June 22, 2025 • 19 mins
Amy & T.J. go over the latest details after B-2 stealth bombers target three Iranian nuclear sites, attacking Iran for the first time in history. While the U.S. braces for an Iranian response, the world is weighing in on Trump’s decision to strike.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey there, folks.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
It is Sunday, June twenty second, and a lot of
you went to bed last night, or you went out
last night thinking everything was cool, and you woke up
this morning thinking, wait, are.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
We had war?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ, an extra episode,
a Sunday episode we are recording here and Rhodes. I
think that was the case for a lot of people
waking up this morning expression their heads like wait, what's
going on?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
It certainly was not something that anyone was anticipating. And
President Trump, I believe, wanted it that way. You know,
he had said leading up till this weekend, I don't
know what I'm going to do.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
We'll see what I'm going to do.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
He was being coy about what his decision would be
on how to deal with Iran if we were to
join Israel. I don't know that any of us were
expecting this, though I certainly wasn't. The US struck three
nuclear facilities with a fleet of B two stealth bombers,
They had submarine launched cruise missiles, a fighter aircraft as well,
(00:59):
all participating in this, and it happened around two thirty
am Iran time.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
So it's a lot of folks, so you're going to
be seeing a lot. There's a lot of coverage today
Sunday morning shows. It's all that's being talked about. It's
all it's going to be talked about all day, and
what's going to be talked about is what's happening over
the next couple of days. So if you want to
hear the debates, in the back and forth and the
questions about the constitutionality, the president is being obviously soundly
criticized by folks on the other side of the aisle,
(01:24):
saying this is an unconstitutional move. He did not get
congressional approval. They're having those fights. Republicans are shooting and
hollering and yelling and cheering and saying this is something
that buy and Obama should have done. Dah da da da.
That's same thing. If that's a debate you want to hear,
this ain't the place for that. We're going to try
to simplify this for you and break this down to
the very basics, and you kind of got out there.
What were talking about is the who, what, when, where,
(01:45):
how and why? The who is the US versus Iran?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
The what is?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yes has entered the conflict between Iran and Israel BI
launching strikes on nuclear sites in Iran. When last night
where three sites four, toh Fahan and Natans. How they
use those BE twelve bombers and those bunker buster bombs
to do this? Also, US submarines were involved in launched
(02:09):
missiles into Iran. And why the US claims the nuclear
program has the ultimate aim of developing a nuclear bomb
and that is not something they're allowed that the world
we could say it's going to be allowed to do.
So the question now robes is what happens next and
how alert does a US need to be around the world.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
That's correct.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
So a lot of folks say the next forty eight
hours are crucial depending on whether or not Iran.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Decides to retaliate.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
We heard Secretary of State Mark or Rubio saying if
Iran retaliates, it will be the worst mistake they've ever made.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Okay, but it's.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Unclear if they feel weakened, they feel like, hey, we
want to come to the table, we want to come
and negotiate, or do they feel embarrassed or emboldened to
strike back.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
And the truth is what their capabilities are. We don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Trump initially said when he announced this to the world
that he had or we had completely obliterated the nuclear
abilities or capabilities of Iran, and the Pentagon has dialed
that back a little bit, saying it's too early to
know what ability they may still have, but certainly we
severely damaged those sites. So it's unclear what even Iran
(03:19):
has in its arsenal in terms of retaliation. And then
there's also the note that we've got forty thousand or
so troops stationed around the world that are within missile
reach of Iran, so could they retaliate that way? And
then even here in the homeland, in New York City,
the NYPD has announced that there's enhanced security at religious
and cultural and diplomatic sites around the city, and I'm
sure that's happening in other parts of this country as well.
(03:40):
So there's a lot of question marks, and frankly, there's
a lot of fear out there. I know that I
feel slightly on edge just knowing that we've entered into
this war and we don't know what this country's going
to do. No president of this country has directly attacked
Iran before. We don't know what comes next.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Well, but the US, all of us wondering and waiting
in the meantime, you're going to hear some pretty severe language.
There is going to be some pretty harsh rhetoric, that
rhetoric that's going to scare the hell out of all
of you when we hear it. A lot of this
is posturing. We understand, we get it, but to hear
(04:21):
it and to know what all these countries now their
military capabilities and what they have been willing to do
in the past week. Again, we're here because Israel launched
a preemptive strike on Iran's nuclear capabilities about what a
week and a half ago, almost that was a two
fridays ago. So they've been exchanging and lobbying missiles back
and forth at each other. You take this conflict Israel
(04:44):
versus Iran, Israel versus Hamas, Russia versus Ukraine, and it's
just kind of we seem to be at an unstable
point in the world right now, and it's not, and
it's very uncomfortable. It seems so far away, it seems
so foreign to us. But this is now. You have
US forces directly involved in what some are calling, Yes,
(05:08):
we are at war with Iran. Jd Vance specifically say
we are not at war with Iran. He said that
this one. He said, we're at war with Iran's nuclear program.
But Iran has said some of this. Foreign ministers said
the US has now crossed a very big red line
and that we'll have everlasting consequences, and that Iran now
reserves all options to retaliate. That's just scary talk.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
It's very scary.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
I know.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
One thing.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Hopefully, or at least getting the world involved could potentially
hopefully get some of this rhetoric down and perhaps getting
people to the table. The UN Security Council is holding
an emergency meeting.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
They just announced it. It's going to happen at three pm.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Eastern Times as of this recording, a few hours from now.
But Tehran asked for this, and they want the UN
Security Council to condemn the actions of the United States,
and they want support from the international community in terms
of what happened overnight, and they want the world to
weigh in. And so we'll see what happens at that
(06:10):
UN Security Council meeting this afternoon, if anything at all.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
The Secretary of General has already weighed in and has
condemned what the US has done, and he said, quote,
there is a growing risk now that this conflict could
rapidly get out of control with catastrophic consequence. Was for civilians,
the region, and the world. Russia even came out and condemned.
Obviously Russia has been a partner with Iran on many things,
(06:34):
but that form, mister came out and strongly condemned what
the US has done, SAIDs it grows violation of international law.
It's kind of something that you hear some Democrats at
least whot and holler about right now. This is a
violation of law, international law and the US Constitution. He
was not supposed to do this. He is not the
first president to go at it alone without congressional authorization.
We do know that. But you see some of those
(06:55):
typical back and forth happening. But right now it's again,
this ain't the podcast for you if you want to
to some of those political debates, but right now we're
just trying to give you what happened and where we
are and some of the details of this operation. You remember,
I can't remember which day it was, but we all
got word that B two bombers were moving from the
US and being positioned in Guam. Those headlines came out
(07:16):
several days ago, and we learned today now rogues at
the that was just a ruse. That was an actual
decoy to throw off Iran and throw off the world
about what they were going to do. Those b two
bombers left from Missouri base there flew to Guam. Everybody's saying, Okay,
they're getting positioned, they're getting ready for something. They said
(07:37):
that was just to throw people off, So it some
gamesmanship was even done. So we're getting some interesting details
about how this all came about.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Yeah, and it is remarkable what took place and the
reaction that's happening. You know, we think we talk about
Iran retaliating, but certainly there are plenty of militias and
militants in the Middle East in the region who have
Iran's backing and have threatened the United States in the
ways that they can. Even we're hearing from Yemens, Iran
(08:04):
backed Huthi militia threatened to attack American ships in the
Red Sea if the US attacked Iran. There are ways
in which we could see retaliation, not even just from
Iran itself, but from some of the groups around the
region who are defending Iran, and this is deeply concerning.
If for anyone who has loved ones who are serving
in this military overseas, yes, it's a little scary here
(08:26):
back at home, but I can't imagine what those folks
are going through right now this morning, imagining that their
loved ones are out there defending our country but now
are at even more risk than ever before given the
actions of President Trump.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
And we told this is not supposed to be a
protracted This is not expected to be a protracted involvement
by the United States. That's what they say. But we
have to wait to see what Iran does. The President
certainly did Iran did warn Iran last night in his
speech at the White House at ten o'clock Eastern time,
do not retaliate. We just hit you, but don't you
(09:00):
dare hit back. Because the President put everybody on notice
that he was going to be willing to take further
steps if needed. But at this point it doesn't appear
the US this was a move to hurt their nuclear
program and try to get them back to the table.
It seems a weird thing to do. Let me, I'm
gonna bomb you and now don't do anything but come
to the table and talk. That was the plan. And look,
(09:22):
after all this is going on, we still don't know
how badly the nuclear capabilities of Iron have been impacted.
There are no independent folks who can go in there
and check. And there were some reports that Iran ahead
of time moved a lot of their nuclear material out
of some of these facilities ahead of time. So we
just don't know. But this this bunker bunker buster bombs,
(09:44):
these things ropes are fascinating. We've been hearing so much
about them. These they've been used now for the first
time in combat. But the V two bombers and the
bunker buster, this is the height of US military capability,
technology and advancement.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Yeah, and where are we the only, if not one
of the only We're the only country I thought that
was true who has this type of bomb Because this Foidah,
especially this Foidah facility that you've heard a lot about
if you've been paying attention, Israel was not able to
penetrate it. This is basically inside a mountain, and so
we were the only ones who had the type of
(10:16):
bomb that could get in there and actually destroy what
we were able to do in their millet in their
excuse me there, in their nuclear program in this mountain.
So yes, if they moved some of it, fine, but
that was their safest place. It was a secret actual
actually until President Obama was able to point out in
two thousand and nine, we realized, we found out that
(10:38):
they were all of this while while they were saying
they were ending the nuclear program, actually underground in this mountain,
working on it feverishly. And so this is the main area,
this Foidah facility, that we were able to penetrate at
least and cause some damage. We obviously don't know how
much damage.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
These things are absolutely fascinating. I couldn't get a price
tag on the bombs, but they said they dropped fourteen
of these bunker busters. Give you an idea that sounds wild,
But these things are thirty thousand pounds each. I was
trying to get some kind of context for that, and
it was difficult to do so. But the B two
bomber is the only one can carry the damn thing.
(11:26):
You can't drop this bomb any other way than with
this B two bomber, this stealth bomber. This thing is Look,
you've seen some of these on TV. This is one
sexy looking piece of machinery. It's just the jet black
Stealth Fighter B two bomber, so you know what that
looks like. But this bunker buster is thirty thousand pounds.
I was trying to find some context. A Chevrolet Suburban,
which is probably the biggest vehicle you'll see on the
(11:49):
road today, weighs about sixty five hundred pounds. So these
bombs are about the equivalent of five Chevrolet suburbans in weight.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
And these B two bombers they cost the US military
two point one billion dollars per bomb, per plane. So
the bomb, yeah, not the bombs themselves, but the planes
that are carrying these bombs are two billion dollar planes.
It's incredible the effort we put into protecting this country
at times, and the money when we talk about Pentagon
(12:20):
budgets and all this stuff. Folks, this was one mission
that took moments, and the type of capability and your
taxpayer dollars were, I assure you on those planes and
on those bombs. It's just fascinating what the military is
capable of doing.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
It certainly is and.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Obviously they were able to zero in on their targets.
But the concern is, as we hear Hexa say, and
you mentioned that we don't want to prolong conflict, what
Iran does next is going to absolutely determine the way forward.
And it's also disturbing because, look, there was hope that
there was going to be a negotiated solution to end
(12:59):
the fire in between Israel and Iran, and there was
talk that Iran was in some way communicating indirectly with
the United States open to some sort of negotiation. So
I don't know, we don't know what set Trump off,
what made him make this decision. He had mentioned at
one point that he would wait for as long as
two weeks to give diplomacy a chance, and then suddenly,
(13:21):
out of nowhere, bam, we strike Iran. And so this
is certainly concerning because how does Iran come to the
table after this? How does Iran say, okay, let's negotiate now.
That seems like something that wouldn't happen after something like this.
They would be angry. They would want to retaliate, they
would want to defend, they would want to show their prowess.
(13:42):
They would want to say, hey, yeah, and we're not
going to let you United States bully us. We're not
going to let you Israel bully us. And that's just
deeply disturbing, just on a human level. You're thinking, I'm
thinking about it like that. As a human being, the
reaction when someone hits you is to hit back. It's
not to come to them tootiating table. It's not to say,
let's figure this out peacefully after you've been attacked.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
They're not going to win. Everybody knows Iran cannot in.
Iran knows that you can't defeat the United States. So
what is going to be their ultimate goal do not know,
but they have several options that the rhetoric suggests. I'll
give you a couple of things here from the foreign
minister we talked about earlier, but also the Iranian president.
In some of the language they're using against the US,
(14:25):
it says the US has launched a dangerous war against Iran.
The world must not forget that it was the United States,
during an ongoing diplomatic process, that betrayed diplomacy by supporting
the aggressive actions of the genocidal and lawless Israeli regime.
This is from the foreign minister who says the US
(14:45):
is also warmongering and has a lawless administration in Washington
that is solely and fully responsible for the dangerous consequences
and this act of aggression. So right now, again this
is so so fresh, and the responses are coming out
right now that are strongly many places condemning what the
US has done. But we have I don't know when
(15:07):
the temperature is going to come down because we're talking
about the US attacking Iran.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, by the way, Iran and Israel are shield attacking
each other. Yeah, that's happening as we speak. Still, that's
going into where we ninth day of that tenth day
of that something like that. It continues. It was uncomfortable
thinking that that more war is ramping up instead of
(15:32):
They've been trying to end what's happening in Ukraine with
Russia for three years. It hasn't happened. We're a year
and a half into Israel versus Gaza that doesn't seem
to have an end. Repeated peace talks on and off
and on and off, and so now here we go
again right with another and the US directly involved. It's
just it's unsettling, is probably the only way to put it.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yeah, that's a good way to put it.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
My stomach feels like it's in not it's just the
not knowing what's next and not knowing how this unfortunately escalates.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
And just a few hours after we attacked.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Iran, Iran launched a new round of missiles towards Israel.
So they heated that back up. And even though the
US says that Iran has depleted its stock pile of
certain types of missiles, Iran still has plenty of other weapons,
including rockets and drones, and so this is not going
away anytime soon.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
And this the President's spoke, of course at the White
House last night, but he did put out a state
and true social is really where things sometimes can get hot.
But this is statement. We have completed our very successful
attack on the three nuclear sites in Iran. All planes
are now outside of Iran airspace. A full payload of
bombs was dropped on the primary site, Foordoh. All planes
(16:43):
are safely on their way home. Congratulations to our great
American warriors. There is not another military in the world
that could have done this. Now is the time for peace.
Thank you for your attention to this matter. That's how
he signed all folks, He said, thank you for your
attention to this matter. It seems odds saying hey, we
just bombed everybody, thanks for listening, and now is the
(17:06):
time for peace. We're done, but now is the time
for peace. I can I'm sure if somebody has done
that as a kid or something. You smack somebody and
then you say, oh, I'm just playing. Okay, let's stop. Stop,
stop planing, stop planning. After you throw a punch. It
was a true social It's always interesting.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Oh my goodness, And we're getting word and this is
going to be happening throughout the day. Today the US
Embassy in Beirut ordering the departure of non emergency personnel
and family members from Lebanon. And this is you know,
several areas around in the Middle East, we have embassies,
we have staff, we have people, and can you imagine
what they must be thinking and going through right now.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
So, yes, the US say is because of.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
The volatile and unpredictable security situation in the region, they're
asking American citizens in Lebanon to exercise caution and monitor
the news. So yes, if you are an ex pat,
or if you are a member of the military, or
you are in any way representing the United States in
the Middle East.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
This has got to be incredibly unsettling.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
So we just wanted to hop on and give you
an update, try to get through a little bit of
the clutter, just let you know exactly where we are,
and I'll end I guess on. I'm not sure what
kind of note I'm ending on, but it's not necessarily
a war note. This just came across in the live
updates from the Associated Press all we were talking about.
Pete Hegseth on Sunday today made a statement saying that
(18:22):
our boys and those bombers are on their way home
right now, and someone corrected him. The Associated Press is
reporting one of the pilots of those BE two bombers
was in fact a woman. I love that, you know what.
Let me just leave it there. That's a nice little nugget,
cool to hear. I don't think heg ssth was saying
anything negative or anything. We just all hand comment our
boys are on the way home. One of the pilots
(18:45):
of those of that be too was a woman.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
So that's the perfect note to end.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I'll leave you with that note.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
I love that, all right, and yes, thank you for
listening to us and of course, we will continue to
drop some episodes if it warrants. We certainly hope you
have a peaceful and wonderful Sunday despite all of the
news in the world.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
But thank you for listening to us.
Hey there, folks.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
It is Sunday, June twenty second, and a lot of
you went to bed last night, or you went out
last night thinking everything was cool, and you woke up
this morning thinking, wait, are.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
We had war?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ, an extra episode,
a Sunday episode we are recording here and Rhodes. I
think that was the case for a lot of people
waking up this morning expression their heads like wait, what's
going on?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
It certainly was not something that anyone was anticipating. And
President Trump, I believe, wanted it that way. You know,
he had said leading up till this weekend, I don't
know what I'm going to do.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
We'll see what I'm going to do.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
He was being coy about what his decision would be
on how to deal with Iran if we were to
join Israel. I don't know that any of us were
expecting this, though I certainly wasn't. The US struck three
nuclear facilities with a fleet of B two stealth bombers,
They had submarine launched cruise missiles, a fighter aircraft as well,
(00:59):
all participating in this, and it happened around two thirty
am Iran time.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
So it's a lot of folks, so you're going to
be seeing a lot. There's a lot of coverage today
Sunday morning shows. It's all that's being talked about. It's
all it's going to be talked about all day, and
what's going to be talked about is what's happening over
the next couple of days. So if you want to
hear the debates, in the back and forth and the
questions about the constitutionality, the president is being obviously soundly
criticized by folks on the other side of the aisle,
(01:24):
saying this is an unconstitutional move. He did not get
congressional approval. They're having those fights. Republicans are shooting and
hollering and yelling and cheering and saying this is something
that buy and Obama should have done. Dah da da da.
That's same thing. If that's a debate you want to hear,
this ain't the place for that. We're going to try
to simplify this for you and break this down to
the very basics, and you kind of got out there.
What were talking about is the who, what, when, where,
(01:45):
how and why? The who is the US versus Iran?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
The what is?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yes has entered the conflict between Iran and Israel BI
launching strikes on nuclear sites in Iran. When last night
where three sites four, toh Fahan and Natans. How they
use those BE twelve bombers and those bunker buster bombs
to do this? Also, US submarines were involved in launched
(02:09):
missiles into Iran. And why the US claims the nuclear
program has the ultimate aim of developing a nuclear bomb
and that is not something they're allowed that the world
we could say it's going to be allowed to do.
So the question now robes is what happens next and
how alert does a US need to be around the world.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
That's correct.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
So a lot of folks say the next forty eight
hours are crucial depending on whether or not Iran.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Decides to retaliate.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
We heard Secretary of State Mark or Rubio saying if
Iran retaliates, it will be the worst mistake they've ever made.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Okay, but it's.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Unclear if they feel weakened, they feel like, hey, we
want to come to the table, we want to come
and negotiate, or do they feel embarrassed or emboldened to
strike back.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
And the truth is what their capabilities are. We don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Trump initially said when he announced this to the world
that he had or we had completely obliterated the nuclear
abilities or capabilities of Iran, and the Pentagon has dialed
that back a little bit, saying it's too early to
know what ability they may still have, but certainly we
severely damaged those sites. So it's unclear what even Iran
(03:19):
has in its arsenal in terms of retaliation. And then
there's also the note that we've got forty thousand or
so troops stationed around the world that are within missile
reach of Iran, so could they retaliate that way? And
then even here in the homeland, in New York City,
the NYPD has announced that there's enhanced security at religious
and cultural and diplomatic sites around the city, and I'm
sure that's happening in other parts of this country as well.
(03:40):
So there's a lot of question marks, and frankly, there's
a lot of fear out there. I know that I
feel slightly on edge just knowing that we've entered into
this war and we don't know what this country's going
to do. No president of this country has directly attacked
Iran before. We don't know what comes next.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Well, but the US, all of us wondering and waiting
in the meantime, you're going to hear some pretty severe language.
There is going to be some pretty harsh rhetoric, that
rhetoric that's going to scare the hell out of all
of you when we hear it. A lot of this
is posturing. We understand, we get it, but to hear
(04:21):
it and to know what all these countries now their
military capabilities and what they have been willing to do
in the past week. Again, we're here because Israel launched
a preemptive strike on Iran's nuclear capabilities about what a
week and a half ago, almost that was a two
fridays ago. So they've been exchanging and lobbying missiles back
and forth at each other. You take this conflict Israel
(04:44):
versus Iran, Israel versus Hamas, Russia versus Ukraine, and it's
just kind of we seem to be at an unstable
point in the world right now, and it's not, and
it's very uncomfortable. It seems so far away, it seems
so foreign to us. But this is now. You have
US forces directly involved in what some are calling, Yes,
(05:08):
we are at war with Iran. Jd Vance specifically say
we are not at war with Iran. He said that
this one. He said, we're at war with Iran's nuclear program.
But Iran has said some of this. Foreign ministers said
the US has now crossed a very big red line
and that we'll have everlasting consequences, and that Iran now
reserves all options to retaliate. That's just scary talk.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
It's very scary.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
I know.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
One thing.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Hopefully, or at least getting the world involved could potentially
hopefully get some of this rhetoric down and perhaps getting
people to the table. The UN Security Council is holding
an emergency meeting.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
They just announced it. It's going to happen at three pm.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Eastern Times as of this recording, a few hours from now.
But Tehran asked for this, and they want the UN
Security Council to condemn the actions of the United States,
and they want support from the international community in terms
of what happened overnight, and they want the world to
weigh in. And so we'll see what happens at that
(06:10):
UN Security Council meeting this afternoon, if anything at all.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
The Secretary of General has already weighed in and has
condemned what the US has done, and he said, quote,
there is a growing risk now that this conflict could
rapidly get out of control with catastrophic consequence. Was for civilians,
the region, and the world. Russia even came out and condemned.
Obviously Russia has been a partner with Iran on many things,
(06:34):
but that form, mister came out and strongly condemned what
the US has done, SAIDs it grows violation of international law.
It's kind of something that you hear some Democrats at
least whot and holler about right now. This is a
violation of law, international law and the US Constitution. He
was not supposed to do this. He is not the
first president to go at it alone without congressional authorization.
We do know that. But you see some of those
(06:55):
typical back and forth happening. But right now it's again,
this ain't the podcast for you if you want to
to some of those political debates, but right now we're
just trying to give you what happened and where we
are and some of the details of this operation. You remember,
I can't remember which day it was, but we all
got word that B two bombers were moving from the
US and being positioned in Guam. Those headlines came out
(07:16):
several days ago, and we learned today now rogues at
the that was just a ruse. That was an actual
decoy to throw off Iran and throw off the world
about what they were going to do. Those b two
bombers left from Missouri base there flew to Guam. Everybody's saying, Okay,
they're getting positioned, they're getting ready for something. They said
(07:37):
that was just to throw people off, So it some
gamesmanship was even done. So we're getting some interesting details
about how this all came about.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Yeah, and it is remarkable what took place and the
reaction that's happening. You know, we think we talk about
Iran retaliating, but certainly there are plenty of militias and
militants in the Middle East in the region who have
Iran's backing and have threatened the United States in the
ways that they can. Even we're hearing from Yemens, Iran
(08:04):
backed Huthi militia threatened to attack American ships in the
Red Sea if the US attacked Iran. There are ways
in which we could see retaliation, not even just from
Iran itself, but from some of the groups around the
region who are defending Iran, and this is deeply concerning.
If for anyone who has loved ones who are serving
in this military overseas, yes, it's a little scary here
(08:26):
back at home, but I can't imagine what those folks
are going through right now this morning, imagining that their
loved ones are out there defending our country but now
are at even more risk than ever before given the
actions of President Trump.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
And we told this is not supposed to be a
protracted This is not expected to be a protracted involvement
by the United States. That's what they say. But we
have to wait to see what Iran does. The President
certainly did Iran did warn Iran last night in his
speech at the White House at ten o'clock Eastern time,
do not retaliate. We just hit you, but don't you
(09:00):
dare hit back. Because the President put everybody on notice
that he was going to be willing to take further
steps if needed. But at this point it doesn't appear
the US this was a move to hurt their nuclear
program and try to get them back to the table.
It seems a weird thing to do. Let me, I'm
gonna bomb you and now don't do anything but come
to the table and talk. That was the plan. And look,
(09:22):
after all this is going on, we still don't know
how badly the nuclear capabilities of Iron have been impacted.
There are no independent folks who can go in there
and check. And there were some reports that Iran ahead
of time moved a lot of their nuclear material out
of some of these facilities ahead of time. So we
just don't know. But this this bunker bunker buster bombs,
(09:44):
these things ropes are fascinating. We've been hearing so much
about them. These they've been used now for the first
time in combat. But the V two bombers and the
bunker buster, this is the height of US military capability,
technology and advancement.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Yeah, and where are we the only, if not one
of the only We're the only country I thought that
was true who has this type of bomb Because this Foidah,
especially this Foidah facility that you've heard a lot about
if you've been paying attention, Israel was not able to
penetrate it. This is basically inside a mountain, and so
we were the only ones who had the type of
(10:16):
bomb that could get in there and actually destroy what
we were able to do in their millet in their
excuse me there, in their nuclear program in this mountain.
So yes, if they moved some of it, fine, but
that was their safest place. It was a secret actual
actually until President Obama was able to point out in
two thousand and nine, we realized, we found out that
(10:38):
they were all of this while while they were saying
they were ending the nuclear program, actually underground in this mountain,
working on it feverishly. And so this is the main area,
this Foidah facility, that we were able to penetrate at
least and cause some damage. We obviously don't know how
much damage.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
These things are absolutely fascinating. I couldn't get a price
tag on the bombs, but they said they dropped fourteen
of these bunker busters. Give you an idea that sounds wild,
But these things are thirty thousand pounds each. I was
trying to get some kind of context for that, and
it was difficult to do so. But the B two
bomber is the only one can carry the damn thing.
(11:26):
You can't drop this bomb any other way than with
this B two bomber, this stealth bomber. This thing is Look,
you've seen some of these on TV. This is one
sexy looking piece of machinery. It's just the jet black
Stealth Fighter B two bomber, so you know what that
looks like. But this bunker buster is thirty thousand pounds.
I was trying to find some context. A Chevrolet Suburban,
which is probably the biggest vehicle you'll see on the
(11:49):
road today, weighs about sixty five hundred pounds. So these
bombs are about the equivalent of five Chevrolet suburbans in weight.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
And these B two bombers they cost the US military
two point one billion dollars per bomb, per plane. So
the bomb, yeah, not the bombs themselves, but the planes
that are carrying these bombs are two billion dollar planes.
It's incredible the effort we put into protecting this country
at times, and the money when we talk about Pentagon
(12:20):
budgets and all this stuff. Folks, this was one mission
that took moments, and the type of capability and your
taxpayer dollars were, I assure you on those planes and
on those bombs. It's just fascinating what the military is
capable of doing.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
It certainly is and.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Obviously they were able to zero in on their targets.
But the concern is, as we hear Hexa say, and
you mentioned that we don't want to prolong conflict, what
Iran does next is going to absolutely determine the way forward.
And it's also disturbing because, look, there was hope that
there was going to be a negotiated solution to end
(12:59):
the fire in between Israel and Iran, and there was
talk that Iran was in some way communicating indirectly with
the United States open to some sort of negotiation. So
I don't know, we don't know what set Trump off,
what made him make this decision. He had mentioned at
one point that he would wait for as long as
two weeks to give diplomacy a chance, and then suddenly,
(13:21):
out of nowhere, bam, we strike Iran. And so this
is certainly concerning because how does Iran come to the
table after this? How does Iran say, okay, let's negotiate now.
That seems like something that wouldn't happen after something like this.
They would be angry. They would want to retaliate, they
would want to defend, they would want to show their prowess.
(13:42):
They would want to say, hey, yeah, and we're not
going to let you United States bully us. We're not
going to let you Israel bully us. And that's just
deeply disturbing, just on a human level. You're thinking, I'm
thinking about it like that. As a human being, the
reaction when someone hits you is to hit back. It's
not to come to them tootiating table. It's not to say,
let's figure this out peacefully after you've been attacked.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
They're not going to win. Everybody knows Iran cannot in.
Iran knows that you can't defeat the United States. So
what is going to be their ultimate goal do not know,
but they have several options that the rhetoric suggests. I'll
give you a couple of things here from the foreign
minister we talked about earlier, but also the Iranian president.
In some of the language they're using against the US,
(14:25):
it says the US has launched a dangerous war against Iran.
The world must not forget that it was the United States,
during an ongoing diplomatic process, that betrayed diplomacy by supporting
the aggressive actions of the genocidal and lawless Israeli regime.
This is from the foreign minister who says the US
(14:45):
is also warmongering and has a lawless administration in Washington
that is solely and fully responsible for the dangerous consequences
and this act of aggression. So right now, again this
is so so fresh, and the responses are coming out
right now that are strongly many places condemning what the
US has done. But we have I don't know when
(15:07):
the temperature is going to come down because we're talking
about the US attacking Iran.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yeah, by the way, Iran and Israel are shield attacking
each other. Yeah, that's happening as we speak. Still, that's
going into where we ninth day of that tenth day
of that something like that. It continues. It was uncomfortable
thinking that that more war is ramping up instead of
(15:32):
They've been trying to end what's happening in Ukraine with
Russia for three years. It hasn't happened. We're a year
and a half into Israel versus Gaza that doesn't seem
to have an end. Repeated peace talks on and off
and on and off, and so now here we go
again right with another and the US directly involved. It's
just it's unsettling, is probably the only way to put it.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yeah, that's a good way to put it.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
My stomach feels like it's in not it's just the
not knowing what's next and not knowing how this unfortunately escalates.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
And just a few hours after we attacked.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Iran, Iran launched a new round of missiles towards Israel.
So they heated that back up. And even though the
US says that Iran has depleted its stock pile of
certain types of missiles, Iran still has plenty of other weapons,
including rockets and drones, and so this is not going
away anytime soon.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
And this the President's spoke, of course at the White
House last night, but he did put out a state
and true social is really where things sometimes can get hot.
But this is statement. We have completed our very successful
attack on the three nuclear sites in Iran. All planes
are now outside of Iran airspace. A full payload of
bombs was dropped on the primary site, Foordoh. All planes
(16:43):
are safely on their way home. Congratulations to our great
American warriors. There is not another military in the world
that could have done this. Now is the time for peace.
Thank you for your attention to this matter. That's how
he signed all folks, He said, thank you for your
attention to this matter. It seems odds saying hey, we
just bombed everybody, thanks for listening, and now is the
(17:06):
time for peace. We're done, but now is the time
for peace. I can I'm sure if somebody has done
that as a kid or something. You smack somebody and
then you say, oh, I'm just playing. Okay, let's stop. Stop,
stop planing, stop planning. After you throw a punch. It
was a true social It's always interesting.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Oh my goodness, And we're getting word and this is
going to be happening throughout the day. Today the US
Embassy in Beirut ordering the departure of non emergency personnel
and family members from Lebanon. And this is you know,
several areas around in the Middle East, we have embassies,
we have staff, we have people, and can you imagine
what they must be thinking and going through right now.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
So, yes, the US say is because of.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
The volatile and unpredictable security situation in the region, they're
asking American citizens in Lebanon to exercise caution and monitor
the news. So yes, if you are an ex pat,
or if you are a member of the military, or
you are in any way representing the United States in
the Middle East.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
This has got to be incredibly unsettling.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
So we just wanted to hop on and give you
an update, try to get through a little bit of
the clutter, just let you know exactly where we are,
and I'll end I guess on. I'm not sure what
kind of note I'm ending on, but it's not necessarily
a war note. This just came across in the live
updates from the Associated Press all we were talking about.
Pete Hegseth on Sunday today made a statement saying that
(18:22):
our boys and those bombers are on their way home
right now, and someone corrected him. The Associated Press is
reporting one of the pilots of those BE two bombers
was in fact a woman. I love that, you know what.
Let me just leave it there. That's a nice little nugget,
cool to hear. I don't think heg ssth was saying
anything negative or anything. We just all hand comment our
boys are on the way home. One of the pilots
(18:45):
of those of that be too was a woman.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
So that's the perfect note to end.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I'll leave you with that note.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
I love that, all right, and yes, thank you for
listening to us and of course, we will continue to
drop some episodes if it warrants. We certainly hope you
have a peaceful and wonderful Sunday despite all of the
news in the world.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
But thank you for listening to us.
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