December 4, 2025 • 40 mins
Onyeka Ehie from Colton Underwood’s season is involved in a wild story of lies and scandals… that could be the craziest story to come out of Bachelor Nation!
Zachary Reality is back to help us break down Onyeka’s multi-part TikTok series “The Danish Deception” - from tales of being from royal lineage to being an Olympic athlete...this story is WILD!
We try to get to the bottom of what happened, and Zachary Reality shares his expert opinions!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Ben and Ashley I almost famous podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
With on our radio. It's almost his podcast. We're here
today with you and we're breaking down a TikTok phenomenon
that is happening right now and it's closely related to
Bachelor Nation. We're very excited today because we have one
of our favorite people joining us for this deep dive now,
(00:25):
Zachary Realities with us. Hello, Hey, I want to start
this with this. Ayaka has came out and said, hey,
she feels like there's been a lot of victim shaming
going on as she posts these videos on TikTok. We're
going to dive into what these videos are we call it,
and she's calling it the Danish deception. I'll be honest,
(00:47):
I have questions for Anyaika. I think she is definitely
the victim here. This is awful, this is not good.
A lot of bad stuff happened to her. But I
do have questions that if she was here with us
and we did ask her to participate and hopefully at
some point she does, I would be asking her straight
to her face. But our attempt today is to break
down this wild story and the best way we know how,
(01:12):
not only in support of her, but also wanting to
ask the questions of how does this happen and how
does it happen for so long? Zachary and Ashley, are
you ready to talk about the Danish Deception?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Yes, let's talk about the Dnnis deception, which is very
similar to stories that have became popular in the past
few years. Who the F Did I Marry? On TikTok
by Reesa Tisa that was her true life story and
the Tindler Swindler on Netflix.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Zachary, you're familiar with this story. You've broken it down
a multiple times. Do you mind just kind of walking
us through your understanding of kind of the base level
maybe part one of Anyaika's video that she posted on TikTok.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Yeah, So, basically, she met this guy in Croatia and
she was smitten by him, and he really liked her,
and it seems like he loved bombed her. So he
was inviting her on trips pretty quickly, and she started
to get feelings for this guy, so she fell in
love with him, and basically she later found out that
(02:21):
he was a gambler, that he was lying, he was
borrowing money from her, So she fell in love with
someone who ended up being a con artist. So that's
basically like the story.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
She doesn't just fall in love quickly. She ends up
getting married to him very quickly. Do we know why
she just courthouse? Oh the green card. The girl was scammed.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
I mean there was one point that like her address
was on his house and like he was really taking
advantage of her.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
The story gets wild, you said, did a great job
at kind of setting this scene for us. As you mentioned,
Anyaka goes with a friend to quote Croatia where she
meets this dude and he's an attractive fellaw. I mean,
that guy is a very handsome man. He's like, what
six foot four, he's muscular, and they're making eyes there
(03:14):
in Croatia and they get flirty. But the electricity, like
the chemistry is off the charts for the two of
them at the beginning and really at the beginning of
this relationship. It's a very normal relationship outside of the
fact that it's very long distance, right.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Yeah, But there's a lot of trips.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
I mean the first like six months, it seems like
they're traveling everywhere all the time. And what's interesting is
in the beginning he was paying for these trips and
then eventually she started paying for the trips, and she
started loaning him money. And I think that's why everyone
is so shocked, is because she who loans someone money
that often, like all the time, and like, how could
her family and friends loan hand money and not even
(03:55):
tell her.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Well, yeah, so he tells her that he makes at
least one hundred thousand a year. To me, the sirens
would be going off if this man who's making four
hundred thousand a year is asking me for money.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
Who asks like a grown man for money?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Well he he also mentioned he's a part of royal lineage. Yeah.
He also at the beginning of this relationship just kind
of in passing mentions that he participated in the Olympics
and handball. So he is setting the scene here to
be this kind of one of a kind I've got
(04:32):
it all catch that so many people you know would
be attracted to. I can see where her initial reaction is,
Oh my gosh, I found my dream partner. And I
want to pause here and ask you both your opinion,
because he does pay for these initial trips, and they're
not inexpensive trips. She mentions the glamour and the luxury
(04:54):
and where they're staying during these trips. I hear that,
and I think he is so manipulative that he is
trying to also set the scene and say, I am
this wealthy guy and this is what I can do
for you. Or do you think he at the beginning
had good intentions.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I think that he had bad intentions the entire time.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Me too.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Apparently he just married her right off the bat for
a green guard, and I don't even know that he
wanted to even live in the US. He seems very
entrenched in whatever frauds he's doing in Europe, but I
think he wanted to bring his frauds over here just
to have another demographic.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Before we get to the marriage, there is a lot
of things that happened in between there. She mentions that
on a date with him, and I think this is
just a wild footnote that feels like a big deal.
She passes out after a dinner, right and she falls
down after a dinner and is unconscious at the dinner,
(05:56):
wakes up and he says that she's been having seizures.
She's peede herself. She finds herself in the hospital and
he is there beside her the whole time. Which is
I think where she first mentions that she loves him,
that she's falling in love with him at the hospital
(06:16):
after this very dramatic event. Now do we know anything
more about this event because it is a it's a
big deal, especially if this hasn't happened to her very often.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Right, I mean, that's what everyone was saying.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
It was like, your body is telling you not to go,
And isn't that something that happens on like The Bachelor.
I remember that one girl got sick and she couldn't
go on her one on one day because she was
like throwing up or something.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
I don't know who that was.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Am I being too conspiratorial and thinking that it's weird
that she ends up having a sees you're bleeding from
her head and then like and having a severe concussion
after dinner with him, as like I think, do I
think that possibly he puts something in something I don't know?
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I mean, it's the question that I wanted to ask, Okay,
and I think again, we're coming at this at kind
of guessing and you know, throwing out these ideas. But
when she mentions that she passes out at dinner and
then we now have the hindsight of seeing who this
man is. I go and seizures are not a part
(07:20):
of her life. This has never happened again, all these things.
I'm like, what was put in her drink? Was my
if a friend called me and said, I went on
a date last night all of a sudden stood up
from dinner, passed out and had seizures, And I'm like,
you don't seem to be a person that's told me
about your seizures before, Like I've never had them. I'd
be like, you got to get out of there, like
(07:40):
something's bad, Like so you got to get check, go
to the doctor and see what's in your drink?
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Literally, I mean, oh, I just remembered it was Beverly
from Grant season. She like got sick, remember you guys.
You guys probably interviewed her. But I think that maybe
she saw that as like wow, like I was at
my lowest and he took care of me, like he
stepped up for me. He took care of me in
the hospital and I was, you know, in another country.
So I think she was just very manipulated by this guy.
And I think the big thing that he had that
(08:07):
intentions is because she later found out that he had
another girlfriend. Four months into their relationship when she finally
realized who he was. That's when she reached out to
his ex, his sister, and found out all of the
red flags that she has been ignoring the whole time.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
But are they they're married at this point.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Now they're divorced. They got divorced, which is great that
it happened so fast.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
But she's not finding this out until the divorce.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Well, she found out once she found out that he
was a con man, and she started looking into things
once once once he broke up with her. And that's
also crazy, is he was the one that broke up
with her. It wasn't the other way around.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
So she was just wanting to go a lot anymore.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
She was just so out of it, like she was
so in love and could not think clearly.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
So the scene is now set. They meet in Croatia,
they go on these dates. Let's just kind of that.
There's like nineteen to twenty six. I forget how many
TikTok videos there are of this. They go on all
these dates. She's falling in love, he's taking care of her.
As you mentioned, when they first met, he was still
with his girlfriend. That this was like he was still
(09:18):
tied up. So I do think, to answer my first question,
there was bad intentions maybe from the beginning, because well,
he entered into the relationship while still in a relationship,
which I just think for most people, unless that's disgusted,
is not an acceptable thing.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
To do.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Then. And I don't want to use the word brilliance,
but in like the most greedy evil brilliance somebody can
come up with. He starts slowly asking for money and
having all these excuses on why he needs the money,
and so they're in relationship now. Anyaka thinks that she
has met her prince Charming, that he's from royal lineage,
(09:58):
that he's an Olympian, that he's very wealthy, and then
he starts saying, you know, talking about all these problems
that he has on why he needs money. One of
the excuses is that the irs has his money tied
up due to some confusion. The other one is that
there is a really good investment in a business that
(10:18):
he needs to make, but he doesn't have the cash
available to do that. Another one is that his parents
will no longer kind of release their trust funds to
him for this trip that he wants to take with
her because they need to meet her first, and so
he asked for her to pay for certain things for
this trip. There's all these excuses that he starts to
(10:42):
come up with, and slowly but surely, as you mentioned, Zachary,
she starts sending him money and upwards of at the beginning,
I think like five thousand dollars at a time.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Yeah, it's a lot of three k is a lot
of ten k's.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
And I think that she wanted to contry because it
seemed like she got a lot of things for free.
And I think she wanted to prove to this man
that she really loves him in that marriage. To her,
this relationship is an equal partnership. So I think she
originally was just like manipulated by him, and she wanted
to help him out. She does pretty well on her own,
she's a real estate agent. But I think after a
few times, it's just too fishy and there's too much,
(11:20):
Like when do you get tired of like all this
back and forth and all the lies and why nothing
ever makes sense. I kind of feel like Anyaika, you know,
she should be mad at herself for just like not
seeing the signs clearer. And I wish that her family
stepped in more when they found out that they were
being asked.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
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Speaker 3 (12:47):
I had a friend who was in a sort of
simpler ish relationship. She ended up finding out the end
of like over a two year relationship from his parents
that he was over one hundred thousand in debt after
she paid for a number of things like getting his
car out of the impound and paying for so much
(13:07):
of their lives. And she always knew it was suspicious.
She was always trying to defend our like highbrow, you know,
I was like, eh, eh, and I think and she
kind of admits that she was just with him because
she was kind of like not really wanting to be single,
(13:28):
and I was afraid of what her life would look
like like as like a thirty something single And I
just feel like that's probably I mean, I don't know.
On Yek's obviously beautiful. She can have anybody. So is
my friend who had the same situation. There's no way
she didn't actually see what was going on and thinking
it was suspect. It's just a matter of choosing to like,
(13:50):
do I want to continue to be in this comfortable
ish relationship, you know, comfortable relationship with this guy that
I find obviously very attractive, or do I want to
be with you know? Or do I want to be single?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I mean, I think we're raising questions that are worth asking,
And especially with Anyeka's background, she's very intelligent. She's a
real estate agent in Dallas. She's used to background checks
and financial checks. She understands like how finance works and
how personal finance works, and how loans work. Now there
(14:25):
is the level where international law is different than our
domestic law here in the United States, and so there
is probably the ability for a while to talk about
how banks are unwilling to loan money to him and
his country. Now that is not true. In fact, some
of the most successful banks are Danish banks. But maybe
(14:46):
there was that kind of back and forth that he's
able to play into. I think this is a good
moment for us to pause, though, and recognize the power
attraction and love at the time can play into blinding
(15:06):
us from some very clear things that are right in
front of us. I think, Zach, you brought up the
best question. Maybe it was you, Ashley, I forget who
said it. Where was her family and friends at during
this well.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
They were actually so into him. Whenever they would meet him,
she said that they loved him, the parents especially.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
She also kept it from them. She kept a few
things from them. Here's a big point in this story. So,
just a few months into their dating, they decide to
get married without telling anybody else. They do a courthouse
wedding so that he can start the process of getting
getting an immigration attorney to walk him through getting citizenship
(15:47):
here in the United States. And so, because of her
family and it being a traditional Nigerian family, she chooses that, yes,
this is the best option. Let's get married, Let's make
it a fish. Let's start this process and then when
we're ready, because goodness gracious, we both know we're going
to marry each other. You actually propose we could do
(16:08):
a white dress wedding. Everything's good, but let's at least
do the semantics of getting married legally first so that
process can start.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Okay, Yeah, And you know it's bad when like you
don't want to tell anybody you're doing something, that's when
you know you shouldn't be doing it, because if you
tell someone you're gonna get married, someone's going to tell
you no.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
So that's why.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
She probably kept it a secret, and I am glad
that she got divorced from him pretty easily because the
divorce could sometimes take years, right Like, it seems like
she was able to get it done and she didn't
start talking about it online until after the divorce was finalized,
which I think was interesting and the most The biggest
question I have is like, what does he think of
(16:47):
the Datish Deception? What does he think that she put
this all out online? Like has he seen the videos?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Well?
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Didn't somebody mention I'm not sure if we were recording
yet that he is still off doing scams as of like.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
A week ago.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Yeah, he was in Saloum.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
He's been spot in Tuloom. I'm sure he's familiar with
the Danish Deception. And Jaikin never releases his name during
her show or dure there.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
But she had a couple's in a TikTok with him.
She posted him on her TikTok for years or like
a year, a bunch of couple videos. They did trends,
and then she deleted every single video restarted. She did
a really good job I think branding the series the
Danish Deception, it's so good and I think it'll be
really interesting to see if this does get picked up
(17:33):
by a network and become a documentary.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
There's a few things that I want to point out.
After they got the courthouse wedding done with, he said
that he couldn't afford a ring, and she.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Was okay with that.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Again, like, is she not question why did he even
say that he came for money or was like royal
or anything. If he just continuously proves that he doesn't
have any liquidity, then he says that the Irs called him,
and so is this the American Irs? He owes three
hundred and eighteen thousand dollars in taxes and his dad
(18:07):
owes twelve million.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Yeah, I'm assuming that would be the Danish Irs because
of their family business. You know, I think we've probably
all of us are old enough and have walked through
life long enough to recognize and see that insecurities oftentimes
bring about lying in people, right. I mean, it's getting
(18:35):
in the habit of lying, seeing the attention that you
can get from lying. You can talk about how you're
in the Olympics and everybody wants to ask you about
it. It feels good, especially when you're insecure and you're not
getting that attention from other places. It really sounds like
he started lying from the very start and couldn't get himself.
I don't know if he actually ever wanted to. Typically
what happens is somebody trying these to get themselves out
(18:56):
of the hole of the lies they dug and told.
It doesn't sound like he ever tried to. He was
just continued to dig more and more lies to continue
to get more and more money. Which is interesting that
he is the one that at the end called this
whole thing off and asked her to the divorce because
he might have gotten what he wanted. The big reason here,
if any of us are asking where did this money go?
(19:20):
There was over I think the number is three hundred
thousand dollars on Yeka for like is trying to. I
think it's been hard because of family and friends of
hers and also herself. But about three hundred thousand dollars,
let's assume, based on her estimates that are missing and
were given to this guy, three hundred thousand dollars, Ladies
(19:40):
and gentlemen, that's a lot of freaking money.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Let's talk about how he was hiding the money that
her family was giving him. He would say things like,
I'm building a house. This is his secret, just get
can you if you could give me three hundred I
thout three thousand just for like a down payment on
land a lot or blah blah blah blah, and that
(20:03):
is crazy And she ends up telling them I'm leaving
this guy and they're like, uh, he took money for
me and has it reimbursed me before yet?
Speaker 5 (20:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
He told her sister like, can you lend me some
money so I can buy a yaka like this present
or this car.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
I'd be like, no, she doesn't need it. You can't
pay for it, then no.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
I think the biggest thing is like if someone asks
me for money, like I'm literally gonna say no, Like
ask someone else. I don't loan out money to people like.
I just don't understand how she could constantly loan out
money to this guy or anyone like.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
It just doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
I personally have And this was early on in this
whole thing, uh like my my, I guess this whole
thing meaning my life, where one of my mentors told me, hey,
don't loan money out to people like there may be
helped support them whatever, but if you need to just
pay for something, do it. Don't loan the money out
because it's two hard a relationship, and it also restricts
(21:02):
how much you're going to be giving somebody, And so
I don't loan money. Like you said, if somebody called
me and asked for three thousand dollars, I'd say, that's crazy, buddy, Like,
let's sit down and talk about this. Let's figure out
how you know we can get this going together. But
three thousand dollars over and over and over again is wild.
I don't want to take away from the fact that
Anyako was generous. Her family was very generous. I think
(21:24):
they had good hearts in this, and we should amplify
that he was manipulating everybody. They thought they were being
kind in their generosity and he took advantage of it. Yes,
should it have happened over and over again? No goodness.
If Aanyeko was here, I'd say, how in the world
did you keep letting this happen? And why in the
world did you keep saying yes to it. That's a
(21:45):
very fair question that I think she's probably gonna get
asked over and over. However, they were generous and she
trusted him at this point, but she soon finds out
in the course of this relationship that he has a
severe gambling addiction. Still does not put the points together
to go I've been giving him money and he is
(22:07):
severe gambling addiction, and he goes to Gamblers Anonymous. He gets,
you know, the help that she asked him to get,
but she doesn't put it together yet that this money's
probably going to gambling.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
She's gotta be putting it together. She just still wants
to be with him.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
A gambler.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
That's like a toxic disease. Could it be like doing drugs?
Like everyone has their vice, Like I can totally see
why a gambler would get addicted and then they want
to keep gambling because then they want to be like,
now I can make the money back that I already lost.
So I get how it could be a cycle and
is a serious problem.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
One hundred percent. It's also makes sense on why at
some points he needs three K, in some points he
needs one hundred and twenty K. It depends on how
he feels about whatever games he's playing or betting on,
and how he thinks he can make this money back.
There's this show that just came out in the movie
that just came out in Netflix with Colin Farrell about
this thing specifically, is he is addicted to the next win,
(23:05):
to the bigger win, to the bigger win, to the
bigger win. And the thing with gamblers is even when
you win, you don't stop. That's why casinos make money.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
So do you think he's going to go to jail?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I don't know how he could.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
What do you do illegally not giving the irs anything,
owing them so much?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
What time out? Did he ever need? Like, did Dirs
actually ever want need his money? That was fake? Oh,
that was fake. Yeah, he said it was frozen, that
his assets were frozen, that he couldn't get anything out,
and so that was a way for him to get
more money.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
I'm being fooled. It was a way of him getting
more money for gambling.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
Yeah, you don't go to jail for lying.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
You don't get to go to jail for livy. I'm saying, like,
I don't know Anyaika and her family. Did they ever
have anything in writing, even on a piece of paper
saying that he was going to pay us back? Probably
not this money. Unfortunately, as bad as this is, I'm
not saying he shouldn't go to jail, like or that
he should you know that, goodness, this guy should not
(24:09):
be walking free. I'm just saying that I don't think
he actually did anything illegal.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
I think he did, but we don't know what it is.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
I'm sure, Okay, yeah, say at some point in his
life he has. But well, based on the information from
this story, can any of us actually say that he
did anything illegal? As much as that hurts to say.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
I feel like he did, like I think there's something
in there. I mean, conning people like for years and years.
But she did say that, like he passed like the
background check, so that kind of like gave her some
reassurance that like things were moving along, especially like getting
a marriage license.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Yeah, the background check did show that he never participated
in the Olympics. So that is another moment where she's like, oh,
he's lying to but did he?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
How did she not google him and to see my
immediately the Olympics. And he's definitely had a characters on
the internet if that.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Stake family heritage page, so he was so committed to
the life no way.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Apparently he also was doing like a lot of fake
screenshots saying like look I sent my money. I sent
the money back to your parents, and that's when she
started to really put it together. She was on a
bachelorette trip and that's when he was supposed to have
gotten the good news from the IRS that his business
account was not frozen. It actually has three hundred thousand
in it. So he's going to wire ten k to
(25:39):
her mom, I think for the wedding dress, to put
down a deposit on the dress, and the money still
hasn't hit her account after a few days, and this
is when she confronts him and she's like, so, what
has all this been a lie? And that's when she
realized that he's been sending the fake screenshots to make
it look like he was sending money.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
What a sure.
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Speaker 2 (27:16):
Well, this guy is pretty good at what he does, though,
because another story came out in the midst of this
that there was a friend of his he had taken
two hundred thousand dollars from this person and had not
paid it back. I don't know about you, guys, I
never have claimed to be the most talented human in
(27:37):
the world. I did work in sales for a period
in my life. I couldn't think of one person that
I could convince to give me one thousand dollars, let
alone two hundred thousand dollars. That is a crazy amount
of money. And then go off and do it again
(27:57):
tuan Yeka and her family and her friends, and do
it even though definitely evil, not okay, but do it
successfully over and over and over again.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Well, he was probably saying, like, I have this business,
do you want to invest in it? And he went
to like a big wig.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
It started that way. Definitely did this. You know, TikTok
has blown up, and as we mentioned, they do end
up getting in this fight over the confrontation of hey,
the money's not coming through, what's going on? And he says,
I'm over and I'm tired of all the questions. This
is done. The divorce starts, but at that point he's
(28:41):
already gotten what he wanted, right, he got the money,
and Anyaika goes through the divorce process and as Zachary mentioned,
she does the Danish deception on TikTok. Following the divorce's finalization.
It's blown up. Think it should be more blown up
(29:02):
than it is. I think this is one of the
wilder stories that we've heard in a long time, especially
coming out of Bachelor Nation.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
I know, like we need to talk about the fact
that she was on the Bachelor, Like this is amazing
for people that don't remember, Like she was on Colton season,
and she had a lot of drama on the season,
like she was vibrant and fun.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Please remind us what that drama was. I remember there
was drama around here, but I don't remember what it
specifically was.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Everyone's been watching these YouTube clips from like nine years ago.
But basically, like Alease, this girl on the show went
home and Alise basically told Onyeka that there was a
conversation that Nicole wasn't on the show for the right
reasons and wanted opportunities to get out of Miami. And
then Elise got sent home at the rost ceremony. So
then Anyaka took it upon herself to tell Colton what
(29:49):
Elise said, like at the next thir day, and then
that kind of got confronted in the group. Nicole started
crying and they were going back and forth like neither
one of them would shut up for like two days
that Colton just sent both of them home.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
Oh my gosh, I remembering about it.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Ben knows a lease that's where he got his dog from.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
And then she went to Bachelor in Paradise and she
kind of was nosy in that too. That was the
season with like Blake and Hannah g so like Caylin.
So she was kind of like in her little nose
and everything, but you know, she was harmless.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
She didn't find love.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
She actually sent herself home at a row ceremony and
just said, I don't see anyone here for me.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
I'm going to go.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
And then she also was on Coming Out Colton Colton's
you know Coming Out Netflix Stock series, and that's when
Colton told her that the reason she really was sent
home is because she was too smart in figuring out
that he was secretly gay, and that's why she went
home when she did.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Did she really figure that out?
Speaker 4 (30:46):
She was like getting skeptical or Colton was insecure that
she would be the first one to kind of figure
it out. Obviously he was hiding himself. So she even
got flack for that too, because a lot of the
girls were like mad at Colton for everything that happened
with Cassie. But you know, she was the only one
to agree to film Coming Out Coulton because maybe other
people were.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Asked, well, hold up, Yes, she could have just been
like a stand in kind of to represent all the
girls in that docuseries. But if what he's saying is legit,
she has apparently pretty good intuition.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
Exactly, and she has the background in homes right like
she does background checks her finance stuff. So she really
you know, I'm sure she feels like an idiot and
all she can do now is tell her story. I'm
sure she's gonna make money from this and hopefully, you know,
there's love coming for her in the future.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
I know. I know she's mentioned that the feedback has
been tough because there's been this victim shaming kind of
mentality coming through. I don't look at it. I mean,
I think she's still the victim here. I'm not seeing
this as anything like she got to tell her story.
Her story is one that's captivating. But I do think
(31:57):
it's fair that her story brings up quite question of
how does this happen? Which I think she probably expected
to get, not the part of him stealing all this
money is sad and shocking, But I think for me,
the most interesting part is how, like, how does it
(32:20):
happen over and over and over again? And I don't
want that to come off as a victim shaming. I'm
not saying that she's wrong in this by any means.
I'm just saying, how, like, how does it happen for
so long that you don't see it right?
Speaker 4 (32:35):
And that's why everyone's mad at her, Like, the reason
she's getting flat is because everyone's like, you're an idiot,
wake up hello, Like you're too old and educated to
be ignoring these blatant red flags. So I think that's
why a lot of the criticism is coming. There's been
a lot of TikTokers making videos of recapping her story,
Like I feel like I've seen it a lot on
my algorithm the last couple of weeks, and I'm still
(32:55):
invested in it and dying to see what happens next.
I have my notifications on, So I really hope that
she gets picked up by like a docu series and
we can really see like the whole movie. And I
really hope we get to hear from the guy soon.
I don't know if we ever will, but I'm interested,
you know where his whereabouts are and what he's going
to do next, because this is the first time that
(33:16):
his life has maybe been blown up. He's obviously been
conning people for a decade, but this is the first
time someone's really calling him out for it. So I
don't know how that will affect his life.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
He's an idiot in because he never saw that, Hey,
I'm dating a girl with a following m hmm. This
could backfire, like this could this could backfire. I no
longer get to do this in the secrets and the
hidden places. Yeah, you know, the world may know.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
He had everyone He had an yaka block her his
ex girlfriend, like all these people from Denmark. She blocked
all these people on Instagram because he made her do
it in the beginning of their relationship. So he was
like really ahead of making sure that she had no
communication with anyone that knew his past.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
And let's just also point out that just this month,
because we said that he was doing the scams, it
was actually with the hooker. He was spotted with a
hooker taking out cash at ATM.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
He can only go down from here. I mean I.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Would imagine in the connected world that we're in today,
it will be very hard for him, especially if somebody
picks this up, to navigate in the world. We don't
know where the tender Swindler is these days. I mean,
I guess I could probably find out. I haven't like
investigated it, but I'm assuming that it's harder and harder
for con artists like this to navigate in the world
(34:40):
and to find people to take advantage of in this way.
Once you know, social media like this, you know gets
picked up. She also mentions, and I do think this
is a fair point that some of the shame that
she's been feeling from the responses on her show, this
is why people stay quiet. Uh yeah, I don't, at
(35:03):
least from this conversation, Like none of us here are
saying that Ayaka was in the wrong, and we're saying
her story is so captivating that it brings up questions
that are obvious and what we want answered more not
as much as the specifics and the details of their timeline,
(35:23):
but the like inner dialogues that are going on is
what's interesting to me of how easily we can be
convinced to do something. Anyaika, we're on your team here.
We just got some questions that we want to ask
you at some.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
Point for sure, And I think she'll the story is
going to continue to unravel. You know, she's still posting
on TikTok about it.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
It was I think it.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Was a twenty six or twenty eight part series and
then she just stopped counting and just started talking about
other things. But you know, she's gotten a lot of
support too, and oh yeah, I think she'll grow from this,
and you know she'll make the money back with this
newfound clout.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Okay, I hope.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
So I'm gonna throw something else back out there. Do
we think that maybe she was catching on and then thought, well,
I'm already married to this jackass. Maybe I should just
continue it.
Speaker 7 (36:14):
For the lore.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
Maybe she can be a connartist with him.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
I'm doing it for the plot.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
There's no shot the one. You have to You have
to predict that this story could be captivating enough to
capture the attention of somebody that would pay you to
do it.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
I mean, she probably watched the Resa Tisa thing that
woman got. She has like her own plenty of things
going on now, and she had like the most normal
job beforehand, and then she just happened to be a
perfect personality, and then two years later, you know she's
involved in media. I'm just spitfiring.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
I know it would be a wild, a wild thought.
I mean, I think cool things are happening in my life.
To think I could turn them into a television show
never comes to mind. And so maybe I just don't
see that. But this is a big story, and maybe
she did at some point say I see this and
I'm going to wait. It was obviously strategic that she
(37:16):
waited until the divorce was finalized to post these videos.
Now I do believe she will capitalize and for the
three hundred thousand dollars that are gone, I hope she
gets paid at least that from this experience and is
able to disperse those funds to all of those people
in her family and close network that also was, you know,
(37:40):
victims of the Danish deception.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
And I just I just want to finish by saying,
I'm just having fun. I'm sure she didn't do this
on purpose. Okay, it's just maybe she let it linger
a little longer.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
There are so many questions actually that come up. This
This is not clear cut. This is not one of
those stories. But I remember remember watching the Tinder Swindler
and saying the same thing, how in the world do
you let this happen? Like, how do you not see it?
And con artists and the manipulators are really good at
(38:20):
blinding people to the game that they're playing, and then
at some point that game ends, and at some point
every time they get caught or the manipulator gets tired.
So many lies bouncing around in this world, and so
many things happening in this world, how in the world
do you keep track of it all? Yeah, and the
(38:41):
light comes to the surface. And now we're getting the
story from on Yaka Bachelor Nation, wild stories coming out
of out of this little family. We'll hopefully get on
Yaka on. We did request some time with her. She
is working on a few things and unable to join
us at this moment, but we will continue to follow
(39:04):
up with her to try to get her on the show,
to ask her some of the questions that we just
want to ask, to help understand, and to teach all
of us how we and you listeners maybe don't fall
into the same trap we did have. Zachary Reality here today. Zachary,
if you don't mind promoting the projects you work on.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
You.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
We have you on here because we love following you
and listening to you and paying attention to the updates
that you give. But if you can give all of
our listeners kind of some spots that they can listen
more to you.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Yeah, just find me Zachary Reality Everywhere. I have so
many events and carpets coming up, and I'm in Miami
this week for Art bassal So I am super excited
to go out on the town. I do want to say, Ashley,
I am so excited that you're on the Real Housepisto
of Rhode Island.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
I am treading out about it. I watch all the Housewives.
I literally love Bravo.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Doesn't surprise me.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
I was Atocon this year and a lot of people
were really excited that you were on it. Toot fans.
I do think that you might get eaten alive.
Speaker 5 (40:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
The houselves are so tough, and you know, we do
know that you're very sensitive. So I'm excited to see
you cry again on TV. It's been a minute.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
Thanks, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Yes, I can't wait. I can't wait to see Ashley cry.
Wait you never Oh yeah, everywhere, just Google search Zachary Reality. Yeah,
you're at all the events, the carpets, you're breaking down
all the stories coming out of pop culture. You're doing
a great job at it. Thanks for joining us today
breaking down the Danish deception here on the Almost Famous Podcast.
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Until next time. I've been Ben, I've.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Been Ashley see you guys, and I've been Zachary. Yay,
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With on our radio. It's almost his podcast. We're here
today with you and we're breaking down a TikTok phenomenon
that is happening right now and it's closely related to
Bachelor Nation. We're very excited today because we have one
of our favorite people joining us for this deep dive now,
(00:25):
Zachary Realities with us. Hello, Hey, I want to start
this with this. Ayaka has came out and said, hey,
she feels like there's been a lot of victim shaming
going on as she posts these videos on TikTok. We're
going to dive into what these videos are we call it,
and she's calling it the Danish deception. I'll be honest,
(00:47):
I have questions for Anyaika. I think she is definitely
the victim here. This is awful, this is not good.
A lot of bad stuff happened to her. But I
do have questions that if she was here with us
and we did ask her to participate and hopefully at
some point she does, I would be asking her straight
to her face. But our attempt today is to break
down this wild story and the best way we know how,
(01:12):
not only in support of her, but also wanting to
ask the questions of how does this happen and how
does it happen for so long? Zachary and Ashley, are
you ready to talk about the Danish Deception?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Yes, let's talk about the Dnnis deception, which is very
similar to stories that have became popular in the past
few years. Who the F Did I Marry? On TikTok
by Reesa Tisa that was her true life story and
the Tindler Swindler on Netflix.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Zachary, you're familiar with this story. You've broken it down
a multiple times. Do you mind just kind of walking
us through your understanding of kind of the base level
maybe part one of Anyaika's video that she posted on TikTok.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Yeah, So, basically, she met this guy in Croatia and
she was smitten by him, and he really liked her,
and it seems like he loved bombed her. So he
was inviting her on trips pretty quickly, and she started
to get feelings for this guy, so she fell in
love with him, and basically she later found out that
(02:21):
he was a gambler, that he was lying, he was
borrowing money from her, So she fell in love with
someone who ended up being a con artist. So that's
basically like the story.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
She doesn't just fall in love quickly. She ends up
getting married to him very quickly. Do we know why
she just courthouse? Oh the green card. The girl was scammed.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
I mean there was one point that like her address
was on his house and like he was really taking
advantage of her.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
The story gets wild, you said, did a great job
at kind of setting this scene for us. As you mentioned,
Anyaka goes with a friend to quote Croatia where she
meets this dude and he's an attractive fellaw. I mean,
that guy is a very handsome man. He's like, what
six foot four, he's muscular, and they're making eyes there
(03:14):
in Croatia and they get flirty. But the electricity, like
the chemistry is off the charts for the two of
them at the beginning and really at the beginning of
this relationship. It's a very normal relationship outside of the
fact that it's very long distance, right.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Yeah, But there's a lot of trips.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
I mean the first like six months, it seems like
they're traveling everywhere all the time. And what's interesting is
in the beginning he was paying for these trips and
then eventually she started paying for the trips, and she
started loaning him money. And I think that's why everyone
is so shocked, is because she who loans someone money
that often, like all the time, and like, how could
her family and friends loan hand money and not even
(03:55):
tell her.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Well, yeah, so he tells her that he makes at
least one hundred thousand a year. To me, the sirens
would be going off if this man who's making four
hundred thousand a year is asking me for money.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
Who asks like a grown man for money?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Well he he also mentioned he's a part of royal lineage. Yeah.
He also at the beginning of this relationship just kind
of in passing mentions that he participated in the Olympics
and handball. So he is setting the scene here to
be this kind of one of a kind I've got
(04:32):
it all catch that so many people you know would
be attracted to. I can see where her initial reaction is,
Oh my gosh, I found my dream partner. And I
want to pause here and ask you both your opinion,
because he does pay for these initial trips, and they're
not inexpensive trips. She mentions the glamour and the luxury
(04:54):
and where they're staying during these trips. I hear that,
and I think he is so manipulative that he is
trying to also set the scene and say, I am
this wealthy guy and this is what I can do
for you. Or do you think he at the beginning
had good intentions.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I think that he had bad intentions the entire time.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Me too.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Apparently he just married her right off the bat for
a green guard, and I don't even know that he
wanted to even live in the US. He seems very
entrenched in whatever frauds he's doing in Europe, but I
think he wanted to bring his frauds over here just
to have another demographic.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Before we get to the marriage, there is a lot
of things that happened in between there. She mentions that
on a date with him, and I think this is
just a wild footnote that feels like a big deal.
She passes out after a dinner, right and she falls
down after a dinner and is unconscious at the dinner,
(05:56):
wakes up and he says that she's been having seizures.
She's peede herself. She finds herself in the hospital and
he is there beside her the whole time. Which is
I think where she first mentions that she loves him,
that she's falling in love with him at the hospital
(06:16):
after this very dramatic event. Now do we know anything
more about this event because it is a it's a
big deal, especially if this hasn't happened to her very often.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Right, I mean, that's what everyone was saying.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
It was like, your body is telling you not to go,
And isn't that something that happens on like The Bachelor.
I remember that one girl got sick and she couldn't
go on her one on one day because she was
like throwing up or something.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
I don't know who that was.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Am I being too conspiratorial and thinking that it's weird
that she ends up having a sees you're bleeding from
her head and then like and having a severe concussion
after dinner with him, as like I think, do I
think that possibly he puts something in something I don't know?
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I mean, it's the question that I wanted to ask, Okay,
and I think again, we're coming at this at kind
of guessing and you know, throwing out these ideas. But
when she mentions that she passes out at dinner and
then we now have the hindsight of seeing who this
man is. I go and seizures are not a part
(07:20):
of her life. This has never happened again, all these things.
I'm like, what was put in her drink? Was my
if a friend called me and said, I went on
a date last night all of a sudden stood up
from dinner, passed out and had seizures, And I'm like,
you don't seem to be a person that's told me
about your seizures before, Like I've never had them. I'd
be like, you got to get out of there, like
(07:40):
something's bad, Like so you got to get check, go
to the doctor and see what's in your drink?
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Literally, I mean, oh, I just remembered it was Beverly
from Grant season. She like got sick, remember you guys.
You guys probably interviewed her. But I think that maybe
she saw that as like wow, like I was at
my lowest and he took care of me, like he
stepped up for me. He took care of me in
the hospital and I was, you know, in another country.
So I think she was just very manipulated by this guy.
And I think the big thing that he had that
(08:07):
intentions is because she later found out that he had
another girlfriend. Four months into their relationship when she finally
realized who he was. That's when she reached out to
his ex, his sister, and found out all of the
red flags that she has been ignoring the whole time.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
But are they they're married at this point.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Now they're divorced. They got divorced, which is great that
it happened so fast.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
But she's not finding this out until the divorce.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Well, she found out once she found out that he
was a con man, and she started looking into things
once once once he broke up with her. And that's
also crazy, is he was the one that broke up
with her. It wasn't the other way around.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
So she was just wanting to go a lot anymore.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
She was just so out of it, like she was
so in love and could not think clearly.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
So the scene is now set. They meet in Croatia,
they go on these dates. Let's just kind of that.
There's like nineteen to twenty six. I forget how many
TikTok videos there are of this. They go on all
these dates. She's falling in love, he's taking care of her.
As you mentioned, when they first met, he was still
with his girlfriend. That this was like he was still
(09:18):
tied up. So I do think, to answer my first question,
there was bad intentions maybe from the beginning, because well,
he entered into the relationship while still in a relationship,
which I just think for most people, unless that's disgusted,
is not an acceptable thing.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
To do.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Then. And I don't want to use the word brilliance,
but in like the most greedy evil brilliance somebody can
come up with. He starts slowly asking for money and
having all these excuses on why he needs the money,
and so they're in relationship now. Anyaka thinks that she
has met her prince Charming, that he's from royal lineage,
(09:58):
that he's an Olympian, that he's very wealthy, and then
he starts saying, you know, talking about all these problems
that he has on why he needs money. One of
the excuses is that the irs has his money tied
up due to some confusion. The other one is that
there is a really good investment in a business that
(10:18):
he needs to make, but he doesn't have the cash
available to do that. Another one is that his parents
will no longer kind of release their trust funds to
him for this trip that he wants to take with
her because they need to meet her first, and so
he asked for her to pay for certain things for
this trip. There's all these excuses that he starts to
(10:42):
come up with, and slowly but surely, as you mentioned, Zachary,
she starts sending him money and upwards of at the beginning,
I think like five thousand dollars at a time.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Yeah, it's a lot of three k is a lot
of ten k's.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
And I think that she wanted to contry because it
seemed like she got a lot of things for free.
And I think she wanted to prove to this man
that she really loves him in that marriage. To her,
this relationship is an equal partnership. So I think she
originally was just like manipulated by him, and she wanted
to help him out. She does pretty well on her own,
she's a real estate agent. But I think after a
few times, it's just too fishy and there's too much,
(11:20):
Like when do you get tired of like all this
back and forth and all the lies and why nothing
ever makes sense. I kind of feel like Anyaika, you know,
she should be mad at herself for just like not
seeing the signs clearer. And I wish that her family
stepped in more when they found out that they were
being asked.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
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Speaker 3 (12:14):
You know.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
I think he's he's a guy spends time in Central Park.
You know, he's probably don't need to be some surgery.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Stuff, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
And I was like, all this kind of stuff going on,
and they were like yeah, yeah, yeah, fine, and they said,
but he's impotent, and I was like, he's impotent.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
And why he chose not to return to it?
Speaker 5 (12:29):
Just like that?
Speaker 6 (12:30):
They came and presented an idea and I was like,
I get I see it.
Speaker 7 (12:33):
It's so kind of a one joke idea.
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Speaker 3 (12:47):
I had a friend who was in a sort of
simpler ish relationship. She ended up finding out the end
of like over a two year relationship from his parents
that he was over one hundred thousand in debt after
she paid for a number of things like getting his
car out of the impound and paying for so much
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of their lives. And she always knew it was suspicious.
She was always trying to defend our like highbrow, you know,
I was like, eh, eh, and I think and she
kind of admits that she was just with him because
she was kind of like not really wanting to be single,
(13:28):
and I was afraid of what her life would look
like like as like a thirty something single And I
just feel like that's probably I mean, I don't know.
On Yek's obviously beautiful. She can have anybody. So is
my friend who had the same situation. There's no way
she didn't actually see what was going on and thinking
it was suspect. It's just a matter of choosing to like,
(13:50):
do I want to continue to be in this comfortable
ish relationship, you know, comfortable relationship with this guy that
I find obviously very attractive, or do I want to
be with you know? Or do I want to be single?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I mean, I think we're raising questions that are worth asking,
And especially with Anyeka's background, she's very intelligent. She's a
real estate agent in Dallas. She's used to background checks
and financial checks. She understands like how finance works and
how personal finance works, and how loans work. Now there
(14:25):
is the level where international law is different than our
domestic law here in the United States, and so there
is probably the ability for a while to talk about
how banks are unwilling to loan money to him and
his country. Now that is not true. In fact, some
of the most successful banks are Danish banks. But maybe
(14:46):
there was that kind of back and forth that he's
able to play into. I think this is a good
moment for us to pause, though, and recognize the power
attraction and love at the time can play into blinding
(15:06):
us from some very clear things that are right in
front of us. I think, Zach, you brought up the
best question. Maybe it was you, Ashley, I forget who
said it. Where was her family and friends at during
this well.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
They were actually so into him. Whenever they would meet him,
she said that they loved him, the parents especially.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
She also kept it from them. She kept a few
things from them. Here's a big point in this story. So,
just a few months into their dating, they decide to
get married without telling anybody else. They do a courthouse
wedding so that he can start the process of getting
getting an immigration attorney to walk him through getting citizenship
(15:47):
here in the United States. And so, because of her
family and it being a traditional Nigerian family, she chooses that, yes,
this is the best option. Let's get married, Let's make
it a fish. Let's start this process and then when
we're ready, because goodness gracious, we both know we're going
to marry each other. You actually propose we could do
(16:08):
a white dress wedding. Everything's good, but let's at least
do the semantics of getting married legally first so that
process can start.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Okay, Yeah, And you know it's bad when like you
don't want to tell anybody you're doing something, that's when
you know you shouldn't be doing it, because if you
tell someone you're gonna get married, someone's going to tell
you no.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
So that's why.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
She probably kept it a secret, and I am glad
that she got divorced from him pretty easily because the
divorce could sometimes take years, right Like, it seems like
she was able to get it done and she didn't
start talking about it online until after the divorce was finalized,
which I think was interesting and the most The biggest
question I have is like, what does he think of
(16:47):
the Datish Deception? What does he think that she put
this all out online? Like has he seen the videos?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Well?
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Didn't somebody mention I'm not sure if we were recording
yet that he is still off doing scams as of like.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
A week ago.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Yeah, he was in Saloum.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
He's been spot in Tuloom. I'm sure he's familiar with
the Danish Deception. And Jaikin never releases his name during
her show or dure there.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
But she had a couple's in a TikTok with him.
She posted him on her TikTok for years or like
a year, a bunch of couple videos. They did trends,
and then she deleted every single video restarted. She did
a really good job I think branding the series the
Danish Deception, it's so good and I think it'll be
really interesting to see if this does get picked up
(17:33):
by a network and become a documentary.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
There's a few things that I want to point out.
After they got the courthouse wedding done with, he said
that he couldn't afford a ring, and she.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Was okay with that.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Again, like, is she not question why did he even
say that he came for money or was like royal
or anything. If he just continuously proves that he doesn't
have any liquidity, then he says that the Irs called him,
and so is this the American Irs? He owes three
hundred and eighteen thousand dollars in taxes and his dad
(18:07):
owes twelve million.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Yeah, I'm assuming that would be the Danish Irs because
of their family business. You know, I think we've probably
all of us are old enough and have walked through
life long enough to recognize and see that insecurities oftentimes
bring about lying in people, right. I mean, it's getting
(18:35):
in the habit of lying, seeing the attention that you
can get from lying. You can talk about how you're
in the Olympics and everybody wants to ask you about
it. It feels good, especially when you're insecure and you're not
getting that attention from other places. It really sounds like
he started lying from the very start and couldn't get himself.
I don't know if he actually ever wanted to. Typically
what happens is somebody trying these to get themselves out
(18:56):
of the hole of the lies they dug and told.
It doesn't sound like he ever tried to. He was
just continued to dig more and more lies to continue
to get more and more money. Which is interesting that
he is the one that at the end called this
whole thing off and asked her to the divorce because
he might have gotten what he wanted. The big reason here,
if any of us are asking where did this money go?
(19:20):
There was over I think the number is three hundred
thousand dollars on Yeka for like is trying to. I
think it's been hard because of family and friends of
hers and also herself. But about three hundred thousand dollars,
let's assume, based on her estimates that are missing and
were given to this guy, three hundred thousand dollars, Ladies
(19:40):
and gentlemen, that's a lot of freaking money.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Let's talk about how he was hiding the money that
her family was giving him. He would say things like,
I'm building a house. This is his secret, just get
can you if you could give me three hundred I
thout three thousand just for like a down payment on
land a lot or blah blah blah blah, and that
(20:03):
is crazy And she ends up telling them I'm leaving
this guy and they're like, uh, he took money for
me and has it reimbursed me before yet?
Speaker 5 (20:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
He told her sister like, can you lend me some
money so I can buy a yaka like this present
or this car.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
I'd be like, no, she doesn't need it. You can't
pay for it, then no.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
I think the biggest thing is like if someone asks
me for money, like I'm literally gonna say no, Like
ask someone else. I don't loan out money to people like.
I just don't understand how she could constantly loan out
money to this guy or anyone like.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
It just doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
I personally have And this was early on in this
whole thing, uh like my my, I guess this whole
thing meaning my life, where one of my mentors told me, hey,
don't loan money out to people like there may be
helped support them whatever, but if you need to just
pay for something, do it. Don't loan the money out
because it's two hard a relationship, and it also restricts
(21:02):
how much you're going to be giving somebody, And so
I don't loan money. Like you said, if somebody called
me and asked for three thousand dollars, I'd say, that's crazy, buddy, Like,
let's sit down and talk about this. Let's figure out
how you know we can get this going together. But
three thousand dollars over and over and over again is wild.
I don't want to take away from the fact that
Anyako was generous. Her family was very generous. I think
(21:24):
they had good hearts in this, and we should amplify
that he was manipulating everybody. They thought they were being
kind in their generosity and he took advantage of it. Yes,
should it have happened over and over again? No goodness.
If Aanyeko was here, I'd say, how in the world
did you keep letting this happen? And why in the
world did you keep saying yes to it. That's a
(21:45):
very fair question that I think she's probably gonna get
asked over and over. However, they were generous and she
trusted him at this point, but she soon finds out
in the course of this relationship that he has a
severe gambling addiction. Still does not put the points together
to go I've been giving him money and he is
(22:07):
severe gambling addiction, and he goes to Gamblers Anonymous. He gets,
you know, the help that she asked him to get,
but she doesn't put it together yet that this money's
probably going to gambling.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
She's gotta be putting it together. She just still wants
to be with him.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
A gambler.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
That's like a toxic disease. Could it be like doing drugs?
Like everyone has their vice, Like I can totally see
why a gambler would get addicted and then they want
to keep gambling because then they want to be like,
now I can make the money back that I already lost.
So I get how it could be a cycle and
is a serious problem.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
One hundred percent. It's also makes sense on why at
some points he needs three K, in some points he
needs one hundred and twenty K. It depends on how
he feels about whatever games he's playing or betting on,
and how he thinks he can make this money back.
There's this show that just came out in the movie
that just came out in Netflix with Colin Farrell about
this thing specifically, is he is addicted to the next win,
(23:05):
to the bigger win, to the bigger win, to the
bigger win. And the thing with gamblers is even when
you win, you don't stop. That's why casinos make money.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
So do you think he's going to go to jail?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I don't know how he could.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
What do you do illegally not giving the irs anything,
owing them so much?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
What time out? Did he ever need? Like, did Dirs
actually ever want need his money? That was fake? Oh,
that was fake. Yeah, he said it was frozen, that
his assets were frozen, that he couldn't get anything out,
and so that was a way for him to get
more money.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
I'm being fooled. It was a way of him getting
more money for gambling.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
Yeah, you don't go to jail for lying.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
You don't get to go to jail for livy. I'm saying, like,
I don't know Anyaika and her family. Did they ever
have anything in writing, even on a piece of paper
saying that he was going to pay us back? Probably
not this money. Unfortunately, as bad as this is, I'm
not saying he shouldn't go to jail, like or that
he should you know that, goodness, this guy should not
(24:09):
be walking free. I'm just saying that I don't think
he actually did anything illegal.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
I think he did, but we don't know what it is.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
I'm sure, Okay, yeah, say at some point in his
life he has. But well, based on the information from
this story, can any of us actually say that he
did anything illegal? As much as that hurts to say.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
I feel like he did, like I think there's something
in there. I mean, conning people like for years and years.
But she did say that, like he passed like the
background check, so that kind of like gave her some
reassurance that like things were moving along, especially like getting
a marriage license.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Yeah, the background check did show that he never participated
in the Olympics. So that is another moment where she's like, oh,
he's lying to but did he?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
How did she not google him and to see my
immediately the Olympics. And he's definitely had a characters on
the internet if that.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Stake family heritage page, so he was so committed to
the life no way.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Apparently he also was doing like a lot of fake
screenshots saying like look I sent my money. I sent
the money back to your parents, and that's when she
started to really put it together. She was on a
bachelorette trip and that's when he was supposed to have
gotten the good news from the IRS that his business
account was not frozen. It actually has three hundred thousand
in it. So he's going to wire ten k to
(25:39):
her mom, I think for the wedding dress, to put
down a deposit on the dress, and the money still
hasn't hit her account after a few days, and this
is when she confronts him and she's like, so, what
has all this been a lie? And that's when she
realized that he's been sending the fake screenshots to make
it look like he was sending money.
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Speaker 2 (27:16):
Well, this guy is pretty good at what he does, though,
because another story came out in the midst of this
that there was a friend of his he had taken
two hundred thousand dollars from this person and had not
paid it back. I don't know about you, guys, I
never have claimed to be the most talented human in
(27:37):
the world. I did work in sales for a period
in my life. I couldn't think of one person that
I could convince to give me one thousand dollars, let
alone two hundred thousand dollars. That is a crazy amount
of money. And then go off and do it again
(27:57):
tuan Yeka and her family and her friends, and do
it even though definitely evil, not okay, but do it
successfully over and over and over again.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Well, he was probably saying, like, I have this business,
do you want to invest in it? And he went
to like a big wig.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
It started that way. Definitely did this. You know, TikTok
has blown up, and as we mentioned, they do end
up getting in this fight over the confrontation of hey,
the money's not coming through, what's going on? And he says,
I'm over and I'm tired of all the questions. This
is done. The divorce starts, but at that point he's
(28:41):
already gotten what he wanted, right, he got the money,
and Anyaika goes through the divorce process and as Zachary mentioned,
she does the Danish deception on TikTok. Following the divorce's finalization.
It's blown up. Think it should be more blown up
(29:02):
than it is. I think this is one of the
wilder stories that we've heard in a long time, especially
coming out of Bachelor Nation.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
I know, like we need to talk about the fact
that she was on the Bachelor, Like this is amazing
for people that don't remember, Like she was on Colton season,
and she had a lot of drama on the season,
like she was vibrant and fun.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Please remind us what that drama was. I remember there
was drama around here, but I don't remember what it
specifically was.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Everyone's been watching these YouTube clips from like nine years ago.
But basically, like Alease, this girl on the show went
home and Alise basically told Onyeka that there was a
conversation that Nicole wasn't on the show for the right
reasons and wanted opportunities to get out of Miami. And
then Elise got sent home at the rost ceremony. So
then Anyaka took it upon herself to tell Colton what
(29:49):
Elise said, like at the next thir day, and then
that kind of got confronted in the group. Nicole started
crying and they were going back and forth like neither
one of them would shut up for like two days
that Colton just sent both of them home.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
Oh my gosh, I remembering about it.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Ben knows a lease that's where he got his dog from.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
And then she went to Bachelor in Paradise and she
kind of was nosy in that too. That was the
season with like Blake and Hannah g so like Caylin.
So she was kind of like in her little nose
and everything, but you know, she was harmless.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
She didn't find love.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
She actually sent herself home at a row ceremony and
just said, I don't see anyone here for me.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
I'm going to go.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
And then she also was on Coming Out Colton Colton's
you know Coming Out Netflix Stock series, and that's when
Colton told her that the reason she really was sent
home is because she was too smart in figuring out
that he was secretly gay, and that's why she went
home when she did.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Did she really figure that out?
Speaker 4 (30:46):
She was like getting skeptical or Colton was insecure that
she would be the first one to kind of figure
it out. Obviously he was hiding himself. So she even
got flack for that too, because a lot of the
girls were like mad at Colton for everything that happened
with Cassie. But you know, she was the only one
to agree to film Coming Out Coulton because maybe other
people were.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Asked, well, hold up, Yes, she could have just been
like a stand in kind of to represent all the
girls in that docuseries. But if what he's saying is legit,
she has apparently pretty good intuition.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
Exactly, and she has the background in homes right like
she does background checks her finance stuff. So she really
you know, I'm sure she feels like an idiot and
all she can do now is tell her story. I'm
sure she's gonna make money from this and hopefully, you know,
there's love coming for her in the future.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
I know. I know she's mentioned that the feedback has
been tough because there's been this victim shaming kind of
mentality coming through. I don't look at it. I mean,
I think she's still the victim here. I'm not seeing
this as anything like she got to tell her story.
Her story is one that's captivating. But I do think
(31:57):
it's fair that her story brings up quite question of
how does this happen? Which I think she probably expected
to get, not the part of him stealing all this
money is sad and shocking, But I think for me,
the most interesting part is how, like, how does it
(32:20):
happen over and over and over again? And I don't
want that to come off as a victim shaming. I'm
not saying that she's wrong in this by any means.
I'm just saying, how, like, how does it happen for
so long that you don't see it right?
Speaker 4 (32:35):
And that's why everyone's mad at her, Like, the reason
she's getting flat is because everyone's like, you're an idiot,
wake up hello, Like you're too old and educated to
be ignoring these blatant red flags. So I think that's
why a lot of the criticism is coming. There's been
a lot of TikTokers making videos of recapping her story,
Like I feel like I've seen it a lot on
my algorithm the last couple of weeks, and I'm still
(32:55):
invested in it and dying to see what happens next.
I have my notifications on, So I really hope that
she gets picked up by like a docu series and
we can really see like the whole movie. And I
really hope we get to hear from the guy soon.
I don't know if we ever will, but I'm interested,
you know where his whereabouts are and what he's going
to do next, because this is the first time that
(33:16):
his life has maybe been blown up. He's obviously been
conning people for a decade, but this is the first
time someone's really calling him out for it. So I
don't know how that will affect his life.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
He's an idiot in because he never saw that, Hey,
I'm dating a girl with a following m hmm. This
could backfire, like this could this could backfire. I no
longer get to do this in the secrets and the
hidden places. Yeah, you know, the world may know.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
He had everyone He had an yaka block her his
ex girlfriend, like all these people from Denmark. She blocked
all these people on Instagram because he made her do
it in the beginning of their relationship. So he was
like really ahead of making sure that she had no
communication with anyone that knew his past.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
And let's just also point out that just this month,
because we said that he was doing the scams, it
was actually with the hooker. He was spotted with a
hooker taking out cash at ATM.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
He can only go down from here. I mean I.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Would imagine in the connected world that we're in today,
it will be very hard for him, especially if somebody
picks this up, to navigate in the world. We don't
know where the tender Swindler is these days. I mean,
I guess I could probably find out. I haven't like
investigated it, but I'm assuming that it's harder and harder
for con artists like this to navigate in the world
(34:40):
and to find people to take advantage of in this way.
Once you know, social media like this, you know gets
picked up. She also mentions, and I do think this
is a fair point that some of the shame that
she's been feeling from the responses on her show, this
is why people stay quiet. Uh yeah, I don't, at
(35:03):
least from this conversation, Like none of us here are
saying that Ayaka was in the wrong, and we're saying
her story is so captivating that it brings up questions
that are obvious and what we want answered more not
as much as the specifics and the details of their timeline,
(35:23):
but the like inner dialogues that are going on is
what's interesting to me of how easily we can be
convinced to do something. Anyaika, we're on your team here.
We just got some questions that we want to ask
you at some.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
Point for sure, And I think she'll the story is
going to continue to unravel. You know, she's still posting
on TikTok about it.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
It was I think it.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Was a twenty six or twenty eight part series and
then she just stopped counting and just started talking about
other things. But you know, she's gotten a lot of
support too, and oh yeah, I think she'll grow from this,
and you know she'll make the money back with this
newfound clout.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Okay, I hope.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
So I'm gonna throw something else back out there. Do
we think that maybe she was catching on and then thought, well,
I'm already married to this jackass. Maybe I should just
continue it.
Speaker 7 (36:14):
For the lore.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
Maybe she can be a connartist with him.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
I'm doing it for the plot.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
There's no shot the one. You have to You have
to predict that this story could be captivating enough to
capture the attention of somebody that would pay you to
do it.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
I mean, she probably watched the Resa Tisa thing that
woman got. She has like her own plenty of things
going on now, and she had like the most normal
job beforehand, and then she just happened to be a
perfect personality, and then two years later, you know she's
involved in media. I'm just spitfiring.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
I know it would be a wild, a wild thought.
I mean, I think cool things are happening in my life.
To think I could turn them into a television show
never comes to mind. And so maybe I just don't
see that. But this is a big story, and maybe
she did at some point say I see this and
I'm going to wait. It was obviously strategic that she
(37:16):
waited until the divorce was finalized to post these videos.
Now I do believe she will capitalize and for the
three hundred thousand dollars that are gone, I hope she
gets paid at least that from this experience and is
able to disperse those funds to all of those people
in her family and close network that also was, you know,
(37:40):
victims of the Danish deception.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
And I just I just want to finish by saying,
I'm just having fun. I'm sure she didn't do this
on purpose. Okay, it's just maybe she let it linger
a little longer.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
There are so many questions actually that come up. This
This is not clear cut. This is not one of
those stories. But I remember remember watching the Tinder Swindler
and saying the same thing, how in the world do
you let this happen? Like, how do you not see it?
And con artists and the manipulators are really good at
(38:20):
blinding people to the game that they're playing, and then
at some point that game ends, and at some point
every time they get caught or the manipulator gets tired.
So many lies bouncing around in this world, and so
many things happening in this world, how in the world
do you keep track of it all? Yeah, and the
(38:41):
light comes to the surface. And now we're getting the
story from on Yaka Bachelor Nation, wild stories coming out
of out of this little family. We'll hopefully get on
Yaka on. We did request some time with her. She
is working on a few things and unable to join
us at this moment, but we will continue to follow
(39:04):
up with her to try to get her on the show,
to ask her some of the questions that we just
want to ask, to help understand, and to teach all
of us how we and you listeners maybe don't fall
into the same trap we did have. Zachary Reality here today. Zachary,
if you don't mind promoting the projects you work on.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
You.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
We have you on here because we love following you
and listening to you and paying attention to the updates
that you give. But if you can give all of
our listeners kind of some spots that they can listen
more to you.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Yeah, just find me Zachary Reality Everywhere. I have so
many events and carpets coming up, and I'm in Miami
this week for Art bassal So I am super excited
to go out on the town. I do want to say, Ashley,
I am so excited that you're on the Real Housepisto
of Rhode Island.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
I am treading out about it. I watch all the Housewives.
I literally love Bravo.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Doesn't surprise me.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
I was Atocon this year and a lot of people
were really excited that you were on it. Toot fans.
I do think that you might get eaten alive.
Speaker 5 (40:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
The houselves are so tough, and you know, we do
know that you're very sensitive. So I'm excited to see
you cry again on TV. It's been a minute.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
Thanks, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Yes, I can't wait. I can't wait to see Ashley cry.
Wait you never Oh yeah, everywhere, just Google search Zachary Reality. Yeah,
you're at all the events, the carpets, you're breaking down
all the stories coming out of pop culture. You're doing
a great job at it. Thanks for joining us today
breaking down the Danish deception here on the Almost Famous Podcast.
(40:41):
Until next time. I've been Ben, I've.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Been Ashley see you guys, and I've been Zachary. Yay,
he gets it.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
He's good.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
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