September 10, 2025 • 54 mins
Tori gets real with Kaitlyn Bristowe in a conversation that’s equal parts unfiltered and laugh-out-loud funny. From bruises and broken ribs on Dancing With the Stars to the sweaty chaos of filming Are You My First? in Costa Rica, no story is off-limits.
The two dive into love, heartbreak, egg freezing, dating after 40, and the uphill battle of staying authentic in Hollywood. They also trade takes on TikTok dancers, binge-watching vs. weekly episode drops, and even cloning dogs. And leave it to Tori to come up with biz ideas like Kaitlyn launching a red rose vibrator line.
It’s raw, relatable, and wildly entertaining—the perfect dose of misSPELLING.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Misspelling with Tori Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Thank you for doing this. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Have we ever met, I've only well, I went to
one of the Dancing with the Stars shows when you
were there, but we never like officially met.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
When I was there for two weeks. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I loved watching you though, and I love Pasha so much.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I wish I had known you before because then I
could have gotten some tips on what to do.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I just would have said, don't injure yourself. That was
like my main focus was to stop getting injured all
the time.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Did you get injured? I mean you won? So I
worth the injuries or no?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Worth the injuries? Yes, but like I'm still suffering years
later from cracked ribs and like pulling a muscle that
was under my ribs and my tendonitis will fly every
time I wear heels now I'm still but I'm like,
I'll do it again.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
That is so crazy, And those are things they do
not tell you when they're like you should sign on
and like you can do as much training as you want,
as little training as you want, you know, whatever makes
you comfortable.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Well, it's crazy because one of my girlfriends had won
it from the season before, and I was like, why
did you not prepare me? And she was like, I
don't think people should prepare them because then they won't
do it. Because the amount she just sent me like
a foot massage bath thing that I just like would
soak my feet in. But she's like, it's so worth it,
but like it would be scary to know how much
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work and like injury you go through to get to
the end, Like it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
To get to the end.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I was voted off first, and I had pulled out
my shoulder already and no one knew.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
God, oh my god. It was like.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I don't know you were voted out first.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Oh it was a double elimination, like no one was
eliminated the first week, second week double elimination.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
That boom, I know. And I was having so much fun.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Yeah it is. I mean, it's so nice when you
have like a good partner and you guys have like
a good, good chemistry and a good bond, and it's
the live tapings are so much fun. I'm like so
jealous because mine was during COVID, so we didn't have
a live audience, and I'm like what does that feel like?
The like energy in the room from the audience.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Sister, I would have loved that live audience. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
There is something about the performance and having people there
cheering you on. But it was, oh my gosh, it
was so scary. Yeah, yeah, I think I would have
been Did the nerves ever go away? Or you didn't
have nerves?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
No, I definitely had nerves. I just I feel like
I would have had ten times more nerves if there
was a crowd and they're watching, or like if my
friends and family could be in there watching. But for
some reason, knowing that, like however many are watching at home,
like didn't phase me as much. I'm like, I got
some people right there like watching. But I do think
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I perform better under pressure, and like the more nervous
I get, the better I perform because I grew up dancing.
So I'm like, it felt like I felt like something
was missing with.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
The energy, right, I understand.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I understand that by the way I got to say
at being in the entertainment industry and being an actress
and having no training, and I think it's very unfair
the people have different levels.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Like I agree, you know what, I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Like professional dancers, athletes. It's just a different mindset. I think,
especially like Olympians.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
It's like uh okay.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Oh, and I also Bachelor's Bachelorettes. You guys are all
on fire.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I don't know what.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
There's the Bachelor Nation, like fans are really loyal. I
will say that I definitely feel like well with my
dance background, training like that had to have helped me
in some capac right. And then I feel like this
season there's so many TikTok dancers and like the two
girls from the Mormons show, I feel like all people
(04:12):
from you talk and dance better than anyone I've ever met.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
What is that?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I don't know. They're all talented and good looking and
like nice. It's bizarre.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
They look like they have perfect lives, don't.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
They perfect lives of the Mormon wives?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Right, And they're all virgins. Maybe that's something.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Maybe that's the glow. They're all virgins. They got to
get it out somehow. Yeah, exactly, Oh my gosh, this
is true. Yeah, this season, I don't know. I'm there's
a lot of Are there any like big actors like
Academy Award?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
When do they announce? I think they announced the cast
tomorrow morning. Yep, Oh, that's exciting. Yeah, because all I
know right now is Alex Earl, the Two Right Mormon Wives.
And there's one actor guy that I saw. Think he's
an actor, but I don't remember his name.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Zach Efron's brother Dylan Efron's on it right or is
he alleged?
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Alleged? But I feel like that is.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yes, they keep talking about Corey Feldman. Oh really, I
want to see that.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Yeah, I would see that.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yeah, I'm there for that.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
I for the cast announcement.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I'm Tony. Is that his name? The singer?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Oh, maybe that's who I saw? Is he blonde?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yeah, maybe that's.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Probably hatcheting his name, but yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I didn't know how to say his name either. But
I feel like I always get so excited for the
cast announcement because I've been watching the show since I
was oh gosh, since it came on with my mom
and so like it was so surreal being on it,
but then also like just still watching now knowing behind
the scenes, I've root for everybody so much harder because
I'm like, I know how hard you're working.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
No, that's the thing. The audience will never know how
crazy it is. It's intense. Are you still in touch
with Ardam?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I just talked to him. How long, maybe like a
couple months ago. I feel like we just you know,
like when I was on the show, it was like
we couldn't really bond because nobody could hang out outside
of the season because of COVID's because if you had COVID,
you were out of the competition. Oh my god. So
I feel like me and Ardam's relationship was like so
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strictly dance and then we went on tour together and
we finally got to like build a friendship. So then
that was so nice. And so yeah, we we just
every once in a while just kind of check in,
how's it going.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah, it's so crazy because I felt like, I mean,
I wasn't on it that long obviously, but like Pasha
became my like everything. Yeah, it was like we were
in a relationship and not in a relationship.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
I totally get that.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Yeah, I'm like, does everyone feel that way? Like, and
then once you're off, like you keep in touch, like
we're still friends. I'm still friends with Pasha and Danielle.
But I mean it's like all of a sudden, I
was like, wait, where's the late night text?
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Like not in a weird way, but like no, same,
I totally get like.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
And I was fine not like dating during that time,
Oh you were so yeah, he like replaced that everything
I had, like professional, I had someone there that was
caring for me, nurturing.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
It was like I had it all. I was like,
I don't need sad.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
They really do take on a lot as the pros, Like,
they really do take on a lot mentally, professionally, like
emotionally with because by the end, like Hardam would get
so mad at me, He's like, you can't cry every
time we talk. This was so tired, and I was
like I was like ready to be done with him
by the end. And then after like two days, I
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was like, wait.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Oh my gosh, I was just about to ask where
your mirror ball is?
Speaker 1 (07:41):
But it's right behind you always, always, always, and.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Your finger goes right up to it.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm very proud of that thing.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
So I binge watched are you my first? Did I did?
Speaker 3 (07:58):
What did you think?
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Oh my god, it's so good weight. So this is
the tough thing.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
I'm kind of old schools, so I really enjoy Like
back when We used to wait a week to see
like what would happened, and now everything on streamers. You know,
it's on Hulu. Everything's released. Came out on August eighteenth,
so I could just watch the whole season, which I
don't know what I like better, the Weight or just
being like I can't stop watching it.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
I was thinking the same thing because when they said
all ten episodes were coming out, I was like, am
I sad about that? Or am I excited about that?
Because I do as well love the Weight so hate
the Weight. It is like a love hate relationship, and
so I love Binginga's show. But I was like, I
wish we would have put out two and then waited
a bit and then put out like the other seven
(08:47):
and then done the like finale and then have done
a reunion or something. But I never know the behind
the scenes of the whys. I'm just like, just tell
me where to go and I'll be there and I'll
do my job really well. But like, I don't know
how these the business minds think behind the scenes.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
I think there are no business minds anymore. It's the
creatives are taking over. So Caitlin brist I think you
could run a network.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
You should run.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Hulu, because I think that's the way it should be done.
You get just enough and then you're like, sorry, you
got to wait a beat? Yeah, because I mean not
wait a long beat, like waiting for Wednesday to come out.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Season two for like what three four years? Didn't do
it for me?
Speaker 3 (09:26):
That's fair. You know what season I'm waiting for? What
is this show called? Did you get into Severance?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Now?
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I know, I hear. It's fabulous.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
It's I didn't think I would get into it. I
watched the first four episodes and I was like, I
don't think this is for me. And then on episode
five it was when I was like, I don't know why.
I feel like I would have keep trying, and then
I was in. And now the fact that they waited
like three years in between season one and two, and
then I got to Binge season one and two, and
now I'm waiting for season three and I'm like very
excited about it. But yeah, I can't decide if I
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like the big people or the way.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Okay, so I did start Severance, but I only did two.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Episodes, so I got to stick it out to number five.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Try again, Yeah, try again, because that's it. First few episodes,
I was like, not the same for me, but I
really battled through.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Oh my goodness, So are you the first? You filmed
in Costa Rica?
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Yes, which is so funny because we were like calling
it an island and it's not, but we're just going
with it.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Wait it's not. What is it a jungle?
Speaker 3 (10:27):
I think?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
So it looked like an island. Google.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yeah, I know, it looked like an island, but we
wanted it. I think we originally really wanted the show
to be like Virgin Island because it's from the producers
of Love Island, but then they went with the name
are You My First? But yeah, it was. It was
just so fun to be there and be a part
of that show because you know, like usually people on
The Bachelor or The Bachelorette or these other dating shows,
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like they're all very advanced in their dating life. They're like,
you know, on their third love stories or they've like
fully made out before. But these people are all on
their first for like some people are having their first kiss,
some people were having their first date. It's their first
time on TV, and so everything about it was just
so like pure and awkward and dramatic and sweet. It's
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like everything mixed into one that you'd want in a
dating show.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Absolutely, I found that we are we allowed to say it,
but are Michael and Rachel still together?
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I don't know if I'm allowed to say, because I'm
still waiting to hear if we're going to do a reunion?
Oh oh, I'm also I'm having Rachel on my podcast
I think in like three days.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Okay, so you'll let me know.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
I'll let you know. I've heard mixed things, and I've
also I've just heard mixed things in general about the cast,
like I know some of them are mad at each other,
and I'm like, what is happening? I need all the tea,
So I'm going to get it, hopefully for my podcast,
and then I'll tell you.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Okay, perfect.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Wait, So I did a dating show where I hosted
as well, and it tell me about the experience. How
long were you actually there in Costa Rica?
Speaker 3 (12:03):
It was about six weeks?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Okay? Yeah? And were you always on call?
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Because what would happen and they'd be like, hurry, get
down here, something's happening exactly.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yes, always on call, especially like Colton, and I really
wanted to make sure that the cast knew that we
were also like there for them as tours and friends,
and we're not just like these hosts that like are
having a producer edit, you know, like we're not in
with the We're really genuinely there for them and helping
them guide them along this journey. So we were like
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telling them you can call us in the middle of
the night. I'll show up with like no glamor on
in front of the camera. I don't care, Like, whatever
you need, We're here for you. But so there's that
only happened once where Rachel pulled me aside to have
a conversation, but we were also just always on call
because as you know, things can always change and happen,
and it's like we're filming seventeen hours of the day.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
No, it's literally like in our world there's like turnaround
times where you have to like have time to go
home and go to sleep, and that does not exist
when you're filming a show.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Like this, a dating competition. It's like twenty four to seven.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Yeah, it really is. I mean we I we had
it pretty easy, I will say, because I mean we
we worked so hard, but I'm like, this is a
dream job because we got I think because I'd been
on the other end of reality TV where I've been
a contestant, and I know how stressful that is. Like
the show is not about me and Colton, It's about
the virgins. So we're like we get to come in
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and just like say what we need to say and
be there for them. But then we get to go
like eat fish tacos and hang out on the beach
and wait for the next round of you know, glam
and wardrobe and being on camera. But it was like
really really fun. It was a really fun experience compared
to being a contestant.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I imagine. So how hot was it?
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Oh? It was. It was dream storm season as well,
so it was like so human And then we had
to hold so many times for rain and storms, and
it was like like flooding where the crew would go
to eat and set up flood almost every day and
we'd have to like wait it out and it was
like one of the camera crew tents and cameras. Luckily
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nobody got hurt, but they got struck by lightning and
so the cameras were all down for like, oh my god, Yeah,
it was crazy.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
I just kept focusing in on your hair and makeup
because having been on that side of it hosting, like
I couldn't keep my hair. It was like frizzing, but
your hair looked immaculate the whole time.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Oh my god, you pissed at you know, every we
would like do our or what we needed to do,
and then I'd run into a room with ac and
I'd have all fans like blowing on me, and I
was dripping like down my chest, in my back like
I had butt sweat the whole time. I usually look
like a drown rat in heat, like I'm I don't
look cute. I always said, like if I went on
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Bachelor in Paradise, people will be like ough, like I'm
not cute in the heat, and I was just I
would always have people with fans near me or doing
something to keep me looking. But my glam makeup artists
and hair artists did such a good job with helping
me stay dry.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Now you looked great, Hey you. I hope there's a
season two. I'm very excited.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I really hope so too. I feel like it would
be I mean, we have Colton and I have a
virgin sliding into our dms being like take us for
season two, and it's just so funny because I think
they really saw that. You know, there's jokes to be made.
There's they're virgins and we're making virgin puns and we're
narrating a funny show. But it's also like really sweet
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and people are on this self discovery journey where like
from them from the beginning to them at the end
are a complete different person And I love that part
of it. And so for season two, I'm like, I'm
so into that, as long as we have a lie
detector test at the beginning, because how do you vet
for if they are virgins or not?
Speaker 2 (16:05):
We don't know, that's right, lie detector test.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
You're right, I should be running Hulu. Absolutely, yeah, I
think that would be really funny.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Oh my gosh, did you think it was fair that
a bachelor was on?
Speaker 3 (16:23):
I always I actually wonder if that helped or hurt
him because he came in, like I feel like everybody
almost looked up to him as a big brother, like
they're like, oh, he's done this before, he's a bit older.
He's telling us like, well, this might happen, and this
might happen at this time, Like everyone kind of looked
up to him instead of like he didn't feel like,
you know, one of them. He felt a little more experienced,
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and I think they almost looked up to him like
a big brother instead of a romantic connection.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
I gotta be honest, I didn't find anything sexy about him.
Is that bad to say?
Speaker 1 (16:56):
No, that's I love on, I will drink of water,
beautiful eyes, kind of kind of funny, said all the
right things, and I just felt like, no, well, it's.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Sexuality because I feel like there's a lot of like
destigmatizing virgins in this where I'm like, Rachel is sexy,
like there are sex absolutely, we're no, And Mike really does,
I think because I had hosted his season of that
Bachelorette season as well, so I feel like I also
get like brother vibes from him because I was I
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felt like I was looking out for him on Katie's season.
So yeah, maybe he just like needs to put out
a little more of a sex appeal vibe. But yeah,
I hear you.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Yeah, okay, or maybe he's just say sexual he doesn't know.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
You never know. There's a I'm telling you this self
discovery journey from that show. I we need a reunion
for a lot of reasons.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Oh for sure.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
And I was fascinating when they were like, it's not
a cult, but is it a cult? And I was like,
that's so fucking cool.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
It's like, well I again, like you come into a reality.
Oh and I feel like if you watch Bachelor Bachelorette,
the virginity talk is always like you save it for
a one on one date and it's this big announcement
and everybody's shocked and it changes like somebody's perspective and
they think, oh, this is a really big responsibility. Am
I going to be there first? Are they going to
like fall in love with me? Because they've never done
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it before? Like this is a really big thing where
everybody came into are you my first? On the same
like same common ground, you know, right, Like they like
almost did feel like this immediate bond with one another
that they're like, yeah, we're we're all virgins.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Is that they like Gang's not like the Spock.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Super virgin, But yees.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Yeah, it's cute.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Do you still believe in love?
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Oh? Great question? My immediate response wanted to be no,
I understand that. I just I feel like so many
of people I mean, so many people I know have
been through heartbreak, but the people I surround myself with
I look around. I was just actually with some of
my best friends yesterday and they all have such healthy
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versions of love that I get to look up to.
And I actually thought about it yesterday watching my best
friend Kat and her husband Worth, and they have two kids,
and they just they do it with so much ease,
but they're also very honest about their tough times. I
always think about being from a small town where I
grew up. I feel like I had the smallest circle.
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I had really great parents. Even though my parents divorced,
I feel like they still had healthy love and they
gave healthy love. And as much as the divorce still
affected me, like I just feel lucky for how I
was raised. And then moving to you know, the La
to be on the Bachelor and then the Bachelorette, and
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my bubble was a bit burst with not trusting people,
Like I went in with so much trust, and I
went in just thinking like producers would never screw me over.
They're not just trying to make TV. They really want
me to find love. Like I was so nice everything
that I feel like my bubble got burst, and then
I got engaged, and then that engagement didn't work out,
and then I feel like he kind of bamboozled me.
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And then the second engagement, I was like, wait, that
is the complete different person than who I thought I met,
And then I got so jaded. But again, I've just
found such a good core group of friends and people
that I surround myself with. And all of my best
friends are married with kids, and I look up to
them so much because they do make me believe in love.
And I just feel like my parents found their healthiest
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love in their remarriages when they were like in their fifties,
and I just feel like it's never it's never too late.
It's just I am a bit jaded because I have
trust issues.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
I understand. How old were you when your parents got divorced.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
I was eight almost eighteen, so okay a bit later.
And they always like we had I always tell people this,
We had feelings meetings growing up as families, so like
if my parents got in an argument, we would like
all sit down as a family and talk about our
feelings and why it happened and like what they could
have done better. Like we were really open about all
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things in our family, which I think helped a lot.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Same I'm yeah, growing up, it was not like that
in my family, so I made a conscious effort to
do that with my kids. Yes, I think perhaps I've
told them too much or done too many feelings, but
I don't think that's possible, I said, no one ever.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Yeah, Yeah, I think that's really important. I feel like
I would want to be the same way if I
ever have children, I would want to be the same
way because I think that really allows them to feel
safe as well to talk about feelings. And like, I've
always felt like such an open book with I mean strangers,
all all open up to them. And when I went
on TV, I got absolutely destroyed online because I didn't
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understand that not everybody is so open about every detail
in their life. And I got really like slutshamed for
talking about sex. And I was like, wait, what, Because
I've just always been very open.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
I think that's what I love about you, and I
feel like I'm like that too.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
But do you feel like you're very polarizing? Yes?
Speaker 3 (22:19):
I really, which is just so funny because I would
have never in my life thought that until I went
on TV.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
And that's funny it's the word we grow up thinking
has a negative connotation, except when it's said about you.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
You're like, well, I was like, I guess I could
see that. I'm also a Gemini, So like, yes, are.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
You a Gemini? When's your birthday?
Speaker 3 (22:40):
June nineteenth?
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Okay, my daughter's June ninth.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Yes, Gemini, And but a lot of cancer in my chart.
I'm a very sensitive, spicy lady.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
That's a good balance.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
It's a good balance. It's a lot, but it's good.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
I mean I think you being authentic just paved the
way for everybody.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
I mean, you changed reality TV.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I think so.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
That's like one of the nicest things anyone could ever
say to me, just because I have realized from going
on reality television how much I crave authenticity in people,
and how again I had never surrounded myself with anyone
other than my little Canadian small town friends. So going
into the big city of LA and getting into that
world of TV and I was like, oh my gosh,
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it like broke my spirit a little bit to see
how many fake people there were.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yeah. No, you're the filly that can never be broken.
Be proud of that. I will think that's why you
still have a beam of light.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Oh thank god. I remember Reagan Fox talking about how
people took away her sparkle and I was like, I
hate that for her. I don't want anybody to use
their little sparkle that they have.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I know it happens, though, it of course does.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
I mean I can see why. And the Internet is
even worse. It's the worst it's ever been with bullying.
And it's awful out there.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
It's crazy. Where in Canada are you from exactly?
Speaker 3 (24:08):
So, it's called La Duke. It's just outside of Edmonton
and Alberta. And then I moved to Vancouver. I had
a dance scholarship, so I got to go to Vancouver
and dance out there. I've met a few kitty Canadians.
I will say that.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
It's a good bunch out there.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Yeah. Are you on dating apps?
Speaker 3 (24:34):
I've never been on a dating app, and I feel
like I really did miss out on a little era
there because I one of my best friends is married
to her first Tinder swipe. Really yeah, and that's how
my mom and my stepdad met was on well they
will never admit this, but it was on seniors dot com.
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Because if you were like over fifty, it's considered like
seniors dot com and that's where they met.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
So id seniors dot com. Because I'm fifty two, I
don't I can't fight.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
I have to go.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Yeah, look amazing. I honestly, I just turned forty and
I am like not phased at all about that. I
feel like forties are so exciting, and then I feel
like everybody. I think it's because we grew up with
a generation where our parents at fifty they just didn't
seem they seemed older than that, you know, so now
we realize, oh my gosh, it's all about our energy,
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our like spirit and how we feel rather than ages.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
But yeah, I never still hurt a little bit.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
I will always understand that. I've I totally talked myself
into loving forty before I was forty. So then I
got there and I was like, yes, I love it.
I've already convinced myself. But yeah, I've never I never
got to do the dating OUTSI I've just watched friends
do it and it always seems so fun. But they
scare me. They scare me a little bit.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
They're terrifying.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
And I was married for eighteen years, together for twenty
so I missed that as well. I would be with
my friends and be like, let me swipe for you.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
This is so fun. I'm never going to get to
do this.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
And now I'm single again at fifty two with five kids,
and I'm.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Like, oh, it's in your stock Holm.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
What's that senior Stockholm.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
I feel like there's some like genuine people on there.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I don't know. I feel like I want someone younger
this time.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Ah fair, Yeah, I feel like I want somebody older
this time.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
How old would be the oldest you would date?
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Oh gosh, probably like late forties, I would say, okay, yeah,
Like I don't mind a ten year age gap. That
doesn't That doesn't scare me.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Here's the thing that worries me. This is this is
just a personal thing. But I want to see if
you relate to this. I feel like a woman that's
forty or a woman that's fifty and going into wanting
a new relationship is fine, but never been that's fine.
But like if a man is forty plus and has
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never been married, I feel like it's a little bit
of a different thing. And I don't know why it's
like that. I don't but it's concerning and I don't
know why.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
And I find like my dream is a what do
they call him? A divorce? Like a divorce a man
who's I always I always hear that people's second marriages
are like they're happiest too, And so I'm like, if
I like a man in his forties who's been divorced.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Hot, okay with kids?
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Sure? I love kids. I hope to have my own.
But again, I froze my eggs when I was thirty three,
So I'm good girl.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
I was gonna ask you that.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Yeah, I'm really happy I did that, but I mean
it's also not a guarantee. But you know, I'm I'm
kind of dating right now. I always I feel weird
saying it because I'm like, I'm trying to keep my
dating life like private. Yeah, it's like, so I'm like,
good luck, Yeah, it's it's it's tricky. I'm trying really hard.
So I'm like sometimes I say things and I'm like
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that doesn't add up, But then it doesn't feel authentic
because I'm like, am I being I douine right now?
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Wait? Okay, wait how many did they?
Speaker 3 (28:15):
So?
Speaker 2 (28:15):
How many eggs did they? Were they able to freeze
when you were thirty.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Three, so I got I think I got fourteen or thirteen.
I think I got thirteen. And then they said anything
over ten for my age at thirty three was good,
So I was happy about that. But I don't know
how many are like good eggs, Like, I won't know
until they were fertilized and then you know, right because
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it wasn't IBF, it was just freezing my eggs.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Do you ever go visit them? No?
Speaker 3 (28:46):
I just asked that that's actually funny to be babies.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
My guys check it in.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
I want to hear. It's my best friend, one of
my best friends that I made friends with her on
The Bachelor. Actually she's a fertility nurse. So she did
it for me, and every time I visited, I was like,
how am my eggs doing? I should go visit them?
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Wait, she did it for you, So are they like
in her freezer? Yeah, just chilling in my in my freezer.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
I mean, oh, really, what are you going to do
with it? I don't know, Oh yeah, because I heard
you can like make it into pills or do something.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I know my last one, well he's eight now, so
I don't know eight years. It's probably we did we
took a little piece of it right afterwards.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
And my husband cooked it and you ate it, uh huh.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Yeah, because they say that's like so full of nutrients. Yeah,
that do breast milk right now is like being sold
on the black market for like.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Oh my god, it's crazy, Like that's the range is
the gold bodily fluids?
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Yeah? What's next?
Speaker 3 (29:58):
I don't know, and I don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
I want to.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
You never know what's coming next. Like not being phases
me at this point in my life, like after COVID
and just so much like everything weird happening and like
people talking about aliens Like I'm like, nothing will phase
me ever again, Like there the tree could start talking
to me outside and I'd be like, sure, it's twenty
twenty five.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Do red roses phase you? No?
Speaker 3 (30:23):
I love you?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Hate them? You love them?
Speaker 3 (30:25):
I love them. I feel like I went through a
phase maybe a while back where I was like no,
but then I realized that that was like the most
pivotal point in my life for like living a true
like dream of mine, And so I now have a
rose tattooed on me because I'm like, no, I want
it to be positive.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Oh I love that where's your rose tattoo?
Speaker 3 (30:43):
It's on on my arm right here.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
M yeah, there's your beebe peebe Hi.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
You know she looks so gray right now. He's like
just starting to go great.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
He's he's probably like sick.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
I rescued both of them, so I actually don't know
how old they are, but I feel like he's probably six.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Oh my gosh. I can't wait till they can clone dogs.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I I don't care about but dogs like, oh no, no,
we don't get enough time with them.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
I'm the same. And I heard that they're coming out
with a pill in twenty twenty six that helps dogs
live longer.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
I'm there for that.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
I'm like, take my money.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Isn't that Yes, Like there's so many things medically we
won't do for ourselves, but our animals are hurt and
you take them somewhere and they're like it's going to
be twelve thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
And you're like, yeah, it's my blood, take everything.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Do it. Monts of dogs about it, and I'm like, Hayley,
they are so expensive, and she's like, you know, a
single mom working jobs and doing just her absolute best.
But I'm like, dogs are expensive, but they're also the
best thing that has ever happened to me.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Yeah, I should have followed my instinct at six to
be a VET because I'd be really wealthy now and
my life wouldn't be inconsistent.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
But then you wouldn't be You're like such an icon
and such a legend, and I feel like you were
meant for that path. But also I could never handle
the heartbreak of being a vett. Think of how many
heartbreaks you have to experience.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
I know, and I always ask them that too.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
I'm like, oh my gosh, Like behind the scenes when
you're there, you're like, is this just it's the same
thing doctors often say, you know, in hospitals with children
and people.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
It's just constant.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
You have to like stop taking it home. Oh my gosh,
do you take on people's energy.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
It's so much that it like frustrates me that I
actually find myself becoming so much more of an introvert
now than I ever have been, because I didn't realize
how much I do that until I started getting I'm like,
I'm pretty spiritual, and so I started really paying attention
to certain things, and I just I really do and
(32:54):
sometimes I won't even realize it, and I'll be in
the same room as somebody and like I'll like all
feel them, like feeling sick, Like I'll feel that. It's scary.
Almost Like my ex always called me a witch because
I was like, because of how much I feel witch.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Ex called you that.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
One that would love if I kept bringing up his
name because he loves to be in the headlines.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
So I had to copy that.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
You'd be like, yes, I got talked about again, But
I actually I take it as a compliment. If you
think I have witchy vibes, I'm like, that's awesome. I
love I love being a witch.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
That's so funny. Just from being on a zoom with you,
I was like, she's an EmPATH.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
I can tell oh it, Yeah, it's I love it.
I love it because it's part of who I am.
But it's just it really is draining, and I I
sleep so hard when I get home from any Like
like yesterday I was at my friend's house and she
had some people over at her pool and I came
home and I like, I'm like, I need ten hours
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of sleep.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Can you get ten hours to sleep?
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (33:59):
What? Oh you're one of those Yes, I could sleep
you sleep anywhere.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
I can sleep anywhere, and I can sleep like if
I was allowed because I have things to do, I
could sleep fourteen hours if I if I chose to.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
That is wild.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
I know. It's like I'm good at I do. Once
in a while, I'll wake up in the middle of
the night with some pretty intrusive thoughts, like very around
my cycle. And so I've just like learned my body
so well that i can sleep anywhere and for a
long amount of time unless I'm in a certain phase
of my cycle where i have the worst depression and
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anxiety and I spiral and then that's when I can't sleep.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Wow, you were just telling me that you know what
was going through my head that you should start a
vibrator line you think so yeah, red rose one.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Ah, that's kind of genius.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
That's a good one, right, that's.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
A really good one because well, first of all, people
did know me as like the sexual bachelorette, right, I'm
so open about that kind of thing. And then you
put in a red rose and it's I mean, I'm
not mad.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
No, if they ever replaced the rose, what would you
replace it with?
Speaker 3 (35:16):
WHOA? Maybe like a glass of wine?
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Because you do have a marketing brain?
Speaker 3 (35:29):
There you go, maybe a glass of wine or a
red Rose vibrator for all the girls.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, no, I like this red Rose vibrator. Wait, but
so you.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Have your wine line, which I really I want to taste.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Oh, I will send you. It's actually I'm really depressed
because my wine line has to close down now. I
want to pivot because the facility that makes my wine
they in the wine industry for over one hundred years,
and the facility shut down. So I didn't have a
choice but to. But I have so much of it
still where I'm like, please send me your address because
(36:04):
I will send you. It's so good. It's the only
wine I drink, and I love it so much, and
I'm just I'm gonna have to start all over again
if I do continue to do it, because I'm like,
I worked so closely with this wine maker.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
For ten years, I worked in a restaurant business, and
I worked under a somalier learning about wine, and then
I would train servers on their wine knowledge to like
pair it with food, and we'd go on these retreats
to like wine country, and I'd learn so much. So
I'm like very dialed in when it comes to wine.
And I'm so sad that this facility shut down because
I'm like.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
It's gone. There must be a way.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
I know.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
I'm sure I can, Like I'll have to transfer the vines.
I know, somewhere near your eggs. She could grow both
with love.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
You know what you really you've also got a market
like that. That's genius. Yeah, I should, I'll find something
to do. But I'm like, I'm pretty bummed out about it.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Yeah, I'm sorry. Okay, it's it's you always find a
way though.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Oh I do my brain, You're a warrior, thank you.
I do. I get excited to think about like, Okay,
there's nothing I can do about that. What can we do?
Like how can I pivot? What's next? What can we make?
And I actually like that part of it. It's that
ten years ago me would have spiraled, but ten years
(37:30):
of therapy Caitlin and learning how to cope has taught
me to be like, Okay, this is the universe's way
of showing me that it's just time for the next step.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Yep, you're being challenged, that's it. I believe that no
is the first word towards yes. Absolutely, And I live
by that.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Literally, I really believe that in that's such a powerful
way of thinking for anyone that's listening or watching, Like
that really is a powerful, powerful way of thinking, because
every note in my life led me to somehow go
on television and then like get to have I always
manifested when I was in my young twenties. I always
(38:08):
wanted my own radio show. I'm like sitting here with
a podcast on your Tory Spellings podcast, Like this is
so crazy to me.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Oh my gosh, I want to be on your podcast.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Oh please, I would love. Do you live in la
I do? Yeah, Okay, I come out there quite often
for podcasts. So we'll plan that. Because it's just like
every every no has has led me in the right direction.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Could you date a man that doesn't drink wine?
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Yeah? I could, because it would probably help me drink
less wine. You'd have to accept my wine drinking.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
What what? Uh wait? I want to drink wine with you. Sorry,
that's all I'm thinking right now. I just want to
drink wine with her.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
We'll do both.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Oh my gosh, I find the older I get though,
like I'm like a cheap drunk.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Oh oddly same. I used to be able to drink,
like I could drink a full bottle of wine and
be totally fine and function the next day. And I
still like and I have some sort of superpower there
where I actually really don't get hungover. But my problem is,
I like, have two glasses of wine now and I'm like, whoa,
which is so new for me? And I'm like, is
that it must be getting older? It's you just become
(39:31):
a super drunk, which is fine.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
That sucks though, Yeah, I get the slur now, like
after one or two glasses, and I'm like, oh no,
And then I have to keep saying like I only
get two glasses with dinner, like because I feel so shamed.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
I don't feel shamed. You should bring the.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Slur is not cute? No that you're right, And I'm
single now, so I got to work on the slur.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Well, my favorite thing to do at a restaurant is
have it a gin martini now and then I just
sip that the whole time.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Oh see, I'm not a sipper.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Well, I'm a gin martini makes me a sipper.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Oh see, so I've tried that with a martini, but
vodka and I just drink it just as fast.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
And then I'm even more wasted. So well, I dried, like,
do you like saki?
Speaker 3 (40:20):
I love soake?
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Okay, same, Yes, I love it, but I shoot it.
I don't sip it.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Well, I think you're supposed to. Oh really, isn't that
the etiquette?
Speaker 1 (40:30):
I don't know my ex for years he'd be like, oh,
she likes leans the whole thing back, and I was like,
I always thought you were supposed to.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
I actually I'm going to look into this for you
because I heard two things. One You're never supposed to
pour your own because it's bad luck the.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
First one right first one yeah, And two.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
That I don't think hot. You're supposed to sling back
but cold in the little glass. I think you are
you sling back hot? That just hurts my thorough thinking
about it.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
I know, impressive, thank you. I give it a few
blows and then that came out wrong, but then I
take it all.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
No, I'm just kidding, but I love you.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
I love you too.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
We didn't after hours that podcast here.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
That's what I'm talking about. Even with the Virgin show,
I'm like, what's happening like the tea behind the scenes,
I'm like, this is why we need a reunion because
there's so much tea happening by the scenes, and I'm like,
come on, this is the real show here.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Yeah, that's it. Tea.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
Isn't that a weird word? Like that one came so popular.
I don't know where that started from. Don't you ever
wonder who started the sayings that become like so popular.
I'm like, where did that start?
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Because when I was young, you'd be like, who started
white out? They became so famous and so rich. And
now if I make that reference my kids, they're like,
what's white out?
Speaker 3 (42:01):
What the heck is white out?
Speaker 1 (42:02):
That's and I'm like, oh my god, I'm old, no archaic,
but yeah, whoever started the sayings? Nothing, it's just their legacy.
They'd make any money off of it, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
But they don't. They don't even get the credit for
it because nobody knows who. At least the white oat
guy gets gets billions.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Yeah, like maybe it's on their tombstone like something.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
I started this saying, Yay, that's funny. Wait, you said
you've got some crazy dms from virgins? But do you
get men sliding into your dms all the time?
Speaker 3 (42:33):
No? And I always who did? I just talk to
you about this. Uh well, this is probably like a
year ago now, but I remember talking to oh Kristin Cavalary,
who she gets dms from guys like crazy, and I.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Was like like good dms, Like.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
Good, yeah, like she's like met some people that way.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
What yeah?
Speaker 3 (42:53):
And I am like, I have the only men that
slide into my dms are creep There's two creepy guys
that always want to talk about my feet. And I'm like, well,
that's not interesting.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
And your response should be for how much?
Speaker 3 (43:11):
Yeah, well it is exactly where my brain goes. I go,
yeah much. But that's I also have, like if you
look at my stats on Instagram, it's like ninety eight
percent female, which I love, but yeah, I think the
like two percent just want to see my feet apparently.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
So you have good feet. What's hisice feet?
Speaker 3 (43:30):
Six five six and a half?
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Oh me too?
Speaker 3 (43:33):
Oh we could hear shoes.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
Yeah, I have so many shoes because both my girls
outgrew my feet.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
So I have like a collect I.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Call it my art collection of like heels like since
the nineties, Oh my god, and no one can wear
them except you.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
Apparently you need to send me a photo of that
because I never was a shoe girl until recently, and
now I love shoes.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
I could fill a tub. In fact, once I did
and took a photo in it with all my heels.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
That's cute.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
I like that, thank you.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
Now I used to like chop at Payless and like
didn't care about shoes at all, and I just always
wore Converse. And now I'm starting to like bags and
shoes I'm starting to like, which I never did before.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
So we're the polar opposites because I used to always
be into heels and bags and I have such a
huge collection that I don't wear or use anymore, and
now I just wear Converse.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
Oh funny, isn't that weird?
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Yeah, Converser, I love They're the best.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
That's my jam.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
Yeah, I'm into that.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
Yeah, even with dresses, like I wear Converse.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
I always said i'd if I get married, I'm gonna
wear Converse under my wedding dress. Oh I love that.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Well.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
Color probably white or like go edgy and do like
a black leather.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
Yeah, you don't have to. You don't have to wear white.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
Nobody's gonna see them anyways.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Yeah, it's after labor day. You're forty, you can do
whatever you want now, whatever I want.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
And also I feel like I never thought I would
be the girl who would think about wedding dresses, and
now I'm like, if I get married, I want two
different dresses, and I want like a short party skirt
for after, and I want a long, beautiful one of
the like I've never thought I would think about that.
I never cared before, and coming from engaged twice, that
doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
No, after everything you've been through, you deserve to have
whatever the fuck you want at your wedding.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
I also picture a courthouse, so I'm really this is
where I'm a Gemini.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
I'm very courthouse hmm.
Speaker 3 (45:18):
But you can have both exactly. That's that's what I
would do. I'll do both.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
You can have everything. Okay, So would you ever be
on another dating show? Sorry, I know we have to
wrap up soon.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
Well, but I as a host, I would never never
want a dating show again. As a contestant, I've I
had so much fun doing it. I had so much
fun on the Bachelor. The Bachelorette was hell and then
I'm good now.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
But what if?
Speaker 1 (45:41):
Okay, it was a divorces all divorces, so it's your
type I'm just putting it out there because I never
I didn't think i'd ever be on a dating show,
and I didn't think.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
I'd ever be divorced, right.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
I was like, if I could find a nice I
want a dad too.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
So yeah, I feel that I know I still wouldn't
do it, though, I'm yeah, because I'm like, I think,
I think what really killed me with the dating and
being the bachelorette was how I constantly was hurting people's
feelings and I was just every day disappointing somebody and
it was the hardest thing ever. Because I feel like
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I'm even more I'm like softer in my older years now,
where I'm like, I can't imagine just constantly disappointing people
and hurting their feelings every week.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
That's really kind to you.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
What if it was a hidden camera show and you
were just punking people like your axents that I would
get down with.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
That I would get down with absolutely. Yes, put me
on a punk show any day of the week.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
Oh my gosh, I'm obsessed with your Instagram by the way,
are Yeah, it's very uh stimulating okaing good, that's not polarizing,
it's stimulating.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
How long does it take you to do handle your
social media day?
Speaker 3 (47:04):
I don't think twice about it.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
This is not fair. I know, it's a lot of gift.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
A lot of my friends are like, oh, you just
do it and don't look back. I'm like, no, all,
I can put something together so fast, or I don't
think twice, and then I just I like writing, so
sometimes i'll like write out a good and then other
times I just like to like say something inappropriate or
make a joke. But I don't know. It must be
maybe a little bit of a skill because I really
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just do it and don't think twice and then carry
on with my day.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
Let me tell you have mad skills.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
I do all my social myself, and it takes me
to put up one post like a whole day, like hours,
Like oh you.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
Got to hire somebody for that, right. Yeah. I enjoy
doing it because I can just power through so quickly.
It's like I don't overthink it at all.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
And you have no bad angle, so it's and you're
not like I love how you're so unafraid.
Speaker 3 (48:02):
Yeah, I mean the only thing I get terrified because
I grew up doing musical theater and I love singing.
And I've put out a couple songs, and that's when
I get really scared. I get crippled with fear with
putting out music or people hearing my voice.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
You haven't done mass singer, right, No? Would you?
Speaker 3 (48:23):
Yeah? I would totally do that show. I feel like that,
have you done it?
Speaker 2 (48:28):
I have, I've heard.
Speaker 3 (48:30):
It's a really nice experience.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
I was on the first season of the US and
then I've done different ones around the world. But the
first season, I just had no idea because we didn't
know what the show was. You didn't know what was happening,
so it wasn't It was really scary, But for me
it was really freeing because people always judge me because
of my name, you know, they see me and like
instantly like, she can't do this, she can't do that.
So it was so great to have a mask in
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front of me and it's like they don't know it's
Tory spelling.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
And I actually got compliments and I'm like.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
Oh my god, this feels nice to get compliments that
when I had to take off the mask, I'm like,
I don't want to.
Speaker 3 (49:05):
Yeah, I would be the same way, Like, I even
feel more confident singing with sunglasses on, so I feel
like it really really helped me. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
What's your go to karaoke song?
Speaker 3 (49:16):
Oh gosh, well, my go to is probably Shoop by
Salt and Peppa Nice. I know every word of that
song and I feel like I whip it out of
karaoke all the time. But I also love anything Alanis
Moore sat Nice. Yeah. What about you?
Speaker 2 (49:31):
Oh gosh, I don't. I don't do karaoke. What I know,
I love karaoke, I mean I will do it. I
like a good piano bar.
Speaker 3 (49:40):
I love a piano bar. Oh my gosh, Dueling pianos
and a piano bar are my favorite things.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
I like that, Like that's more my jam than like
because I don't know, karaoke can be a little bit
too cool for school and then I get nervous.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
But if you can just like I feel.
Speaker 3 (49:57):
Free, like with your friends, Like you just rent out
like a private room of karaoke with your friends. That's fun.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
Yeah, I would do that. Yeah. Do you like pickles?
Speaker 3 (50:07):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (50:09):
Why do you say it like that? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
They're one of my favorite things, and we seem to
have a lot in common, so I just thought i'd
ask you if you like pickles.
Speaker 3 (50:15):
No, that.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
Really threw me.
Speaker 3 (50:22):
I was like, I love this question though, because I
was just in Canada with family and my girlfriend pickles.
That's what she loves, pickling things, and she gave me
a big spicy My mouth is watering. It's like spicy garlic.
Speaker 2 (50:35):
Pickles that you know, not your lockjaw.
Speaker 3 (50:37):
Uh huh. It's happening, and I yes, and I'm I
was trying to eat them all before I left because
I didn't know how to pack them.
Speaker 2 (50:47):
Yes, I like pickling as well.
Speaker 3 (50:50):
Do maybe that I should start that. I feel like
that's a habit. I could get down with the whole
pickling pickles.
Speaker 1 (50:57):
I sorry the garden at this house, but I always
did have a garden.
Speaker 3 (51:02):
I love a garden. That's my dream. In my next house,
I will have a garden. I want to become Anderson.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
I'm like great at growing things.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
I'm great at growing humans and animals, but not I
don't have a green thumb.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
I won't either.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
That's a fan it is.
Speaker 3 (51:17):
Yeah, all my plants in my house are fake because
I also can't keep anything alive except a snake plant.
I feel like a snake plant I can keep alive
and I think that's it.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
Yeah, and I don't know what a snake plant is.
Speaker 3 (51:28):
Oh, I'll send you a photo.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
I need that, okay, because I've even killed cactuses.
Speaker 3 (51:34):
Yeah, I have two, okay.
Speaker 2 (51:36):
Succulents, I kill them all.
Speaker 3 (51:38):
Yeah, it's I I have to set a reminder in
my calendar to like, if I'm going to do anything,
it needs to be in my calendar because I am
so unorganized it's embarrassing and everything that if I'm ever
going to remember anything, I just need to write it
down or put it in my calendar or I will forget.
Speaker 2 (51:55):
I just came up with another business for you. I'll
leave you with this.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
When you grow your garden, I think you should have
your own variety of rose you should grow in your garden,
like a deep wine colored rose.
Speaker 3 (52:12):
That's a good idea. I don't know, just for like
aesthetically pleasing Instagram posts or to sell.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
No fuck that like for business. I mean it all
starts organically, right.
Speaker 3 (52:26):
I have a rose from my Bachelorette season. Hold on,
I'll show you saved it. The one of my guys
brought it for me when he came on my podcast,
and look at it. It's just completely dried out and
still the magnet is over there from because when you
pin the roses on guys, it's a magnet.
Speaker 2 (52:46):
Oooh yeah, a little known fact.
Speaker 3 (52:48):
Yeah. People always are like, how do you get them
to stick like that? I'm like, it's a magnet.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
Yeah, that needs to be a forever rose.
Speaker 3 (52:55):
Yeah, it iss not moldy.
Speaker 2 (53:05):
Oh my gosh. Well, I want to meet you in
person and hang out with you.
Speaker 3 (53:09):
Because absolutely is when I come to LA next, which
I'm not sure when I'm probably beginning of October, so
I will be here.
Speaker 2 (53:19):
Do you like horror films?
Speaker 3 (53:21):
I do?
Speaker 1 (53:22):
Okay, yeah, you said October, and it's like the spooky
season and that's when I come alive.
Speaker 3 (53:27):
So spooky season is my favorite season as well.
Speaker 2 (53:30):
Yes, oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (53:32):
Okay, yeah, so we'll have spooky night wine and podcast.
Speaker 2 (53:36):
Perfect. This sounds like a great night in that everyone
will want to know about it.
Speaker 3 (53:41):
So wonderful.
Speaker 2 (53:43):
Thank you, so are you fun?
Speaker 3 (53:45):
Thank you so much?
Speaker 2 (53:47):
Thank you. Okay, I'll see you soon then.
Speaker 3 (53:49):
Okay, yep, I'll let you know. I'm gonna DM you
right now.
Speaker 1 (53:52):
Okay, Oh, you're sliding into my DMS, slid into your
m Okay, put something dirty too, Okay, well, night, leve five,
Misspelling with Tori Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Thank you for doing this. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Have we ever met, I've only well, I went to
one of the Dancing with the Stars shows when you
were there, but we never like officially met.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
When I was there for two weeks. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I loved watching you though, and I love Pasha so much.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I wish I had known you before because then I
could have gotten some tips on what to do.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I just would have said, don't injure yourself. That was
like my main focus was to stop getting injured all
the time.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Did you get injured? I mean you won? So I
worth the injuries or no?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Worth the injuries? Yes, but like I'm still suffering years
later from cracked ribs and like pulling a muscle that
was under my ribs and my tendonitis will fly every
time I wear heels now I'm still but I'm like,
I'll do it again.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
That is so crazy, And those are things they do
not tell you when they're like you should sign on
and like you can do as much training as you want,
as little training as you want, you know, whatever makes
you comfortable.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Well, it's crazy because one of my girlfriends had won
it from the season before, and I was like, why
did you not prepare me? And she was like, I
don't think people should prepare them because then they won't
do it. Because the amount she just sent me like
a foot massage bath thing that I just like would
soak my feet in. But she's like, it's so worth it,
but like it would be scary to know how much
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work and like injury you go through to get to
the end, Like it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
To get to the end.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I was voted off first, and I had pulled out
my shoulder already and no one knew.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
God, oh my god. It was like.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I don't know you were voted out first.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Oh it was a double elimination, like no one was
eliminated the first week, second week double elimination.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
That boom, I know. And I was having so much fun.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Yeah it is. I mean, it's so nice when you
have like a good partner and you guys have like
a good, good chemistry and a good bond, and it's
the live tapings are so much fun. I'm like so
jealous because mine was during COVID, so we didn't have
a live audience, and I'm like what does that feel like?
The like energy in the room from the audience.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Sister, I would have loved that live audience. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
There is something about the performance and having people there
cheering you on. But it was, oh my gosh, it
was so scary. Yeah, yeah, I think I would have
been Did the nerves ever go away? Or you didn't
have nerves?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
No, I definitely had nerves. I just I feel like
I would have had ten times more nerves if there
was a crowd and they're watching, or like if my
friends and family could be in there watching. But for
some reason, knowing that, like however many are watching at home,
like didn't phase me as much. I'm like, I got
some people right there like watching. But I do think
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I perform better under pressure, and like the more nervous
I get, the better I perform because I grew up dancing.
So I'm like, it felt like I felt like something
was missing with.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
The energy, right, I understand.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I understand that by the way I got to say
at being in the entertainment industry and being an actress
and having no training, and I think it's very unfair
the people have different levels.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Like I agree, you know what, I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Like professional dancers, athletes. It's just a different mindset. I think,
especially like Olympians.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
It's like uh okay.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Oh, and I also Bachelor's Bachelorettes. You guys are all
on fire.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I don't know what.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
There's the Bachelor Nation, like fans are really loyal. I
will say that I definitely feel like well with my
dance background, training like that had to have helped me
in some capac right. And then I feel like this
season there's so many TikTok dancers and like the two
girls from the Mormons show, I feel like all people
(04:12):
from you talk and dance better than anyone I've ever met.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
What is that?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I don't know. They're all talented and good looking and
like nice. It's bizarre.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
They look like they have perfect lives, don't.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
They perfect lives of the Mormon wives?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Right, And they're all virgins. Maybe that's something.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Maybe that's the glow. They're all virgins. They got to
get it out somehow. Yeah, exactly, Oh my gosh, this
is true. Yeah, this season, I don't know. I'm there's
a lot of Are there any like big actors like
Academy Award?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
When do they announce? I think they announced the cast
tomorrow morning. Yep, Oh, that's exciting. Yeah, because all I
know right now is Alex Earl, the Two Right Mormon Wives.
And there's one actor guy that I saw. Think he's
an actor, but I don't remember his name.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Zach Efron's brother Dylan Efron's on it right or is
he alleged?
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Alleged? But I feel like that is.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yes, they keep talking about Corey Feldman. Oh really, I
want to see that.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Yeah, I would see that.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yeah, I'm there for that.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
I for the cast announcement.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I'm Tony. Is that his name? The singer?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Oh, maybe that's who I saw? Is he blonde?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yeah, maybe that's.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Probably hatcheting his name, but yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I didn't know how to say his name either. But
I feel like I always get so excited for the
cast announcement because I've been watching the show since I
was oh gosh, since it came on with my mom
and so like it was so surreal being on it,
but then also like just still watching now knowing behind
the scenes, I've root for everybody so much harder because
I'm like, I know how hard you're working.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
No, that's the thing. The audience will never know how
crazy it is. It's intense. Are you still in touch
with Ardam?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
I just talked to him. How long, maybe like a
couple months ago. I feel like we just you know,
like when I was on the show, it was like
we couldn't really bond because nobody could hang out outside
of the season because of COVID's because if you had COVID,
you were out of the competition. Oh my god. So
I feel like me and Ardam's relationship was like so
(06:20):
strictly dance and then we went on tour together and
we finally got to like build a friendship. So then
that was so nice. And so yeah, we we just
every once in a while just kind of check in,
how's it going.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah, it's so crazy because I felt like, I mean,
I wasn't on it that long obviously, but like Pasha
became my like everything. Yeah, it was like we were
in a relationship and not in a relationship.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
I totally get that.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Yeah, I'm like, does everyone feel that way? Like, and
then once you're off, like you keep in touch, like
we're still friends. I'm still friends with Pasha and Danielle.
But I mean it's like all of a sudden, I
was like, wait, where's the late night text?
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Like not in a weird way, but like no, same,
I totally get like.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
And I was fine not like dating during that time,
Oh you were so yeah, he like replaced that everything
I had, like professional, I had someone there that was
caring for me, nurturing.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
It was like I had it all. I was like,
I don't need sad.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
They really do take on a lot as the pros, Like,
they really do take on a lot mentally, professionally, like
emotionally with because by the end, like Hardam would get
so mad at me, He's like, you can't cry every
time we talk. This was so tired, and I was
like I was like ready to be done with him
by the end. And then after like two days, I
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was like, wait.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Oh my gosh, I was just about to ask where
your mirror ball is?
Speaker 1 (07:41):
But it's right behind you always, always, always, and.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Your finger goes right up to it.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm very proud of that thing.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
So I binge watched are you my first? Did I did?
Speaker 3 (07:58):
What did you think?
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Oh my god, it's so good weight. So this is
the tough thing.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
I'm kind of old schools, so I really enjoy Like
back when We used to wait a week to see
like what would happened, and now everything on streamers. You know,
it's on Hulu. Everything's released. Came out on August eighteenth,
so I could just watch the whole season, which I
don't know what I like better, the Weight or just
being like I can't stop watching it.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
I was thinking the same thing because when they said
all ten episodes were coming out, I was like, am
I sad about that? Or am I excited about that?
Because I do as well love the Weight so hate
the Weight. It is like a love hate relationship, and
so I love Binginga's show. But I was like, I
wish we would have put out two and then waited
a bit and then put out like the other seven
(08:47):
and then done the like finale and then have done
a reunion or something. But I never know the behind
the scenes of the whys. I'm just like, just tell
me where to go and I'll be there and I'll
do my job really well. But like, I don't know
how these the business minds think behind the scenes.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
I think there are no business minds anymore. It's the
creatives are taking over. So Caitlin brist I think you
could run a network.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
You should run.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Hulu, because I think that's the way it should be done.
You get just enough and then you're like, sorry, you
got to wait a beat? Yeah, because I mean not
wait a long beat, like waiting for Wednesday to come out.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Season two for like what three four years? Didn't do
it for me?
Speaker 3 (09:26):
That's fair. You know what season I'm waiting for? What
is this show called? Did you get into Severance?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Now?
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I know, I hear. It's fabulous.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
It's I didn't think I would get into it. I
watched the first four episodes and I was like, I
don't think this is for me. And then on episode
five it was when I was like, I don't know why.
I feel like I would have keep trying, and then
I was in. And now the fact that they waited
like three years in between season one and two, and
then I got to Binge season one and two, and
now I'm waiting for season three and I'm like very
excited about it. But yeah, I can't decide if I
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like the big people or the way.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Okay, so I did start Severance, but I only did two.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Episodes, so I got to stick it out to number five.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Try again, Yeah, try again, because that's it. First few episodes,
I was like, not the same for me, but I
really battled through.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Oh my goodness, So are you the first? You filmed
in Costa Rica?
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Yes, which is so funny because we were like calling
it an island and it's not, but we're just going
with it.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Wait it's not. What is it a jungle?
Speaker 3 (10:27):
I think?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
So it looked like an island. Google.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yeah, I know, it looked like an island, but we
wanted it. I think we originally really wanted the show
to be like Virgin Island because it's from the producers
of Love Island, but then they went with the name
are You My First? But yeah, it was. It was
just so fun to be there and be a part
of that show because you know, like usually people on
The Bachelor or The Bachelorette or these other dating shows,
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like they're all very advanced in their dating life. They're like,
you know, on their third love stories or they've like
fully made out before. But these people are all on
their first for like some people are having their first kiss,
some people were having their first date. It's their first
time on TV, and so everything about it was just
so like pure and awkward and dramatic and sweet. It's
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like everything mixed into one that you'd want in a
dating show.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Absolutely, I found that we are we allowed to say it,
but are Michael and Rachel still together?
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I don't know if I'm allowed to say, because I'm
still waiting to hear if we're going to do a reunion?
Oh oh, I'm also I'm having Rachel on my podcast
I think in like three days.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Okay, so you'll let me know.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
I'll let you know. I've heard mixed things, and I've
also I've just heard mixed things in general about the cast,
like I know some of them are mad at each other,
and I'm like, what is happening? I need all the tea,
So I'm going to get it, hopefully for my podcast,
and then I'll tell you.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Okay, perfect.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Wait, So I did a dating show where I hosted
as well, and it tell me about the experience. How
long were you actually there in Costa Rica?
Speaker 3 (12:03):
It was about six weeks?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Okay? Yeah? And were you always on call?
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Because what would happen and they'd be like, hurry, get
down here, something's happening exactly.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yes, always on call, especially like Colton, and I really
wanted to make sure that the cast knew that we
were also like there for them as tours and friends,
and we're not just like these hosts that like are
having a producer edit, you know, like we're not in
with the We're really genuinely there for them and helping
them guide them along this journey. So we were like
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telling them you can call us in the middle of
the night. I'll show up with like no glamor on
in front of the camera. I don't care, Like, whatever
you need, We're here for you. But so there's that
only happened once where Rachel pulled me aside to have
a conversation, but we were also just always on call
because as you know, things can always change and happen,
and it's like we're filming seventeen hours of the day.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
No, it's literally like in our world there's like turnaround
times where you have to like have time to go
home and go to sleep, and that does not exist
when you're filming a show.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Like this, a dating competition. It's like twenty four to seven.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Yeah, it really is. I mean we I we had
it pretty easy, I will say, because I mean we
we worked so hard, but I'm like, this is a
dream job because we got I think because I'd been
on the other end of reality TV where I've been
a contestant, and I know how stressful that is. Like
the show is not about me and Colton, It's about
the virgins. So we're like we get to come in
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and just like say what we need to say and
be there for them. But then we get to go
like eat fish tacos and hang out on the beach
and wait for the next round of you know, glam
and wardrobe and being on camera. But it was like
really really fun. It was a really fun experience compared
to being a contestant.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I imagine. So how hot was it?
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Oh? It was. It was dream storm season as well,
so it was like so human And then we had
to hold so many times for rain and storms, and
it was like like flooding where the crew would go
to eat and set up flood almost every day and
we'd have to like wait it out and it was
like one of the camera crew tents and cameras. Luckily
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nobody got hurt, but they got struck by lightning and
so the cameras were all down for like, oh my god, Yeah,
it was crazy.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
I just kept focusing in on your hair and makeup
because having been on that side of it hosting, like
I couldn't keep my hair. It was like frizzing, but
your hair looked immaculate the whole time.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Oh my god, you pissed at you know, every we
would like do our or what we needed to do,
and then I'd run into a room with ac and
I'd have all fans like blowing on me, and I
was dripping like down my chest, in my back like
I had butt sweat the whole time. I usually look
like a drown rat in heat, like I'm I don't
look cute. I always said, like if I went on
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Bachelor in Paradise, people will be like ough, like I'm
not cute in the heat, and I was just I
would always have people with fans near me or doing
something to keep me looking. But my glam makeup artists
and hair artists did such a good job with helping
me stay dry.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Now you looked great, Hey you. I hope there's a
season two. I'm very excited.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I really hope so too. I feel like it would
be I mean, we have Colton and I have a
virgin sliding into our dms being like take us for
season two, and it's just so funny because I think
they really saw that. You know, there's jokes to be made.
There's they're virgins and we're making virgin puns and we're
narrating a funny show. But it's also like really sweet
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and people are on this self discovery journey where like
from them from the beginning to them at the end
are a complete different person And I love that part
of it. And so for season two, I'm like, I'm
so into that, as long as we have a lie
detector test at the beginning, because how do you vet
for if they are virgins or not?
Speaker 2 (16:05):
We don't know, that's right, lie detector test.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
You're right, I should be running Hulu. Absolutely, yeah, I
think that would be really funny.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Oh my gosh, did you think it was fair that
a bachelor was on?
Speaker 3 (16:23):
I always I actually wonder if that helped or hurt
him because he came in, like I feel like everybody
almost looked up to him as a big brother, like
they're like, oh, he's done this before, he's a bit older.
He's telling us like, well, this might happen, and this
might happen at this time, Like everyone kind of looked
up to him instead of like he didn't feel like,
you know, one of them. He felt a little more experienced,
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and I think they almost looked up to him like
a big brother instead of a romantic connection.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
I gotta be honest, I didn't find anything sexy about him.
Is that bad to say?
Speaker 1 (16:56):
No, that's I love on, I will drink of water,
beautiful eyes, kind of kind of funny, said all the
right things, and I just felt like, no, well, it's.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Sexuality because I feel like there's a lot of like
destigmatizing virgins in this where I'm like, Rachel is sexy,
like there are sex absolutely, we're no, And Mike really does,
I think because I had hosted his season of that
Bachelorette season as well, so I feel like I also
get like brother vibes from him because I was I
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felt like I was looking out for him on Katie's season.
So yeah, maybe he just like needs to put out
a little more of a sex appeal vibe. But yeah,
I hear you.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Yeah, okay, or maybe he's just say sexual he doesn't know.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
You never know. There's a I'm telling you this self
discovery journey from that show. I we need a reunion
for a lot of reasons.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Oh for sure.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
And I was fascinating when they were like, it's not
a cult, but is it a cult? And I was like,
that's so fucking cool.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
It's like, well I again, like you come into a reality.
Oh and I feel like if you watch Bachelor Bachelorette,
the virginity talk is always like you save it for
a one on one date and it's this big announcement
and everybody's shocked and it changes like somebody's perspective and
they think, oh, this is a really big responsibility. Am
I going to be there first? Are they going to
like fall in love with me? Because they've never done
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it before? Like this is a really big thing where
everybody came into are you my first? On the same
like same common ground, you know, right, Like they like
almost did feel like this immediate bond with one another
that they're like, yeah, we're we're all virgins.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Is that they like Gang's not like the Spock.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Super virgin, But yees.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Yeah, it's cute.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Do you still believe in love?
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Oh? Great question? My immediate response wanted to be no,
I understand that. I just I feel like so many
of people I mean, so many people I know have
been through heartbreak, but the people I surround myself with
I look around. I was just actually with some of
my best friends yesterday and they all have such healthy
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versions of love that I get to look up to.
And I actually thought about it yesterday watching my best
friend Kat and her husband Worth, and they have two kids,
and they just they do it with so much ease,
but they're also very honest about their tough times. I
always think about being from a small town where I
grew up. I feel like I had the smallest circle.
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I had really great parents. Even though my parents divorced,
I feel like they still had healthy love and they
gave healthy love. And as much as the divorce still
affected me, like I just feel lucky for how I
was raised. And then moving to you know, the La
to be on the Bachelor and then the Bachelorette, and
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my bubble was a bit burst with not trusting people,
Like I went in with so much trust, and I
went in just thinking like producers would never screw me over.
They're not just trying to make TV. They really want
me to find love. Like I was so nice everything
that I feel like my bubble got burst, and then
I got engaged, and then that engagement didn't work out,
and then I feel like he kind of bamboozled me.
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And then the second engagement, I was like, wait, that
is the complete different person than who I thought I met,
And then I got so jaded. But again, I've just
found such a good core group of friends and people
that I surround myself with. And all of my best
friends are married with kids, and I look up to
them so much because they do make me believe in love.
And I just feel like my parents found their healthiest
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love in their remarriages when they were like in their fifties,
and I just feel like it's never it's never too late.
It's just I am a bit jaded because I have
trust issues.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
I understand. How old were you when your parents got divorced.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
I was eight almost eighteen, so okay a bit later.
And they always like we had I always tell people this,
We had feelings meetings growing up as families, so like
if my parents got in an argument, we would like
all sit down as a family and talk about our
feelings and why it happened and like what they could
have done better. Like we were really open about all
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things in our family, which I think helped a lot.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Same I'm yeah, growing up, it was not like that
in my family, so I made a conscious effort to
do that with my kids. Yes, I think perhaps I've
told them too much or done too many feelings, but
I don't think that's possible, I said, no one ever.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Yeah, Yeah, I think that's really important. I feel like
I would want to be the same way if I
ever have children, I would want to be the same
way because I think that really allows them to feel
safe as well to talk about feelings. And like, I've
always felt like such an open book with I mean strangers,
all all open up to them. And when I went
on TV, I got absolutely destroyed online because I didn't
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understand that not everybody is so open about every detail
in their life. And I got really like slutshamed for
talking about sex. And I was like, wait, what, Because
I've just always been very open.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
I think that's what I love about you, and I
feel like I'm like that too.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
But do you feel like you're very polarizing? Yes?
Speaker 3 (22:19):
I really, which is just so funny because I would
have never in my life thought that until I went
on TV.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
And that's funny it's the word we grow up thinking
has a negative connotation, except when it's said about you.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
You're like, well, I was like, I guess I could
see that. I'm also a Gemini, So like, yes, are.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
You a Gemini? When's your birthday?
Speaker 3 (22:40):
June nineteenth?
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Okay, my daughter's June ninth.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Yes, Gemini, And but a lot of cancer in my chart.
I'm a very sensitive, spicy lady.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
That's a good balance.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
It's a good balance. It's a lot, but it's good.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
I mean I think you being authentic just paved the
way for everybody.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
I mean, you changed reality TV.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I think so.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
That's like one of the nicest things anyone could ever
say to me, just because I have realized from going
on reality television how much I crave authenticity in people,
and how again I had never surrounded myself with anyone
other than my little Canadian small town friends. So going
into the big city of LA and getting into that
world of TV and I was like, oh my gosh,
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it like broke my spirit a little bit to see
how many fake people there were.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yeah. No, you're the filly that can never be broken.
Be proud of that. I will think that's why you
still have a beam of light.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Oh thank god. I remember Reagan Fox talking about how
people took away her sparkle and I was like, I
hate that for her. I don't want anybody to use
their little sparkle that they have.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I know it happens, though, it of course does.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
I mean I can see why. And the Internet is
even worse. It's the worst it's ever been with bullying.
And it's awful out there.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
It's crazy. Where in Canada are you from exactly?
Speaker 3 (24:08):
So, it's called La Duke. It's just outside of Edmonton
and Alberta. And then I moved to Vancouver. I had
a dance scholarship, so I got to go to Vancouver
and dance out there. I've met a few kitty Canadians.
I will say that.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
It's a good bunch out there.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Yeah. Are you on dating apps?
Speaker 3 (24:34):
I've never been on a dating app, and I feel
like I really did miss out on a little era
there because I one of my best friends is married
to her first Tinder swipe. Really yeah, and that's how
my mom and my stepdad met was on well they
will never admit this, but it was on seniors dot com.
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Because if you were like over fifty, it's considered like
seniors dot com and that's where they met.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
So id seniors dot com. Because I'm fifty two, I
don't I can't fight.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
I have to go.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Yeah, look amazing. I honestly, I just turned forty and
I am like not phased at all about that. I
feel like forties are so exciting, and then I feel
like everybody. I think it's because we grew up with
a generation where our parents at fifty they just didn't
seem they seemed older than that, you know, so now
we realize, oh my gosh, it's all about our energy,
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our like spirit and how we feel rather than ages.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
But yeah, I never still hurt a little bit.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
I will always understand that. I've I totally talked myself
into loving forty before I was forty. So then I
got there and I was like, yes, I love it.
I've already convinced myself. But yeah, I've never I never
got to do the dating OUTSI I've just watched friends
do it and it always seems so fun. But they
scare me. They scare me a little bit.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
They're terrifying.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
And I was married for eighteen years, together for twenty
so I missed that as well. I would be with
my friends and be like, let me swipe for you.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
This is so fun. I'm never going to get to
do this.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
And now I'm single again at fifty two with five kids,
and I'm.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Like, oh, it's in your stock Holm.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
What's that senior Stockholm.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
I feel like there's some like genuine people on there.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I don't know. I feel like I want someone younger
this time.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Ah fair, Yeah, I feel like I want somebody older
this time.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
How old would be the oldest you would date?
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Oh gosh, probably like late forties, I would say, okay, yeah,
Like I don't mind a ten year age gap. That
doesn't That doesn't scare me.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Here's the thing that worries me. This is this is
just a personal thing. But I want to see if
you relate to this. I feel like a woman that's
forty or a woman that's fifty and going into wanting
a new relationship is fine, but never been that's fine.
But like if a man is forty plus and has
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never been married, I feel like it's a little bit
of a different thing. And I don't know why it's
like that. I don't but it's concerning and I don't
know why.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
And I find like my dream is a what do
they call him? A divorce? Like a divorce a man
who's I always I always hear that people's second marriages
are like they're happiest too, And so I'm like, if
I like a man in his forties who's been divorced.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Hot, okay with kids?
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Sure? I love kids. I hope to have my own.
But again, I froze my eggs when I was thirty three,
So I'm good girl.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
I was gonna ask you that.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Yeah, I'm really happy I did that, but I mean
it's also not a guarantee. But you know, I'm I'm
kind of dating right now. I always I feel weird
saying it because I'm like, I'm trying to keep my
dating life like private. Yeah, it's like, so I'm like,
good luck, Yeah, it's it's it's tricky. I'm trying really hard.
So I'm like sometimes I say things and I'm like
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that doesn't add up, But then it doesn't feel authentic
because I'm like, am I being I douine right now?
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Wait? Okay, wait how many did they?
Speaker 3 (28:15):
So?
Speaker 2 (28:15):
How many eggs did they? Were they able to freeze
when you were thirty.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Three, so I got I think I got fourteen or thirteen.
I think I got thirteen. And then they said anything
over ten for my age at thirty three was good,
So I was happy about that. But I don't know
how many are like good eggs, Like, I won't know
until they were fertilized and then you know, right because
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it wasn't IBF, it was just freezing my eggs.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Do you ever go visit them? No?
Speaker 3 (28:46):
I just asked that that's actually funny to be babies.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
My guys check it in.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
I want to hear. It's my best friend, one of
my best friends that I made friends with her on
The Bachelor. Actually she's a fertility nurse. So she did
it for me, and every time I visited, I was like,
how am my eggs doing? I should go visit them?
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Wait, she did it for you, So are they like
in her freezer? Yeah, just chilling in my in my freezer.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
I mean, oh, really, what are you going to do
with it? I don't know, Oh yeah, because I heard
you can like make it into pills or do something.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I know my last one, well he's eight now, so
I don't know eight years. It's probably we did we
took a little piece of it right afterwards.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
And my husband cooked it and you ate it, uh huh.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Yeah, because they say that's like so full of nutrients. Yeah,
that do breast milk right now is like being sold
on the black market for like.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Oh my god, it's crazy, Like that's the range is
the gold bodily fluids?
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Yeah? What's next?
Speaker 3 (29:58):
I don't know, and I don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
I want to.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
You never know what's coming next. Like not being phases
me at this point in my life, like after COVID
and just so much like everything weird happening and like
people talking about aliens Like I'm like, nothing will phase
me ever again, Like there the tree could start talking
to me outside and I'd be like, sure, it's twenty
twenty five.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Do red roses phase you? No?
Speaker 3 (30:23):
I love you?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Hate them? You love them?
Speaker 3 (30:25):
I love them. I feel like I went through a
phase maybe a while back where I was like no,
but then I realized that that was like the most
pivotal point in my life for like living a true
like dream of mine, And so I now have a
rose tattooed on me because I'm like, no, I want
it to be positive.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Oh I love that where's your rose tattoo?
Speaker 3 (30:43):
It's on on my arm right here.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
M yeah, there's your beebe peebe Hi.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
You know she looks so gray right now. He's like
just starting to go great.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
He's he's probably like sick.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
I rescued both of them, so I actually don't know
how old they are, but I feel like he's probably six.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Oh my gosh. I can't wait till they can clone dogs.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I I don't care about but dogs like, oh no, no,
we don't get enough time with them.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
I'm the same. And I heard that they're coming out
with a pill in twenty twenty six that helps dogs
live longer.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
I'm there for that.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
I'm like, take my money.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Isn't that Yes, Like there's so many things medically we
won't do for ourselves, but our animals are hurt and
you take them somewhere and they're like it's going to
be twelve thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
And you're like, yeah, it's my blood, take everything.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Do it. Monts of dogs about it, and I'm like, Hayley,
they are so expensive, and she's like, you know, a
single mom working jobs and doing just her absolute best.
But I'm like, dogs are expensive, but they're also the
best thing that has ever happened to me.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Yeah, I should have followed my instinct at six to
be a VET because I'd be really wealthy now and
my life wouldn't be inconsistent.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
But then you wouldn't be You're like such an icon
and such a legend, and I feel like you were
meant for that path. But also I could never handle
the heartbreak of being a vett. Think of how many
heartbreaks you have to experience.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
I know, and I always ask them that too.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
I'm like, oh my gosh, Like behind the scenes when
you're there, you're like, is this just it's the same
thing doctors often say, you know, in hospitals with children
and people.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
It's just constant.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
You have to like stop taking it home. Oh my gosh,
do you take on people's energy.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
It's so much that it like frustrates me that I
actually find myself becoming so much more of an introvert
now than I ever have been, because I didn't realize
how much I do that until I started getting I'm like,
I'm pretty spiritual, and so I started really paying attention
to certain things, and I just I really do and
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sometimes I won't even realize it, and I'll be in
the same room as somebody and like I'll like all
feel them, like feeling sick, Like I'll feel that. It's scary.
Almost Like my ex always called me a witch because
I was like, because of how much I feel witch.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Ex called you that.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
One that would love if I kept bringing up his
name because he loves to be in the headlines.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
So I had to copy that.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
You'd be like, yes, I got talked about again, But
I actually I take it as a compliment. If you
think I have witchy vibes, I'm like, that's awesome. I
love I love being a witch.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
That's so funny. Just from being on a zoom with you,
I was like, she's an EmPATH.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
I can tell oh it, Yeah, it's I love it.
I love it because it's part of who I am.
But it's just it really is draining, and I I
sleep so hard when I get home from any Like
like yesterday I was at my friend's house and she
had some people over at her pool and I came
home and I like, I'm like, I need ten hours
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of sleep.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Can you get ten hours to sleep?
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (33:59):
What? Oh you're one of those Yes, I could sleep
you sleep anywhere.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
I can sleep anywhere, and I can sleep like if
I was allowed because I have things to do, I
could sleep fourteen hours if I if I chose to.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
That is wild.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
I know. It's like I'm good at I do. Once
in a while, I'll wake up in the middle of
the night with some pretty intrusive thoughts, like very around
my cycle. And so I've just like learned my body
so well that i can sleep anywhere and for a
long amount of time unless I'm in a certain phase
of my cycle where i have the worst depression and
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anxiety and I spiral and then that's when I can't sleep.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Wow, you were just telling me that you know what
was going through my head that you should start a
vibrator line you think so yeah, red rose one.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Ah, that's kind of genius.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
That's a good one, right, that's.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
A really good one because well, first of all, people
did know me as like the sexual bachelorette, right, I'm
so open about that kind of thing. And then you
put in a red rose and it's I mean, I'm
not mad.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
No, if they ever replaced the rose, what would you
replace it with?
Speaker 3 (35:16):
WHOA? Maybe like a glass of wine?
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Because you do have a marketing brain?
Speaker 3 (35:29):
There you go, maybe a glass of wine or a
red Rose vibrator for all the girls.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, no, I like this red Rose vibrator. Wait, but
so you.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Have your wine line, which I really I want to taste.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Oh, I will send you. It's actually I'm really depressed
because my wine line has to close down now. I
want to pivot because the facility that makes my wine
they in the wine industry for over one hundred years,
and the facility shut down. So I didn't have a
choice but to. But I have so much of it
still where I'm like, please send me your address because
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I will send you. It's so good. It's the only
wine I drink, and I love it so much, and
I'm just I'm gonna have to start all over again
if I do continue to do it, because I'm like,
I worked so closely with this wine maker.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
For ten years, I worked in a restaurant business, and
I worked under a somalier learning about wine, and then
I would train servers on their wine knowledge to like
pair it with food, and we'd go on these retreats
to like wine country, and I'd learn so much. So
I'm like very dialed in when it comes to wine.
And I'm so sad that this facility shut down because
I'm like.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
It's gone. There must be a way.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
I know.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
I'm sure I can, Like I'll have to transfer the vines.
I know, somewhere near your eggs. She could grow both
with love.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
You know what you really you've also got a market
like that. That's genius. Yeah, I should, I'll find something
to do. But I'm like, I'm pretty bummed out about it.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Yeah, I'm sorry. Okay, it's it's you always find a
way though.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Oh I do my brain, You're a warrior, thank you.
I do. I get excited to think about like, Okay,
there's nothing I can do about that. What can we do?
Like how can I pivot? What's next? What can we make?
And I actually like that part of it. It's that
ten years ago me would have spiraled, but ten years
(37:30):
of therapy Caitlin and learning how to cope has taught
me to be like, Okay, this is the universe's way
of showing me that it's just time for the next step.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Yep, you're being challenged, that's it. I believe that no
is the first word towards yes. Absolutely, And I live
by that.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Literally, I really believe that in that's such a powerful
way of thinking for anyone that's listening or watching, Like
that really is a powerful, powerful way of thinking, because
every note in my life led me to somehow go
on television and then like get to have I always
manifested when I was in my young twenties. I always
(38:08):
wanted my own radio show. I'm like sitting here with
a podcast on your Tory Spellings podcast, Like this is
so crazy to me.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Oh my gosh, I want to be on your podcast.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Oh please, I would love. Do you live in la
I do? Yeah, Okay, I come out there quite often
for podcasts. So we'll plan that. Because it's just like
every every no has has led me in the right direction.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Could you date a man that doesn't drink wine?
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Yeah? I could, because it would probably help me drink
less wine. You'd have to accept my wine drinking.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
What what? Uh wait? I want to drink wine with you. Sorry,
that's all I'm thinking right now. I just want to
drink wine with her.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
We'll do both.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Oh my gosh, I find the older I get though,
like I'm like a cheap drunk.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Oh oddly same. I used to be able to drink,
like I could drink a full bottle of wine and
be totally fine and function the next day. And I
still like and I have some sort of superpower there
where I actually really don't get hungover. But my problem is,
I like, have two glasses of wine now and I'm like, whoa,
which is so new for me? And I'm like, is
that it must be getting older? It's you just become
(39:31):
a super drunk, which is fine.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
That sucks though, Yeah, I get the slur now, like
after one or two glasses, and I'm like, oh no,
And then I have to keep saying like I only
get two glasses with dinner, like because I feel so shamed.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
I don't feel shamed. You should bring the.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Slur is not cute? No that you're right, And I'm
single now, so I got to work on the slur.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Well, my favorite thing to do at a restaurant is
have it a gin martini now and then I just
sip that the whole time.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Oh see, I'm not a sipper.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Well, I'm a gin martini makes me a sipper.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Oh see, so I've tried that with a martini, but
vodka and I just drink it just as fast.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
And then I'm even more wasted. So well, I dried, like,
do you like saki?
Speaker 3 (40:20):
I love soake?
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Okay, same, Yes, I love it, but I shoot it.
I don't sip it.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Well, I think you're supposed to. Oh really, isn't that
the etiquette?
Speaker 1 (40:30):
I don't know my ex for years he'd be like, oh,
she likes leans the whole thing back, and I was like,
I always thought you were supposed to.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
I actually I'm going to look into this for you
because I heard two things. One You're never supposed to
pour your own because it's bad luck the.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
First one right first one yeah, And two.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
That I don't think hot. You're supposed to sling back
but cold in the little glass. I think you are
you sling back hot? That just hurts my thorough thinking
about it.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
I know, impressive, thank you. I give it a few
blows and then that came out wrong, but then I
take it all.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
No, I'm just kidding, but I love you.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
I love you too.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
We didn't after hours that podcast here.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
That's what I'm talking about. Even with the Virgin show,
I'm like, what's happening like the tea behind the scenes,
I'm like, this is why we need a reunion because
there's so much tea happening by the scenes, and I'm like,
come on, this is the real show here.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Yeah, that's it. Tea.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
Isn't that a weird word? Like that one came so popular.
I don't know where that started from. Don't you ever
wonder who started the sayings that become like so popular.
I'm like, where did that start?
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Because when I was young, you'd be like, who started
white out? They became so famous and so rich. And
now if I make that reference my kids, they're like,
what's white out?
Speaker 3 (42:01):
What the heck is white out?
Speaker 1 (42:02):
That's and I'm like, oh my god, I'm old, no archaic,
but yeah, whoever started the sayings? Nothing, it's just their legacy.
They'd make any money off of it, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
But they don't. They don't even get the credit for
it because nobody knows who. At least the white oat
guy gets gets billions.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Yeah, like maybe it's on their tombstone like something.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
I started this saying, Yay, that's funny. Wait, you said
you've got some crazy dms from virgins? But do you
get men sliding into your dms all the time?
Speaker 3 (42:33):
No? And I always who did? I just talk to
you about this. Uh well, this is probably like a
year ago now, but I remember talking to oh Kristin Cavalary,
who she gets dms from guys like crazy, and I.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Was like like good dms, Like.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
Good, yeah, like she's like met some people that way.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
What yeah?
Speaker 3 (42:53):
And I am like, I have the only men that
slide into my dms are creep There's two creepy guys
that always want to talk about my feet. And I'm like, well,
that's not interesting.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
And your response should be for how much?
Speaker 3 (43:11):
Yeah, well it is exactly where my brain goes. I go,
yeah much. But that's I also have, like if you
look at my stats on Instagram, it's like ninety eight
percent female, which I love, but yeah, I think the
like two percent just want to see my feet apparently.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
So you have good feet. What's hisice feet?
Speaker 3 (43:30):
Six five six and a half?
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Oh me too?
Speaker 3 (43:33):
Oh we could hear shoes.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
Yeah, I have so many shoes because both my girls
outgrew my feet.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
So I have like a collect I.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Call it my art collection of like heels like since
the nineties, Oh my god, and no one can wear
them except you.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
Apparently you need to send me a photo of that
because I never was a shoe girl until recently, and
now I love shoes.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
I could fill a tub. In fact, once I did
and took a photo in it with all my heels.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
That's cute.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
I like that, thank you.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
Now I used to like chop at Payless and like
didn't care about shoes at all, and I just always
wore Converse. And now I'm starting to like bags and
shoes I'm starting to like, which I never did before.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
So we're the polar opposites because I used to always
be into heels and bags and I have such a
huge collection that I don't wear or use anymore, and
now I just wear Converse.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
Oh funny, isn't that weird?
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Yeah, Converser, I love They're the best.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
That's my jam.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
Yeah, I'm into that.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
Yeah, even with dresses, like I wear Converse.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
I always said i'd if I get married, I'm gonna
wear Converse under my wedding dress. Oh I love that.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Well.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
Color probably white or like go edgy and do like
a black leather.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
Yeah, you don't have to. You don't have to wear white.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
Nobody's gonna see them anyways.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Yeah, it's after labor day. You're forty, you can do
whatever you want now, whatever I want.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
And also I feel like I never thought I would
be the girl who would think about wedding dresses, and
now I'm like, if I get married, I want two
different dresses, and I want like a short party skirt
for after, and I want a long, beautiful one of
the like I've never thought I would think about that.
I never cared before, and coming from engaged twice, that
doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
No, after everything you've been through, you deserve to have
whatever the fuck you want at your wedding.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
I also picture a courthouse, so I'm really this is
where I'm a Gemini.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
I'm very courthouse hmm.
Speaker 3 (45:18):
But you can have both exactly. That's that's what I
would do. I'll do both.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
You can have everything. Okay, So would you ever be
on another dating show? Sorry, I know we have to
wrap up soon.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
Well, but I as a host, I would never never
want a dating show again. As a contestant, I've I
had so much fun doing it. I had so much
fun on the Bachelor. The Bachelorette was hell and then
I'm good now.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
But what if?
Speaker 1 (45:41):
Okay, it was a divorces all divorces, so it's your
type I'm just putting it out there because I never
I didn't think i'd ever be on a dating show,
and I didn't think.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
I'd ever be divorced, right.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
I was like, if I could find a nice I
want a dad too.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
So yeah, I feel that I know I still wouldn't
do it, though, I'm yeah, because I'm like, I think,
I think what really killed me with the dating and
being the bachelorette was how I constantly was hurting people's
feelings and I was just every day disappointing somebody and
it was the hardest thing ever. Because I feel like
(46:22):
I'm even more I'm like softer in my older years now,
where I'm like, I can't imagine just constantly disappointing people
and hurting their feelings every week.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
That's really kind to you.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
What if it was a hidden camera show and you
were just punking people like your axents that I would
get down with.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
That I would get down with absolutely. Yes, put me
on a punk show any day of the week.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
Oh my gosh, I'm obsessed with your Instagram by the way,
are Yeah, it's very uh stimulating okaing good, that's not polarizing,
it's stimulating.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
How long does it take you to do handle your
social media day?
Speaker 3 (47:04):
I don't think twice about it.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
This is not fair. I know, it's a lot of gift.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
A lot of my friends are like, oh, you just
do it and don't look back. I'm like, no, all,
I can put something together so fast, or I don't
think twice, and then I just I like writing, so
sometimes i'll like write out a good and then other
times I just like to like say something inappropriate or
make a joke. But I don't know. It must be
maybe a little bit of a skill because I really
(47:31):
just do it and don't think twice and then carry
on with my day.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
Let me tell you have mad skills.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
I do all my social myself, and it takes me
to put up one post like a whole day, like hours,
Like oh you.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
Got to hire somebody for that, right. Yeah. I enjoy
doing it because I can just power through so quickly.
It's like I don't overthink it at all.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
And you have no bad angle, so it's and you're
not like I love how you're so unafraid.
Speaker 3 (48:02):
Yeah, I mean the only thing I get terrified because
I grew up doing musical theater and I love singing.
And I've put out a couple songs, and that's when
I get really scared. I get crippled with fear with
putting out music or people hearing my voice.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
You haven't done mass singer, right, No? Would you?
Speaker 3 (48:23):
Yeah? I would totally do that show. I feel like that,
have you done it?
Speaker 2 (48:28):
I have, I've heard.
Speaker 3 (48:30):
It's a really nice experience.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
I was on the first season of the US and
then I've done different ones around the world. But the
first season, I just had no idea because we didn't
know what the show was. You didn't know what was happening,
so it wasn't It was really scary, But for me
it was really freeing because people always judge me because
of my name, you know, they see me and like
instantly like, she can't do this, she can't do that.
So it was so great to have a mask in
(48:54):
front of me and it's like they don't know it's
Tory spelling.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
And I actually got compliments and I'm like.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
Oh my god, this feels nice to get compliments that
when I had to take off the mask, I'm like,
I don't want to.
Speaker 3 (49:05):
Yeah, I would be the same way, Like, I even
feel more confident singing with sunglasses on, so I feel
like it really really helped me. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
What's your go to karaoke song?
Speaker 3 (49:16):
Oh gosh, well, my go to is probably Shoop by
Salt and Peppa Nice. I know every word of that
song and I feel like I whip it out of
karaoke all the time. But I also love anything Alanis
Moore sat Nice. Yeah. What about you?
Speaker 2 (49:31):
Oh gosh, I don't. I don't do karaoke. What I know,
I love karaoke, I mean I will do it. I
like a good piano bar.
Speaker 3 (49:40):
I love a piano bar. Oh my gosh, Dueling pianos
and a piano bar are my favorite things.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
I like that, Like that's more my jam than like
because I don't know, karaoke can be a little bit
too cool for school and then I get nervous.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
But if you can just like I feel.
Speaker 3 (49:57):
Free, like with your friends, Like you just rent out
like a private room of karaoke with your friends. That's fun.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
Yeah, I would do that. Yeah. Do you like pickles?
Speaker 3 (50:07):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (50:09):
Why do you say it like that? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
They're one of my favorite things, and we seem to
have a lot in common, so I just thought i'd
ask you if you like pickles.
Speaker 3 (50:15):
No, that.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
Really threw me.
Speaker 3 (50:22):
I was like, I love this question though, because I
was just in Canada with family and my girlfriend pickles.
That's what she loves, pickling things, and she gave me
a big spicy My mouth is watering. It's like spicy garlic.
Speaker 2 (50:35):
Pickles that you know, not your lockjaw.
Speaker 3 (50:37):
Uh huh. It's happening, and I yes, and I'm I
was trying to eat them all before I left because
I didn't know how to pack them.
Speaker 2 (50:47):
Yes, I like pickling as well.
Speaker 3 (50:50):
Do maybe that I should start that. I feel like
that's a habit. I could get down with the whole
pickling pickles.
Speaker 1 (50:57):
I sorry the garden at this house, but I always
did have a garden.
Speaker 3 (51:02):
I love a garden. That's my dream. In my next house,
I will have a garden. I want to become Anderson.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
I'm like great at growing things.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
I'm great at growing humans and animals, but not I
don't have a green thumb.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
I won't either.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
That's a fan it is.
Speaker 3 (51:17):
Yeah, all my plants in my house are fake because
I also can't keep anything alive except a snake plant.
I feel like a snake plant I can keep alive
and I think that's it.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
Yeah, and I don't know what a snake plant is.
Speaker 3 (51:28):
Oh, I'll send you a photo.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
I need that, okay, because I've even killed cactuses.
Speaker 3 (51:34):
Yeah, I have two, okay.
Speaker 2 (51:36):
Succulents, I kill them all.
Speaker 3 (51:38):
Yeah, it's I I have to set a reminder in
my calendar to like, if I'm going to do anything,
it needs to be in my calendar because I am
so unorganized it's embarrassing and everything that if I'm ever
going to remember anything, I just need to write it
down or put it in my calendar or I will forget.
Speaker 2 (51:55):
I just came up with another business for you. I'll
leave you with this.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
When you grow your garden, I think you should have
your own variety of rose you should grow in your garden,
like a deep wine colored rose.
Speaker 3 (52:12):
That's a good idea. I don't know, just for like
aesthetically pleasing Instagram posts or to sell.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
No fuck that like for business. I mean it all
starts organically, right.
Speaker 3 (52:26):
I have a rose from my Bachelorette season. Hold on,
I'll show you saved it. The one of my guys
brought it for me when he came on my podcast,
and look at it. It's just completely dried out and
still the magnet is over there from because when you
pin the roses on guys, it's a magnet.
Speaker 2 (52:46):
Oooh yeah, a little known fact.
Speaker 3 (52:48):
Yeah. People always are like, how do you get them
to stick like that? I'm like, it's a magnet.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
Yeah, that needs to be a forever rose.
Speaker 3 (52:55):
Yeah, it iss not moldy.
Speaker 2 (53:05):
Oh my gosh. Well, I want to meet you in
person and hang out with you.
Speaker 3 (53:09):
Because absolutely is when I come to LA next, which
I'm not sure when I'm probably beginning of October, so
I will be here.
Speaker 2 (53:19):
Do you like horror films?
Speaker 3 (53:21):
I do?
Speaker 1 (53:22):
Okay, yeah, you said October, and it's like the spooky
season and that's when I come alive.
Speaker 3 (53:27):
So spooky season is my favorite season as well.
Speaker 2 (53:30):
Yes, oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (53:32):
Okay, yeah, so we'll have spooky night wine and podcast.
Speaker 2 (53:36):
Perfect. This sounds like a great night in that everyone
will want to know about it.
Speaker 3 (53:41):
So wonderful.
Speaker 2 (53:43):
Thank you, so are you fun?
Speaker 3 (53:45):
Thank you so much?
Speaker 2 (53:47):
Thank you. Okay, I'll see you soon then.
Speaker 3 (53:49):
Okay, yep, I'll let you know. I'm gonna DM you
right now.
Speaker 1 (53:52):
Okay, Oh, you're sliding into my DMS, slid into your
m Okay, put something dirty too, Okay, well, night, leve five,
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