August 3, 2025 • 46 mins
Our Bachelor Nation OG Bob Guiney spends a lot of time with Trista Sutter, but now he’s ready to catch up with her better half, Bob's former Bachelorette competition, Ryan Sutter!
Ryan and Bob share some memories that probably should have stayed secret from their time as roommates during Trista’s season. Ryan and Bob reminisce about their mansion days, and the guys bond over their next chapter as fathers.
Plus, find out what strategy led Ryan and Trista to winning the Almost Famous Pickleball Tournament in Lake Tahoe!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Almost Famous podcast with iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hi everybody, welcome back to the Almost Famous OG podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
I am Bob Guiney.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Today I'm without my co host Trista Sutter Nay Wren,
but I am telling you we are having a good
time here in Lake Tahoe. We are at the Lake
Tahoe House and we have been having a very very
fun week. I was gonna say a weekend, but it's
a Wednesday, right, Yeah, Today's Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
So it's been a very fun week a couple of days.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
So we are podcasting from the Verbo Summer House in
Lake Tahoe. Procrastinators rejoice. The early bird is not the
only one who gets the worm. Verbal offers last minute
deals for private vacation rentals, and we scored a sweetheart deal.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Here in Lake Tahoe. We're having so much fun, and.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Today I am super fired up because my next guest,
or my guest here on the next hour of the
Almost Famous OGS is my buddy Ryan Sutter. And many
of you may not know, but Ryan does not grant
many of these interviews. It's tough to get them, tough
to nail him down. He's a busy, busy man. But
he was willing to come and hang out with me
and talk with me, which I love. Ryan is my
(01:06):
oldest and dearest friend from this whole Bachelor Shenanigan's franchise
that started so many years ago and has basically ridden
the atrista Ryan Coat Trail Coat Tails all the way
to twenty three years later. Yes, I mean it really
has right, it's pretty spectacular. A lot of people don't
know this, but Ryan and I were in the same
bunk area and our incredible mansion there in Malibu.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Somewhere that I've never been able to find.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
When all the guys moved into the mansion and we
had a lot of fun in that house.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Man, that was a very good time.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
It was a great time.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah, I mean, what.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Are you what are some of your first memories of
when I mean, I know you probably recapped that night,
the first night many times, getting out the limo and
everything else, But what are the when we moved into
that mansion that next morning and it was kind of like,
what is going on? And you looked around that room?
What were you thinking?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Oh gosh, I don't like it's all it's all kind
of a blur. I don't know. If it's a blur
or I've just gotten so old that like I've forgotten.
But somewhere in between those two things, I honestly remember
it being a really positive experience too. I feel like
we always had a really good time. And in fact,
I always tell people like we would get the card
(02:16):
to go on a date and there would be some
level of excitement because you're going with Trista and some
level of disappointment because you were leaving all of these
like hanging out with So it was it was, I
think different than it is today where really everyone got along.
I think I told I told you this when we
were hanging out just a few days ago that people
(02:38):
want to know who you got, Like where was the
conflict and where was all this stuff happening? And I'm like,
I literally liked every single person on that show, and
we had a great time, and it was like we
were in this big fraternity house. Yeah, just throwing parties
and you know remember when we took Jack's bed outside
all this stuff was it was just super fun.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
And then you know, obviously it got serious as guys
sort of started to go away, right, and then it
became way more focused on on Trista. But the initial
whatever that was weak or two was super fun.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
It was Man, I remember it so well too. It's
like that that was and it really set the bar,
you know. I think it was obviously, you know, the
most successful season probably ever of the show. And I
think it's kind of interesting because they, I think wanted
or expected conflict amongst us, and they just didn't get
it no matter how hard they tried. And I was
(03:33):
telling the story the other night about getting pulled out
of the hot tub and being told, you know, hey,
stop trying to coach people on not talking smack when
the cameras. I'm like, look, dude, I'm from Detroit, Like
I don't know, we even know what the hell I'm
doing here. And if I go, if I'm nice this
person's face and that's on camera, then I'm stabbing in
the back. I'm gonna get so much greef from my friends.
I'm not doing it. But everybody was. We were all
(03:54):
like that, and I knew, like I knew if I'm
sitting there on camera and they would say, well so
and so said this about you. And I remember to
this day Jason Carbone going, Ginny, just take the bait
once in a while. I'm like, no, I know he
didn't say that. I know he wouldn't say that we're buddies.
I'm like, you guys are gonna get me say anything.
And it was so funny because we were kind of
(04:14):
in this experimental pod. They never had a bunch of
dudes living in a house together up until that point,
and we were the first run.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
And we did like you said it best. It was
a frat hoouse. We'd party.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
We'd grant our buddy Jack, he's a firefighter from Cleveland.
We took his he went to sleep early, poor dude,
biggest mistake he ever made in his life. We'd take
his entire bed and put it in the yard. The
sprinklers come on.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
He's getting suck.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I mean, you know, just doing dumb, fun stuff that
guys do to bond. We talked about doing our Sentry
Club thing where we did a one hundred shots of
beer and a hundred minutes. And Trista comes home from
her date and she's looking around the house and it's
in shambles. I'm on the roof with an apron, sweeping
cans under the ground. Jamie Blythe is eating dog food
out of the bag.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Yeah, I mean I passed out on my bed and
she came in and like rubbed my back. Yeah, And
I woke up like embarrassed that I was the one
that had passed out from the hundred shots of beer.
Not a big drinker, one hundred chots of beers, a
lot of it, a lot of beer, and so, oh
my god, I'm so sorry. I'm just really drunk.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
And she's she was like, no big deal.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Obviously she forgave me.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
But yeah, yeah, she clearly forgive you. I remember so
many things in that show.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I mean, it was a really fun experience because, like
I said, I don't think many of us or any
of us knew what we were getting ourselves into. It
wasn't like there had been another season for us to
watch and take cliff notes, you know. And so we
came in and we kind of made it whatever we
wanted to make it. And I was telling this story
earlier about the producers came to me one day at
the first day we're there and they're like, so, uh,
(05:44):
and I don't know how I got selected, Like, what
do you think everyone's gonna want to eat today?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I'm like, well, I think we're gonna want Mexican and uh,
Marguerita machine would be cool.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Maybe some Tito's. At the time, it was a great
goose for me. I'm like, some great goose. Maybe fourteen
a half gallons of vodka, maybe one taco. We'll split it.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
We'll be fine. But I remember, it was just such
a different world.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
And and you're right about the date cards, because I
do recall. I was never mad when I didn't get
a date card. I was so excited for the guys
that did. And then when I was on a date card,
I was excited to go, but I was also bummed
I wasn't be hanging out with my buddies, you know.
And it was genuinely that you described it best.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I mean, that was a real feeling.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Yeah, no, And I think it Actually it's interesting having
talked to you after all of these years and found
out your path to the show was very similar to mine,
and that neither of us really wanted to go on
the show initially, or didn't believe the show was real,
or thought we would be right for the show. And
I almost wonder if that played in our favor somehow,
(06:50):
like the production team or the casting producers were like, well,
these guys they don't want to be on the show,
we need to get them on them.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
They thought it was a play, so they just kept.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
They were persistent with us, which worked out for us.
And then I always tell people, had you not ended
up on the show, I don't think I would have
ended up lasting as long as I did.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
That.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Man, Well, it's true, like you mentioned that they come
came to you for menu suggestions and things like that,
but I was fortunate enough to get a lot of
group dates with you, and your personality is one hundred
and eighty degrees from mine, and so I could ride
your sort of like you you just sort of carried
the day and I could sort of just ride in
(07:32):
your wake. And then I could have the time that
I had with Trista, where I'm okay in that sort
of situation, but in a group type of like I
don't entertain people, and I don't tell stories and jokes,
and I can't sing and all these things that you
can do. So it was awesome to have you there
to do all of that heavy lifting, which I think
allowed me to just sort of be myself. And then
(07:52):
that is eventually what Trista ended up falling for and
ended up working out for me. I owe a lot
of just getting to that point to you. And it's
it's true. I've told people that from the very beginning.
It just the way it all worked out for me
was really fortunate because I just like things just lined
(08:13):
up well for me. Yeah, I didn't have to do
a lot of that work myself. I could just be
myself on that show. And that's really all I know
how to be.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
So and that's what she was looking for for someone
to yeah, be excuse me, to be genuine and be
someone who was really and and the one thing I
remember about you right out of the gates and it
was like, I mean we had a fast friendship obviously,
but I remember I remember being on a group date
and I remember saying to Trista. I mean I think
(08:42):
she remembers this because I remember saying this. I was like, so,
you know, are you getting along great with everybody? Yeah,
I'm gettng with it. I'd be like, you know, Ryan
is like he's writing poetry, he is spending time, and
I was like, I was like your wingman, and I'm
like still technically supposed to be trying to date her,
right yeah, but I but she and I we were
friends right out of the gate, and it was like
(09:04):
and I and I and I knew that and of
course she's beautiful, and of course, you know, but it
was like we had this great friendship and I was
watching your relationship progress in a way that mine wasn't.
And I remember it was more one of those things
where I was like, it's got to be one of
the guys here, and in my opinion, it's got to
be him, you know.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
And I felt that way very early on.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
And I remember thinking to myself, like it was never
a competitive environment for the guys. We were never like
looking at each other like, oh, that dude sucks, you know.
It was always like I remember, Russ was the only
guy that we all were kind of like, you know,
what's up with Russ? And the reason why was because
he showed up with a gift from Tiffany's on night
one and none of us thought of it.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
He was just smarter than us.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
And we were we were a little irritated with that dude.
But other than that, you know, And but thank you,
that's a really sweet thing.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Of you to say.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
And I and I've always loved our friendship because I
feel like there's a several that have kind of you know,
permeated the show, and and and over the years have
continued to stay intact. And we don't talk much, you know,
and Jamie blythe I don't talk much with Jamie anymore,
but we still when we talk.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
We pick right up where we left off, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
And it's like the things about that, you know, Jack,
even Jack like Jack's son played football and he was
he was on the recruiting list for Michigan State. And
I was able to kind of look into that a
little bit and see, you know, are they going to
grab him?
Speaker 1 (10:20):
You know?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
And you know, I've stayed in touch with him.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
It's kind of interesting.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I randomly will get a strange message from Charlie, sure,
but I mean not very often, but he'll be like, hey, man,
I'm just thinking about you. I hope you're doing great,
you know. And uh, And so it's always been kind
of interesting. There's there's some no I have never heard
from since the day the show ended, you know, like
like Greg.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Who was one of the hometowns. Have you ever heard
from anything?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
No, It's such a unique guy and talented guy too.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Erry talented guy.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Yeah, physician and right, Yeah, that's funny when when you
were talking about you talking to Trista and us sharing
things like I remember when I wrote the poem that
I eventually read to her. I think it did or
not Disney Sea World, and then it turned into a
song at our wedding, which was amazing. I asked you
(11:09):
about it. I was like hey, and I just felt
super comfortable with you. I'm like, hey, I know, I
know we're trying to get the same girl here, but
what do you think of this poem that I wrote,
like in and you were super honest with it. You
read it and gave me your opinion, and I think
it's just it just I think is testament to your
(11:30):
character that you could separate the fact that we were
And I hate the word like competing for a girl.
I also hate the world like word like or the
concept of like I won this, like I somehow won
a wife right out of this thing. I just feel
like it's weird.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Like a process.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Oh, you won the you won the Batcheorette, good job,
was a wife? I knocked down the most up things.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Yeah, it's and it's just I feel lucky and even
when we're talking. This morning, I came in to get
dressed or whatever, and I was like, you know, Bob
and I, despite the fact that our personalities are probably
one hundred and eighty degrees different, are very similar people
like I think we have a lot of similarities. We do,
and I think that's probably why we've been able to
(12:16):
get along so well. And truthfully, when I get invited
to these maybe I shouldn't say this on iHeart, but
I'm always like, it was Bob going to be there,
because if he's going to be there, then I'll go.
Otherwise I don't know most of the other people, and
so I'm more reluctant to go. But I always enjoy
(12:37):
catching up with you, whether it's with a microphone in
my face or at the pool in the morning drinking coffee.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Always this morning I was, yeah, I mean for everyone listening.
So this morning was an interesting morning. My son face
timed me at what would have been four thirty in
the morning here to tell me he was so excited
to go to camp and everything, and my luggage still
hadn't arrived. Damn you a Delta, But Delta, they're my oline.
I love them, but I kind of use that as
(13:04):
my motivation. I was like, Okay, I'm awake, I'm just
gonna go right And so I was calling Delta on
the way there, and I was just bound and determined
to get my bag. And then I got back and
it was still super early, and I did have my suitcase, thankfully,
and you and I just had a chance, just the
two of us to sit out there and talk for
about an hour. And and I loved it too, you know,
like I loved actually realizing how much we have in
common with a lot of that stuff, because a lot
(13:25):
of times we don't even get the opportunity to really
download with each other. We're just like, oh, hey, what's up, buddy,
how you been Okay, great, Well, I'm gonna do this podcast.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I'll see you later.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Then we're at dinner with four hundred people and we're
not talking to anybody.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Anyway, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
And so I appreciated that too, And I loved that too.
You Actually, you and my wife Jessica have a lot
of similarities in how you like are with crowds. You know,
(13:57):
like she's great, she loves talking people, she loves but
she loves in a more of a one on one situation.
She gets a little intimidated when there's more people, and
and so that's kind of where I stepped in and
be like, hey, I got this, you know. But but
I do remember when we were talking about your poem,
and I remember thinking to myself that that was really
a huge moment for me, because I remember thinking, he's
(14:19):
sitting here spending time writing poetry and I'm out there
trying to get guys to do twenty shots of beer, Like.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
What the hell's the difference here?
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Right? But you're and you were at this different place
that I don't know that I was capable of getting
to with anyone at that place, you know what I mean.
It could have been Trista, It could have been my
wife now, it could have been can, It could have anybody.
I just don't think I was prepared emotionally for that journey.
And you were there, and you were there because it
(14:45):
was her, Yeah, because I don't think. I don't think
you would have been there if it wasn't her, But
because it was her, you allowed yourself to go there.
You have that you're such a sincere person and you
just don't care about all the other bs. And it's
all I've always said that about you like the guy
from was that People magazine? Who was that guy that
was here today?
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:02):
So I was saying to that guy today. He was like,
you know, so what do you think about all of this stuff?
You know, I'm like, that's the house that Tristan Ryan belt.
I'm like, it really is. I mean because the Bachelor franchise,
you know, that was so early in that whole thing.
They had zero success so far, sure had it not
been for the two of you. And then the televised wedding,
which you know a little known fact, and I remember
this Oprah was was was the one who wanted to
(15:25):
do the wedding, and then ABC was like all of
a sudden, like, oh no, We're going to televise a wedding,
you know, And I remember that being a thing. I
was like, oh my god, this is amazing. It like
a bidding word for the wedding. But of course, you
know that was it was. It was just a really
cool moment, and it was like you know that I
remember the wedding was so next level stuff and you
(15:45):
guys handled it, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
And yeah that was all Trista. I mean, so much
of this is her. She's been the sort of face
of that bachelorette franchise for a while. I mean, there
have been so many good bachelorettes. Yeah, for her to
sort of be the first one, you know, I got.
I just took this promotional test and we had to
in for the fire service, and we always we've always
(16:07):
focused on leadership, and someone told me that leadership isn't
about getting followers, it's about going first. And I always
really liked that. I was like, oh, you know, that's
kind of what she did in this case, because she
took a ton of criticism and heat and it wasn't
as bad as it is now where it's there. The
social media world was not nearly what it is.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
There was chat rooms back then, right, yeah, and she
couldn't stay off of theme, and I was like, just
don't go on them, because you would be want there'll
be one hundred nice things, and that one because because
I made the mistake of going in there a few
times too, and there would be one hundred nice things,
and that one person sitting behind a laptop saying something
mean and that was sticking your head for weeks and
make you second guess everything.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah, you know, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
It was horrible and so so yeah for her to
do that, to take on this challenge, and then the
wedding was a whole another spectacle that both of us
just sort of so it seemed like it was going
to happen obviously, and so we both just said, all right,
this probably isn't how we dreamt our wedding to be,
(17:12):
but let's make the most of this. And it turned
out awesome, Like we had a great time. We just
sort of let it happen. And there were bumps in
the road obviously, like I think there probably are for
everyone's ding, sure, And so it was it was everything
she could have imagined with all of the people like
Mark's garden play riding like eight bazillion flowers, and all
(17:34):
our friends were there, the guys from the firehouse were there,
and nobody had to drive home and it just was
a super fun weekend turned out too. It was awesome. Yeah,
it was really awesome. So that I mean, again another
like snippet from our conversations off the air, like it
it was, but it was so long ago that I
don't even really relate it to my life anymore, Like
(17:57):
it was just like a totally different time where with
like the helicopters flying over and all of that sort
of press that followed that. That process of getting married
seems like it didn't even ever happen. All I really
remember is just getting married and now having this great
family that we have and all this life that we've
(18:18):
built from that moment. But that's been the blessing of
the Bachelor for me. Trist has been able to stay
relatively connected with it for well, since she was on it, yeah,
or we were on it. I've been sort of intentionally
removed from it, and it's worked out really well for
both of us. Like it's just been the ideal sort
(18:38):
of life for us, and it's it's we're we are
super grateful for it and super fortunate. We feel super
fortunate for all the friendships that we've had and the
experiences that we've gotten to take advantage of because of it.
We got we got to live like the lifestyle of
the rich and famous there for a little while, and
then we got to go back to normal life. And
(19:01):
I think that's the blessing that a lot of people
either don't get to have. They just never get to
go back to normal life, or they go back to
normal life, but they still really wish they were rich
and famous, right, And that's a tough battle to fight.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Also, that's an internal battle for that.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Yeah, and we're just fortunate enough to be sort of
found this kind of really great middle ground and are
existing within that. And it's been, I mean, knock on
what it's been great and hopefully continues to be.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Absolutely no, I think you put it perfectly. I often
say that when people will say, you know, why we're
Tristan and Ryan so successful and these other couples can't
make it. And I do think a lot of it
has to do with making the decision to move and
go back to Colorado.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
You never quit your day job, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
I know you changed some things a few different times,
but you've always stayed true to who you are. And
Trista embrace that too, you know what I mean. And
so yeah, she still of course, you know, dabbles here
and there and does the things that she can do,
and of course the podcast that we do together and
everything else. But I think for the most part, it
was like I can I can move to la like
(20:08):
everybody else does, you know, and see if I can
become you know, the new Ben Affleck and the new
you know, Jennifer Lopez or I can go home and
I'll take what comes when it comes. And you know,
I actually went through that after the show too, because
there was just all these opportunities and but I had
to make a decision. I was like, I'm never going
to quit my day job because my fear was and
(20:31):
this was this was really something I kept waiting for
the other shoot to drop. I'm like, I'm not gonna
be flavor of the Month forever, and they're going to
find a cheaper, funnier, younger, better looking version to me
in the next Bachelor, and you.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Know, and and they did.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Jesse Palmer came along, you know, and all of a sudden,
I'm like, wait a minute, he's already in a broadcaster,
you know, creat like a guy.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Quarterback, and he actually started no.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
It was like they you know, but I just kept thinking,
like so, I'm like, if I don't put all my
eggs in that basket, then I can be happy, you know.
And it took time for me to find the right person.
But once I finally didn't, you know, we've got a
family of our own and everything else, It's like, you
can still You're right, you can still kind of have
both worlds coexisting, but you've got to make the decision
on which side of that fence you want to be on. Yeah,
(21:15):
and I think that the younger people now, with all
the social media opportunities and things like that that didn't
exist when we were on the show, probably find it
harder to decide what's more important. Yeah, you know, because
they wanted the fame part of it. We didn't know
that that was going to be a byproduct of what
we were doing.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
We didn't know what we were doing.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
I specifically remember when you sat in there with a
psychologist or psychiatrist, I can't remember which one she was.
She said, this is going to affect your life for
probably up to three months, so just be ready for
that impact. And it's been twenty something years and it's
still sort of impacting. And the first several years were
like you like, it was a major impact on your life. Yeah,
(21:57):
to be on Like to be in the grocery store
with the guys getting groceries for the shift and there's
you and your wife on People magazine. Yeah, this is weird.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
It is weird.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
That was actually a because I mean, I don't think
we don't see the magazines like we used to write.
But I remember that was a big thing for me
because I was I'd be at the grocery store and my.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Mom loved it, right, So my mom would walk up.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
My mom would be in like the chicken section and
be like, Bobby, this woman's a huge fan of yours.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
I'm like, how does she know?
Speaker 2 (22:25):
What do you?
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Mom? Are you walking up going?
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Are you gonna go chicken breast or thighs? That my
son's Bob Guinea's over there? Like how is how does
this person even know I'm here? I walked Bastard twenty times.
She didn't recognize me. But I remember like seeing especially
when things like when Nostella and I were splitting up,
and I remember seeing the cover of the magazine with
the rip down the middle and it was like, you know,
And I remember calling the executive editor US Weekly and
I was.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Like, why would you do that? Yeah, you're my friend,
Like why would you She's like, well, no, it was
just we just did it to you know sell.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
You know, I'm like, that hurts my feelings, like, you know,
I'm not getting paid millions of dollars. I guess in
my mind that would have been okay to take a
pot shot, but why.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Did you do that to me? Like I'm the normal guy,
you know.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
So I remember that that did change life for a while,
and that had to be really tough for you because
you went right back to the firehouse.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Yeah, it was fine until the show started airing, and
then I had to take six months off of the
firehouse because people would pull fire alarms and people would kidding,
would take be taking pictures while you're on medical calls,
and it was a huge distraction. Yeah, So the fire
chief suggested that I take six months off, and he
was right, and so that was when we planned our
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wedding and it ended up working out great. Yeah, but
but yes, hugely impactful there for a while. And you're
just when you're just constantly taking pictures and constantly sort
of and there was a great there was a good
side of it too, like we got to do a
kind of ton of really cool events and like I said,
we got to live in this really sweet cabin and
on Veil Mountain for a while. So there were there
(23:51):
were definitely some benefits to it, but it was an
adjustment just to try to find some privacy in your life.
And yeah, and you know, always being nice. Like both
Tristan and I realized the only reason why people wanted
to take pictures was they we they enjoyed the experience.
And we heard a ton of really positive like I
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watched this with my right after I had my child
in the hospital, or I watched it as my mom
like she was passing away or something like that, all
of these stories that are really touching, and.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Yeah, so you can't ignore them when they're talking to you.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
You know, you're listen. The only reason why we're able
to enjoy the things we're doing are because of these
people who all they want is a picture.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Yeah that takes two seconds.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Yeah, like, we'll do that. And so we've always felt
that way, and we've we were blessed with a positive,
a mostly positive impression coming off of that show. So
people have always been super supportive and nice, and that's
been easy to handle.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Yeah, yeah, you're absolutely right, cause I'm sure I used
to hear stories about like guys like you know, I
don't know if they were the villains of the season
or something like that, but they would go into a
and people would mess with them and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
That just never happened to me.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
You know, I think I got the sun kissed of
being on the season with the two of you and
you two finding love, and then my season people seem
to like And it wasn't successful from a relationship perspective,
but it was successful from the standpoint of I was
nice to everybody, they were.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Nice to me, and there was no scandal. It was like,
you know, that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
So it was easy to come off of a good
at it like that, you know, as opposed to perhaps
one of the others. But well, I love I know
that this isn't something you love to do with these
kind of stuff, but I love that you're here. I
love that you're willing to do this with me. We
are also here, of course, for a pickleball tournament, and
I will tell you I had an early pick. I thought,
(25:41):
you know, well, let's see, I think Trista suggested this.
She's like, yeah, we should do the iHeartRadio Pickleball tournament.
And I'm like, clearly someone has played pickleball, right, because
I wouldn't necessarily suggest something I didn't know how to do.
So I told Kenyon, I'm like, Canyon, I think I
think the Sutters are going to be pretty good. I'm like,
first of all, Ryan's the best athlete I know. Secondly,
Trista suggest us at this, so I have a feeling
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they're coming in strong.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
We need to practice. We've never done this before.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
So two weeks ago at our at our family's lake house,
we got like our friend has like a basketball court.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
We put the net over the thing and we're in there.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
She everyone's trying to teach us the rules, and I
was just I didn't understand the kitchen because they didn't
have that kind of layout, so I didn't even know
what they were talking about. And then the bouncing of
the ball, letting it bounce twice was the hardest part
for me, like remember to do that?
Speaker 1 (26:27):
But I felt like we got we got pretty good.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
So then we get out here and uh, you know,
we had some stiff competition. However, I think it's important
that we let people know. Well, first of all, who was.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
All right?
Speaker 2 (26:41):
You are the champions. Trista and Ryan Sutter won the
Pick a Ball Championship. First and foremost, congratulations, you were
a worthy competitor. I was very appreciative that during our
matches you were coaching us on how to play the game,
which was super nice, like up Bob the next time,
you know, rushing that when you're not serving, And that
was awesome because as we end up having to play
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each other twice, yes, yeah, and the first time I
think we almost got shut out. I think it was
eleven to one, and the second time a much better,
much improved game, much closer eleven to three, but still
it was.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Much closer than the score indicase.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Yeah, well you guys when you guys got on a
heater serving and it was just like sheeeze, pets, we can't.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
But who would you say from the standpoint of like
watching everybody play, Because I expected I expected Golden Gary
to be pretty good. Yeah, and he brought his own rackets,
his own paddles. I guess you'd call him. I'm like
anybody who's traveling with paddles. That dude's serious, right, He
had special shoes.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Court shoes, yep, tort shoes.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Who were you expecting to be tough competition and who
were you surprised by?
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Well, if I'm being honest, I wasn't really totally sure
who all was coming to this.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
Thing, so I don't really know who I was expecting
to be good. But when we got there, Gary was
one I knew you would be good. Yeah, I thought
Ben would be pretty good.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Yep. I didn't realize he had had bue need that. Yeah,
I didn't it a little bit. Yeah, Deanna was Dianna
was probably the one that surprised me the most because
she had never played and we played her. I want
to say, we played them first, Ben and her, and
she was hitting the ball over the place. And then
by the end of it, kind of like you and Canyon,
(28:20):
Like the the improvement was was noticeable, right like you guys,
you figured it out really quickly and became pretty proficient,
Like within a few games.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I thought Deanna easily wins the award for me for
funniest funniest player. Oh you know, like every time she'd serve,
she was doing like the Serena really was like that ah.
And then she'd when she hit the ball, it would
either be a grunt or she'd just yell the worst
cuss word you've ever heard in your life.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
And I was like, it would.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Make you laugh and you couldn't even return the ball,
and you're like, damn it.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah, Yeah, she was good.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
She was enjoying it, and I think you hit the
nail on the head with with Why we won is
because Trista. Trista planned this whole thing out.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Yeah, Trista has been playing pickleball for years in like
leagues and stuff.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
She knew all the rules.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
She knows all the rules, and she's very competitive. I
don't know if people know this about her, but she
does not like to lose, no mean, and so it is.
I thank god I was on her team because if
I was not, and God forbid, we would have beaten her.
It would have been awful.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Well.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Kenyon also is incredibly competitive, and it was kind of
funny when because we kept coming up against each other
for the finals. The finals match was between the Guineas
and the Sutters, and we get up there.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
And Kanyon is like, she the first time we played,
was super competitive and ready to go.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Second time we played, she was like, We're never gonna
beat them. I'm like, hey, I can't have that attitude. Okay,
you need to fire up. And I was like, yeah,
what I love about pickleball? And I do think this
is actually kind of a universal things. I've seen it
in movies seeing everything. It does make couples like argue more.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Oh yes, yeah, yeah for sure.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Because I saw you guys a couple times. She's like
what are you doing? Why are you back there? And
you're like what And you just hit like a winner
and she'll be like, well you could have. You should
have hit it from up here. You're like, I just
hit a winner. Like, no one hit, no one hit
the ball back.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
I will let one ball go thinking she was going
to hit it. Apparently that was my responsibility.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, I rushed the net too soon.
Glad I know now, or I'd never do that again.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Yeah, she's she's relentless on me when we play together.
Oh god, it's I enjoy seeing that side of her sometimes. Yeah,
it's surprising because she's not normally like that. She's normally
pretty subdued and a sweetheart. But when she gets into
anything competitive.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
He's competitive man. Yeah forget, she was a competitive dancer.
She I know, Blakesley does that now your daughter is
in now, It's like you know that stuff that that
is that is a very difficult sport and a very
grueling sport to be conditioned for and everything else. So
you put in all that time and effort, You're not
doing it to come in second.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
You know, so I get it.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
You know, my sister was a competitive cheerleader growing up
and competitive dance and stuff, and I remember they were
I mean it was they worked hard on that story.
Those routines did not you know, choreograph themselves, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Tristan was a little bit of a tomboy growing up.
She played soccer and softball, and she was an athlete,
so she has that in her. Yeah, both of our
kids do. Blakesley has that. I told you Max, Max
has it. It's buried a little deeper in Max. He's
he's more of a stoic type of kid, but also
(31:43):
super hard worker, competitive in that regard. But he doesn't
lose his temper as easy as his mom man, probably
his dad. Yeah, he does a good job.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
He's an improved version of Yea.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
He's got the management.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Stuff's important, you know, it really is. I mean he's
got that down. So, yeah, I did notice the few
times i'm that Max, he is very quiet, very very humble,
just sits you know, sits back kind of I think
gets that from you, right, like.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
From the reality perspective.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Yeah, and but yeah, I mean I know he's a
really good hockey player, and and you know, I'm sure
probably everything he does he's probably pretty good at because
he's got two very athletic parents, you know, and it
kind of comes by default if nothing else.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
I think he's getting his genes from somewhere. I don't
know for sure if it's Trista and I, but maybe
it's Trista's grandfather was World War two vet. Like, I
think some of it's coming from him because he's he's
of that greatest generation, and Max has a lot of
those kind of old soul, old soul qualities. He's matured
a lot over the last few years. He's really grown
(32:42):
up as a person. I'm super proud of him. Again,
knock on wood, he's home home alone. He probably throwing
some sort of giant kger at our house. They're going
to come home to you. And I'm gonna regret having
ever said this, but both of our kids have been
really awesome. It's really strange to get to this point
in your life where you can see your kids like
(33:03):
they're close to moving out of our house and that's
just going to leave us these as these empty nesters,
which one makes you feel so old, it does, And
two I don't know what it's going to feel like.
That Max's room is down in our basement where our
little home gym is, and so I go down there
and it's like smells like Max. It's like feels like Max. Yeah,
(33:25):
And I don't know what that's going to be like
when there's no Max down there anymore. So I am
trying to really soak it up.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
You know.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
We just took a sweet backpacking trip the other day
for his eighteenth birthday, and those moments have become way
more precious than the closer he gets to leaving. And
so it's this whole parenting journey is crazy, like sort
of the stage you're in is a super fun stage
with your kids that are like really exciting and they're
facetiming you and all that sort of stuff. And I'm
(33:52):
writing these long text messages to my son or something,
and I get I get an expect like a response
back that's just like good, but.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Really, yeah, that's all I get is good.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
So one of my best buddy's sons, he has an
eighteen year old and the sixteen year old, both boys,
and he's like and he's he's like that, like he's
he's always been like the best friend dad and he
does all the sports with him and you know, and
he's like, God, you know, I used to think, man,
these kids just never stop talking, right, And he's like.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
And now I can't get him to talk to me.
He's like, and it breaks my heart.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
He's like, we'll have these conversations going and he'll just
go mm mmm, and he's like, I'll be like, how
was school today?
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Good? What'd you do?
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Nothing?
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Who you talking to nobody?
Speaker 2 (34:33):
He's like, come on, man, give me something, you know,
and he's like, it's just I don't know what the
duke because I don't want to be the I don't
want to be too pushy. But at the same time,
I'm trying to carve out moments because I know he's
leaving for school and yeh, he's at that exact same
stage as you and I. And it's interesting because that
makes me almost really want to cry, because right now
Grayson will talk to me and Blake will talk to
me until I can't literally take it anymore. Yeah, and
(34:55):
I don't want to be the dad that's like I
read something once that they said, h never if your
kid ever asks you to like pick him up and
carry him.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Never say no, yeah, because you never know the last
time they're gonna want you to carry them.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
So I'll be on a walk with the boys and
they'll be like, Daddy, carry me, and I'm like, in
my mind I should be saying like, nope, you need
to keep walking, build your and I'm like, okay, I
snatch him off to carry what are you doing. I'm like,
he might not want me to carry him anymore tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I'm missing this.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
You never know when it's the last time. I used
to do this thing called the leaf with my daughter Blakesley,
where I would hold her up and I would like
I would like rock her back and forth as I
brought her back down into her bed and drop her
and she loved it, like loved it. And I remember
doing it one time and I'm like, oh god, she's
like getting kind of big. I don't know, I don't
know if I can do this much longer anymore. And
(35:43):
I distinctly remember the time she asked me and I'm like,
I'm sorry, you just you've just grown up too much,
Like I can't do it.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
And he just never crushes me.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Know when that last one is yeah, you so want
to go back to those days where you could like
swing them in between you and do like things like that,
and and you know, instead Max is talking about like, Dad,
I benched to twenty five today, and I'm like, I'm
damn twenty five and so like, and Blakesley is just
(36:12):
all over the dance floor and look doing these like
these dances that make a dad uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
It's like, so you think you can dance style that
she does?
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Right? Yes, I've seen some of those routines before, and
then I've seen when Trista posts them, and I'm like,
that's like, it's like a grown.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Up my sixteen year old daughter.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
You probably looking around. If anybody's like staring at her,
I'll kill them.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
The one side of me is like, how is she
doing that? It's it's amazing the way that she can
move and and remember these dances and just like they're
also talented. The other part of me is like, dang it,
she's grown up way too fast and she sixteen looks
twenty two up there, and I just don't like it.
It just she has a boyfriend now and all these
sorts of things.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
How does that make you feel?
Speaker 3 (36:54):
I actually thought it would be worse. It's not that bad.
Her boyfriend's pretty cool and he makes her happy, and
there's times when he's kind of a dick, and then
we have to sort of be like I have to
be like listen, Blake, he's a sixteen year old boy.
He's going to be kind of like, this is just
how it is. I was the same way. Yeah, it's
going to be. You just have to put up with it. Yeah,
(37:16):
you know, so, I'm but I'm like, but don't put
up with it, right, Yeah, but don't you expect.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
But don't let him do that.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
You ever get Yeah, that's good, it's crazy. I mean,
it's it's fun.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
I challenges I got every time you turn around.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Yep, I remember. I remember, like every single phase of
our kids growing up, was like, oh, I wish they
would never leave this phase. And then they go to
the next phase. I'm like, oh, I wish they would
never release this. So it just keeps getting better. Different,
for sure, but it's it's fun to watch them grow
into their own people and and wonder how they're going
to turn out.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
That's such a Yeah, that's a really cool perspective. I
love that there's this thing I saw on Instagram not
too long ago, and it's the dad from Modern Family,
you know, the guy that was on Married with Children
Ed I can't think of his name, and he was
giving a speech to the whole family and he was
talking about, you know, I exactly what you just said.
Like he was talking about, you know, the little baby
in my arms. And then I'm like, oh, I hope
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she never goes up. The next thing, you know, she's
become a toddler and she's talking and saying her first words,
and he goes all the way through the whole thing.
He's like, but I never had a chance to miss
the old one because the new one showed up, you know.
And he's like, and I fell in love with her
too as well. You know. It's sort of interesting, you know,
from a parenting perspective, as I'm watching my boys grow
and I'm loving where they're at right now, and I'm
(38:30):
missing where they were. And I think being an older
dad too, like I'm fifty four with a six year
old of four year old, you know, I'm already the
grandpa showing up at t ball and I feel like
it's one of those things where I'm really trying to
savor these moments because I've heard from my friends whose
kids are older that you need to you know.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
So that's great advice.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
So thank you.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
All Right, So we got a few minutes left before
we wrap this up. So I want to talk about
the one thing that we've talked that I've always said
I loved about you was you never quit your day job.
He came on the show that back then, they made
us very one dimensional people, right, even Ryan the firefighter.
You know, I, however, because we were bunkmates, knew more
about you. And I remember saying to the producers, why
do you keep bringing up the fact that I was
(39:11):
a backup quarterback at Michigan State, which essentially means I'm
a party planner. But then you've got a guy who
played in the NFL, and all you keep talking about
is that he was a firefighter, Like this dude was
a beast and it would drive me crazy. And I'm like, you, guys,
I get it. He's humble, he's not talking about but
he's a next level athlete.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Man.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
So anyway, I digress. I won't get into that one,
but they want to talk about some of this stuff.
So I was thinking about this the other day. You know,
one of my other buddies a firefighter and he was
a paramedic for a period of time as well, and
my father was a police officer. Always had the best
stories of things that would happen, and they'd be like, oh, yeah,
you know, this happened, this happened, and you should have
seen this, but you know whatever, And it wasn't like
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they were talking about people specifically, but they were talking
about moments. Like, for example, my dad's partner for a
long time in the force was a guy who was
a nervous eater. Right, so they walk into a scene
and the fireman I already be on the scene of
the paramatics, and the guy would be like getting the
report from the lady as to what, well my husband
fell down, dah dah, and he would he would look
around and he one time saw a thing of almonds
(40:11):
and he's he grabbed he goes, do you mind if
I and he's like, no, gover ahead, and he's eating
the almonds while the firefighters are taking care of the
man who had fallen or whatever. And she's like, oh,
thank god, I'm so glad you're eating those almonds. And
he's like, yeah, I love almonds and she goes. I mean,
my husband all he does is just suck the chocolate
off him and put him back in that bowl. My
dad to this day, I mean, my dad would just
laugh and laugh telling me that story.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
I had heard of one hundred times, but it was
never not funny to me.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Yeah, I mean, any circumstances like that, when you look
back and you think about all the years you've been
on the forest, and especially with the experiences I'm sure
you've had. You guys are in a mountain community, you know,
and there's a lot that goes on in those in
those communities. I'm sure a lot of tourism, a lot
of things like that where you get called out for
some silly stuff. Any funny stories that you think, like,
when you look back on him, you're like, this is
just like you couldn't write this.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
Uh, I mean, it's it's hard to come up with
anything specific. I do remember when they legalized marijuana and Colorado,
you had this influx of forty somethings who hadn't probably smoked,
they probably smoked joints in high school, and they're like,
all right, and so they started taking because instead of smoking,
people were just ingesting these like dummies of us. Yeah,
(41:20):
and it's kind of like doing shots where you're like,
I don't feel like this is doing anything. I'll have
another one. And then all of a sudden and there
was it was still this kind of weird Am I
in trouble? Am I not in trouble? Because this used
to be illegal and I'm not legal, And so we
would show up to these just way overly paranoid forty
(41:40):
somethings that would be like hiding behind things. Yeah, so
I remember that as a phase of the first service.
It was kind of kind of funny. But the beauty
of my job is like, right now, I'm on I'm
on Rescue one in Denver, which is a pretty serious
We go to just about everything and we see a
lot of pretty terrible stuff, but we also see a
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lot of good stuff. And then when we're back at
the firehouse, the there's always like things. There's like there'll
be like a personality like yours, or there'll be a
couple of guys that can are just so good at
finding humor in the day, and it's never it's never
about the call, like we're never making fun of like
a person or like you said anything like that, but
(42:23):
a lot of making fun of each other, you know
each other's mistakes, or like we have this one guy
who has big teeth, and we have this one guy
that has a big nose, and like the banter back
and forth much most of it far too inappropriate to
say in a public forum, But it's just that is
the beauty of the job is that you go to
work with a bunch of people that are your friends,
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and you you go and you do these you accomplish
these tasks that sometimes turn out really well and sometimes don't,
but you always come back to this group of people
that you really love and care for and that support you.
And I think that's what keeps people coming back. It's
it's like the job is the job, and it's fun
and you feel there's some purpose and some it's a
(43:05):
there's a rewarding aspect to the actual job of a firefighter. Yeah,
but ninety percent of the time we're not doing that.
We're hanging out with each other training and cooking and
all these sorts of like sort of household type things. Yeah,
and that camaraderie and friendship is really special. Is what
makes the job really special and so there probably are
(43:27):
a million different memories like that that hopefully someday I'll
be able to like sit down and really recall, yeah
and remember. But just the overriding impression and the reason
why I've been at this job for like almost thirty
years is because of that component of it.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
Sure, which I'm sure is an extension of your sports
years and everything else. Right, it's kind of that same
type of camaraderie and bonding and sure kind of like
what we had in the Batsrette house, you know, honestly
it really is.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
Yeah, Well, dude, I love you, man.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
I always love when we get to get together like this,
and I always love when we get to hang out
a little bit. And I obviously spend a lot more
time talking with your wife than I do with you.
But I've always really cherished these moments, and I treasure
the time we get to spend together. And thanks for
always being such a good friend to me, and for
being supportive of all that, for always being cool with
me walking the red carpet with your wife, and you
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and my wife are hanging out at the end with
cocktails waiting for us. So but I love you, buddy,
I appreciate you I appreciate you making the.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Time to come and be a part of the show.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
I think a lot of people are really gonna enjoy
getting to hear you talk a little bit about the
things that you have taken away from this experience, because
it is a unique one. Even though there's been thirty
some seasons of it, it's still a pretty unique thing.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
For people to get to go through. I'm glad I
got to go go through it with you.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
Thank you, Bob Bla. Likewise, I'll love you too.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
I love you, buddy.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
We have had a great time here today, of course,
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hi everybody, welcome back to the Almost Famous OG podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
I am Bob Guiney.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Today I'm without my co host Trista Sutter Nay Wren,
but I am telling you we are having a good
time here in Lake Tahoe. We are at the Lake
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a Wednesday, right, Yeah, Today's Wednesday.
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So it's been a very fun week a couple of days.
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Speaker 1 (00:42):
Here in Lake Tahoe. We're having so much fun, and.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Today I am super fired up because my next guest,
or my guest here on the next hour of the
Almost Famous OGS is my buddy Ryan Sutter. And many
of you may not know, but Ryan does not grant
many of these interviews. It's tough to get them, tough
to nail him down. He's a busy, busy man. But
he was willing to come and hang out with me
and talk with me, which I love. Ryan is my
(01:06):
oldest and dearest friend from this whole Bachelor Shenanigan's franchise
that started so many years ago and has basically ridden
the atrista Ryan Coat Trail Coat Tails all the way
to twenty three years later. Yes, I mean it really
has right, it's pretty spectacular. A lot of people don't
know this, but Ryan and I were in the same
bunk area and our incredible mansion there in Malibu.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Somewhere that I've never been able to find.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
When all the guys moved into the mansion and we
had a lot of fun in that house.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Man, that was a very good time.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
It was a great time.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah, I mean, what.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Are you what are some of your first memories of
when I mean, I know you probably recapped that night,
the first night many times, getting out the limo and
everything else, But what are the when we moved into
that mansion that next morning and it was kind of like,
what is going on? And you looked around that room?
What were you thinking?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Oh gosh, I don't like it's all it's all kind
of a blur. I don't know. If it's a blur
or I've just gotten so old that like I've forgotten.
But somewhere in between those two things, I honestly remember
it being a really positive experience too. I feel like
we always had a really good time. And in fact,
I always tell people like we would get the card
(02:16):
to go on a date and there would be some
level of excitement because you're going with Trista and some
level of disappointment because you were leaving all of these
like hanging out with So it was it was, I
think different than it is today where really everyone got along.
I think I told I told you this when we
were hanging out just a few days ago that people
(02:38):
want to know who you got, Like where was the
conflict and where was all this stuff happening? And I'm like,
I literally liked every single person on that show, and
we had a great time, and it was like we
were in this big fraternity house. Yeah, just throwing parties
and you know remember when we took Jack's bed outside
all this stuff was it was just super fun.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
And then you know, obviously it got serious as guys
sort of started to go away, right, and then it
became way more focused on on Trista. But the initial
whatever that was weak or two was super fun.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
It was Man, I remember it so well too. It's
like that that was and it really set the bar,
you know. I think it was obviously, you know, the
most successful season probably ever of the show. And I
think it's kind of interesting because they, I think wanted
or expected conflict amongst us, and they just didn't get
it no matter how hard they tried. And I was
(03:33):
telling the story the other night about getting pulled out
of the hot tub and being told, you know, hey,
stop trying to coach people on not talking smack when
the cameras. I'm like, look, dude, I'm from Detroit, Like
I don't know, we even know what the hell I'm
doing here. And if I go, if I'm nice this
person's face and that's on camera, then I'm stabbing in
the back. I'm gonna get so much greef from my friends.
I'm not doing it. But everybody was. We were all
(03:54):
like that, and I knew, like I knew if I'm
sitting there on camera and they would say, well so
and so said this about you. And I remember to
this day Jason Carbone going, Ginny, just take the bait
once in a while. I'm like, no, I know he
didn't say that. I know he wouldn't say that we're buddies.
I'm like, you guys are gonna get me say anything.
And it was so funny because we were kind of
(04:14):
in this experimental pod. They never had a bunch of
dudes living in a house together up until that point,
and we were the first run.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
And we did like you said it best. It was
a frat hoouse. We'd party.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
We'd grant our buddy Jack, he's a firefighter from Cleveland.
We took his he went to sleep early, poor dude,
biggest mistake he ever made in his life. We'd take
his entire bed and put it in the yard. The
sprinklers come on.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
He's getting suck.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I mean, you know, just doing dumb, fun stuff that
guys do to bond. We talked about doing our Sentry
Club thing where we did a one hundred shots of
beer and a hundred minutes. And Trista comes home from
her date and she's looking around the house and it's
in shambles. I'm on the roof with an apron, sweeping
cans under the ground. Jamie Blythe is eating dog food
out of the bag.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Yeah, I mean I passed out on my bed and
she came in and like rubbed my back. Yeah, And
I woke up like embarrassed that I was the one
that had passed out from the hundred shots of beer.
Not a big drinker, one hundred chots of beers, a
lot of it, a lot of beer, and so, oh
my god, I'm so sorry. I'm just really drunk.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
And she's she was like, no big deal.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Obviously she forgave me.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
But yeah, yeah, she clearly forgive you. I remember so
many things in that show.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I mean, it was a really fun experience because, like
I said, I don't think many of us or any
of us knew what we were getting ourselves into. It
wasn't like there had been another season for us to
watch and take cliff notes, you know. And so we
came in and we kind of made it whatever we
wanted to make it. And I was telling this story
earlier about the producers came to me one day at
the first day we're there and they're like, so, uh,
(05:44):
and I don't know how I got selected, Like, what
do you think everyone's gonna want to eat today?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I'm like, well, I think we're gonna want Mexican and uh,
Marguerita machine would be cool.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Maybe some Tito's. At the time, it was a great
goose for me. I'm like, some great goose. Maybe fourteen
a half gallons of vodka, maybe one taco. We'll split it.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
We'll be fine. But I remember, it was just such
a different world.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
And and you're right about the date cards, because I
do recall. I was never mad when I didn't get
a date card. I was so excited for the guys
that did. And then when I was on a date card,
I was excited to go, but I was also bummed
I wasn't be hanging out with my buddies, you know.
And it was genuinely that you described it best.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I mean, that was a real feeling.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Yeah, no, And I think it Actually it's interesting having
talked to you after all of these years and found
out your path to the show was very similar to mine,
and that neither of us really wanted to go on
the show initially, or didn't believe the show was real,
or thought we would be right for the show. And
I almost wonder if that played in our favor somehow,
(06:50):
like the production team or the casting producers were like, well,
these guys they don't want to be on the show,
we need to get them on them.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
They thought it was a play, so they just kept.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
They were persistent with us, which worked out for us.
And then I always tell people, had you not ended
up on the show, I don't think I would have
ended up lasting as long as I did.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
That.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Man, Well, it's true, like you mentioned that they come
came to you for menu suggestions and things like that,
but I was fortunate enough to get a lot of
group dates with you, and your personality is one hundred
and eighty degrees from mine, and so I could ride
your sort of like you you just sort of carried
the day and I could sort of just ride in
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your wake. And then I could have the time that
I had with Trista, where I'm okay in that sort
of situation, but in a group type of like I
don't entertain people, and I don't tell stories and jokes,
and I can't sing and all these things that you
can do. So it was awesome to have you there
to do all of that heavy lifting, which I think
allowed me to just sort of be myself. And then
(07:52):
that is eventually what Trista ended up falling for and
ended up working out for me. I owe a lot
of just getting to that point to you. And it's
it's true. I've told people that from the very beginning.
It just the way it all worked out for me
was really fortunate because I just like things just lined
(08:13):
up well for me. Yeah, I didn't have to do
a lot of that work myself. I could just be
myself on that show. And that's really all I know
how to be.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
So and that's what she was looking for for someone
to yeah, be excuse me, to be genuine and be
someone who was really and and the one thing I
remember about you right out of the gates and it
was like, I mean we had a fast friendship obviously,
but I remember I remember being on a group date
and I remember saying to Trista. I mean I think
(08:42):
she remembers this because I remember saying this. I was like, so,
you know, are you getting along great with everybody? Yeah,
I'm gettng with it. I'd be like, you know, Ryan
is like he's writing poetry, he is spending time, and
I was like, I was like your wingman, and I'm
like still technically supposed to be trying to date her,
right yeah, but I but she and I we were
friends right out of the gate, and it was like
(09:04):
and I and I and I knew that and of
course she's beautiful, and of course, you know, but it
was like we had this great friendship and I was
watching your relationship progress in a way that mine wasn't.
And I remember it was more one of those things
where I was like, it's got to be one of
the guys here, and in my opinion, it's got to
be him, you know.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
And I felt that way very early on.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
And I remember thinking to myself, like it was never
a competitive environment for the guys. We were never like
looking at each other like, oh, that dude sucks, you know.
It was always like I remember, Russ was the only
guy that we all were kind of like, you know,
what's up with Russ? And the reason why was because
he showed up with a gift from Tiffany's on night
one and none of us thought of it.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
He was just smarter than us.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
And we were we were a little irritated with that dude.
But other than that, you know, And but thank you,
that's a really sweet thing.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Of you to say.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
And I and I've always loved our friendship because I
feel like there's a several that have kind of you know,
permeated the show, and and and over the years have
continued to stay intact. And we don't talk much, you know,
and Jamie blythe I don't talk much with Jamie anymore,
but we still when we talk.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
We pick right up where we left off, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
And it's like the things about that, you know, Jack,
even Jack like Jack's son played football and he was
he was on the recruiting list for Michigan State. And
I was able to kind of look into that a
little bit and see, you know, are they going to
grab him?
Speaker 1 (10:20):
You know?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
And you know, I've stayed in touch with him.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
It's kind of interesting.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I randomly will get a strange message from Charlie, sure,
but I mean not very often, but he'll be like, hey, man,
I'm just thinking about you. I hope you're doing great,
you know. And uh, And so it's always been kind
of interesting. There's there's some no I have never heard
from since the day the show ended, you know, like
like Greg.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Who was one of the hometowns. Have you ever heard
from anything?
Speaker 3 (10:45):
No, It's such a unique guy and talented guy too.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Erry talented guy.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Yeah, physician and right, Yeah, that's funny when when you
were talking about you talking to Trista and us sharing
things like I remember when I wrote the poem that
I eventually read to her. I think it did or
not Disney Sea World, and then it turned into a
song at our wedding, which was amazing. I asked you
(11:09):
about it. I was like hey, and I just felt
super comfortable with you. I'm like, hey, I know, I
know we're trying to get the same girl here, but
what do you think of this poem that I wrote,
like in and you were super honest with it. You
read it and gave me your opinion, and I think
it's just it just I think is testament to your
(11:30):
character that you could separate the fact that we were
And I hate the word like competing for a girl.
I also hate the world like word like or the
concept of like I won this, like I somehow won
a wife right out of this thing. I just feel
like it's weird.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Like a process.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Oh, you won the you won the Batcheorette, good job,
was a wife? I knocked down the most up things.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Yeah, it's and it's just I feel lucky and even
when we're talking. This morning, I came in to get
dressed or whatever, and I was like, you know, Bob
and I, despite the fact that our personalities are probably
one hundred and eighty degrees different, are very similar people
like I think we have a lot of similarities. We do,
and I think that's probably why we've been able to
(12:16):
get along so well. And truthfully, when I get invited
to these maybe I shouldn't say this on iHeart, but
I'm always like, it was Bob going to be there,
because if he's going to be there, then I'll go.
Otherwise I don't know most of the other people, and
so I'm more reluctant to go. But I always enjoy
(12:37):
catching up with you, whether it's with a microphone in
my face or at the pool in the morning drinking coffee.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Always this morning I was, yeah, I mean for everyone listening.
So this morning was an interesting morning. My son face
timed me at what would have been four thirty in
the morning here to tell me he was so excited
to go to camp and everything, and my luggage still
hadn't arrived. Damn you a Delta, But Delta, they're my oline.
I love them, but I kind of use that as
(13:04):
my motivation. I was like, Okay, I'm awake, I'm just
gonna go right And so I was calling Delta on
the way there, and I was just bound and determined
to get my bag. And then I got back and
it was still super early, and I did have my suitcase, thankfully,
and you and I just had a chance, just the
two of us to sit out there and talk for
about an hour. And and I loved it too, you know,
like I loved actually realizing how much we have in
common with a lot of that stuff, because a lot
(13:25):
of times we don't even get the opportunity to really
download with each other. We're just like, oh, hey, what's up, buddy,
how you been Okay, great, Well, I'm gonna do this podcast.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I'll see you later.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Then we're at dinner with four hundred people and we're
not talking to anybody.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Anyway, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
And so I appreciated that too, And I loved that too.
You Actually, you and my wife Jessica have a lot
of similarities in how you like are with crowds. You know,
(13:57):
like she's great, she loves talking people, she loves but
she loves in a more of a one on one situation.
She gets a little intimidated when there's more people, and
and so that's kind of where I stepped in and
be like, hey, I got this, you know. But but
I do remember when we were talking about your poem,
and I remember thinking to myself that that was really
a huge moment for me, because I remember thinking, he's
(14:19):
sitting here spending time writing poetry and I'm out there
trying to get guys to do twenty shots of beer, Like.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
What the hell's the difference here?
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Right? But you're and you were at this different place
that I don't know that I was capable of getting
to with anyone at that place, you know what I mean.
It could have been Trista, It could have been my
wife now, it could have been can, It could have anybody.
I just don't think I was prepared emotionally for that journey.
And you were there, and you were there because it
(14:45):
was her, Yeah, because I don't think. I don't think
you would have been there if it wasn't her, But
because it was her, you allowed yourself to go there.
You have that you're such a sincere person and you
just don't care about all the other bs. And it's
all I've always said that about you like the guy
from was that People magazine? Who was that guy that
was here today?
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:02):
So I was saying to that guy today. He was like,
you know, so what do you think about all of this stuff?
You know, I'm like, that's the house that Tristan Ryan belt.
I'm like, it really is. I mean because the Bachelor franchise,
you know, that was so early in that whole thing.
They had zero success so far, sure had it not
been for the two of you. And then the televised wedding,
which you know a little known fact, and I remember
this Oprah was was was the one who wanted to
(15:25):
do the wedding, and then ABC was like all of
a sudden, like, oh no, We're going to televise a wedding,
you know, And I remember that being a thing. I
was like, oh my god, this is amazing. It like
a bidding word for the wedding. But of course, you
know that was it was. It was just a really
cool moment, and it was like you know that I
remember the wedding was so next level stuff and you
(15:45):
guys handled it, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
And yeah that was all Trista. I mean, so much
of this is her. She's been the sort of face
of that bachelorette franchise for a while. I mean, there
have been so many good bachelorettes. Yeah, for her to
sort of be the first one, you know, I got.
I just took this promotional test and we had to
in for the fire service, and we always we've always
(16:07):
focused on leadership, and someone told me that leadership isn't
about getting followers, it's about going first. And I always
really liked that. I was like, oh, you know, that's
kind of what she did in this case, because she
took a ton of criticism and heat and it wasn't
as bad as it is now where it's there. The
social media world was not nearly what it is.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
There was chat rooms back then, right, yeah, and she
couldn't stay off of theme, and I was like, just
don't go on them, because you would be want there'll
be one hundred nice things, and that one because because
I made the mistake of going in there a few
times too, and there would be one hundred nice things,
and that one person sitting behind a laptop saying something
mean and that was sticking your head for weeks and
make you second guess everything.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah, you know, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
It was horrible and so so yeah for her to
do that, to take on this challenge, and then the
wedding was a whole another spectacle that both of us
just sort of so it seemed like it was going
to happen obviously, and so we both just said, all right,
this probably isn't how we dreamt our wedding to be,
(17:12):
but let's make the most of this. And it turned
out awesome, Like we had a great time. We just
sort of let it happen. And there were bumps in
the road obviously, like I think there probably are for
everyone's ding, sure, And so it was it was everything
she could have imagined with all of the people like
Mark's garden play riding like eight bazillion flowers, and all
(17:34):
our friends were there, the guys from the firehouse were there,
and nobody had to drive home and it just was
a super fun weekend turned out too. It was awesome. Yeah,
it was really awesome. So that I mean, again another
like snippet from our conversations off the air, like it
it was, but it was so long ago that I
don't even really relate it to my life anymore, Like
(17:57):
it was just like a totally different time where with
like the helicopters flying over and all of that sort
of press that followed that. That process of getting married
seems like it didn't even ever happen. All I really
remember is just getting married and now having this great
family that we have and all this life that we've
(18:18):
built from that moment. But that's been the blessing of
the Bachelor for me. Trist has been able to stay
relatively connected with it for well, since she was on it, yeah,
or we were on it. I've been sort of intentionally
removed from it, and it's worked out really well for
both of us. Like it's just been the ideal sort
(18:38):
of life for us, and it's it's we're we are
super grateful for it and super fortunate. We feel super
fortunate for all the friendships that we've had and the
experiences that we've gotten to take advantage of because of it.
We got we got to live like the lifestyle of
the rich and famous there for a little while, and
then we got to go back to normal life. And
(19:01):
I think that's the blessing that a lot of people
either don't get to have. They just never get to
go back to normal life, or they go back to
normal life, but they still really wish they were rich
and famous, right, And that's a tough battle to fight.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Also, that's an internal battle for that.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Yeah, and we're just fortunate enough to be sort of
found this kind of really great middle ground and are
existing within that. And it's been, I mean, knock on
what it's been great and hopefully continues to be.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Absolutely no, I think you put it perfectly. I often
say that when people will say, you know, why we're
Tristan and Ryan so successful and these other couples can't
make it. And I do think a lot of it
has to do with making the decision to move and
go back to Colorado.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
You never quit your day job, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
I know you changed some things a few different times,
but you've always stayed true to who you are. And
Trista embrace that too, you know what I mean. And
so yeah, she still of course, you know, dabbles here
and there and does the things that she can do,
and of course the podcast that we do together and
everything else. But I think for the most part, it
was like I can I can move to la like
(20:08):
everybody else does, you know, and see if I can
become you know, the new Ben Affleck and the new
you know, Jennifer Lopez or I can go home and
I'll take what comes when it comes. And you know,
I actually went through that after the show too, because
there was just all these opportunities and but I had
to make a decision. I was like, I'm never going
to quit my day job because my fear was and
(20:31):
this was this was really something I kept waiting for
the other shoot to drop. I'm like, I'm not gonna
be flavor of the Month forever, and they're going to
find a cheaper, funnier, younger, better looking version to me
in the next Bachelor, and you.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Know, and and they did.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Jesse Palmer came along, you know, and all of a sudden,
I'm like, wait a minute, he's already in a broadcaster,
you know, creat like a guy.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Quarterback, and he actually started no.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
It was like they you know, but I just kept thinking,
like so, I'm like, if I don't put all my
eggs in that basket, then I can be happy, you know.
And it took time for me to find the right person.
But once I finally didn't, you know, we've got a
family of our own and everything else, It's like, you
can still You're right, you can still kind of have
both worlds coexisting, but you've got to make the decision
on which side of that fence you want to be on. Yeah,
(21:15):
and I think that the younger people now, with all
the social media opportunities and things like that that didn't
exist when we were on the show, probably find it
harder to decide what's more important. Yeah, you know, because
they wanted the fame part of it. We didn't know
that that was going to be a byproduct of what
we were doing.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
We didn't know what we were doing.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
I specifically remember when you sat in there with a
psychologist or psychiatrist, I can't remember which one she was.
She said, this is going to affect your life for
probably up to three months, so just be ready for
that impact. And it's been twenty something years and it's
still sort of impacting. And the first several years were
like you like, it was a major impact on your life. Yeah,
(21:57):
to be on Like to be in the grocery store
with the guys getting groceries for the shift and there's
you and your wife on People magazine. Yeah, this is weird.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
It is weird.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
That was actually a because I mean, I don't think
we don't see the magazines like we used to write.
But I remember that was a big thing for me
because I was I'd be at the grocery store and my.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Mom loved it, right, So my mom would walk up.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
My mom would be in like the chicken section and
be like, Bobby, this woman's a huge fan of yours.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
I'm like, how does she know?
Speaker 2 (22:25):
What do you?
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Mom? Are you walking up going?
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Are you gonna go chicken breast or thighs? That my
son's Bob Guinea's over there? Like how is how does
this person even know I'm here? I walked Bastard twenty times.
She didn't recognize me. But I remember like seeing especially
when things like when Nostella and I were splitting up,
and I remember seeing the cover of the magazine with
the rip down the middle and it was like, you know,
And I remember calling the executive editor US Weekly and
I was.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Like, why would you do that? Yeah, you're my friend,
Like why would you She's like, well, no, it was
just we just did it to you know sell.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
You know, I'm like, that hurts my feelings, like, you know,
I'm not getting paid millions of dollars. I guess in
my mind that would have been okay to take a
pot shot, but why.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Did you do that to me? Like I'm the normal guy,
you know.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
So I remember that that did change life for a while,
and that had to be really tough for you because
you went right back to the firehouse.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Yeah, it was fine until the show started airing, and
then I had to take six months off of the
firehouse because people would pull fire alarms and people would kidding,
would take be taking pictures while you're on medical calls,
and it was a huge distraction. Yeah, So the fire
chief suggested that I take six months off, and he
was right, and so that was when we planned our
(23:29):
wedding and it ended up working out great. Yeah, but
but yes, hugely impactful there for a while. And you're
just when you're just constantly taking pictures and constantly sort
of and there was a great there was a good
side of it too, like we got to do a
kind of ton of really cool events and like I said,
we got to live in this really sweet cabin and
on Veil Mountain for a while. So there were there
(23:51):
were definitely some benefits to it, but it was an
adjustment just to try to find some privacy in your life.
And yeah, and you know, always being nice. Like both
Tristan and I realized the only reason why people wanted
to take pictures was they we they enjoyed the experience.
And we heard a ton of really positive like I
(24:12):
watched this with my right after I had my child
in the hospital, or I watched it as my mom
like she was passing away or something like that, all
of these stories that are really touching, and.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Yeah, so you can't ignore them when they're talking to you.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
You know, you're listen. The only reason why we're able
to enjoy the things we're doing are because of these
people who all they want is a picture.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Yeah that takes two seconds.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Yeah, like, we'll do that. And so we've always felt
that way, and we've we were blessed with a positive,
a mostly positive impression coming off of that show. So
people have always been super supportive and nice, and that's
been easy to handle.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Yeah, yeah, you're absolutely right, cause I'm sure I used
to hear stories about like guys like you know, I
don't know if they were the villains of the season
or something like that, but they would go into a
and people would mess with them and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
That just never happened to me.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
You know, I think I got the sun kissed of
being on the season with the two of you and
you two finding love, and then my season people seem
to like And it wasn't successful from a relationship perspective,
but it was successful from the standpoint of I was
nice to everybody, they were.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Nice to me, and there was no scandal. It was like,
you know, that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
So it was easy to come off of a good
at it like that, you know, as opposed to perhaps
one of the others. But well, I love I know
that this isn't something you love to do with these
kind of stuff, but I love that you're here. I
love that you're willing to do this with me. We
are also here, of course, for a pickleball tournament, and
I will tell you I had an early pick. I thought,
(25:41):
you know, well, let's see, I think Trista suggested this.
She's like, yeah, we should do the iHeartRadio Pickleball tournament.
And I'm like, clearly someone has played pickleball, right, because
I wouldn't necessarily suggest something I didn't know how to do.
So I told Kenyon, I'm like, Canyon, I think I
think the Sutters are going to be pretty good. I'm like,
first of all, Ryan's the best athlete I know. Secondly,
Trista suggest us at this, so I have a feeling
(26:01):
they're coming in strong.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
We need to practice. We've never done this before.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
So two weeks ago at our at our family's lake house,
we got like our friend has like a basketball court.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
We put the net over the thing and we're in there.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
She everyone's trying to teach us the rules, and I
was just I didn't understand the kitchen because they didn't
have that kind of layout, so I didn't even know
what they were talking about. And then the bouncing of
the ball, letting it bounce twice was the hardest part
for me, like remember to do that?
Speaker 1 (26:27):
But I felt like we got we got pretty good.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
So then we get out here and uh, you know,
we had some stiff competition. However, I think it's important
that we let people know. Well, first of all, who was.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
All right?
Speaker 2 (26:41):
You are the champions. Trista and Ryan Sutter won the
Pick a Ball Championship. First and foremost, congratulations, you were
a worthy competitor. I was very appreciative that during our
matches you were coaching us on how to play the game,
which was super nice, like up Bob the next time,
you know, rushing that when you're not serving, And that
was awesome because as we end up having to play
(27:01):
each other twice, yes, yeah, and the first time I
think we almost got shut out. I think it was
eleven to one, and the second time a much better,
much improved game, much closer eleven to three, but still
it was.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Much closer than the score indicase.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Yeah, well you guys when you guys got on a
heater serving and it was just like sheeeze, pets, we can't.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
But who would you say from the standpoint of like
watching everybody play, Because I expected I expected Golden Gary
to be pretty good. Yeah, and he brought his own rackets,
his own paddles. I guess you'd call him. I'm like
anybody who's traveling with paddles. That dude's serious, right, He
had special shoes.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Court shoes, yep, tort shoes.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Who were you expecting to be tough competition and who
were you surprised by?
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Well, if I'm being honest, I wasn't really totally sure
who all was coming to this.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
Thing, so I don't really know who I was expecting
to be good. But when we got there, Gary was
one I knew you would be good. Yeah, I thought
Ben would be pretty good.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Yep. I didn't realize he had had bue need that. Yeah,
I didn't it a little bit. Yeah, Deanna was Dianna
was probably the one that surprised me the most because
she had never played and we played her. I want
to say, we played them first, Ben and her, and
she was hitting the ball over the place. And then
by the end of it, kind of like you and Canyon,
(28:20):
Like the the improvement was was noticeable, right like you guys,
you figured it out really quickly and became pretty proficient,
Like within a few games.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I thought Deanna easily wins the award for me for
funniest funniest player. Oh you know, like every time she'd serve,
she was doing like the Serena really was like that ah.
And then she'd when she hit the ball, it would
either be a grunt or she'd just yell the worst
cuss word you've ever heard in your life.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
And I was like, it would.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Make you laugh and you couldn't even return the ball,
and you're like, damn it.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah, Yeah, she was good.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
She was enjoying it, and I think you hit the
nail on the head with with Why we won is
because Trista. Trista planned this whole thing out.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Yeah, Trista has been playing pickleball for years in like
leagues and stuff.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
She knew all the rules.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
She knows all the rules, and she's very competitive. I
don't know if people know this about her, but she
does not like to lose, no mean, and so it is.
I thank god I was on her team because if
I was not, and God forbid, we would have beaten her.
It would have been awful.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Well.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Kenyon also is incredibly competitive, and it was kind of
funny when because we kept coming up against each other
for the finals. The finals match was between the Guineas
and the Sutters, and we get up there.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
And Kanyon is like, she the first time we played,
was super competitive and ready to go.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Second time we played, she was like, We're never gonna
beat them. I'm like, hey, I can't have that attitude. Okay,
you need to fire up. And I was like, yeah,
what I love about pickleball? And I do think this
is actually kind of a universal things. I've seen it
in movies seeing everything. It does make couples like argue more.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Oh yes, yeah, yeah for sure.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Because I saw you guys a couple times. She's like
what are you doing? Why are you back there? And
you're like what And you just hit like a winner
and she'll be like, well you could have. You should
have hit it from up here. You're like, I just
hit a winner. Like, no one hit, no one hit
the ball back.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
I will let one ball go thinking she was going
to hit it. Apparently that was my responsibility.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, I rushed the net too soon.
Glad I know now, or I'd never do that again.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Yeah, she's she's relentless on me when we play together.
Oh god, it's I enjoy seeing that side of her sometimes. Yeah,
it's surprising because she's not normally like that. She's normally
pretty subdued and a sweetheart. But when she gets into
anything competitive.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
He's competitive man. Yeah forget, she was a competitive dancer.
She I know, Blakesley does that now your daughter is
in now, It's like you know that stuff that that
is that is a very difficult sport and a very
grueling sport to be conditioned for and everything else. So
you put in all that time and effort, You're not
doing it to come in second.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
You know, so I get it.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
You know, my sister was a competitive cheerleader growing up
and competitive dance and stuff, and I remember they were
I mean it was they worked hard on that story.
Those routines did not you know, choreograph themselves, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Tristan was a little bit of a tomboy growing up.
She played soccer and softball, and she was an athlete,
so she has that in her. Yeah, both of our
kids do. Blakesley has that. I told you Max, Max
has it. It's buried a little deeper in Max. He's
he's more of a stoic type of kid, but also
(31:43):
super hard worker, competitive in that regard. But he doesn't
lose his temper as easy as his mom man, probably
his dad. Yeah, he does a good job.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
He's an improved version of Yea.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
He's got the management.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Stuff's important, you know, it really is. I mean he's
got that down. So, yeah, I did notice the few
times i'm that Max, he is very quiet, very very humble,
just sits you know, sits back kind of I think
gets that from you, right, like.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
From the reality perspective.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Yeah, and but yeah, I mean I know he's a
really good hockey player, and and you know, I'm sure
probably everything he does he's probably pretty good at because
he's got two very athletic parents, you know, and it
kind of comes by default if nothing else.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
I think he's getting his genes from somewhere. I don't
know for sure if it's Trista and I, but maybe
it's Trista's grandfather was World War two vet. Like, I
think some of it's coming from him because he's he's
of that greatest generation, and Max has a lot of
those kind of old soul, old soul qualities. He's matured
a lot over the last few years. He's really grown
(32:42):
up as a person. I'm super proud of him. Again,
knock on wood, he's home home alone. He probably throwing
some sort of giant kger at our house. They're going
to come home to you. And I'm gonna regret having
ever said this, but both of our kids have been
really awesome. It's really strange to get to this point
in your life where you can see your kids like
(33:03):
they're close to moving out of our house and that's
just going to leave us these as these empty nesters,
which one makes you feel so old, it does, And
two I don't know what it's going to feel like.
That Max's room is down in our basement where our
little home gym is, and so I go down there
and it's like smells like Max. It's like feels like Max. Yeah,
(33:25):
And I don't know what that's going to be like
when there's no Max down there anymore. So I am
trying to really soak it up.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
You know.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
We just took a sweet backpacking trip the other day
for his eighteenth birthday, and those moments have become way
more precious than the closer he gets to leaving. And
so it's this whole parenting journey is crazy, like sort
of the stage you're in is a super fun stage
with your kids that are like really exciting and they're
facetiming you and all that sort of stuff. And I'm
(33:52):
writing these long text messages to my son or something,
and I get I get an expect like a response
back that's just like good, but.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Really, yeah, that's all I get is good.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
So one of my best buddy's sons, he has an
eighteen year old and the sixteen year old, both boys,
and he's like and he's he's like that, like he's
he's always been like the best friend dad and he
does all the sports with him and you know, and
he's like, God, you know, I used to think, man,
these kids just never stop talking, right, And he's like.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
And now I can't get him to talk to me.
He's like, and it breaks my heart.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
He's like, we'll have these conversations going and he'll just
go mm mmm, and he's like, I'll be like, how
was school today?
Speaker 1 (34:29):
Good? What'd you do?
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Nothing?
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Who you talking to nobody?
Speaker 2 (34:33):
He's like, come on, man, give me something, you know,
and he's like, it's just I don't know what the
duke because I don't want to be the I don't
want to be too pushy. But at the same time,
I'm trying to carve out moments because I know he's
leaving for school and yeh, he's at that exact same
stage as you and I. And it's interesting because that
makes me almost really want to cry, because right now
Grayson will talk to me and Blake will talk to
me until I can't literally take it anymore. Yeah, and
(34:55):
I don't want to be the dad that's like I
read something once that they said, h never if your
kid ever asks you to like pick him up and
carry him.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Never say no, yeah, because you never know the last
time they're gonna want you to carry them.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
So I'll be on a walk with the boys and
they'll be like, Daddy, carry me, and I'm like, in
my mind I should be saying like, nope, you need
to keep walking, build your and I'm like, okay, I
snatch him off to carry what are you doing. I'm like,
he might not want me to carry him anymore tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I'm missing this.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
You never know when it's the last time. I used
to do this thing called the leaf with my daughter Blakesley,
where I would hold her up and I would like
I would like rock her back and forth as I
brought her back down into her bed and drop her
and she loved it, like loved it. And I remember
doing it one time and I'm like, oh god, she's
like getting kind of big. I don't know, I don't
know if I can do this much longer anymore. And
(35:43):
I distinctly remember the time she asked me and I'm like,
I'm sorry, you just you've just grown up too much,
Like I can't do it.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
And he just never crushes me.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Know when that last one is yeah, you so want
to go back to those days where you could like
swing them in between you and do like things like that,
and and you know, instead Max is talking about like, Dad,
I benched to twenty five today, and I'm like, I'm
damn twenty five and so like, and Blakesley is just
(36:12):
all over the dance floor and look doing these like
these dances that make a dad uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
It's like, so you think you can dance style that
she does?
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Right? Yes, I've seen some of those routines before, and
then I've seen when Trista posts them, and I'm like,
that's like, it's like a grown.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Up my sixteen year old daughter.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
You probably looking around. If anybody's like staring at her,
I'll kill them.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
The one side of me is like, how is she
doing that? It's it's amazing the way that she can
move and and remember these dances and just like they're
also talented. The other part of me is like, dang it,
she's grown up way too fast and she sixteen looks
twenty two up there, and I just don't like it.
It just she has a boyfriend now and all these
sorts of things.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
How does that make you feel?
Speaker 3 (36:54):
I actually thought it would be worse. It's not that bad.
Her boyfriend's pretty cool and he makes her happy, and
there's times when he's kind of a dick, and then
we have to sort of be like I have to
be like listen, Blake, he's a sixteen year old boy.
He's going to be kind of like, this is just
how it is. I was the same way. Yeah, it's
going to be. You just have to put up with it. Yeah,
(37:16):
you know, so, I'm but I'm like, but don't put
up with it, right, Yeah, but don't you expect.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
But don't let him do that.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
You ever get Yeah, that's good, it's crazy. I mean,
it's it's fun.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
I challenges I got every time you turn around.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Yep, I remember. I remember, like every single phase of
our kids growing up, was like, oh, I wish they
would never leave this phase. And then they go to
the next phase. I'm like, oh, I wish they would
never release this. So it just keeps getting better. Different,
for sure, but it's it's fun to watch them grow
into their own people and and wonder how they're going
to turn out.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
That's such a Yeah, that's a really cool perspective. I
love that there's this thing I saw on Instagram not
too long ago, and it's the dad from Modern Family,
you know, the guy that was on Married with Children
Ed I can't think of his name, and he was
giving a speech to the whole family and he was
talking about, you know, I exactly what you just said.
Like he was talking about, you know, the little baby
in my arms. And then I'm like, oh, I hope
(38:10):
she never goes up. The next thing, you know, she's
become a toddler and she's talking and saying her first words,
and he goes all the way through the whole thing.
He's like, but I never had a chance to miss
the old one because the new one showed up, you know.
And he's like, and I fell in love with her
too as well. You know. It's sort of interesting, you know,
from a parenting perspective, as I'm watching my boys grow
and I'm loving where they're at right now, and I'm
(38:30):
missing where they were. And I think being an older
dad too, like I'm fifty four with a six year
old of four year old, you know, I'm already the
grandpa showing up at t ball and I feel like
it's one of those things where I'm really trying to
savor these moments because I've heard from my friends whose
kids are older that you need to you know.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
So that's great advice.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
So thank you.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
All Right, So we got a few minutes left before
we wrap this up. So I want to talk about
the one thing that we've talked that I've always said
I loved about you was you never quit your day job.
He came on the show that back then, they made
us very one dimensional people, right, even Ryan the firefighter.
You know, I, however, because we were bunkmates, knew more
about you. And I remember saying to the producers, why
do you keep bringing up the fact that I was
(39:11):
a backup quarterback at Michigan State, which essentially means I'm
a party planner. But then you've got a guy who
played in the NFL, and all you keep talking about
is that he was a firefighter, Like this dude was
a beast and it would drive me crazy. And I'm like, you, guys,
I get it. He's humble, he's not talking about but
he's a next level athlete.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Man.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
So anyway, I digress. I won't get into that one,
but they want to talk about some of this stuff.
So I was thinking about this the other day. You know,
one of my other buddies a firefighter and he was
a paramedic for a period of time as well, and
my father was a police officer. Always had the best
stories of things that would happen, and they'd be like, oh, yeah,
you know, this happened, this happened, and you should have
seen this, but you know whatever, And it wasn't like
(39:50):
they were talking about people specifically, but they were talking
about moments. Like, for example, my dad's partner for a
long time in the force was a guy who was
a nervous eater. Right, so they walk into a scene
and the fireman I already be on the scene of
the paramatics, and the guy would be like getting the
report from the lady as to what, well my husband
fell down, dah dah, and he would he would look
around and he one time saw a thing of almonds
(40:11):
and he's he grabbed he goes, do you mind if
I and he's like, no, gover ahead, and he's eating
the almonds while the firefighters are taking care of the
man who had fallen or whatever. And she's like, oh,
thank god, I'm so glad you're eating those almonds. And
he's like, yeah, I love almonds and she goes. I mean,
my husband all he does is just suck the chocolate
off him and put him back in that bowl. My
dad to this day, I mean, my dad would just
laugh and laugh telling me that story.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
I had heard of one hundred times, but it was
never not funny to me.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Yeah, I mean, any circumstances like that, when you look
back and you think about all the years you've been
on the forest, and especially with the experiences I'm sure
you've had. You guys are in a mountain community, you know,
and there's a lot that goes on in those in
those communities. I'm sure a lot of tourism, a lot
of things like that where you get called out for
some silly stuff. Any funny stories that you think, like,
when you look back on him, you're like, this is
just like you couldn't write this.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
Uh, I mean, it's it's hard to come up with
anything specific. I do remember when they legalized marijuana and Colorado,
you had this influx of forty somethings who hadn't probably smoked,
they probably smoked joints in high school, and they're like,
all right, and so they started taking because instead of smoking,
people were just ingesting these like dummies of us. Yeah,
(41:20):
and it's kind of like doing shots where you're like,
I don't feel like this is doing anything. I'll have
another one. And then all of a sudden and there
was it was still this kind of weird Am I
in trouble? Am I not in trouble? Because this used
to be illegal and I'm not legal, And so we
would show up to these just way overly paranoid forty
(41:40):
somethings that would be like hiding behind things. Yeah, so
I remember that as a phase of the first service.
It was kind of kind of funny. But the beauty
of my job is like, right now, I'm on I'm
on Rescue one in Denver, which is a pretty serious
We go to just about everything and we see a
lot of pretty terrible stuff, but we also see a
(42:01):
lot of good stuff. And then when we're back at
the firehouse, the there's always like things. There's like there'll
be like a personality like yours, or there'll be a
couple of guys that can are just so good at
finding humor in the day, and it's never it's never
about the call, like we're never making fun of like
a person or like you said anything like that, but
(42:23):
a lot of making fun of each other, you know
each other's mistakes, or like we have this one guy
who has big teeth, and we have this one guy
that has a big nose, and like the banter back
and forth much most of it far too inappropriate to
say in a public forum, But it's just that is
the beauty of the job is that you go to
work with a bunch of people that are your friends,
(42:43):
and you you go and you do these you accomplish
these tasks that sometimes turn out really well and sometimes don't,
but you always come back to this group of people
that you really love and care for and that support you.
And I think that's what keeps people coming back. It's
it's like the job is the job, and it's fun
and you feel there's some purpose and some it's a
(43:05):
there's a rewarding aspect to the actual job of a firefighter. Yeah,
but ninety percent of the time we're not doing that.
We're hanging out with each other training and cooking and
all these sorts of like sort of household type things. Yeah,
and that camaraderie and friendship is really special. Is what
makes the job really special and so there probably are
(43:27):
a million different memories like that that hopefully someday I'll
be able to like sit down and really recall, yeah
and remember. But just the overriding impression and the reason
why I've been at this job for like almost thirty
years is because of that component of it.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
Sure, which I'm sure is an extension of your sports
years and everything else. Right, it's kind of that same
type of camaraderie and bonding and sure kind of like
what we had in the Batsrette house, you know, honestly
it really is.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
Yeah, Well, dude, I love you, man.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
I always love when we get to get together like this,
and I always love when we get to hang out
a little bit. And I obviously spend a lot more
time talking with your wife than I do with you.
But I've always really cherished these moments, and I treasure
the time we get to spend together. And thanks for
always being such a good friend to me, and for
being supportive of all that, for always being cool with
me walking the red carpet with your wife, and you
(44:16):
and my wife are hanging out at the end with
cocktails waiting for us. So but I love you, buddy,
I appreciate you I appreciate you making the.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Time to come and be a part of the show.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
I think a lot of people are really gonna enjoy
getting to hear you talk a little bit about the
things that you have taken away from this experience, because
it is a unique one. Even though there's been thirty
some seasons of it, it's still a pretty unique thing.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
For people to get to go through. I'm glad I
got to go go through it with you.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
Thank you, Bob Bla. Likewise, I'll love you too.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
I love you, buddy.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
We have had a great time here today, of course,
catching up with my great friend Ryan Sutter.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
I think what we're gonna do right now.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
You know, we are in this incredibly beautiful Lake Tahoe
Verbo mansion. It's called the River House in Lake Tahoe.
It is absolutely unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
You know.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Verbo's Last Minute deals are live on the Verbo app
and website showing track Tveler is nearly three hundred thousand
discount properties.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
Take a book within thirty days to check in.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
I'm just gonna tell you right now, if you can
get yourself to Lake Tahoe, get to the river House,
you will lose your mind.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
It is absolutely beautiful.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
There's several destinations with plenty of last minute booking options,
including Hilton Head, South Carolina, Cape cod Massachusetts.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
I'm going there soon, San Diego, Portavarda, which.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
I love, and of course right here Lake Tahoe, inside
our lovely Verbo. Fighting these deals is simple with the
Last Minute Booking filter and industry first for vacation rentals.
Discount of vacation rentals are also labeled with a last
Minute badge that displays the total amount travelers can save
on their bookings. Very helpful when you're planning your budget
and when you know you got a bunch of couples coming. Plus,
(45:39):
travelers never have to second guess the total cost or
worry about hidden fees. Verbo displays all mandatory fees in
the upfront price. Thank you, Ryan Sutter, this has been
an absolute blast. I appreciate you being here and thank
you all for listening to the Almost Famous podcast with
Bob Guinea and Trista Sutter nay Rehn.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
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