December 4, 2023 • 48 mins
Before she was in the LadyGang, Keltie Knight was a contestant on The Bachelor.
During this reunion with Chris, they relive her romance with Brad Womack.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.
Chris Harrison here in the home office in Austin, Texas,
and I got to get back to this conversation with
the Lady Gang. These amazing women who I have known
for years, Kelty Knight, Becka Tobin, Jack Vannick, three incredible
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women who were all married, but in different places in
their life. They have different expertises, but they have had
this successful podcast since twenty fifteen. And this is part
two of my conversation with the Lady Gang. So let's
get back into it. When I remember meeting Kelty, it
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was not on the show. For those that don't know,
Kelty was on The Bachelor. Brad Womack season of The Bachelor. Yeah,
don't blink, you're gonna miss it. But I don't remember
you from that show. I remember you from the entertainment
news business. That's where I feel like I met you,
and I think we had interviewed together several times.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Because we never actually met when I was on the.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Best Right, especially back then, do you have to be
there for.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
A while to meet Chris Harrison, It was like, you know,
day six.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I really they really sequestered me and especially back then
with Brad season, it was early days still and we
kind of I came and went and just did my thing,
and then later on we spent a lot of time together.
And I do spend a lot of time with Brad,
who actually lives here in Austin.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Now, Wait, what's he doing?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Now?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Does you regret sending me home?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
He talks about that he's still pining for you, Kelsey,
and I think.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
You ask him, I know a single. Wait, he's never
going to end up with anyone.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
We need him on Lady again.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
He is kind of kind of He's one of those
guys that I that that nut you can just never
really crack, and I've tried. He is the sweetest, most generous, giving,
kind human being. I was dating a girl here in
Austin years and years ago, and I was coming in
and he would literally leave, he was here, take my condo,
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I'm leaving. He would go stay with his brother and
he would just give me his place for weekends at
a time. And he was the only bachelor whoever sent
me a gift after the show, just to say thank you.
There was a shirt that I commented on that he owned,
and he sent me the shirt a new one, not his,
but he sent me the shirt. Was like, hey man,
I just want to say thanks. And we've been good
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friends ever since. And he's one of those guys I
wish he would find love, but I don't know. There's
something in him and in his life that he just
maybe doesn't need it, doesn't want it.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
I'm so glad you said this, Chris, because I will
tell you my bachelor story. I remember getting out of
the limo. I was very excited. I did a high kick.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Because they come in your hotel and they're like, what's
your stick?
Speaker 6 (02:50):
Here go go Dan Henny, and I was like whep.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
And so I walked up to him and there was
and I know he's your friend, so I'm going to
be kind. But like I saw him, he had a
lot of pancake makeup on, which was like it shocked
me at the time, even though I was like coming
from the dance world, so I was like all the
guys were wearing makeup, but there was like it was
like looking at Teresa Judc like there was nothing there, there.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Was nothing there. I like looked at him and he
was like a ken, I'm just ken, Like I do.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
What his heart wasn't in it.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Yeah, I knew the depth and didn't feel that connection.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
I knew from the minute I looked at him he
was not gonna end up in love with any of
us and staying with us for the rest of his life.
There was It's a very closed off personality, like lovely,
lovely man, but like.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
There's a guard there.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
And I was like, oh, And I knew the minute
I was like, Hi, I'm Kelty, Hi, I'm I don't
know what I said to him, and I walked in
and I was like, oh, fuck, what have I done?
Like I literally remember thinking that, which is probably why
I got sent home because some producer probably heard me
say I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
You were and because you went home week two.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, I made it. I made it past she rose ceremony.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Which she had the best exit interview ever. I don't
know if you've ever seen it. Oh my god, we've
watched it. It's at the Mighty Gang shows. It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
It's like, I need to bring in Meryl Street.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
It's like a Saturday Night Live skit with a few
parodies on the Bachelor, like the girl sobbing in the limbo.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
The magic of podcasting here we go listening to Kelsey
leave the Bachelor.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Oh my god.
Speaker 7 (04:28):
You know what, I really honestly wasn't surprised. I had
like the worst one on one time with Brad and
I said something this week that really offended him, and
he just never really got better. So I really wasn't surprised.
I didn't really expect much more of a conversation because
tonight's the first time I ever had a conversation with him.
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You know, he was never really pulling me aside. He
never really like took an interest in talking to me.
So I was always talking at him, but he was
never really talking back to me. And I think that
it's really hard for me because I'm a dancer, so
I'm in the entertainment business, and so talking with Roberta
and Ally, it's really difficult to sort of explain what
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life is like for someone who's in this world already
and how we can be really lonely.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Also, okay, Kelty, explain to us what we just said.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Okay, So here's the thing. I'm a very competitive person
and I don't like to lose, and so the truth
of the matter, and I talked about this in our
one of our Lady Gang.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Books that we published was that I, you.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Know, you sign up for the Bachelor and then I
think a lot of people talk about this now, but
at the time, no one talked about it. You sign
up with the Bachelor and it takes like six or
seven months for you to end up on the Bachelor.
So I had I was single, I had signed up
with my friend Christina, and I heard nothing. And then
I was dating and I had ended up meeting my
now husband, Chris, and so we had gone on like
three dates and I had gotten and I I really
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I didn't know he was my person because I'd burned
burns so many times. And I was like, well, he's
gonna disappoint me on date five, so fuck it. I'm
gonna go on the Bachelor. This is going to be
so fun and what an opportunity and like what a
crazy experience, and like, you know, and I just remember
I so for me getting there, I was like I
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had basically he sat me down at the one on
one cafe and he was like, will you be my girlfriend?
And I was like, Oh, You're gonna really regret asking
me this because I'm leaving on Tuesday to go on
the Bachelor, like.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Literally you are literally you're the people that they all
call out now that they had a boyfriend back home.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
But I didn't have a boyfriend. I was, you know,
I was dating. I actually was dating.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Another guard at the same time.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Don't know that anyway, So you know, like I was,
I was available to go on The Bachelor.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
I wasn't break. I would never break a role, as
you guys know, and so and so.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
I went on, and I just remember like being there
and it reminded me of like dance competitions and like pageants,
and like you're with all these other women and they're
so beautiful. I remember I was sitting in the limbo
and I had Emily Maynard in my limo and Michelle
Money two of like Michelle Money is like oozing sex
and I was like, I was like, holy shit, I
want to have sex with her in this limo. And
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then Emily's like the most beautiful girl you've ever seen
in your life. And I just remember feeling like I'm
such a loser. Why am I here, Like you know,
the imposter syndrome. And that's what made that show great
At the time. It was before everyone had social media
and so like you didn't know how to play the game.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
If you will, you know, and so it was just
it was.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Really crazy and so long story short is that I
just didn't want to lose. And so I remember when
I got kicked off, I was like, I'm a loser.
Like I looked around the room and I was like,
every one of these women is better than me, hotter
than me, like more.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Attractive, more lovable, more.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
And so getting kicked off it wasn't really about ever
about Brad Womack, but it was about like I'm never
gonna be picked. I'm never gonna be the person that
people are like, she's number one, she's the Emily Maynard.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
She's the best and the prettiest. So it was like
just trauma.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
And then I just trauma cried about losing and like
I'm not meant to have love and I'm like so sad.
And I was with the one feather earring and it
was like very you had said.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
We didn't listen to it when we played it. So
I'm trying to like think.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
About understands what it's like to be in the public
eye show er.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Yes, oh my god, She's like, I know you're like
being in the public eye and being you know, like
you didn't say celebrity, it's something like that, and this
business can get really lonely. And then you also said
you also said I just kept talking at him, at him,
at him, and he wasn't saying anything back, and I
think I just like offended him by how much I
was talking at him, Like.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Do you know who I think I am?
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Yes, it was a lot of that.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
When you leave week two, it's very interesting because it's
really week one because you know, quote unquote Week one
is doesn't care one night, it's it's literally one day.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
It's I was only there for three days, yeah, the.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
First episode, and then then we do the dates on
week one, which is a three day episode. Like you said,
so you really you're there for four days.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
But the other thing, the reason I want to just
I'm so glad I'm on your podcast and I can
finally come clean. The reason I talked about being in
the in the public eye or being in the business
is because that was this season they had Ali Fediatowski
and who was the guy she was dating, Roberto.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
They had them come.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
On and they had to interrogate each one of us
if we were there for the right reason. And they
were like, well, you're a dancer, you love to be
on camera, and you like to be with celebrities, so
you're probably And I was like, I just want to kick,
you know, during the rockets for Christmas and for Jesus,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Anyway, but I.
Speaker 8 (09:49):
Was like for Jesus, for Jesus, but anyway, Yeah, so
you know, and then I I you know, see, it's
like it's kind of like it's a mental game of
where you're just regurgitating all the things that like the
production told like filtered.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Into you that was wrong with you especially. I mean,
they do a very good job.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
The show was so early days back then, it really,
I mean it was I know, Brad was kind of
middle of the road. We've probably been doing it, what
five or six years, seven years maybe even by then,
but it was still early enough, like you said, as
far as social media goes, that there was a sense
of naivete and innocence to it because you didn't know
how it all went yet.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
And by the way, I didn't have a television I
was a struggling dancer. I had never seen an episode
of The Batcher. What I did go to every day
to eat a diet coke and a pop tart. Nothing
has changed is the seventy six gas station on the
corner of Beechwood and Franklin, where Christina Perry and I
ate all of our meals. And I saw US Weekly
and I saw those bitches on the cover of US Weekly,
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and I was like, the Bacher, seems like I'll go
right opportunity. And I also was starting to get into
I started to get into hosting, and I talked about
this in our book too. I started to get into
television hosting. I was like doing a web series and
I met with an agent. Some girl was like, come
meet this agent, and the agent was like, well, if
you want to be on tvf to.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Go on The Bachelor. So it was like a cammaraderie
of a lot of things.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
You know, But I've never actually seen the show, so
I didn't know how to play the game.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I would have been so much cooler. I would have
been so much cREL.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
That's what's interesting is because I knowing you now, I
can't believe you didn't play the game better. And last thing,
because you are so good at it. Even just I
know you wouldn't have ended up with Brad. Nobody did,
but you know, kind of like Michelle Money, Like I
knew Michelle Money wasn't gonna end up with Brad, but
she was phenomenal at playing the game. She's yes, speaking
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of just got married to Mike Weir. So excited for them,
so exciting. And she is one of those people I've
just adored and became very close with after the show
because of her when her dad passed away and I
helped her out with some of the butt cancer charity stuff,
and it was She's just a sweet girl. And you're right,
she's so funny, wicked, funny, and Emily made he there.
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I forgot. There was a lot of stars came out
of that season and it show.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
It was the two Ashley's the two best friend Ashley's
and Ashley.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Spy and then uh.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
And Ashley who was a bachelorette. Did they stay together?
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Oh Ashley Rosenbaum right, well she divorced now. But did
they get divorced? Yeah, yeah, Ashley and JP got divorced.
Oh they're good though, they're really good. I've speak to
both of them and and they are like co parenting
and moving on and yeah, just life happened and it
was nothing crazy, and they're they're really both wonderful people. Yeah,
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Ashley abear by the way her was her maid name,
I don't know, yah, but yeah, that was that was
one of those I married them.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
The most amazing boobs I've ever seen in my life,
Ashley Spivey in the shower in the bachelor mansion. There's
like upstairs where they have all but yea, I just
I was only there for two sleeps, so this is
what I remember. But there was like this giant kind
of on sweet bathroom, like eighties like Housewives of New
Jersey bathroom, and like you would all get ready at
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the same time, and like there was no time to
have your own bathroom time, and so I just remember
turning around, I'd be like, well, I'm definitely not gonna
win this because look at those tips.
Speaker 8 (13:13):
Wow amazing they were so beautiful.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Oh wow, that's see. Someone should have told Brad if
he's a boobman, like I'm telling.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
You, you got it.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
The amount of like disgusting hair extension. Hair that was
just like sitting in the drain was like.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Back then, it would change from time to time. In
the beginning, the bachelor would live in the mansion, and
then the women would come over and then we knew so.
But then it changed because then we're like, wait, all
the action is happening where the twenty five people are.
So then we turned it into you would come to
where the women or the men were staying, and so
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we would often rose ceremony nights, get ready up in
the girl's bathroom. Oh wow, it was a stunding. People
always ask me who is messier the guys. It's not
even close. It's not even close. Walking into a bathroom
that twenty women are sharing is horrifying.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
If you go to a bar, you know, the grossest
bathroom is the women's bathroom. It is so strange this phenomenon.
But we're disgusting humans.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Guys are grosser. When it came to the kitchen, oddly
I would not go in the women's bathroom, but I
honestly don't want to be in the guy's kitchen. Although
it just became a lot of bro powder of like
I just ate thirty nine eggs and I have forty
grams of brotan. And it was so funny that all
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the guys would just brow out talk about their workout
and how they shave each other, and because that was
the type of bro that was on the show a
lot of times. And the girls would come in and
as Kelty said, you know, they could show their boobs,
the guys would still be talking about their workout regimen.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
It's so funny.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
She's like, I'm standing here naked? Can anybody pay attention
to me?
Speaker 6 (15:08):
Literally?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Couldn't get camera time? If I begged for it.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
You would have crushed, you would. Well, you could go
on the Golden Bachelor or Keilty.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
It's not too l It's not too late if.
Speaker 6 (15:20):
Things don't work out with Chris.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Yeah, well me, Look, she cheated on Chris once to
come on the show. She could do it again. In
all seriousness, how long after the show did you did
you leave and go? I'm going back to that.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Guy I knew the Well so funny. So this is
so fucking mean.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
I think I heard about this too, But since this
is like your podcast, I feel like your people will
enjoy this story. So Chris and I were like dating
and for some reason I made him go so at
the time, I had no money, right, and they they
tell you like they give you like a list of
things you need to bring when you go on the
Bachelor and they're like, bring a bathing suit, bring this,
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and like bring you know, stuff for six weeks or
whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
And we were like, bring a down to like get
engaged in, and you're.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Like okay, okay.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
And so I actually, like one of our day dates
that I took Chris on was I went down to
Sanity Alley, which is like the wholesale alley.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
In l All.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Santi Anti Santi Alley, and Chris came with me and
we went shopping for my engagement dress. Yeah, and he
helped me pick it out.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Why you were bringing on the show.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yes, a bit. He loved me. He loved me so
much and so yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Know, so next level fed up. That's sough. Hey, come
help me pick out an engagement dress. I'm probably gonna
get engaged with somebody else in about six weeks.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Did you tell him that it was for the engagement?
Speaker 2 (16:55):
You can't remember?
Speaker 1 (16:55):
All I asked what it was?
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Yeah, this is the book, remember that book Why Men
Love Bitches?
Speaker 6 (17:03):
Yes, this would be amic but this.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Is every person.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Like a lot of guys that I dated, I was
like in love with something else or an idea of
something else, and they followed me around like puppies because
they were like, I can't have her, Like that's the
only time I've been able to get a man is
when I'm like not trying to get a man. If
I'm trying to get a man, it happens like a
Brad womec situation where I'm like, anyway, so here's the
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here's what I got home from Bachelor. And then it
was Halloween and we went as the Bachelor for Halloween,
and that's when we decided to be boyfriend and girlfriend.
I wore the yellow dress, he wore a suit, he
had a thing of row. He gave me a rose,
and we went as the Bachelor and put it on
Instagram and I was like, ladies.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Can we unpack what?
Speaker 5 (17:48):
What?
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Just?
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Okay? So you came off the Bachelor, didn't find love,
and then two weeks later you're like, hey, babe, let's
dress up like we're on the Bachelor. I almost just
left you to get married.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
He's like, okay, this is this is Chris Knight in
a nutshell. So Chris Knight has no ego. There is
absolutely nothing about the guy where he's ever trying to
prove who he is to anybody, which makes.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
Him extremely fucking cool.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
And he loves Kelty so much and he knows exactly
who she is to her core that all this crazy mania, insanity,
look at me, look at me, all of this is
rooted in one of the most genuinely wonderful humans on
planet Earth. So he just sort of sees through all
of that and is just there. He's this solid as
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a rock guy and lets her just you know, spin
out and be crazy and make weird choices, and he's
just there.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
It's so it's actually pretty beautiful.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Oh wait, sorry, Kelsey, was the yellow dress the dress
you were supposed to be engaged in?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Yeah, well he did pick it out, so he must
have liked it.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
No, I don't have it anywhere, guys. It was terrible,
like a ten dollars dress from it was. It was
like a prom dress that someone would wear anyway, it was.
It was terrible. And then, by the way, I found
out that if you actually get uneducaged on the show,
they give you.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
A really good dress.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Of course, we put you in a dress room to
bring your own dress because by then your.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Fall Chris Harrison, you did this to me.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
By then you're our hero and we need you to
look a certain way. Although there was one season I
won't say which one, but one of the finalists had
been portrayed as the villain the whole season and in
rhymes with Courtney, and so we were in we're in Switzerland.
I think we're in Zermatt.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Oh, my god, in the gloves.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
So the gloves and the black cape.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Yes, is that what you were to get engaged?
Speaker 9 (19:44):
Ig?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
You just dressed her up like Cruella Deville.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
I remember that. He's like that was on purpose. They
they dressed her up in this black cape, black gloves
because she had been portrayed as the villain that was
been Flantic, another guy who just got married by the way,
Ben Flannic, and so it has been season with Courtney
and she was obviously the villain that had snuck over
and they went skinny dipping and all that stuff, and
so they put her in a black cape and gloves
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on purpose.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Who did he pick?
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Cordon?
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Oh? Are they together?
Speaker 1 (20:15):
No? No, no, no, that didn't last either. It's safe
to say on the Batchel, it's safe to say on
The Bachelor, none of them worked. There's there's Sean Low,
like we just hung our hat on Sean Loh for
like thirty years.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
It's as bacchi a relationship as you and Zema it is.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
This really is. It was the long con as we
had everybody over on Friday night, all the Bachelor people,
which really it was really interesting, Kelty. It became this
cathartic event that it was Lauren's idea, one hundred percent
Lauren's idea. Another brilliant Lauren Zima move. She's like, let's
just have everybody over because I think if we just
see everybody for the first time at the wedding, it's
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going to be weird, it'll be performative. So everybody came
to the house here in Austin the night before the wedding,
and everybody came. Sean Loh couldn't make it. He was
with the kids, and then Alan Gail, one of our producers,
but everyone else made it, which was really cool and oh,
we know and yes and so. But you know what
was interesting is I didn't expect it to be so meaningful.
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But also Alana and I were talking on the phone
afterwards and he said, you know what was great about
that moment? And I haven't brought this up with anybody yet,
but y'all made me just think about it. It'll never
happen again. There will never be another moment in Bachelor
history where Trista Wrenn to Tasha. That span of nineteen
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years will ever be together again. And I wish some
more of our friends and cast members could have made it,
because not everybody that was invited could make it in.
But there was this group, and I thought about it later,
I'm like, you're right, like Trista was the lightning in
a bottle that started it, and then Tasha was kind
of my last show. And to have all of that
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together in one night, there's nobody there's no connective tissue
that'll ever make that happen again. There's no reason for
it to ever happen again. And honestly, no one likes
the show enough to make that happen again. And so
that it was a once, it was kind of an
interesting exclamation point on it all that I didn't I
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didn't think about it till later or probably good because
I would have been a mess.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
As like a massive Bachelor fan, I would have loved
to be a fly on the wall and seen the
conversations that were going on.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Well, it was a really cool night. I mean, I
guess Kelty should have been there, you know, being such
an integral part of the show for so long. And
Brad Wilmack, by the way, was he had someone very
near and dear to him passed away, so he couldn't
be here as well. But there's a few other people
I wish could have been there. But it was still
really beautiful and it was a lot. It was funny.
(22:47):
It was kind of funny how light it was. There
was I was expecting it to be heavier and more dramatic,
and you know, there was the Caitlin and Jason thing,
and there was you know, Ben and Jojo, like all
these people have dated or were on each other's show,
and it's very incestuous, it's very you know, awkward in
a lot of ways. But it was really cool to
how light it was and how everybody there was no
(23:09):
phones and cameras out for the most part, and everybody
just got along and told stories and we raised a
glass and did some shots and we made funny toasts
and but there was a moment and I said, I
mentioned this briefly on a podcast, how the girls were
sitting out by my pool and they were kind of
sitting all on this one chair, and I wanted to
bring everybody in so I could kind of say something
and make a toast. And I walked out and it
(23:30):
was almost like I went, tink tink, ladies, if I
could all have everybody inside, please? You know, I was
just like, oh my god, did I just do that?
But as Becca knows, I literally produced and hosted my
own wedding with Lauren, and I even I even made
a joke to it, because I'm like, yeah, I'm going
to host this wedding because well, who else is going
to do it? And yeah, so Becca should I? So okay, lady,
(23:53):
should I have made this joke? I ran this by
Lauren and it felt I think they the two lay
would have thought this is funny. But I didn't want
anybody else to think I was being mean because I
love them. But I was going to say, you know
who else is going to host this wedding? And I
was going to say, Caitlyn and Tasha, don't don't say anything.
(24:15):
Oh yeah, because obviously they came in and hosted the
show briefly after I left. But you know, Lauren's like,
if you think at all it could be misconstrued and
taken His mean, you don't ever want to do that,
and I was like, you're right, you're right. So I
made the joke without mentioning anybody.
Speaker 6 (24:28):
Well, I mean, I think it would have hit.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
I think it would have hit.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
It very funny.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
But I think the fact that the two of them
kind of got didn't. I mean, we saw Caitlyn shortly
after she did the first season and she was like, oh,
we're not coming back.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
We sucked, like she was kind of bummed about it.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
There was a lot of retalks in their way that
were not their fault. I don't know if they ever,
you know, could have been, but they definitely didn't have
a chance.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
Yeah, so maybe that would have been the only reason.
But you know, those two are good sports.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
I think everyone would have been very What.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
I think is so BEAUTIFU Chris is like, you know this,
this is your life's work. Like I'm so sorry to
say this to you, but like you're gonna be the
Bachelor's Chris Harrison forever. Like I know you do amazing
charity work and you have all your companies and you
and Lauren are like doing your life now, which is great.
And like, will you come back to TV in some way?
Maybe will TV even exist when you decide to do that?
Who knows, But like it's it's it's lovely to me
(25:22):
to think about all of those people being there to
celebrate you and for you to have that moment because
I think, you know TV hosts there there are so
few television hosts that really make an impact, Like there's
people hosting TV all the time, but as far as
like a cultural impact, I do think that you really
created something and you were the face of something, and
(25:43):
you were a big part of all these people's lives.
Like if you think about the amount of money all
these people have made, the careers they've had, the people
they've met through Bachelor through other people and married other people,
and the children, and the the amount of revenue for
people like me, and you know, like it was such
a it is such a conglomerate and such a powerful
thing that I'm really glad that everyone got together and
(26:04):
it was positive for you as a way to celebrate
your life's work because I know that was incredibly meaningful.
And the other thing is I think having Caitlin and
Tasia like that was obviously a very awkward situation, and
Caitlyn had been on our podcast and talked about how
awkward it was with you guys, and I know you've
made up since, which is so fabulous, But it's like,
I think it's like kind of going back to your
high school re union where like all the stupid shit
(26:25):
that went down and like Becka peeing in your person
high school or whatever she did. You know, like it's
like all of that's kind of forgotten, like all the
shit that people said about each other in the press,
and all the bad relationships and.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
All like it.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
It kind of is like a nice I don't know,
it's like putting a bow on that era.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
And I love that for you.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Oh, first of all, thank you. And I think what
it was, kilty and you just actually brought it to
my mind, is it was the goodbye that I never
got to have, because you know, things don't end well.
When things end it's a breakup, they don't end well,
and you usually don't get to choose how it goes.
And that's not how I would have chosen to leave
the show after twenty years. But it was the goodbye
(27:03):
that I finally I think I got where I wanted
to have many of the people that I loved and
gotten to be good friends with over the years kind
of give them a hug and say thank you to
them and let them kind of finally be able to
say say their piece to me. And a lot of
them really did. Like Wells came up to me and
said the most amazing thing at our wedding about what
(27:24):
I meant to him, and I think he spoke a
little bit about it in the toast as well that
Becca heard, and Ben Higgins the same thing. And you know,
I got involved in a lot of these people's lives
and help them negotiate deals and work through life and situations,
and they still call and I love being that person
for them, and so yeah, it was it was that
not that I'm done with these people, but I am
definitely done with that chapter in my life. And so
(27:45):
it was a good way to put a pin in
it and put a bow on it and say goodbye
to it the way I wanted to and control that
situation because I didn't exactly get to control the last time.
Which is what's interesting is there is a lot of
psychology to it that I probably haven't into that you
just made me think about now I'm gonna go cry good.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
That's our goal.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Speaking of there's a couple things I want to do
before we go. But one thing I have to talk
about the Lady Gang because you guys have been such
a force. You got into this I think in twenty
fifteen when it was if there was podcasts, we're in
the black and white phase. It was twenty fifteen, I mean,
things were just hell. I think Glee was still on
(28:38):
TV right, and so it was such. This show was
such on the forefront of podcasting and all that, and
you guys have become so much more and have meant
so much to everybody. So first of all, congratulations on
the Lady Gang. Congratulations on your success. Where does it
go now? What's next for Lady Gang?
Speaker 5 (29:00):
That's a tough question. Well, thank you for saying that.
We feel like the old ladies in this business. And
so you know, we're still going strong, and our community
really kind of keeps us going. Every time we meet
up and we have to record something, something does happen.
And you know this, you worked on a lightning in
a bottle situation. The three of us, we think we've
run out of things to say, and we still now
(29:22):
in twenty three have things to say, and our community
kind of keeps that spark live for us. We really
want to get back to the community this year. I
think the last couple of years, we've written two books,
We've gone on live on tours with the Live show,
we've done clothing lines. It's been a dream and really
magical and the opportunities we are so grateful for. But
(29:42):
we've sort of missed those, like grassroots moments with the
girls who've listened since twenty fifteen. So we're cooking up
some ideas of how to do that. But I said
I'll never write another fucking book again because it was
the most miserable experience of my life and I.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Did it horrible task. It is of all because I
wrote a book that's I think it's right above me.
Um check it out, The Perfect Letter. It's a romance
novel twenty fifteen. By the way, Oh why didn't I
come on The Lady Gang and talk about it? Damn it.
But there's still times it is such an antiquated world.
(30:18):
It is so weird that that the publishing industry is
like has not moved out of nineteen twenty six.
Speaker 6 (30:26):
It's so crazy.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
I mean, we had we made the list, the New
York Times Bestseller List with the first book, and we
were so grateful and we weren't busted our asses, while
Kelsey did because she's an evil genius.
Speaker 6 (30:37):
And then the second book, it was so crazy.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
Well, I mean, I'm saying with the getting on the list,
getting on the list work. And so then the second
book comes out, we're on our tour promoting it, and
we find out that we did not make the list
that year because there was one independent bookseller, which we
were trying so hard to tell girls, go to the
independent bookseller, support them, support small business trying to do
(31:01):
the right thing.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Let me tell buy on Amazon, buy from stall businesses.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
And we find out that the bulk of our orders
that went to this independent bookseller, they did not report
the numbers.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
So what beck is talking about and this is really
interesting and I found this out too the hard way,
that the New York Times Bestseller List is essentially bullshit.
It is an arbitrary, made up list that they can
just put you on or not. And sometimes if you
are a big author, if you're a first time author,
(31:32):
they just won't put you on because they want you
to earn it and there are books and this is
the way they get around it, where it's complete bullshit,
where they'll just say, oh, there were too many book
sales in Minnesota, we're going to just not count those.
And so I went through with my book The Perfect Letter,
and my publisher called and said congratulations. Because every Tuesday,
(31:54):
the record stops and they put the list out. So
they called me and said, look, we have a couple
of authors in your same world of fiction whatever. You're
going to be on the list. You'll be like number
twelve to fifteen. We're not sure which, but you'll be
twelve to fifteen. I said, great, great, that's awesome. He's like, yeah,
first time author, that's fantastic. The list comes out not
on it, and they went and did the forensics and
(32:15):
they're like, ah, they just decided not to count because
I did a book tour. I you know, I did
Good Morning America. I did the book tour. And so
you're at the mall, you're doing all this stuff, and
what they'll do is if you sold five hundred books,
they'll just be like, eh, no, we're not we're not
down it there. We're not counting, and you're just like
this is so disheartening. This is complete bullshit. It's all
(32:35):
bullshit your whole life. You think that it's like, oh
he sold five books, they sold four books. The number,
you know, five is better than four that they're on
the list. No, it's all arbitrary and it's all made up.
Welcome to the world of literal.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Like that.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
It doesn't make it fake.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Nothing is real.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
But Chris, I think what you were saying about, like
about Lady Gang is and I think this is very
fitting for you as well. I think when we form
these communities, the people that have the community and the
listeners that have stuck around, they have definitely disagreed with
us and disagreed with things that we've said or done
at some point in the past nine years, you know.
(33:17):
And our girl is she's strong enough. Like listen, some
of them burnt our merch and like a hail Mary,
and it was like very dramatic. I think some of
those people were like you and they never came back.
But our community, like they know us well enough that
sometimes they'll be like, hey, when you said this, it
really pissed me off, and here's why. And I think
what keeps the Lady In going is that we get
(33:38):
letters every single week of people that are like, you
changed my life and here's why you made me leave
this bad relationship.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
You made me ask for I moved.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
To Michigan to take a new job because you guys
talked about you know, whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
And then we also get.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
Letters that people are like, hey, fuck you, this was
really shitty for what you said. And we learn from
that and we continually like evolve and learn through and
struggle through womanhood because we are imperfect. And so I
think Lady Gang is a place for like us to
come out and be funny and make jokes and have
real conversations but also like try to figure it out
life well.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
And y'all are so relatable. The three of you are
very relatable. You're very different, are we, And I think
you're very relatable.
Speaker 6 (34:15):
Something maybe not you kelty.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Some people like to dress up in their Daisy dukes
and have activity Sunday. By the way, the daisy duke
would be a good costume. But y'all are very relatable.
Speaker 6 (34:28):
For Chris Night and everybody growe.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Oh my gosh, dinnim panties and boots. Are you kidding me?
But the growing old you mentioned and first of all,
y'all aren't old, but your audience has been able to
grow with you and go through being young, being married,
having kids, going through like all these stages. And that's
what I think. Honestly, the Bachelor of people were able
to grow with me as well, and the show evolved
(34:52):
and some of our audience evolved. But then the new
people came in as well, and I for one that
and this is what I love and respect about the
three of you the most. I'm definitely not going to
agree with everything the three of you say, but I
don't want to live in an echo chamber. I think
that is one of the craziest things about the world
today is that many people want to just stay in
your little vacuum and hear your thoughts echoed back to you.
(35:16):
So you're only going to hear people who agree with you,
And what a minuscule, narrow way of looking at the world.
And if you're not being pushed, if you're not hearing
things you don't agree with, then what's the point. And
so I like the fact that you guys push the
envelope and you're not afraid because, like you said, you're
going to make mistakes. Life is sloppy. Love is sloppy.
(35:37):
The world is sloppy, but we all got to live
in it, and we all got to coexist and we
all got to move forward. So let's figure it out together.
And that's what y'all are great at.
Speaker 6 (35:45):
Thank you, Thank you, Chris Harrison.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
And with that said, a little lightning round. Producer Kendall
came up with this, and it's actually good because we
are all you know, you know now that Jack and
I are, and the family here, we're all married. And
so since all four of us are married, some quick
questions do well and some of you don't even sleep
with your significant other? But do you sleep butt to
(36:09):
butt or face to face ever?
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Oh god, but touching feet.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
I am so disgusted by stinky bed breath. Like I
put a barricade of pillows in between me and Jared
so I don't have to smell his breath if he
turns on my side. So I'm a very butt to
butt person. I don't want you near me.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
I don't like to I don't mind cuddling at first,
but as soon as we're going to sleep, I'm like okay, Like, yeah,
there needs to be the continental of divide and we
go to your side. But Lauren does sleep at it
weird of course, just like her life, it's all over
the place. This is a Kelty delt about the Delt
on this subject a little bit. But how many times
(36:50):
a week should you have sex when you're married?
Speaker 6 (36:55):
I think two is a good number.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
That's solid, especially with young kids. Well done?
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Yeah, I think one. I think you.
Speaker 9 (37:03):
I think one and and one one memorable moment a
week okay that he leaves.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
You thinking wow, wow, that's so creepy. I would say,
like too ambitiously and one realistically.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Yeah, I like that. That's good. That's good. What do
you fight most about? And maybe this goes into also, yeah,
what's the hardest thing adjusting to being married?
Speaker 9 (37:37):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (37:38):
We have Zach and I. I fight about tone.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
He has a very no nonsense tone, and if I'm
feeling extra sensitive, it really like I'll be like, what
did you mean by that?
Speaker 6 (37:48):
And He's like exactly what I said.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
I think I'm like that too. I think I'm not
animated enough and I'm very calm and just very even keeled.
I'm not a yeller. I never yell. It's sometimes I
think Lauren wants because she's more theatrical and explosive and
wants to fight, and I'm like, I just I don't
have that in me.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Oh my god, Chris.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
My Chris is the same way where I'm like I
would say like tone is a good like overarching thing,
but it's like when I'm like, let's go, like it's
time to go, we gotta go somewhere. We're gonna be excited, now,
we're gonna be sad, now, we're gonna be quiet now,
Like I need you to match my tone, And like
Chris is always at a chill and so like I
have this story of like I got in this car
(38:30):
accident and he comes down and is like I'm looking
at his face as I'm getting wheeled into the ambulance
and he's super calm.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
It's like he could literally be at a lake.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
It's so serene in his mind. I'm like, I need
you to be upset. I am crushed. My hand is
flopping over, like I need you to like be afraid,
look at the adrenals, like it's time for you to
have an emotion.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
You know.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
That's what Yeah, that's what we fight about.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
It's like I'm like, when we have five minutes and
we have to be somewhere and you're like, I.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
I'll put oil in the car, like I hate know.
We are on Miss.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Lauren me one time. She's like, why aren't you crying
about this? Why aren't you upset? And I'm like, oh
my god, do you want me to fake it? Like
I don't that's not my emotion right now. Sorry. Yes,
although I cried like a baby at our wedding and
I thought, so we did it Napa and I ball.
I mean, it was horrible at NAPA, and but I
knew every time I read my Valves and Napa, and
(39:25):
they were different in a lot of ways, and especially
the one in Napa, I spoke a lot about her
dad and got a little deeper that I thought wouldn't
be as appropriate in Austin, when I was kind of
playing to the masses and I thought, Okay, I've done
it once. Austin's going to be easier. I think I'll
get through it. And then I got to the family
part again and I lost it and I got choked up,
and I'm like, damn it. I thought I could get
(39:47):
through this. But so yeah, that the emotion thing is
definitely one of those I think Lauren would say the same,
but for her, I would say timely is she has
never met a clock, There is no time. Time is
whatever she makes of it, and I will be waiting
in the car. I just that is something that we
(40:08):
we She is definitely aware of it now and we're
working on.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
It as long as there steps.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Forward, Yes, steps forward. But it's just, you know, I'm like,
I just don't understand you. You knew the dinner started
at seven, you knew we had to be there. It's
not arbitrary. It's not just something where you just kind
of haphazardly show up like we have a set time.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Was she late for her wedding?
Speaker 1 (40:34):
No, Like that's the thing is. And Kelty can say
speak to this too in entertainment tonight. She'll never be
late to work. She'll never be late to something that's
super important. I said, well, just consider this important because
what that really says to me is now you just
don't give a shit, right, so hard and so this
this came up, this is the last one Lauren, for
(40:57):
the first time in a relationship. It's something that was great.
I'm breaking. She ate a hot dog in front of me.
We were at the at a football game. I don't
know why we've never eaten a hot dog together in
five and a half years. We just haven't, or maybe
I didn't notice, but she came with a hot dog
and she and I was going to take a bite
and she only had ketchup on it, and I thought,
honest to god, we were going to break up right
then and there. I thought our marriage was over. And
(41:20):
I'm like, I don't even know this person. I don't
even know who you are. Have you ever have we
ever had a meal together? So it made me question everything,
and it shook me. What is it? Is there anything
that your husband's eat or cook or do or you're just.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Like, no, oh, I have mine. It's toenails.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
I had to go to therapy before I married Chris
Knight because I was like, man, feet are so disgusting.
And Chris is sixty six, so he's got a large
foot and the toes are just as lengthy as the
rest of them, and that gives you a long toenail
bed and as I'm describing it, I want to barf.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
And so I looked.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
I remember looking at him like a week but two
weeks before I got married, and I was like, am
I going to be able to look at those toes
on every vacation, every night in my house?
Speaker 2 (42:02):
And then I had to like get good with the toes.
So it's like, I don't know. Sometimes they catch you
off guards.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
So have you be honest? Have you done things where
you buy a gift and you're like, hey, here's these
house slippers. You're gonna love these. You should wear them
around the house.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
Ahole, don't wear a slipper. He won't wear a slipper.
And he won't wear a sweatpant. It's so annoying.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
Won't wear sweatpants.
Speaker 5 (42:20):
What is he He doesn't relax, He's like wearing So
they have this thing at work.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
It's like dress pants and hoodies is like what every
one in the music business wears. So he just hangs
out and dress pants and hoodies all the time. And
I'm in my Lady Gangs slack suit like a.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Slack And then you can't come home and sit on
the bed in your in your day clothes, though, you
gotta change.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
It's disgusting, and he does. It's just it's you know what,
we're breaking up. Get him on the podcast.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
This has been the long Dawn of this podcast is
to get Kelty back and do a relationship show with her.
Wow Becker Jack.
Speaker 5 (43:00):
While Zach's eating in general could not be more opposite
of my own. So it's just he's an alien to me.
He does not eat cold foods, so he's never put
a bite of salad in his mouth. Not Ever, he
does not like anything with mayonnaise. I like extra mayonnaise
on everything. So it's just it floors me. When we
go to any restaurant. He's like, I'll have a burger
(43:23):
meat and cheese only, and if a lettuce makes it
in between those, the bun and the meat, it is.
Speaker 6 (43:29):
Not okay for him. Oh like lettuce, it's like tasteless.
Just get some greens into your body. So yeah, that
is something.
Speaker 5 (43:35):
And now my son is showing signs that he is
the same, and it is rich.
Speaker 6 (43:41):
It is triggering me.
Speaker 5 (43:43):
I put out vegetables constantly that end up in a
trash can. But apparently kids have to see certain vegetables
four hundred times, four hundred times before they actually eat them.
Speaker 6 (43:53):
That's like a fact.
Speaker 5 (43:54):
They've done all these studies with like how you have
to continue to introduce the stupid foods to your kids.
They're like, it can take four hundred times.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
I mean, I just started eating vegetables this year, Becka,
So yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
I know.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
I know.
Speaker 5 (44:06):
It's surrounded by non vegetable eaters except Jack drink.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
A green.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Lauren got me on that, and I know she's sponsored
by him, but they don't sponsor me. So I'll just
say this anyway. It's like Jack, it's been a game saver.
It's like my gut, my stomach, no heartburd It's amazing.
I love that stuff.
Speaker 6 (44:27):
I wonder if I could give it to my toddler.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Yeah, why not slip it in stuff they won't know mine.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
I can't think of anything for Jared, but like I'm
the weird one. I cannot stand garlic, and I know
it's like blasphemy, Like I'm the only person in the
world that doesn't like garlic. And when Jared and I
started dating, it was like something that he had to
learn how to get over because he loves garlic and
like wants extra garlic and things. And I'm also a sharer,
like we're not ordering separate things, like we're ordering two
(44:55):
things and we're sharing everything. So I have been the
asshole in that situ.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Luckily garlic and raw onions. Yeah, don't beat either one
of us.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
Really, Oh sticks with people.
Speaker 5 (45:08):
Hear a raw onion is a bummer, Like it's just
you need to live alone to eat row.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
Yeah, they just like it.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
Like sits in your mouth. I'm glad I'm not alone.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
You're not alone because you're part of the Lady Gang.
Jack Becca Kelty. They make up the Lady Gang and uh,
I've been a gosh almost ten years. You guys are
about to be celebrating.
Speaker 4 (45:29):
Soon, gonna be We're gonna be nine on December tenth.
Speaker 6 (45:32):
Wow, that's us.
Speaker 4 (45:34):
We made our own day, International Lady Gang Day, to
celebrate our own birth.
Speaker 6 (45:37):
We're giving away a lot of free shit Instagram.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
And look, you'll offend somebody and they'll burn it. It'll
be great.
Speaker 4 (45:44):
Yeah, dollar diamond diamond bracelet we're giving away on International
Lady Gang Day, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (45:51):
Really, that's good. That's going to be uh a part
of the giving.
Speaker 4 (45:54):
Like twenty thousand dollars with the giveaways from December first
to tenth on our Instagram at the Lady Gang. So
if you're not a fan, follow, get some shit and
then unfollow.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
You know what I mean, come in for the free shit,
but stay for the Lady Gang.
Speaker 5 (46:10):
No.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
I know y'all have such a loyal following, and it
really is a testament to the three of you and
how you all. Y'all are so open and honest. And
that's the thing. If you're going to do this, if
you're going to do the podcast and you're going to
be in this genre, you got to be honest. And
the three of you have been nothing but honest and
people can tell like and I think that's one of
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the things again that resonated when I was hosting. It's
like people can see, they can read through the bullshit
and they can see it and smell it and they
don't love it. And so if they feel you're being genuine,
even if they don't agree with everything you're saying, they're
going to come back because they know they're getting the
real deal.
Speaker 6 (46:44):
Yep, good, bad and ugly. Thanks for having.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
Us, ladies. Thank you so much. I've been wanting to
do this. I'm sorry Lauren isn't here, so we're gonna
have to do this again because I love it. And honestly,
if we had done this with Lauren, it would have
been a whole different show.
Speaker 5 (46:57):
Well, come on the Lady Gang with Lauren. We'll have
a fun time, Harris, we do that.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Also, can you come.
Speaker 4 (47:03):
On Lady Gang with Lauren? And also can we arrange
a phone call to Brad Willmack?
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Yes, okay, so here's what and here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (47:11):
Let's do it super secret where you're like, Hey, I'm
doing my podcast. Can you do a call in but
pretend I'm not there, and then we'll connect the phone
and then you can be like, do you remember in
your season that was that girl Kelty.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
Way he's guilty? What if he doesn't remember?
Speaker 4 (47:24):
Is that going to be just Oh, that'll be so funny.
Speaker 3 (47:29):
I can't wait for this very awkward moment.
Speaker 6 (47:31):
Well, you're coming on. Whether Brad makes the phone.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
Lauren and I are coming on, because that'll that'll be
an amazing show. And I know she's very jealous. She's
not here today because she loves the three of you.
Y'all have been very supportive of her, and likewise, I
know she loves the three of you. So thank you
to the Lady Gang. Thank you for the time and
go check out the Lady Gang, and thank you for
joining us today. And I love talking to each and
every one of you. Love doing this because of days
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like this, and we will do it again next time
because we have a lot more to talk about. Thanks
for listening. Follow us on Instagram at the most Dramatic
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This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.
Chris Harrison here in the home office in Austin, Texas,
and I got to get back to this conversation with
the Lady Gang. These amazing women who I have known
for years, Kelty Knight, Becka Tobin, Jack Vannick, three incredible
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women who were all married, but in different places in
their life. They have different expertises, but they have had
this successful podcast since twenty fifteen. And this is part
two of my conversation with the Lady Gang. So let's
get back into it. When I remember meeting Kelty, it
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was not on the show. For those that don't know,
Kelty was on The Bachelor. Brad Womack season of The Bachelor. Yeah,
don't blink, you're gonna miss it. But I don't remember
you from that show. I remember you from the entertainment
news business. That's where I feel like I met you,
and I think we had interviewed together several times.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Because we never actually met when I was on the.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Best Right, especially back then, do you have to be
there for.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
A while to meet Chris Harrison, It was like, you know,
day six.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
I really they really sequestered me and especially back then
with Brad season, it was early days still and we
kind of I came and went and just did my thing,
and then later on we spent a lot of time together.
And I do spend a lot of time with Brad,
who actually lives here in Austin.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Now, Wait, what's he doing?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Now?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Does you regret sending me home?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
He talks about that he's still pining for you, Kelsey,
and I think.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
You ask him, I know a single. Wait, he's never
going to end up with anyone.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
We need him on Lady again.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
He is kind of kind of He's one of those
guys that I that that nut you can just never
really crack, and I've tried. He is the sweetest, most generous, giving,
kind human being. I was dating a girl here in
Austin years and years ago, and I was coming in
and he would literally leave, he was here, take my condo,
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I'm leaving. He would go stay with his brother and
he would just give me his place for weekends at
a time. And he was the only bachelor whoever sent
me a gift after the show, just to say thank you.
There was a shirt that I commented on that he owned,
and he sent me the shirt a new one, not his,
but he sent me the shirt. Was like, hey man,
I just want to say thanks. And we've been good
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friends ever since. And he's one of those guys I
wish he would find love, but I don't know. There's
something in him and in his life that he just
maybe doesn't need it, doesn't want it.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
I'm so glad you said this, Chris, because I will
tell you my bachelor story. I remember getting out of
the limo. I was very excited. I did a high kick.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Because they come in your hotel and they're like, what's
your stick?
Speaker 6 (02:50):
Here go go Dan Henny, and I was like whep.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
And so I walked up to him and there was
and I know he's your friend, so I'm going to
be kind. But like I saw him, he had a
lot of pancake makeup on, which was like it shocked
me at the time, even though I was like coming
from the dance world, so I was like all the
guys were wearing makeup, but there was like it was
like looking at Teresa Judc like there was nothing there, there.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Was nothing there. I like looked at him and he
was like a ken, I'm just ken, Like I do.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
What his heart wasn't in it.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Yeah, I knew the depth and didn't feel that connection.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
I knew from the minute I looked at him he
was not gonna end up in love with any of
us and staying with us for the rest of his life.
There was It's a very closed off personality, like lovely,
lovely man, but like.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
There's a guard there.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
And I was like, oh, And I knew the minute
I was like, Hi, I'm Kelty, Hi, I'm I don't
know what I said to him, and I walked in
and I was like, oh, fuck, what have I done?
Like I literally remember thinking that, which is probably why
I got sent home because some producer probably heard me
say I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
You were and because you went home week two.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, I made it. I made it past she rose ceremony.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Which she had the best exit interview ever. I don't
know if you've ever seen it. Oh my god, we've
watched it. It's at the Mighty Gang shows. It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
It's like, I need to bring in Meryl Street.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
It's like a Saturday Night Live skit with a few
parodies on the Bachelor, like the girl sobbing in the limbo.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
The magic of podcasting here we go listening to Kelsey
leave the Bachelor.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Oh my god.
Speaker 7 (04:28):
You know what, I really honestly wasn't surprised. I had
like the worst one on one time with Brad and
I said something this week that really offended him, and
he just never really got better. So I really wasn't surprised.
I didn't really expect much more of a conversation because
tonight's the first time I ever had a conversation with him.
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You know, he was never really pulling me aside. He
never really like took an interest in talking to me.
So I was always talking at him, but he was
never really talking back to me. And I think that
it's really hard for me because I'm a dancer, so
I'm in the entertainment business, and so talking with Roberta
and Ally, it's really difficult to sort of explain what
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life is like for someone who's in this world already
and how we can be really lonely.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Also, okay, Kelty, explain to us what we just said.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Okay, So here's the thing. I'm a very competitive person
and I don't like to lose, and so the truth
of the matter, and I talked about this in our
one of our Lady Gang.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Books that we published was that I, you.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Know, you sign up for the Bachelor and then I
think a lot of people talk about this now, but
at the time, no one talked about it. You sign
up with the Bachelor and it takes like six or
seven months for you to end up on the Bachelor.
So I had I was single, I had signed up
with my friend Christina, and I heard nothing. And then
I was dating and I had ended up meeting my
now husband, Chris, and so we had gone on like
three dates and I had gotten and I I really
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I didn't know he was my person because I'd burned
burns so many times. And I was like, well, he's
gonna disappoint me on date five, so fuck it. I'm
gonna go on the Bachelor. This is going to be
so fun and what an opportunity and like what a
crazy experience, and like, you know, and I just remember
I so for me getting there, I was like I
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had basically he sat me down at the one on
one cafe and he was like, will you be my girlfriend?
And I was like, Oh, You're gonna really regret asking
me this because I'm leaving on Tuesday to go on
the Bachelor, like.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Literally you are literally you're the people that they all
call out now that they had a boyfriend back home.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
But I didn't have a boyfriend. I was, you know,
I was dating. I actually was dating.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Another guard at the same time.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Don't know that anyway, So you know, like I was,
I was available to go on The Bachelor.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
I wasn't break. I would never break a role, as
you guys know, and so and so.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
I went on, and I just remember like being there
and it reminded me of like dance competitions and like pageants,
and like you're with all these other women and they're
so beautiful. I remember I was sitting in the limbo
and I had Emily Maynard in my limo and Michelle
Money two of like Michelle Money is like oozing sex
and I was like, I was like, holy shit, I
want to have sex with her in this limo. And
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then Emily's like the most beautiful girl you've ever seen
in your life. And I just remember feeling like I'm
such a loser. Why am I here, Like you know,
the imposter syndrome. And that's what made that show great
At the time. It was before everyone had social media
and so like you didn't know how to play the game.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
If you will, you know, and so it was just
it was.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Really crazy and so long story short is that I
just didn't want to lose. And so I remember when
I got kicked off, I was like, I'm a loser.
Like I looked around the room and I was like,
every one of these women is better than me, hotter
than me, like more.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Attractive, more lovable, more.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
And so getting kicked off it wasn't really about ever
about Brad Womack, but it was about like I'm never
gonna be picked. I'm never gonna be the person that
people are like, she's number one, she's the Emily Maynard.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
She's the best and the prettiest. So it was like
just trauma.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
And then I just trauma cried about losing and like
I'm not meant to have love and I'm like so sad.
And I was with the one feather earring and it
was like very you had said.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
We didn't listen to it when we played it. So
I'm trying to like think.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
About understands what it's like to be in the public
eye show er.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Yes, oh my god, She's like, I know you're like
being in the public eye and being you know, like
you didn't say celebrity, it's something like that, and this
business can get really lonely. And then you also said
you also said I just kept talking at him, at him,
at him, and he wasn't saying anything back, and I
think I just like offended him by how much I
was talking at him, Like.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Do you know who I think I am?
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Yes, it was a lot of that.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
When you leave week two, it's very interesting because it's
really week one because you know, quote unquote Week one
is doesn't care one night, it's it's literally one day.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
It's I was only there for three days, yeah, the.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
First episode, and then then we do the dates on
week one, which is a three day episode. Like you said,
so you really you're there for four days.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
But the other thing, the reason I want to just
I'm so glad I'm on your podcast and I can
finally come clean. The reason I talked about being in
the in the public eye or being in the business
is because that was this season they had Ali Fediatowski
and who was the guy she was dating, Roberto.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
They had them come.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
On and they had to interrogate each one of us
if we were there for the right reason. And they
were like, well, you're a dancer, you love to be
on camera, and you like to be with celebrities, so
you're probably And I was like, I just want to kick,
you know, during the rockets for Christmas and for Jesus,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Anyway, but I.
Speaker 8 (09:49):
Was like for Jesus, for Jesus, but anyway, Yeah, so
you know, and then I I you know, see, it's
like it's kind of like it's a mental game of
where you're just regurgitating all the things that like the
production told like filtered.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Into you that was wrong with you especially. I mean,
they do a very good job.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
The show was so early days back then, it really,
I mean it was I know, Brad was kind of
middle of the road. We've probably been doing it, what
five or six years, seven years maybe even by then,
but it was still early enough, like you said, as
far as social media goes, that there was a sense
of naivete and innocence to it because you didn't know
how it all went yet.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
And by the way, I didn't have a television I
was a struggling dancer. I had never seen an episode
of The Batcher. What I did go to every day
to eat a diet coke and a pop tart. Nothing
has changed is the seventy six gas station on the
corner of Beechwood and Franklin, where Christina Perry and I
ate all of our meals. And I saw US Weekly
and I saw those bitches on the cover of US Weekly,
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and I was like, the Bacher, seems like I'll go
right opportunity. And I also was starting to get into
I started to get into hosting, and I talked about
this in our book too. I started to get into
television hosting. I was like doing a web series and
I met with an agent. Some girl was like, come
meet this agent, and the agent was like, well, if
you want to be on tvf to.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Go on The Bachelor. So it was like a cammaraderie
of a lot of things.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
You know, But I've never actually seen the show, so
I didn't know how to play the game.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I would have been so much cooler. I would have
been so much cREL.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
That's what's interesting is because I knowing you now, I
can't believe you didn't play the game better. And last thing,
because you are so good at it. Even just I
know you wouldn't have ended up with Brad. Nobody did,
but you know, kind of like Michelle Money, Like I
knew Michelle Money wasn't gonna end up with Brad, but
she was phenomenal at playing the game. She's yes, speaking
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of just got married to Mike Weir. So excited for them,
so exciting. And she is one of those people I've
just adored and became very close with after the show
because of her when her dad passed away and I
helped her out with some of the butt cancer charity stuff,
and it was She's just a sweet girl. And you're right,
she's so funny, wicked, funny, and Emily made he there.
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I forgot. There was a lot of stars came out
of that season and it show.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
It was the two Ashley's the two best friend Ashley's
and Ashley.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Spy and then uh.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
And Ashley who was a bachelorette. Did they stay together?
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Oh Ashley Rosenbaum right, well she divorced now. But did
they get divorced? Yeah, yeah, Ashley and JP got divorced.
Oh they're good though, they're really good. I've speak to
both of them and and they are like co parenting
and moving on and yeah, just life happened and it
was nothing crazy, and they're they're really both wonderful people. Yeah,
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Ashley abear by the way her was her maid name,
I don't know, yah, but yeah, that was that was
one of those I married them.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
The most amazing boobs I've ever seen in my life,
Ashley Spivey in the shower in the bachelor mansion. There's
like upstairs where they have all but yea, I just
I was only there for two sleeps, so this is
what I remember. But there was like this giant kind
of on sweet bathroom, like eighties like Housewives of New
Jersey bathroom, and like you would all get ready at
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the same time, and like there was no time to
have your own bathroom time, and so I just remember
turning around, I'd be like, well, I'm definitely not gonna
win this because look at those tips.
Speaker 8 (13:13):
Wow amazing they were so beautiful.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Oh wow, that's see. Someone should have told Brad if
he's a boobman, like I'm telling.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
You, you got it.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
The amount of like disgusting hair extension. Hair that was
just like sitting in the drain was like.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Back then, it would change from time to time. In
the beginning, the bachelor would live in the mansion, and
then the women would come over and then we knew so.
But then it changed because then we're like, wait, all
the action is happening where the twenty five people are.
So then we turned it into you would come to
where the women or the men were staying, and so
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we would often rose ceremony nights, get ready up in
the girl's bathroom. Oh wow, it was a stunding. People
always ask me who is messier the guys. It's not
even close. It's not even close. Walking into a bathroom
that twenty women are sharing is horrifying.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
If you go to a bar, you know, the grossest
bathroom is the women's bathroom. It is so strange this phenomenon.
But we're disgusting humans.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Guys are grosser. When it came to the kitchen, oddly
I would not go in the women's bathroom, but I
honestly don't want to be in the guy's kitchen. Although
it just became a lot of bro powder of like
I just ate thirty nine eggs and I have forty
grams of brotan. And it was so funny that all
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the guys would just brow out talk about their workout
and how they shave each other, and because that was
the type of bro that was on the show a
lot of times. And the girls would come in and
as Kelty said, you know, they could show their boobs,
the guys would still be talking about their workout regimen.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
It's so funny.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
She's like, I'm standing here naked? Can anybody pay attention
to me?
Speaker 6 (15:08):
Literally?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Couldn't get camera time? If I begged for it.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
You would have crushed, you would. Well, you could go
on the Golden Bachelor or Keilty.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
It's not too l It's not too late if.
Speaker 6 (15:20):
Things don't work out with Chris.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Yeah, well me, Look, she cheated on Chris once to
come on the show. She could do it again. In
all seriousness, how long after the show did you did
you leave and go? I'm going back to that.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Guy I knew the Well so funny. So this is
so fucking mean.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
I think I heard about this too, But since this
is like your podcast, I feel like your people will
enjoy this story. So Chris and I were like dating
and for some reason I made him go so at
the time, I had no money, right, and they they
tell you like they give you like a list of
things you need to bring when you go on the
Bachelor and they're like, bring a bathing suit, bring this,
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and like bring you know, stuff for six weeks or
whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
And we were like, bring a down to like get
engaged in, and you're.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Like okay, okay.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
And so I actually, like one of our day dates
that I took Chris on was I went down to
Sanity Alley, which is like the wholesale alley.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
In l All.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Santi Anti Santi Alley, and Chris came with me and
we went shopping for my engagement dress. Yeah, and he
helped me pick it out.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Why you were bringing on the show.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yes, a bit. He loved me. He loved me so
much and so yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Know, so next level fed up. That's sough. Hey, come
help me pick out an engagement dress. I'm probably gonna
get engaged with somebody else in about six weeks.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Did you tell him that it was for the engagement?
Speaker 2 (16:55):
You can't remember?
Speaker 1 (16:55):
All I asked what it was?
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Yeah, this is the book, remember that book Why Men
Love Bitches?
Speaker 6 (17:03):
Yes, this would be amic but this.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Is every person.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Like a lot of guys that I dated, I was
like in love with something else or an idea of
something else, and they followed me around like puppies because
they were like, I can't have her, Like that's the
only time I've been able to get a man is
when I'm like not trying to get a man. If
I'm trying to get a man, it happens like a
Brad womec situation where I'm like, anyway, so here's the
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here's what I got home from Bachelor. And then it
was Halloween and we went as the Bachelor for Halloween,
and that's when we decided to be boyfriend and girlfriend.
I wore the yellow dress, he wore a suit, he
had a thing of row. He gave me a rose,
and we went as the Bachelor and put it on
Instagram and I was like, ladies.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Can we unpack what?
Speaker 5 (17:48):
What?
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Just?
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Okay? So you came off the Bachelor, didn't find love,
and then two weeks later you're like, hey, babe, let's
dress up like we're on the Bachelor. I almost just
left you to get married.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
He's like, okay, this is this is Chris Knight in
a nutshell. So Chris Knight has no ego. There is
absolutely nothing about the guy where he's ever trying to
prove who he is to anybody, which makes.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
Him extremely fucking cool.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
And he loves Kelty so much and he knows exactly
who she is to her core that all this crazy mania, insanity,
look at me, look at me, all of this is
rooted in one of the most genuinely wonderful humans on
planet Earth. So he just sort of sees through all
of that and is just there. He's this solid as
(18:39):
a rock guy and lets her just you know, spin
out and be crazy and make weird choices, and he's
just there.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
It's so it's actually pretty beautiful.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Oh wait, sorry, Kelsey, was the yellow dress the dress
you were supposed to be engaged in?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Yeah, well he did pick it out, so he must
have liked it.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
No, I don't have it anywhere, guys. It was terrible,
like a ten dollars dress from it was. It was
like a prom dress that someone would wear anyway, it was.
It was terrible. And then, by the way, I found
out that if you actually get uneducaged on the show,
they give you.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
A really good dress.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Of course, we put you in a dress room to
bring your own dress because by then your.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Fall Chris Harrison, you did this to me.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
By then you're our hero and we need you to
look a certain way. Although there was one season I
won't say which one, but one of the finalists had
been portrayed as the villain the whole season and in
rhymes with Courtney, and so we were in we're in Switzerland.
I think we're in Zermatt.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Oh, my god, in the gloves.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
So the gloves and the black cape.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Yes, is that what you were to get engaged?
Speaker 9 (19:44):
Ig?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
You just dressed her up like Cruella Deville.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
I remember that. He's like that was on purpose. They
they dressed her up in this black cape, black gloves
because she had been portrayed as the villain that was
been Flantic, another guy who just got married by the way,
Ben Flannic, and so it has been season with Courtney
and she was obviously the villain that had snuck over
and they went skinny dipping and all that stuff, and
so they put her in a black cape and gloves
(20:09):
on purpose.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Who did he pick?
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Cordon?
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Oh? Are they together?
Speaker 1 (20:15):
No? No, no, no, that didn't last either. It's safe
to say on the Batchel, it's safe to say on
The Bachelor, none of them worked. There's there's Sean Low,
like we just hung our hat on Sean Loh for
like thirty years.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
It's as bacchi a relationship as you and Zema it is.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
This really is. It was the long con as we
had everybody over on Friday night, all the Bachelor people,
which really it was really interesting, Kelty. It became this
cathartic event that it was Lauren's idea, one hundred percent
Lauren's idea. Another brilliant Lauren Zima move. She's like, let's
just have everybody over because I think if we just
see everybody for the first time at the wedding, it's
(20:52):
going to be weird, it'll be performative. So everybody came
to the house here in Austin the night before the wedding,
and everybody came. Sean Loh couldn't make it. He was
with the kids, and then Alan Gail, one of our producers,
but everyone else made it, which was really cool and oh,
we know and yes and so. But you know what
was interesting is I didn't expect it to be so meaningful.
(21:13):
But also Alana and I were talking on the phone
afterwards and he said, you know what was great about
that moment? And I haven't brought this up with anybody yet,
but y'all made me just think about it. It'll never
happen again. There will never be another moment in Bachelor
history where Trista Wrenn to Tasha. That span of nineteen
(21:34):
years will ever be together again. And I wish some
more of our friends and cast members could have made it,
because not everybody that was invited could make it in.
But there was this group, and I thought about it later,
I'm like, you're right, like Trista was the lightning in
a bottle that started it, and then Tasha was kind
of my last show. And to have all of that
(21:55):
together in one night, there's nobody there's no connective tissue
that'll ever make that happen again. There's no reason for
it to ever happen again. And honestly, no one likes
the show enough to make that happen again. And so
that it was a once, it was kind of an
interesting exclamation point on it all that I didn't I
(22:15):
didn't think about it till later or probably good because
I would have been a mess.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
As like a massive Bachelor fan, I would have loved
to be a fly on the wall and seen the
conversations that were going on.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Well, it was a really cool night. I mean, I
guess Kelty should have been there, you know, being such
an integral part of the show for so long. And
Brad Wilmack, by the way, was he had someone very
near and dear to him passed away, so he couldn't
be here as well. But there's a few other people
I wish could have been there. But it was still
really beautiful and it was a lot. It was funny.
(22:47):
It was kind of funny how light it was. There
was I was expecting it to be heavier and more dramatic,
and you know, there was the Caitlin and Jason thing,
and there was you know, Ben and Jojo, like all
these people have dated or were on each other's show,
and it's very incestuous, it's very you know, awkward in
a lot of ways. But it was really cool to
how light it was and how everybody there was no
(23:09):
phones and cameras out for the most part, and everybody
just got along and told stories and we raised a
glass and did some shots and we made funny toasts
and but there was a moment and I said, I
mentioned this briefly on a podcast, how the girls were
sitting out by my pool and they were kind of
sitting all on this one chair, and I wanted to
bring everybody in so I could kind of say something
and make a toast. And I walked out and it
(23:30):
was almost like I went, tink tink, ladies, if I
could all have everybody inside, please? You know, I was
just like, oh my god, did I just do that?
But as Becca knows, I literally produced and hosted my
own wedding with Lauren, and I even I even made
a joke to it, because I'm like, yeah, I'm going
to host this wedding because well, who else is going
to do it? And yeah, so Becca should I? So okay, lady,
(23:53):
should I have made this joke? I ran this by
Lauren and it felt I think they the two lay
would have thought this is funny. But I didn't want
anybody else to think I was being mean because I
love them. But I was going to say, you know
who else is going to host this wedding? And I
was going to say, Caitlyn and Tasha, don't don't say anything.
(24:15):
Oh yeah, because obviously they came in and hosted the
show briefly after I left. But you know, Lauren's like,
if you think at all it could be misconstrued and
taken His mean, you don't ever want to do that,
and I was like, you're right, you're right. So I
made the joke without mentioning anybody.
Speaker 6 (24:28):
Well, I mean, I think it would have hit.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
I think it would have hit.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
It very funny.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
But I think the fact that the two of them
kind of got didn't. I mean, we saw Caitlyn shortly
after she did the first season and she was like, oh,
we're not coming back.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
We sucked, like she was kind of bummed about it.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
There was a lot of retalks in their way that
were not their fault. I don't know if they ever,
you know, could have been, but they definitely didn't have
a chance.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
Yeah, so maybe that would have been the only reason.
But you know, those two are good sports.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
I think everyone would have been very What.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
I think is so BEAUTIFU Chris is like, you know this,
this is your life's work. Like I'm so sorry to
say this to you, but like you're gonna be the
Bachelor's Chris Harrison forever. Like I know you do amazing
charity work and you have all your companies and you
and Lauren are like doing your life now, which is great.
And like, will you come back to TV in some way?
Maybe will TV even exist when you decide to do that?
Who knows, But like it's it's it's lovely to me
(25:22):
to think about all of those people being there to
celebrate you and for you to have that moment because
I think, you know TV hosts there there are so
few television hosts that really make an impact, Like there's
people hosting TV all the time, but as far as
like a cultural impact, I do think that you really
created something and you were the face of something, and
(25:43):
you were a big part of all these people's lives.
Like if you think about the amount of money all
these people have made, the careers they've had, the people
they've met through Bachelor through other people and married other people,
and the children, and the the amount of revenue for
people like me, and you know, like it was such
a it is such a conglomerate and such a powerful
thing that I'm really glad that everyone got together and
(26:04):
it was positive for you as a way to celebrate
your life's work because I know that was incredibly meaningful.
And the other thing is I think having Caitlin and
Tasia like that was obviously a very awkward situation, and
Caitlyn had been on our podcast and talked about how
awkward it was with you guys, and I know you've
made up since, which is so fabulous, But it's like,
I think it's like kind of going back to your
high school re union where like all the stupid shit
(26:25):
that went down and like Becka peeing in your person
high school or whatever she did. You know, like it's
like all of that's kind of forgotten, like all the
shit that people said about each other in the press,
and all the bad relationships and.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
All like it.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
It kind of is like a nice I don't know,
it's like putting a bow on that era.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
And I love that for you.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Oh, first of all, thank you. And I think what
it was, kilty and you just actually brought it to
my mind, is it was the goodbye that I never
got to have, because you know, things don't end well.
When things end it's a breakup, they don't end well,
and you usually don't get to choose how it goes.
And that's not how I would have chosen to leave
the show after twenty years. But it was the goodbye
(27:03):
that I finally I think I got where I wanted
to have many of the people that I loved and
gotten to be good friends with over the years kind
of give them a hug and say thank you to
them and let them kind of finally be able to
say say their piece to me. And a lot of
them really did. Like Wells came up to me and
said the most amazing thing at our wedding about what
(27:24):
I meant to him, and I think he spoke a
little bit about it in the toast as well that
Becca heard, and Ben Higgins the same thing. And you know,
I got involved in a lot of these people's lives
and help them negotiate deals and work through life and situations,
and they still call and I love being that person
for them, and so yeah, it was it was that
not that I'm done with these people, but I am
definitely done with that chapter in my life. And so
(27:45):
it was a good way to put a pin in
it and put a bow on it and say goodbye
to it the way I wanted to and control that
situation because I didn't exactly get to control the last time.
Which is what's interesting is there is a lot of
psychology to it that I probably haven't into that you
just made me think about now I'm gonna go cry good.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
That's our goal.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Speaking of there's a couple things I want to do
before we go. But one thing I have to talk
about the Lady Gang because you guys have been such
a force. You got into this I think in twenty
fifteen when it was if there was podcasts, we're in
the black and white phase. It was twenty fifteen, I mean,
things were just hell. I think Glee was still on
(28:38):
TV right, and so it was such. This show was
such on the forefront of podcasting and all that, and
you guys have become so much more and have meant
so much to everybody. So first of all, congratulations on
the Lady Gang. Congratulations on your success. Where does it
go now? What's next for Lady Gang?
Speaker 5 (29:00):
That's a tough question. Well, thank you for saying that.
We feel like the old ladies in this business. And
so you know, we're still going strong, and our community
really kind of keeps us going. Every time we meet
up and we have to record something, something does happen.
And you know this, you worked on a lightning in
a bottle situation. The three of us, we think we've
run out of things to say, and we still now
(29:22):
in twenty three have things to say, and our community
kind of keeps that spark live for us. We really
want to get back to the community this year. I
think the last couple of years, we've written two books,
We've gone on live on tours with the Live show,
we've done clothing lines. It's been a dream and really
magical and the opportunities we are so grateful for. But
(29:42):
we've sort of missed those, like grassroots moments with the
girls who've listened since twenty fifteen. So we're cooking up
some ideas of how to do that. But I said
I'll never write another fucking book again because it was
the most miserable experience of my life and I.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Did it horrible task. It is of all because I
wrote a book that's I think it's right above me.
Um check it out, The Perfect Letter. It's a romance
novel twenty fifteen. By the way, Oh why didn't I
come on The Lady Gang and talk about it? Damn it.
But there's still times it is such an antiquated world.
(30:18):
It is so weird that that the publishing industry is
like has not moved out of nineteen twenty six.
Speaker 6 (30:26):
It's so crazy.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
I mean, we had we made the list, the New
York Times Bestseller List with the first book, and we
were so grateful and we weren't busted our asses, while
Kelsey did because she's an evil genius.
Speaker 6 (30:37):
And then the second book, it was so crazy.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
Well, I mean, I'm saying with the getting on the list,
getting on the list work. And so then the second
book comes out, we're on our tour promoting it, and
we find out that we did not make the list
that year because there was one independent bookseller, which we
were trying so hard to tell girls, go to the
independent bookseller, support them, support small business trying to do
(31:01):
the right thing.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Let me tell buy on Amazon, buy from stall businesses.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
And we find out that the bulk of our orders
that went to this independent bookseller, they did not report
the numbers.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
So what beck is talking about and this is really
interesting and I found this out too the hard way,
that the New York Times Bestseller List is essentially bullshit.
It is an arbitrary, made up list that they can
just put you on or not. And sometimes if you
are a big author, if you're a first time author,
(31:32):
they just won't put you on because they want you
to earn it and there are books and this is
the way they get around it, where it's complete bullshit,
where they'll just say, oh, there were too many book
sales in Minnesota, we're going to just not count those.
And so I went through with my book The Perfect Letter,
and my publisher called and said congratulations. Because every Tuesday,
(31:54):
the record stops and they put the list out. So
they called me and said, look, we have a couple
of authors in your same world of fiction whatever. You're
going to be on the list. You'll be like number
twelve to fifteen. We're not sure which, but you'll be
twelve to fifteen. I said, great, great, that's awesome. He's like, yeah,
first time author, that's fantastic. The list comes out not
on it, and they went and did the forensics and
(32:15):
they're like, ah, they just decided not to count because
I did a book tour. I you know, I did
Good Morning America. I did the book tour. And so
you're at the mall, you're doing all this stuff, and
what they'll do is if you sold five hundred books,
they'll just be like, eh, no, we're not we're not
down it there. We're not counting, and you're just like
this is so disheartening. This is complete bullshit. It's all
(32:35):
bullshit your whole life. You think that it's like, oh
he sold five books, they sold four books. The number,
you know, five is better than four that they're on
the list. No, it's all arbitrary and it's all made up.
Welcome to the world of literal.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Like that.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
It doesn't make it fake.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Nothing is real.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
But Chris, I think what you were saying about, like
about Lady Gang is and I think this is very
fitting for you as well. I think when we form
these communities, the people that have the community and the
listeners that have stuck around, they have definitely disagreed with
us and disagreed with things that we've said or done
at some point in the past nine years, you know.
(33:17):
And our girl is she's strong enough. Like listen, some
of them burnt our merch and like a hail Mary,
and it was like very dramatic. I think some of
those people were like you and they never came back.
But our community, like they know us well enough that
sometimes they'll be like, hey, when you said this, it
really pissed me off, and here's why. And I think
what keeps the Lady In going is that we get
(33:38):
letters every single week of people that are like, you
changed my life and here's why you made me leave
this bad relationship.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
You made me ask for I moved.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
To Michigan to take a new job because you guys
talked about you know, whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
And then we also get.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
Letters that people are like, hey, fuck you, this was
really shitty for what you said. And we learn from
that and we continually like evolve and learn through and
struggle through womanhood because we are imperfect. And so I
think Lady Gang is a place for like us to
come out and be funny and make jokes and have
real conversations but also like try to figure it out
life well.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
And y'all are so relatable. The three of you are
very relatable. You're very different, are we, And I think
you're very relatable.
Speaker 6 (34:15):
Something maybe not you kelty.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Some people like to dress up in their Daisy dukes
and have activity Sunday. By the way, the daisy duke
would be a good costume. But y'all are very relatable.
Speaker 6 (34:28):
For Chris Night and everybody growe.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Oh my gosh, dinnim panties and boots. Are you kidding me?
But the growing old you mentioned and first of all,
y'all aren't old, but your audience has been able to
grow with you and go through being young, being married,
having kids, going through like all these stages. And that's
what I think. Honestly, the Bachelor of people were able
to grow with me as well, and the show evolved
(34:52):
and some of our audience evolved. But then the new
people came in as well, and I for one that
and this is what I love and respect about the
three of you the most. I'm definitely not going to
agree with everything the three of you say, but I
don't want to live in an echo chamber. I think
that is one of the craziest things about the world
today is that many people want to just stay in
your little vacuum and hear your thoughts echoed back to you.
(35:16):
So you're only going to hear people who agree with you,
And what a minuscule, narrow way of looking at the world.
And if you're not being pushed, if you're not hearing
things you don't agree with, then what's the point. And
so I like the fact that you guys push the
envelope and you're not afraid because, like you said, you're
going to make mistakes. Life is sloppy. Love is sloppy.
(35:37):
The world is sloppy, but we all got to live
in it, and we all got to coexist and we
all got to move forward. So let's figure it out together.
And that's what y'all are great at.
Speaker 6 (35:45):
Thank you, Thank you, Chris Harrison.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
And with that said, a little lightning round. Producer Kendall
came up with this, and it's actually good because we
are all you know, you know now that Jack and
I are, and the family here, we're all married. And
so since all four of us are married, some quick
questions do well and some of you don't even sleep
with your significant other? But do you sleep butt to
(36:09):
butt or face to face ever?
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Oh god, but touching feet.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
I am so disgusted by stinky bed breath. Like I
put a barricade of pillows in between me and Jared
so I don't have to smell his breath if he
turns on my side. So I'm a very butt to
butt person. I don't want you near me.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
I don't like to I don't mind cuddling at first,
but as soon as we're going to sleep, I'm like okay, Like, yeah,
there needs to be the continental of divide and we
go to your side. But Lauren does sleep at it
weird of course, just like her life, it's all over
the place. This is a Kelty delt about the Delt
on this subject a little bit. But how many times
(36:50):
a week should you have sex when you're married?
Speaker 6 (36:55):
I think two is a good number.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
That's solid, especially with young kids. Well done?
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Yeah, I think one. I think you.
Speaker 9 (37:03):
I think one and and one one memorable moment a
week okay that he leaves.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
You thinking wow, wow, that's so creepy. I would say,
like too ambitiously and one realistically.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Yeah, I like that. That's good. That's good. What do
you fight most about? And maybe this goes into also, yeah,
what's the hardest thing adjusting to being married?
Speaker 9 (37:37):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (37:38):
We have Zach and I. I fight about tone.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
He has a very no nonsense tone, and if I'm
feeling extra sensitive, it really like I'll be like, what
did you mean by that?
Speaker 6 (37:48):
And He's like exactly what I said.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
I think I'm like that too. I think I'm not
animated enough and I'm very calm and just very even keeled.
I'm not a yeller. I never yell. It's sometimes I
think Lauren wants because she's more theatrical and explosive and
wants to fight, and I'm like, I just I don't
have that in me.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
Oh my god, Chris.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
My Chris is the same way where I'm like I
would say like tone is a good like overarching thing,
but it's like when I'm like, let's go, like it's
time to go, we gotta go somewhere. We're gonna be excited, now,
we're gonna be sad, now, we're gonna be quiet now,
Like I need you to match my tone, And like
Chris is always at a chill and so like I
have this story of like I got in this car
(38:30):
accident and he comes down and is like I'm looking
at his face as I'm getting wheeled into the ambulance
and he's super calm.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
It's like he could literally be at a lake.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
It's so serene in his mind. I'm like, I need
you to be upset. I am crushed. My hand is
flopping over, like I need you to like be afraid,
look at the adrenals, like it's time for you to
have an emotion.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
You know.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
That's what Yeah, that's what we fight about.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
It's like I'm like, when we have five minutes and
we have to be somewhere and you're like, I.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
I'll put oil in the car, like I hate know.
We are on Miss.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Lauren me one time. She's like, why aren't you crying
about this? Why aren't you upset? And I'm like, oh
my god, do you want me to fake it? Like
I don't that's not my emotion right now. Sorry. Yes,
although I cried like a baby at our wedding and
I thought, so we did it Napa and I ball.
I mean, it was horrible at NAPA, and but I
knew every time I read my Valves and Napa, and
(39:25):
they were different in a lot of ways, and especially
the one in Napa, I spoke a lot about her
dad and got a little deeper that I thought wouldn't
be as appropriate in Austin, when I was kind of
playing to the masses and I thought, Okay, I've done
it once. Austin's going to be easier. I think I'll
get through it. And then I got to the family
part again and I lost it and I got choked up,
and I'm like, damn it. I thought I could get
(39:47):
through this. But so yeah, that the emotion thing is
definitely one of those I think Lauren would say the same,
but for her, I would say timely is she has
never met a clock, There is no time. Time is
whatever she makes of it, and I will be waiting
in the car. I just that is something that we
(40:08):
we She is definitely aware of it now and we're
working on.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
It as long as there steps.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Forward, Yes, steps forward. But it's just, you know, I'm like,
I just don't understand you. You knew the dinner started
at seven, you knew we had to be there. It's
not arbitrary. It's not just something where you just kind
of haphazardly show up like we have a set time.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Was she late for her wedding?
Speaker 1 (40:34):
No, Like that's the thing is. And Kelty can say
speak to this too in entertainment tonight. She'll never be
late to work. She'll never be late to something that's
super important. I said, well, just consider this important because
what that really says to me is now you just
don't give a shit, right, so hard and so this
this came up, this is the last one Lauren, for
(40:57):
the first time in a relationship. It's something that was great.
I'm breaking. She ate a hot dog in front of me.
We were at the at a football game. I don't
know why we've never eaten a hot dog together in
five and a half years. We just haven't, or maybe
I didn't notice, but she came with a hot dog
and she and I was going to take a bite
and she only had ketchup on it, and I thought,
honest to god, we were going to break up right
then and there. I thought our marriage was over. And
(41:20):
I'm like, I don't even know this person. I don't
even know who you are. Have you ever have we
ever had a meal together? So it made me question everything,
and it shook me. What is it? Is there anything
that your husband's eat or cook or do or you're just.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Like, no, oh, I have mine. It's toenails.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
I had to go to therapy before I married Chris
Knight because I was like, man, feet are so disgusting.
And Chris is sixty six, so he's got a large
foot and the toes are just as lengthy as the
rest of them, and that gives you a long toenail
bed and as I'm describing it, I want to barf.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
And so I looked.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
I remember looking at him like a week but two
weeks before I got married, and I was like, am
I going to be able to look at those toes
on every vacation, every night in my house?
Speaker 2 (42:02):
And then I had to like get good with the toes.
So it's like, I don't know. Sometimes they catch you
off guards.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
So have you be honest? Have you done things where
you buy a gift and you're like, hey, here's these
house slippers. You're gonna love these. You should wear them
around the house.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
Ahole, don't wear a slipper. He won't wear a slipper.
And he won't wear a sweatpant. It's so annoying.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
Won't wear sweatpants.
Speaker 5 (42:20):
What is he He doesn't relax, He's like wearing So
they have this thing at work.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
It's like dress pants and hoodies is like what every
one in the music business wears. So he just hangs
out and dress pants and hoodies all the time. And
I'm in my Lady Gangs slack suit like a.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Slack And then you can't come home and sit on
the bed in your in your day clothes, though, you
gotta change.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
It's disgusting, and he does. It's just it's you know what,
we're breaking up. Get him on the podcast.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
This has been the long Dawn of this podcast is
to get Kelty back and do a relationship show with her.
Wow Becker Jack.
Speaker 5 (43:00):
While Zach's eating in general could not be more opposite
of my own. So it's just he's an alien to me.
He does not eat cold foods, so he's never put
a bite of salad in his mouth. Not Ever, he
does not like anything with mayonnaise. I like extra mayonnaise
on everything. So it's just it floors me. When we
go to any restaurant. He's like, I'll have a burger
(43:23):
meat and cheese only, and if a lettuce makes it
in between those, the bun and the meat, it is.
Speaker 6 (43:29):
Not okay for him. Oh like lettuce, it's like tasteless.
Just get some greens into your body. So yeah, that
is something.
Speaker 5 (43:35):
And now my son is showing signs that he is
the same, and it is rich.
Speaker 6 (43:41):
It is triggering me.
Speaker 5 (43:43):
I put out vegetables constantly that end up in a
trash can. But apparently kids have to see certain vegetables
four hundred times, four hundred times before they actually eat them.
Speaker 6 (43:53):
That's like a fact.
Speaker 5 (43:54):
They've done all these studies with like how you have
to continue to introduce the stupid foods to your kids.
They're like, it can take four hundred times.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
I mean, I just started eating vegetables this year, Becka,
So yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
I know.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
I know.
Speaker 5 (44:06):
It's surrounded by non vegetable eaters except Jack drink.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
A green.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
Lauren got me on that, and I know she's sponsored
by him, but they don't sponsor me. So I'll just
say this anyway. It's like Jack, it's been a game saver.
It's like my gut, my stomach, no heartburd It's amazing.
I love that stuff.
Speaker 6 (44:27):
I wonder if I could give it to my toddler.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Yeah, why not slip it in stuff they won't know mine.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
I can't think of anything for Jared, but like I'm
the weird one. I cannot stand garlic, and I know
it's like blasphemy, Like I'm the only person in the
world that doesn't like garlic. And when Jared and I
started dating, it was like something that he had to
learn how to get over because he loves garlic and
like wants extra garlic and things. And I'm also a sharer,
like we're not ordering separate things, like we're ordering two
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things and we're sharing everything. So I have been the
asshole in that situ.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Luckily garlic and raw onions. Yeah, don't beat either one
of us.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
Really, Oh sticks with people.
Speaker 5 (45:08):
Hear a raw onion is a bummer, Like it's just
you need to live alone to eat row.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
Yeah, they just like it.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
Like sits in your mouth. I'm glad I'm not alone.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
You're not alone because you're part of the Lady Gang.
Jack Becca Kelty. They make up the Lady Gang and uh,
I've been a gosh almost ten years. You guys are
about to be celebrating.
Speaker 4 (45:29):
Soon, gonna be We're gonna be nine on December tenth.
Speaker 6 (45:32):
Wow, that's us.
Speaker 4 (45:34):
We made our own day, International Lady Gang Day, to
celebrate our own birth.
Speaker 6 (45:37):
We're giving away a lot of free shit Instagram.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
And look, you'll offend somebody and they'll burn it. It'll
be great.
Speaker 4 (45:44):
Yeah, dollar diamond diamond bracelet we're giving away on International
Lady Gang Day, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (45:51):
Really, that's good. That's going to be uh a part
of the giving.
Speaker 4 (45:54):
Like twenty thousand dollars with the giveaways from December first
to tenth on our Instagram at the Lady Gang. So
if you're not a fan, follow, get some shit and
then unfollow.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
You know what I mean, come in for the free shit,
but stay for the Lady Gang.
Speaker 5 (46:10):
No.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
I know y'all have such a loyal following, and it
really is a testament to the three of you and
how you all. Y'all are so open and honest. And
that's the thing. If you're going to do this, if
you're going to do the podcast and you're going to
be in this genre, you got to be honest. And
the three of you have been nothing but honest and
people can tell like and I think that's one of
(46:30):
the things again that resonated when I was hosting. It's
like people can see, they can read through the bullshit
and they can see it and smell it and they
don't love it. And so if they feel you're being genuine,
even if they don't agree with everything you're saying, they're
going to come back because they know they're getting the
real deal.
Speaker 6 (46:44):
Yep, good, bad and ugly. Thanks for having.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
Us, ladies. Thank you so much. I've been wanting to
do this. I'm sorry Lauren isn't here, so we're gonna
have to do this again because I love it. And honestly,
if we had done this with Lauren, it would have
been a whole different show.
Speaker 5 (46:57):
Well, come on the Lady Gang with Lauren. We'll have
a fun time, Harris, we do that.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Also, can you come.
Speaker 4 (47:03):
On Lady Gang with Lauren? And also can we arrange
a phone call to Brad Willmack?
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Yes, okay, so here's what and here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (47:11):
Let's do it super secret where you're like, Hey, I'm
doing my podcast. Can you do a call in but
pretend I'm not there, and then we'll connect the phone
and then you can be like, do you remember in
your season that was that girl Kelty.
Speaker 1 (47:21):
Way he's guilty? What if he doesn't remember?
Speaker 4 (47:24):
Is that going to be just Oh, that'll be so funny.
Speaker 3 (47:29):
I can't wait for this very awkward moment.
Speaker 6 (47:31):
Well, you're coming on. Whether Brad makes the phone.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
Lauren and I are coming on, because that'll that'll be
an amazing show. And I know she's very jealous. She's
not here today because she loves the three of you.
Y'all have been very supportive of her, and likewise, I
know she loves the three of you. So thank you
to the Lady Gang. Thank you for the time and
go check out the Lady Gang, and thank you for
joining us today. And I love talking to each and
every one of you. Love doing this because of days
(47:56):
like this, and we will do it again next time
because we have a lot more to talk about. Thanks
for listening. Follow us on Instagram at the most Dramatic
pod Ever, and make sure to write us a review
and leave us five stars. I'll talk to you next time.
Hosts And Creators
Lauren Zima
Chris Harrison
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