July 17, 2025 • 22 mins
You heard her name throughout the Diddy trial, and you definitely know her last name from her well known father, former FBI director James Comey. After 10 years with the Southern District of Manhattan, Lead Prosecutor Maurene Comey was suddenly fired this week. While no official reason has been given, Amy and T.J. discuss all the reasons why President Trump may have had a personal hand in letting her go.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, they're folks. It is Thursday, July seventeenth, and the
lead prosecutor who brought the case against Sean Ditty Combs
has been fired. Forget this. Nobody thinks it has anything
to do with the fact that she essentially lost that case.
Welcome everybody to this episode of Amy and TJ. Robes
have been We followed that case so closely, the Ditty trial.
(00:23):
We wake up, see the headlines Marine Komi has been fired,
so we automatically obviously she's been top of mind for
three months now with this case. But it has nothing
to do with Ditty.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
They're arguing, right, Well, it's funny because obviously that's where
we've heard her name most recently, most often. And yes,
Diddy was acquitted of the most serious charges. So my mind,
fresh on top of my mind, was that she must
have been fired because of that. But when you look
at the headlines every single news outlet, they don't even
mention Didty. In the headlines they mentioned her father, who
(00:59):
I actually, I'm going to admit I did not know.
But now it makes a lot of sense that the
former FBI director James Comy is her father. Yes, that
same former FBI director who Trump cannot stand and who
cannot stand Trump. Do you think, well, maybe just you know,
a few writings in the sand might have just illustrated
(01:20):
perhaps we can get into that there beef that has continued,
and now he's actually being investigated, So we digress. But yes,
the Epstein, the Epstein case. She was a lead prosecutor
in the Jeffrey Epstein case and the Gallaine Maxwell case.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
And she won the Glaine Maxwell case. We don't know
what would have happened with Epstein. Of course, he died
in prison by suicide, but the did He trial?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Did he?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Though? Did he?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
I'm kidding, don't you start that stuff now?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Sorry, I was just turning the pot. Sturn the pot.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
They said he died by suicide. Okay, but the did
He trial? This was a stinging defeat for that office,
and office that doesn't lose a lot. This was a
very high profile loss for them. Loss meaning he got
off on the most serious charges. But you look at
that and they, I mean they had egg on their face.
They looked bad. So when you think, like wow, it
almost made sense. Take away the Glain Maxwell, excuse me,
(02:13):
take away the Epstein and the Komi stuff. But her Dad,
is that it's not supposed to be a fireable offense
to lose a case.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Well, yes, I mean, if you're a prosecutor and you
have to fear losing your job each and every time
you lose a case, that would be an untenable position
to hold because you'd be in constant worry and under
constant threat that you were going to be fired.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
So that can't be the case.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Also, of note, which was confusing when we first heard
this this morning that she had been fired. There's still
a lot of work to be done in the prosecutor's office.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
This case is not over.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Sentencing still has to take place, and then of course
there is going to be an appeal. So why not
have your prosecutor, you're one of your lead prosecutors, who
knows the case backwards and forwards, continue to see it through,
at least through SENI and seeing, but also with the
appeals that are absolutely.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Sure to come.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
We know as recently as a couple I mean, who
knows how many days it's been, as of a couple
of weeks, she was talking to the judge and submitting
paperwork having to do with ditty. She was very much
active in seeing this thing through. She's out of there.
Now what that does to that case, I don't know
what impact that could have. But for us to have
watched her and to have kept up with her and
(03:26):
kept up with that trial, our miles kind of dropped
that the person who has been leading this charge and
still a lot of fighting, fighting and back and forth
between Diddy's lawyers and the prosecutors still to be done,
and the person leading the charge is out of there.
But all of that said, so, I don't see anywhere
where anybody is suggesting that her firing has anything to
(03:47):
do with Sean Diecombs.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
No. In fact, I haven't seen one or heard one
mention of it. They've just thrown out there oh yes,
and by the way, it was almost, oh, we forgot
to mention she was also the lead prosecutor in the
recent Ditty trial.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
It was not at the top.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Of anyone's minds in terms of why she possibly could
have been fired, and it hasn't been stated directly. No
one has said why she has been fired, although it
has been interesting reading so many of these articles about
why she was fired, and they did talk about a
memo that was accompanying her firing, and it was referring
(04:28):
to a power of the president, so it did certainly
imply so there was a memo, according to sources, that
she was being dismissed pursuant to Article two of the
US Constitution. Article two of the US Constitution is the
portion of the Constitution that lays out the president's powers.
So one could infer people have been inferring that perhaps
(04:50):
this goes all the way up to President Trump.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
And look, the President has been on a firing spree
at the Justice Department since he came back into office
because so many the folks there was named Jack Smith,
had investigations, a couple of investigations into President Trump before
he became president again, and I mean dozens of folks
at the Justice Department have been let go, including prosecutors,
(05:14):
people who worked on those investigations. So it's not odd
to see that the president has fired somebody from the
Justice Department. However, who this woman is, Maureen Comy. Yes,
you maybe only got to know her because of the
Diddy trial, But folks, we assure you this woman is
a stud in that office. She is a top prosecutor.
You don't get plucked and selected to try Diddy to
(05:37):
try Epstein and to try Gallaine Maxwell. If you don't
know what you're doing. She got those rolls. Those she
knows what she's doing, and they have a stellar record,
they say, winning record at the Southern District where she works.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
So yeah, for ten years she's been working there. Harvard
Law graduate, obviously knows what she's doing. Comes from a
family who is very well entrenched in politics and big
stories and certainly big cases. This is nothing that she
would have ever shied away from, and was seemingly not
just fit for the job, but very qualified for the job.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
This is a capable lady. Yes, this is a very
capable woman. And reminder at the trial, at least the
highlights frobes. You just reminded me a moment ago before
we started recording. She handled a lot of the questioning
of Jane. Who didn't Jane spend the most time on
the stand.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
She was up there longer than Cassi, even Toura fine
was she was up there longer than me. I was,
so yes, Jane I believe was the witness who testified
the longest, and it did he trial.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
So she handled some of that questioning and Rose is
not I mean, I don't want to say they put
all they weighed too much with this. But the last
voice that the jury heard before they went for deliberation
deliberations Maureen Comy, because she handled the closing rebuttal. She
was the last person to make an art argument to
(07:00):
the jury, and.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
She actually took on a little bit of the snark
that we saw from the defense team, because yes, Mark Agnifhillo, Yes,
nailed his name finally after weeks and weeks of saying it.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Who's the guy that plays with Oklahoma City.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Thunder Shae.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Shae something with gorgeous Shay.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
I can't sorry for the folks, but if you've kept
up with us, Robes has been working all season on
Shay Gildos Alexander Alexander.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I just won the tongue yet, No, I got Shay
right because I was calling him shy first, So Shae
gilgis Alexander. But yes, we digress talking about Mark agn
So anyway, Mark Agnifillo in his closing arguments, if you remember,
was very theatrical, very animated, very sarcastic, uh cracking jokes
(07:53):
and poking fun at the prosecution's case against Ditty, and
it resonated with her and I'm sure the prosecuted prosecutor's office,
who had a fairly dry closing argument.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
She came up.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Marine Komi comes up then for the rebuttal, and she
starts getting animated, and she starts kind of mirroring a
little bit of what we saw from Mark Agnaphillo.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
So she knew what to do and she brought it home.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
They always say you save your best for last right,
so she yes, she was the final voice of the
prosecution for the ditty trial.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
And here we are. I don't think anyone was calling
for her to be fired. There wasn't some huge somebody
going off out there, some huge public outcry about she
should lose her job because she didn't get the convictions
for dating. Nobody was saying that. However, people have Rob's
been calling for her to be fired for a different reason,
(08:47):
and that is because she handled the Jeffrey Epstein case.
She just happens to be tied up now in what
Trump's tied up in, which is a Mago revolt that
I'm sure you all and seeing the President has gone
off on some of his supporters, even calling them past
supporters who are following for this Maga hoax excuse me
this Epstein hoax from the Democrat, so she now robes out.
(09:11):
I think a lot of people are speculating that she
was just so closely tied to that, and because she was,
and because the president is dealing what he's dealing with
with his supporters, that he's trying to I don't know,
not necessarily scapegoaterer, but kind of wiping the slate clean
to a certain degree of peak, just getting people out.
So they're saying her connection to Epstein is one of
(09:33):
the main reasons she's out of them.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
So earlier this week, Politico actually referenced her in their
article about all of this, about the MAGA uproar folks
just not believing that there isn't an Epstein client list.
They believe there's a cover up. They believe that he
was murdered in prison. They believe he did not die
by suicide. But Maureen Comy had argued and has argued
(09:56):
against the disclosure of these investigative records that are in
the court but are sealed documents. Of course, the MAGA
folks want all of that unsealed. But it makes sense
why Maureene Comy would want these records sealed, because they
believe there's a lot of information in there, and of
course there is a lot of information in there that
should be private. We're talking about sexual assault victims, we're
(10:19):
talking about minors. These are sensitive cases victims of sexual violence.
So that is standard operating procedure. It's not about some
cover up to make sure the public never finds out
what's inside these cases. They're actually trying to protect victims.
And so they also said also of note, and why
she another reason why she might not want any of
these records being released is because Galainne Maxwell is likely
(10:40):
and is going it actually isn't likely, has already appealed
her conviction, so this stuff is going to come back
up during the appeals process that she doesn't want made public.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Everything you said makes sense from a prosecutor standpoint, that's
going to impact my case. If I release all these
documents unseal them. That actually makes sense. Nobody's going to
buy that. No, No, okay, I say conspiracy theorists. They
call themselves truth seekers, fine, and nobody is ever going
to believe. I really do think you could open the
Epstein room with all the files and let the whole
(11:11):
public go in, and nobody is still going to believe
anything other than what they believe, which is that he
was murdered. And there is a long list of influential
people out there that just exists.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Look, and the truth is, I think most people know
or a lot of people have heard about my hot
mic moment. And I had been frustrated at my former
network for not being able to put out these stories
about Jeffrey Epstein before this all came to light with
one of the victims, Virginia.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
And you know, every one of these victims have very.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Different experiences, and they told their truth to police, they
told their truth to the courts, and a lot of
these documents were sealed. So there has been a lot
there has been a major problem with transparency in the
years leading up to Epstein even being arrest and then
put behind bars. But there there's a fair amount of skepticism,
and I would say that it's a fair thing for
(12:06):
a lot of folks to be skeptical about what information
has gotten out because there were a lot of powerful
people implicated or names were brought up, and so then
to just say, oh, nope, there's no list, there's no
indication of any powerful person being on Epstein's computer or
on the payroll or being a part of any on
his planes. Like there's just it's hard to imagine that
(12:28):
there isn't some sort of Maybe there isn't a formal list,
but it's hard to imagine there isn't some sort of
information that does have names on it.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
I get, I don't know. I mean, at this point,
nobody out trust and who do you believe? Who has
seen it? Who knows does it? Is it really just?
I mean the President called it a hoax that by
call me her dad rather changed comy, and President Obama.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
A hoax too, and Biden too to create.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Some just mindset put out there that it's some list
and people you dangle it in front of them like
a rabbit in front of great hand, and they're just
gonna chaste and they're not gonna stop. And it's working
actually if that's the case. But you talk about skepticism,
at what point do skepticism become go from healthy skepticism
to unhealthy?
Speaker 3 (13:12):
That's that's a fair point.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
At what point do you have to believe something or
stop something or I don't know that answer.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Nothing pisses people off more though, I think in this
country and probably around the world to think that powerful
people with a lot of money can protect themselves no
matter what, and you're never gonna find out because they
have enough money and have enough power to protect not
just themselves, but they're other rich, powerful friends and it's
in us versus them situation. And this is how conspiracy
(13:42):
theories begin. And they might begin with truth, but then
they do sometimes balloon and become something larger than they
ever were meant to be. It's just it's tough to
find out where the truth is, you know. I have
skepticism about all of this. I don't know where you stand,
but certainly I do with the interviews that I had
done and the research I had done for several years,
(14:02):
I have skepticism.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
So they might be truthful when they say there isn't
a client list, but it's hard for me to imagine
that there aren't documents, there isn't something, There wasn't something
they found they raided his homes that didn't have some
sort of connection to people who don't want their names
getting out.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
The idea there is that somebody is being protected and
in some way, some powerful person is being protected in
some way, Maureen Comy might have had a hand in
some of that. Even if she isn't conspiring with people
to do it, she's at least saying, we don't want
these documents to get out, and she has her reasons
for it, and so maybe she got caught up in
all that. Now that was one reason they're talking about.
(14:41):
The other reason her daddy.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Welcome back everyone to this edition of Amy and TJ,
where we are talking about more Comy. She has been
fired from her job as a lead prosecutor in the
Southern District of New York. She's been with the office
for ten years. She's the daughter of James Comy. She
was also a lead prosecutor in the Epstein case, in
(15:15):
the Glene Maxwell case, and of course in the Sean
Diddy Comb's case. And a lot of people are just
trying to figure out why why she was suddenly let
go on Wednesday after having all of that experience and
having had a stellar reputation. It's unclear right now, but
a lot of folks are pointing to her father, James Comy.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah, and we have to say that as of this recording,
at least, there has been no official word from anybody
explaining why but it sucks when your last name is Comy. Yeah,
and you work in the Justice Department, which is under
the Trump administration of a president who absolutely hates your dad. Correct,
(15:58):
what is she supposed to do? James has been one
of the top five public nemesis for sure Trump.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
And it only got worse back in May when her father,
James Comy, decided to post something on social media on vacation.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
He was at the beach.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
He should just be enjoying his time off.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
That tells you a lot about this relationship. He's on
the beach on vacation.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Still he Trump, and he's arranging seashells. And he didn't
find them that way as he tried to say, he
just happened upon seashells.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Did he say that he found him the way he said?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
He just he was just saying, I want look what
I found on the beach. I mean, he was probably
saying it with his tongue, tongue.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
In his cheek.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
But still, I mean, we all know he put those
shells in the formation of eight six four seven, eighty
six forty seven.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
You can figure out it's not too hard.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
The eighty six something is to kill something and forty seven,
the number of Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
He's the forty seventh.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
The president states, he's saying, oh, I didn't mean that,
I wasn't trying to incite violence, and look they went.
I do believe that he probably was saying get rid
of forty seven, which also seems a little childish for
the former FBI director to be saying get rid of
Donald Trump with seashells that you know, so you can
say it is silly, stupid mistake. But he actually is
(17:21):
being investigated for a call to violence against like an
assassination attempt against President Trump. That's how seriously the Justice
Department and the FBI said they were taking it.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
So, yes, he is currently under investigation by the Trump
administration for inciting violence against the president of the United States.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Hmm.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Now his daughter just got fired.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
He said it was mad, that was med. So that
was a couple of months ago. This goes back to
friaking twenty seventeen. Trump first term came into office. Call
me Me was the FBI director who had been appointed by
President Obama. Before that, he was in the Justice Department
serving under George W.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Bush.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
So the guy has been around and has some experience.
Trump asked him for his loyalty. The way Comy tells
this story, they were at some event and Trump he
was Trump, and his people asked him they wanted him
to be loyal. He was so disturbed by that interaction
that he went and made like a record of it.
And then over the years he has been slowly putting
(18:28):
out stuff and exposing some of the things from behind
the scenes. He's been highly critical of the President, and
the President eventually fired him. But that history goes back
and forth. We're talking almost that's eight plus years that
these two have been going at it publicly in some way.
Comy wrote a book in where she called the president
ego driven at some point. So these two just don't
(18:50):
like each other. And now the Justice Department, the FBI
questioned him about the Shales thing. But there's another investigation
they've confirmed is going on, having to possibly do with Russia.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
That goes back to twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
What are we These two don't like each Other's what
I'm saying. So if Maureen Comy is working for a
guy who hates her dad, and now the Epstein thing
comes up and Trump is taking all kinds of heat
for that, I got this woman here in the Justice
debarment who was tied to Epstein. I already don't like her, daddy,
and here we are.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Yeah, it's a win win for him.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
He solved two problems by firing Maureen Kmy And that's
just the truth of it.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
And we all know he's not funny. I'm sorry, I
know I laugh at the way you put that.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Cor Obviously, this is awful.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
A woman lost her job. I'm pretty sure she was
passionate about the work she did and she worked really
really hard at it. And so to have it in
this way based on what not your performance, not something
you did, not your record, not your you didn't even
make a misstep and say something stupid. This woman ain't
out there on TV every day.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
She's not saying she kept her.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Head down to the whole thing. She was not seeking publicity.
You have to say that about her. You think about
the Diddy trial, all the publicity seekers there were who
had different roles in there, even if they were like
just satellite roles. She you never heard her ever do anything.
So and look, the two of us, no more than anyone,
(20:14):
what it's like to lose a job from a pr perspective,
and that's exactly what's happening here, and it's you know,
it made me very sad to see that someone who
was qualified and a hard worker and had a stellar
record losing her job because of politics and pr and
perception and maybe even just because of one man.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
And nothing she actually did. It's I don't know this
woman at all now, don't know anything about her background,
nothing else. All I know is that she did her
job and today she's out of that job. Look, she's
gonna be fine. I'm sure she's gonna who knows what
this is going to mean for her down the road.
It's just it sucks that this is where we are
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and this is what we do and a woman who
I don't know ropes prosecutors. I mean, we have to
support them, applaud them. What do we I mean? I still,
as much as we talk about the justice system, there
are plenty of people out there in prosecutor's offices doing
good work.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Yes, and we.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Need them to actually get bad people off the street.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Yes. It's just a shame to think that this actually
sends a message to prosecutors everywhere. We've talked a lot
about Trump's influence on the media and what maybe now
mainstream media networks are afraid to cover or are tailoring
what they cover out of fear of lawsuits or retribution
or access or denied access. Same thing with the prosecutor's office.
(21:39):
That's also deeply concerning. If you're afraid you're going to
lose your job if you do something the executive branch
doesn't like. That's a scary, scary thing. And this is
actually a little frightening when you take it in a
macro view. It's a little concerning about what this means
about the different arms of government and its influence on
media and on the justice side and all that.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
We still have to wonder what it means for the
ditty case. Yes, look, there is a battle going on
in argument over how much time this man should have
been in prison. Does it make an impact and not
have her a part of that.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
It has to have an impact. It has to have
an impact.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
She had to know that case backwards and forwards as
one of the lead prosecutors, one of the lead solicitors
in this.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
So you know, we shall see.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
I'll be curious to see if the defense, if anyone
else has a comment about this firing and what it
may mean for the ditty trial going forward, but we
will of course continue to cover all the ins and
outs leading up to sentencing and beyond, So thank you
for listening to us. As always, I'm Amy roboch On,
behalf of my partner t J. Holmes.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Have a great day, everybody,
Hey, they're folks. It is Thursday, July seventeenth, and the
lead prosecutor who brought the case against Sean Ditty Combs
has been fired. Forget this. Nobody thinks it has anything
to do with the fact that she essentially lost that case.
Welcome everybody to this episode of Amy and TJ. Robes
have been We followed that case so closely, the Ditty trial.
(00:23):
We wake up, see the headlines Marine Komi has been fired,
so we automatically obviously she's been top of mind for
three months now with this case. But it has nothing
to do with Ditty.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
They're arguing, right, Well, it's funny because obviously that's where
we've heard her name most recently, most often. And yes,
Diddy was acquitted of the most serious charges. So my mind,
fresh on top of my mind, was that she must
have been fired because of that. But when you look
at the headlines every single news outlet, they don't even
mention Didty. In the headlines they mentioned her father, who
(00:59):
I actually, I'm going to admit I did not know.
But now it makes a lot of sense that the
former FBI director James Comy is her father. Yes, that
same former FBI director who Trump cannot stand and who
cannot stand Trump. Do you think, well, maybe just you know,
a few writings in the sand might have just illustrated
(01:20):
perhaps we can get into that there beef that has continued,
and now he's actually being investigated, So we digress. But yes,
the Epstein, the Epstein case. She was a lead prosecutor
in the Jeffrey Epstein case and the Gallaine Maxwell case.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
And she won the Glaine Maxwell case. We don't know
what would have happened with Epstein. Of course, he died
in prison by suicide, but the did He trial?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Did he?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Though? Did he?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
I'm kidding, don't you start that stuff now?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Sorry, I was just turning the pot. Sturn the pot.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
They said he died by suicide. Okay, but the did
He trial? This was a stinging defeat for that office,
and office that doesn't lose a lot. This was a
very high profile loss for them. Loss meaning he got
off on the most serious charges. But you look at
that and they, I mean they had egg on their face.
They looked bad. So when you think, like wow, it
almost made sense. Take away the Glain Maxwell, excuse me,
(02:13):
take away the Epstein and the Komi stuff. But her Dad,
is that it's not supposed to be a fireable offense
to lose a case.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Well, yes, I mean, if you're a prosecutor and you
have to fear losing your job each and every time
you lose a case, that would be an untenable position
to hold because you'd be in constant worry and under
constant threat that you were going to be fired.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
So that can't be the case.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Also, of note, which was confusing when we first heard
this this morning that she had been fired. There's still
a lot of work to be done in the prosecutor's office.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
This case is not over.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Sentencing still has to take place, and then of course
there is going to be an appeal. So why not
have your prosecutor, you're one of your lead prosecutors, who
knows the case backwards and forwards, continue to see it through,
at least through SENI and seeing, but also with the
appeals that are absolutely.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Sure to come.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
We know as recently as a couple I mean, who
knows how many days it's been, as of a couple
of weeks, she was talking to the judge and submitting
paperwork having to do with ditty. She was very much
active in seeing this thing through. She's out of there.
Now what that does to that case, I don't know
what impact that could have. But for us to have
watched her and to have kept up with her and
(03:26):
kept up with that trial, our miles kind of dropped
that the person who has been leading this charge and
still a lot of fighting, fighting and back and forth
between Diddy's lawyers and the prosecutors still to be done,
and the person leading the charge is out of there.
But all of that said, so, I don't see anywhere
where anybody is suggesting that her firing has anything to
(03:47):
do with Sean Diecombs.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
No. In fact, I haven't seen one or heard one
mention of it. They've just thrown out there oh yes,
and by the way, it was almost, oh, we forgot
to mention she was also the lead prosecutor in the
recent Ditty trial.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
It was not at the top.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Of anyone's minds in terms of why she possibly could
have been fired, and it hasn't been stated directly. No
one has said why she has been fired, although it
has been interesting reading so many of these articles about
why she was fired, and they did talk about a
memo that was accompanying her firing, and it was referring
(04:28):
to a power of the president, so it did certainly
imply so there was a memo, according to sources, that
she was being dismissed pursuant to Article two of the
US Constitution. Article two of the US Constitution is the
portion of the Constitution that lays out the president's powers.
So one could infer people have been inferring that perhaps
(04:50):
this goes all the way up to President Trump.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
And look, the President has been on a firing spree
at the Justice Department since he came back into office
because so many the folks there was named Jack Smith,
had investigations, a couple of investigations into President Trump before
he became president again, and I mean dozens of folks
at the Justice Department have been let go, including prosecutors,
(05:14):
people who worked on those investigations. So it's not odd
to see that the president has fired somebody from the
Justice Department. However, who this woman is, Maureen Comy. Yes,
you maybe only got to know her because of the
Diddy trial, But folks, we assure you this woman is
a stud in that office. She is a top prosecutor.
You don't get plucked and selected to try Diddy to
(05:37):
try Epstein and to try Gallaine Maxwell. If you don't
know what you're doing. She got those rolls. Those she
knows what she's doing, and they have a stellar record,
they say, winning record at the Southern District where she works.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
So yeah, for ten years she's been working there. Harvard
Law graduate, obviously knows what she's doing. Comes from a
family who is very well entrenched in politics and big
stories and certainly big cases. This is nothing that she
would have ever shied away from, and was seemingly not
just fit for the job, but very qualified for the job.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
This is a capable lady. Yes, this is a very
capable woman. And reminder at the trial, at least the
highlights frobes. You just reminded me a moment ago before
we started recording. She handled a lot of the questioning
of Jane. Who didn't Jane spend the most time on
the stand.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
She was up there longer than Cassi, even Toura fine
was she was up there longer than me. I was,
so yes, Jane I believe was the witness who testified
the longest, and it did he trial.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
So she handled some of that questioning and Rose is
not I mean, I don't want to say they put
all they weighed too much with this. But the last
voice that the jury heard before they went for deliberation
deliberations Maureen Comy, because she handled the closing rebuttal. She
was the last person to make an art argument to
(07:00):
the jury, and.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
She actually took on a little bit of the snark
that we saw from the defense team, because yes, Mark Agnifhillo, Yes,
nailed his name finally after weeks and weeks of saying it.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Who's the guy that plays with Oklahoma City.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Thunder Shae.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Shae something with gorgeous Shay.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
I can't sorry for the folks, but if you've kept
up with us, Robes has been working all season on
Shay Gildos Alexander Alexander.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I just won the tongue yet, No, I got Shay
right because I was calling him shy first, So Shae
gilgis Alexander. But yes, we digress talking about Mark agn
So anyway, Mark Agnifillo in his closing arguments, if you remember,
was very theatrical, very animated, very sarcastic, uh cracking jokes
(07:53):
and poking fun at the prosecution's case against Ditty, and
it resonated with her and I'm sure the prosecuted prosecutor's office,
who had a fairly dry closing argument.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
She came up.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Marine Komi comes up then for the rebuttal, and she
starts getting animated, and she starts kind of mirroring a
little bit of what we saw from Mark Agnaphillo.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
So she knew what to do and she brought it home.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
They always say you save your best for last right,
so she yes, she was the final voice of the
prosecution for the ditty trial.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
And here we are. I don't think anyone was calling
for her to be fired. There wasn't some huge somebody
going off out there, some huge public outcry about she
should lose her job because she didn't get the convictions
for dating. Nobody was saying that. However, people have Rob's
been calling for her to be fired for a different reason,
(08:47):
and that is because she handled the Jeffrey Epstein case.
She just happens to be tied up now in what
Trump's tied up in, which is a Mago revolt that
I'm sure you all and seeing the President has gone
off on some of his supporters, even calling them past
supporters who are following for this Maga hoax excuse me
this Epstein hoax from the Democrat, so she now robes out.
(09:11):
I think a lot of people are speculating that she
was just so closely tied to that, and because she was,
and because the president is dealing what he's dealing with
with his supporters, that he's trying to I don't know,
not necessarily scapegoaterer, but kind of wiping the slate clean
to a certain degree of peak, just getting people out.
So they're saying her connection to Epstein is one of
(09:33):
the main reasons she's out of them.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
So earlier this week, Politico actually referenced her in their
article about all of this, about the MAGA uproar folks
just not believing that there isn't an Epstein client list.
They believe there's a cover up. They believe that he
was murdered in prison. They believe he did not die
by suicide. But Maureen Comy had argued and has argued
(09:56):
against the disclosure of these investigative records that are in
the court but are sealed documents. Of course, the MAGA
folks want all of that unsealed. But it makes sense
why Maureene Comy would want these records sealed, because they
believe there's a lot of information in there, and of
course there is a lot of information in there that
should be private. We're talking about sexual assault victims, we're
(10:19):
talking about minors. These are sensitive cases victims of sexual violence.
So that is standard operating procedure. It's not about some
cover up to make sure the public never finds out
what's inside these cases. They're actually trying to protect victims.
And so they also said also of note, and why
she another reason why she might not want any of
these records being released is because Galainne Maxwell is likely
(10:40):
and is going it actually isn't likely, has already appealed
her conviction, so this stuff is going to come back
up during the appeals process that she doesn't want made public.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Everything you said makes sense from a prosecutor standpoint, that's
going to impact my case. If I release all these
documents unseal them. That actually makes sense. Nobody's going to
buy that. No, No, okay, I say conspiracy theorists. They
call themselves truth seekers, fine, and nobody is ever going
to believe. I really do think you could open the
Epstein room with all the files and let the whole
(11:11):
public go in, and nobody is still going to believe
anything other than what they believe, which is that he
was murdered. And there is a long list of influential
people out there that just exists.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Look, and the truth is, I think most people know
or a lot of people have heard about my hot
mic moment. And I had been frustrated at my former
network for not being able to put out these stories
about Jeffrey Epstein before this all came to light with
one of the victims, Virginia.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
And you know, every one of these victims have very.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Different experiences, and they told their truth to police, they
told their truth to the courts, and a lot of
these documents were sealed. So there has been a lot
there has been a major problem with transparency in the
years leading up to Epstein even being arrest and then
put behind bars. But there there's a fair amount of skepticism,
and I would say that it's a fair thing for
(12:06):
a lot of folks to be skeptical about what information
has gotten out because there were a lot of powerful
people implicated or names were brought up, and so then
to just say, oh, nope, there's no list, there's no
indication of any powerful person being on Epstein's computer or
on the payroll or being a part of any on
his planes. Like there's just it's hard to imagine that
(12:28):
there isn't some sort of Maybe there isn't a formal list,
but it's hard to imagine there isn't some sort of
information that does have names on it.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
I get, I don't know. I mean, at this point,
nobody out trust and who do you believe? Who has
seen it? Who knows does it? Is it really just?
I mean the President called it a hoax that by
call me her dad rather changed comy, and President Obama.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
A hoax too, and Biden too to create.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Some just mindset put out there that it's some list
and people you dangle it in front of them like
a rabbit in front of great hand, and they're just
gonna chaste and they're not gonna stop. And it's working
actually if that's the case. But you talk about skepticism,
at what point do skepticism become go from healthy skepticism
to unhealthy?
Speaker 3 (13:12):
That's that's a fair point.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
At what point do you have to believe something or
stop something or I don't know that answer.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Nothing pisses people off more though, I think in this
country and probably around the world to think that powerful
people with a lot of money can protect themselves no
matter what, and you're never gonna find out because they
have enough money and have enough power to protect not
just themselves, but they're other rich, powerful friends and it's
in us versus them situation. And this is how conspiracy
(13:42):
theories begin. And they might begin with truth, but then
they do sometimes balloon and become something larger than they
ever were meant to be. It's just it's tough to
find out where the truth is, you know. I have
skepticism about all of this. I don't know where you stand,
but certainly I do with the interviews that I had
done and the research I had done for several years,
(14:02):
I have skepticism.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
So they might be truthful when they say there isn't
a client list, but it's hard for me to imagine
that there aren't documents, there isn't something, There wasn't something
they found they raided his homes that didn't have some
sort of connection to people who don't want their names
getting out.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
The idea there is that somebody is being protected and
in some way, some powerful person is being protected in
some way, Maureen Comy might have had a hand in
some of that. Even if she isn't conspiring with people
to do it, she's at least saying, we don't want
these documents to get out, and she has her reasons
for it, and so maybe she got caught up in
all that. Now that was one reason they're talking about.
(14:41):
The other reason her daddy.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Welcome back everyone to this edition of Amy and TJ,
where we are talking about more Comy. She has been
fired from her job as a lead prosecutor in the
Southern District of New York. She's been with the office
for ten years. She's the daughter of James Comy. She
was also a lead prosecutor in the Epstein case, in
(15:15):
the Glene Maxwell case, and of course in the Sean
Diddy Comb's case. And a lot of people are just
trying to figure out why why she was suddenly let
go on Wednesday after having all of that experience and
having had a stellar reputation. It's unclear right now, but
a lot of folks are pointing to her father, James Comy.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah, and we have to say that as of this recording,
at least, there has been no official word from anybody
explaining why but it sucks when your last name is Comy. Yeah,
and you work in the Justice Department, which is under
the Trump administration of a president who absolutely hates your dad. Correct,
(15:58):
what is she supposed to do? James has been one
of the top five public nemesis for sure Trump.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
And it only got worse back in May when her father,
James Comy, decided to post something on social media on vacation.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
He was at the beach.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
He should just be enjoying his time off.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
That tells you a lot about this relationship. He's on
the beach on vacation.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Still he Trump, and he's arranging seashells. And he didn't
find them that way as he tried to say, he
just happened upon seashells.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Did he say that he found him the way he said?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
He just he was just saying, I want look what
I found on the beach. I mean, he was probably
saying it with his tongue, tongue.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
In his cheek.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
But still, I mean, we all know he put those
shells in the formation of eight six four seven, eighty
six forty seven.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
You can figure out it's not too hard.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
The eighty six something is to kill something and forty seven,
the number of Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
He's the forty seventh.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
The president states, he's saying, oh, I didn't mean that,
I wasn't trying to incite violence, and look they went.
I do believe that he probably was saying get rid
of forty seven, which also seems a little childish for
the former FBI director to be saying get rid of
Donald Trump with seashells that you know, so you can
say it is silly, stupid mistake. But he actually is
(17:21):
being investigated for a call to violence against like an
assassination attempt against President Trump. That's how seriously the Justice
Department and the FBI said they were taking it.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
So, yes, he is currently under investigation by the Trump
administration for inciting violence against the president of the United States.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Hmm.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Now his daughter just got fired.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
He said it was mad, that was med. So that
was a couple of months ago. This goes back to
friaking twenty seventeen. Trump first term came into office. Call
me Me was the FBI director who had been appointed by
President Obama. Before that, he was in the Justice Department
serving under George W.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Bush.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
So the guy has been around and has some experience.
Trump asked him for his loyalty. The way Comy tells
this story, they were at some event and Trump he
was Trump, and his people asked him they wanted him
to be loyal. He was so disturbed by that interaction
that he went and made like a record of it.
And then over the years he has been slowly putting
(18:28):
out stuff and exposing some of the things from behind
the scenes. He's been highly critical of the President, and
the President eventually fired him. But that history goes back
and forth. We're talking almost that's eight plus years that
these two have been going at it publicly in some way.
Comy wrote a book in where she called the president
ego driven at some point. So these two just don't
(18:50):
like each other. And now the Justice Department, the FBI
questioned him about the Shales thing. But there's another investigation
they've confirmed is going on, having to possibly do with Russia.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
That goes back to twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
What are we These two don't like each Other's what
I'm saying. So if Maureen Comy is working for a
guy who hates her dad, and now the Epstein thing
comes up and Trump is taking all kinds of heat
for that, I got this woman here in the Justice
debarment who was tied to Epstein. I already don't like her, daddy,
and here we are.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Yeah, it's a win win for him.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
He solved two problems by firing Maureen Kmy And that's
just the truth of it.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
And we all know he's not funny. I'm sorry, I
know I laugh at the way you put that.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Cor Obviously, this is awful.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
A woman lost her job. I'm pretty sure she was
passionate about the work she did and she worked really
really hard at it. And so to have it in
this way based on what not your performance, not something
you did, not your record, not your you didn't even
make a misstep and say something stupid. This woman ain't
out there on TV every day.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
She's not saying she kept her.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Head down to the whole thing. She was not seeking publicity.
You have to say that about her. You think about
the Diddy trial, all the publicity seekers there were who
had different roles in there, even if they were like
just satellite roles. She you never heard her ever do anything.
So and look, the two of us, no more than anyone,
(20:14):
what it's like to lose a job from a pr perspective,
and that's exactly what's happening here, and it's you know,
it made me very sad to see that someone who
was qualified and a hard worker and had a stellar
record losing her job because of politics and pr and
perception and maybe even just because of one man.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
And nothing she actually did. It's I don't know this
woman at all now, don't know anything about her background,
nothing else. All I know is that she did her
job and today she's out of that job. Look, she's
gonna be fine. I'm sure she's gonna who knows what
this is going to mean for her down the road.
It's just it sucks that this is where we are
(20:57):
and this is what we do and a woman who
I don't know ropes prosecutors. I mean, we have to
support them, applaud them. What do we I mean? I still,
as much as we talk about the justice system, there
are plenty of people out there in prosecutor's offices doing
good work.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Yes, and we.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Need them to actually get bad people off the street.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Yes. It's just a shame to think that this actually
sends a message to prosecutors everywhere. We've talked a lot
about Trump's influence on the media and what maybe now
mainstream media networks are afraid to cover or are tailoring
what they cover out of fear of lawsuits or retribution
or access or denied access. Same thing with the prosecutor's office.
(21:39):
That's also deeply concerning. If you're afraid you're going to
lose your job if you do something the executive branch
doesn't like. That's a scary, scary thing. And this is
actually a little frightening when you take it in a
macro view. It's a little concerning about what this means
about the different arms of government and its influence on
media and on the justice side and all that.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
We still have to wonder what it means for the
ditty case. Yes, look, there is a battle going on
in argument over how much time this man should have
been in prison. Does it make an impact and not
have her a part of that.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
It has to have an impact. It has to have
an impact.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
She had to know that case backwards and forwards as
one of the lead prosecutors, one of the lead solicitors
in this.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
So you know, we shall see.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
I'll be curious to see if the defense, if anyone
else has a comment about this firing and what it
may mean for the ditty trial going forward, but we
will of course continue to cover all the ins and
outs leading up to sentencing and beyond, So thank you
for listening to us. As always, I'm Amy roboch On,
behalf of my partner t J. Holmes.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Have a great day, everybody,
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