#392 Oversharing In Front of Adam Duritz, Comedian Tricks, Sebastian Maniscalco is Truly a GOAT

Nikki spills the tea about 'what happened to Anya?' Don't worry; she will be back to say hi tomorrow. Taylor is in the studio for the hang, while Nikki recounts her time at the Bob Saget Scleroderma Fundraiser. She talks about the comedians she caught up with and the once-in-a-lifetime opportunity she had to introduce The Counting Crows. Maybe she gushed a little too hard over Adam Duritz, but it was totally worth it. They discuss which art form is more vulnerable—singing or performing comedy. For Nikki, it's making an effort. She also talks about how blown away she was by Sebastian Maniscalco's performance in Atlantic City and how inspired she feels by it.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
The nick A Gliser podcastser here's Nicky. Hello here, I
am welcome to the show. It's the Nicki Glazer Podcast.
I'm here in Saint Louis, Missouri, joined by Taylor McGraw.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Up in the studio, up in this studio.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
Brian is here in Los Angeles.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Noah is in Arizona. People have wondered what happened to Anya,
and I'm sorry I never announced it. She just was
a regular obviously on the show for a while, and
then I couldn't afford because we don't have a budget
for guests and it's coming out of my pocket. And
she felt her worth was more than I could give,

(00:47):
and I totally agreed with her. But then Taylor stepped
in and said, I have no worth. I'll take whatever
you can get. And fine, no, I'm just gonna be
back to Mark. She just, you know, it was something
that she was like, you know, I either want this
or you.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Know, just put her foot down. But the drama, there
were all these comments like drama, where's Anya? What happened
to Anya? Oh right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
No, she's still my best friend. She's still a part
of the show. There's nothing like It's not like the
Andrew situation where it's like, you, guys, we just need
some space. We're gonna talk about it again at another time.
It's there's no drama behind it. It is literally like, hey,
I like doing the show, but can I get paid more?
And I was like, I don't have any more money

(01:32):
to give you from the show, and I don't really
want to pay out on my own pocket more because
not that you she doesn't have value to me. It's
just like, you know, I only make so much on
this show. And she was she understood that. I understood her,
and I literally said to her, do you want to
give less?

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Just give less?

Speaker 4 (01:49):
I was like it half assed.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
I was like, she's so cute because she was like
I can't do a bad job, you know, I can't
phone it in. But I think I agree with that too,
Like you either get she's like an all or nothing
kind of person, so she'll come back to the show
when she wants to make a little extra cash or
just because she wants to. But uh, that's the reason.
And don't you guys go off and comment like Nikki's

(02:12):
so cheap. Not that anyone would say that, but maybe
I would think that, like, well, you're you have money,
just pay her more. She's already an employee for me
on another thing, Like it's just it's just too much
and it's none of your business to be honest with you,
and not that you even asked.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
But it's I'm sharing all of this.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
I mean you do like to behind it.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Really it's too but it's just like otherwise I'm gonna say,
like what else could I say? I don't know, Like,
but there is no bad there's no bad blood.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
We are still ill.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
Friend, gonna want to hear what actually happened? You got
the Diamond Players Club, will.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Really give you the how much I was paying her.
We'll tell you the amount and go.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
What We have a transcript the conversation that Anya Nikki
had when.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Talking about, Yeah, what are we going to do for
our next player Diamond Players episode?

Speaker 3 (03:10):
We Yeah, I want to try to do something.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
I know I'm trying to collect more and then I
the problem is not telling them on here because I
truly don't have anything to hide except the things I
don't want to hide are the things I hide now
are just like name dropping things or like got me
want to know them all just stumm subscribe stuff that
I wouldn't care if that person said it about me,
But like that person might get hear it back to

(03:35):
because like I've said before.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
Yeah, like a dictionary on one of those stands in
a library.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
I always turn it to dick or penis.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
You do, yeah, Taylor works in libraries. You turn it
to penis. Yeah, I turn it to penis or like
anal or something. But maybe you're looking up.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
The word analysis, Like do you highlight the word anal
or do you put like the uh not?

Speaker 5 (03:59):
No, I don't do like the Ramses did, where the
dictionary was open and pointed. The corner was pointed to insect.
What in the Ramses dictionary usually your John Bennet died.
My god, it's a true.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
Wait, they have it and stuff. No, I've looked everywhere
the baby Okay.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
I usually rip out the page that says and bring
it home with me.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Jack.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
You're like, I don't want anyone knowing what this is
besides me. Wait, Taylor, I'm trying to say Taylor's hair.
You have just a little fly's hair. Oh that's nice.
I thought you were like you got to ask her
about her hair? What's going on with it?

Speaker 2 (04:40):
When are you going to fix that ship.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
I know I saw it, and I honestly there was
nothing in me that was like fix it.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
I just like I think, I just.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Love you always, like have told me if there's like
a little smudge or something, just to tell you, just.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
So I was passing them on. Yeah, no, I appreciate
you were good looking out.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
I was not thinking, but I did see it, and
that makes me question my whole being. Do you ever
like catch yourself being called on something and you're like, oh, yeah,
I totally did.

Speaker 5 (05:11):
It's like a night and day or like sure, it's
like you're go into a fugue and you're like I
was doing this wrong the whole time, or no, like you.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Know that you did something, but in the moment you
didn't know it was wrong.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yes, I just did that. I can't talk about it
on here the way.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
She really Okay, diamond players, let's just save it for that.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Maybe you could come on and tell us what it
was about. So big lots has happened since the last
time I was here. I was in Arkansas, I was
in New York, I was in.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Where were we this weekend?

Speaker 4 (05:44):
Oh goodness?

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Which is the New York Yeah, in New York for that,
and then we rounded out the weekend in Boyd, Atlantic City.
Oh my god, so many things to talk about, but yeah,
I did. I went to New York on Wednesday from
Arkansas to be a part of this Bob Saggat Scleroderma

(06:09):
Research Foundation annual show that they do to raise money.
It's so weird they started this charity thirty years ago,
or that they started this charity event thirty years ago.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
And Bob got asked to be on it. I think
the after the first year, the second year they did it.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
And it's for sclare deermat It's like this horrible like
kind of skin disease that it's no cure and it's
really painful and it's awful, awful, awful, And and he
did the He did it the first the second year,
and then the next year his sister got Sclara derma
died of it, very rare disease. So then Bob was
a part of this whole thing for years and years

(06:46):
until he died. He you know, during the pandemic I did.
Bob called me and asked me to do a song
for it. I did another thing. I've done something for it.
I think two out of the last three years. Last
year is supposed to but I had the vocal cord
surgery so I couldn't talk, so I couldn't do the show.
So I did this year and it was fucking awesome
because I flew in. I got put up in a

(07:07):
nice hotel. Thank you so much to Adam Sagitt, Bob's nephew,
who hooked it up and like made my stay so comfortable.
And then the event was in the in the hotel.
It was like the ballroom of the hotel.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
I didn't have to leave. I just go down to it.
And then it's me and Ronnie Chang, who I love
is so nice. We hung out backstage. I've never really
like hung out with them.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
He had a story of like, oh, when I first
I went to visit New York in two thousand and
like ten, and you helped me and my friend like
get on a bar show and I didn't remember it.
It's so weird that you remember things. But I think
I had a crush on his friend. He reminded me
who was friend Mows, And I was like, oh, yeah,
I think I did that because I had a little
crushy poo. But also, you know, I would do that anyway,

(07:52):
But I do remember maybe, and then I think I'm
not going to say what ended up happening, but because
it's mean, it's not juicy. But no, Ronnie Chang is
awesome and so funny. I had never seen I've seen clips,
but I had never seen his stand up. I never
sat and watched it. And that's not me being like
I don't care about stand Like you just don't see comedians.

(08:15):
And I'll get into that in a second when we
talk about someone else. But you just like, I don't know,
I just don't watch that much comedy.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
There's nothing I'd rather do less than go to a
comedy show.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Yeah, that's the way I used to feel. That's the
way I used to feel past Saturday.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yeah, I think shame.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
But also watching Ronnie Chang, I you know why I
watched comedy. I watch it like this. Okay, that's really
close to what I'm gonna be talking about on my special.
Please don't do the joke I'm gonna do. Please don't
have a take that's better than mine. Please don't have
the opposite take that proves my take wrong, Like, oh god,
don't do because a lot of times you'll hear a
joke about a topic that you are tackling, and it'll

(08:53):
just graze it.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
It'll just like just touch it, but it won't dig in.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
But now it's dead because anytime you go into that again,
you'd have to kind of graze it the way they
did to get deep, and people would call you a thief,
you know, So it's dead. If someone just like touches
a subject that is a little bit of the.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
Same, ta.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
A becomes like their signature bit and famous.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Because even in the comedy community, I don't ever want
like even five people thinking like she saw that at
an open mic or whatever, like I wouldn't.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
Even but there's gonna be things at open mic. You're
not watching all the open mics.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
I know, but if someone can place me at one
where I saw one. That's why I don't like to
watch comedy is because if I don't see it, then
I could do the joke, and if someone accuses me
of stealing it, I'll be like, I don't even watch
that person. So sometimes I see something I'm like, I
wish I would have just left the room because I
could keep doing my bit, and it wouldn't have I
wouldn't I would have been earnest about it, not.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
Knowing that someone else kind of ignorance.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah, but it's not good because you find inspiration. And
Ronnie Jane was so funny and he was talking about
fertility issues with him and his wife.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
He was talking about having kids.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
So it was a lot of like the same stuff
that I talk about, but it was like from his
perspective and it was nothing, nothing touched on anything I
did to thank fucking god. It was really funny. He
was so good. He's like talking about Luigi. He was
talking about what was like the host f Boyd Island.
A lot of topics were raised. Honestly, it left me
with not much else to do. It's just at the

(10:20):
end of it, like he didn't talk about having you know,
significant labea, so thank god.

Speaker 5 (10:26):
Yes, but aren't you gonna like run out of topics
in this world?

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Then no, No, you're just going to have to do
But like someone does a topic about okay, let me
like someone can two people can do topics about, you know,
the airplane.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Okay, here's an example.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
I was trying to make a bit about magnifying mirrors
in bathrooms and hotels and how they're horrifying and no
one needs to see that, and it sucks.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
But have I said this before?

Speaker 1 (10:52):
And then I was reading Ellen DeGeneres's book and she
starts with an entire All she does is talk about
the magnified mirror on the first two pages of this
book I'm reading, and she literally covers every joke that
could be done about it, like she.

Speaker 5 (11:06):
Looks like the moon looks like a sandwich, looks like Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
She just lists all the things.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
It was so funny and so well done, and I
was just like, well, that's done for me. But if
we let's say I had a bit about a magnifying mirror,
but it was like, my point was I love them,
or my point was they make me feel bad about
myself for this reason. But she's saying, oh, they make
me feel bad because of my wrinkles. I say, they
make me feel bad for my poor size. That could

(11:32):
we could still do things. But if we're both saying, like,
it shows you their skins so close up it looks
like the surface of blah blah. And she says the moon,
and I say, Mars or some other surface that looks
like the moon. That's you shouldn't do that. Yeah, I
think that's the rule kind of god, at least that
I followed.

Speaker 5 (11:48):
But I just said that it looked like the moon.
But I never heard anybody's stand up.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
So I really have to be very careful with what
I say to you do a hack because no one's gonna.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Think you're beause on a stage. You're not on a stage,
and I won't ever be. You could be if you want,
you couldn't. All of my friends could be comedians, but
they just don't need that scary.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
And then why is it scary to go on a stage? Yes?

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Why?

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Because I mean I know why, but I just want
to hear, like why, Like I'm interested in, like what
what is the fear?

Speaker 5 (12:23):
Well, I have OCD, so I would think that I
would pee my pants or something like ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
It would never happened.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
At one girl at prom after Pah.

Speaker 4 (12:34):
Cassi.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Was it Cassie. I don't remember who it was.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
I don't remember her last name, but I believe it
was something Cassie. But that was what solidified that hypnotists
are real and that's real, because we were like, no,
there's no way hypnotists are really real, Like people just
want to they're doing it to a fee and pretend
that their chair is of you know, uh, their their
husband and pomp it or whatever. Like they're just putting

(12:57):
on a.

Speaker 5 (12:57):
Neck because they're like helping the hypnotists. They're being part
of it.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
But man, this girl got hypnotized.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
She was She's not She wasn't particularly an outgoing person,
but she wasn't so so shy. She was just normal.
She goes up, she gets hypnotized. This is on Taylor's
after prom. Taylor isn't a grade above me. I got
snuck in because Taylor brought me along. I was a
junior at a senior prom thing, and that's hypnotists said
your chairs are on fire. And she pissed her pants

(13:26):
in fear.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Continues to walk around, not knowing that she did it.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
No, and then she took off her sweatshirt and tied
it around her way. Yeah, like our friend who has
bladder problems and would piss her pants every time she
laughed too hard. It's a thing, But that proved it
because I was like, no one would choose to pee
their pants in front of their high school senior class.

Speaker 6 (13:50):
No.

Speaker 5 (13:50):
Also, there was a girl it was I don't remember
who this was either, but he said something like do
your favorite sex position or something or something like that,
like you're.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Making out, you know it.

Speaker 5 (14:01):
Maybe it wasn't sex, but this girl, who was like
a very Christian girl, was like kind of going a
little buck on it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
And then and then when I remember when.

Speaker 5 (14:12):
Cassie or whoever it was, he he went like, okay, ready, set,
you're awake and snapped.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
She's like, that's right. That's when she did the sweatshirts.
She woke up out of it, but she in it.
She thought her chair was on fire, and as you would,
you would piss your pants and.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
Fear if your chair the fire.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Oh that's a good idea. Yeah, okay, I've never even
thought about that.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
She's very good, smart, resourceful.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
Yeah, but yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
I saw Ronnie Chang and then Michael Chang was also
on the show, and he we didn't hang out backstage,
but he showed up. Change Chang and Nikki Chi Chang
Chi Chang Chang. The chounting shows FROs. Yes, so they
had a music at the ends.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
The chaluting show was counting time. Yeah, that's them. I
think that's like that. It's like or lighthouse or something.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
Fastball. I don't think so actually sounds like something though.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Yes, someone at home. We're not gonna look it up
closing time semi.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Oh yeah, we were so close a fastballs go fast
almost like sonic speed in there. Okay, So Ronnie Chang
went up. Jeff Ross was hosting. They were doing like
an auction. It was like a dinner. It was this banquet.
It was a really like lovely dressy affair. Yes, and jeffs.

(15:45):
Ronnie went up, went up. I follow Ronnie. I do
so so it was fine, not my best but definitely
got the job done. And then and we were all
telling stories about Bob, which Ronnie kind of kicked off,
which like at the end, Ronnie was like, I just
want to say Bob, like you know.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
He told a story about Bob.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Just being really just an amazing person and like seeking
out friendship and always wanting to hang and like, uh,
I really forget because I was like getting ready for myself.
But he said something nice, so at then and my
said I got to share a nice little thing about Bob.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
And then Chay went up. Chay killed Hay was hilarious.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Chay also did jokes that I was like stop stop
right now, stop going there that's really close to what
I'm doing.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
And then he didn't go all the way there.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
I was, thank god. My dogs are fighting at my legs.
If you guys want to watch on YouTube.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
The dogs are wrestling at my feet, which is what
they always do.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
They just need to wrestle on you. And this is
when they're the happiest thing. So relaxed because two people
they love are hanging in a room and talking. We're
not watching like we're everywhere. Everyone they love is where
they wanted to be. They are just we will look
at them also if they want, yeah, and they love it.

Speaker 5 (16:53):
If not, they just stare stand far away and stare
at you until you reach the.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
Position the stairs.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
I've been getting while watching these dog for my parents
while they're out of town. It's like they just Luigi almost.
I think yesterday he glared at me. I saw him
just like disgusted with like you we should be playing
right now, you fucking lazy piece of shit. He doesn't play, Yeah,
but he's playing right now. He would play so but

(17:20):
then counting Crows. I'm flipping out about Counting Crows because
I love them, Taylor and I loved them in high school.
It was Dave Matthews band, it was Counting Crows. It
was John Mayor for me. I don't know if you
were onto John Mayor that much, but those were like
my trifecta. And we went to see Counting Crows in
September of maybe two thousand nine eleven.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
It just felt fall. Maybe it's because it was August
and everything after you and everything September you were plans
was doin fall.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
We didn't.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
We was at the American Theater, which I think is
something else now, and we were front row because we
were This is the best thing I ever did as
a teen. I learned because someone recently was talking to
me about going to Eras, and I go, if you're
not on floor and you've seen the Eras movie, I
don't even think it's worth going to, Like, you gotta
be close because if you've seen the movie, you've had
a front row seat and you're good. It's not gonna

(18:11):
be as good as the movie because the experience of
the movie is great because you're with a bunch of
swifties and they're all singing, Like I would say, oh,
the movie at home is not as good as experience
for the movie at a theater is as good as
going to Ara's show on the floor. But you gotta
sit on the floor because once you're up close, you
can't go back. Because we would always do that in
high school. We would be up close, we'd get general admission,

(18:33):
we'd get there early, and we'd get to the front
because it's the best.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
And then so we were.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Rat with Beatle Bob.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yeah, there was a famous Saint Louis and guy who
would go to every concert, every single night in Saint Louis.
He's at every single one. He was he died recently,
but and he would dance and he had a beatle haircut,
and he would dance and everyone knew him as Beatle Bob.
And he would be at every single show in Saint
Louis all the time, and we saw him all the time.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
He recently passed away, Beetle Bob.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
I'll tell you what the counting crows the rest of
the story when we get back, because we have to
go to break. But something embarrassing happened during I disagree.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Wait why I'm proud of of what happened?

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Oh yeah, I think I told you girls aftermath. Yeah,
it was it was not it was at your thing.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
I thought you were talking about.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
When year, oh, when we were kids. Everything's embarrassed. Yeah,
the whole thing's embarrassing. We'll find out about all that
when we get back on your all right, the dogs
are still fighting. So I'm at this event. Jeff Ross
is on stage, Michael Jay has just gone up. Now
it's signed for Counting Crows. He's about to bring up
Counting Crows. And I am on the side, like so
excited because I'm like nearly front row, but I'm like

(19:43):
on the side and I'm feeling like I'm like I
can't believe I get to watch and it's just Adam
and his guitarist I forget the guy's name, but it's
just those two, Adam Duritz. It's not like the whole band.
And Jeff is about to introduce them, and I'm kind
of like looking at Jeff, like involve me in this, please,
Like I just want to be involved and uh, and
Jeff is like as they're setting up, Jeff's kind of

(20:05):
killing time by talking about like I love these guys.
I've seen them so many times. They're one of the
greatest bands. Blah blah blah and He's like, who here
in the room is a kind of Crows fan?

Speaker 3 (20:14):
And I was like hey, hey, And then I was like,
can I come up? And Jeff's like, yeah, come up here.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
So Jeff and Jeff is always like we're buds, so
he was like, yeah, come up. So I grab a
mic and Jeff and I are on stage, and I
was like, I just didn't plan it right, Okay, Like
I should have. I should have had a plan knowing
that I possibly could have been speaking into a microphone
about my love of Counting Crows and my history of
loving Counting Crows. Oh, because I would have just had

(20:40):
a beat to like, think of the punchlines, ease the
crowd into what I was about to say. So instead
I ran up on stage and I just go I
love these guys so much. Adam Durretz. I saw you
in high school. I was obsessed with you in high school.
My friends and I touched you. We went home. We
put our fingers on masking tape so we could collect

(21:03):
your fingerprints.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
We put them on note cards.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
This has been By the way, there are four hundred
people here, all at banquet tables, all old people. They
don't have any context I'm just like, I went from
straight up like I love you guys, high school note cards.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
DNA, and then I.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
D because I think that's I just don't want We'll
talk about that in a second.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
I chose not to say that.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Instead, I said, we even stole your water bottle and
choved your backwash about us because we were like we're
drinking his DNA. I was like, I thought this was funny.
I was like, we were obsessed with you. Okay in retrospect, Okay,
by the way, no one laughed. Everyone's horrified. There is
literally dead silence. There's not no it's awkward, And so
I just keep going.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Did you every time I tell this story?

Speaker 4 (21:49):
Did he?

Speaker 2 (21:52):
No?

Speaker 3 (21:52):
He's confused.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
To everyone give a chance for anyone to mas see
this video of this?

Speaker 3 (21:57):
No, I don't think there is one.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
I'm going to find it.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
It was so so I'm like, I don't care. I care,
but I kind of don't care. I've just like bombed
so many times. It's really is not that it doesn't
hurt as much anymore. So then what I would have
done in retrospect, let me just like rewind this is
how I would have said it.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
Thank you, Jeff, Okay.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
I am a giant music fan to the point that
it becomes obsessive and scary. I've been to nine Taylor
Swift shows this year. It's a little much. I have
been this way since high school. I have always taken
it to the extreme. I literally had beatlemania for the Crows.
I was a dirret's head. I would have said something

(22:41):
I would have just a dreadhead.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
I was a little on ramp to the insanity.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
Yes, because the insane cologist came out.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Of nowhere because you love them so much.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
It's honest and right way I did lie. I didn't
drink Adam Durtz's backwash. It was John Mayer's backwash. But
it just stills. But it would took the play to
how a Day Was stole his set sweat Raguar and
we like inhaled it like we were puffing.

Speaker 4 (23:06):
You got to go either way with it. You do
the on ramp. You acknowledge that what you're about to
say is in says that they're like, Okay, she's jerking
around because she knows. Or you go the exact opposite
direction and you go I drank your piss and I
followed you home and I went to your kids room
and I watched them sleep either way, not.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Give them an on ramp.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
I just flew off the highway, flipped the car six times,
like wrapped around a tree survivors.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
And so then.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
So I did why I chose to say lie and
say the backwash story is a because I would have
done that had we gotten his water bottle without questions.
So I did feel bad lying about that just because
it would have been true had we had it. We
just didn't have access.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
You're just combining stories.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
The real story that's worse than that is that I
grabbed his dreadlock as he was singing a song.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Yeah, but he's white.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
Yeah, but grabbing any Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
It's like it's not like you're like, like your hair
is so pretty to think.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
God, I didn't do it to Ben Harper.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
We were also obsessed with him, but he was just
sitting down with a.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
Harp on his entire show. But I didn't grab it.
Let me be honest with you.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
I just like drifted my fingers through it like a
wind chime, you know, like I but he looked at me.
I will never forget he looked at me, like, get
the fuck off me, you dumb bitch, which I completely deserved.
So I didn't want to retell that because I didn't
want him to remember or be triggered by an.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
Assault like that.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
You know, like I just didn't want to be one
of those girls, even though I was. I would tell
him this personally one on one, but like in the
room before he's singing, I didn't want to bring that up.
So then, Jeff is it's kind of just like I'm
running out of things to just I'm trying to dig
myself out of it.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
I'm like, I was just a huge fan. I wanted
your DNA.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
But like then I'm realizing I'm bombing and the sweat
is accumulating on my lower back. There's a droplet that's
sliding down into my buck crack, which always happens when
I bomb. If it gets to my buck crack, and
that means there's no saving it. So there's always a
droplet immediately, Yes, a barometer. It's like the ball dropping
on New Year's Eve.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
And Adam responding to this at all? Is he just
like nodding like okay.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
Adam's there with his girlfriend.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
So I also would have liked to say some kind
of acknowledgment of like, I, you know, like to make
it not sexual.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
I think it was too.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Like even though I was I sent myself ever sine fifteen.
I know, so I have some girlfriends who would have
been like and then this bitch was like going on
about how she like wanted his DNA, which and like
it would have just been like I didn't need to
hear that he's my man like, but luckily I met
her afterwards. She was not like that at all. She
was like smiley, so nice, so sweet. But so then

(25:53):
I go to Jeff and I was like, can I
introduce them? Like as I'm like trying to dig out,
I was like, are we ready? No, I just started
to Jeff, I go, are we ready? Because then they're
set up for there's you know, the plugs are the
guys have set up the guitar stands and everything, and
I go, can I do it? And then I was
like Ladies and Gentlemen one of the greatest bands of
all time, which I thought was good, just like cut

(26:13):
to the chase like Count and Crows, and then I
bring them up. They walk up and I'm already looking
at Adam like I'm sorry. That was so weird, you know,
and I've never even met him before except for you
know in two thousand when I grabbed his dread and
that wasn't really.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
So he was acquainted.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
He remembered your hands. Suddenly he was triggered.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
He saw your hand and was like no, and the
DNA we got we have been working on a clone.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
So I have bad thing in my close.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Is it's in one of our closets.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Do you have it? I mean we went to Leslie
Lamer's house.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Afterwards, I remember, but no, I've seen it since.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
I'm JK.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
I've seen it since then. So oh really, so it
might be in my house. You haven't found out.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
It's a close card with all the data.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
It's like under the bed, like does it move around?

Speaker 1 (26:59):
No, he can't talk. It's a really we sucked it
up pretty bad. We have a couple of arms, his
arms coming out of his head.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
He's like, I kind of just where they pulled the
old lady out from under the.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
Bad right about that.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
I'm scary. It's so good.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
So yeah, we I have forgot to feed it. I
have to go feed the Adam Clane later. But it's
just makes guitar.

Speaker 5 (27:25):
No it's just like he thinks he's playing the guitar,
but he only has like one arm and the other
ones like kind.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
Of yeah, a claw.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Sometimes we just set a guitar next to it. I
don't think Adam can play guitar. Actually, I think he's
on He bounces around and even said that when he
sat down to play piano, he said, this is the
only song I can play on piano. Because then he
played so that as we crossed paths, he says to
me he was like, here's some more DNA or something like,
as he shook my hand, makes joke. He was cool,

(27:56):
and then that maybe that's why in retrospect I didn't
give a fuck, because.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
He he didn't care.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Yeah, funny, I'm sure I love him so much, you guys.
He goes on stage and oh my god, I'm like
getting goose books just thinking about it. He talks about Bob,
and he talks about this event that he's been playing.
He's like, I'll always play this event. He's done it
before in the past, it's been going on for thirty years.
And then he says that Bob introduced him, like Bob

(28:22):
took him under his wing, and like really, brought him
around the comedy community, and he was like, and I
got to know comedians.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
I got to be around comedians.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
And he talked with such reverence, which, by the way,
I just as a comedian, I never hear people be
like I mean, it's not that I never hear people
be like comedians start wow, but like, I never hear
someone who I look at as a fucking seminal artist
being like in awe of what we do. And he said,
direct quote, he was like, and man, comedians, what they

(28:51):
do is so much harder than what we do, so
much harder. And it was like it was apropos of nothing. Honestly,
there was no reason for him him to say that
in that moment. I needed to hear it because I
have such I just have such shame about not being
able to be a musician that I want to be
your intro.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
Oh yeah, he just like wow.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
To survive that, to not go up to your and
yourself tonight live, it's going to be a long December
for Nikki Jesus to rectifying that situation.

Speaker 4 (29:26):
So closing time, so.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
He uh, he said that, and he goes he's he said,
you know, I'm there's which I would argue with him
on this. He said that, you know, they put themselves
out there in such a different way, which I I
do disagree with because and I've talked about this on
the pod before, but you know when and I just

(29:49):
let me just caveat this. Also, I just heard Joe
lists podcast Mental Metal Jacket or something it's called.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
I don't know what it's called, but it's really good.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Joe lis podcast where he talks about mental health, and
he had on Henry Phillips, who is one of my
favorite comedians and writers and jokes. He's just from punch
Why Punching the Clown, a movie that I'm in, and
Punching Henry the sequel, which I'm also in, But he
had Henry on. We were listening to that podcast this weekend,
me and my friend Sean, and they were talking about
singing and how because Henry sings in his act and

(30:21):
he also is a comedian, but how singing is. Joe
was making the same point I make, which singing is
so I think much more vulnerable than being.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
A comedian being yourself, because.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
I think it's so embarrassing to be like I'm gonna
He compared it to character work. Too, Like if you're
a comedian doing like voices and like big bits where
you're doing act outs, it's so much more putting yourself
out there if that bombs and you're because there's effort
behind it. There's clear effort, Whereas if I'm just on
stage telling you about my trip to Starbucks in my
normal speaking voice and I have a couppeled jokes that

(30:58):
don't do well, there's not a lot of putting out
on the line because I did it. I'm not trying
whether or not I'm even if I'm talking about my vagina,
if I'm doing it like this in a conversational tone,
or I'm talking about something that is like you know,
seems really like wow, Nikki, thank you for sharing that
I'm not trying because I'm just talking like this, Like
it's not like I'm doing it like this and I'm

(31:18):
tayking like that. I realized what makes me nervous is effort. Yeah,
because if I put an effort and it fails, that's
so much more embarrassing than no effort. And that's why
I do think that musicians for me do something that's
harder because especially ones that sing songs that they wrote

(31:39):
because it's so.

Speaker 4 (31:41):
And you add sincerity on top of effort and you're like.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
Oh, moaning singing, crying singings, Like is.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
It reminds me of doing sketch comedy, which I think
is the saddest way to bomb, because if you bomb
with sketch comedy, I just remember doing shows and then
having to like pack up all my pro that didn't
work to put on a plane, like oh no, this
fake chicken has to go in this bag. No one
laughed at it at all.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
Rick Lassman uh uses a puppet on stage, and he
says when he gets home at night, sometimes he like
takes it out and like tucks it in, and he's like,
that's the saddest night of my life, is like taking
it out and like arranging it so it's like propped
up perfectly and kind of just like closing its eyes
and like just any effort, Like even in my own act,
like when I write a bit that has some sort

(32:33):
of memorization value to it, where it's like it it
hinges on me, like remembering this thing and then saying
this thing and then doing this thing, and then it's
sticking the landing. Like even that I get so nervous
because if that bombs, it's sod.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
That bit of.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
Sweat will start forming.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Whereas if I just like shooting from the hip talking
about something and it doesn't go, well, there's no I
didn't lose anything because I didn't try, so he can't
be mad at me if it's bad. My whole life
is this, Yeah, I pack my schedule so that if
you go, Nikki, that thing sucked that you did, I'll go, well,
I'm so busy it should suck.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
Look at my schedule.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
But if I and Chris the other day was like,
you've got to clear out your schedule. You got to
make time to work on the special, and like all
you do is the special. All you do is the
podcast voice lessons and the special, no thing extra, And
I'm like, I don't want to do that because if
the special's not good, I'll have no.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Excuse because you're a three on the enneagram.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
Really, Oh is that what threes do?

Speaker 2 (33:28):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (33:28):
If you start even like being like, I think something's
wrong with me if you're not busy, because you need
to be occupied all the time.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
But it's but is it inherently an excuse for low
self esteem which you don't want to be revealed for
because if you if you try it something and it fails,
that means you're.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
Bad at it because you try.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
But if you don't try, you can always say I'm
not bad, I just didn't try.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Oh so then Adam Durrett's this is my second favorite part.
But he goes, you know, he's like saying, comedians, what
they do is so much harder. He was like, they
really put themselves out there. He was like, and that's
why I'm just I'm in awe of these guys. And
he catches himself saying guys, and he's kind of like
referencing me and Ronnie and Jeff that are kind of
standing to the side. Chay's long gone at this point,

(34:16):
but he's like, you know, that's why I'm in awe
of these guys. And then he like positioned himself on
the piano to start playing and he goes and Nikki,
he like, yes, because I don't care when guys say
guys for women. I'm not like in the Now and
Then movie where it's like we're girls, some of us
aren't girls. There's like a line in that movie. But

(34:38):
just that he said my name was like yes, and
so then then this is the cool part.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
So he played three songs. The first song was beautiful,
I don't remember what it was. The second song he
kept making a joke before each song. The first song
he did, he was like, he said something about at
the beginning, like, all of these songs are about Bob.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
I wrote them all about Bob.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
But he was like saying, like they aren't, but like,
let me just pretend like they are, like this is
a night for Bob. So it was kind of established
that that was the joke or whatever, that these aren't
gonna be about Bob, but like, let's just say they are.

Speaker 4 (35:10):
So this.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
So he goes in the song and he goes and
so this this next song is also this is a
one hundred percent about Bob sagot And then he plays
the song and in the song is a character's name Bob.
He's like, it's the song is about a guy named Bob.
And you can see his face as he's singing it,
like whoa. And then he finishes the song and he's like,
can I just say I didn't remember that song had

(35:34):
Bob in the name. It was so weird that I
said it was gonna be about him, and then Bob
he was like, and maybe if you're not an artist,
and I don't mean to be like, as an artist,
I can tell about this.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
You might go, how did he not know Bob was
in the name.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Sometimes I tell a joke and I have like there
are kids in the room, and I don't realize, Oh,
fuck this joke to use the word again hinges on
the fact that I say, I scored it all over
his face or something, I'll like forget that that's in
the like, you know, so there's all the time that
you have content within these things that you've made and
been doing for years that you forget, like what it
even is.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
You're like thinking of your grocery list.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
So then he was like that was so weird, Like
he's kind of like, I can't even believe that. And
then I just grabbed Jeff and I was like, that
was Bob. I was like, Bob is in the fucking
room tonight. There's no question that Bob was like, Oh,
you're gonna make a little joke about these songs being
about me. You're gonna sing a song bitch with my
name in it and make everyone think about me, and

(36:28):
everyone's gonna tear up because it's it sounds like it
was about a tall man named Bob.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
Like the song was, and it wasn't even.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
Maybe look up the lyrics know it like counting crows,
Bob tall, because I think those were three words that
were in it. I'd appreciate if you would just so
people could maybe go give it a listen.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
So then Jeff was like, whoa that was?

Speaker 1 (36:51):
And I don't like to think of I just felt
Bob in the room, and that's what I said on stage.
I was like, I just love this night because I like,
I feel like he's here. It's just such a celebrat
of him. His wife was there, Kelly Rizzo, who I
absolutely love. We got to like hang out and talk
about her appearance on Special Forces, which is that show
where celebrities go on and like have to tough it out,
and it was really fun to talk to her about

(37:12):
that and how I want to do that show someday.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Hell yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
But then.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
After the show, so after the show ends, oh, then
they play Long December And let me just say thank
you Adam Durretz because sometimes he can get a little
liberal with what he wants to do with the song,
like he can change it a little bit and be
like it's been a long December and the reason to believe. Yeah, yeah,

(37:39):
you could probably on you grab him, but he you know,
he just does that.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
He like likes to mix it up for himself. It's
his prerogative.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
But he fucking stuck to this song and he only
did one part where it was like and you know
what I really loved that he's stuck to was there's
at the very end he goes no.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
No Nanna, no no no no no no.

Speaker 4 (37:59):
No no no.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
And I really didn't think that he would stick this part,
but he goes.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
No no no nine. Yeah he did that. Yeah, like, yes,
that's the part you don't eat. We would we would
be okay if you didn't do that because it's not
but it's such an essential part of the song. It
was so good.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
And then afterwards and everything he said, like as someone
who speaks for a living and just got done being
a total mushmouse and literally not making any sense. When
I did his intro, he was so amazing at what
he said.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
It was all poignant. It was like tier jerky.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
It was just like usually musicians, you're like zip it
like just sing, but he really said some good things.
So afterwards, I was like, I really want to meet him,
but I'm like, also, I kind of said that I
wanted his DNA, and I don't want to go in
like his girlfriend's there. I don't want her to feel
like I'm like trying to make I don't know. I
just didn't want it to feel weird. So I was like,
and Jeff is friends with him, and so I was like, Jeff,

(38:54):
will you introduced me to Adam Duritz, which I've I
really think this is the first time in my life
I've ever asked someone to introduce me to one. I
am not someone who does that. I think it's kind
of annoying, like do it yourself. And so Jeff's like sure,
and then I was like.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
No, that's stupid.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
I'll just go up to him, like I don't know
what I'm thinking, because Jeff's like, I really want to go,
but I was like, no, Jeff, I can do it,
and he was like no, no, no, I'm going to
So Jeff goes over introduces me to him, and I'm.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
Just like, I love you.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
I was like, I just need you to know you
are so talented. I felt like his grandmother. I was like,
you have so much talent what you said and I said,
your voice has not changed. I was like, your voice
sounds just.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
You're just the good boy in the world. Are you
on the road.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Yeah, I just told him because his voice sounded it
hasn't aged at all, and voices obviously aged so much.
It made me laugh on the Girl's chet the other
day when Holla was talking about aging and Halla was like,
I don't care.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
Halla talks everything like this.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
I don't even care.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
This is that for those of you who are keeping score,
this is the friend who peased when she laughs too hard.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
Hall is like, and I know holl is listening now.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
All I was like, I don't even care about like
wrinkle and like my face like sagging.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
I don't care at all, like.

Speaker 4 (40:05):
Hair.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
All I care is I like, don't want like an
old voice. It was making me laugh so hard.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Anything topic like a oh boy, she.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Doesn't want to be like her like this, but still
have an old voice.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
Yeah, her mom's voice is like this.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Her mom had a girl growing up and we were
We would always wake up to girls.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
It was like, wake up girls, would you let some
chocolate chip cookies? Girls.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
I made some gram cracker cruss.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
She was like the most chipper woman.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
I ran four miles, would you like three? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (40:44):
She had a very active mom and now her mom
Halla's mom is obsessed with veterans.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
I don't know why.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
It makes me laugh so hard because it's so sweet.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
But her mom, like on Instagram, is constantly posting things
about like honoring her veterans. She's always doing like a
vetter ends run, a veteran swim like. She's always posing
next to someone who looks like a corpse like, and
she's like she's always like leaning down next to their wheelchair,
like thank you for your service. I think it's probably
some way for her to feel connected to her father,
who's probably passed or something.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
Yeah, but I'm.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
Veterans Day and I wrote Tala, you better fucking wish
your mama happy Veterans Day and thank you so much
for this reminder.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
She was sincere about it. I was like, oh, I
was just joking, but she was like, no, this is
gonna get me. She'll be Yeah. I always think about.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
Lisa Holly when I think about veterans. I think it's
so sweet that she's passionate about them. Okay, we got
to go to break I'll uh come back and tell
you more stuff when we get back. All right, we're back. So, Brian,
you were saying before, and you agree with me watching
stand up as a stand up comedian, No, thank you.
Like going to a stand up show. What was the
last stand up show.

Speaker 6 (41:50):
You went to that I that I just bought in
the seats? Yeah, yeah, I can't remember, but yours. I mean,
I've I went to see Patona Walt in San Diego
before he filmed his last special, which you know he
wasn't he was the special wasn't ready, so it was
just kind of like watching someone try to figure stuff

(42:11):
out on stage for an hour, so not like not
locked in.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
Well, I kind of like that show me. I need
to see more of that. I want to see comedians
not being amazing and like that's what.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
The show is good. The show is good, it's just you.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
Know, yeah, he's one of the best. So he's one
of that.

Speaker 4 (42:29):
I mean, he has one of the best comedians of
all time. I just saw him early on developing his
hour and I was like, yeah, I don't yeah, I see,
I've seen enough comedy that like I'm not interested in
seeing I know it's happened. Someone figure it out. I
want to see his bits at the end when they're
all finished, and like, oh my god, that's genius.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Did I tell you about the trick about bringing your
notes on stage?

Speaker 3 (42:50):
Have I talked about that on here?

Speaker 4 (42:51):
No? What's the trick? I want to know?

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Okay, Well, I ran into I think Whitney Cummings. I mean,
I don't think it was.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
I know it was. I'm just trying to think if
I should name names. But we were talking.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
About someone we were on a show with or something.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
Who had uh oh, I know what it was.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
I was like when he was leaving, I was coming
to them brow if we were talking in the lobby.
She was like, oh, I'm headed to Burbank right now
to do Flappers. And I was like, oh god, Burbank,
that's a far drive. She was like, I can't just
I can't develop material anymore in Hollywood, Like there could
be like the president of Paramount could be in.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
The room, see a bomb working on a bit.

Speaker 4 (43:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
And I was like yeah, and I go, you know what?
And this is something I think I shared with her
more than we came up with it together.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
But I was like, I've been seeing certain comedians bringing
their notes.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
On stage, and it is not because they need them,
it's because it gives what I was just talking about.
If it's bad, you can go. They were not. They
were working things out. They need to practice, so it
excuses it. I saw this person using their notes, and
then I saw them two months later using their notes

(44:04):
and doing the same jokes, and they the bar gets
so lowered if you see someone being like, this is
some new stuff you know I'm going through. But the
person I confirmed it did not need their notes. And
then subsequently, everyone I would talk to about seeing this
person would say it was so cool. The other night
I got to see him working on new stuff and

(44:27):
I said, it's not new stuff. I've been seeing that saying.
And I go, let me tell you the jokes they
were working on. Da da da da d da da da,
And they go yep, yep, yep. But I go, I've
saw I saw that two months ago.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
That is not new.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
That person gets on stage all the time. That's but
it's a it's it's smart. I don't begrudge that person
because they have figured out a way to make it.
That's alternative comedy. Though, is like this. It was this
you know, surge of you know. Janie Grofflo brought notes
on her special, on her HBO special to make it
look like I don't care, because being like you don't

(45:02):
care is it's yeah and so.

Speaker 4 (45:06):
But I this is why, this is why LA is
the worst place to do comedy. I think because the
audience is always filled with agents or some or someone
in the industry. They're not good laughers.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
Believe how much people have seen me bomb.

Speaker 4 (45:19):
Yeah, it's crazy. You got to go up there and
do your best and you can't work on anything unless
you're at very specific rooms where you just guaranteed no
one's there. But man, yeah, someone like me. It sucks.
It fucking sucks because it's like no one knows who
I am. I go up there and it's like, if
I don't do my best stuff, they're gonna their first
impression will be your piece of shit and you're white.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
I think what you do is you gotta do your
best stuff, and then you pull out that little piece
of paper and you go hear some new stuff.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
It's not good. You put the paper back away and
you get back to your good stuff.

Speaker 4 (45:51):
I don't I go up there, I do my jokes.
If they start bombing, I pull out a piece of
paper and then I go by the way, you know,
I was. I was trying out these jokes and this
piece of paper. But if it's doing well, keep the
paper in my back pocket, and I say, I'm just
fucking awesome.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
I brought a paper on stage the other night because
I'm working on memorizing like the order of this one bit.
And I'm usually just like fucking grab bagging at shit
on stage, and Brian is helping me very much on
my special, like organize it and put it into an order,
and so I wrote it all out in an order
the other night, and I mean it is it was
like a hundred words listed because it's like.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
You know, I need to remember every little joke.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
So it's one hundred words for like a ten minute bit,
and I'm just and I put it on the stool
next to me and I just kept looking down. I
felt so I was so scared someone was gonna be
like she wasn't even ready, but it was like, no,
this is put more effort than I've ever put in
my life.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
Like I'm actually trying harder on.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
This show than you think, but it did feel weird
to like look down at notes, even though I definitely
needed notes for the first ten, I would say, six
years of my career.

Speaker 3 (46:54):
I was like five. I was obsessed with bringing notes
on stage. I would never not they.

Speaker 4 (46:58):
Become a crutch. Then you get to the point where
you can't do without notes, even if now.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
I would never bring notes, and bringing notes on stage
is crazy to me now.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
But but uh, and that sounds like a.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Brag, but it's just it's just whatever you do, like
the habits you form stick. So okay, getting to the point,
have you ever heard of Sebastian Manscalco? Taylor heard of them,
but I don't know. Okay, that's good, that's good enough.
So on Saturday night, I was in Atlantic City. I
was at the hard Rock. It was an amazing show,
so much fun. Thank you to everyone who came out.

(47:31):
And also in Rehobeth Beach, you guys were a little rowdy,
a little different, but I also appreciate you. And I
met one bestie backstage in Rehobeth because it wasn't a
meet and great, but he I forget how I figured
out some way to get him back. And I'm you know,
if you if you try very hard, you can find
a way always. But if you can't, it's not because
I like barred you from it, Okay. And then Saturday,

(47:56):
Atlantic City, I do my show, I do my meet
and greet, and then Matt, my tour manager, is like, hey,
the promoter is doing Sebastian show too at the Borgot.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
It's across the way.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
Do you want to go see it? He's doing a
ten o'clock show. And I was like, yeah, you know
before the show he actually brought this up. I was
like yeah, But I was also thinking, there's no fucking
way I'm gonna want to go see a show after
I've done a show and a meet and greet and
eaten too much for dinner and just been like I.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
Want to just go to bed.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
But I was like, no, let's go because it was
me Anya. My friend Sean O'Brien was like, let's go
see Sebastian. So we get in a van, we drive
over to the Borgata. We get like a throw and
we are in the spotlight, like there's no way we
can get out early Like this is I don't sit
in seats like this to seek it just never doesn't

(48:41):
happen to me. But I'm like, you know what this
is like, Actually I'm in a really good mood. I'm
in the stage, is in the center, and then it's
a you know, it's in the round, and I'm like,
this is really cool, and let me just like surrender
to this night, being like I'm in an audience, like
take off your little like comedian brain and have fun.
And you would have been able to in this moment.

(49:03):
I'm not kidding you, because I was fighting it the
whole time and it kept happening. So then so Sebastian
comes out and I have announcement. He's my favorite comedian.
I think he's he's up there with Louie. He's up
there with Burr, He's up there with Carlin.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
He's up there. I mean he is Paton. We're talking
about the Chappelle.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
Sebastian mascalco is one of the greatest comedians who will
ever live. It was so fucking funny, and I do
say that like him because it was fucking clay.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
It was. It was so good. It was.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
All I can say about it is that it was
if he would have just been standing at a microphone
resting his leg on a stool or sitting on a
stool Maren style, Cause style.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
If he was raping some girl in the back, if.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
He was just standing there, it would have been just
as funny. So I think that I used to have
it in my head that Sebastian was a lot of
like not gimmicks. But I think some people can think
he's gimmicky because it's very He's very active, and he
acts out things, and he does character voices, and he
does like weird inflections with his voice. Final thought, Sebastian

(50:24):
doesn't need any of that shit. That adds color and
a pastiche. I don't know what that word means, but
it feels right. That adds texture to an already a
plus set of material and jokes there was. If you
read it in a transcript, you'd be laughing. He could
write a book and you'd be laughing. And you don't
need to hear his cadence. But adding his cadence, his rhythm,

(50:46):
his almost like ballet type limberness, and just choreography through
the show was so fun.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
It took me on a fucking journey.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
I thought, a rejuvenated sense of like, Wow, this is
the best art form ever, it was like seeing eras tour.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
It was like it was.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
Because he would he would turn around in the round
so perfectly. He'd be facing you, and then he would
turn and then it's his backs to you. But then
you look up and there's a screen and then he's
right there, so like you're always he's always right there.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
He then did crowd work for a bit.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
The lights came up and he made fun of people
and it was so just, you know, pitch perfect. But
he also like didn't shy away from being dirty. He
didn't shy away from being weird, he didn't shy away
from being really inappropriate. He at one point he made
a joke about make a wish kids. That was like
in the joke, right, and he was, you know, I'm
not going to kill the joke, but he he does

(51:41):
something to make a wish because that isn't.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
That nice, right, He like he takes He doesn't he
doesn't do anything.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
Violent, but yeah, he kind of like he butts them
in line, essentially is the joke. And then he you
can tell it's like I don't I'm not that well
versed in his material to know, but it felt like
it was like maybe a departure for him to make
a joke that kind of dark, right, So then he
stops and he's like, I just want to take a
break and say that was a joke. Okay, I don't

(52:06):
want any letters tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
Were you writing I have a make a wish kid?
And he in sinuated that they could have been in Lyne.
He goes, that was sarcastic.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
He was like he which is is not the first
time a comedian has done that, to like take a
break and walk you through, like why it's joke, But
it felt the way he did it was so funny
and also left no room for anyone to be offended.
And he really explained what it was and that it
wasn't and and he.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
Had a venom for the person that would write that.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
He wasn't like I'm sorry, there was no like, it
was like, you're a fucking idiot. He didn't say that,
but you are an idiot if you would ever get
offended by that. And it was just I don't know,
and being with Anya and like laughing next to her,
Can I just say it's pretty fun to go to
comedy shows with friends and like and share laughter with people,

(52:54):
and like Turan and go like it's so true. Oh
my god, the thing he did about Venmo I just
around me, people got guys going. I gotta remember that
one like everyone is just and then there's couples that
are pointing to each other like you're the one that
does that.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
It's so fun. And I gotta say people should go
to more comedy shows. I should go to more.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
And I did feel a little bit like watching how
great he was, I felt a little bit like Ashley
Simpson at Taylor Swift's concert. But I will say I
don't say that disparagingly. I am definitely on the same
path as Sebastian Maniscalco. I worked with Sebastian Mansclco in
two thousand and nine or ten, and I don't remember
him being this fucking good, So in my mind that

(53:36):
that is a nice I remember him being good, but
I don't remember being like jaw on the floor, like
I feel like right now good And so that that
soothed me.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
That he has ten years on me is eleven years
on me.

Speaker 4 (53:47):
He blew up just over the last like four or
five years.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
I can get there and that we're all I'm I'm
on that same trajectory like escalator, but only if I
fucking put the work in, because let me say, this
is the difference between Sebastian and anyone else who's been
doing it as long as him. This guy is obviously
very naturally talented. The amount of work I've been putting
in on my special recently is is indicated to me like, oh, okay,

(54:14):
this is what this is what it takes to be that,
and so it's it's made me realize that this guy
works a lot harder than most people and is and
that's what it takes to be a Taylor Swift. That's
what it takes to be the best at what you do.
Is not just natural talent, it's like it's work. And
I wrote something about him on Instagram the next day,

(54:36):
being like it was so good, you know, on my story,
and he wrote back like a really nice thing about
it's always an honor to have another comedian in the crowd.
And I know Sebastian, like I've no I run into
him at shows and stuff, and I you know, we
don't say for each other's sets. I just know that
he's horrible to follow because it's it's just he's too
he's unfollowable because he's too funny, and everyone just is like, well,
nothing can beat that because it's just it's.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
Too good and it's true.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
But he wrote back, and I wanted to write to him.
I fear for you the next time you see me,
because I am going to be asking so many questions
about everything that your process, like how you do this?
And I will be using masking tape on my fingers
and putting them on a note card later and I
will I will take your water bottle it. Yes, scotch

(55:24):
tape is what about not masking tape. It was scotch
tape in my mind.

Speaker 5 (55:26):
So we could see the disgusting, so we could see
the impregnated with his greasy cells.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
Yes, of the dread, dread juice, dreads.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
Yeah, I just I wrote to I wrote to Did
I write to you, Brian? I wrote to so many people,
like my life has changed. Sebastian is the best the world.
He's so funny. I gotta say, like the live show
of something, I'm gonna fly Chris out. We're gonna go
see him, like I'm gonna find his show again, or
go to the because I think he has a residency

(55:57):
at the Borgata. It is worth the three hundre dollar ticket.
Whatever it is, it's fucking worth it, dude, it is.
It's a show I'll never forget. And I've been to
nine ERA shows and I will remember. I will remember
this one as much as all of those.

Speaker 4 (56:09):
Like it was they put it all together. You know,
he's got he's got the material, he's got the persona.
He says things funny, he acts out things funny, and
it's just like one of these guys that is like
a direct line to your to you laughing. It's not like,
oh I thought about that and it's funny. It's like
you're laughing at just like the aura of what's happening
on stage.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
Yeah, it was. It was just a I don't know, it's.

Speaker 4 (56:34):
Just kind of like Patrice, Like when Patrice steps on stage,
it's just like, when you remember what this guy does,
now it's gonna be funny. His material doesn't even have
to be that good, even though it is. That's what sebassions.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
I listened to Patrise's special in the car on the
way to Atlantic City with with Sean when we were driving,
and it's so fucking good, and I love he actually
has the same argument that I have. I felt very
very much seen because I don't I wouldn't say famously,
but I notoriously don't care if my partner were to

(57:09):
be attracted to other women, have other women be attracted
to him, whatever, And I've always felt weird about that.
But Patrese says that women you should want that, because
men wanting women is like a fisherman and you've got
to go out and fish, and you don't keep every
fish you get. You just want to reel it in
and say I could get this, And you should want

(57:30):
men to want to feel like they still want to fish.
And he says a wife is just a fish that
jumps in your boat after.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
You're trying to release it and just keep stopping back in.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
And then they say you can never fish again, and
this should be enough for you.

Speaker 3 (57:46):
Don't ever fit? Do you don't?

Speaker 1 (57:47):
And he's like, I just want to get it and
then like pose with it, you know, like I just
want to take a picture with my catch. I want
to be able to say I could do it so
that I feel vital and alive. It doesn't mean I'm
gonna And then he has a whole I mean, his
whole thing about we cheat for you I'm trying to
find some happiness without hurting your feelings.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
It's for you. It's so good. Yeah, he's incredible, and
he does that whole special.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
He talks about how he has diabetes and he can't. Yeah,
he talks about food.

Speaker 4 (58:20):
Addiction, taste like his wife. His girlfriend tasted his piss
and it tasted like fruity pebbles, birthday cake or birthday cake. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
Yeah, she was like, honey, you your piss is scrumptious.
He was like, that's love.

Speaker 4 (58:32):
The fact that he only had one special is just
a crime against comedy.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
It is.

Speaker 4 (58:37):
He had his half hour special also. Yeah, but when
he was fully formed and he did Elephant in the Room,
that is the pinnacle of comedy. It cannot be better
than that. And I can't even imagine what we lost.
I mean, the amountain. It's just it's the same thing
with him, with Caralin. It's just like.

Speaker 3 (58:56):
Giraldo Giraldo Hebburg.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
I think of all the little jokes that would are
just not being written because Hedberg's not alive.

Speaker 4 (59:04):
I want to know what their perspective is on what's
happening in the world today. That's what we want to
have all.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
Yes, is that perpective.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
We lost Geraldo right before I guess not right before Trump,
but we lost Carlin and him right before all that.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
It would have been nice.

Speaker 4 (59:18):
Yeah, disaster, but at.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
Least we have insert comedian who never says anything about
anything to listen to. There's so many to choose from, yeah,
but at least we still have that person putting out specially.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
No.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
Yeah, you've got stuff to say.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
And by the way, Brian will be opening for me
coming up in Brea. I think that's the first weekend
in December.

Speaker 4 (59:43):
Yeah, December sixth or something seven.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Yeah, something like that, Yeah, sixth of the day in Brea,
California at the Improv. If you want to come see
me there. I will be at the Tempe Improv this
weekend Thursday and Friday with Pete Lee. Two shows Thursday,
two shows Friday. Just added a Thursday show, I know.
I'm so excited, repeatly, and then I will be in
Portland on Saturday nights, so get those tickets. And we

(01:00:07):
just announced Florida dates. I'll be in Fort Pierce and
Daytona Beach in January. I think it's the twentieth and
twenty fourth or something like that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:16):
You can hear that?

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
No, I don't know what that is.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
Andrew Colin messaged me and said I could stay with
his dad.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
On his farm. Yeah, when I'm doing that gig.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
So maybe I'll do that and see that little donkey
again that we pet. But okay, so yeah, you can
get those tickets. They go on sale Friday, but presale
is on now for both of those shows, and you
just type in good at presale and you get presale
prices for those Florida shows.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
So I'll see you on the road. Thank you for listening. Uh,
don't be Ca and Taylor, do you want to.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
Take this one? It wasn't prepared. Just touch a dread
if you can, but not on a black person. It
just DoD White