I'm just like, what are that about, Bud, Like
I thought we were just like kicking it, like yeah,
you know, bro.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Well, I mean it's kind of like the whole you know,
kind of like what the whole show's about, Like what
is that line? Like can dudes and girls be friends?
Or does it always end up sliding in that direction?
And how do you know kind of one or the other?
That is a scary moment.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Yeah, because I guess there's also this thing of like
people being very scared to like not wanting to be
friend zoned, so they need to like make their intention
clear first.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
And that's why I believe in the friend zone. Is
it like a binary like this person gets like how
and how quick does it happen? Like how quickly are
you is someone just categorically a friend?

Speaker 1 (16:31):
I feel like everybody's got a different a different way
that they work. For me, it's pretty quick. Well I'll
know like oh there could be something here or no,
like theyre no is you know.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
I know, I always like I am not single anymore,
but like when I was, I'd always like like I
always felt like, look, if I'm not like mildly obsessed
with you within ten seconds, it's just not going to happen.
And then I'd always be like dude, like come on,
and you're really gonna just write them off that quickly
and my brain would be like yes, and I'd be

(17:04):
like no. But it is really hard to convince yourself
or to change that it's happened. But it's really rare.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
I feel like really rare. Like you need I saw
Jayshetti was talking about like the different kinds of loves
and it was sort of like there's the firework, there's
the candle, there's the mirror. You talked about that, and
I feel like those are like truth in terms of connection,
Like you need that whatever that thing is, that spark
thing to connect you, and you need that growth, you

(17:32):
need that challenge, you need all of that stuff to
have like a deeper connection.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
It's also like the thing that like counterweys the terrifying
nature of being vulnerable, like like to get that vulnerable
you need to be like, but the prize is amazing,
Like I'm so excited about the thing that I'm gonna
like sacrifice the safety and security right right.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
It's the risk of it and the falling of it.
You know, you need to be able to fall if
your full control of it. That ain't ye person. I
have to say that one of the funniest moments that
caught me off guard when I was rewatching last night.
Is Schmidt running up and going.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
The besa back, Mama said, the Beza back, diving into
this ridiculous little accent. It's so great, it's funny.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
So many people emailed about this episode, and I guess
people are dating, people are out in the streets and
they're meeting people and they're having a good time. And
this is a highly quoted episode for people who are
in that world because of the hysterical exit lines that
Schmidt gives and then the panicked one of mah the beezer.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
That's so funny. Yeah, Like I could see that going
on the like group text like it was a Beza
back situation, you know, it's like Bmoji.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
It's like, yeah, it's so funny. Okay. Also, let's just
talk about Winston for a second, because this is situation
is so funny to me too, that he's never had
a nickname and he doesn't feel like he's in with
everybody and he's not part of the friend group. And
I was like, is having like a nickname like a

(19:14):
symbolic of I don't know, the deeper friendship. It sounds
like razzing to me.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
You're gonna need to get a straight man to tell
you that. I don't know. I think it's like a
straight dude thing because they were all called like Dave
and Mike and so they have to like so it's true. Yeah,
they will have the same names, so they're like, you know,
but it's also there's also that like lost name thing
when people are like, you know, Soap Smith, Soap Davis,

(19:40):
like it's like very like Sportsy. I guess, I don't know.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
I don't know either. I will tell you this. It's
for me. I have no nickname. My name is Hannah.
That's it. That's my name. I can immediately tell because
you know, you meet a lot of people then you
you know, see people years later. You don't always remember them.
But I can immediately tell if this is a person
that is like I do know in his friend of mine,

(20:08):
or they're trying to posture to other people like we're
good friends because they'll call me Hann Okay, that's that
like hand or Hanni hand you've even seen you, and
I'm just like, we don't know each other.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
You don't know me. I haven't seen me because we've
never you.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Don't know me. Yeah, there's no world where you and
I are friends. What are you doing and who are
you doing it for?

Speaker 2 (20:34):
It's true. It's like the assumed nickname, the like assumed
familiarity is real annoying. Really yeah, yeah, I totally agree. No,
I don't really, but you know, Winston's just desperate for
a little community, and I know that's if that's what's
going to give it to him being called toilet, then

(20:54):
God bless it.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Care for what you wish for, man, care for what
you wish for. I do like the advice where they're like,
just show up, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Just go just gives some good advice, like go hang
out with the people. If you want to make friends,
go hang out with the people. Have you ever asked
them for a hang which I think is totally right,
and people often don't do that. They're like, they don't
want to talk to me, and then I'm like, well
did you ever talk to them? And They're like no.
It's like, well, I guess they feel like you don't
want to talk to them as well.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
So they picked me. Energy is like not the vibe,
it's not totally so unfortunately though, for Winston Damon, coach
Winston or coach Nick sorry, and cc all decide to imvibe.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Yeah, they they want they eat brownies. Yea. She bakes
some weed brownies, yeah, which is like such an endearingly
like unemployed kind of like borderline unemployed way of ingesting
weed because you're like, I really want to get high,
and then it's like first step, melt the butter. You're like,
you have.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
Time, You're getting a recipe.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah, exactly, Like you're gonna go buy flower to get high,
all right, all right, like you're definitely this is.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
A I do love that kind of stuff about TV
where it just like shows up and you're just like,
hold up, this is this is so much sober time.
So you have to make the choice so many times
totally to do the thing. I will say this has
also been very loudly discussed in the New Girl universe
that Jake Johnson is so wonderful at playing Altered States. Yeah,

(22:38):
he could do a whole show just like that, and
it would be my favorite thing in the world.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Well, it's so I was you were looking at that
and it's like Hannah's playing Stone, Yeah, Damon's playing Stone. Yeah,
Jake really knows what it's like being stuff. Like I
remember chatting to Jake when we were shooting the show
about smoking weed, and he was like, yeah, man, like
cause and I'm sure you've talked about this on the

(23:04):
show a ton about how they used to throw us alts,
Like they throw like old joke lines in and so
they'll throw a line, you have to memorize it, you
have to say it all the time. And I remember
Jake just basically being like, I can't smoke weed anymore
because it's too stressful with the alts. Like when they
start throwing the alts, it just they go in and
out in a second, And like, I just have to
have like one thousand percent brain capacity at all times

(23:26):
of the day so that I can do that one
hour perfectly. And I was like, that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yeah. There was an actor on our show who came
and guessed it for a while, and they were asked
in an interview. I'm trying to remember who it was.
They're like, what's it like acting on New Girl? And
they're like, it's like trying to act while being heckled,
Like just like the level of the Alts that were
kind of coming from Video Village and it was we
were used to it, we kind of didn't know different.
But for other people it was like, WHOA, I've never

(23:52):
been on a show that's like work for someone's going
to shout a monologue at you and you just have
to like like be able to do it perfectly. Yeah,
it's very difficult for anyone who has like a process. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
our show is different that way. Jake, though, playing this
altered state had me laughing. And it wasn't even the
way he was delivering the lines. It was when he

(24:14):
wasn't speaking, because he does this like like just the
very like always thinking, like the mind hasn't stopped. He's
just like, okay, let's go.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Yeah. What I love about this is that it's like
I feel like everybody talks about like, oh, when I'm stone,
I get paranoid or like we paranoia, but they do clock.
They do sort of like name check the main paranoia,
which is everyone else is going to think I'm high,
Like I feel like I.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Love to go to the party exactly what.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
I learned in my life, like nobody knows how high,
Like now the guy at the bodega doesn't know that
you're high, Like nobody's thinking about whether or not you're high.
They're just like, what do you want? Like, And when
I real that, I feel like is when I was like, oh,
I can be stoned in public and it's fine. But
before that, I was like, they're all thinking about me.
But it's a good lesson for life. It's not about you.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
It's not about you. Yeah, this is a dark turn
on that, but I'll share it. We were I finally
went on like a little getaway and we were driving
down the pch and I was like, oh my god,
I have a break. This is so wonderful, you know,

(25:30):
not working, and just like my first getaway in a
long time. And just as we were pulling into like
Laguna Beach. I'd never been to Laguna Beach, I was like, Oh,
this is gonna be so great. I look out the windows.
I was like, welcome to Laguna Beach. And then there
is a man lying on his back with a crumpled
bicycle next to him, and a guy runs out of

(25:54):
like the emergency vehicle, gets on his chest and is
giving him I know, Oh my gosh. It was an
older guy that was like on the ground, and I
like immediately like crying like turn and look, and my
partner looks at me and goes, it's not about you.
This is not about you. Right now, they were just

(26:16):
about to watch the whole Getaway derail. I'm crying as
we're just about to start, and was like, this is
not about you. Because I was like, what does this mean.
I was like, we just went to go have a
getaway and there's a dead man on the side of
the road, and was not about you.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
This is you know, in these times, there is a
healthy degree of compartmentalization that is needed, like, you know,
like we can't let it all go inside because if
it does, we'll just break. But that's what you know,
that's why your partner sounds like a really good partner
for you.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
I'm not that dead man.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Ignore the dead old man, Hannah. We're have the fun.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
It's terrible. Well, I guess that's kind of what Winston
goes through because he brings his friends to basically have
his back, make him look funny, make him look cool,
and they're all just like tweaking. They don't they don't
know what's going on. They can't show up for him.
I do remember there was so much conversation about this
episode because you cannot show on network TV somebody using

(27:18):
drugs and enjoying it.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Oh interesting, So can you show someone high they in
taking it.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
You can't show them in taking it in. You can't
show them as far as I understand, and you can't
show them like enjoying it really and then it has
to end, which is why they had to have Damon
clearly say I'm never doing drugs again.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
I feel that was a bit of an overreaction.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
I was like, never, that's just legal, that's legal. There
was a call from the office being like he has
to say this clearly, not in a big group thing.
It's got to be this single shot. He's got to
say it really clearly, because you can't sit there and
be like, go smoke weed and hang out with cops
and it's a fun time and it all work out
for you.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
I wonder if you're in a post legalization universe that
is the same for weed. Interesting now because people, I
mean people, would you know. I love how like the
alcohol lobby has won so hard and like forever people
are like, it's so fun being drunk, but then legal
is like you cannot say weed is fun. It's yea
interesting okay. Yeah, so I remember it was like a

(28:24):
stressful party to be clear, like surrounded.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
By cops, locked in a closet. The whole thing is
so weird. Yeah, they're also like they they I know,
they were trying to make it all like like casual,
like a backyard cop hang, but it felt scary watching it.
I was just like I would not feel comfortable soon
calleds over in that room.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
No me neitherough me, I agree, I agree. I was like, again,
this is nicknamed bros. These are not my bros. Like
I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
It also ended just mean when they were just like
and you're the toilet, and I was like, oh man,
these aren't like your friends when just know, like yeah,
just go up to your job and leave. These are
not the nice guys, all right. So we go back
to then the dating situation. She's kind of learned and
she wins the reward of her final date. She thinks

(29:17):
she sees a red flag our jess, and she calls
them on it and.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Is wrong. Yeah, I mean, she thinks that's a red flag,
like if someone's like, oh, come to this bar and
then they're like, I live actually just right around the corner.
Is that a little like iron it is for girls,
it's a massive. It's cheesy.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
It's a cheesy thing. It's a massive for a girl.
It's potentially scary because you don't know who that man is. Like,
my rules for my girlfriends when they go on dates is,
first of all, no food. There will be no food
consumed on your first meeting. No, just because if you
need to get out of there. It's like hard if
you're waiting on food. And it's a whole thing. And yes,
it extends it. We're meeting for coffee, We're meeting in

(29:59):
the middle of the day, not going to be near
like where your house is or something like that. There's
going to have somebody who knows where you are the
whole time. You Mom, I'm like, listen, there are so
many rules for your date.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
I like it. You're on there like rewriting that dating apps,
planning that dates for them. This is side business. You're
basically like.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
And I'm zero experience in it.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
You've never been on a date, and I've.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Never been on a date. But let me tell you
how it's going to go down for you. So she
does all of that and then she regrets it. And
feels bad. She does a big apology, gets him back,
and then he's the worst and.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Her cheesy real cheesy, really funny, really really funny.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Yeah, you know what, it was amazing. I was like,
that's a very talented actor because you buy it from
the beginning that he's gorgeous, sexy, smoldering cool, and then
to be able to turn immediately into a full ick
for the audience, that's not easy.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
He did it so good. No, I totally agree, and
I just want to say out loud, magicians are amazing.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Amazing.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
Comedians are a little less amazing, but that's still amazing.
Magician comedians, I guess could be cool. It's more like,
don't bring your work to the day, do you know
what I mean? He's like doing a bit the whole time,
and it's that energy that I feel is like so
eg like, I don't mind, you know, a little hat
out of a rabbit every now and then. Sure it's

(31:26):
saved for the bedroom.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
You know, I don't even know what a hat out
of a rabbit is. Don't answer that, nobody think about
what I had out of a rabbit.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
Don't go into Urban dictionary and google pulling your hat
out of a rabbit. Well that was the episode. I
think it was such a great fun when it Definitely
it's funny. A lot of people were they right about
this episode, were like, this is good a timestamp new Girl,
but I think it like actually plays well. I think
people are on these apps. It's actually only and there's

(31:58):
been so many success stories now for it that it
actually wasn't like a weird flash in the panway of dating.
It's stuck around and a New Girl called that one.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Right, they definitely did. I've had friends get married from
a grinder hook up. I've had friends get married from
a tap I mean, which is a or a poke.
There used to be a thing on Facebook where you
could poke someone. Oh yeah, and it was just like
a little like ping, like hig. I've had people get
married off of a Facebook poke. So it's a real
thing for sure.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Yeah, yeah, definitely. I know so many people where you're like,
how did you meet? And before I remember it used
to be like this thing.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Like they'd lie about it. Yeah, they'd be like we
have to.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
Come up with it, yeah, story, and now it's so normal,
totally shout out to the apps. Then the name dice though,
does crack me up because it's a terrible name for
an app.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
It's good. There's like, there's like so many, there's so many.
I'm sure talk about alts. I'm sure they pitched a
million ideas for like what the like dumb dating app
name is? But Dice is a great one.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Oh the picture also, isn't that picture they show right
in the beginning of like the Most Handsome Guy? That's
Berkeley Johnson? I think there was a picture of Berkeley
with like the blonde hair, who's like gorgeous and the
jaw and everything, And I feel like that picture initially
they showed was one of the writers of New Girl,
wrote many episodes, one of the funniest guys, was known

(33:19):
for always picking the best names for like characters that
would come on the show. He just had that knack.
But was like gorgeous. So many New Girl writers were
like gorgeous and funny. They had it all. We're gonna
take a quick break and we're gonna come back. We
are going to mess them. Okay, we are back. Okay,

(33:49):
So we have a couple of things to mess around
with and chat through. What is the worst first date
that you've gone on?

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Well, as I say, uskays do things a little bit backwards.
So I've definitely, uh, I've definitely met someone in and
maybe slightly more intimate scenario, and then soon thereafter been like,
oh my god, like there might be a part of
you that I can get down with, but like not you.

(34:19):
But I also remember once I went on a date
and this guy was just basically telling me that I
didn't He was like, I don't think that you really
uh that into me. I don't think that you like
me enough, Like I know what it's like when people
are really into me, and no, you're not giving me.
I was just like, bro, I just met you, Like,
give me a second. And so it just kind of

(34:39):
left me feeling like both like you're right, actually I
don't like you very much now and also like guilty
about it. I was like, don't yell at me for
not liking you before I even know if I like you.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Sure, yeah, well that's a bit of a weird thing
were to manifest that, BROD, there you go. I will
tell you when I found my self on a date again,
didn't know it was a date. I thought I was
like meeting this like fun person and we were friends
of friends and they were like, hey, you want to
go get dinner. I assumed other people would be there.
They were not, and we were sitting there at a

(35:12):
sushi restaurant and it was again, it's so quick how
you realize, like, oh, even as a friend, you are
not going to be my person. They were a sushi
restaurant and I ordered at a Mammy and he was like, oh, like,
you don't like what is it. You're obviously like not
educated on Monte Santo and soy, so you've just lost

(35:33):
a point. And then he said I'm going to order
like these oyster shooters or whatever these shots and he's
and I said, oh, like I don't. I don't like
oysters and he said it'll get you two.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Points, deranged, excuse me. I'm not here to be raided.
Like what was that?

Speaker 1 (35:58):
And then it was so crazy. At the end of
the night, he's like, I'll give you a ride home.
I have to call my driver and I was like,
why do you have a driver and he's like, oh,
cause I got a dui and so I can't legally
and it was all the stuff from this episode, like
how a dui?

Speaker 2 (36:13):
This was like red flags, like a whole parade, like
no way.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
It was so crazy. He told me, like, how is
like Daddy Bottom. He always wanted to have like two
passports because he just feels like it's cool to just
be like I have dual citizenship, and I guess you
could buy citizenship and Panama or something. And he was like,
so if you're like a good girl, like you could
get a pit And I was like, I have looked

(36:39):
like from working at the u N. And I'm sitting
with this first of all, like I'm not even on
a date with you. I don't even know how this
situation happened. And it was so crazy. He dropped me
off and I got out of the car. I just
closed the door and went in the house, bye bye.
And then he kept texting me, I remember, for whatever
weeks weeks afterwards, and I was like I'm sick, I'm sorry,
I'm sick, I can't whatever, And then you would leave me.

(37:01):
They get well baskets on my outside my apartment. Yes,
that was a terrible date, but that's all on him.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
Like yeah, points, we don't do.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
Points, no thank you points.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
That's crazy, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
I was like, do you hear yourself?

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Yeah? Oh man, sorry, Surrey the Insecure. I'm sorry to
that man. Just let's just say, as our Lord and
savior Kiki once mentioned, I'm sorry to that man.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Okay, what piece of advice would you give someone going
on a dating app? But y'all just heard mine. I
have a lot. I have a lot of rules if
you're going on these apps and meeting someone, and if
any of your friends met their significant others on a
dating app. Yes, we were just talking about this.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Yes, absolutely, so many, Yes, so many people meet that
significant others on dating apps. I mean I feel like,
you know, connection is hard, and at the end of
the day, like really obviously within the bounds of safety
Cole Hannah, she'll tell you how to do it right,
But like just getting in front of people in the
real world, you never know, you know. It's like there's

(38:09):
so many people who, like, maybe on paper or maybe
a photo I might not find attractive, but then you
just like something sparks and you're like, this is amazing.
And so I feel like my advice would be like,
don't read too much into it, don't be like analyzing
their copy and like their little like about you section.
Just be like, Okay, this person seems fun, let's grab

(38:29):
a coffee. Of course, you know, there's only so much
time in the day, but I do feel like, at
the end of the day, I've had so many friends
get stuck in these like months long chat scenarios with
someone on Hinge or Tinder. I'm like, who has the time?
Like you could meet this person and just be like
from the first second, actually it's not a thing.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
That's great. Advice is just like to get offline, get
off your device, and actually meet the person. You will
know it's.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
There to connect you with people in real life, not
to connect you with people online for an online boyfriend, right.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
Not AOL chat broke from back in.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
The day exactly.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
I also feel like if you're dating someone and it's
kind of like a bit murky for you and you're
not sure. This is terrible for me to say out loud,
but is this the truth is that if you haven't
met their friends yet, and they really want you to
meet their friends, but you're kind of like one foot
at the door meet their friends because sometimes they have
cute friends.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
I just want to say wow. I just want wow.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
I like it, like we're saying to get off the
device and meet people. This person that you kind of
are into might have like a super hot single friendly
friends and now you're already out in the world and
you're kind of connected. They're kind of half vetted for
you too. It's not like a total stranger, and so
like just meet the friends totally.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
I mean the amount of people who like will segue
from like a flirtation to a friend and then their
friend can become a date. It's totally.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
This is what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
You know, it's like we you all like having cool
people around us. So if you just go out there
and make people interested in you, like, who knows what
can come.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
That's what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Yeah, one hundred.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
So the last one is what's the funniest I was
stoned story you've heard?

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Well, let's see. I mean, I definitely know it's kind
of not it's actually not funny, but it's hilarious as
many things are, which is that some friends of mine
bake this huge tray of pot brownies and they like
leave them in their thing, like in their kitchen, like
cover it in suran wrap whatever. They go out and

(40:35):
their cleaning lady comes over and they're like out my
friends at work and she gets this call from her
neighbor that's like the police are at your house, and
she's like what and that, and her neighbor's like real
timing it, It's like, yeah, the police are there. An
ambulance has just pulled up. She freaks out. She goes
home and basically it turns out that her cleaning lady

(40:57):
had eaten like four brownies are regular brownies, and got
so stoned that she thought she was having like a
psychotic break and ended up like freaked out, calling the police,
calling the ambulance. She was totally fine, but it was like, oh, yeah,
you need to label that. You need to label like
if it's brownies, like anyone's gonna steal a little brownie.

(41:18):
Although like if you have someone at work who's like
always stealing your food out of the fridge, that could
be a fun little move brownie in there. Exactly.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
It's the lesson for you. That's so funny because that's
similar to the story I have. I had this boyfriend
and he was very it was a little more into
me than I was to him, and he was going
to meet my friends and we were going over to
a friends place. They lived in Marina del Rey, and
he really, of course, I think he could sense the

(41:48):
imbalance and really wanted my friends to like love him
right rude for him, okay, And we went over for
dinner and she had some like Snap's out and there
was a bowl of popcorn in the kitchen, and I guess,
you know, he's nervous energy. He was going in the

(42:08):
kitchen to help like set up the table or whatever
for them, was just eating handfuls of this popcorn. And
it turns out it was like laced popcorn that she
had had for herself. I've never heard of red popcorn,
and she I guess had it for herself that she
was snacking on before. She's just like, you know, she
lives on that level, and so she's chill. It was
like there's nothing for her. But he do nothing. He

(42:31):
barely drank.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
Guy, poor guy, So all of a.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
Sudden at dinner, his legs are shaking and his hands
he's like sweaty, and he's like stumbling on his words,
and and she looks at him and she goes the
popcorn in the kitchen and she's like, I ate the
bowl and then she goes, Okay, that's just like.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
And for him then it went to like mock eleven, right,
because now you're high and you've just been told you're
high and you didn't.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
And everybody that you're trying to impress knows this time,
they really know you're high.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
So he then is like I have to and I
was like, I'm so sorry, we have to leave, Like
he's not comfortable. This is also a whack that you
didn't like say something. And so I get him in
the car and he has a car that I don't
know how to drive, but he's clearly yeah drive. And
it was the most comical thing of this man who
did everything right and then was in the most vulnerable thing.

(43:33):
And I will say it made me like him a
little more.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
Because he was so sweet.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Yeah, he was just so helpless and he was like
this big guy and I had to like kind of
take care of him, help him and he was scared
and had to get him snacks and be like, just
go to sleep. When you wake up, you'll be fine.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
It was like a very what happened?

Speaker 1 (43:53):
I don't know, but you like the story. I guess.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
I guess. I guess. Like emojis popping up.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
You're morphing into like an AI human.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
There we go. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
Finally I could hang out with you all day. Wow,
this is the best. This show brought us together. We
have done a movie since. Yes and I love you
and I'm so happy that you were here hosting this
episode of Me today.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
Thanks everyone for listening. Be sure to follow us a
ig at the mess Around pod. The brilliant director also
known as an actor, mister Setia.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Baba, love you, Bye bye.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
That was the mess Around in iHeartMedia Production.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
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Abu Zafar. Bei Wang provided engineering and editing services.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
Additional production from Daniel Goodman, Wendy Heisler, and Kyle Shevron.
Our theme song was written and composed by Ronald Jukebox Jackson.

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