February 27, 2025 • 27 mins
In this episode of The Yellowstone Official Podcast, Bobby Bones interviews key figures from the show. Kevin Costner discusses his decision to leave after five seasons and his thoughts on the show's legacy. Lainey Wilson talks about her role as Abby, created specifically for her by Taylor Sheridan, and her growth as an actress. Ryan Bingham shares his journey from meeting Taylor Sheridan to becoming a fan-favorite character, Walker. Jackson Dean reflects on the role of his music in the show and the personal connections he's made with fans. Tune in for a deep dive into the stars of Yellowstone and the impact the show has had on their careers.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Episode six of the Official Yellowstone Podcast. It's me Bobby Bones.
First of all, I want to thank everybody for listening.
I want to thank all of our guests that have
come on so far, and thank you guys for listening
and sharing and giving positive reviews. Through the first five episodes,
we didn't know what we were doing. We just knew
we loved Yellowstone. So we really appreciate everything that you
guys have done for us, and please continue sharing. Now
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on this episode, I'm gonna talk to people that have
played pivotal roles on the show, like Kevin Costner, and
then people who have made a lot of music for
the show like Jackson Dean. We'll even check in with
Laney Wilson and Ryan Bingham, who obviously is a character
on the show and in Texas Country is a force
as well. Now, first up, we're gonna start with Kevin Costner.
Spoiler alert, he is not in the final season. Not really.
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I mean, his spirit is, and it's very much about him,
but he's not in it. You probably saw it in
the news, so I talked with him. I asked him,
how long did you know that you were leaving before
you announced that you were leaving.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
You know, I was hoping that we could continue. I
was I really love that show. I mean I was
going to do one season. I did five, and in
the end I needed to work more than twice a year,
more than once a year. I wanted to, and I
made sure that how I was going to do that
would work, that Yellowstone would have a first position. I
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would handle Yellowstone's business, and then I went go do
my own. But eventually that even became something that just
for whatever reason, couldn't happen. And when I realized that,
I knew that, then I would just go forward. And
so it was just about three days before I just
decided to make that announcement. It's like I didn't want
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people guessing about my life. I will say this, in life,
anything is possible. But I wanted to just make it final.
I'm not going to do Yellowstone if something changes traumatically
for whatever reason, you know my mind, my heart's open
to anything. But I'm done with that show at this
point and I'm not thinking about it. I'm not willing
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it to come back. It has marked me. It's something
that I love that audience has rallied around. It was
a I thought it would work. And that's what I
love about when people decide they'll see hat filled the
McCoys or that I've just I've judged that it has
an entertainment value, and people who have followed me my career.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I really want to honor that.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
You don't have a dislike for Yellowstone, you just have
more of a love for what you wanted to do.
As well as that.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
To Yellowstone, I have a healthy love of what it's
done for me, what it did for a lot of people,
what it did for the audiences that are willing to
follow me. No one knew about Yellowstone. I decided I
would do it. I went out over to Europe and
sold it. I was the only guy over there saying, yeah,
I think.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
This will be good.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I love that show and not like love. But there's
a moment in time where you, I think you nail it.
You have to be able to go forward in my life.
I don't want to close doors, but I also want
to be able to shut them in a way that's meaningful.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Next up country superstar and my friend Laney Wilson. Laney
has had numerous songs on the show and even found
herself in a pretty big role So here is Laney
Wilson talking about being casted for the show and how
it all came.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
About funny stories. I auditioned back in twenty twenty for
another role, like I sent in a video of me,
and I even went and read some of my lines
in front of Taylor Sheridan because I was out in
Montana when they were filming, just about to do like
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a little private show for it, or.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
You were there already while they were there, so I
was like, I'm into Taylor shared it, yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
And I was like, hey, like, I just got this brief,
you know, if you want me to read you my lines?
And I did terrible, Like real bad?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Are you saying that though? Because it's you.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
No, no, no no. Me and Taylor are friends enough
now to where if I asked him about that first experience,
I promised you he would say it was not good.
But I left there that day thinking maybe that opportunity
is gone. But they kept putting my songs in the show,
and then one night he texted me and just said
I got an idea. He said, I'm gonna call you
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in a minute. And then he calls and says, I'm
gonna create a character specifically for you, and you'll go
by Abby and you could still wear what you wear
and sing your own songs and pretty much be yourself
and go by a different name. And that's how that happened.
So he created the character.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
How nervous were you the first time you had to
actually act with other actors? Terrified?
Speaker 4 (04:56):
It was like I thought I was gonna throw up,
And it was with Beth Kelly Riley. I'm like, of course,
that's gonna be my first scene. But she made me
feel comfortable. She actually ended up being one of the
sweetest people on the show.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Isn't it funny how that works her character. You're like, man,
she's such a ba and she's awesome, but on that
show you're like, I wouldn't cross her, and then she
ends up being like awesome and with an accent in
real life too.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
No, she's she is truly the best, and I feel
like too. I got to stay inside stage and watch
her how she would get into her character, and she
would not break her character until the evening when it
was over.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
So she was method ish, acting like yes, when the
evening had she's not at dinner after the still being Beth,
but all during the workday. She did not leave the
Beath character.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Yeah, it was one of those things where if she
was like in a scene and then I show up
and I'm getting ready to film my part, like Kelly
during a time that is not filming, she would just
be hugging everybody and asking how everybody's family's doing, and
like catching up but dearing her work the chit chat
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and can wait till after you know what I'm saying,
Like she is in it, She's there to do a job.
And I watched her. I was like, because I bet
little things like that can throw you off your game,
especially for a character like she.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Has well compared to that to your music career though,
and a show when it's time you're fifteen twenty minutes
out all during Yeah, like you got to commit, like
no dicking around, Yes, because people just paid a bunch
of money to watch you do a show. The same
way people are like spending their time or they're paying
her to do the job. You're just doing it in
a different one.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Hundred percent, and one little thing can throw you off
your game. The other day in Vegas, I was putting
on these I should have tried this outfit on before
I went out to Vegas.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I put them on.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
They split like up the front, and then my whole
outfit was just ruined. I'm like, and then you're scrambling
trying to figure out okay, oh my gosh, do I
have anything that I like? Those kind of things right there.
It's about being prepared and just like keeping your head
in a game.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Was it pretty cool to go back without any spoilers?
Was it pretty cool to go back and see everybody again? Yes?
It was great.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
I didn't get to see the whole cast because I
pretty much just had, you know, one one like big scene.
But I can't say anything else because I feel like
I'm gonna tell to.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
You there's almost nothing else to say that you can say. Yeah,
does that make you want? I don't know. Have you
been auditioning your stuff? I have people called I don't
know what you're Are you at all trying to do more?
Speaker 4 (07:33):
I am definitely like open to the opportunities. I really
loved it, so I'm excited to see what we do
next with it.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Maybe it's a character.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
That's not a musician.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
What if you do like cartoon voiceover?
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Like well, I have done a couple things like that.
I would love to do that. If you need a
redneck cartoon, I got you.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Next up, it's Ryan Bingham, who plays Walker on Yellowstone.
Walker was introduced in season one. Now, this is Ryan
from just a bit ago. He came on my show
to tell a story about how he was casted by
Taylor Sheridan and a few other things. Awesome musician alone,
just music wise, he's amazing and you probably know that
from watching him sing on the show. But check out
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Ryan Bingham's music as well. If you haven't, you probably have,
but here he is Ryan Bingham. You come into the
show and you're walking out of prison and Rip comes
and picks you up from prison, and you've been in
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prison for what popping somebody in a bar fight in
him dying. Isn't that the greatest good guy coming from
prison murder story?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Ever?
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Like, you can't dislike you coming, you know, with the start,
even though you were a convicted murderer.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Right, Yeah, it's a heck of the story. I'm sure
I really enjoyed working on this show.
Speaker 6 (09:12):
And now it was quite an introduction there from the
start when.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
The show started they already have you cast, meaning as
they were doing all production, because you came in just
a bit later, or do they cast you once it
was already kind of going.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
They cast me once it was already going. I met
Taylor Shardan, the writer and director, maybe a year or
two prior to this. He wrote and directed a film
called Wynn River, and he had contacted me then about
writing a song for that movie.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
And I never really came up with anything. That's stuck,
And whenever this show came around, he contacted me about
writing some.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Songs for the show.
Speaker 7 (09:47):
And then he found out that I could ride horses and.
Speaker 6 (09:50):
I used to rodeo, and he said, shoot, we got
to write you into this show.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
And he said, I.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
Don't know if you figures and who came up with
the character of Walker, and we basically we'll see how
it does do good, then we'll keep you on. And
he said, we'll just kill you off.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
That's easy. That's pretty crazy too, that you weren't in
the original conception of the show, but they liked what
you did so much and you had the skill set
that they wrote you in. Do you get to keep
the clothes that your character wears?
Speaker 7 (10:19):
Ryan, Yeah, a lot of the clothes I brought myself.
Speaker 6 (10:23):
And I don't get to keep all the clothes bring
all of the jackets and things like that in. But
like my hat and my boots and my games and stuff.
Speaker 7 (10:32):
I just brought my shelves.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
So the hat that you wear, which is a bit
different from the rest, a little taller, So you brought
that in yourself. Yeah, I did. In one of the
first episodes, you have your guitar with you, you pull it out,
you just start playing. I'm watching because I play a
little bit, and I'm like, you didn't even tune that guitar.
Now do you ever struggle with going, Hey, guys, I
would pull this out and I'd actually probably tune it
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a little bit before I would start singing. Or do
you just let it rip because it's TV.
Speaker 7 (10:57):
I just let it go. I I first started playing
the guitar, and I was going to be playing in
a lot of bars that were just like that.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
After the rodeo, friends of mine would drag me over
to the bar, we'd get my guitar out of the truck,
and I was going in and play, and probably nine
times out of ten, I was out of chain. I
just said, I for it to be authentic, Walker would
probably be out of chain playing the guitar somewhere around
the campfire, so I just let it roll.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Hey, what about someone like Beth that she plays Bet
on the show, but she's British in real life? Does
she talk in a British accent when you guys aren't shooting?
And is that weird?
Speaker 6 (11:31):
She does?
Speaker 7 (11:33):
One of the sweetest, one of the most nice person
I've ever met, And it is my very first scene
on the show was with her, and I hadn't met
her before, but I had seen some of the other
episodes and I had.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
No idea really who she was, and then our first
scene was together and she's this very tough woman, and
then afterwards we ended up hanging out. It's like drinking
a cup of tea, and she was very sweet, very
nice and surprise, but.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
She speaks British because she plays that character so well
so well. Of all the cast, wh would you say
is your best friend that you hang out with the
most Of all the guys that we'd see on camera.
Speaker 7 (12:09):
I really like everybody.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
Jefferson is one guy for sure, Big plays Jimmy. I
really enjoy hanging out with Jets on side stage. He's
just always has these very kind of insideful things to say,
But everybody is really great to work with and be around.
And for someone like me to be relatively new to
the game as far as the acting goes, it's great
to be around such kind of the season actresses and actress.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
So I really enjoyed that you haven't been hurt on
set by horse or falling off a horse, have you.
Speaker 6 (12:40):
No, Surprisingly not that Rip's a pretty tough guy, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, I appreciate the time, man. I. You know, I'd
never been to Montanna. I was just up there for
a few days shooting some stuff and we had no
cell service for days. We were deep in the mountains
and for me that was a different kind of of
outdoor experience. That's a pretty cool place to shoot.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
Yeah, it's a beautiful play And big thanks to all
the local folks here in Montana as well for putting up.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
With us while we're here.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
It's a beautiful spot and it's had a very warm
welcome from people here. Yeah, it's a very special opportunity,
you know.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
For work up here.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Ryan, good to talk to you, Thank you all right,
see it Ryan last up as country star Jackson. Dene
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Jackson has made a lot of music for the show
and just makes awesome music in general. Support him if
you love him. I do. An eccentric guy, but no
doubt a Yellowstone faithful as pure with country music as
it gets, and the guy takes some real chances. You
can see Jackson Dene at the Jackson Dene here. He
is been on Yellowstone a lot. Here is Jackson Dene.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
No.
Speaker 8 (14:09):
Yellowstone found us via my agent out in LA who
actually babysat me when I was a kid.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Is very funny.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Your agent baby sat you.
Speaker 8 (14:18):
Yeah, man, she's from the same area and it is funny.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
But she went to school with my brothers. They were
ten years older than me.
Speaker 8 (14:25):
But yeah, she started working for w ME and I
didn't even really know her until we started working together,
which was funny. But yeah, man, they called and just
have been fortunate enough to hang around in the scene
a little bit and turn some years, you know. But yeah, man,
they've been very good to me.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
So your babysitter helped you get on Yellowstone. Let's just
put this all together here, Jackson. And when they come
to you do they say, hey, we have for example,
still Raging was on Yellowstone. And when they say hey,
we have a scene and we want this or do
they just go, hey, we love this song, can we
use this song? And they place it wherever they want.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
They loved the song, they did with it what they will.
Speaker 8 (15:07):
They do a really great job with the score over
there and getting songs in it. And we spent a
lot of time with Mss andreavm Forrester and got tight
with her, and just any chance to be a part
of the score is a great thing.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
What I like about Yellowstone is there are a lot
of people that romanticize we'll call it the cowboy life,
even though it's a bit more than just the cowboy life,
but they romanticize that because it's a fun show to watch.
And you know, me, growing up in Arkansas, I had
a lot of family that they were like semi cowboys,
Like they had horses and they raised horses, they rode horses.
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They weren't full cowboy on a ranch, but there definitely
were I would like like hillbilly cowboy difference, like you're
like real, You're like a real cowboy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Country living would be good, although I'd say I'm on
a little trailer park trash at the same time. And again,
it all kind of is in the same circle, but
not exactly the same. I would imagine that this show
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it's easy to say yes to, where if you know,
other shows maybe not, like an alien show, probably wouldn't
be so easy to say yes to put your music on.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Man, I'd say yes, yeah, bring it on.
Speaker 8 (16:16):
But no, Man, We've been traveling all across the globe
taking this way of life to people, and then people
come to the shows. Dude, you see that people want
a piece of it, you know. And it's not been
a long time since great westerns were made, but people
love westerns. Dude. Me and my days watch westerns all
the time when I was a kid. To have cinema.
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Coming back to that a little bit, cousters do a
little bit with horizon and all that.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
It's really great to see.
Speaker 8 (16:42):
But like taking our lifestyle to the people and just
it's a great way to live. I'm out here in
the country. I'm on the edge of two hundreds of nothing.
It's a beautiful, beautiful life to live, and I think
people want a piece of that, and something that presents
that in good fashion is incredibly important.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
What would be the biggest ranch you would want, because
again with the ranch with land there's a lot of work.
What do you what's maximum for you?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Maximum?
Speaker 8 (17:11):
Okay, realistically, I've heard the ten acre homestead thing, and
i've heard the forty you know, and I love, I
love as much as I could get and put a
fortress on that thing, of course, but it's hard to
do that when you're doing one hundred and twenty a year.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
But yeah, man, I would love to one day, but
too busy right now.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
What would you name the ranch? You gotta have a
cool name.
Speaker 8 (17:33):
I named a few things in my personal life after
my dog, like a couple of things here and there.
The name's Elk, and I always liked we use the thing.
I think our sign and out front down the driveway
is Elk River Lane, just stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
But yeah, probably Elk River Ranch or something like that.
Don't come looking. Was back on Yellowstone in twenty twenty one.
That song blew up ended up being your first number one.
Did that episode and that song that did that help
with some of the early momentum.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 8 (18:03):
Yeah, I have so many people come up to me
and meet and greets and whatnot. They go, my god, man,
we found you on Nielstone.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
We love it.
Speaker 8 (18:09):
Brought us to your whole discography and brought us to
some of your new music, and that stuff is so
helpful and real.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Man. Yeah, a lot of people came to us, and
I'm like, we found it here.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Did they come to you and say, hey, anytime you
have a song that you think might work, send it
to us. Or are they just always monitoring like I
do anything? Jacksondine puts out.
Speaker 8 (18:31):
They try to stay in loop. They got a lot
of people to a lot of people to choose from.
I'm just extremely grateful that they chose us to use,
but now they're constantly monitoring.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
It's funny. Timing is truly everything.
Speaker 8 (18:42):
Sometimes you play a song for somebody wants and then
you play it for him again six months later, and
they're like, what is that? They're just not ready for
it to hit them yet. And then you can be like, man,
there's a couple of songs off of this record, on
the Back of My Dreams that are like, right up
that alli have used this transit and get from A
to B.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
But sometimes it just didn't hit you at the proper moment.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Yellowstone is a show that at its core is just
about family and family looking out for each other and
at times sometimes they go with your family, but they're
still your family. You credit inspiration for your early songs
to your older brother while he was at sea. Why
was he such a big inspiration to you?
Speaker 8 (19:21):
They both were. There's twins. They are not identical new
they both were man in terms of they're your older brothers.
How could they not be. But Kyle, my oldest brother,
went and sailed for I don't know, eight nine years.
He worked out of Eastport and Annapolis for a while,
and he's working for my old man now running a
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business and whatnot. But he wanted his intensity and his
glory and he went and got it. He went and sailed.
He went and sailed the seas for it. I don't
know how many times he's got stuck in storms and
off the golf and between running ground. And he's a
man to be a mind for sure. But yeah, man,
I wrote a lot about them. I wrote about Cody,
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my other brother. But yeah, man, there's incredibly inspiring.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
If Yellowstone call it's and hey we got a roll
for you, come on, what would it be? Yeah? No,
what would you do it?
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Okay? Good?
Speaker 7 (20:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (20:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely I do it.
Speaker 8 (20:19):
I don't think they're ready for a merciless righteous man
to come and slit throats, which is what I would
want it to be.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
But yeah, I do it in a heartbeat.
Speaker 8 (20:28):
I think it'd be a lot of fun and getting
like getting to work with people like Sean Hagwell and
even Robbie who's sitting right over there capturing things well
and capturing on video making it cinematic.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I think it would be really.
Speaker 8 (20:44):
Fun to casture some stuff with them and it'll be
really really awesome.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Douc te part on the season finale, Tell me about
the song first, and then I after that just kind
of answer, do they send you a screener to let
you know and let you see your song in a
scene or.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
No, I've had it and I've not had it other times.
Speaker 8 (21:02):
You know. Like I said, we're just grateful to be
there and be even thought about. But duct tape, man,
Oh my gosh, it's so fun. It's so fun. That's
me Case Bethard and Luke Dick and that's just a
little fun. Yeah, old country blues song. It's one of
those ones where you're just like, all right, boys, fired up,
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we're going to groove. And it was just so fun
to write. I mean, I've written with Casey and Luke
both one hundred times and four and I've written some
good songs with Casey, but that was I think that
was the first one we cut of Casey, and it
was really meat.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Back you did so you took some time off, you
came back like you do your own thing. I think
that's probably why I like just talking to you and
like hearing what you have to say, because you definitely
do your own freaking thing. And I feel like at
times when I've done my own thing, people are like, man,
that dude's weird, or that dude he's tough to work. Well,
talk about me, not you, But it's like I always
feel like if I do my own thing, I take
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my own time, like my stuff's gonna be better in
my mind right, Like I'm more fulfilled whenever I have
I'm charged, and I need to get charged in different ways.
And I feel like you're a bit of the same
type of person, Like if you're not ready, you're gonna go,
and you're gonna get ready in charge, and then you're
gonna go absolutely as hard as you possibly can once
you're ready. Accuracy to that or no.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Accurate, accurate, big accuracy there.
Speaker 8 (22:22):
If you can't, if you can't put it in the tank,
you can't give it.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
You feel like people think at times it's like, man,
Jackson Dean, is he quiet or is he like stand
office or is he like like so serious? Like again,
I'm lucky. I know you. I'd hang out with you.
I love you, But I gotta feel like sometimes people like, man,
is that guy so serious? Do you deal with that? Sometimes?
Speaker 8 (22:44):
Sometimes and then they spend about two minutes with me
and then we're laughing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it usually isn't
too long a problem.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
How many hat protectors and you fly when you travel
in the okay, still cowboy hat case. How many you
take with you to protect your hats?
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Not a single one? Not a single one.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
I let's say, a pretty nice hat. I need to
protect it, I think, mm hmm.
Speaker 8 (23:08):
See the way I figured it, the more life that
it gets to absorb, the more living you do in it,
the better it's going to shape to your head. The
more what's the word I'm looking for, the better the
patina is going to be.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Now, me, i'd be like, I w'll just need to
get dirty because I need to look legit. But see,
you don't worry about that. You just go and do you.
I am a narcissistic fool, and I would need to
look perfect in my hat. I need to iron it
every night. I bet you don't even do that, do you.
I don't think so. Yeah, I knew you didn't. Don't
worry about that. I know you didn't. Okay, two questions left?
If you were to work on the big Yellowstone ranch,
because I know your history of having a lot of
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real life jobs. I've had a few real life jobs myself.
What do you think your job would be on the ranch?
What would you excel at?
Speaker 7 (23:48):
Man?
Speaker 3 (23:49):
I thought always be cool to bridge my day to
day manager.
Speaker 8 (23:54):
Here is dad's a farrier and he shoes horses for
a living, and that's hard labor.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
But his dad's hands are like.
Speaker 8 (24:01):
Twice the sickness of mind, and like his pinky finger
is like these two fingers wild. That's some hard work
right there. But I think it'd be interesting to do
that for a minute. I've just seen how he's lived
his life, and they fly him all over all over
the country to go.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Shoot horses and whatnot, and it's just.
Speaker 8 (24:20):
Like you got like six rigs up and down the
East Coast, dude, like you're rocking and rolling. Man, It's
it's hard work, you know, in a dying breed and
dying profession.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
But yeah, yeah, last thing I'm gonna ask of you
give me a quick story about don't come looking. It
can be like the first time you played it, the
first time you played when everybody's sang back, this is
the first number one for you. Give me something about
this song.
Speaker 8 (24:43):
Absolutely, first time I ever really heard him sing it back.
And it wasn't just this one that they sang back.
It was Traylor Parker feelss don't take much wings.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
All my stuff.
Speaker 8 (24:56):
I was in Spokane in this little it was like
a six hundred person shack and it looked like it
was like a two hundred person shack on the outside.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Maybe one of.
Speaker 8 (25:07):
The hottest shows I ever played in my life. Walked
off stage and projectile vomited. Yeah, And it was me
and Brandon, you know, Brandon, my guitar player. It was
me and him, and it was awesome. Man, I'll never forget.
I was standing there, guns and roses, cut off T
shirt and trying. I couldn't take I want to strip
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so bad but but yeah, we were all right on
the edge of Spokane, the Nashville North out there and
they sang every word and but yeah, man, it was.
We've had a lot of great times to that song.
And you just go up to the mic and if
I don't come back, and you drop and then they
take it, they take it.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Make you want to run through a brick wall.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Jackson, Dude, you're awesome. I've been saying it to you
for a long time, but I appreciate the time coming
on and we're going to play all these songs in
different places. And congratulations for just being a I mean,
being exactly what Yellowstone sonically sounds like. If I were
to think of one person, it would be me, then you,
but only me because I'd want to paycheck. Not actually
because I sound like it, but you because you are
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legitimate in every way.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Thanks, I'll see you soon.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
See Jackson. The Yellowstone Official podcast hosted by Me Bobby
Bones and brought to you by iHeartMedia Podcasts and MTV
Entertainment Studios. Big shout out to executive producers Jason Reid,
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Stone and Director of podcast Development and Production Danyelle Waxman.
We also got to give a big nod to Michelle Newman,
David Glasser and David Hutkin for their support. Thank you
guys for tuning in. See you next week.
Episode six of the Official Yellowstone Podcast. It's me Bobby Bones.
First of all, I want to thank everybody for listening.
I want to thank all of our guests that have
come on so far, and thank you guys for listening
and sharing and giving positive reviews. Through the first five episodes,
we didn't know what we were doing. We just knew
we loved Yellowstone. So we really appreciate everything that you
guys have done for us, and please continue sharing. Now
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on this episode, I'm gonna talk to people that have
played pivotal roles on the show, like Kevin Costner, and
then people who have made a lot of music for
the show like Jackson Dean. We'll even check in with
Laney Wilson and Ryan Bingham, who obviously is a character
on the show and in Texas Country is a force
as well. Now, first up, we're gonna start with Kevin Costner.
Spoiler alert, he is not in the final season. Not really.
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I mean, his spirit is, and it's very much about him,
but he's not in it. You probably saw it in
the news, so I talked with him. I asked him,
how long did you know that you were leaving before
you announced that you were leaving.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
You know, I was hoping that we could continue. I
was I really love that show. I mean I was
going to do one season. I did five, and in
the end I needed to work more than twice a year,
more than once a year. I wanted to, and I
made sure that how I was going to do that
would work, that Yellowstone would have a first position. I
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would handle Yellowstone's business, and then I went go do
my own. But eventually that even became something that just
for whatever reason, couldn't happen. And when I realized that,
I knew that, then I would just go forward. And
so it was just about three days before I just
decided to make that announcement. It's like I didn't want
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people guessing about my life. I will say this, in life,
anything is possible. But I wanted to just make it final.
I'm not going to do Yellowstone if something changes traumatically
for whatever reason, you know my mind, my heart's open
to anything. But I'm done with that show at this
point and I'm not thinking about it. I'm not willing
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it to come back. It has marked me. It's something
that I love that audience has rallied around. It was
a I thought it would work. And that's what I
love about when people decide they'll see hat filled the
McCoys or that I've just I've judged that it has
an entertainment value, and people who have followed me my career.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I really want to honor that.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
You don't have a dislike for Yellowstone, you just have
more of a love for what you wanted to do.
As well as that.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
To Yellowstone, I have a healthy love of what it's
done for me, what it did for a lot of people,
what it did for the audiences that are willing to
follow me. No one knew about Yellowstone. I decided I
would do it. I went out over to Europe and
sold it. I was the only guy over there saying, yeah,
I think.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
This will be good.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I love that show and not like love. But there's
a moment in time where you, I think you nail it.
You have to be able to go forward in my life.
I don't want to close doors, but I also want
to be able to shut them in a way that's meaningful.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Next up country superstar and my friend Laney Wilson. Laney
has had numerous songs on the show and even found
herself in a pretty big role So here is Laney
Wilson talking about being casted for the show and how
it all came.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
About funny stories. I auditioned back in twenty twenty for
another role, like I sent in a video of me,
and I even went and read some of my lines
in front of Taylor Sheridan because I was out in
Montana when they were filming, just about to do like
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a little private show for it, or.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
You were there already while they were there, so I
was like, I'm into Taylor shared it, yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
And I was like, hey, like, I just got this brief,
you know, if you want me to read you my lines?
And I did terrible, Like real bad?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Are you saying that though? Because it's you.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
No, no, no no. Me and Taylor are friends enough
now to where if I asked him about that first experience,
I promised you he would say it was not good.
But I left there that day thinking maybe that opportunity
is gone. But they kept putting my songs in the show,
and then one night he texted me and just said
I got an idea. He said, I'm gonna call you
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in a minute. And then he calls and says, I'm
gonna create a character specifically for you, and you'll go
by Abby and you could still wear what you wear
and sing your own songs and pretty much be yourself
and go by a different name. And that's how that happened.
So he created the character.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
How nervous were you the first time you had to
actually act with other actors? Terrified?
Speaker 4 (04:56):
It was like I thought I was gonna throw up,
And it was with Beth Kelly Riley. I'm like, of course,
that's gonna be my first scene. But she made me
feel comfortable. She actually ended up being one of the
sweetest people on the show.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Isn't it funny how that works her character. You're like, man,
she's such a ba and she's awesome, but on that
show you're like, I wouldn't cross her, and then she
ends up being like awesome and with an accent in
real life too.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
No, she's she is truly the best, and I feel
like too. I got to stay inside stage and watch
her how she would get into her character, and she
would not break her character until the evening when it
was over.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
So she was method ish, acting like yes, when the
evening had she's not at dinner after the still being Beth,
but all during the workday. She did not leave the
Beath character.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Yeah, it was one of those things where if she
was like in a scene and then I show up
and I'm getting ready to film my part, like Kelly
during a time that is not filming, she would just
be hugging everybody and asking how everybody's family's doing, and
like catching up but dearing her work the chit chat
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and can wait till after you know what I'm saying,
Like she is in it, She's there to do a job.
And I watched her. I was like, because I bet
little things like that can throw you off your game,
especially for a character like she.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Has well compared to that to your music career though,
and a show when it's time you're fifteen twenty minutes
out all during Yeah, like you got to commit, like
no dicking around, Yes, because people just paid a bunch
of money to watch you do a show. The same
way people are like spending their time or they're paying
her to do the job. You're just doing it in
a different one.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Hundred percent, and one little thing can throw you off
your game. The other day in Vegas, I was putting
on these I should have tried this outfit on before
I went out to Vegas.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I put them on.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
They split like up the front, and then my whole
outfit was just ruined. I'm like, and then you're scrambling
trying to figure out okay, oh my gosh, do I
have anything that I like? Those kind of things right there.
It's about being prepared and just like keeping your head
in a game.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Was it pretty cool to go back without any spoilers?
Was it pretty cool to go back and see everybody again? Yes?
It was great.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
I didn't get to see the whole cast because I
pretty much just had, you know, one one like big scene.
But I can't say anything else because I feel like
I'm gonna tell to.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
You there's almost nothing else to say that you can say. Yeah,
does that make you want? I don't know. Have you
been auditioning your stuff? I have people called I don't
know what you're Are you at all trying to do more?
Speaker 4 (07:33):
I am definitely like open to the opportunities. I really
loved it, so I'm excited to see what we do
next with it.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Maybe it's a character.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
That's not a musician.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
What if you do like cartoon voiceover?
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Like well, I have done a couple things like that.
I would love to do that. If you need a
redneck cartoon, I got you.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Next up, it's Ryan Bingham, who plays Walker on Yellowstone.
Walker was introduced in season one. Now, this is Ryan
from just a bit ago. He came on my show
to tell a story about how he was casted by
Taylor Sheridan and a few other things. Awesome musician alone,
just music wise, he's amazing and you probably know that
from watching him sing on the show. But check out
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Ryan Bingham's music as well. If you haven't, you probably have,
but here he is Ryan Bingham. You come into the
show and you're walking out of prison and Rip comes
and picks you up from prison, and you've been in
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prison for what popping somebody in a bar fight in
him dying. Isn't that the greatest good guy coming from
prison murder story?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Ever?
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Like, you can't dislike you coming, you know, with the start,
even though you were a convicted murderer.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Right, Yeah, it's a heck of the story. I'm sure
I really enjoyed working on this show.
Speaker 6 (09:12):
And now it was quite an introduction there from the
start when.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
The show started they already have you cast, meaning as
they were doing all production, because you came in just
a bit later, or do they cast you once it
was already kind of going.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
They cast me once it was already going. I met
Taylor Shardan, the writer and director, maybe a year or
two prior to this. He wrote and directed a film
called Wynn River, and he had contacted me then about
writing a song for that movie.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
And I never really came up with anything. That's stuck,
And whenever this show came around, he contacted me about
writing some.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Songs for the show.
Speaker 7 (09:47):
And then he found out that I could ride horses and.
Speaker 6 (09:50):
I used to rodeo, and he said, shoot, we got
to write you into this show.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
And he said, I.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
Don't know if you figures and who came up with
the character of Walker, and we basically we'll see how
it does do good, then we'll keep you on. And
he said, we'll just kill you off.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
That's easy. That's pretty crazy too, that you weren't in
the original conception of the show, but they liked what
you did so much and you had the skill set
that they wrote you in. Do you get to keep
the clothes that your character wears?
Speaker 7 (10:19):
Ryan, Yeah, a lot of the clothes I brought myself.
Speaker 6 (10:23):
And I don't get to keep all the clothes bring
all of the jackets and things like that in. But
like my hat and my boots and my games and stuff.
Speaker 7 (10:32):
I just brought my shelves.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
So the hat that you wear, which is a bit
different from the rest, a little taller, So you brought
that in yourself. Yeah, I did. In one of the
first episodes, you have your guitar with you, you pull it out,
you just start playing. I'm watching because I play a
little bit, and I'm like, you didn't even tune that guitar.
Now do you ever struggle with going, Hey, guys, I
would pull this out and I'd actually probably tune it
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a little bit before I would start singing. Or do
you just let it rip because it's TV.
Speaker 7 (10:57):
I just let it go. I I first started playing
the guitar, and I was going to be playing in
a lot of bars that were just like that.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
After the rodeo, friends of mine would drag me over
to the bar, we'd get my guitar out of the truck,
and I was going in and play, and probably nine
times out of ten, I was out of chain. I
just said, I for it to be authentic, Walker would
probably be out of chain playing the guitar somewhere around
the campfire, so I just let it roll.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Hey, what about someone like Beth that she plays Bet
on the show, but she's British in real life? Does
she talk in a British accent when you guys aren't shooting?
And is that weird?
Speaker 6 (11:31):
She does?
Speaker 7 (11:33):
One of the sweetest, one of the most nice person
I've ever met, And it is my very first scene
on the show was with her, and I hadn't met
her before, but I had seen some of the other
episodes and I had.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
No idea really who she was, and then our first
scene was together and she's this very tough woman, and
then afterwards we ended up hanging out. It's like drinking
a cup of tea, and she was very sweet, very
nice and surprise, but.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
She speaks British because she plays that character so well
so well. Of all the cast, wh would you say
is your best friend that you hang out with the
most Of all the guys that we'd see on camera.
Speaker 7 (12:09):
I really like everybody.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
Jefferson is one guy for sure, Big plays Jimmy. I
really enjoy hanging out with Jets on side stage. He's
just always has these very kind of insideful things to say,
But everybody is really great to work with and be around.
And for someone like me to be relatively new to
the game as far as the acting goes, it's great
to be around such kind of the season actresses and actress.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
So I really enjoyed that you haven't been hurt on
set by horse or falling off a horse, have you.
Speaker 6 (12:40):
No, Surprisingly not that Rip's a pretty tough guy, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, I appreciate the time, man. I. You know, I'd
never been to Montanna. I was just up there for
a few days shooting some stuff and we had no
cell service for days. We were deep in the mountains
and for me that was a different kind of of
outdoor experience. That's a pretty cool place to shoot.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
Yeah, it's a beautiful play And big thanks to all
the local folks here in Montana as well for putting up.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
With us while we're here.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
It's a beautiful spot and it's had a very warm
welcome from people here. Yeah, it's a very special opportunity,
you know.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
For work up here.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Ryan, good to talk to you, Thank you all right,
see it Ryan last up as country star Jackson. Dene
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Jackson has made a lot of music for the show
and just makes awesome music in general. Support him if
you love him. I do. An eccentric guy, but no
doubt a Yellowstone faithful as pure with country music as
it gets, and the guy takes some real chances. You
can see Jackson Dene at the Jackson Dene here. He
is been on Yellowstone a lot. Here is Jackson Dene.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
No.
Speaker 8 (14:09):
Yellowstone found us via my agent out in LA who
actually babysat me when I was a kid.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Is very funny.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Your agent baby sat you.
Speaker 8 (14:18):
Yeah, man, she's from the same area and it is funny.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
But she went to school with my brothers. They were
ten years older than me.
Speaker 8 (14:25):
But yeah, she started working for w ME and I
didn't even really know her until we started working together,
which was funny. But yeah, man, they called and just
have been fortunate enough to hang around in the scene
a little bit and turn some years, you know. But yeah, man,
they've been very good to me.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
So your babysitter helped you get on Yellowstone. Let's just
put this all together here, Jackson. And when they come
to you do they say, hey, we have for example,
still Raging was on Yellowstone. And when they say hey,
we have a scene and we want this or do
they just go, hey, we love this song, can we
use this song? And they place it wherever they want.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
They loved the song, they did with it what they will.
Speaker 8 (15:07):
They do a really great job with the score over
there and getting songs in it. And we spent a
lot of time with Mss andreavm Forrester and got tight
with her, and just any chance to be a part
of the score is a great thing.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
What I like about Yellowstone is there are a lot
of people that romanticize we'll call it the cowboy life,
even though it's a bit more than just the cowboy life,
but they romanticize that because it's a fun show to watch.
And you know, me, growing up in Arkansas, I had
a lot of family that they were like semi cowboys,
Like they had horses and they raised horses, they rode horses.
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They weren't full cowboy on a ranch, but there definitely
were I would like like hillbilly cowboy difference, like you're
like real, You're like a real cowboy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Country living would be good, although I'd say I'm on
a little trailer park trash at the same time. And again,
it all kind of is in the same circle, but
not exactly the same. I would imagine that this show
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it's easy to say yes to, where if you know,
other shows maybe not, like an alien show, probably wouldn't
be so easy to say yes to put your music on.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Man, I'd say yes, yeah, bring it on.
Speaker 8 (16:16):
But no, Man, We've been traveling all across the globe
taking this way of life to people, and then people
come to the shows. Dude, you see that people want
a piece of it, you know. And it's not been
a long time since great westerns were made, but people
love westerns. Dude. Me and my days watch westerns all
the time when I was a kid. To have cinema.
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Coming back to that a little bit, cousters do a
little bit with horizon and all that.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
It's really great to see.
Speaker 8 (16:42):
But like taking our lifestyle to the people and just
it's a great way to live. I'm out here in
the country. I'm on the edge of two hundreds of nothing.
It's a beautiful, beautiful life to live, and I think
people want a piece of that, and something that presents
that in good fashion is incredibly important.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
What would be the biggest ranch you would want, because
again with the ranch with land there's a lot of work.
What do you what's maximum for you?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Maximum?
Speaker 8 (17:11):
Okay, realistically, I've heard the ten acre homestead thing, and
i've heard the forty you know, and I love, I
love as much as I could get and put a
fortress on that thing, of course, but it's hard to
do that when you're doing one hundred and twenty a year.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
But yeah, man, I would love to one day, but
too busy right now.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
What would you name the ranch? You gotta have a
cool name.
Speaker 8 (17:33):
I named a few things in my personal life after
my dog, like a couple of things here and there.
The name's Elk, and I always liked we use the thing.
I think our sign and out front down the driveway
is Elk River Lane, just stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
But yeah, probably Elk River Ranch or something like that.
Don't come looking. Was back on Yellowstone in twenty twenty one.
That song blew up ended up being your first number one.
Did that episode and that song that did that help
with some of the early momentum.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 8 (18:03):
Yeah, I have so many people come up to me
and meet and greets and whatnot. They go, my god, man,
we found you on Nielstone.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
We love it.
Speaker 8 (18:09):
Brought us to your whole discography and brought us to
some of your new music, and that stuff is so
helpful and real.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Man. Yeah, a lot of people came to us, and
I'm like, we found it here.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Did they come to you and say, hey, anytime you
have a song that you think might work, send it
to us. Or are they just always monitoring like I
do anything? Jacksondine puts out.
Speaker 8 (18:31):
They try to stay in loop. They got a lot
of people to a lot of people to choose from.
I'm just extremely grateful that they chose us to use,
but now they're constantly monitoring.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
It's funny. Timing is truly everything.
Speaker 8 (18:42):
Sometimes you play a song for somebody wants and then
you play it for him again six months later, and
they're like, what is that? They're just not ready for
it to hit them yet. And then you can be like, man,
there's a couple of songs off of this record, on
the Back of My Dreams that are like, right up
that alli have used this transit and get from A
to B.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
But sometimes it just didn't hit you at the proper moment.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Yellowstone is a show that at its core is just
about family and family looking out for each other and
at times sometimes they go with your family, but they're
still your family. You credit inspiration for your early songs
to your older brother while he was at sea. Why
was he such a big inspiration to you?
Speaker 8 (19:21):
They both were. There's twins. They are not identical new
they both were man in terms of they're your older brothers.
How could they not be. But Kyle, my oldest brother,
went and sailed for I don't know, eight nine years.
He worked out of Eastport and Annapolis for a while,
and he's working for my old man now running a
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business and whatnot. But he wanted his intensity and his
glory and he went and got it. He went and sailed.
He went and sailed the seas for it. I don't
know how many times he's got stuck in storms and
off the golf and between running ground. And he's a
man to be a mind for sure. But yeah, man,
I wrote a lot about them. I wrote about Cody,
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my other brother. But yeah, man, there's incredibly inspiring.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
If Yellowstone call it's and hey we got a roll
for you, come on, what would it be? Yeah? No,
what would you do it?
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Okay? Good?
Speaker 7 (20:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (20:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely I do it.
Speaker 8 (20:19):
I don't think they're ready for a merciless righteous man
to come and slit throats, which is what I would
want it to be.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
But yeah, I do it in a heartbeat.
Speaker 8 (20:28):
I think it'd be a lot of fun and getting
like getting to work with people like Sean Hagwell and
even Robbie who's sitting right over there capturing things well
and capturing on video making it cinematic.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I think it would be really.
Speaker 8 (20:44):
Fun to casture some stuff with them and it'll be
really really awesome.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Douc te part on the season finale, Tell me about
the song first, and then I after that just kind
of answer, do they send you a screener to let
you know and let you see your song in a
scene or.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
No, I've had it and I've not had it other times.
Speaker 8 (21:02):
You know. Like I said, we're just grateful to be
there and be even thought about. But duct tape, man,
Oh my gosh, it's so fun. It's so fun. That's
me Case Bethard and Luke Dick and that's just a
little fun. Yeah, old country blues song. It's one of
those ones where you're just like, all right, boys, fired up,
(21:23):
we're going to groove. And it was just so fun
to write. I mean, I've written with Casey and Luke
both one hundred times and four and I've written some
good songs with Casey, but that was I think that
was the first one we cut of Casey, and it
was really meat.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Back you did so you took some time off, you
came back like you do your own thing. I think
that's probably why I like just talking to you and
like hearing what you have to say, because you definitely
do your own freaking thing. And I feel like at
times when I've done my own thing, people are like, man,
that dude's weird, or that dude he's tough to work. Well,
talk about me, not you, But it's like I always
feel like if I do my own thing, I take
(21:59):
my own time, like my stuff's gonna be better in
my mind right, Like I'm more fulfilled whenever I have
I'm charged, and I need to get charged in different ways.
And I feel like you're a bit of the same
type of person, Like if you're not ready, you're gonna go,
and you're gonna get ready in charge, and then you're
gonna go absolutely as hard as you possibly can once
you're ready. Accuracy to that or no.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Accurate, accurate, big accuracy there.
Speaker 8 (22:22):
If you can't, if you can't put it in the tank,
you can't give it.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
You feel like people think at times it's like, man,
Jackson Dean, is he quiet or is he like stand
office or is he like like so serious? Like again,
I'm lucky. I know you. I'd hang out with you.
I love you, But I gotta feel like sometimes people like, man,
is that guy so serious? Do you deal with that? Sometimes?
Speaker 8 (22:44):
Sometimes and then they spend about two minutes with me
and then we're laughing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it usually isn't
too long a problem.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
How many hat protectors and you fly when you travel
in the okay, still cowboy hat case. How many you
take with you to protect your hats?
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Not a single one? Not a single one.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
I let's say, a pretty nice hat. I need to
protect it, I think, mm hmm.
Speaker 8 (23:08):
See the way I figured it, the more life that
it gets to absorb, the more living you do in it,
the better it's going to shape to your head. The
more what's the word I'm looking for, the better the
patina is going to be.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Now, me, i'd be like, I w'll just need to
get dirty because I need to look legit. But see,
you don't worry about that. You just go and do you.
I am a narcissistic fool, and I would need to
look perfect in my hat. I need to iron it
every night. I bet you don't even do that, do you.
I don't think so. Yeah, I knew you didn't. Don't
worry about that. I know you didn't. Okay, two questions left?
If you were to work on the big Yellowstone ranch,
because I know your history of having a lot of
(23:43):
real life jobs. I've had a few real life jobs myself.
What do you think your job would be on the ranch?
What would you excel at?
Speaker 7 (23:48):
Man?
Speaker 3 (23:49):
I thought always be cool to bridge my day to
day manager.
Speaker 8 (23:54):
Here is dad's a farrier and he shoes horses for
a living, and that's hard labor.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
But his dad's hands are like.
Speaker 8 (24:01):
Twice the sickness of mind, and like his pinky finger
is like these two fingers wild. That's some hard work
right there. But I think it'd be interesting to do
that for a minute. I've just seen how he's lived
his life, and they fly him all over all over
the country to go.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Shoot horses and whatnot, and it's just.
Speaker 8 (24:20):
Like you got like six rigs up and down the
East Coast, dude, like you're rocking and rolling. Man, It's
it's hard work, you know, in a dying breed and
dying profession.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
But yeah, yeah, last thing I'm gonna ask of you
give me a quick story about don't come looking. It
can be like the first time you played it, the
first time you played when everybody's sang back, this is
the first number one for you. Give me something about
this song.
Speaker 8 (24:43):
Absolutely, first time I ever really heard him sing it back.
And it wasn't just this one that they sang back.
It was Traylor Parker feelss don't take much wings.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
All my stuff.
Speaker 8 (24:56):
I was in Spokane in this little it was like
a six hundred person shack and it looked like it
was like a two hundred person shack on the outside.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Maybe one of.
Speaker 8 (25:07):
The hottest shows I ever played in my life. Walked
off stage and projectile vomited. Yeah, And it was me
and Brandon, you know, Brandon, my guitar player. It was
me and him, and it was awesome. Man, I'll never forget.
I was standing there, guns and roses, cut off T
shirt and trying. I couldn't take I want to strip
(25:29):
so bad but but yeah, we were all right on
the edge of Spokane, the Nashville North out there and
they sang every word and but yeah, man, it was.
We've had a lot of great times to that song.
And you just go up to the mic and if
I don't come back, and you drop and then they
take it, they take it.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Make you want to run through a brick wall.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Jackson, Dude, you're awesome. I've been saying it to you
for a long time, but I appreciate the time coming
on and we're going to play all these songs in
different places. And congratulations for just being a I mean,
being exactly what Yellowstone sonically sounds like. If I were
to think of one person, it would be me, then you,
but only me because I'd want to paycheck. Not actually
because I sound like it, but you because you are
(26:11):
legitimate in every way.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Thanks, I'll see you soon.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
See Jackson. The Yellowstone Official podcast hosted by Me Bobby
Bones and brought to you by iHeartMedia Podcasts and MTV
Entertainment Studios. Big shout out to executive producers Jason Reid,
Lindsay Hoffman, Carl Catele, and Kevin O'Connell, also our senior
(26:35):
manager of podcast Marketing, Ali Canner Graber for keeping the
word out and of course a big thanks to Will Pearson,
president of iHeartMedia Podcast, for him supporting this show. We've
also got special thanks going out to Whitney Baxter, xavier
A Free, Barbara Peeda, Emily Curry and Joe Flattery. You
guys make this happen. This podcast is produced in association
with One on one Studios over there executive producer Scott
(26:57):
Stone and Director of podcast Development and Production Danyelle Waxman.
We also got to give a big nod to Michelle Newman,
David Glasser and David Hutkin for their support. Thank you
guys for tuning in. See you next week.
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