November 30, 2021 • 50 mins
Brian takes us back to the very place where it all began, his second home, Scranton, PA. In this super special edition of the podcast, he talks with some of the people who have been on this journey with him since day one, and whose lives have been changed just as much by The Office as his own. So join us on a trip to the home of Dunder Mifflin, where everybody’s arms are always open to The Office family.
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you get your podcasts. Oh my god, that's it right there,
scrant the Electric City. It's been seven years since The
Office Finale aired and we had the Scranting Rap Party here.
I haven't been back since really and exploring anything about
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the Office, I felt like it was important to come
back here to It's not really where it all started,
but it's somehow feels like it's where it all started.
My name is Michelle Dempsey and I'm a co chair
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of the Office Convention in the Office Rap Party. My
name is Tim Holmes. I'm a co chair of the
Office Convention in the Office Rap Party. Hello everybody, and
welcome to a brand new and very close to my
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heart episode of the Office. Deep dive. I am your host,
Brian baum Gartner. Now, I thought we could do something
a little bit different today, all right, something very special.
If you've been following me on Instagram, you know that
I just got back from my book tour, and let
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me tell you it was freaking incredible, all right. I
went all the way back to Scranton, Pennsylvania, the electric City,
the hometown of the office. And I'm not even making
this up. I left Scranton with an honorary certificate in
Scrantology from the University of Scranton. I'm a doctor as
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far as I'm concerned. Yes, I think I am the
only person to have ever been bestowed with such an honor.
So take that everybody else. Uh. Now, as an honorary Scrantonian,
I thought I would take you back to Scranton with
me and introduce you to some of the amazing people
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I have met in the town. I really have not
felt more welcome from any town or any group of
people ever. Scranton has become my second home, and it
is all because of the people. I am so excited
to introduce you to. To such people, the incredible Tim
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Holmes and Michelle Dempsey. These two were responsible for the
Office Convention in two thousand seven and the Rap Party
in two thousand thirteen. If you read our book or
listen to the podcast, you know how special those events were.
Tim and Michelle's love for the show and for their
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town Scratton is so big that they volunteered to co
chair all of these spectacular office events. They have done
an amazing job every single time I have come, and
they have made those experiences extra special, not just for me,
but for everyone else who was there along with the
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rest of the town. They keep the show's legacy going
and I could not be more for so. On this
very special edition of the podcast, please give a warm
Scrantonian welcome to the true keepers of the Office. Tim Holmes,
Michelle Dempsey, and all of the people of Scranton. Bubble
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and Squeak. I love it, Bubble and Squeak, Bubble and
Squeaker cooking at every month. Left over from the night before.
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I was driving down the highway here and we got
off and there was the mural there. I started, no joke,
I started getting emotional when I just like I just
saw the sign, honest to God, when it heard you
were coming. You felt the electricity searched through the city.
Come on, I'm not kidding. Every my phone hasn't stuffer inging.
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I'm sure tim has been the same way it has been.
And everybody and anybody who thinks they might be you
know they it has just been on fire since you're
since your tweet. Yeah, we were trying to keep it
under were like yeah, and then your tree went out.
We're like, okay, it's on Well. John just kind of
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he was because I talked to him yesterday and then
he was like, will you send me a photo? Will
you send me a photo? And I sent John the picture.
And the true story is I like put my phone
in my pocket and then it like buzzes what seems
like fourteen seconds later, and it's I don't know if
you guys remember Steve Sucks. I think he was here
at the rap party. He was like the long time
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stand in, like like he was like Steve stand In,
anyone standing on the show, and and I look at
my I'm like Steve socks and he goes, hey, if
you're with Krasinski telling me it was a hundred dollars
for the fantasy football buy in this year, because he's
like the missioner and like, how does he know with
And then suddenly my phone went like you're with John,
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tell him this you're blah blah blah, and I was like,
oh my god. He posted it like so quickly after
he got his hands on. Yeah. And now, how did
you first find out about the Office? Well? I was
a huge fan of the British version of the Office.
So when I heard that the Office was coming to America, yea.
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And then when I heard was Scranton, I actually panicked.
I was I went, I didn't know the mayor well,
but I like, like march to city Hall, Like this
is not a good thing. This is not a good
because Slough. They're not kind to Slough in that show,
and the mayor was trying to turn Scranton around and
we were on this upswing and and so I thought,
you know, slow was really the road to nowhere in
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that show. And um, and Chris Doherty, who's the mayor
the time, he's like, well, I talked to Greg Daniels
and who's the creator of the American version, and he
said he's you know, it's it'll be different, like he's
going to be good to the city. And I took
a deep breath like, Okay, that sounds good, and I
hope this Greg Daniels is everything he told you he is,
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and like, could I think higher of Greg Daniels, I
don't think so. Like he he meets Granton like another
quirky level character on the show. Right, he captured the
essence of who we are and that you know, to
me is important because it's forever change the perception on
the outside. It finally let people like the perception wasn't
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what the reality was to us, and now they match, right,
Like the perception is the reality. And the Office was
the springboard for that. Like it really had an impact
on Scranton, like huge, And I know we'll talk about
that a little bit, but there's the before the Office
and after the Office for Scranton and for when you
leave Scranton and tell people where you're from. Right, what
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used to happen is like I'd say I'm from Scranton,
people be like, oh, I'm sorry, right right, right, Like really,
And I always I never knew what they were sorry about,
because I always loved to hear and thought it was
a great place. But um, now it's I'm from scrant
It's like I love the Office and it's your instant
bond across the world with everybody, and you'll hear from
all these people the connections in the love and the
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interesting moments that they've had outside of the area telling
people that they're from Scranton, right, And I think there's
a cool story about how Gregg picked Scranton too that
folds into pain. Go ahead, Um so, actually Tim tells
us better than I do. So, so this is Gregg's
words and not ours, and we're obviously paraphrasing, but it
is our understanding that he chose, you know, basically, when
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he's looking where he's going to do a Philosophically speaking,
it's a it's a satellite brand, so it's got to
be a kind of a smaller city. Uh. He felt
it had East Coast sensibility, so he was kind of
looking at the East coast. When he decided the home
office would be in New York City, he began to
look at cities with with our with with with our,
which in might be a two hour driving distance. So
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he looks at scrant Pennsylvania, Stanford, Connecticut, Utica, New York, Nashua,
New Hampshire. These may all sound familiar because they all
wind up being the branches and so, and that's when
he sends out these teams to go check out, and
Johnny Kay happens to be one of them coming into Scranton. So,
you know, from what we understand, there was a lot
of little happy circumstances because it wasn't only pinned paper.
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There was another place here called paper Magic, which is
also a place that John visited, and paper Magic is
the one that had a like Greg remembers getting a
greeting card that had paper paper Magic Scranton p A.
So he kind of had that in mind, you know,
and he's he he did say, you know, he might
have just been being nice to us, but he felt
Scranton was kind of the one to beat because he
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felt it was a big enough name just because of
how big we were during the Industrial Revolution and a
bunch of things, you know, for a little town, we
have a big name, um, you know. And ultimately everything
fell into place and it worked out wonderfully for the show,
for us, for everybody involved. Magic makes all those Valentine's
that used to give out in grades, paper Magic scrant
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p A on the back of all of them, and
he remembered that so it was a confluence of things, right,
and that was one of them. Yes, And he also
thought the name Scranton was a funny thing to say,
and it is. There's a lot of consonants all in
a row, and it works around in your mouth a
little bit. And so that's that was the one thing.
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And if you're from here, you don't pronounce the t
right right, So you so you, um, you were born here.
I was born here. Yeah, So that was how I
heard about the office. And then probably a few years
into the show. I have an architecture firm, and I
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was at work and I opened up my browser and
there was just an article. You know, they all populate.
There was an article about President Idaho getting this little
economic boom from people who were fans of the cult classical,
the cult movie Napoleon Dynamite going there to see all
the sites, like we're the fictional home of Donder Mifflin, right,
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Like that seems like cooler. Um, we should invite everybody
to come here and like have like invite the actors
to come here and see the city and show people
what it's like here and they'd have a great time.
They'd meet with the fans, the city, you know, would
be on displayed be a win win win, which is
what we ultimately that's that's what we ultimately pitched, right
like the win win win, But that's where the idea
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came from. And it literally went nowhere, and this is
where Tim comes and went nowhere. I I met with
like three groups of people until somebody was finally like,
I have to introduce you to Tim Holmes. Right, I
didn't know you. I didn't know each other at all,
which is crazy to think of a time I didn't
know Tim and the homest family, right, uh. And so
we were introduced, and Tim instantly saw the you know,
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he was got it. Yep, all right, here's what we're
gonna do. And then he went into Tim mode right
right right now? Did you know the show? Were you
watching the show? So I was definitely familiar with it,
but I wasn't as immersed in it as Michelle was.
So I certainly saw the value in it, but it
was definitely something that we were all beginning to see
license plates from Ontario and South Carolina and everything driving
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through town that doesn't happen in Scranton, but it began
to happen, and we're all like, yeah, I guess what
you're saying, Michelle is making an awful lot of sense. So,
and like we were doing things. And just to be clear,
Tim worked for the local newspaper and I was an architect.
We had no background and anything like okay, Like like
Tim did planning events locally, right, so he knew how
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to put an event together. But this was going to
be bigger than anything I think you'd ever done, right,
And so here I am an architect and he's a
marketing We come up with this big idea. We got
all these partners on board, I remember at one point.
Then then we had to go through everybody's act like
agents and managers, right, Like everybody I'm calling, I'm like,
don't hello, Hi, I'm representing office convention, right, I'm I'm
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putting together contracts. I'm like, I'm like what am I doing?
Staring at a white piece of paper and like negotiating
like this was crez. We had to do it all right.
It was like Tim and I had to do all
that was completely homegrown, which is exactly why I think
Greg liked it because he could see it wasn't like
some outside group that was coming in and trying to
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monetize this thing. It was not set up to be
a you know, a for profit thing, which is why
you guys gave us a breakown talent fees and you know,
and they helped with travel and all this other kind
of stuff. They could see right from the get go
that it was it was a partnership. The partnership was
with the city of granted, it was with the county,
it was with the visitors Bureau. We weren't selling, you know,
sponsorships where you had to put a shirt on that
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said somebody Sunoco. We were gonna you know, we knew
enough not to do any of that stuff. And I think,
you know, we would have conversations with Vann Park and
the NBC Universal folks, and truly they were kind of
put they were put on the scant. Yeah, they didn't
open the door to the producers of the show and
to Greg and tell what they realized we really had
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something that they're like, Okay, I think these guys have
their stuff together, right, so we're going to now make
this connection. Because we had to dream up the entire
like all the the office Olympic Games. The writer's blocked
like that just came out of our heads, right. That
was like it was maybe about seven or eight of
us that did it. Tucker Has, Matt Smith, you know,
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Eric Dovi and all these guys were building our websites
and everything. Uh, all of that stuff was critical because
they all played a certain role in it. And then
all the partners, the University of scrant and all these
guys tapping into all that. Once we had it all
one of these conference calls. We had already had a
number of them, but I later found out that at
one of the big ones when they were deciding whether
we're in or out, kincibor Neck had told me when
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he came to Scranton that he was listening in on
the one and he just looking to here, if we're
just a bunch of fan girls we're gonna lose our
minds when you guys get to town, or if we're
actually going to hold this together and keep you guys
safe and have it lined up with the University of
s Grand Police and you know in the s Grand
Police and the State police and the Marshall's office, like
Michelle's brother in laws, A he's a worked here down.
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We had all of that, but it's such a small town,
you can do something. And our whole pitch to Greg was,
you know, office fans are are unique. They need to
come together like Allah's Star Trek convention. But it can't
be done in l A. It cannot be done in
New York. It has to be done in Scranton. Because
it was such a part of the show interesting afterwards
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became a more part of the show, which I thought
was interesting because Greg had the foresight to bring the
writers here too. But but I think, but not to
get ahead. I think, so here we have we've like
sort of put this this agenda together. We have this thing.
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had come in like that may to to say, hey,
we're gonna there's gonna be the office convention, like you
sort of generously because at all this could have backfired, right,
kind of put yourselves out in front. But come like
a month before still there was nobody officially signed up
to come to the day that we got our first
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actual country. We were panicking. They're like We're gonna have
a party no matter what. And I remember you called me.
You did, right, Brian, and you called me whe night.
You're like, how's it going, And I was like, well,
you know, it's going pretty well. I'm trying to keep
up the front, like it's come pretty well. You know,
all the plannings seems to be happening. You know, we
got this, that got that, and um, yeah, we just
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you wouldn't have any of the actors yet. And you
said something that made my stomach drop first. He said,
I just want to start by apologizing. I'm just so sorry.
And I was like, I'm like, okay, it's cool. Um
trying to keep up, you know, with the front again.
And You're like, I've talked to my people, and um,
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I can I can only convince thirteen of them. I
think I'm pretty sure. I started crying on the phone, right,
I was like so emotional and all I don't even
know what I said. After that, I just lost it
and I was just like, is that was that? I
knew it was gonna happen. It was gonna be this thing,
and it was going to be unprecedented, you know. That
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was everything that moment to me. With with you on
the phone. It was just too much. It was awesome.
So just to put a timeline on this, so this
is two thousand six, so you're already in season three
at this point. We hosted it in October, late October,
but that was we all remember that day when you're like,
we got twelve now, the beauty of that. So you
may remember that none of the Fab four could make
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it that year, right, So Steve, John, Jenna and uh
and Rain could not make it, you know, just conflicts
and all that other kind of stuff. What we felt
from the very beginning is the actually convention was so
special because it celebrated the ensemble cast. Everybody else was there,
all the writers were there, so it really you know,
we you know, we're glad that we didn't want to distracted.
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Jenny Tan was there, like Danster was there, but we
you know, we were able to build it and get
our around it, you know. And the people who were
they were truly office fans, you know, they weren't four
year old virgin fans. They were office fans. And that
was why that was the first one was so special,
and it was packed. It was packed. I was actually there, yes,
and I thought like it was one of the moments
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to me because I was up in the balcony kind
of looking down and just enjoying it so much. And
each writer told episode that they wrote and and people
were like cheering for the episodes, like I, you know,
I did the baconator with the George Foreming girl that
was Ben failing. And but the cool moment too, was
at the end. First everybody was so into it, but
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then at the end they did a little clip of
a piece of a show that hadn't been seen yet,
and the crowd got to watch it live, and the
actor or the writers later told us they'd never like
they'd never gotten to see the fans watched the show
and get the reaction in real time, and that that
was like a really cool moment for them to hear
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them laughing or they hope they get a laugh and
like just so appreciating the beauty and the joy of it.
You know. Well, I remember, yeah, I remember, I mean
from my side, and I don't even think that I
was aware that it was like a tryout. I remember
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coming there was this brunch and I remember Tim saying, yeah,
you know, this was like for v I p things
and you know, I'm not sure how many people are
going to be there, but you know, then we've got this, this, this,
and Angela and I show up and I don't know
if you remember this, but like something happened and we
were walking into a room that was way over fire
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code capacity of people and us walking in and like
you just like you feel a wave of heat from
bodies just walking into this room, and I like I
remember like my breath like being taken away, like the
where the fuck am I and I could say whatever
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we want. I could say whatever I want and I
and I I mean, I will never I will never forget.
I mean, I will tell you right now. There was
a plan in place of the V I P. And
they were gonna be able to have a picture with us.
And then so many people came and you were like, okay,
so here's the plan. You're gonna go around to each
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table and they were like banquet tables of like ten
or twelve people. You're gonna go around to each table
and you're gonna say hi to each table, and then
they'll take a picture with you, and then you'll move
around to the next table. And what happened was there
were so many people that you you begin, I mean,
this is a percent what happened. People started thinking they're
not going to get to us, like they're gonna leave
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before it's our turn. And so then the plan went
awry and everybody stood up and started just like descending
into this corner. And I had Gen Garrity police officers
police officer Jen Garrity four ft ten and I was
told could take me over her back if she needed
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to body slam me. Um. And I remember I was
taking napkins off the table because it was so hot
and there were so many people, and I was like
white base and she's like her eyes are big, like whoa.
And I turned around to her at one point and
I said, and I, I mean, you have to understand,
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I'm just a theater guy from Atlanta, Georgia. Like this
is I was like, what is going on? I turned
her at one point, I looked, I looked in her
eyes and I said, okay, I just I need I
need to make sure you know you're watching my back
because I feel like I'm going to die. I feel
like I'm not going to make it out of here.
If I know you got my back, we're good. Um.
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And just that whole trip the um, you know, the
roof already and everything. So when we came, you had
this idea to do the convention, and then we came
and was clearly I mean, I feel I feel like
even then it was surpassing your expectation. Were you surprised
by people's reaction or was that had you come to
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know that this was how it was going to be.
I think from your visits we knew if everybody came
it would be something epic. It was even more epic.
It was just beyond like you can't imagine those things, right,
Like even when you try, it's like it's just because
there are so many stories from that visit. So the
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Today Show came right and they filmed live at the
University of Scranton. And then we're realizing that everybody things
actors are like otherworldly and kind of whatever. And because
we had this him and I had this sort of
backstage access, we're realizing, my god, they're just people who
and this is kind of new to them too, right.
So Phil was getting ready with Stanley to go out
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and be interviewed by by All Broker and and when
she came out on the crowd, went insane, insane, insane,
and she got very emotional because she never felt anything
like that. Like she wasn't she one of the people
who helped casting. Yeah, yeah, she she started out in casting,
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wasn't an actor, and Ken Kappas and Greg Daniels and
everybody just thought, well, this is what we're looking for.
We're looking for real people. And yeah, she got cast.
So she was here since she was feeling this reaction
and right she was one of the first famous faces
the kids saw. So like that was you guys had
come on a Thursday night, Friday night, we're about to
go live. It's a three day convention. And again this
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is October two thousand six, season three, so we have
we all stay out way too late Thursday night, so
you guys all come to town birthday. It was Craig Robinson.
So we you know, we say at what was Whistles
Pub back in the day, and we're doing karaoke. It
we just wound up in a wild night. So now
it's we've got to be here at like six in
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the morning because we're going live with local TV stations.
So the students at the University's Granton, about four thousand
of them camped outside, so they are waiting all night
long for this and they are losing their minds. And
so it's when we're pulling, you know, out of the
out of the kind of the staging area. We're pulling
phill Us out of there, she is like, if you remember,
(29:28):
she had like a cane. She had hurt her ankle
that we so she has like this cane and she
has her purse on her arm like she's just like
going to the store. And as we're walking out the door,
it's like, go time. We're gonna be live in about
fifteen seconds, she starts reaching in her purse to get
out of camera to take a picture for her mom. Again,
that's that's the part that she's a regular person, you know,
(29:49):
and so I like grab the camera and I'm like,
I'll take pictures or your mom, you gotta get on
national TV. So it's just those experiences. But everyone, you know,
every one of the folks at Helms is a young guy.
He's never been in the hangover, Like people don't know
who he is. And we have them playing a banjo
at the bog, which is legitimately about three square feet.
(30:11):
So many things that happened but I remember, um, we
were actually in this room, I think I know it
was another building at the and uh we had fireworks
going off and it was another really nice event. But
a gentleman came over to me and he said, are
you Michelle Dempsey? And I said yes, and he's like,
I'm like, who are you? And it was Greg Daniel's dad.
And I was like, and he told me that he
(30:33):
knows like catching my breath right, and he's like, he's like,
I just want to let you know that I've been
to an oscars and I've been to an Emmy's and
you know, I've been a super Bowl. He's like, he's like,
and this is the best party I've ever been to.
This this weekends. Now it was in his son's honor
(30:55):
and like a little right, but but like for us,
I think that moment was like wow, like this did
happen and it came together and people are enjoying it.
And then the letters we got afterwards from the fans
who came that would just melt your heart about how
is the best weekend in the lives or you know
people who came here who you know, we're special needs,
(31:17):
who got to meet their their heroes right like it.
It really was. For some people, they had the best day,
weekend of their lives and script because of the office.
The press was also a great thing. So you talked
about the letters we received and everything, you know, we got.
We were in the China Times like the we got
on the ap wire. It was a sweetheart of a story.
(31:38):
So it was in every newspaper in the nation, you know,
back when people read newspapers. It was in I forget
what paper. But one of them said that it was
like a Star Trek convention with girls. But it just
it was just great group of people. Everybody was happy.
Now fast forward to two thousand thirteen with the Rat Party.
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found out? The show was? Of course bittersweet? Right, it
felt like it had this amazing like if you go
(35:11):
on too long, as like knowing when to end. I
guess it's as important as anything else, right, Um, So
it was like sad, but oh my god, the way
the show ended was so there's not a show in
anywhere in TV history that ended more beautifully in my
personal opinion, than the big endings that you can talk about,
but this was this was fantastic, awesome. So so we
(35:33):
just I think a texted um it's time and you
were like let's go or something. It was like a
real nice little we were both almost like kid met
like the same moment saying we've got it. Take a
deep breath, we're going to do it again. So just
so you know, it didn't that didn't just come out
of thin air. So as we were wrapping up the Sunday,
(35:53):
Greg Daniels, you know, everybody had already gotten off. Greg
was on one of the last flights out of Scranton.
You know, we got to have a moment with him
where we just said, you know, hey, this was awesome.
You're welcome to do this anytime you want to come
on back. If we can't do something like this every
year every year, just at least consider doing a rap
party here, you know, and just instead of going wherever
you would normally go, just get on an airplane party
(36:14):
at thirty thousand feet and let's just do it here.
And instead of this crazy three day thing, let's cram
it into one super awesome day. Because we already knew
once it had started that was way too big and unwieldy.
You know. Just when I went out and it was
Steve Corral he was He's like, I'd love to be
in a parade and screened now here. You have a
big parade, right and you wanted to be in a
(36:35):
coffee cup world best boss. I like, you want a
parade and screen You've got a parade, say the word.
And we did. We had a parade. We had it
all mapped out. It was a perfect, like four block
parade to this awesome thing we had set up right
at Courthouse Square. And everybody is off on the streets
easily twenty people on the streets and just a very
(36:58):
small area and us everything is looking good. I take
a nice little picture of the parade route. We've got
everybody in the beautiful open cars and everything. The first
guy we have going down as Craig Robinson, and he
is on, you know, on the back of his pickup truck,
and he just starts dancing. He's got his arms and
he starts waving the crowd to come in. You're too
far away, come on. That's how it happened. And the
(37:26):
whole the entire length of the parade route all collapsed
on the parade, So we were literally elbowing eighteen year
old girls away from but Steve Carell, we could have
never protected him. It was just again the whole thing
that that evening, and just the the genuine smiles on
the faces of everybody. Yes, the fans could not. I
(37:49):
mean I think they lost their mond, like they couldn't
have if you that is what happiness looks like. That's
what joy looks like. That stadium is like what joy
looks like if you get to see it right, And
and everybody's faces were just lit up like and including Steve's.
He came out and he just you could tell, even
(38:10):
at that level of fame, he genuinely appreciates that those
people were there, you know, to to to to appreciate
the body of work that was created, you know, and
and and you guys as individual actors and you're extreme
and massive talent that brings. I was thinking about the
other night because I went home and I was you know,
(38:31):
it doesn't matter how your day is, you put the
office on and you're gonna smile and you're gonna laugh,
you know. For me, I adopted two boys three years
ago from Kyrgyzstan. So they came over. They spoke Russian
in order of English and um, we were still using translators. Um.
And my older son started watching The Office, probably because
it was in my saved programs, right, and he just
(38:51):
started binging it. And I'm like, well, maybe there's a
little inappropriate here and there, but what's he gonna know? Right,
let him watch it, right, and one I'm sort of
sitting there watching it with him, and he's laughing at
the jokes. He's laughing at all, right, not just the slapstick,
He's laughing at all the right spots. And I'm like,
he can't talk to me yet, but he knows what's
happening here, right, And I'm like, so he probably knows
(39:13):
when I say clean your room too, but like you,
But it was the the appeal was so unique, Like
what is that? I don't know. I can't see it
ever ending because it's just it's timeless. It is timeless. Well, Ken,
today I was talking about I said, what is the
(39:35):
Office done for Scranton? Why is the Office so special?
Or why is that bond there? And he just very
plain spoken, said, well, what is your life and your
career since the office and I said, well, it's completely
(39:56):
and totally changed me and and people's pers option on me.
And he said, yeah, that's that's the town too. And
I can't explain it is it makes no sense to me.
(40:18):
I'm a guy from Georgia that now lives in California,
but the the bond that I feel to this place,
it doesn't make any sense. I am telling you. I
(40:39):
said this when you got here, like you are, your
love is so it's so real, it's so felt by us.
And I think maybe you're you're feeling that genuine love
that people have for you here because it is it's
as real as it as it gets for someone that
you didn't grow up with, who wasn't your family, do
you know what I mean? But they feel your your love,
(41:02):
We feel your love for us a town that wasn't
loved for a long time, right, And you came here
and you're like, I this is this is part of
me now you know, and we get it and we
love it. Yeah. But the two of you and the
initiative you showed, and how respectful you were of the
show as we tried to be of Scranton, your love
(41:26):
of the place, and how hard. I know you were.
The show was a little engine that could terrible ratings.
We were trying to do something new and different. And
you know, my my last impression or memory from the
office convention was, you know, they said yes, but did
(41:51):
they think it was going to be a success. And
all I remember is we had a three day convention,
an NBC sent only one semi truck of merchandise down
and by halfway through the first day everything was gone.
And I think we were under underestimated. You guys were underestimated,
(42:14):
and our fans were underestimated in a way. And you
guys will always have huge love in my heart and
appreciation for the two of you and what what you
did for us. I just want to thank you. That
is wonderful, but we certainly appreciate it. And as we said,
without your connection, it never happens. And uh, we all
(42:35):
pass this way but once and at the you know,
my parents are in a nursing home right now and
they look back and look at the fun times in
their lives. We'll all be doing that soon enough. And
those real connections that you create is all that matters,
you know, And this has been wonderful. I said to
Um to Greg after after I think after the originally commention,
I said, thank you for the rocking chair stories. You know,
(42:58):
these are experienced is and memories. When I'm an old
lady on the rocking chair and the old folks home,
I'll be still be telling people about until they don't
want to hear it anymore. But Mike, it's still good though.
And uh, and so we have these rocking chair stories now,
thanks to the Office, thanks to Greg's risk taking belief
in us. And we always tell people who ask us,
like these characters you love, they deserve your love because
(43:20):
as people through the exact same it's like you are
just salt to the earth. Amazing wonderful people too. And
and so where maybe I'll end it is sort of
what I heard um Steve Carl say to a little
group of people at the rap party. Um, he said,
don't be sad it's over. Be happy it happened. I
(43:40):
don't know. I'm a rocking chair. So I'm gonna feel
about my life too, write And this is something I
always these these events and even these conversations like the
Office gave us this and you just that's priceless. Well,
thank you, guys. So much No, and thank you for
(44:01):
coming and talking to me and being so open and
letting me, letting me come back again. I sopate always welcome.
All right. Wow, that got a little emotional there at
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the end. Thank you Tim and Michelle, I love you.
Thank you for being so open with us, and and
thank you Scranton for always welcoming me home. But before
I wrap this episode up, I just want to give
a shout out to a few of the other folks
who made my last trip to Scranton so special. First,
(44:52):
I want to thank Ken, the limo guy who that's
he's my go to driver in Scranton and always make
sure I get to all of the planned destinations on
time or at least fashionably late. Two Mayor Paige GEPHARDT. Cognetti.
And to the Scranton Police Department, especially my dear old
(45:14):
friend Jen Garrity for keeping us safe. The University of Scranton,
who not only bestowed my new certificate in Scrantology, but
also helped us organize the Q and A and the
book signing for hundreds of students who might I add,
waited for hours in the rain. Thank you to the President,
(45:35):
Reverend Joseph Marina, the executive director of Conferences and Events Services,
Frannie Mancuso, the director of News and Media Relations, stand Sigmunt,
the Vice president for Student Life Bobby Davis, and the
Director of the Center for Health, Education and Wellness, Stephanie Adamack,
who very kindly volunteered to moderate the Q and A.
(45:59):
The bookstore staff Lisa Mikhailo and Wayne Beach who stocked
over a thousand books for us. Also a big thank
you to the students who helped organize the event and
to all the fans who attended. Next my people from
Cooper's Cooper's Seafood House. Big thanks to Jack, Paul, Mark, Ryan,
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the whole gang you open your doors for hundreds of
fans who wanted to get their books signed, including the
bride that I mentioned in the preface of the book.
To Patrick and Billy Nassair, Tony Potas, Eric Miller, the
whole crew at Backyard Ale House for well the most
unforgettable after party ever in the world, where I tended
(46:44):
bar into the wee hours of the night. It is,
without a doubt, my favorite pub in the entire world. Finally,
one more giant thank you to Tim and Michelle and
their families for greeting me with open arms and making
my trips back home to Scranton so special. So everyone listening,
(47:09):
I'm telling you, the next time you're in script, all right,
you have to check out each and every one of
their establishments. Get the full office experience, and you will
get a big Scranton welcome and listen. Just tell him
Brian send you. I hope you all have a fantastic Tuesday.
I will see you next week for another special edition
(47:32):
of the Office Deep Dive. Where are you guys from
Video Texas? Yeah, I literally watched your show at least
twenty times. Great character and I'm about the priory just
because they're loving him. I drove all the way from
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Failing to meet you, and I have an interview in
the morning. Got to get back to it. Our brother
got married at the Redis and when the convention was on,
then you and away downstairs and you take a picture
with him and his wife and our wedding. We actually
walked into the office theme. I have a tattoo of
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you get your podcasts. Oh my god, that's it right there,
scrant the Electric City. It's been seven years since The
Office Finale aired and we had the Scranting Rap Party here.
I haven't been back since really and exploring anything about
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the Office, I felt like it was important to come
back here to It's not really where it all started,
but it's somehow feels like it's where it all started.
My name is Michelle Dempsey and I'm a co chair
(02:16):
of the Office Convention in the Office Rap Party. My
name is Tim Holmes. I'm a co chair of the
Office Convention in the Office Rap Party. Hello everybody, and
welcome to a brand new and very close to my
(02:38):
heart episode of the Office. Deep dive. I am your host,
Brian baum Gartner. Now, I thought we could do something
a little bit different today, all right, something very special.
If you've been following me on Instagram, you know that
I just got back from my book tour, and let
(02:59):
me tell you it was freaking incredible, all right. I
went all the way back to Scranton, Pennsylvania, the electric City,
the hometown of the office. And I'm not even making
this up. I left Scranton with an honorary certificate in
Scrantology from the University of Scranton. I'm a doctor as
(03:24):
far as I'm concerned. Yes, I think I am the
only person to have ever been bestowed with such an honor.
So take that everybody else. Uh. Now, as an honorary Scrantonian,
I thought I would take you back to Scranton with
me and introduce you to some of the amazing people
(03:46):
I have met in the town. I really have not
felt more welcome from any town or any group of
people ever. Scranton has become my second home, and it
is all because of the people. I am so excited
to introduce you to. To such people, the incredible Tim
(04:08):
Holmes and Michelle Dempsey. These two were responsible for the
Office Convention in two thousand seven and the Rap Party
in two thousand thirteen. If you read our book or
listen to the podcast, you know how special those events were.
Tim and Michelle's love for the show and for their
(04:30):
town Scratton is so big that they volunteered to co
chair all of these spectacular office events. They have done
an amazing job every single time I have come, and
they have made those experiences extra special, not just for me,
but for everyone else who was there along with the
(04:53):
rest of the town. They keep the show's legacy going
and I could not be more for so. On this
very special edition of the podcast, please give a warm
Scrantonian welcome to the true keepers of the Office. Tim Holmes,
Michelle Dempsey, and all of the people of Scranton. Bubble
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and Squeak. I love it, Bubble and Squeak, Bubble and
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I was driving down the highway here and we got
off and there was the mural there. I started, no joke,
I started getting emotional when I just like I just
saw the sign, honest to God, when it heard you
were coming. You felt the electricity searched through the city.
Come on, I'm not kidding. Every my phone hasn't stuffer inging.
(06:07):
I'm sure tim has been the same way it has been.
And everybody and anybody who thinks they might be you
know they it has just been on fire since you're
since your tweet. Yeah, we were trying to keep it
under were like yeah, and then your tree went out.
We're like, okay, it's on Well. John just kind of
(06:31):
he was because I talked to him yesterday and then
he was like, will you send me a photo? Will
you send me a photo? And I sent John the picture.
And the true story is I like put my phone
in my pocket and then it like buzzes what seems
like fourteen seconds later, and it's I don't know if
you guys remember Steve Sucks. I think he was here
at the rap party. He was like the long time
(06:54):
stand in, like like he was like Steve stand In,
anyone standing on the show, and and I look at
my I'm like Steve socks and he goes, hey, if
you're with Krasinski telling me it was a hundred dollars
for the fantasy football buy in this year, because he's
like the missioner and like, how does he know with
And then suddenly my phone went like you're with John,
(07:15):
tell him this you're blah blah blah, and I was like,
oh my god. He posted it like so quickly after
he got his hands on. Yeah. And now, how did
you first find out about the Office? Well? I was
a huge fan of the British version of the Office.
So when I heard that the Office was coming to America, yea.
(07:35):
And then when I heard was Scranton, I actually panicked.
I was I went, I didn't know the mayor well,
but I like, like march to city Hall, Like this
is not a good thing. This is not a good
because Slough. They're not kind to Slough in that show,
and the mayor was trying to turn Scranton around and
we were on this upswing and and so I thought,
you know, slow was really the road to nowhere in
(07:56):
that show. And um, and Chris Doherty, who's the mayor
the time, he's like, well, I talked to Greg Daniels
and who's the creator of the American version, and he
said he's you know, it's it'll be different, like he's
going to be good to the city. And I took
a deep breath like, Okay, that sounds good, and I
hope this Greg Daniels is everything he told you he is,
(08:17):
and like, could I think higher of Greg Daniels, I
don't think so. Like he he meets Granton like another
quirky level character on the show. Right, he captured the
essence of who we are and that you know, to
me is important because it's forever change the perception on
the outside. It finally let people like the perception wasn't
(08:39):
what the reality was to us, and now they match, right,
Like the perception is the reality. And the Office was
the springboard for that. Like it really had an impact
on Scranton, like huge, And I know we'll talk about
that a little bit, but there's the before the Office
and after the Office for Scranton and for when you
leave Scranton and tell people where you're from. Right, what
(09:00):
used to happen is like I'd say I'm from Scranton,
people be like, oh, I'm sorry, right right, right, Like really,
And I always I never knew what they were sorry about,
because I always loved to hear and thought it was
a great place. But um, now it's I'm from scrant
It's like I love the Office and it's your instant
bond across the world with everybody, and you'll hear from
all these people the connections in the love and the
(09:22):
interesting moments that they've had outside of the area telling
people that they're from Scranton, right, And I think there's
a cool story about how Gregg picked Scranton too that
folds into pain. Go ahead, Um so, actually Tim tells
us better than I do. So, so this is Gregg's
words and not ours, and we're obviously paraphrasing, but it
is our understanding that he chose, you know, basically, when
(09:45):
he's looking where he's going to do a Philosophically speaking,
it's a it's a satellite brand, so it's got to
be a kind of a smaller city. Uh. He felt
it had East Coast sensibility, so he was kind of
looking at the East coast. When he decided the home
office would be in New York City, he began to
look at cities with with our with with with our,
which in might be a two hour driving distance. So
(10:06):
he looks at scrant Pennsylvania, Stanford, Connecticut, Utica, New York, Nashua,
New Hampshire. These may all sound familiar because they all
wind up being the branches and so, and that's when
he sends out these teams to go check out, and
Johnny Kay happens to be one of them coming into Scranton. So,
you know, from what we understand, there was a lot
of little happy circumstances because it wasn't only pinned paper.
(10:29):
There was another place here called paper Magic, which is
also a place that John visited, and paper Magic is
the one that had a like Greg remembers getting a
greeting card that had paper paper Magic Scranton p A.
So he kind of had that in mind, you know,
and he's he he did say, you know, he might
have just been being nice to us, but he felt
Scranton was kind of the one to beat because he
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felt it was a big enough name just because of
how big we were during the Industrial Revolution and a
bunch of things, you know, for a little town, we
have a big name, um, you know. And ultimately everything
fell into place and it worked out wonderfully for the show,
for us, for everybody involved. Magic makes all those Valentine's
that used to give out in grades, paper Magic scrant
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p A on the back of all of them, and
he remembered that so it was a confluence of things, right,
and that was one of them. Yes, And he also
thought the name Scranton was a funny thing to say,
and it is. There's a lot of consonants all in
a row, and it works around in your mouth a
little bit. And so that's that was the one thing.
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And if you're from here, you don't pronounce the t
right right, So you so you, um, you were born here.
I was born here. Yeah, So that was how I
heard about the office. And then probably a few years
into the show. I have an architecture firm, and I
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was at work and I opened up my browser and
there was just an article. You know, they all populate.
There was an article about President Idaho getting this little
economic boom from people who were fans of the cult classical,
the cult movie Napoleon Dynamite going there to see all
the sites, like we're the fictional home of Donder Mifflin, right,
(12:18):
Like that seems like cooler. Um, we should invite everybody
to come here and like have like invite the actors
to come here and see the city and show people
what it's like here and they'd have a great time.
They'd meet with the fans, the city, you know, would
be on displayed be a win win win, which is
what we ultimately that's that's what we ultimately pitched, right
like the win win win, But that's where the idea
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came from. And it literally went nowhere, and this is
where Tim comes and went nowhere. I I met with
like three groups of people until somebody was finally like,
I have to introduce you to Tim Holmes. Right, I
didn't know you. I didn't know each other at all,
which is crazy to think of a time I didn't
know Tim and the homest family, right, uh. And so
we were introduced, and Tim instantly saw the you know,
(13:03):
he was got it. Yep, all right, here's what we're
gonna do. And then he went into Tim mode right
right right now? Did you know the show? Were you
watching the show? So I was definitely familiar with it,
but I wasn't as immersed in it as Michelle was.
So I certainly saw the value in it, but it
was definitely something that we were all beginning to see
license plates from Ontario and South Carolina and everything driving
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through town that doesn't happen in Scranton, but it began
to happen, and we're all like, yeah, I guess what
you're saying, Michelle is making an awful lot of sense. So,
and like we were doing things. And just to be clear,
Tim worked for the local newspaper and I was an architect.
We had no background and anything like okay, Like like
Tim did planning events locally, right, so he knew how
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to put an event together. But this was going to
be bigger than anything I think you'd ever done, right,
And so here I am an architect and he's a
marketing We come up with this big idea. We got
all these partners on board, I remember at one point.
Then then we had to go through everybody's act like
agents and managers, right, Like everybody I'm calling, I'm like,
don't hello, Hi, I'm representing office convention, right, I'm I'm
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putting together contracts. I'm like, I'm like what am I doing?
Staring at a white piece of paper and like negotiating
like this was crez. We had to do it all right.
It was like Tim and I had to do all
that was completely homegrown, which is exactly why I think
Greg liked it because he could see it wasn't like
some outside group that was coming in and trying to
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monetize this thing. It was not set up to be
a you know, a for profit thing, which is why
you guys gave us a breakown talent fees and you know,
and they helped with travel and all this other kind
of stuff. They could see right from the get go
that it was it was a partnership. The partnership was
with the city of granted, it was with the county,
it was with the visitors Bureau. We weren't selling, you know,
sponsorships where you had to put a shirt on that
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said somebody Sunoco. We were gonna you know, we knew
enough not to do any of that stuff. And I think,
you know, we would have conversations with Vann Park and
the NBC Universal folks, and truly they were kind of
put they were put on the scant. Yeah, they didn't
open the door to the producers of the show and
to Greg and tell what they realized we really had
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something that they're like, Okay, I think these guys have
their stuff together, right, so we're going to now make
this connection. Because we had to dream up the entire
like all the the office Olympic Games. The writer's blocked
like that just came out of our heads, right. That
was like it was maybe about seven or eight of
us that did it. Tucker Has, Matt Smith, you know,
(15:32):
Eric Dovi and all these guys were building our websites
and everything. Uh, all of that stuff was critical because
they all played a certain role in it. And then
all the partners, the University of scrant and all these
guys tapping into all that. Once we had it all
one of these conference calls. We had already had a
number of them, but I later found out that at
one of the big ones when they were deciding whether
we're in or out, kincibor Neck had told me when
(15:54):
he came to Scranton that he was listening in on
the one and he just looking to here, if we're
just a bunch of fan girls we're gonna lose our
minds when you guys get to town, or if we're
actually going to hold this together and keep you guys
safe and have it lined up with the University of
s Grand Police and you know in the s Grand
Police and the State police and the Marshall's office, like
Michelle's brother in laws, A he's a worked here down.
(16:16):
We had all of that, but it's such a small town,
you can do something. And our whole pitch to Greg was,
you know, office fans are are unique. They need to
come together like Allah's Star Trek convention. But it can't
be done in l A. It cannot be done in
New York. It has to be done in Scranton. Because
it was such a part of the show interesting afterwards
(16:37):
became a more part of the show, which I thought
was interesting because Greg had the foresight to bring the
writers here too. But but I think, but not to
get ahead. I think, so here we have we've like
sort of put this this agenda together. We have this thing.
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had come in like that may to to say, hey,
we're gonna there's gonna be the office convention, like you
sort of generously because at all this could have backfired, right,
kind of put yourselves out in front. But come like
a month before still there was nobody officially signed up
to come to the day that we got our first
(21:09):
actual country. We were panicking. They're like We're gonna have
a party no matter what. And I remember you called me.
You did, right, Brian, and you called me whe night.
You're like, how's it going, And I was like, well,
you know, it's going pretty well. I'm trying to keep
up the front, like it's come pretty well. You know,
all the plannings seems to be happening. You know, we
got this, that got that, and um, yeah, we just
(21:29):
you wouldn't have any of the actors yet. And you
said something that made my stomach drop first. He said,
I just want to start by apologizing. I'm just so sorry.
And I was like, I'm like, okay, it's cool. Um
trying to keep up, you know, with the front again.
And You're like, I've talked to my people, and um,
(21:50):
I can I can only convince thirteen of them. I
think I'm pretty sure. I started crying on the phone, right,
I was like so emotional and all I don't even
know what I said. After that, I just lost it
and I was just like, is that was that? I
knew it was gonna happen. It was gonna be this thing,
and it was going to be unprecedented, you know. That
(22:12):
was everything that moment to me. With with you on
the phone. It was just too much. It was awesome.
So just to put a timeline on this, so this
is two thousand six, so you're already in season three
at this point. We hosted it in October, late October,
but that was we all remember that day when you're like,
we got twelve now, the beauty of that. So you
may remember that none of the Fab four could make
(22:33):
it that year, right, So Steve, John, Jenna and uh
and Rain could not make it, you know, just conflicts
and all that other kind of stuff. What we felt
from the very beginning is the actually convention was so
special because it celebrated the ensemble cast. Everybody else was there,
all the writers were there, so it really you know,
we you know, we're glad that we didn't want to distracted.
(22:55):
Jenny Tan was there, like Danster was there, but we
you know, we were able to build it and get
our around it, you know. And the people who were
they were truly office fans, you know, they weren't four
year old virgin fans. They were office fans. And that
was why that was the first one was so special,
and it was packed. It was packed. I was actually there, yes,
and I thought like it was one of the moments
(23:18):
to me because I was up in the balcony kind
of looking down and just enjoying it so much. And
each writer told episode that they wrote and and people
were like cheering for the episodes, like I, you know,
I did the baconator with the George Foreming girl that
was Ben failing. And but the cool moment too, was
at the end. First everybody was so into it, but
(23:38):
then at the end they did a little clip of
a piece of a show that hadn't been seen yet,
and the crowd got to watch it live, and the
actor or the writers later told us they'd never like
they'd never gotten to see the fans watched the show
and get the reaction in real time, and that that
was like a really cool moment for them to hear
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them laughing or they hope they get a laugh and
like just so appreciating the beauty and the joy of it.
You know. Well, I remember, yeah, I remember, I mean
from my side, and I don't even think that I
was aware that it was like a tryout. I remember
(24:20):
coming there was this brunch and I remember Tim saying, yeah,
you know, this was like for v I p things
and you know, I'm not sure how many people are
going to be there, but you know, then we've got this, this, this,
and Angela and I show up and I don't know
if you remember this, but like something happened and we
were walking into a room that was way over fire
(24:42):
code capacity of people and us walking in and like
you just like you feel a wave of heat from
bodies just walking into this room, and I like I
remember like my breath like being taken away, like the
where the fuck am I and I could say whatever
(25:05):
we want. I could say whatever I want and I
and I I mean, I will never I will never forget.
I mean, I will tell you right now. There was
a plan in place of the V I P. And
they were gonna be able to have a picture with us.
And then so many people came and you were like, okay,
so here's the plan. You're gonna go around to each
(25:26):
table and they were like banquet tables of like ten
or twelve people. You're gonna go around to each table
and you're gonna say hi to each table, and then
they'll take a picture with you, and then you'll move
around to the next table. And what happened was there
were so many people that you you begin, I mean,
this is a percent what happened. People started thinking they're
not going to get to us, like they're gonna leave
(25:47):
before it's our turn. And so then the plan went
awry and everybody stood up and started just like descending
into this corner. And I had Gen Garrity police officers
police officer Jen Garrity four ft ten and I was
told could take me over her back if she needed
(26:09):
to body slam me. Um. And I remember I was
taking napkins off the table because it was so hot
and there were so many people, and I was like
white base and she's like her eyes are big, like whoa.
And I turned around to her at one point and
I said, and I, I mean, you have to understand,
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I'm just a theater guy from Atlanta, Georgia. Like this
is I was like, what is going on? I turned
her at one point, I looked, I looked in her
eyes and I said, okay, I just I need I
need to make sure you know you're watching my back
because I feel like I'm going to die. I feel
like I'm not going to make it out of here.
If I know you got my back, we're good. Um.
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And just that whole trip the um, you know, the
roof already and everything. So when we came, you had
this idea to do the convention, and then we came
and was clearly I mean, I feel I feel like
even then it was surpassing your expectation. Were you surprised
by people's reaction or was that had you come to
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know that this was how it was going to be.
I think from your visits we knew if everybody came
it would be something epic. It was even more epic.
It was just beyond like you can't imagine those things, right,
Like even when you try, it's like it's just because
there are so many stories from that visit. So the
(27:39):
Today Show came right and they filmed live at the
University of Scranton. And then we're realizing that everybody things
actors are like otherworldly and kind of whatever. And because
we had this him and I had this sort of
backstage access, we're realizing, my god, they're just people who
and this is kind of new to them too, right.
So Phil was getting ready with Stanley to go out
(28:02):
and be interviewed by by All Broker and and when
she came out on the crowd, went insane, insane, insane,
and she got very emotional because she never felt anything
like that. Like she wasn't she one of the people
who helped casting. Yeah, yeah, she she started out in casting,
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wasn't an actor, and Ken Kappas and Greg Daniels and
everybody just thought, well, this is what we're looking for.
We're looking for real people. And yeah, she got cast.
So she was here since she was feeling this reaction
and right she was one of the first famous faces
the kids saw. So like that was you guys had
come on a Thursday night, Friday night, we're about to
go live. It's a three day convention. And again this
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is October two thousand six, season three, so we have
we all stay out way too late Thursday night, so
you guys all come to town birthday. It was Craig Robinson.
So we you know, we say at what was Whistles
Pub back in the day, and we're doing karaoke. It
we just wound up in a wild night. So now
it's we've got to be here at like six in
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the morning because we're going live with local TV stations.
So the students at the University's Granton, about four thousand
of them camped outside, so they are waiting all night
long for this and they are losing their minds. And
so it's when we're pulling, you know, out of the
out of the kind of the staging area. We're pulling
phill Us out of there, she is like, if you remember,
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she had like a cane. She had hurt her ankle
that we so she has like this cane and she
has her purse on her arm like she's just like
going to the store. And as we're walking out the door,
it's like, go time. We're gonna be live in about
fifteen seconds, she starts reaching in her purse to get
out of camera to take a picture for her mom. Again,
that's that's the part that she's a regular person, you know,
(29:49):
and so I like grab the camera and I'm like,
I'll take pictures or your mom, you gotta get on
national TV. So it's just those experiences. But everyone, you know,
every one of the folks at Helms is a young guy.
He's never been in the hangover, Like people don't know
who he is. And we have them playing a banjo
at the bog, which is legitimately about three square feet.
(30:11):
So many things that happened but I remember, um, we
were actually in this room, I think I know it
was another building at the and uh we had fireworks
going off and it was another really nice event. But
a gentleman came over to me and he said, are
you Michelle Dempsey? And I said yes, and he's like,
I'm like, who are you? And it was Greg Daniel's dad.
And I was like, and he told me that he
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knows like catching my breath right, and he's like, he's like,
I just want to let you know that I've been
to an oscars and I've been to an Emmy's and
you know, I've been a super Bowl. He's like, he's like,
and this is the best party I've ever been to.
This this weekends. Now it was in his son's honor
(30:55):
and like a little right, but but like for us,
I think that moment was like wow, like this did
happen and it came together and people are enjoying it.
And then the letters we got afterwards from the fans
who came that would just melt your heart about how
is the best weekend in the lives or you know
people who came here who you know, we're special needs,
(31:17):
who got to meet their their heroes right like it.
It really was. For some people, they had the best day,
weekend of their lives and script because of the office.
The press was also a great thing. So you talked
about the letters we received and everything, you know, we got.
We were in the China Times like the we got
on the ap wire. It was a sweetheart of a story.
(31:38):
So it was in every newspaper in the nation, you know,
back when people read newspapers. It was in I forget
what paper. But one of them said that it was
like a Star Trek convention with girls. But it just
it was just great group of people. Everybody was happy.
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(35:11):
on too long, as like knowing when to end. I
guess it's as important as anything else, right, Um, So
it was like sad, but oh my god, the way
the show ended was so there's not a show in
anywhere in TV history that ended more beautifully in my
personal opinion, than the big endings that you can talk about,
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just I think a texted um it's time and you
were like let's go or something. It was like a
real nice little we were both almost like kid met
like the same moment saying we've got it. Take a
deep breath, we're going to do it again. So just
so you know, it didn't that didn't just come out
of thin air. So as we were wrapping up the Sunday,
(35:53):
Greg Daniels, you know, everybody had already gotten off. Greg
was on one of the last flights out of Scranton.
You know, we got to have a moment with him
where we just said, you know, hey, this was awesome.
You're welcome to do this anytime you want to come
on back. If we can't do something like this every
year every year, just at least consider doing a rap
party here, you know, and just instead of going wherever
you would normally go, just get on an airplane party
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at thirty thousand feet and let's just do it here.
And instead of this crazy three day thing, let's cram
it into one super awesome day. Because we already knew
once it had started that was way too big and unwieldy.
You know. Just when I went out and it was
Steve Corral he was He's like, I'd love to be
in a parade and screened now here. You have a
big parade, right and you wanted to be in a
(36:35):
coffee cup world best boss. I like, you want a
parade and screen You've got a parade, say the word.
And we did. We had a parade. We had it
all mapped out. It was a perfect, like four block
parade to this awesome thing we had set up right
at Courthouse Square. And everybody is off on the streets
easily twenty people on the streets and just a very
(36:58):
small area and us everything is looking good. I take
a nice little picture of the parade route. We've got
everybody in the beautiful open cars and everything. The first
guy we have going down as Craig Robinson, and he
is on, you know, on the back of his pickup truck,
and he just starts dancing. He's got his arms and
he starts waving the crowd to come in. You're too
far away, come on. That's how it happened. And the
(37:26):
whole the entire length of the parade route all collapsed
on the parade, So we were literally elbowing eighteen year
old girls away from but Steve Carell, we could have
never protected him. It was just again the whole thing
that that evening, and just the the genuine smiles on
the faces of everybody. Yes, the fans could not. I
(37:49):
mean I think they lost their mond, like they couldn't
have if you that is what happiness looks like. That's
what joy looks like. That stadium is like what joy
looks like if you get to see it right, And
and everybody's faces were just lit up like and including Steve's.
He came out and he just you could tell, even
(38:10):
at that level of fame, he genuinely appreciates that those
people were there, you know, to to to to appreciate
the body of work that was created, you know, and
and and you guys as individual actors and you're extreme
and massive talent that brings. I was thinking about the
other night because I went home and I was you know,
(38:31):
it doesn't matter how your day is, you put the
office on and you're gonna smile and you're gonna laugh,
you know. For me, I adopted two boys three years
ago from Kyrgyzstan. So they came over. They spoke Russian
in order of English and um, we were still using translators. Um.
And my older son started watching The Office, probably because
it was in my saved programs, right, and he just
(38:51):
started binging it. And I'm like, well, maybe there's a
little inappropriate here and there, but what's he gonna know? Right,
let him watch it, right, and one I'm sort of
sitting there watching it with him, and he's laughing at
the jokes. He's laughing at all, right, not just the slapstick,
He's laughing at all the right spots. And I'm like,
he can't talk to me yet, but he knows what's
happening here, right, And I'm like, so he probably knows
(39:13):
when I say clean your room too, but like you,
But it was the the appeal was so unique, Like
what is that? I don't know. I can't see it
ever ending because it's just it's timeless. It is timeless. Well, Ken,
today I was talking about I said, what is the
(39:35):
Office done for Scranton? Why is the Office so special?
Or why is that bond there? And he just very
plain spoken, said, well, what is your life and your
career since the office and I said, well, it's completely
(39:56):
and totally changed me and and people's pers option on me.
And he said, yeah, that's that's the town too. And
I can't explain it is it makes no sense to me.
(40:18):
I'm a guy from Georgia that now lives in California,
but the the bond that I feel to this place,
it doesn't make any sense. I am telling you. I
(40:39):
said this when you got here, like you are, your
love is so it's so real, it's so felt by us.
And I think maybe you're you're feeling that genuine love
that people have for you here because it is it's
as real as it as it gets for someone that
you didn't grow up with, who wasn't your family, do
you know what I mean? But they feel your your love,
(41:02):
We feel your love for us a town that wasn't
loved for a long time, right, And you came here
and you're like, I this is this is part of
me now you know, and we get it and we
love it. Yeah. But the two of you and the
initiative you showed, and how respectful you were of the
show as we tried to be of Scranton, your love
(41:26):
of the place, and how hard. I know you were.
The show was a little engine that could terrible ratings.
We were trying to do something new and different. And
you know, my my last impression or memory from the
office convention was, you know, they said yes, but did
(41:51):
they think it was going to be a success. And
all I remember is we had a three day convention,
an NBC sent only one semi truck of merchandise down
and by halfway through the first day everything was gone.
And I think we were under underestimated. You guys were underestimated,
(42:14):
and our fans were underestimated in a way. And you
guys will always have huge love in my heart and
appreciation for the two of you and what what you
did for us. I just want to thank you. That
is wonderful, but we certainly appreciate it. And as we said,
without your connection, it never happens. And uh, we all
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pass this way but once and at the you know,
my parents are in a nursing home right now and
they look back and look at the fun times in
their lives. We'll all be doing that soon enough. And
those real connections that you create is all that matters,
you know, And this has been wonderful. I said to
Um to Greg after after I think after the originally commention,
I said, thank you for the rocking chair stories. You know,
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these are experienced is and memories. When I'm an old
lady on the rocking chair and the old folks home,
I'll be still be telling people about until they don't
want to hear it anymore. But Mike, it's still good though.
And uh, and so we have these rocking chair stories now,
thanks to the Office, thanks to Greg's risk taking belief
in us. And we always tell people who ask us,
like these characters you love, they deserve your love because
(43:20):
as people through the exact same it's like you are
just salt to the earth. Amazing wonderful people too. And
and so where maybe I'll end it is sort of
what I heard um Steve Carl say to a little
group of people at the rap party. Um, he said,
don't be sad it's over. Be happy it happened. I
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don't know. I'm a rocking chair. So I'm gonna feel
about my life too, write And this is something I
always these these events and even these conversations like the
Office gave us this and you just that's priceless. Well,
thank you, guys. So much No, and thank you for
(44:01):
coming and talking to me and being so open and
letting me, letting me come back again. I sopate always welcome.
All right. Wow, that got a little emotional there at
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the end. Thank you Tim and Michelle, I love you.
Thank you for being so open with us, and and
thank you Scranton for always welcoming me home. But before
I wrap this episode up, I just want to give
a shout out to a few of the other folks
who made my last trip to Scranton so special. First,
(44:52):
I want to thank Ken, the limo guy who that's
he's my go to driver in Scranton and always make
sure I get to all of the planned destinations on
time or at least fashionably late. Two Mayor Paige GEPHARDT. Cognetti.
And to the Scranton Police Department, especially my dear old
(45:14):
friend Jen Garrity for keeping us safe. The University of Scranton,
who not only bestowed my new certificate in Scrantology, but
also helped us organize the Q and A and the
book signing for hundreds of students who might I add,
waited for hours in the rain. Thank you to the President,
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Reverend Joseph Marina, the executive director of Conferences and Events Services,
Frannie Mancuso, the director of News and Media Relations, stand Sigmunt,
the Vice president for Student Life Bobby Davis, and the
Director of the Center for Health, Education and Wellness, Stephanie Adamack,
who very kindly volunteered to moderate the Q and A.
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The bookstore staff Lisa Mikhailo and Wayne Beach who stocked
over a thousand books for us. Also a big thank
you to the students who helped organize the event and
to all the fans who attended. Next my people from
Cooper's Cooper's Seafood House. Big thanks to Jack, Paul, Mark, Ryan,
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the whole gang you open your doors for hundreds of
fans who wanted to get their books signed, including the
bride that I mentioned in the preface of the book.
To Patrick and Billy Nassair, Tony Potas, Eric Miller, the
whole crew at Backyard Ale House for well the most
unforgettable after party ever in the world, where I tended
(46:44):
bar into the wee hours of the night. It is,
without a doubt, my favorite pub in the entire world. Finally,
one more giant thank you to Tim and Michelle and
their families for greeting me with open arms and making
my trips back home to Scranton so special. So everyone listening,
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I'm telling you, the next time you're in script, all right,
you have to check out each and every one of
their establishments. Get the full office experience, and you will
get a big Scranton welcome and listen. Just tell him
Brian send you. I hope you all have a fantastic Tuesday.
I will see you next week for another special edition
(47:32):
of the Office Deep Dive. Where are you guys from
Video Texas? Yeah, I literally watched your show at least
twenty times. Great character and I'm about the priory just
because they're loving him. I drove all the way from
(47:52):
Failing to meet you, and I have an interview in
the morning. Got to get back to it. Our brother
got married at the Redis and when the convention was on,
then you and away downstairs and you take a picture
with him and his wife and our wedding. We actually
walked into the office theme. I have a tattoo of
Jim Helper when he addresses this. My mom would not
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