June 17, 2025 • 17 mins
Another wild morning on Day 25 of the Diddy Trial with the Judge threatening both the defense and prosecution with possible criminal charges if he finds out who leaked sealed information to the press. Amy and T.J. get you up to date on the latest news from the courtroom now that juror #6 is gone, the judge will decide the fate of juror #7 by the end of the day. Meantime, Diddy’s assistant Brendan Paul has been granted immunity to begin his testimony for the prosecution after jurors heard federal agents connect the dots of Diddy’s financial transactions to his alleged criminal activity, including a 46-thousand dollar Penthouse bill for damage to an LA hotel room.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, folks, it is Tuesday, June seventeenth. Testimony is underway
as we speak, and the judge is pissed on what
is now officially the sixth week, day twenty five of
testimony in the Diddy trial. Welcome to this episode of
Amy and TJ. We continue to be your one stop
every day to get you all caught off on what's
happening in the Diddy trial. And rogues once again, before
(00:23):
testimony even starts, fireworks are popping off, and it seems
like the judge, now, this is some of the strong
he's amoonnaged some folks with behavior in the court. This
is as strong a language as I've seen come out
of the court room.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
He didn't even mince words. He addressed the defense and
the prosecution and said someone is lying because he says
there was a leak, there was information in an article.
We don't know what the news article is specifically, and
what the information he was upset about is, but he
said this transcript was sealed and there was information that
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came out in a news report that no one else
could have known except for the people who he was
looking at. And both the defense and the prosecution denied
leaking any information, and so the children, well, you know,
and I feel like this happens a lot even in newsrooms.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Or you start to say, who is the leak?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Who is going behind closed doors calling in a tip,
whether it's true or not, to skew public opinion, or
to have an impact on public relations, for whatever your
motivation is. We see this all the time.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Somebody did it.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Somebody one did it, and they all denied it.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
They all looked in the judge's face and said.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Denied it.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
It wasn't us.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
So he said, one or more people who were here
Friday in this courtroom, and I'm quoting the judge here
flagrantly violated this court's orders, a violation.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Of the court's ceiling order.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
But it wasn't just that the court imposed a gag
order on the government. The defendant, all the attorneys for
the defense, and anyone involved was made accountable.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Accountable.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
That is like when they say sealed, that's what they
actually literally mean. There's information that this group knows. That
information is what we know, but then we're putting it
in this document. It's going to be closed. Nobody else
can know it outside of us unless they open that document.
So what happened, Robes, what happened?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Someone was trying to see a public opinion.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
He is pissed, but I don't.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Know what the information is. I'm so curious as to
what the information is. But he wasn't just angry. He
said that he is going to investigate and whatever happens,
he said, he will find out and it could result
in civil or criminal contempt charges for all involved.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
That's serious, that is really serious. They're not playing when
they say a gag order, when a judge tells you
not to open your mouth, they are putting very s.
This is a federal court. They sure don't play with
this stuff.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
No, no, because this is someone's life is on the line.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
First of all.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Diddy's life is on the line, is on the line,
and the integrity of the court is also hanging in
the balance, because if you can't operate, and that's the
judge's responsibility, if you can't operate a courtroom that precedes
the way it's supposed to, that's fair and protects certain information,
then you don't have you know, that's the cornerstone, the
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foundation in part of our democracy and justice.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
So yeah, it is a big deal.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
And it can be the foundation of an appeal.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Correct, it doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
This is serious. So now you've who knows how much
money the federal government, I say, federal government taxpayers have
spent on this trial, and something like this trips it up.
There has to be a mistrial. We have to do
all this over. You understand why the judge is that
piss He is looking at people. One of y'all lied
to me. He doesn't know which one it is, and
then you'll lie to me again when I ask which
(03:51):
one he gives lining. Yeah, oh, this.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Is It's like a parent to high his children. He said.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
There is no passing the buck anymore. He said this too,
the prosecution and the defense. The buck stops with you.
If anything happens, lead council is responsible. So if your
client did something, or someone on your team did something,
don't care. It's the lead council's responsibility. Man.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
So, yeah, he was heated in the court this morning.
We did get and this is significant. You and I
are looking at the calendar. Wait a minute, this this
is overwin. Yeah, we are talking about this case possibly
being in the hands of the jury as early as
this time next week. The prosecution had been telling us
for a little while they thought they were going to
be done by Wednesday of this week with their case
(04:38):
Friday at the latest. But they're holding to right now Wednesday.
So as we sit here on Tuesday, Yes, as of
this recording, court is going on in the robes. It's
weird to think the prosecution could wrap its case tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Tomorrow, correct, and then Thursday is a federal holiday, It's Juneteenth,
And so if say the prosecution does wrap up on Wednesday,
the defense would begin on Friday. And they said they
needed anywhere from two to five days to present their defense.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah, so they said they're fill laying things out and
adjusting some things. But to think that maybe we could
see a Friday and a Monday or maybe to Tuesday,
the defense putting on its case and then jury instructions
and they could be deliberating in a week, in a
week after all this, to think it's coming through the
end like that feels odd.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
It's been with us.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
They've been with us, the stories, the jaw dropping testimony
has been with us now for several weeks. So it
just feels like it's a part of daily life now.
So what's gonna happen next No, but you know, this
has been basically a made for TV movie, a Netflix series,
so to speak, because you can't believe what you're hearing,
and it's been that shocking to find out what was
(05:48):
happening behind the scenes for decades, even in this world
that most of us couldn't even possibly imagine participating it.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
You say, a Netflix series, it's weird to be watching
a story that none of us can actually see. We
can't be in the courtroom. There is not a camera
in a federal courthouse, so we're The way the story
is being told leaves a lot to the imagination about
gestures and facial expressions and energy and all that in
(06:16):
the courtroom. This has been it to have such a
watched case that we can't watch so fascinating.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
It's almost like reading a book or listening to an
audiobook if you're listening to podcasts or reporters who are
covering it. But that's kind of the best way to
describe it. So I feel like I have a movie
in my mind, and perhaps that's best because I don't
know that I actually want to see the accompanying videos
that the jurors have been forced to watch. We'll get
into that in just a bit, because that's something that
(06:44):
will never leave you, so at least it's just my
own imagination. Perhaps that's a softer, kinder place. Now we
mentioned the jurors during number six was removed, and the
defense wanted to know what the judge told the other
jurors that was important to them. How he explained to
the other jurors why juror number six was removed, because there's,
of course it concern that that could prejudice or taint
(07:07):
the jury hearing that someone got removed for what reason,
And the judge told them.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Don't worry about it. Yeah, don't worry about it. He's gone,
don't worry about it, don't talk about it. Let's move on.
He said. He didn't give him anything. He just said
somebody was removed and not give any reasons for it,
and told them do not discuss it amongst yourselves. And
that's the end of story. So we got forty one
year old black mail out was it fifty sixty.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Seven year old white male architect from Westchester on the jury.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
So today is day twenty five of the case, but
it's day one of being without that juror. So he
is out of there, so the thing is now rode.
So we got one new juror, we could get another
new juror. I don't this is where does it sound
like it's leaning with this other guy?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
So the issue with the Juror number seven is apparently
that this juror and I believe they've used the pronoun he,
so it's a male.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Is accused of or.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
It's reported that he may have discussed the case with
a coworker, and somehow that got back to the judge,
and so now the judge told the defense and the
prosecution that he was going to handle this other issue
with Juror number seven at the end of the day.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Today. I still think it's interesting, though.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Because the jurors were told by the judge that they
can't discuss the circumstances around Juror number six. They aren't
allowed to discuss it even amongst themselves. But you know,
that's got to be eating at them. This is someone
who's been sitting with them for weeks and weeks and weeks,
and all of a sudden poof.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
He's gone. You know, there are these conspiracy theories.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
What did he do better?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
To say?
Speaker 3 (08:45):
How could they not discuss it. That seems really difficult.
And now if a second juror goes, it's just it
does it has to create a different atmosphere and a
different tone within the jurors.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I wonder how that affects.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Their just app like overall thoughts about the case and
how it's going.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
How could it affect their energy, what flow? Maybe they
were all kind of in the same mindset before. Now
you got two excuse me, just one right now, but
potentially two new people coming into the fray, coming into
the room, meeting people, starting to have lunch with them
and interact with them. Maybe it throws the whole dynamic
off in some way. Who the hell knows, but man,
(09:24):
I can't. All of a sudden, there seems like chaos
in the jury room. All of a sudden, there's another
one that's being brought in. And when this one gets replaced, Now,
this is now going to have an impact on the
adversity of the jury. That were four white jurors to
begin with. Now there's a fifth with the guy from
wet Westchester. Right, you take out one more juror, you
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might end up who knows, But now you're looking you
go from having a majority minority jury, so possibly a
fifty to fifty split in a matter of a couple
of days.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
And that could make a big difference in a case
like this.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Oh, my goodness, Yes, And what are they going to say,
I mean, is I believe we can expect the motion
from mistrial. The of course attorneys were saying, of course,
there's jury number six guy dismissed. They were going to
move for a mistrial if another one goes out.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
My goodness, every day there's something new and something that
could potentially make a huge difference in the outcome of
this trial. But we did have today Brendan Paul, who
is the assistant to Ditty. He took the fifth he
got immunity, so he is able to testify because he
(10:35):
was the one who was originally arrested on drug charges
around the same time that Didty was as well, So
those charges have all been dropped.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
And now that he is.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Actually cooperating with the prosecution in this testimony.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Is now that y'all are not going to charge me
for all this stuff I'm about to tell you all
about in open courts. So yeah, and I forgot the process. Yeah,
he has to go up on the stand and have
to go through a whole process. He has to be
sworn in, say I plead the fifth then granted immunity.
So he's been up on the stand already this morning,
but he's coming back down and the testimony continues now.
The lease of Penland is a special agent with the
(11:11):
US Attorney's Office. She was testifying yesterday. Continues their testimony
today and what the Washington Post, Well, how do they
quite dry testimony because they're having to go through all
the charts and text messages and hotel receipts. They're just
piecing this whole thing together, trying to show everybody that yes,
did he was the one in control and funding this
whole operation. So that's how they're making the case. So
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she's connecting the dots, but ropes. As always, some of
the details start going out about some of these hotel
nights and some of the hotel received charges and a
few kind of jumped out at people already that it's
talking about.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yes, there were some, there was some we've heard these
types of charges where there was five hundred dollars damaged
to drapes and carpets at the Beverly Hills Hotel. Most likely,
I'm going to go with baby oil. That's what we've heard,
at least from other hotel room problems. Nine hundred and
fifty dollars for deep cleaning at the Herge.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Hotel, Hermitage Armitage Hotel.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
I know how to say that and then okay, so
those are okay, not what any one of us would
typically want to see on our hotel bill. But there
was a big one from the Inner Continental Hotel from
October fifth, twenty twelve.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
There was some penthouse damage to the.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Tune of forty six thousand, seven hundred and eighty six dollars.
What the actual f How could you do that much
damage with a sex party. I'm trying to imagine what
could cost that much and what.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Penthouse at a nice hotel. Maybe he's a particular item
that was damaged.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
A rug, maybe a really excited you know, maybe.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
That may was a piano in there. Maybe there was.
Maybe it was actually something broken, because it's hard to
imagine just damage to drapes or.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Stained chandelier or someone could have been swinging off of it.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
I mean, who knows.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
To add that to the imagery, you know, I'm just.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
But I'm really trying to imagine how you could do
almost fifty thousand dollars with the damage in one night
or in a couple of nights to a penthouse. I've
never heard anything like that in my life.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
The details. Again, we've been listening to this stuff literally
now for six weeks. You think you have heard everything
about these parties, and some new witness gives you some
new detail and you go, what the actual hell all
over again now, Robes. The prosecution really is wrapping up now.
They have I think three witnesses left after the one
(13:44):
that's currently on the stand. Again as of this recording,
that person is still on the stand, but they have
three to go. Brendan Paul we mentioned his assistant, another
summary witness, and then another law enforcement agent. And that's
going to be it to think that after all this
and all all the investigation and all the raids and
all the arrests and all the videos we saw of
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him being taken away in September, that we get to
this moment that the prosecution says, Yep, that's our case.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
We rest Yeah, And I mean they have gone through
they have been a very very thorough in terms of
presenting evidence to the jury, yesterday.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
This was a big deal.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
For the first time, the jury was shown actual video
of some of those freak offs, those sex parties, those
hotel parties. Previously, they'd only seen still images and they
heard audio of the encounters. But on Monday, they were
shown three videos, and a couple of them were just
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like two minutes long, but there was one that was
forty minutes long, and some of the courtroom reporters were
describing the juror's facial expressions. It was uncomfortable, was what
I heard, or at least read that. Some reporters said
that they could see discomfort. And the point was the
execution was trying to show coercion. That these were videos
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of Cassie and tour Fine in some of these sex videos,
in the sex video, and they you know, obviously we
don't know what the videos were. I don't want to imagine,
but apparently it was they thought it was obvious that
she was not enjoying herself, so there was discomfort, and
then the jurors had to see that and take that
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in and again that's just something you can't unsee. I
can't imagine what that was like. And everyone was wearing headphones,
so the audio was not being played out in the
courtroom for everyone to hear, and after.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
That, we don't have a good handle on how many
folks the defense is planning to call. I think only
one place they wanted to call the the like the
Bad Boys Enterprises human resources person to the stand in
defensive Diddy. So it is all going to continue to
be fascinate.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I'm just saying.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
There were also reports that possibly the defense may call
Don Richard back up to the stand, but that seems
so interesting because they already Frost examined her. But that
is out there too that that may be someone who
they are looking to call to the stand. Another bit
of information I read was several high profile celebrities.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Who believe that they could possibly be.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Called by the defense are lawyering up to make sure
they're prepared just in case their names are called to
the stand in defense of Diddy. So we shall see
if there are any big name celebrities who end up
taking the stand. But I guess at this point anything's possible,
but they can't.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
They said, you know what, this is why they they
that's a big gap. We're going to be done in
two days or we're going to be done in five.
That's a big difference. I think they maybe they are
leaving some room for filling in some gaps and still
are filling in their witness list. But this thing is
wrapping up, folks, and as crazy as it sounds, but
the prosecution could rest as early as tomorrow. But we
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will be here and we will continue to be bringing
you the latest one stop shop, as you say, robes
and collecting all this We thanks to the Washington Post,
the CNN reporter in the room, who else is in
the room? USA? Today, we've been.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Using NBC News.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
We've seen all the main outlets have a reporter in there,
and so we've been checking all of the websites because
each reporter has a very different vantage point, takes in
different details. So we've been absorbing it all and then
giving you hopefully the best of the best. So we
appreciate you checking in with us and listening to us,
and please stay tuned because we will continue to keep
you updated on everything.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
On the Diddy trial.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
In the meantime, though, hope you all have a wonderful
day to day
Hey, folks, it is Tuesday, June seventeenth. Testimony is underway
as we speak, and the judge is pissed on what
is now officially the sixth week, day twenty five of
testimony in the Diddy trial. Welcome to this episode of
Amy and TJ. We continue to be your one stop
every day to get you all caught off on what's
happening in the Diddy trial. And rogues once again, before
(00:23):
testimony even starts, fireworks are popping off, and it seems
like the judge, now, this is some of the strong
he's amoonnaged some folks with behavior in the court. This
is as strong a language as I've seen come out
of the court room.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
He didn't even mince words. He addressed the defense and
the prosecution and said someone is lying because he says
there was a leak, there was information in an article.
We don't know what the news article is specifically, and
what the information he was upset about is, but he
said this transcript was sealed and there was information that
(00:59):
came out in a news report that no one else
could have known except for the people who he was
looking at. And both the defense and the prosecution denied
leaking any information, and so the children, well, you know,
and I feel like this happens a lot even in newsrooms.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Or you start to say, who is the leak?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Who is going behind closed doors calling in a tip,
whether it's true or not, to skew public opinion, or
to have an impact on public relations, for whatever your
motivation is. We see this all the time.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Somebody did it.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Somebody one did it, and they all denied it.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
They all looked in the judge's face and said.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Denied it.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
It wasn't us.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
So he said, one or more people who were here
Friday in this courtroom, and I'm quoting the judge here
flagrantly violated this court's orders, a violation.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Of the court's ceiling order.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
But it wasn't just that the court imposed a gag
order on the government. The defendant, all the attorneys for
the defense, and anyone involved was made accountable.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Accountable.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
That is like when they say sealed, that's what they
actually literally mean. There's information that this group knows. That
information is what we know, but then we're putting it
in this document. It's going to be closed. Nobody else
can know it outside of us unless they open that document.
So what happened, Robes, what happened?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Someone was trying to see a public opinion.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
He is pissed, but I don't.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Know what the information is. I'm so curious as to
what the information is. But he wasn't just angry. He
said that he is going to investigate and whatever happens,
he said, he will find out and it could result
in civil or criminal contempt charges for all involved.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
That's serious, that is really serious. They're not playing when
they say a gag order, when a judge tells you
not to open your mouth, they are putting very s.
This is a federal court. They sure don't play with
this stuff.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
No, no, because this is someone's life is on the line.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
First of all.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Diddy's life is on the line, is on the line,
and the integrity of the court is also hanging in
the balance, because if you can't operate, and that's the
judge's responsibility, if you can't operate a courtroom that precedes
the way it's supposed to, that's fair and protects certain information,
then you don't have you know, that's the cornerstone, the
(03:21):
foundation in part of our democracy and justice.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
So yeah, it is a big deal.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
And it can be the foundation of an appeal.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Correct, it doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
This is serious. So now you've who knows how much
money the federal government, I say, federal government taxpayers have
spent on this trial, and something like this trips it up.
There has to be a mistrial. We have to do
all this over. You understand why the judge is that
piss He is looking at people. One of y'all lied
to me. He doesn't know which one it is, and
then you'll lie to me again when I ask which
(03:51):
one he gives lining. Yeah, oh, this.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Is It's like a parent to high his children. He said.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
There is no passing the buck anymore. He said this too,
the prosecution and the defense. The buck stops with you.
If anything happens, lead council is responsible. So if your
client did something, or someone on your team did something,
don't care. It's the lead council's responsibility. Man.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
So, yeah, he was heated in the court this morning.
We did get and this is significant. You and I
are looking at the calendar. Wait a minute, this this
is overwin. Yeah, we are talking about this case possibly
being in the hands of the jury as early as
this time next week. The prosecution had been telling us
for a little while they thought they were going to
be done by Wednesday of this week with their case
(04:38):
Friday at the latest. But they're holding to right now Wednesday.
So as we sit here on Tuesday, Yes, as of
this recording, court is going on in the robes. It's
weird to think the prosecution could wrap its case tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Tomorrow, correct, and then Thursday is a federal holiday, It's Juneteenth,
And so if say the prosecution does wrap up on Wednesday,
the defense would begin on Friday. And they said they
needed anywhere from two to five days to present their defense.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah, so they said they're fill laying things out and
adjusting some things. But to think that maybe we could
see a Friday and a Monday or maybe to Tuesday,
the defense putting on its case and then jury instructions
and they could be deliberating in a week, in a
week after all this, to think it's coming through the
end like that feels odd.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
It's been with us.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
They've been with us, the stories, the jaw dropping testimony
has been with us now for several weeks. So it
just feels like it's a part of daily life now.
So what's gonna happen next No, but you know, this
has been basically a made for TV movie, a Netflix series,
so to speak, because you can't believe what you're hearing,
and it's been that shocking to find out what was
(05:48):
happening behind the scenes for decades, even in this world
that most of us couldn't even possibly imagine participating it.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
You say, a Netflix series, it's weird to be watching
a story that none of us can actually see. We
can't be in the courtroom. There is not a camera
in a federal courthouse, so we're The way the story
is being told leaves a lot to the imagination about
gestures and facial expressions and energy and all that in
(06:16):
the courtroom. This has been it to have such a
watched case that we can't watch so fascinating.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
It's almost like reading a book or listening to an
audiobook if you're listening to podcasts or reporters who are
covering it. But that's kind of the best way to
describe it. So I feel like I have a movie
in my mind, and perhaps that's best because I don't
know that I actually want to see the accompanying videos
that the jurors have been forced to watch. We'll get
into that in just a bit, because that's something that
(06:44):
will never leave you, so at least it's just my
own imagination. Perhaps that's a softer, kinder place. Now we
mentioned the jurors during number six was removed, and the
defense wanted to know what the judge told the other
jurors that was important to them. How he explained to
the other jurors why juror number six was removed, because there's,
of course it concern that that could prejudice or taint
(07:07):
the jury hearing that someone got removed for what reason,
And the judge told them.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Don't worry about it. Yeah, don't worry about it. He's gone,
don't worry about it, don't talk about it. Let's move on.
He said. He didn't give him anything. He just said
somebody was removed and not give any reasons for it,
and told them do not discuss it amongst yourselves. And
that's the end of story. So we got forty one
year old black mail out was it fifty sixty.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Seven year old white male architect from Westchester on the jury.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
So today is day twenty five of the case, but
it's day one of being without that juror. So he
is out of there, so the thing is now rode.
So we got one new juror, we could get another
new juror. I don't this is where does it sound
like it's leaning with this other guy?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
So the issue with the Juror number seven is apparently
that this juror and I believe they've used the pronoun he,
so it's a male.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Is accused of or.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
It's reported that he may have discussed the case with
a coworker, and somehow that got back to the judge,
and so now the judge told the defense and the
prosecution that he was going to handle this other issue
with Juror number seven at the end of the day.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Today. I still think it's interesting, though.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Because the jurors were told by the judge that they
can't discuss the circumstances around Juror number six. They aren't
allowed to discuss it even amongst themselves. But you know,
that's got to be eating at them. This is someone
who's been sitting with them for weeks and weeks and weeks,
and all of a sudden poof.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
He's gone. You know, there are these conspiracy theories.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
What did he do better?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
To say?
Speaker 3 (08:45):
How could they not discuss it. That seems really difficult.
And now if a second juror goes, it's just it
does it has to create a different atmosphere and a
different tone within the jurors.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I wonder how that affects.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Their just app like overall thoughts about the case and
how it's going.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
How could it affect their energy, what flow? Maybe they
were all kind of in the same mindset before. Now
you got two excuse me, just one right now, but
potentially two new people coming into the fray, coming into
the room, meeting people, starting to have lunch with them
and interact with them. Maybe it throws the whole dynamic
off in some way. Who the hell knows, but man,
(09:24):
I can't. All of a sudden, there seems like chaos
in the jury room. All of a sudden, there's another
one that's being brought in. And when this one gets replaced, Now,
this is now going to have an impact on the
adversity of the jury. That were four white jurors to
begin with. Now there's a fifth with the guy from
wet Westchester. Right, you take out one more juror, you
(09:46):
might end up who knows, But now you're looking you
go from having a majority minority jury, so possibly a
fifty to fifty split in a matter of a couple
of days.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
And that could make a big difference in a case
like this.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Oh, my goodness, Yes, And what are they going to say,
I mean, is I believe we can expect the motion
from mistrial. The of course attorneys were saying, of course,
there's jury number six guy dismissed. They were going to
move for a mistrial if another one goes out.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
My goodness, every day there's something new and something that
could potentially make a huge difference in the outcome of
this trial. But we did have today Brendan Paul, who
is the assistant to Ditty. He took the fifth he
got immunity, so he is able to testify because he
(10:35):
was the one who was originally arrested on drug charges
around the same time that Didty was as well, So
those charges have all been dropped.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
And now that he is.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Actually cooperating with the prosecution in this testimony.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Is now that y'all are not going to charge me
for all this stuff I'm about to tell you all
about in open courts. So yeah, and I forgot the process. Yeah,
he has to go up on the stand and have
to go through a whole process. He has to be
sworn in, say I plead the fifth then granted immunity.
So he's been up on the stand already this morning,
but he's coming back down and the testimony continues now.
The lease of Penland is a special agent with the
(11:11):
US Attorney's Office. She was testifying yesterday. Continues their testimony
today and what the Washington Post, Well, how do they
quite dry testimony because they're having to go through all
the charts and text messages and hotel receipts. They're just
piecing this whole thing together, trying to show everybody that yes,
did he was the one in control and funding this
whole operation. So that's how they're making the case. So
(11:34):
she's connecting the dots, but ropes. As always, some of
the details start going out about some of these hotel
nights and some of the hotel received charges and a
few kind of jumped out at people already that it's
talking about.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yes, there were some, there was some we've heard these
types of charges where there was five hundred dollars damaged
to drapes and carpets at the Beverly Hills Hotel. Most likely,
I'm going to go with baby oil. That's what we've heard,
at least from other hotel room problems. Nine hundred and
fifty dollars for deep cleaning at the Herge.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Hotel, Hermitage Armitage Hotel.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
I know how to say that and then okay, so
those are okay, not what any one of us would
typically want to see on our hotel bill. But there
was a big one from the Inner Continental Hotel from
October fifth, twenty twelve.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
There was some penthouse damage to the.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Tune of forty six thousand, seven hundred and eighty six dollars.
What the actual f How could you do that much
damage with a sex party. I'm trying to imagine what
could cost that much and what.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Penthouse at a nice hotel. Maybe he's a particular item
that was damaged.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
A rug, maybe a really excited you know, maybe.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
That may was a piano in there. Maybe there was.
Maybe it was actually something broken, because it's hard to
imagine just damage to drapes or.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Stained chandelier or someone could have been swinging off of it.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
I mean, who knows.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
To add that to the imagery, you know, I'm just.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
But I'm really trying to imagine how you could do
almost fifty thousand dollars with the damage in one night
or in a couple of nights to a penthouse. I've
never heard anything like that in my life.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
The details. Again, we've been listening to this stuff literally
now for six weeks. You think you have heard everything
about these parties, and some new witness gives you some
new detail and you go, what the actual hell all
over again now, Robes. The prosecution really is wrapping up now.
They have I think three witnesses left after the one
(13:44):
that's currently on the stand. Again as of this recording,
that person is still on the stand, but they have
three to go. Brendan Paul we mentioned his assistant, another
summary witness, and then another law enforcement agent. And that's
going to be it to think that after all this
and all all the investigation and all the raids and
all the arrests and all the videos we saw of
(14:05):
him being taken away in September, that we get to
this moment that the prosecution says, Yep, that's our case.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
We rest Yeah, And I mean they have gone through
they have been a very very thorough in terms of
presenting evidence to the jury, yesterday.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
This was a big deal.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
For the first time, the jury was shown actual video
of some of those freak offs, those sex parties, those
hotel parties. Previously, they'd only seen still images and they
heard audio of the encounters. But on Monday, they were
shown three videos, and a couple of them were just
(14:42):
like two minutes long, but there was one that was
forty minutes long, and some of the courtroom reporters were
describing the juror's facial expressions. It was uncomfortable, was what
I heard, or at least read that. Some reporters said
that they could see discomfort. And the point was the
execution was trying to show coercion. That these were videos
(15:03):
of Cassie and tour Fine in some of these sex videos,
in the sex video, and they you know, obviously we
don't know what the videos were. I don't want to imagine,
but apparently it was they thought it was obvious that
she was not enjoying herself, so there was discomfort, and
then the jurors had to see that and take that
(15:24):
in and again that's just something you can't unsee. I
can't imagine what that was like. And everyone was wearing headphones,
so the audio was not being played out in the
courtroom for everyone to hear, and after.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
That, we don't have a good handle on how many
folks the defense is planning to call. I think only
one place they wanted to call the the like the
Bad Boys Enterprises human resources person to the stand in
defensive Diddy. So it is all going to continue to
be fascinate.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I'm just saying.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
There were also reports that possibly the defense may call
Don Richard back up to the stand, but that seems
so interesting because they already Frost examined her. But that
is out there too that that may be someone who
they are looking to call to the stand. Another bit
of information I read was several high profile celebrities.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Who believe that they could possibly be.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Called by the defense are lawyering up to make sure
they're prepared just in case their names are called to
the stand in defense of Diddy. So we shall see
if there are any big name celebrities who end up
taking the stand. But I guess at this point anything's possible,
but they can't.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
They said, you know what, this is why they they
that's a big gap. We're going to be done in
two days or we're going to be done in five.
That's a big difference. I think they maybe they are
leaving some room for filling in some gaps and still
are filling in their witness list. But this thing is
wrapping up, folks, and as crazy as it sounds, but
the prosecution could rest as early as tomorrow. But we
(17:01):
will be here and we will continue to be bringing
you the latest one stop shop, as you say, robes
and collecting all this We thanks to the Washington Post,
the CNN reporter in the room, who else is in
the room? USA? Today, we've been.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Using NBC News.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
We've seen all the main outlets have a reporter in there,
and so we've been checking all of the websites because
each reporter has a very different vantage point, takes in
different details. So we've been absorbing it all and then
giving you hopefully the best of the best. So we
appreciate you checking in with us and listening to us,
and please stay tuned because we will continue to keep
you updated on everything.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
On the Diddy trial.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
In the meantime, though, hope you all have a wonderful
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