September 5, 2024 • 50 mins
Get the latest scoop! Hannah and Lamorne invite an old friend back into the loft: journalist extraordinaire, Jessica Radloff, who chronicled New Girl over dozens of Glamour Magazine articles at the height of the show's fame. The three talk about how they grew up together in a cut-throat industry and their antics then and now.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
I mean, that's not.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Everybody.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
So this is the episode that we call the Loft Meeting,
where we invite honorary roomies to come and talk about
all things New Girl, all things four D, all things
about the Loft. Today we have the beautiful, amazing and
beloved Jessica rad Love with us. Jessica is the senior
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West Coast editor, a Clamor and also the author of
the New York Times bestseller The Big Bang Theory, the
definitive inside story of the epic hitsies, and she was
one of the first critics to profess her love for
a New Girl. She's going to talk to us about
what makes New Girls special, what was going on when
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season two wrapped, and why we aren't seeing the mid
twenties arly thirties sitcom featuring a group of friends that
much anymore. Was New Girl the last one? Or is
there room for more Bessie hijinks in the shit? We're
going to get into it.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Let's go on, morn Hannah, that was the nicest, Huy,
Thank you so much. I'm so glad it was you
doing it and see it in the morn A little.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Scared if I did it, if I did it. I
would have been like, oh, she wrote this book, the
Big Bang Theory, Like when is she going to write
the New Girl book?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
This is also a good question, when is the New
Girl book coming?
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Because do you want me to write the New Girl book?
I'll write the New Girl book if you want me to.
Although I have to say you have to be prepared
for it. You got to think long and hard because
when I did the Big Bank Theory book, Jim Parsons
spent over twenty hours with me, So you got to
be prepared to like go It's like therapy sessions. You've
got to go deep. So think about it.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
I'm there for it.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I love it. All the juicy details I'll feed you.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
I mean, I want to know everything. But that's very
that's very sweet of you. It would be my honor
if you guys wanted to do that one day, because
it only works when the cast is willing to go there.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yeah, listen, I'm totally down. I'm totally down. As as
a certain percentage of royalties from the sales, all right.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Well, we just need you to that's it. I could
send a New Girl or History with just a handsome moment.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I can speak for Jake, I can speak for Max
and Damon because yeah, because we talk all the time,
I know exactly what they're feeling. And Hannah can speak
for for Zoe and all.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
The speak Zoe and Ferguson and outside Dave.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yes, yes, I actually was thinking Ferguson could be the cover.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
That would be great? That great?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
When't that?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Why don't I reel all the way back to the
beginning because I want to know your memories in your
story of New Girl from your lens? Do you remember
the first time you came on set or metas Yes?
Speaker 1 (03:10):
And I was going down memory lane last night because
I was looking up all the old Glamour articles that
we ever wrote about the show. We I mean, I
knew we covered the show a lot. I didn't realize
how much we covered the show. It is really funny
to see some of these old headlines. Also, I was like,
now I know why Lamarne wanted me on to talk
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about season two as well, because in one article that
we did, we actually said season two belongs to Winston
aka lamar and Morris. And I was like, there we go, No,
that's what that's what we said. And then also I
don't know if Lamarren remembers this, but you both were there.
So we had zoe on the cover of Glamour. I
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want to say it was like January twenty thirteen and
we honored her with a dinner. So this was right
at the height of season two. We honored her with
a dinner. You and Lamarne were there and the headline,
like I talk about it, I was like, the coolest
thing about Zoey Deschanel is we couldn't love her anymore
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because look what she does for her co stars. Because
Lamarne told me that she bought him a toaster oven
with the Miami Heat label on it and it made
Miami Heat toast, and then also got him a sparkly
backpack with the Miami Heat logo on it. And then
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after the dinner that night, he texted me the pictures
of these items, of the toaster and the backpack, and
like it was just the funniest thing. Like I was
looking back on all these things and I was like, okay,
like going back to twenty eleven, twenty twelve, like I
feel like I came up with you guys as well,
because that was around the time I started at Glamours.
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So It's like we all grew up together, and you guys,
there's just nobody like all of you together. All of
you individually are so talented, but you get all of
you in a room and it's just all bets are
off because the camaraderie, everything was so good.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I still have this is I just want to clear
this up for the folks out there. Not a Miami
Heat fan. I'm a Lebron James fan. Yes, I'm sorry,
but they were Miami Heat items because at the time
Lebron was playing for the Heat. I still have all
those items. Have I made a grilled cheese sandwich with
this toaster? No? Have I used the toaster?
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Wait a minute, hold up, why would the toaster be
involved in a grilled cheese sandwich? This lets me know
other people are making your grilled cheese sandwiches for you.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
No, and I'm just not canading.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
You're pre toasting the bread, you make the grilled cheese extra. No,
you're not. Now you're just doubling down.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Because crazy Hannah. Listen what she listened to, what she
just said. This is how I know you're not paying
attention to the great Jessica redl She just said that
the toaster makes the Miami Heat logo imprinted on it.
How am I going to do that in the pan?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
You're not going to do it. So you want to
sit there pre toast your bread so we can have
the logo on it. On your grilled cheese.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yes, I can get Miami grilled cheese, grilled cheese, frantico.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
We're going to need you to do this, that's right.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
I want to see it now.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Can you please make I.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Will because we we need a little bit of that. Uh,
you don't want to bring some South Beach to this sandwich?
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Yeah, I want some home cooking on this podcast now.
I really we should have a taste.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
That's happening to.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
See Lamourn's grilled cheese.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Pree toast the bread. I'm distracted.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I know who this is. This is what we but
this is what we would write about. I remember back
in the day, like it just was so funny to
see all these old articles and just the headlines. And
by the way, this was really funny too, is that
every time I would interview Zoe in the beginning of
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the series, she would always take my phone and take
selfies with them. Now at the time, because this is
twenty twelve, we didn't know they were called selfies. So
in my articles I refer to them as Zoe took
my phone for a selfhie. Well, Noah, because we didn't
like selfies. Wasn't in our vocabulary really yet, so she
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would always take it. I didn't know what that was called.
And I'm like, wow, like we were children back then.
It was just so crazy we did. We like all
grew up together and came of age with this show.
That's why it's so stel.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
So we talked about how I was the hero of
season two. Thank you for saying so that means a lot.
This is what the fans in the world say. This
is what God says. But at the end of season two,
you know, Taylor Swift shows up, Nick and Jess, they
run off together talk about the state of the of
the fandom.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Oh wait minute, Lamur, and you forgot you forgot something
huge there.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
At the end of season two.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Well Taylor, you just Taylor Swift shows up, but Hannah
gets to share a scene with her.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I don't care. I wasn't there for that, and I'm
so disappointed that they wrote it that way. They did
not invite me to the party. Well, Hannah and everybody
are living it up with Taylor Swift, getting free tickets,
hanging out in her mansion, taking trips on her private plane.
They probably go to They probably go to Chiefs games
for free.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Now, I mean, I love this alternate universe. By the way,
I'm not even going to correct you, because I wanted
to come here and say.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
I didn't get any of that fanfare. But talk about
the state of the state of fandom at that point,
you know, because with us, and I want you talked
about it from your point of view, because with us,
you know, we were working so much that we didn't
really get a chance to go out and see it
unless we were being honored at some gala or some
event or things like that, and on our downtime. I
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just like to be at home for the most part.
But every once in a while, you'd notice it from
the on the street when you when you go out
or do regular things. Talk about it from your standpoint
of what it looked like being kind of behind the
scenes and writing about it, and you know, being on
that side of the coin.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah, like you said, it was really the you know,
almost the last great twenty thirty something romantic comedy sitcom
that we had, and it was paired with the Mindy
Project after the first season, so it was like appointment viewing,
and we really hadn't had that in such a long time.
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And I really do compare in many ways the relationship
between Winston and Schmidt and Nick with the trio that
we had on Friends with Joey and with Chandler and
with Ross. Like the way that you guys all worked
together was so great, and then of course it's like
Ceci and Jess. It was kind of like Rachel and
Monica in some ways. And I think aside from just
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the amazing acting and the writing, it was the way
in which you all came together that made this so successful,
and there was an audience for that because people were
still also watching network television at the time. Now TV
has changed so much. I mean, you guys came about
really before Netflix and the Hulus and all that really
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took over. So will we see that again. I'm sure
we will at some point because everything is sickle, and
you know, there's always a craving. But at the same time,
I do think that people know if you can't do
something right there's no point in bringing that kind of
genre back just for the sake of it, and some
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people have tried and it doesn't really work because what
you guys did was was lightning in a bottle, as
they call it. And I learned that, especially from doing
The Big Bang Book, that you have to have so
many components come together in order to make a show
a hit, and you all had that. I mean, I
don't even know how you guys memorized your lines, because
the dialogue that you have to memory and the speed
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in which you said it it was insane. I was
trying to watch it with close captioning even last night,
and the close captioning is a mess because it's just
line up relying on top of each other, and it's
just you just don't get that kind of speed and
tone in a lot of these rom com sitcoms anymore.
So I do think it was kind of the last
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one of its kind, but I think it'll be back
in a different form unless you guys bring it back
as a reunion. I also found this was funny and
one of my early interviews, Max Greenfield said to me
that he was going to do a spinoff called Schmidt happens,
So I'm still waiting for that one, but yeah, it was.
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It was really cool and fascinating to watch all of
you just be so embraced by viewers, because it really
was the last kind of appointment television viewing at that time,
where every week you knew where to find New Girl,
and so twenty five episodes you did in season two,
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like that doesn't happen anymore. So you were in everybody's
lives all the time except for two or three months
in the summer, and then we still have reruns back
then too, So it was really cool to watch all
of you just be embraced by all these fans and
in critical acclaim too, like it wasn't just the fans
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like you, guys, Really this was such a smart show
that it's hard to find.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I could see it coming back in a different style universe,
in a different dementia, in a Golden Girls esque dimension,
because at this point, you know, I'm still the youngest
in the cast, so I probably wouldn't be able to
fit that that cast. But I think the rest of
the cast they're.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
All, oh, you'd be a baby Blanche for sure. You
would be a baby Blanche for sure.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah, well you could make grilled cheese Santa, you know
on the Luni. Yeah, I see that.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
I mean talking about Taylor Swift because we've talking a
lot about Season two. I can't quite recall because we
really were deep into shooting and like you said, we
did twenty five episodes, so the schedule was a little relentless.
Where was Taylor Swift in terms of like the fan
fervor at that time, because I knew she was a
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big get at the time, But she's done nothing like
kept you know, ascending since.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Then, right, I mean, she's in a different universe now.
I think we can all agree like what's happened, especially
in the last couple of years, Like she's just she's
in her own orbit, and I mean not in the
best way possible, because she has just reached a level
that very seldomly happens. But she was a huge git
back in twenty thirteen when she guest starred in the finale,
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and I remember that it was so hyped up and
we wrote about it because it was of course we
wrote about I mean we wrote about it every week,
but like that episode in particular, we went all in
on because it was a season finale, Taylor was guest
starring CC's wedding. Doesn't happen. Nick and Jess end up,
you know, really making a go of it again. Winston
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is an event up top, you know, like all these
things are happening. And but yeah, Taylor was. She was
huge back then. That was a huge get It's she
and Prince are the two names that we always think
about when we think of New Girl guest stars. And
you guys had so many guest stars that I mean,
it's it's truly insane. And you didn't even need them either.
(14:32):
That's the thing in Liz Merriweather I remember was telling
me at one point that she didn't want to do
a lot of stunt casting because you didn't need it.
What we came to see, you guys, We didn't come
to see the stunt casting. But the fact that I'm sorry,
you had Prince and Taylor Swift on your show aside
from all these other people, like, it's just insane when
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you really do think about it. So Taylor was a big,
big deal then and that was too how And yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
It's interesting because it's funny you made the friends comparison,
and then I think about the huge stars that were
on Friends too, but they didn't need it either. It's
really funny. It's like people wanted to come and play yeah,
because they were just fans of the show. Like a
lot of those were incoming calls, which is crazy or quick. Yes,
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is from people that didn't do any other like network
comedy acting. They just really wanted to jump into this
weird little world that they were fans of.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
It's fun to see. It's fun to when you do
look back and you look at the Olivia Rodrigo's of
the world, and you know, you look at folks who
got not started on New Girl, but obviously Ron Funches
for example, they've then since become these stars and they
were all a part of the New Girl family. It
reminds me of like Sesame Street in a way where
you go, oh, man, all these people were on Sesame Street.
(15:55):
They they were all like, really, Michael B. Jordan was
on Sesame Street. He goes yeah, Like that's that's kind
of wild to me to think about our show that way.
Because over the years I find people that will come
up to me, actors who might not even be big names,
like Taylor Swift or Olivia Rodrigo or Prince, but they
would go, hey, man, I was in this episode of
New Girl. I was the guy who said this in
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the car, or I was the guy at the convenience store.
We did a scene together in the restaurant. And it's
so many people. When you think back on it, you go, man,
that's a that's a big connection with a lot of
different people. And then you realize, oh, we've done over
one hundred and fifty episodes.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
I mean, maybe Jessica will relate to this. So I
always say we're like the Law and Order of LA
Like in New York, every actor is like I did
a Law and Order episode, and everybody somehow feels like
so many actors are connected into the New Girl universe.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Oh yeah, yep. Do you know the one actor that
Liz Merriweather wanted to guest star and she told me
she wasn't able to get Do you guys know who
that was? Do you have any idea Willis?
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I know Bruce Willisy did. They did try to get
Bruce will It's true, Bruce Willis was supposed to come
and be on the show. I do remember that. I
was so devastated.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Wow, oh no, oh my god. Sarah silvermane out. Sarah Silverman, No,
I don't even think it was a no. It was
just scheduling didn't work out or something. So Sarah, Yeah,
I just I think that's so that's so funny. I mean,
Sarah Silverman is amazing. But I'm sorry still when you
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have Prince.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
We figured it out. We figured it out. It was
for the Prince episode, but it worked out. Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I love that. I do have to say, though. You know,
the thing that's so interesting is that as a journalist
you get very close to the cast of shows that
you write about and work with and everything, but you
rarely stay connected with them after a show ends. And
Lamarne has remained like he's in my life forever. He's
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remained one of my dearest friends, like I love him
and Hannah. Anytime I see you, it's like no time
is past, and it's just there's a special bond with
you guys, and there was just something no matter how
successful you got, you all remained so level headed about
it all. And I think that was one of the
most beautiful things about it being the ensemble that it
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was too, is that you all recognized what you had,
which was really cool. And I mean I still see
it now. I was talking to lam more and at
an Emmy party this past January and the amount of
people that just kept coming up to him, like throughout
the night just to talk about like new Girl and stuff.
It's really incredible. I get it it. It was something
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that really touched a lot of people and stayed with
I will.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Say, like, it's interesting because you know, none of us,
especially like you know, Lemuren and myself and Jake like
it had been on anything that had this level of success.
So we were all kind of born into that world
together and it's a little overwhelming and you're figuring it
out on your feet. It's a massive learning curve. And
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it was the true gift to have because we did
a lot of press all the time, non stuff, but
it was the true gift to have journalists like yourself
who we knew were a safe space because we would
walk those carpets and you're talking to people and sometimes
you don't know if someone has an agenda or not,
and then you wouldn't. It was always just like the
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greatest relief to see you come on set, or to
see you on a carpet, or to know that oh
you have this phone er and it's with Jessica because
you could just breathe a little bit and your shoulders
would drop and you would just know, oh, it's going
to be a good time. And they have the best
interests of like myself and the show at the heart
of it, which is really nice because it's you know,
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things can be taken out of context or you know,
out of pocket questions or being asked about someone's personal life.
And there was just a few people and I think
that's why these friendships still stand today because it was
so genuine. It's you know what I mean, after a
decade of it, it is something that you know was
real and true. So we're really grateful for you too.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
That is very very sweet. Your check's in the mail, Hannah,
as they say, now that was in twenty twelve. I
could be like, the check is in the mail now.
I'm gonna be like venmo you after this.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
But even talking about the relationships with some of the
cast members outside of the show, like you said, Jessic, good,
you and I we've stayed in communication and we hang
out here and there, and we've been you know, really
good friends. For free you.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
My mother took you to dinner. Remember when you went
to dinner with my mom.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Yes, So I mean, like, not only it's not only
about the show, but even in endeavors outside of the show.
It's great to have someone that genuinely cares about your
path as well, not just on that one particular show.
You know, you know, always is giving me advice on
this or that, or helping me with this or that,
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or you know, and vice versa. Even really mainly women.
But I've I've given you relationship advice to you, but
I know you talked, You talked a lot about, you know,
the comparison to friends. During this time, there were a
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lot of big shows, you know, there was obviously the
Big Bang Theory Girls was a thing, like a big,
big hit show, Two Broke Girls, How I'm at Your
Mother Happy End. He's all these shows, and to me
this was a it's kind of a golden era on
TV because all these shows are fantastic. All these shows
are great, not saying one's better than the other. But
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what made New Girls stand out? What was in your opinion,
you know, having covered a lot of these shows, what
was what would you say was the difference between our
show or let's say you know, a Big Bang theory.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
I'll tell you exactly what it is because I was
reminded of this as I was watching it last night.
It is the honesty in which these characters were portrayed.
A lot of the times we saw Schmidt and Winston
and Nick as these like man children. We got to
see them be very vulnerable in ways that we hadn't
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seen in a while. But it wasn't just pure silliness.
There was always truth at the very heart of it,
and that's what made it so interesting. And I think,
you know, Big Bang was a different show. It was
multi cam. You guys you know, obviously shot New Girl differently. Also,
you're dealing with people that the characters on Big Bang,
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that a lot of them were socially stunted in a
way that you could say, there was still a lot
of social you know, social awkwardness on New Girl, but
it was a different kind. But the way in which
it was all portrayed, and the honesty in which you
guys all talked about relationships and career stuff in your worries,
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we hadn't really seen that in a way that mixed
the emotion with the humor. Usually so many shows will
go just straight for the laugh, But you had to
care about these characters first, and that's what New Girl
did better than any other romantic comedy sitcom was that
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you truly cared where these people would be, where they
would wind up, and what you all brought to it
was just again it's it's kind of boring to keep
saying over, but it's so true, like if anybody else
was doing these roles, it would not have clicked the
way that it did. You guys brought so much to it,
(23:46):
you know, in the performances, from the writing. So yeah,
it's I really do think New Girls stood out above
a lot of other shows that were popular at that
time because of the way in which these characters were written,
that you truly cared about their wellbeing in ways that
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cared about certain other characters, but maybe not in that same,
that same, you know way.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yeah, you talk a lot about well not a lot,
but you spoke about Appointment TV and how it was
one of those shows that people would, you know, DVR,
they'd all gather around, they have watch parties, things like that.
But during the pandemic, we saw that streaming became a
thing where you could just kind of sit back and
binge it. And during that time, New Girl, along with
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a few other shows, became It was almost there was
this resurgence as if the show were brand new to
a lot of folks. To this day, I get people
that you know in their early twenties that will say, hey,
you guys doing another season of New Girl, and they
genuinely mean it. They don't mean a reunion, they mean
is there another season?
Speaker 3 (24:56):
We love your Netflix show New Girl now Hulu sh
show New Girl. They think it's a brand new streaming
show that has not ended yet.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Exactly, well, I get it because you all look the
same too, which we're gonna I'm gonna need all of
your skincare routines because these great. Seriously, if you guys
look so much older, which is also like wonderful, you know,
I could understand. I could be like, Okay, what are
these people next looks older? I could understand why why
(25:27):
it would be a little weird if yours are like
when is the next season coming out? But you all
look the same, get out. I need your skincare routines
because you could put all of you back into this
show as if you hadn't, like no time has passed,
and I would believe that it was just what season eight?
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yeah, yeah, why not? I listened Jessica, you gotta, you gotta.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
What are you drinking over there?
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Both A good question.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Coffee?
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Coffee. Yeah, there's a lot of coffee. Maintained herself with coffee.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
It's been that way since New Girl. Actually, funny, funny thing,
I wasn't drinking coffee. Uh, prior to New I remember this,
I was not. And then these early call times, waking
up earlier, I was like, you know what, by by lunch,
I'm I'm legit passed out in my trailer, so tired,
so many coffees, and then people with people would go
have you had have you had espresso? I go, well,
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what the f is that? You know? And then they
had the little machine in there, and so I just
kind of got used to making these cool, you know, frothy, weird,
you know lattes.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
That's actually a very good episode because there's so much
coffee talk that happened on our set. Where you got
your coffee, how you drink your coffee, what were the
rules around the coffee. Max was usually at the center
of it. He was like our big coffee fiend, who had, like,
not shockingly, but he had like a lot of rules
about how it was supposed to happen, and if not,
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you were just like, you know, disgusting.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Oh my god. Wait, speaking of Max, do you want
to hear a funny story that I remember too? Into
all this I will never forget. I don't even know
how this happened, but it was season two, I believe.
I was told one day that I was going to
be taking a soul cycle class with Max Greenfield. I
was there viewing. Were you there for that?
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Chi, yes, I think it was for milk and bookies. Yes,
I was there.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
He called me an hour before and I raced over.
I know this because I think you took a picture
of Max and I and I looked so sweaty and
out of sorts because I'm not a workout person, and
he looked great because he loved to work out and
he was so happy with all the turnout and everything.
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Oh my gosh, I remember this. Okay, sorry, continue.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
This is so no, this is so funny. Also, you
would look you look amazing just getting out of bed.
I'm sure. So I don't want to hear this like
you did, seriously, but oh stop the more.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
But no, you know what, actually I have to say
this in the morning. I'm proud of you for telling
the truth. We've talked about this. Stop lying to women.
Tell the truth. Okay, okay, oh my god. We're working
on these things in real life, Jessica, real life things.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
But I unders I understand. I understand this.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Okay, you can say it was like a monster in
the morning. It's okay. I can hear it. I can
take it. I can take it. I'm strong enough.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
It's okay, I love it. Oh my god. So anyways,
so I remember we were doing this, this interview with Max,
and they told us it was going to be on
camera for Glamour. We were recording it. I've never taken
a damn soul cycle class in my life. I'm mainly
like a treadmill or elliptical girl. I don't do soul cycle.
So I remember, I have my note cards in one
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hand a microphone in the other, trying not to fall
off greens.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
I'm not even well, you did do it on the
bike during the class.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
So wait, well I didn't understand this part. This is
where I got crazy, is that they're like, we need
you to peddle and I was like, I'm sorry, what
you want me to actually work out with him while
interviewing him at the same time, And They're like, yeah,
that's the point of it. And I was just I mean,
that might have been me. That must have been the
equivalent of like rubbing your stomach, patting your head and
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I don't know, trying to do leg lifts at the
same time. But I was just like, what am I
being asked to do? I nearly fell off of it.
I don't even know what I said to him, Like
it was just a mess because I thought I just
had to sit on the bike and do this interview.
I didn't know actually had to cycle, you know, And
I've never gone back that.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
That was also my only soul cycle class too. I
was like, this is so hard. I will say that
the music shows was bang, and I do remember I
was like, man, this is a DJ. This is some
good music.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Really, I blink. I just you know, I have no
memory anymore of anything else. I was like, this is
this is too much, this has taking it too a
I have a question for you guys. When during the pandemic,
when people started rewatching new girls, some for the very
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first time. We didn't really we had Instagram in twenty twelve,
twenty eleven, but it wasn't what it is now. Did
you guys notice a huge uptick in followers or messages
in your social media over these last few years, because
now that's how you sign up?
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Blamor I feel like, didn't I help you? It was Hipstomatic.
It wasn't even Instagram. Remember, wasn't it called Hipstomatic?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Oh? I have no idea it was.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
And it was like a little polaroid looking camera. Was
that app That's what it looked like, Like, yeah, that's
some now, and it was I think it was called Hipsomatic,
and I think I don't know, but a few cast
members literally signed up in that first year year because
we were like, I guess we should get this to
maybe document and share, and no, we did not have
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a lot of followers to pick in with.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
And then it just, oh yeah, it shot up for.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Sure, skyrocketed because we were sharing things from the show.
And this is before you could do stories or anything.
So it's just the grit, the picture.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Just a picture and a caption. Yeah, I remember. The
thing I remember about that moment was them saying that
we need you guys to get on social media, and
we need you to follow all these rules in order
to get verified.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Oh yeah, the verification process was intense.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
I was like, what do you mean, what does that mean?
Speaker 3 (31:40):
We know a guy? Someone like, well.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
It's me. How do we know it's because I'm telling
you it's me? Like, why do fans know it's you?
Speaker 3 (31:47):
To send in our driver's licenses? I think, to be
like to prove it was us to get verified.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Yeah, I remember to get the blue check get I mean,
wasn't that a big thing?
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Oh, such a big thing. And somebody he already had
my name, and I remember I had read some article
maybe it was in Glamor about how Kanye West couldn't
get his name either, and so he called his account
the real Kanye West. So I was like, oh, I
guess that's what you do if somebody has already taken
your name. And so that's why mine is still called
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the real Hannah Simone. That's all yeah, that's all easy
fun fact Hannah Hannah Uneasy had a long term relationship,
that's why he gave her these. He confuses me for
Kim Kardashian ll more, it doesn't so he likes to
tell this story and that is not true. That was
not me. That is another woman that he married and
had children with. That is not me. We keep talking
(32:43):
about this, that's not true, not true. Oh my god,
I just learned that thing about Instagram through an article.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Listen. I think we all hit it off because Me, Hannah,
and Zoe all had banks.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
This is true, and that's why.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
That's what that's my theory.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
I think there is truth to it. We were all
babies with bangs trying to figure out this crazy industry.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
I know, lamarn when are you growing yours?
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Well, my hairline disagrees with me often, so sometimes it's normal.
Sometimes it's Lebron James, So I don't quite know what
it's doing. But I'm going to grow it out for
a role or something, and then I'm going to put
some dreadlocks that hang down here and then I'll bang
those up.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
So we're going to live as flashback Winston, Yes, in
your latter years.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Yeah, I'm okay with that.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
I'm okay with that too.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
By the way, Look, do you remember when we went
on a date Lamarne for Glamour for the On a
Date series and we went to this like Benny Hanna
type restaurant, and I put you in a chef's hatch
at the where they made Do you remember this?
Speaker 2 (33:48):
I remember it was off of Sunset, right, it.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Was off of Sunset. But also Hannah, this was the
craziest thing. So we had this series called on a
Date with and I would take guys on a like
faked and we would find out and ask them all
the questions that our readers would want to know. So,
since at the time, Lamourn and I lived like two
minutes away from each other, it's like, I'll pick you
up and we'll go to the restaurant. He kept me
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waiting in the car for twenty minutes. I was so
I was so pissed heading into this fake date. I
was like, would you do this on a real date
where you were faking the girl late? Do you remember this?
Speaker 2 (34:25):
I don't remember being late, but if that, but that's it.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Oh he was late.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
It's kind of were you outside of my house?
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Uh huh?
Speaker 2 (34:32):
And you know I know what happened. I know exactly
what happened.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
I can oh, oh yes, please explain.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
I was filming. I was filming, filming what this charitable
thing where I was just giving back to the community
and the community needs Oh that's where because the community
needs to.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
That's where he's going to get us. Uh huh.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Yeah, And I was just being a hero, and I
can't be in two places at once. I've tried. I've
tried it.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Sometimes I can be literally praised you on this podcast
today for learning to not lie when you feel panicked.
Mm hmm, you see what's happening right now.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
No, I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Late he was playing basketball, that's what he was.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Probably also true, that's also you forgot.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Yeah, say, you're so lovable that I that I totally like.
You know, once you get in the car, it's like,
oh it's Lamorn, Like I just I love this guy,
like whatever. But yeah, but here you had to make
up this whole thing about how you were giving back
to the community. And that's why I was sitting in.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Which is also funny because no one gives back to
the community, probably actually more than you. You're the most
human ever.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
So that's what I'm saying. It was probably me. I
was probably passing out.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
It was not in this scenario. I'm going to sit
there and say, it's a fact I would know. Okay, Hannah,
I can see you lying eyes.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Wait, what's the best gift that you've ever received from
Lamar and Hannah?
Speaker 3 (35:52):
The gift of friendship?
Speaker 4 (35:54):
Joking, I was gonna say, I I.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Don't know, I I do know, Actually I do know.
Here's actually I will say this. He gave you something
I don't even know why. I really want to share
it was. It's pretty, it's private and very sweet. It
was for a family member. It was just like, he's
just so thoughtful. Lamourne is actually one of the most
thoughtful gift givers that I've ever met. But I will
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say this is the greatest thing about being in a
friendship with Lamore and we've talked about this is lemarn
is the friend that shows up no matter what it is.
If you have a birthday party, you have a book launch,
if you whatever, having us dinner and your parents are
coming and you're just like, I'm gonnavite some friends. If
you invite Lamore and if he's not, you know, out
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of the city, he will always show up, which is
like we that's like the opposite of me. It is
It's not true, No, it's the opposite of me. I
don't show up for anything. Which I feel like is
like that's a good way to roll. Like, if you're
not going to show up, you can't jump for anything.
Otherwise it looks like you're picking and choosing. But I'm
such an introverted house cat, I don't. I just don't
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go out, so I'll be like I love you, but
you know I'm not coming, and they're like, love you.
We totally understand that about you, which is why we
make such a funny pair. But that's one of my
favorite things about Lamarn is that you know, if you
call him and say can you come, He's always like,
I got you, I'll be there.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
My bar mitzvah Hannah. Hannah was supposed to come and
do a song. She didn't show up for that either,
and she did paid. She had been paid my conver
what's the Jewish word for, like grandma, baba, nana?
Speaker 1 (37:35):
My nana is Kyle answering you Yeah, Kyle no, Yeah, he.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Knows, but he's pretending he doesn't because he's also a Cuban,
so he's like trying to get me. Cuban likes my nana.
My bubba, was that a thing?
Speaker 1 (37:48):
My nana Bubby?
Speaker 2 (37:49):
My bubby paid Hannah forty five thousand dollars to show
up to my bar Mitzvah and Hannah did not show up. Hanna,
you want to.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Explain private show. It's a different thing.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
You realize, you guys could take this act on the road.
You should go to bar and bot Mitzvahz all over
the country, especially since these young thirteen year olds are
watching New Girl. Now onto the comebec and the COBC.
You guys should just go. You could make so much
money this way.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Really well, I'm there, but were justhired to manage it.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
I don't know what just happened, but Jessica, you're hired.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
If you could on the Bart's that's.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
What we'll do. We'll go on a tour around America
and uh, I'll just let you guys run loose it all.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
What happened at Bar Mitzvaz. This is what's happening. We
figured it out. When everyone's like, is there a reunion,
We'll be like, we're busy.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Jessica, you want to go on tour with us?
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Yes, and then I'll write the book with you guys
in between the bar and bot Mitz for celebration.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
By the way, this is not a terrible idea that
we go on tour and do this live and Jessica
you come along with us. I'm very into.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
I like this. Yes, and then Lamar is gonna make
girl cheese sandwiches for us too. I like to see
him tranned all of this.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
We're you guys trying to get paid.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Wait, did you also ever wear the backpack that Zoe
gave you?
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Yes? I used to travel sparkly one. I used to
travel with it.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Did you really do you good?
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Hand me down for Lily? But it's a sparkly backpack.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Yeah, I'm still I'm a Lebron fan. That pillow over there,
I'm a Lebron fan. Like people think this is a joke,
there's not.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
It's not you love you are obsessed with him, Lebron
and Beyonce.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Yeah, Beyonce. Beyonce has since like written a letter telling
me to like stop contacting her and this is illegal.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
And I was like, all right, what is on that pillow?
Oh jesus, it's Lebron.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Bron James hear that just in case.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Actually it's a little scary. It looks like a potato
you drew on, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
It looked like Wayne Brady for a while.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Do you keep that out when girls come over?
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Yeah, I got to get them excited somehow.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Yes, yeah, we're going to do a walk through of
the house and just wow, okay.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
They see Lebrun and they go ooh what I got
surprise it's me And they go, oh, I guess, I
guess cool?
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Oh my god. Is this what you expected, Jessica when
you got to hang out with us today.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
I honestly had no expectations. This is the right move,
no expectations off the wall. That's wait, what would you wait?
I want to play interviewer for a second, and I'm
very curious knowing what you all do. Now, what would
you go back and tell yourselves at the beginning of
your first day on set.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
I would tell myself that you're not going to get fired,
so be bold, facts, be big, and be weird starting
day one.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Yeah, that's true. Facts. I think it's so funny. So
many people tell you that from the beginning. Oh, I
know this person who joined the show or joined a
show and then they got fired after the first season.
And so you really are just trying to not screw
up so deeply that it almost inhibits you. And as
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we've been doing this rewatch, we kind of watch ourselves
and go, like, man, I wish I'd leaned into that more.
I wish I had gotten a little weirder in this thing.
But that's what the that's what's missing I feel like
now in TV is a lot of shows aren't given
the gifts of time to figure it out. And so
New Girl, I mean, yeah, it came out hot, and
(41:32):
that first season is amazing, and we got better and
better and better just because we as actors could feel
more comfortable and then we knew that we were solid
in our jobs and that all of a sudden gave
us massive freedom. It also led our real life friendships
like deepen, which means we had so much more trust
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and like knowing what the other person was going to do.
And I feel like that that's what's really just changed
in the state of television is that a lot of
shows aren't given the gift of.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Time right when they film a whole season at once
before it comes out, right, they don't get that privilege. Yeah,
and I feed bet to watch it somewhat in real time. Yeah,
you know, yeah, I'm curious so too, because as I
noticed in rewatching things, the dialogue was so fast paced,
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and you guys, you had to keep up with it
because that's how these scenes worked so well. How did
you memorize your lines? How hard was that for you?
Did you have any tricks?
Speaker 2 (42:35):
For me? Mine is just my mnemonic device, is just repetition.
That's what it would be. It was. I would sit
down with a friend of mine and we would just
go over it and go over it, go over it.
And I would only do that the night before, so
I wouldn't spend so many yeah the night before and
I would just get it. So I was just off
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book that I would run it without the script one
time if I can land, if you to land it
verbatim one time without the script. I stop right there
and then I don't look at it again until we
rehearse the next morning, because I wanted to feel somewhat fresh,
and I want it. I don't want to leave room
for improv because we improvise a lot on the show,
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so I want to leave room where I'm not so
glued to the words. Also, because Liz changes things on
the fly and you get there sometimes day of the
pages are slightly different.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
And it's harder to unmemorize once it's locked in your
brain and they change three words. That's actually I find trickier.
Oh yeah, well, then to sit there and just to
learn it fresh. I do remember many times sitting in
the hair and makeup chairs next to each other, running
lines with each other, just to help each other out,
even if it wasn't in your scene or whatever, Could
you just help me? Or going into Lamorn's trailer because
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we shared like a double trailer, so I'd go onto
his side and running lines if we needed to it
was for a baker scene. I do that we were
all very hot full with each other. We all really
were team show, and that I think is what was
really helpful. We also knew that there was a lot
of dialogue and fast dialogue and it would change, so
we gave each other I think, like a lot of
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help and a lot of grace around it to find
it because things would change so often. So that was
really nice. There wasn't a lot of impatience within the cast.
I think if it took you a second to figure
it out or to remember it, we had each other's
backs in a real way when it came to like
learning lines or like pitching each other jokes for improv
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telling people what could be funny to try it out.
That was also really nice. It was super supportive that way.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Oh yeah, so it made it easy. There was no
pressure to be off book. The only person I would
say who had somewhat that amount of pressure was Max Greenfield,
because the Schmidt character had a lot of big monologues
with specific words and things that were only directly related
to Schmidt. So you know, a lot of us would
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have a lot of overlap with isms and things that
we would say, but schmidt dialogue was very specific to
him and no one else would speak that way. So
he had to he would have to be off book
and he would improvise a lot too, But a lot
of it for him, I would say, most of it
was him having to be word perfect with some of
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these minds.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
Like all the Romney children. I remember that he had
to like list all of them, and I remember him
getting so frustrated because it's not something that yeah, you
can improv around. You had to know it and say
it super fast, couched in all this other dialogue and
story that you had to give. He really, I mean, yeah,
so that was But then that's where the rest of
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us have to just there be like patient and supportive
and given the time and space to get there, because
he probably got handed that the night before or the
morning of, and it's a lot to get stuck in
your brain. So I mean, that's just a credit to him.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
And to watch him get frustrated when he didn't was
still to this day is still one of my favorite
things to witness because when Max gets frustrated off of
his own dialogue.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
Yeah, just still go, he'll screw up his life. Let
him work through it. Just let him work through it,
get to the other side.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
He will just look at it. He will just look
at the floor and go, damn it, Max, damn it Max.
He's so upset with himself. But it was such a
loose and fun set that there was no pressure in it.
He was Max is like, you know, he's Mac, He's
a Schmid. It's one of the best TV characters of
(46:35):
all time. But so so it's great to see that
he took it seriously. But we were all just having fun.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
At family too, right, you know what I mean, he's
getting annoyed at himself. Everybody, just give him a second.
He'll be fine again. The gift of time. That's what
I always talk about with New Girl. I feel like
that was one of the greatest things. They just let
us people have favorite seasons, stronger seasons, stronger episodes, and
we just knew that, like our life didn't hang in
(47:02):
the balance with it. We just kind of knew that
we were gonna keep going. And that is why, like
the fandom and the journalists that supported us and kept
like giving all this information and behind the scenes stories
to the fans is really like the foundation of this show.
Because without that support and the cry for more episodes
(47:23):
and the cliffhangers and people just writing throughout the summer,
what's kind of happened next? What does season three look like?
That's how we knew we could have that job security.
So so much of it is in people like you.
So thanks Jessica, Thank you for appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
I appreciate you, guys, I truly do love you both
so much. The others you.
Speaker 4 (47:46):
Know, it's I'm kidding, but no, there's always been materiously,
there's always been something so special about the two of you,
but all of you too, because yeah, we did all
I'll come up together, I feel like, and it was
just it was so fun.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Also, this show is the perfect audience for Glamour like
it just like it was. Everything that we covered, was
everything that we talked about, and it was just so
nice to see it play out in such a fun
but also heartfelt way. Right, that's what people want, you know.
So I'm glad that people watch it now on Hulu,
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and I do want there to be another season because
you guys haven't aged, so, you know, really.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Just saying I'm still twenty seven. So oh okay, so
thank you. I just you know, life, am I right?
Speaker 1 (48:39):
I mean, Ferguson probably looks his age now, you know,
the little gray cat crawling through that's what it'll be.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
Well, Jessica, thank you, thank you very much, very very
much self for being here. That's the show, folks. So
go to our website, check out our merch You can
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date with myself or Jessica, can.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
I give out your number? Now?
Speaker 2 (49:16):
Yeah?
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Okay, let me, let me pull it up six five
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
Everybody.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
So this is the episode that we call the Loft Meeting,
where we invite honorary roomies to come and talk about
all things New Girl, all things four D, all things
about the Loft. Today we have the beautiful, amazing and
beloved Jessica rad Love with us. Jessica is the senior
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West Coast editor, a Clamor and also the author of
the New York Times bestseller The Big Bang Theory, the
definitive inside story of the epic hitsies, and she was
one of the first critics to profess her love for
a New Girl. She's going to talk to us about
what makes New Girls special, what was going on when
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season two wrapped, and why we aren't seeing the mid
twenties arly thirties sitcom featuring a group of friends that
much anymore. Was New Girl the last one? Or is
there room for more Bessie hijinks in the shit? We're
going to get into it.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Let's go on, morn Hannah, that was the nicest, Huy,
Thank you so much. I'm so glad it was you
doing it and see it in the morn A little.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Scared if I did it, if I did it. I
would have been like, oh, she wrote this book, the
Big Bang Theory, Like when is she going to write
the New Girl book?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
This is also a good question, when is the New
Girl book coming?
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Because do you want me to write the New Girl book?
I'll write the New Girl book if you want me to.
Although I have to say you have to be prepared
for it. You got to think long and hard because
when I did the Big Bank Theory book, Jim Parsons
spent over twenty hours with me, So you got to
be prepared to like go It's like therapy sessions. You've
got to go deep. So think about it.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
I'm there for it.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I love it. All the juicy details I'll feed you.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
I mean, I want to know everything. But that's very
that's very sweet of you. It would be my honor
if you guys wanted to do that one day, because
it only works when the cast is willing to go there.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yeah, listen, I'm totally down. I'm totally down. As as
a certain percentage of royalties from the sales, all right.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Well, we just need you to that's it. I could
send a New Girl or History with just a handsome moment.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I can speak for Jake, I can speak for Max
and Damon because yeah, because we talk all the time,
I know exactly what they're feeling. And Hannah can speak
for for Zoe and all.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
The speak Zoe and Ferguson and outside Dave.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yes, yes, I actually was thinking Ferguson could be the cover.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
That would be great? That great?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
When't that?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Why don't I reel all the way back to the
beginning because I want to know your memories in your
story of New Girl from your lens? Do you remember
the first time you came on set or metas Yes?
Speaker 1 (03:10):
And I was going down memory lane last night because
I was looking up all the old Glamour articles that
we ever wrote about the show. We I mean, I
knew we covered the show a lot. I didn't realize
how much we covered the show. It is really funny
to see some of these old headlines. Also, I was like,
now I know why Lamarne wanted me on to talk
(03:33):
about season two as well, because in one article that
we did, we actually said season two belongs to Winston
aka lamar and Morris. And I was like, there we go, No,
that's what that's what we said. And then also I
don't know if Lamarren remembers this, but you both were there.
So we had zoe on the cover of Glamour. I
(03:55):
want to say it was like January twenty thirteen and
we honored her with a dinner. So this was right
at the height of season two. We honored her with
a dinner. You and Lamarne were there and the headline,
like I talk about it, I was like, the coolest
thing about Zoey Deschanel is we couldn't love her anymore
(04:17):
because look what she does for her co stars. Because
Lamarne told me that she bought him a toaster oven
with the Miami Heat label on it and it made
Miami Heat toast, and then also got him a sparkly
backpack with the Miami Heat logo on it. And then
(04:38):
after the dinner that night, he texted me the pictures
of these items, of the toaster and the backpack, and
like it was just the funniest thing. Like I was
looking back on all these things and I was like, okay,
like going back to twenty eleven, twenty twelve, like I
feel like I came up with you guys as well,
because that was around the time I started at Glamours.
(05:00):
So It's like we all grew up together, and you guys,
there's just nobody like all of you together. All of
you individually are so talented, but you get all of
you in a room and it's just all bets are
off because the camaraderie, everything was so good.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I still have this is I just want to clear
this up for the folks out there. Not a Miami
Heat fan. I'm a Lebron James fan. Yes, I'm sorry,
but they were Miami Heat items because at the time
Lebron was playing for the Heat. I still have all
those items. Have I made a grilled cheese sandwich with
this toaster? No? Have I used the toaster?
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Wait a minute, hold up, why would the toaster be
involved in a grilled cheese sandwich? This lets me know
other people are making your grilled cheese sandwiches for you.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
No, and I'm just not canading.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
You're pre toasting the bread, you make the grilled cheese extra. No,
you're not. Now you're just doubling down.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Because crazy Hannah. Listen what she listened to, what she
just said. This is how I know you're not paying
attention to the great Jessica redl She just said that
the toaster makes the Miami Heat logo imprinted on it.
How am I going to do that in the pan?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
You're not going to do it. So you want to
sit there pre toast your bread so we can have
the logo on it. On your grilled cheese.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yes, I can get Miami grilled cheese, grilled cheese, frantico.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
We're going to need you to do this, that's right.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
I want to see it now.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Can you please make I.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Will because we we need a little bit of that. Uh,
you don't want to bring some South Beach to this sandwich?
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Yeah, I want some home cooking on this podcast now.
I really we should have a taste.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
That's happening to.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
See Lamourn's grilled cheese.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Pree toast the bread. I'm distracted.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
I know who this is. This is what we but
this is what we would write about. I remember back
in the day, like it just was so funny to
see all these old articles and just the headlines. And
by the way, this was really funny too, is that
every time I would interview Zoe in the beginning of
(07:08):
the series, she would always take my phone and take
selfies with them. Now at the time, because this is
twenty twelve, we didn't know they were called selfies. So
in my articles I refer to them as Zoe took
my phone for a selfhie. Well, Noah, because we didn't
like selfies. Wasn't in our vocabulary really yet, so she
(07:29):
would always take it. I didn't know what that was called.
And I'm like, wow, like we were children back then.
It was just so crazy we did. We like all
grew up together and came of age with this show.
That's why it's so stel.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
So we talked about how I was the hero of
season two. Thank you for saying so that means a lot.
This is what the fans in the world say. This
is what God says. But at the end of season two,
you know, Taylor Swift shows up, Nick and Jess, they
run off together talk about the state of the of
the fandom.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Oh wait minute, Lamur, and you forgot you forgot something
huge there.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
At the end of season two.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Well Taylor, you just Taylor Swift shows up, but Hannah
gets to share a scene with her.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I don't care. I wasn't there for that, and I'm
so disappointed that they wrote it that way. They did
not invite me to the party. Well, Hannah and everybody
are living it up with Taylor Swift, getting free tickets,
hanging out in her mansion, taking trips on her private plane.
They probably go to They probably go to Chiefs games
for free.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Now, I mean, I love this alternate universe. By the way,
I'm not even going to correct you, because I wanted
to come here and say.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
I didn't get any of that fanfare. But talk about
the state of the state of fandom at that point,
you know, because with us, and I want you talked
about it from your point of view, because with us,
you know, we were working so much that we didn't
really get a chance to go out and see it
unless we were being honored at some gala or some
event or things like that, and on our downtime. I
(08:56):
just like to be at home for the most part.
But every once in a while, you'd notice it from
the on the street when you when you go out
or do regular things. Talk about it from your standpoint
of what it looked like being kind of behind the
scenes and writing about it, and you know, being on
that side of the coin.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah, like you said, it was really the you know,
almost the last great twenty thirty something romantic comedy sitcom
that we had, and it was paired with the Mindy
Project after the first season, so it was like appointment viewing,
and we really hadn't had that in such a long time.
(09:32):
And I really do compare in many ways the relationship
between Winston and Schmidt and Nick with the trio that
we had on Friends with Joey and with Chandler and
with Ross. Like the way that you guys all worked
together was so great, and then of course it's like
Ceci and Jess. It was kind of like Rachel and
Monica in some ways. And I think aside from just
(09:55):
the amazing acting and the writing, it was the way
in which you all came together that made this so successful,
and there was an audience for that because people were
still also watching network television at the time. Now TV
has changed so much. I mean, you guys came about
really before Netflix and the Hulus and all that really
(10:16):
took over. So will we see that again. I'm sure
we will at some point because everything is sickle, and
you know, there's always a craving. But at the same time,
I do think that people know if you can't do
something right there's no point in bringing that kind of
genre back just for the sake of it, and some
(10:38):
people have tried and it doesn't really work because what
you guys did was was lightning in a bottle, as
they call it. And I learned that, especially from doing
The Big Bang Book, that you have to have so
many components come together in order to make a show
a hit, and you all had that. I mean, I
don't even know how you guys memorized your lines, because
the dialogue that you have to memory and the speed
(11:01):
in which you said it it was insane. I was
trying to watch it with close captioning even last night,
and the close captioning is a mess because it's just
line up relying on top of each other, and it's
just you just don't get that kind of speed and
tone in a lot of these rom com sitcoms anymore.
So I do think it was kind of the last
(11:22):
one of its kind, but I think it'll be back
in a different form unless you guys bring it back
as a reunion. I also found this was funny and
one of my early interviews, Max Greenfield said to me
that he was going to do a spinoff called Schmidt happens,
So I'm still waiting for that one, but yeah, it was.
(11:42):
It was really cool and fascinating to watch all of
you just be so embraced by viewers, because it really
was the last kind of appointment television viewing at that time,
where every week you knew where to find New Girl,
and so twenty five episodes you did in season two,
(12:03):
like that doesn't happen anymore. So you were in everybody's
lives all the time except for two or three months
in the summer, and then we still have reruns back
then too, So it was really cool to watch all
of you just be embraced by all these fans and
in critical acclaim too, like it wasn't just the fans
(12:24):
like you, guys, Really this was such a smart show
that it's hard to find.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I could see it coming back in a different style universe,
in a different dementia, in a Golden Girls esque dimension,
because at this point, you know, I'm still the youngest
in the cast, so I probably wouldn't be able to
fit that that cast. But I think the rest of
the cast they're.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
All, oh, you'd be a baby Blanche for sure. You
would be a baby Blanche for sure.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah, well you could make grilled cheese Santa, you know
on the Luni. Yeah, I see that.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
I mean talking about Taylor Swift because we've talking a
lot about Season two. I can't quite recall because we
really were deep into shooting and like you said, we
did twenty five episodes, so the schedule was a little relentless.
Where was Taylor Swift in terms of like the fan
fervor at that time, because I knew she was a
(13:18):
big get at the time, But she's done nothing like
kept you know, ascending since.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Then, right, I mean, she's in a different universe now.
I think we can all agree like what's happened, especially
in the last couple of years, Like she's just she's
in her own orbit, and I mean not in the
best way possible, because she has just reached a level
that very seldomly happens. But she was a huge git
back in twenty thirteen when she guest starred in the finale,
(13:47):
and I remember that it was so hyped up and
we wrote about it because it was of course we
wrote about I mean we wrote about it every week,
but like that episode in particular, we went all in
on because it was a season finale, Taylor was guest
starring CC's wedding. Doesn't happen. Nick and Jess end up,
you know, really making a go of it again. Winston
(14:09):
is an event up top, you know, like all these
things are happening. And but yeah, Taylor was. She was
huge back then. That was a huge get It's she
and Prince are the two names that we always think
about when we think of New Girl guest stars. And
you guys had so many guest stars that I mean,
it's it's truly insane. And you didn't even need them either.
(14:32):
That's the thing in Liz Merriweather I remember was telling
me at one point that she didn't want to do
a lot of stunt casting because you didn't need it.
What we came to see, you guys, We didn't come
to see the stunt casting. But the fact that I'm sorry,
you had Prince and Taylor Swift on your show aside
from all these other people, like, it's just insane when
(14:53):
you really do think about it. So Taylor was a big,
big deal then and that was too how And yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
It's interesting because it's funny you made the friends comparison,
and then I think about the huge stars that were
on Friends too, but they didn't need it either. It's
really funny. It's like people wanted to come and play yeah,
because they were just fans of the show. Like a
lot of those were incoming calls, which is crazy or quick. Yes,
(15:23):
is from people that didn't do any other like network
comedy acting. They just really wanted to jump into this
weird little world that they were fans of.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
It's fun to see. It's fun to when you do
look back and you look at the Olivia Rodrigo's of
the world, and you know, you look at folks who
got not started on New Girl, but obviously Ron Funches
for example, they've then since become these stars and they
were all a part of the New Girl family. It
reminds me of like Sesame Street in a way where
you go, oh, man, all these people were on Sesame Street.
(15:55):
They they were all like, really, Michael B. Jordan was
on Sesame Street. He goes yeah, Like that's that's kind
of wild to me to think about our show that way.
Because over the years I find people that will come
up to me, actors who might not even be big names,
like Taylor Swift or Olivia Rodrigo or Prince, but they
would go, hey, man, I was in this episode of
New Girl. I was the guy who said this in
(16:17):
the car, or I was the guy at the convenience store.
We did a scene together in the restaurant. And it's
so many people. When you think back on it, you go, man,
that's a that's a big connection with a lot of
different people. And then you realize, oh, we've done over
one hundred and fifty episodes.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
I mean, maybe Jessica will relate to this. So I
always say we're like the Law and Order of LA
Like in New York, every actor is like I did
a Law and Order episode, and everybody somehow feels like
so many actors are connected into the New Girl universe.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Oh yeah, yep. Do you know the one actor that
Liz Merriweather wanted to guest star and she told me
she wasn't able to get Do you guys know who
that was? Do you have any idea Willis?
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I know Bruce Willisy did. They did try to get
Bruce will It's true, Bruce Willis was supposed to come
and be on the show. I do remember that. I
was so devastated.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Wow, oh no, oh my god. Sarah silvermane out. Sarah Silverman, No,
I don't even think it was a no. It was
just scheduling didn't work out or something. So Sarah, Yeah,
I just I think that's so that's so funny. I mean,
Sarah Silverman is amazing. But I'm sorry still when you
(17:26):
have Prince.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
We figured it out. We figured it out. It was
for the Prince episode, but it worked out. Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I love that. I do have to say, though. You know,
the thing that's so interesting is that as a journalist
you get very close to the cast of shows that
you write about and work with and everything, but you
rarely stay connected with them after a show ends. And
Lamarne has remained like he's in my life forever. He's
(18:01):
remained one of my dearest friends, like I love him
and Hannah. Anytime I see you, it's like no time
is past, and it's just there's a special bond with
you guys, and there was just something no matter how
successful you got, you all remained so level headed about
it all. And I think that was one of the
most beautiful things about it being the ensemble that it
(18:21):
was too, is that you all recognized what you had,
which was really cool. And I mean I still see
it now. I was talking to lam more and at
an Emmy party this past January and the amount of
people that just kept coming up to him, like throughout
the night just to talk about like new Girl and stuff.
It's really incredible. I get it it. It was something
(18:44):
that really touched a lot of people and stayed with
I will.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Say, like, it's interesting because you know, none of us,
especially like you know, Lemuren and myself and Jake like
it had been on anything that had this level of success.
So we were all kind of born into that world
together and it's a little overwhelming and you're figuring it
out on your feet. It's a massive learning curve. And
(19:10):
it was the true gift to have because we did
a lot of press all the time, non stuff, but
it was the true gift to have journalists like yourself
who we knew were a safe space because we would
walk those carpets and you're talking to people and sometimes
you don't know if someone has an agenda or not,
and then you wouldn't. It was always just like the
(19:31):
greatest relief to see you come on set, or to
see you on a carpet, or to know that oh
you have this phone er and it's with Jessica because
you could just breathe a little bit and your shoulders
would drop and you would just know, oh, it's going
to be a good time. And they have the best
interests of like myself and the show at the heart
of it, which is really nice because it's you know,
(19:53):
things can be taken out of context or you know,
out of pocket questions or being asked about someone's personal life.
And there was just a few people and I think
that's why these friendships still stand today because it was
so genuine. It's you know what I mean, after a
decade of it, it is something that you know was
real and true. So we're really grateful for you too.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
That is very very sweet. Your check's in the mail, Hannah,
as they say, now that was in twenty twelve. I
could be like, the check is in the mail now.
I'm gonna be like venmo you after this.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
But even talking about the relationships with some of the
cast members outside of the show, like you said, Jessic, good,
you and I we've stayed in communication and we hang
out here and there, and we've been you know, really
good friends. For free you.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
My mother took you to dinner. Remember when you went
to dinner with my mom.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Yes, So I mean, like, not only it's not only
about the show, but even in endeavors outside of the show.
It's great to have someone that genuinely cares about your
path as well, not just on that one particular show.
You know, you know, always is giving me advice on
this or that, or helping me with this or that,
(21:04):
or you know, and vice versa. Even really mainly women.
But I've I've given you relationship advice to you, but
I know you talked, You talked a lot about, you know,
the comparison to friends. During this time, there were a
(21:25):
lot of big shows, you know, there was obviously the
Big Bang Theory Girls was a thing, like a big,
big hit show, Two Broke Girls, How I'm at Your
Mother Happy End. He's all these shows, and to me
this was a it's kind of a golden era on
TV because all these shows are fantastic. All these shows
are great, not saying one's better than the other. But
(21:46):
what made New Girls stand out? What was in your opinion,
you know, having covered a lot of these shows, what
was what would you say was the difference between our
show or let's say you know, a Big Bang theory.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
I'll tell you exactly what it is because I was
reminded of this as I was watching it last night.
It is the honesty in which these characters were portrayed.
A lot of the times we saw Schmidt and Winston
and Nick as these like man children. We got to
see them be very vulnerable in ways that we hadn't
(22:21):
seen in a while. But it wasn't just pure silliness.
There was always truth at the very heart of it,
and that's what made it so interesting. And I think,
you know, Big Bang was a different show. It was
multi cam. You guys you know, obviously shot New Girl differently. Also,
you're dealing with people that the characters on Big Bang,
(22:45):
that a lot of them were socially stunted in a
way that you could say, there was still a lot
of social you know, social awkwardness on New Girl, but
it was a different kind. But the way in which
it was all portrayed, and the honesty in which you
guys all talked about relationships and career stuff in your worries,
(23:05):
we hadn't really seen that in a way that mixed
the emotion with the humor. Usually so many shows will
go just straight for the laugh, But you had to
care about these characters first, and that's what New Girl
did better than any other romantic comedy sitcom was that
(23:26):
you truly cared where these people would be, where they
would wind up, and what you all brought to it
was just again it's it's kind of boring to keep
saying over, but it's so true, like if anybody else
was doing these roles, it would not have clicked the
way that it did. You guys brought so much to it,
(23:46):
you know, in the performances, from the writing. So yeah,
it's I really do think New Girls stood out above
a lot of other shows that were popular at that
time because of the way in which these characters were written,
that you truly cared about their wellbeing in ways that
(24:07):
cared about certain other characters, but maybe not in that same,
that same, you know way.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yeah, you talk a lot about well not a lot,
but you spoke about Appointment TV and how it was
one of those shows that people would, you know, DVR,
they'd all gather around, they have watch parties, things like that.
But during the pandemic, we saw that streaming became a
thing where you could just kind of sit back and
binge it. And during that time, New Girl, along with
(24:36):
a few other shows, became It was almost there was
this resurgence as if the show were brand new to
a lot of folks. To this day, I get people
that you know in their early twenties that will say, hey,
you guys doing another season of New Girl, and they
genuinely mean it. They don't mean a reunion, they mean
is there another season?
Speaker 3 (24:56):
We love your Netflix show New Girl now Hulu sh
show New Girl. They think it's a brand new streaming
show that has not ended yet.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Exactly, well, I get it because you all look the
same too, which we're gonna I'm gonna need all of
your skincare routines because these great. Seriously, if you guys
look so much older, which is also like wonderful, you know,
I could understand. I could be like, Okay, what are
these people next looks older? I could understand why why
(25:27):
it would be a little weird if yours are like
when is the next season coming out? But you all
look the same, get out. I need your skincare routines
because you could put all of you back into this
show as if you hadn't, like no time has passed,
and I would believe that it was just what season eight?
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yeah, yeah, why not? I listened Jessica, you gotta, you gotta.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
What are you drinking over there?
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Both A good question.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Coffee?
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Coffee. Yeah, there's a lot of coffee. Maintained herself with coffee.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
It's been that way since New Girl. Actually, funny, funny thing,
I wasn't drinking coffee. Uh, prior to New I remember this,
I was not. And then these early call times, waking
up earlier, I was like, you know what, by by lunch,
I'm I'm legit passed out in my trailer, so tired,
so many coffees, and then people with people would go
have you had have you had espresso? I go, well,
(26:23):
what the f is that? You know? And then they
had the little machine in there, and so I just
kind of got used to making these cool, you know, frothy, weird,
you know lattes.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
That's actually a very good episode because there's so much
coffee talk that happened on our set. Where you got
your coffee, how you drink your coffee, what were the
rules around the coffee. Max was usually at the center
of it. He was like our big coffee fiend, who had, like,
not shockingly, but he had like a lot of rules
about how it was supposed to happen, and if not,
(26:54):
you were just like, you know, disgusting.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Oh my god. Wait, speaking of Max, do you want
to hear a funny story that I remember too? Into
all this I will never forget. I don't even know
how this happened, but it was season two, I believe.
I was told one day that I was going to
be taking a soul cycle class with Max Greenfield. I
was there viewing. Were you there for that?
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Chi, yes, I think it was for milk and bookies. Yes,
I was there.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
He called me an hour before and I raced over.
I know this because I think you took a picture
of Max and I and I looked so sweaty and
out of sorts because I'm not a workout person, and
he looked great because he loved to work out and
he was so happy with all the turnout and everything.
(27:47):
Oh my gosh, I remember this. Okay, sorry, continue.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
This is so no, this is so funny. Also, you
would look you look amazing just getting out of bed.
I'm sure. So I don't want to hear this like
you did, seriously, but oh stop the more.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
But no, you know what, actually I have to say
this in the morning. I'm proud of you for telling
the truth. We've talked about this. Stop lying to women.
Tell the truth. Okay, okay, oh my god. We're working
on these things in real life, Jessica, real life things.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
But I unders I understand. I understand this.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Okay, you can say it was like a monster in
the morning. It's okay. I can hear it. I can
take it. I can take it. I'm strong enough.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
It's okay, I love it. Oh my god. So anyways,
so I remember we were doing this, this interview with Max,
and they told us it was going to be on
camera for Glamour. We were recording it. I've never taken
a damn soul cycle class in my life. I'm mainly
like a treadmill or elliptical girl. I don't do soul cycle.
So I remember, I have my note cards in one
(28:48):
hand a microphone in the other, trying not to fall
off greens.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
I'm not even well, you did do it on the
bike during the class.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
So wait, well I didn't understand this part. This is
where I got crazy, is that they're like, we need
you to peddle and I was like, I'm sorry, what
you want me to actually work out with him while
interviewing him at the same time, And They're like, yeah,
that's the point of it. And I was just I mean,
that might have been me. That must have been the
equivalent of like rubbing your stomach, patting your head and
(29:19):
I don't know, trying to do leg lifts at the
same time. But I was just like, what am I
being asked to do? I nearly fell off of it.
I don't even know what I said to him, Like
it was just a mess because I thought I just
had to sit on the bike and do this interview.
I didn't know actually had to cycle, you know, And
I've never gone back that.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
That was also my only soul cycle class too. I
was like, this is so hard. I will say that
the music shows was bang, and I do remember I
was like, man, this is a DJ. This is some
good music.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Really, I blink. I just you know, I have no
memory anymore of anything else. I was like, this is
this is too much, this has taking it too a
I have a question for you guys. When during the pandemic,
when people started rewatching new girls, some for the very
(30:12):
first time. We didn't really we had Instagram in twenty twelve,
twenty eleven, but it wasn't what it is now. Did
you guys notice a huge uptick in followers or messages
in your social media over these last few years, because
now that's how you sign up?
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Blamor I feel like, didn't I help you? It was Hipstomatic.
It wasn't even Instagram. Remember, wasn't it called Hipstomatic?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Oh? I have no idea it was.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
And it was like a little polaroid looking camera. Was
that app That's what it looked like, Like, yeah, that's
some now, and it was I think it was called Hipsomatic,
and I think I don't know, but a few cast
members literally signed up in that first year year because
we were like, I guess we should get this to
maybe document and share, and no, we did not have
(31:07):
a lot of followers to pick in with.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
And then it just, oh yeah, it shot up for.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Sure, skyrocketed because we were sharing things from the show.
And this is before you could do stories or anything.
So it's just the grit, the picture.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Just a picture and a caption. Yeah, I remember. The
thing I remember about that moment was them saying that
we need you guys to get on social media, and
we need you to follow all these rules in order
to get verified.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Oh yeah, the verification process was intense.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
I was like, what do you mean, what does that mean?
Speaker 3 (31:40):
We know a guy? Someone like, well.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
It's me. How do we know it's because I'm telling
you it's me? Like, why do fans know it's you?
Speaker 3 (31:47):
To send in our driver's licenses? I think, to be
like to prove it was us to get verified.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Yeah, I remember to get the blue check get I mean,
wasn't that a big thing?
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Oh, such a big thing. And somebody he already had
my name, and I remember I had read some article
maybe it was in Glamor about how Kanye West couldn't
get his name either, and so he called his account
the real Kanye West. So I was like, oh, I
guess that's what you do if somebody has already taken
your name. And so that's why mine is still called
(32:20):
the real Hannah Simone. That's all yeah, that's all easy
fun fact Hannah Hannah Uneasy had a long term relationship,
that's why he gave her these. He confuses me for
Kim Kardashian ll more, it doesn't so he likes to
tell this story and that is not true. That was
not me. That is another woman that he married and
had children with. That is not me. We keep talking
(32:43):
about this, that's not true, not true. Oh my god,
I just learned that thing about Instagram through an article.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Listen. I think we all hit it off because Me, Hannah,
and Zoe all had banks.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
This is true, and that's why.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
That's what that's my theory.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
I think there is truth to it. We were all
babies with bangs trying to figure out this crazy industry.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
I know, lamarn when are you growing yours?
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Well, my hairline disagrees with me often, so sometimes it's normal.
Sometimes it's Lebron James, So I don't quite know what
it's doing. But I'm going to grow it out for
a role or something, and then I'm going to put
some dreadlocks that hang down here and then I'll bang
those up.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
So we're going to live as flashback Winston, Yes, in
your latter years.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Yeah, I'm okay with that.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
I'm okay with that too.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
By the way, Look, do you remember when we went
on a date Lamarne for Glamour for the On a
Date series and we went to this like Benny Hanna
type restaurant, and I put you in a chef's hatch
at the where they made Do you remember this?
Speaker 2 (33:48):
I remember it was off of Sunset, right, it.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Was off of Sunset. But also Hannah, this was the
craziest thing. So we had this series called on a
Date with and I would take guys on a like
faked and we would find out and ask them all
the questions that our readers would want to know. So,
since at the time, Lamourn and I lived like two
minutes away from each other, it's like, I'll pick you
up and we'll go to the restaurant. He kept me
(34:13):
waiting in the car for twenty minutes. I was so
I was so pissed heading into this fake date. I
was like, would you do this on a real date
where you were faking the girl late? Do you remember this?
Speaker 2 (34:25):
I don't remember being late, but if that, but that's it.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Oh he was late.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
It's kind of were you outside of my house?
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Uh huh?
Speaker 2 (34:32):
And you know I know what happened. I know exactly
what happened.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
I can oh, oh yes, please explain.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
I was filming. I was filming, filming what this charitable
thing where I was just giving back to the community
and the community needs Oh that's where because the community
needs to.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
That's where he's going to get us. Uh huh.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Yeah, And I was just being a hero, and I
can't be in two places at once. I've tried. I've
tried it.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Sometimes I can be literally praised you on this podcast
today for learning to not lie when you feel panicked.
Mm hmm, you see what's happening right now.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
No, I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Late he was playing basketball, that's what he was.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Probably also true, that's also you forgot.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Yeah, say, you're so lovable that I that I totally like.
You know, once you get in the car, it's like,
oh it's Lamorn, Like I just I love this guy,
like whatever. But yeah, but here you had to make
up this whole thing about how you were giving back
to the community. And that's why I was sitting in.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Which is also funny because no one gives back to
the community, probably actually more than you. You're the most
human ever.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
So that's what I'm saying. It was probably me. I
was probably passing out.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
It was not in this scenario. I'm going to sit
there and say, it's a fact I would know. Okay, Hannah,
I can see you lying eyes.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Wait, what's the best gift that you've ever received from
Lamar and Hannah?
Speaker 3 (35:52):
The gift of friendship?
Speaker 4 (35:54):
Joking, I was gonna say, I I.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Don't know, I I do know, Actually I do know.
Here's actually I will say this. He gave you something
I don't even know why. I really want to share
it was. It's pretty, it's private and very sweet. It
was for a family member. It was just like, he's
just so thoughtful. Lamourne is actually one of the most
thoughtful gift givers that I've ever met. But I will
(36:20):
say this is the greatest thing about being in a
friendship with Lamore and we've talked about this is lemarn
is the friend that shows up no matter what it is.
If you have a birthday party, you have a book launch,
if you whatever, having us dinner and your parents are
coming and you're just like, I'm gonnavite some friends. If
you invite Lamore and if he's not, you know, out
(36:40):
of the city, he will always show up, which is
like we that's like the opposite of me. It is
It's not true, No, it's the opposite of me. I
don't show up for anything. Which I feel like is
like that's a good way to roll. Like, if you're
not going to show up, you can't jump for anything.
Otherwise it looks like you're picking and choosing. But I'm
such an introverted house cat, I don't. I just don't
(37:01):
go out, so I'll be like I love you, but
you know I'm not coming, and they're like, love you.
We totally understand that about you, which is why we
make such a funny pair. But that's one of my
favorite things about Lamarn is that you know, if you
call him and say can you come, He's always like,
I got you, I'll be there.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
My bar mitzvah Hannah. Hannah was supposed to come and
do a song. She didn't show up for that either,
and she did paid. She had been paid my conver
what's the Jewish word for, like grandma, baba, nana?
Speaker 1 (37:35):
My nana is Kyle answering you Yeah, Kyle no, Yeah, he.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Knows, but he's pretending he doesn't because he's also a Cuban,
so he's like trying to get me. Cuban likes my nana.
My bubba, was that a thing?
Speaker 1 (37:48):
My nana Bubby?
Speaker 2 (37:49):
My bubby paid Hannah forty five thousand dollars to show
up to my bar Mitzvah and Hannah did not show up. Hanna,
you want to.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Explain private show. It's a different thing.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
You realize, you guys could take this act on the road.
You should go to bar and bot Mitzvahz all over
the country, especially since these young thirteen year olds are
watching New Girl. Now onto the comebec and the COBC.
You guys should just go. You could make so much
money this way.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Really well, I'm there, but were justhired to manage it.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
I don't know what just happened, but Jessica, you're hired.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
If you could on the Bart's that's.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
What we'll do. We'll go on a tour around America
and uh, I'll just let you guys run loose it all.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
What happened at Bar Mitzvaz. This is what's happening. We
figured it out. When everyone's like, is there a reunion,
We'll be like, we're busy.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Jessica, you want to go on tour with us?
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Yes, and then I'll write the book with you guys
in between the bar and bot Mitz for celebration.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
By the way, this is not a terrible idea that
we go on tour and do this live and Jessica
you come along with us. I'm very into.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
I like this. Yes, and then Lamar is gonna make
girl cheese sandwiches for us too. I like to see
him tranned all of this.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
We're you guys trying to get paid.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Wait, did you also ever wear the backpack that Zoe
gave you?
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Yes? I used to travel sparkly one. I used to
travel with it.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Did you really do you good?
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Hand me down for Lily? But it's a sparkly backpack.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Yeah, I'm still I'm a Lebron fan. That pillow over there,
I'm a Lebron fan. Like people think this is a joke,
there's not.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
It's not you love you are obsessed with him, Lebron
and Beyonce.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Yeah, Beyonce. Beyonce has since like written a letter telling
me to like stop contacting her and this is illegal.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
And I was like, all right, what is on that pillow?
Oh jesus, it's Lebron.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Bron James hear that just in case.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Actually it's a little scary. It looks like a potato
you drew on, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
It looked like Wayne Brady for a while.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Do you keep that out when girls come over?
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Yeah, I got to get them excited somehow.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Yes, yeah, we're going to do a walk through of
the house and just wow, okay.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
They see Lebrun and they go ooh what I got
surprise it's me And they go, oh, I guess, I
guess cool?
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Oh my god. Is this what you expected, Jessica when
you got to hang out with us today.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
I honestly had no expectations. This is the right move,
no expectations off the wall. That's wait, what would you wait?
I want to play interviewer for a second, and I'm
very curious knowing what you all do. Now, what would
you go back and tell yourselves at the beginning of
your first day on set.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
I would tell myself that you're not going to get fired,
so be bold, facts, be big, and be weird starting
day one.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Yeah, that's true. Facts. I think it's so funny. So
many people tell you that from the beginning. Oh, I
know this person who joined the show or joined a
show and then they got fired after the first season.
And so you really are just trying to not screw
up so deeply that it almost inhibits you. And as
(41:11):
we've been doing this rewatch, we kind of watch ourselves
and go, like, man, I wish I'd leaned into that more.
I wish I had gotten a little weirder in this thing.
But that's what the that's what's missing I feel like
now in TV is a lot of shows aren't given
the gifts of time to figure it out. And so
New Girl, I mean, yeah, it came out hot, and
(41:32):
that first season is amazing, and we got better and
better and better just because we as actors could feel
more comfortable and then we knew that we were solid
in our jobs and that all of a sudden gave
us massive freedom. It also led our real life friendships
like deepen, which means we had so much more trust
(41:55):
and like knowing what the other person was going to do.
And I feel like that that's what's really just changed
in the state of television is that a lot of
shows aren't given the gift of.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Time right when they film a whole season at once
before it comes out, right, they don't get that privilege. Yeah,
and I feed bet to watch it somewhat in real time. Yeah,
you know, yeah, I'm curious so too, because as I
noticed in rewatching things, the dialogue was so fast paced,
(42:24):
and you guys, you had to keep up with it
because that's how these scenes worked so well. How did
you memorize your lines? How hard was that for you?
Did you have any tricks?
Speaker 2 (42:35):
For me? Mine is just my mnemonic device, is just repetition.
That's what it would be. It was. I would sit
down with a friend of mine and we would just
go over it and go over it, go over it.
And I would only do that the night before, so
I wouldn't spend so many yeah the night before and
I would just get it. So I was just off
(42:57):
book that I would run it without the script one
time if I can land, if you to land it
verbatim one time without the script. I stop right there
and then I don't look at it again until we
rehearse the next morning, because I wanted to feel somewhat fresh,
and I want it. I don't want to leave room
for improv because we improvise a lot on the show,
(43:19):
so I want to leave room where I'm not so
glued to the words. Also, because Liz changes things on
the fly and you get there sometimes day of the
pages are slightly different.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
And it's harder to unmemorize once it's locked in your
brain and they change three words. That's actually I find trickier.
Oh yeah, well, then to sit there and just to
learn it fresh. I do remember many times sitting in
the hair and makeup chairs next to each other, running
lines with each other, just to help each other out,
even if it wasn't in your scene or whatever, Could
you just help me? Or going into Lamorn's trailer because
(43:51):
we shared like a double trailer, so I'd go onto
his side and running lines if we needed to it
was for a baker scene. I do that we were
all very hot full with each other. We all really
were team show, and that I think is what was
really helpful. We also knew that there was a lot
of dialogue and fast dialogue and it would change, so
we gave each other I think, like a lot of
(44:11):
help and a lot of grace around it to find
it because things would change so often. So that was
really nice. There wasn't a lot of impatience within the cast.
I think if it took you a second to figure
it out or to remember it, we had each other's
backs in a real way when it came to like
learning lines or like pitching each other jokes for improv
(44:34):
telling people what could be funny to try it out.
That was also really nice. It was super supportive that way.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Oh yeah, so it made it easy. There was no
pressure to be off book. The only person I would
say who had somewhat that amount of pressure was Max Greenfield,
because the Schmidt character had a lot of big monologues
with specific words and things that were only directly related
to Schmidt. So you know, a lot of us would
(45:01):
have a lot of overlap with isms and things that
we would say, but schmidt dialogue was very specific to
him and no one else would speak that way. So
he had to he would have to be off book
and he would improvise a lot too, But a lot
of it for him, I would say, most of it
was him having to be word perfect with some of
(45:22):
these minds.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
Like all the Romney children. I remember that he had
to like list all of them, and I remember him
getting so frustrated because it's not something that yeah, you
can improv around. You had to know it and say
it super fast, couched in all this other dialogue and
story that you had to give. He really, I mean, yeah,
so that was But then that's where the rest of
(45:44):
us have to just there be like patient and supportive
and given the time and space to get there, because
he probably got handed that the night before or the
morning of, and it's a lot to get stuck in
your brain. So I mean, that's just a credit to him.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
And to watch him get frustrated when he didn't was
still to this day is still one of my favorite
things to witness because when Max gets frustrated off of
his own dialogue.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
Yeah, just still go, he'll screw up his life. Let
him work through it. Just let him work through it,
get to the other side.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
He will just look at it. He will just look
at the floor and go, damn it, Max, damn it Max.
He's so upset with himself. But it was such a
loose and fun set that there was no pressure in it.
He was Max is like, you know, he's Mac, He's
a Schmid. It's one of the best TV characters of
(46:35):
all time. But so so it's great to see that
he took it seriously. But we were all just having fun.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
At family too, right, you know what I mean, he's
getting annoyed at himself. Everybody, just give him a second.
He'll be fine again. The gift of time. That's what
I always talk about with New Girl. I feel like
that was one of the greatest things. They just let
us people have favorite seasons, stronger seasons, stronger episodes, and
we just knew that, like our life didn't hang in
(47:02):
the balance with it. We just kind of knew that
we were gonna keep going. And that is why, like
the fandom and the journalists that supported us and kept
like giving all this information and behind the scenes stories
to the fans is really like the foundation of this show.
Because without that support and the cry for more episodes
(47:23):
and the cliffhangers and people just writing throughout the summer,
what's kind of happened next? What does season three look like?
That's how we knew we could have that job security.
So so much of it is in people like you.
So thanks Jessica, Thank you for appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
I appreciate you, guys, I truly do love you both
so much. The others you.
Speaker 4 (47:46):
Know, it's I'm kidding, but no, there's always been materiously,
there's always been something so special about the two of you,
but all of you too, because yeah, we did all
I'll come up together, I feel like, and it was
just it was so fun.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Also, this show is the perfect audience for Glamour like
it just like it was. Everything that we covered, was
everything that we talked about, and it was just so
nice to see it play out in such a fun
but also heartfelt way. Right, that's what people want, you know.
So I'm glad that people watch it now on Hulu,
(48:25):
and I do want there to be another season because
you guys haven't aged, so, you know, really.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Just saying I'm still twenty seven. So oh okay, so
thank you. I just you know, life, am I right?
Speaker 1 (48:39):
I mean, Ferguson probably looks his age now, you know,
the little gray cat crawling through that's what it'll be.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
Well, Jessica, thank you, thank you very much, very very
much self for being here. That's the show, folks. So
go to our website, check out our merch You can
follow us on Instagram, the Message Round Pod. If you
have a question you want to leave us a voicemail,
et cetera, et cetera, feel free to email us at
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you want to, you know, perhaps go on a lovely
(49:11):
date with myself or Jessica, can.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
I give out your number? Now?
Speaker 2 (49:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (49:17):
Okay, let me, let me pull it up six five
six eight.
Speaker 4 (49:25):
Zero one tip text it mourn at your service.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
That was the mess around. This has been an iHeartMedia production.
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