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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Morning Run with Amy and TJ and iHeartRadio Podcast. Good
morning everyone, Thanks for joining us for today's morning run.
It's Wednesday, April twenty third. I'm Amy Robot.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
And I'm TJ. Holmes. On this morning's run. A solemn
yet beautiful morning in Rome, A procession like we have
never seen before.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
That procession carried Pope Francis to Saint Peter's Basilica, where
thousands will pay their respects in the coming days. We
watched as it happened. Will tell you what we saw
and pass along the latest on this week's remembrances, including
the updated guest list for the Pope's Saturday funeral and this.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Pope adjacent little nugget. The movie Conclave has seen an
incredible increase in streaming viewership. Will tell you just how much.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Also on this morning's run, a stunning media shakeup. The
head of sixty Minutes abruptly resigns. His reason is a
bad look for the CBS News division.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Plus Elon Musk is heading back to his day jobs soon.
Based on the latest Tesla numbers, they could use their
CEO around more.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Plus Sarah Palin keeps losing to The New York Times
and while your flaming hot cheetos might not look so
hot anymore, And an extraordinary moment in a Texas courtroom
that even had the judge in tears. TJ, this is
your favorite story of the day, and I'm embarrassed.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
We'll get into it later, but I have been trying
to keep tears from you all morning. I haven't been
able to get through that story and writing it or
reading about it without tears just streaming down my face.
It is incredible, it is beautiful, it is said, it's
all kinds of things, but it will be an inspiration
to folks this morning, we promise.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah. I am looking at your eyes and they are glassy,
like they are literally welling up right now.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Story is incredible. I wait to share that one.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yes, we will get to that in just a bit,
but we do begin our run this morning in Rome,
where the Pope's body has been moved to Saint Peter's
Basilica this morning. He will lie in state for the
next several days for mourners to pay their respects.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
So this formal procession got underway around nine am local time,
so that's three am Eastern. Most of yes the US
was asleep we were not. We were up and watching
this live, and what a scene it was. The Pope's
body was carried in that simple wooden casket. It was opened.
He was visible as he was carried through the streets.
We can note Robe, you're gonna talk about this in

(02:18):
a second, how the crowds were gathered there, but how
he was being carried through the crowds. He was kind
of elevated, so folks there didn't get a clear shot.
But watching it on television and the camera angers angles
and from on high, you could clearly see his body,
the Pope's body being carried through the Vatican. Now his
coffin was a company, accompanied every step of the way

(02:38):
by this massive line of colorful cardinals. You know, you
see all the red and the colors down there. You
see the bishops down there, many of them have of course,
traveled from around the world to be there in Rome.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yes, and adding to the mood, you could hear the
bells softly tolling. The Sistine Chapel choir was singing. I
don't know exactly what it was, but it was a
Gregorian chant type of a song, and it just really
added to the mood. The stunning procession. It really was stunning.
It was incredible to witness went through the streets of

(03:09):
Saint Peter's Square as Yes, those crowds gathered watching, many
of them had their cameras recording it all to your point,
because his coffin was slightly elevated, they actually you could
see everyone's arms outstretched trying to get that camera angle
that we were all seeing at home, to actually see
the pope's body. Some even clapped as the Pope's coffin
passed by them. It just it would roar up. It was.

(03:31):
It was quite the sound and quite the scene. This
was historic because this procession has not been seen before.
No pope in more than one hundred years chose to
live outside the Vatican papal residence like Francis did. He
lived in a modest Vatican guesthouse, and so a procession
like the one we saw to bring his body in

(03:52):
that coffin to Saint Peter's Basilica never had to happen before.
It wasn't necessary.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Yeah, he essentially went from his home to the basilica.
Today is Saint Mark Santa Marta.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
I think Santa Martin.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Is the name of the house he chose to live
in So no, when one hundred years this hasn't happened.
None of us were alive one hundred years ago, for
the most part, we didn't see this. So this ended
at Saint Peter's Basilica. Ceremony was held there and then
the visitations began. So they are under way. You already
got thousands of people lined up there to pay their
final respects. They're going to be able to do this
through midnight today, then through midnight tomorrow, and they will continue.

(04:25):
It'll stop on Friday at seven pm. The Pope's open
casket is not also in the Basilica on an elevated
platform like other popes. Instead it's on the main altar floor,
facing the pews. Again, this was a request of his
doing things differently. There are velvet ropes around the casket,
but mourners are able to pass by fairly close to

(04:46):
it to say they're goodbyes.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
And meantime, we are also hearing about who will attend
Pope Francis's funeral that happens on Saturday ten am local time.
Most of the European leaders will all be there, some
kings and queens from Spain and from Belgium, but of no,
Prince William has announced that he will be there. Ukrainian
President Zelenski also is coming, as our President Trump and

(05:09):
First Lady Malania Trump. But Russian President Vladimir Putin has
already said, yeah, he is not going to be attending
the pope's funeral.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah. The service is expected to be about two and
a half hours. It will mostly be in Latin. You
could imagine the massive security protocols that are in place
being put into place over the next several days. Now,
how many people are going to show up, possibly at
Saint Peter's Square for this The only thing we can
base it on really at this point is Pope John Paul.
The second funeral, estimated four million people were in the

(05:40):
streets around the Vatican back in two thousand and five,
so that was all obviously a very beloved type of
people's pope in a lot of ways, this guy certainly
is that. So it's curious to see his life, his death,
I guess was on display in such a way he
went through his death for all of us to see,
and I think that's kind of added to his legacy
in a great way. And I'm curious to see what

(06:01):
the reaction will be.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
I think we mentioned this, and I think a lot
of people feel this in way. We all feel very invested,
not just in how he led, but in how he
showed us how to die. And it was just a
really beautiful thing to witness. And so I think a
lot of folks will be watching as we will be
next up on our run. Perhaps no surprise, but viewership
of the Oscar nominated Conclave is way up since Pope

(06:24):
Francis passed away on Monday. How much? By two hundred
and eighty three percent, Okay.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
And this makes sense to us. We just did it
naturally ourselves. When he passed, we went and looked where's
Conclave streaming because we wanted to watch it again as well.
It is available on multiple streaming services and on Easter Sunday,
Conclave generated one point eight million minutes of viewing. That's
how they keep up with this when it comes to
streaming viewership. One point eight million minutes of viewing. Again,

(06:53):
that was on Easter Sunday. The very next day when
he died, word of his passing spread it had six
point nine million minutes of viewing. That is that two
hundred and eighty three percent increase. You're talking about the
movie staring Ray Fines and Sanley Tucci. Of course, dramatizes
the process of selecting.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
A new pope, and by the way, it's a really
good dramatization. It was nominated for eight Oscars. He was
considered a serious contender for Best Picture. And this is
interesting to another movie that's out there, the Two Popes.
It also was way up by four hundred and seventeen
percent on Monday, people just wanting to watch, to witness,
maybe to kind of understand what we will be seeing

(07:34):
in the coming days as Conclive gets underway several days.
It's not specific as to when it's going to begin,
but it has to begin within fifteen to twenty days
after the pope's passing, so we will be seeing that.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Soon, can you tell me? KK We looked forward and
couldn't find it streaming for free anywhere, but Amazon, yes,
decided to do it.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Well, I think it was already in the works and
so they got it up quickly. So it is free
for Prime members now. But yes, on Sunday you had
to pay for it to stream it like three ninety
nine whatever, five ninety nine. But it became available for
free for Prime members the day the Pope passed.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
All right, we will continue here on this Wednesday. Yes,
it's late Wednesday morning run and a major shakeup for
CBS News. The executive producer of sixty Minutes, Bill Owens,
announced he is resigning from the program. But it's the
why he's resigning that is turning a lot of heads.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yes, Owens told his staff in a memo, and I'll
quote him here that over the past months, it has
become clear that I would not be allowed to run
the show as I have always run it, to make
independent decisions based on what was right for sixty Minutes,
right for the audience. Owens is just this is remarkable,
just the third person to run the program, and it's
fifty seven years on the air meeting. If you get

(08:47):
this job, you don't leave this job. So he has
been with CBS News for thirty seven years. He's spent
twenty four years at sixty minutes Sea.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
There's been a significant amount of pressure on this particular
show recently because President Trump is suing CBS for ten
billion dollars over a sixty Minutes episode that featured then
presidential candidate Kamala Harris. Trump alleges the program deceptively edited
the interview to make Harris look better. Reportedly, adding to

(09:14):
the pressure also is maybe this is the name you
don't know, but she is right in the middle of it.
Sherry Redstone.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yes, Redstone is the controlling shareholder of Paramount. Paramount is
the parent company of CBS, and she needs President Trump's
approval to sell her company in this big deal she's
trying to get done, and she's actually told shareholders she
is eager to settle Trump's lawsuit against CBS so she
can get this all done. Legal experts say, though, that

(09:39):
they don't believe Trump's suit is has much merit. They
some say it's even baseless, and a lot of journalists
over at CBS reportedly thinks settling it with Trump would
be compromising their editorial judgment, which may give some insight
into why Owens stepped down.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
This is tough. This is the most watch and you
would have to argue, the most respected apps program on
television for it to be dealing with his upheaval is discouraging.
We're talking about settling with Trump. ABC News did that
not too long ago? A couple of months ago for
fifteen sixteen million dollars over a lawsuit, and a lot
of people were stunned by that in the building and

(10:18):
out of the building. But what message is that going
to send that we will bow, we will absolutely get
in line if you don't like our programming.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah, it's concerning because just to remember, Trump has repeatedly
called for CBS to lose its license because he didn't
like their coverage. He doesn't like their stories, he doesn't
like how they're covering stories. He actually asked the FCC
to punish the broadcaster, and during this lawsuit sixty minutes,
ultimately did hand over the full transcript and the full
video of the contested interview to the FCC. That's pretty

(10:51):
unusual journalists, we don't usually do those types of things.
So reportedly they have a mediator working on a lawsuit.
But yeah, this has gotten very messy.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
And next up on our run here we will continue
the theme of politicians taking on media organizations with Sarah Palin.
She just lost to The New York Times for a
second time in federal court. A jury ruled against her
in New York yesterday, and her defamation case against the
paper in a legal battle that's actually been going on
about eight years.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Eight years. I didn't realize that. Pale ensued The New
York Times back in twenty seventeen after the paper published
an editorial that wrongly made a connection between her rhetoric
and the deadly twenty eleven Arizona shooting. That's the shooting
where Gabby Giffords was injured. The paper quickly corrected the
error and issued an apology, but the former Alaska governor

(11:39):
took the paper to court for libel, claiming it did
irreparable harm to her reputation.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
So the jury yesterday disagreed, and they only took two
hours to make a decision. But this is now the
second time a federal jury ruled against her. In the
first trial back in twenty twenty two, the Times was
also found to not have libeled Palan, but the jury
decision was later tossed out on appeal. So this could
possibly be the end of all of this, because Palin
said afterwards she didn't know what they were going to

(12:05):
do legally moving forward. But this is the case that
a lot of people kept an eye on. It's hard
for public officials to sue news organizations over things that
they write, and especially you have to show malice. You
have to actually sow you knew what you were saying
was wrong and you had intent. It's this the Harry Bar.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Yeah, and especially after the newspaper apologized and acknowledged its mistake.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yes, all right, we'll stay with the folks here on
this Morning Run. When we continue, Elon Musk is going
back to his day job. Also, those flaming hot cheetos,
they might still be hot, but they might not look
flaming anymore because of something that Rfk Junior is now doing.
And the story of the day, do not miss an
extraordinary moment in a Texas courtroom, a woman puts her

(12:48):
arms around the man who shot and killed her round.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Welcome back everyone to Morning Run, and we continue to
run here in the States. After Elon Musk announced that
he would be spending less time running the Department of
Government Efficiencies starting next month, Tesla stock got its first
boost in a while following a stunning report that showed
its quarterly profits fell by seventy one percent from January

(13:22):
to March of this year.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
I must say, now he's going to be spending about
a day or two a week working at Doze but
we'll be allocating far more of my time to Tesla.
And after those remarks, Tesla stock jumped five percent in
after hours trading. Tesla stock has dropped more than forty
percent this year, Musk personally losing more than one hundred
and twenty billion dollars. That sounds awful. You know what,

(13:45):
maybe my mood is different because I look at that.
I go, Wow, what a blessing that you have one
hundred and twenty billion to lose and your lights don't
get cut off like he's okay.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
It's kind of it's mindfulwing when you think about those
kinds of numbers, and he's hoping to rever and certainly
he's trying to do that perhaps by going back to work.
Tesla has some big plans in the coming months. They
announced this. The company is planning to roll out a
less expensive version of its best selling vehicle, that's the
Model Y SUV by summer. It's also rolling out a

(14:16):
paid driverless robo taxi in Austin, Texas in June, and
his plans to add that to other cities shortly after
must telling this to reporters. I'm got to quote him here.
There will be millions of Tesla's operating autonomously in the
second half of the year. Can you go to sleep
in our cars and wake up at your destination. I'm
confident that will be available in many cities in the

(14:38):
US by the end of this year. I don't know
how I feel about that.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
It sounds scary.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Now.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
I guess we're going to go this direction eventually, right, Yeah,
every innovation. I mean, it's amazing that planes thousands are
taking off in landing today with that incident.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
So okay, this is direction. I ain't sleeping in the
car with no driver. Come on, some of the drivers.
I don't even want to go to sleep. Yeah, exactly,
we continue here on this morning run with your flaming
hot Cheetos might not look so hot anymore. Your skittles?
Can you really taste the rainbow two cans? Sam, he's
got some issues with his fruit lubs possibly, and then

(15:12):
mountain dew.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
It's green, right, it's like a bright fluorescent yellow. Actually isruly? Yeah,
the can's green with the drink is like a fluorescent yellow.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Okay. I mentioned all these things, and they might not
look the same moving forward. But Robert F. Kennedy Junior
says they'll be safer to eat and drink. Sounds delicious.
The FDA is going to phase out eight artificial food
dyes and colorings found in many of your favorite candy, cereals, yogurts,
and soft drinks.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
That's right, Rfkjunior, Total Reporter. Except for the past fifty years,
American children have increasingly been living in a toxic soup
of synthetic chemicals. His words. The head of the FDA
was with him there and claims that the stud there
are studies that have found a link between these petroleum
based dyes and several health issues like eighty eight obesity, diabetes, cancer,

(16:02):
and gastro intestioninal issues. I also would just say that
the foods in which these dyes are being put into
aren't exactly the healthiest foods in the world, so that
would also be could be a link contributing factor to
some of those aforementioned ailments.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
So we're just dealing with dyes. This morning. We're gonna
say goodbye to citrus red number two. Oh no, it
so and then orange Bee, Oh my god, that orange
bee is gonna be gone in the next few months.
Those two will and then by the end of next year.
No more Green number three, Red number forty, Yellow number five,
Yellow number six, Blue number one, and blue number two

(16:40):
all gone by the end of next year. But blue
number four is okay, right, okay, So I guess I
don't know. The FDA is also asking for companies to
speed up the timeline for getting rid of red dye
number three after it was shown to cause cancer and rest.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Oh my well, the Biden administration already had started that
process of getting rid of red dye number three back
in January before he left office. Here's the other issue.
It's unclear how HHS or the FDA will actually enforce
these new changes with food companies, Kennedy telling reporters that
they don't have an agreement, they have an understanding. The
head of the FDA also said that they've had plenty

(17:16):
of meetings with food companies, who he claims are eager
to start this process of removing these dies and move
to more natural dies, which means we just won't have
the same vibrant colors.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
And that's fine. The stuff tastes the same. It's not
there for taste anyway, it's not.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
It's just for the look of it.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Here you go, all right, final leg of our run today,
and you all are gonna have to bear with me.
I'm gonna get through this thing, Robes, I'm gonna get
through it. But this is the story. Tears have been
streaming down my face this morning. I've been hiding from
Robot as we prepare the morning run. But this is
out of Texas, where there was an extraordinary moment in
a Texas courtroom. A woman shocked everybody when she said

(17:52):
she wished she could hug the man who murdered her brother.
A judge shocked the courtroom further when he allow allowed
her to do so.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
For the past two days, victim impact statements have been
taking place in the case of Patrick Crusius, who pleaded
guilty Monday in the racist mass shooting at an El
Paso walmart back in twenty nineteen. He killed twenty three people,
and while several victims family family members got up and
expressed understandable anger, Yolanda Tinahero took a much different approach.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
If her brother was killed by Crusius in that attack,
but she expressed sympathy towards him and sadness for the
shooter and said this to him in the courtroom. If
you would have come before to get to know our culture,
you would have experienced what warm and good hearted people
us Hispanics are. We would have opened our doors to
you to share a meal, breakfast, lunch, your dinner Mexican style.

(18:48):
So then your ugly thoughts of us that have been
instilled in you would have turned around.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
Wow, already got chills. I have chills. You can see
them on my life. And then she went on to
say this in my heart, I want to hug you
very tight so you could feel my forgiveness, especially my loss,
but I know it's not allowed. I want you to
see and feel all of us who have been impacted

(19:13):
by your actions that have brought us all closer to
God's love. Would show you that this great city of
El Paso is a forgiving place. She concluded her statement
and turning to head back to her seat in the courtroom,
when Judge Sam Madrano stopped her and asked, ma'am, would
it truly bring you peace and comfort if you could
hug him?

Speaker 2 (19:35):
She said yes, and yes, this moment happened. She walked
over to Crusius, who was in the jury box at
the time, along with his lawyers hearing these statements, he
was standing. Officers were nearby, flanking them all to actually
make sure everybody was safe. She put her arms around
him for an extended period of time. This was a
long embrace. He said something in his ear. We don't

(19:55):
know what that was. He seemed to nod to her
in acknowledgement. And at this what point you all the
reports the one cameras in the room at the time,
but the reports are that just about everybody in that
courtroom was in tears, including the judge.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
The I mean, people talk about the power of forgiveness,
and that was what we all just witnessed. Even we
don't see it, but we see it in our minds,
and we all put ourselves in her position and ask
ourselves could we do the same, And I think most
of us could not. So that that is just truly
remarkably of a just a true, a true showing of

(20:36):
love for God's love.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Her daughter even said, it's like, I don't know how
she did it, So I don't know how in the
world she was able to do that. So this was
I think the line the thing that got me. And
when I heard I saw the headline of the story
but to hear her say, if you would have gotten
to know us, we would have welcomed you in and
given you a meat, Like Jesus, can we all just
do that thing, just take time to get to know somebody.

(20:58):
For her to say that, and I've been in tears
all morning over this story. It's just beautiful. This story
is absolutely beautiful. And there was another Again, there were
twenty three people who were killed. There were a lot
of impact statements. A woman who had given hers earlier
the day before, heard about this moment in court, went
back to the judge and requested and asked, you know

(21:20):
what can I do the same? Wow, on behalf of
my family. Wow. He allowed it.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Came back and that one there are pictures off.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
So take that with you today. Yes, it's sad there
was a shooting, but there was some beauty in what
this woman did and the words that she used and
extended to a guy who did this to her family.
So it was a beautiful story. I was struggling with
that one all morning.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Do you remember yesterday's morning run where we kind of said, wow,
that was just a really like it was a tough
news day. There was really nothing positive and we said,
we're going to try to find some more positive stories
for today, and my goodness, even just watching the pope
and the remembrances and and how he's being honored and
the lessons hopefully that he taught us all are now

(22:04):
being received in a different, maybe more powerful way. And
then to end with what this woman did. Really you
can't explain what she was able to do except for
perhaps the power of the divine, the power of God,
the power of her faith and her belief and forgiveness.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
It's remarkable and it goes along with what you've plucked
out as our quote of the day, something, folks, we'd
like for you to consider if you go about your day.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Today, what we have done for ourselves alone dies with
us what we have done for others, and the world
remains and is immortal. Thought that was perfect with the stories.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
We had today, and no explanation there needed, So we
hope that you take that with you today, certainly the
story of Yolanda Tinaharo, but also this quote, what we
have done for ourselves alone dies with us what we
have done for others, and the world remains and is immortal.
And with that, folks, we always appreciate you running with us.
I'm gonna get it together be back wed you tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Too, and I'm Amy Roebuck. Everyone, please have a wonderful
Wednesday and we'll see you on the run tomorrow. Mm
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