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November 19, 2020 46 mins

People claim that “if you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all.” And you know who might need to hear this? The random YouTube commentor who called Cody a “gay rabbit-ass looking f***.” It’s 2020, people; let’s normalize gay rabbits! On the season finale of The Pleasure is Ours, Cody is joined by his bestie — director, rapper, actor, and YouTube sensation, Noel Miller. While the boys concede that throwing a playful amount of shade has ultimately benefited their careers, they would never advocate legit cruelty. There’s certainly no excuse for dunking on someone over something they can’t fix, but if you need to drop truth bombs on a friend to prevent them from making an unforced error like a Deathly Hallows lower back tat, then that’s ultimately a good thing. We’re all too concerned with hurting each other’s feelings, and that’s how you wind up with a white friend with dreadlocks.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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if you have sex alright, what's up? Welcome to Cody's
I Heart show. No, don't you start it. I was
joking about that. This is my show, all right, right,

(01:04):
I won't start it. My job, all right, start your show?
Start you go ahead? Okay, ready, yeah, don't say a word. Okay,
am you have a trouble with life, won't let me
give you some of fun? Hey, what's up? I'm Cody

(01:25):
co and welcome to the Pleasure is Ours, the podcast
in which we examine some of the worst advice people
hear their whole lives and try to make it better.
They say, if you don't have anything nice to say,
don't say anything at all. And you know what, I think,
anyone who really feels that way, you can suck my
balls in my in my night. Then. And he's also

(01:47):
and I think actually that they're the scum of the
earth and that they don't deserve anybody's respect. Damn, how
do you think of anything about that? A kindergarten teachers
everywhere like, well, all right, I don't know what I
did to you today was certainly not sucking your balls, sir.
Almost just had something really bad. But let's just today

(02:11):
I'm joined by my compadre. He's a rapper, songwriter, podcast
or producer, streamer, and director. You know him as one
half of the musical supergroup Tiny Meat Gang and the
award winning Tiny Meat Gang Podcast. At this point, I
feel like I'm just plugging my own stuff and it
feels a little bit weird. He's the forest fire to
my gender reveal. He's the white to my claw. I'm talking,

(02:32):
of course, about Noel Miller. Noel, how are you? I'm good, dude,
how do you? I'm so glad I could be. You're
the fire to your gender reveal. It's been a it's
been a while since we sat down and talked to
each other on microphones. When was the last time we
did this? Eighteen hours ago. You just can't keep us

(02:58):
away from the MinC I know, we just can't stop listen.
We've told this story before, but essentially we got into
making music as TMG together because of you know, me
making fun of a Jake Paul song, right or JP whatever,
He who must not be named Boldemort, whatever you want
to call him, and we were inspired to try to
make something better, which we definitely did with Kippy Dick Fat.

(03:20):
I mean, basically, our entire careers, you know, as TMG
were affected positively as the direct result of throwing shade
at someone. Is that a perfect example of why this
is bad advice. If you don't have anything nice to say,
don't say anything at all. I mean, I would say
so I feel if there was ever a time to

(03:41):
get paid or be someone in the world for saying
not nice things is definitely right. Now, why do you
say that of you know, I mean that's half of YouTube, right,
That's why I have five thousand dollars worth of equipment
in here so I can get on stream three times
a week and be like, I don't like ship, but

(04:03):
there's a there is a positive way to do it, totally. Yeah,
there's a lot of people that talk shit in really
mean ways. That's true, Like me, like you like you know,
you know what, Like I just feel like when you
stumble on commentary channels, people that almost like idolized people

(04:23):
like Leafy and stuff like that. Yeah, and so they
try to mimic that style. But it's a lot of
that is just straight up bullying and shitty. Yeah. You know,
I actually have an example for this. So for a minute,
you know, I was watching a lot of those TLC segments,
and I was watching one about a polyamorous couple, and
I tweeted a link to the stream highlight, you know,

(04:45):
I clowned it on stream and then okay, yeah, here's
the highlight of what I did. And then some YouTuber
starts quote tweeting it and says, you guys better go
after no, well as hard as you went after me,
And I said, and I went and watched what he did.
And what he did there was no humor. It was
just him hating people. And I don't know where people
get that messed up, like no, no, no, bro. When

(05:07):
I was making jokes, you know, I wasn't telling these
people they should go not exist and they're stupid and
ship like that, And I don't know if is it
not weird that ship still gets views though, Like who's
watching that ship? People like watching that? People like watching
people just being straight up mean. Yeah, I'm not even
gonna generalize who watches that, but there's definitely an audience

(05:28):
for that. People. Yeah, some people love that ship. Is
that the same as like watching reality TV? You know,
you know, you're like watching people be shitty and it
makes you feel good about yourself. I think people watch
that ship because it's like it's there's this weird like, yeah,
you're saying what I want to say. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I agree with that. I was gonna say, like, I

(05:49):
feel with that's cringe a series, which we haven't done
in a year now, because I think for this reason though,
you know, we had fun with it and we were
just sucking around, and a lot of the times what
I feel like we were doing, we were just kind of,
you know, generating little micro sketches out of whatever was
going on. It was never really targeted at that person,

(06:11):
you know, And then we ended up meeting all those people,
and I don't know, I almost feel we've hit this
point now where I feel like we definitely got an
element of people being like, go harder, you know, like
when we met with Crea Tyler and people were like, oh,
why didn't you fucking tear them apart? And I feel
like it kind of hit this point where people were
starting to miss like, no, man, it's supposed to be

(06:32):
you know, I I was supposed to be like tongue in cheek.
It's not supposed to make people hate themselves. But it
also if I was like twenty two three, maybe I
would have. Yeah, I feel like it also comes with
getting a little bit older. We're just start to things
just start to get harder and ship like that, and
you're like, damn, I kind of was I used to
be a dick and I don't want to bring that

(06:54):
much negativity into the world. Forgive me for using that
fucking cliche phrase bringing negativity into the world. I feel
like that's what all the Instagram comedians would harp on,
like five years ago, your negativity. Man, no more of
that shit. But I'm saying, do you know what I
mean a little bit like, once you're a little bit older,
it's like, hey, I want to like create something lasting. Yeah,

(07:15):
And truly, if you're just ripping on something for forty
five minutes straight, like in a heart in a super
harsh way, there's not going to be a lot of
opportunities that come from that. Well. I mean, you know
you you'll go back and watch that and be like like, damn,
was I Okay, someone should have checked in on me.
I was upset. But also I feel now like like

(07:38):
you look at TikTokers and stuff I generate beef and
they almost call that attention on themselves. Like the fact
the internet makes people closer. It just makes you think
twice about ship, Like you're like, damn, that dude's a person,
And if I say too much, people are just gonna
fucking be all in his comments saying a bunch of
horrible shit. It's not even like bringing a negativity to

(07:58):
the world. It's like you might just make someone by
themselves a target is some ship that you didn't even
plan for, because people do that all the time with humor,
Like you could tell a joke and people want to
make it mean. I know that's so true, dude. I
went to the fucking you girls, Claire. I went to
our YouTube channel recently and looked at her comments and
it's still plagued with memes from the cringe. I'm like, dude,

(08:22):
she doesn't even have a chance to like recover her channel.
What she gonna do go to the fucking comment filter
and just put in all the memes from that scringe.
I guess you could do that, but Claire, if you're listening,
I'd probably do that. But I still think we didn't
go that hard on girl to find I think we
went the hardest on them. I don't. I don't think
that we went we went the hardest on them because

(08:43):
we did. First of all, we did too, and second
of all, we really went in on their lifestyle, you
know what I'm saying, which is in their beliefs, which
is pretty brutal all things considered if you're the receiver
of that. But at the same time, it's like, yeah,
but you believe some pretty fucking her things. Yeah. Yeah,
that part I don't feel badly about because they're used
to where they're at and where they live like that

(09:06):
might be kosher or there their circle, their bubble. But
we just challenge that a little bit, and that I
don't feel badly about because if you're gonna push it
like that out on the internet, you you've just opened
the door. If you come on the internet expecting to
be like you can't say mean things about it. He's like, no,
this is for everyone. Yeah. I also feel like YouTube
totally rewards this style of content. Also, drama, talking shit

(09:32):
distracts all that ship. Why is that like the bread
and butter of YouTube. It's because people love it, or
is because they're Yeah, it must be because the algorithm
only favorite ship that people recommend and watch, so it
has to be right. It's like I've said before, you know,
people watching The Bachelorette and watching Leafy drama, and Ethan

(09:56):
and Tricia get into it. I don't ever want to
hear you guys talking it about wrestling, because that is
the same thing. Okay, it's the same thing. I think
people just enjoy that ship. They we enjoy conflict. I
think it's because we're so far into modern society. Here
we go, big brain, take so deep into modern society

(10:18):
that we need these things because we don't experience them
anymore like we used to. You know, like if we
were like a tribe or some ship, we'd probably be
arguing or getting out that aggression regularly. You know what
I mean by fight literally fighting or literally fighting, you know,
or did you ship on my bear rug like that
kind of you know whatever, did you eat my berries?

(10:39):
But we don't get that anymore, so now we crave
it from reality TV. That's the whole point of haunted houses.
As a human race in America, we haven't been scared.
Maybe recently we've been more scared. Yeah recently, my whole
the whole fucking country's haunted house. Okay, alright, fair, but
you know, maybe you know people in the suburbs, you know,

(11:02):
they have been scared in a while, so you know
that's why they like haunted houses. Yeah, like the movie
The Purge. Yeah, the dude. When The Purge came out,
everyone in the suburb was like, oh my god, could
you imagine if like you wouldn't do I wouldn't do that,
but than for the last year. What there's fucking four

(11:25):
of them, you know what I mean? Like the Purge
is the fast and furious of conflict porn. That's what
it is. Yeah, yeah, you know, I mean like no
one in the suburbs watched that and was like, oh
my god, that's sucking, you know, like they watching it
like this, yeah, smiling kind of wishing, Hey hon, you

(11:45):
see that kind of wishing. They're like, this is fucked.
But if it could happen, I know what if though,
I'm just saying the gun cases very close to the
bedroom and I'm very fast, Yeah, talking about techniques stuffing.
I would never do it, But I'm saying if it
did happen, I'd probably first go for Gary because he sucks.

(12:07):
We all hate Gary in the neighborhood. And then I
hit my accountants house because he's been stealing from me. Yeah,
well so so coming back to fucking talking ship. I
don't know, man, I think it's like in innate thing.
I think we want people want to be on a team. Yeah, definitely,
without without actually doing anything. Yeah. So you're watching drama
online or you're watching somebody tear aparts someone else and

(12:27):
you're like, yeah, I'm on the home team. I'm on
this guy's team because I think like him and we're
both smart. But I'm not saying shit. I'm just agreeing
with what he's saying. And then people are like, yeah,
they feel like they're part of it. You know. I
get the same feeling when I watched some ship like
that too, and or when I watch people fighting on
reality TV. I'm like, clearly this person is right because
I think like him and I'm always right and I'm smart,

(12:49):
and so this guy is smart, and so we together
are smart and we're a team and I'm on his team. Yeah.
I definitely think there's like that feel good element, and
you can't deny watching someone get owned. It just feels
so good. That's why the Karen ship is so awesome.
People love that, you know, people love Karen videos because
it's the same thing. You're like, fucking get that done,

(13:12):
it's the same. I almost feel it's a pendulum. I've
heard old comics basically say like they've watched this ship
happen over and over where there's a someone who comes
out and just is like fucking flagrant. They disregard the
rules and they're just mean and they're just assholes, and
people like that for a while, and then it gets

(13:33):
burned and then people say maybe we shouldn't say mean
stuff like that, and then it goes the other way,
and then it just keeps. You know, it's just that's
that's a good insight. So we'll probably enter this period
where we're like, man, we need to like look at
ourselves and stuff, right, and then after we've reflected for
a while, I guarantee we're gonna go back to being
pieces of ship and we're gonna you know, it's that's

(13:57):
like like that's like going to therapy. You know, you
spend an hour, you're like, I care about me, and
then you'll walk right out to start road raging and
cousin people out. At the risk again of sounding like
fucking Gary V or something like that, there is something
to be said about how positivity, or at least not
being super negative and bullying and you know, like refreshingly honest,

(14:18):
I guess I feel like that has a shorter lifespan
than someone who you know what, positivity is not the
right word, but you think of people like Obama or
someone like Keanu Reeves for example, they just make good
decisions and been respectful of their whole lives and they'll
just have a legacy forever because of that. I mean,
bro Okay, I feel even within our own careers, I

(14:39):
feel like we've seen this, you know, not the name whoever,
We've seen those people who are who stirsh it up.
You know, we just see it. We see like, Okay,
this dude is gonna be popping for a little bit,
and then once that's over, now what happens. There's so
many people I feel like we've seen that too, that
our peers and maybe like closely related. And I feel like, Yeah,
what what you're saying is there is there is a

(15:01):
longevity to just fucking thinking a little bit before you
say some ship. And I think people really respect even
if like you're you're trying to be entertaining, if you
hit a point where we're like, hey man, we probably
shouldn't do this, like, this is a person you know,
we should like respect this individual. I think people gravitate
towards that because it you do you ever, like feel
guilt when you watch someone like be a piece of ship,

(15:22):
or if like you get too involved, like you watch
something you get too opinionated about it, and you sober
up from that you're like, damn, why did I care
so much? So I feel like that makes people trust
you a little bit more too, and watching your ship,
they're gonna go, ah, I can watch this and know
that I'm not going to be a piece of ship. Yeah,
that I consume this media. And that being said, though,

(15:44):
there is a right way to being negative and to
like making and I'm we've gotten it wrong. We've gotten
it right, definitely. But you got to think about all
the great ship that's come out of the stuff that
we've done, like meeting with Gt. Dave and meeting with
dar Man and meeting with these people that embrace it
because they realize there's no malicious intent here. It's just

(16:04):
all fun and so I might as well embrace it,
and something fucking beautiful happens afterwards. So there's a lot
of good that can come from negativity as long as
you do it in the right way. Absolutely. No. I
you know, I'm not sitting here saying because I fucking
I hate positivity in general, or at least when it's overwhelming.
I hate when people try to pretend to the world
is okay because it's not. And so yeah, I feel

(16:26):
there needs to be a balancing act, Like for every
every person who's on the timeline, on Twitter or on
Instagram trying to spread positivity, we need to do our
part and be equally as negative. We just do it
the right way. So then when we meet those people,
it's like, oh my god, the world is a good
place because these two people can come to get You know,
you're setting an EXAs like negative in the short term,

(16:49):
so you can you can provide positivity in the long term,
planting seeds of positivity in the world. Yeah, I was.
I don't know if I told you this, but when
I was on Thomsa Gurro's podcast because he also met
with dar Man, did I tell you this? No? No, no, okay.
So Tom basically texted him and said, I want to
make my own version of one of your sketches, and
and dar was like, okay, I guess didn't like, didn't

(17:12):
really know what Tom was going for, right, And then
so I've made this sketch of this guy. He showed
it to me on the podcast. It's like this done
in the exact same style. About this dude that tries
to audition for a modeling agency, but he's like super fat,
and so they're like, no, you're Basically the guy at
the door is like, you can't. You absolutely cannot do this.
You're fat as hell. Look at all these guys, they

(17:33):
have rippling six packs, and you can't. You can't come in, basically,
And so the guy just then works construction for the
rest of his life. And then that's the end of
the thing. It's like, damn, it's like maybe you can't
do your dreams. Right. So I'm watching this and I'm
laughing because it's really funny. It's just such an extreme
parody of dar Man likes the complete opposite, you know, yeah,

(17:54):
just not inspirational at all. And then it cuts the
dar standing there and he goes, what's up, darn man, fam,
I just want to let you know how awful this
message is and how Yeah, and so he goes on
about how shitty the messages how and how you should
never trust anything Tom and Christina saying how like, um,
this probably will ruin lives instead of make them better

(18:15):
like he usually does. And I was like, that's fucking awesome, man.
The fact that he was willing to do that into
into like, you know, keep I guess progress the joke
even more, but be in on it still. It's awesome,
you see. But you can't have that if you're not
negative exactly. Do you know how much I helped, uh

(18:37):
the Mormon Bachelor Kids. I'm just gonna fully own that
no one was watching that series and I got on
and I'm like, look at these fucking bozos and they're
on season three. They had season two and three sponsored
by Apps. Yeah, what's the what's the most ship that
has ever been talked on? You? Do you remember remember that? Mom?

(19:00):
You know? I fucking I had a friend group that
just straight up excommunicated my ass. It was like a
weird thing where it was like high school. It was
like early like freshman year, so it was super juvenile ship.
But it was like a really clickie group and we
were all into the movies. Okay, we we walk out
of the movie. I had seen some of these other
friends I had made, and I was like talking and

(19:22):
hanging out with them, and then I saw the main
group I was with leaving, was like, all right, I'll
see you guys later, man, and I I started to
walk with the main group and they're all getting in
the car. I was like, Oh, we're going somewhere, and
they're like, oh, we're going somewhere. I was like, oh, damn, well,
that's the last time you talked to them. I mean,
after that, I was like, I'm good, Like I got it.

(19:44):
We're done here, and they're all like, what why are
you talking with us? Man? So I can assume that
that group had a lot of ship to say about me,
But it was after that I was like, we're out
of here. That whole car ride back probably just ripping
on you. Yeah, yeah, definitely, that's what fucking what race
even is? He I don't understand everything. And they bro

(20:06):
and they they held onto that years later, you know,
fucking I'll be like, hey, what's up, and you know,
I don't give a shit about it. And some of
them were so petty they quadrupled down four years later.
They was like, no, man, you was he wasn't a
good friend to us? What you know that? Right? So
one of the actually said to me, this girl said

(20:28):
to me, She's like, you know that, right, you know that?
I was like, huh, I was fourteen. Anyone a good
friend in high school? No, don't think everyone is a
piece of ship when they're fourteen. Who is a good
friend at fourteen? Tell me that? Tell me you wouldn't
fuck your best friend's girlfriend at fourteen? Everyone would. Everybody
would do it. Everybody would do it. You kidding me?

(20:50):
Forty nous at fourteen? That outweighs any sort of moral
code you'd have towards people in your life. That's gonna
be the next reality show in fourteen year olds just
being pieces of ship, just sucking. Yeah, So I made
out with my best friend's sister. I don't care. We're
we have fucking biology together. I don't give a fuck.

(21:11):
That's what Laguna Beach was, wasn't it. Yeah, it's I mean,
that's all reality shows. They're just trying to capture those
who did in the age past fourteen. Yeah. Yeah, they're
still a mental, mental cognition and hornings of a fourteen
year old. So why did you fuck your bet? Why
did you fuck your best friends girl, just super horny

(21:33):
and busted or not in like a week. Yes, I'm
pretty sure that's the most ship that's ever been talked
about me, because it was like it was a decent
sized group of people. So and if you guys are
listening right now, fuck you, they wouldn't. They're still talking ship.
I can't. You know. It's like over here talking about
a good friends and he wasn't even a good friend

(21:56):
to us? How so what we're sponsored by Rogin now?
Bitch about that? Uh? Speaking of getting fucked, I feel
I'm getting a lot of getting a lot of ship
talk to me talked about me right now with the

(22:16):
with the long hair, a lot of people saying I
look like Wayne from Wayne's World, which I want to
present do. Yeah, yeah, I can definitely see it, or
or Lord Farquad, which also kind of sucks. Yeah, you're like, um,
you're like Apollo. No if he wasn't good looking, okay,
said it hits you with that one word? Okay, cool.

(22:38):
Maybe I should grow a little soul patch. Maybe that
would help. Bro I'm looking at a picture of Apolo.
Oh no, god, damn it, dude. Actually, I'm not gonna
lie This is like if me and you did a
fusion dance. Let's see. Yeah, people will send us a
lot of like they tag us with a lot of
people that are like, this is like you and Cody
if you had to know this fool is me a

(22:59):
goat as one person? It really is especially fucked up, dude.
I hate looking at this. This is weird. The soul
patches like overwhelmingly bad. It looks like Harry Newtella. I've

(23:20):
just seen porns with that same patch. Man, that is
that's rough and not and not on the face. You
know what I'm saying. This is straight looks like bro
with that soul patch. This one the one of him
in the blue shirt. If you just typed his name
on Google? Are you looking at this one as IMDb?
What is IMDb? Yeah? Right, dude. I think if you

(23:41):
were drunk enough and you just saw him like sitting
on a couch, like you might try to go down
on his face. I think you need to confused. That's
a racing stripe. That's a p bush the landing strip,
My guy is it definitely just might start making out.

(24:02):
You started making out with him his lips, He's like,
what are you doing? You're like, ah, why is your
pussy talking? What did you get rid of the soul patch? Sollo?
Too many guys kept trying to eat me out. It
was fucked up. Oh man, you'm not saying anything nice anyway.

(24:28):
What we're saying about not buling and being positive speaking
of negging different do you think do you think negging
has ever worked to find a new mate? Yeah, you've
read the game, my friend. I mean not not not

(24:52):
like the over pickup artists ship. Remember, mystery should work
for him? Okay, I shouldn't say the textbook definition of nagging.
I don't. Maybe it's worked in like a fucked up context.
I know me personally, I have used making fun of
someone as a way of charm. You know, I've definitely
used that. Uh, but again, you have to do it

(25:15):
in the right way. Yeah, you just have to keep playful. Yeah,
you don't make them feel like ship. But you know
my concept of that is like, oh, is this a date?
I guess that's what you want to call it. And
you wore that. Oh my god, what I'm kidding. I'm kidding.
Let me try, let me try good, Okay, this is

(25:36):
a date? Right? Yeah? I would hope so okay, women,
what's with the pit stains? You're sick? Fuck? No, not good?
Try a kid. Okay, this is a date, right, yeah?
I hope. So all right? You didn't want to shave
your legs? That's it, that's it. I actually think that

(25:57):
could work. I you must like me. You love to
stubble on? What the fuck? Damn? Your calf is a
better beerd than I do. That's crazy. I'm fourteen years old.
I'd be curious to know. Put out a survey folks
as nagging ever got you? That's gotta feel terrible. If

(26:19):
you someone he does that to you and you wake
up in their bed, You're like, did this feel really
clown me into this? Yeah? But that's what you like.
I mean dudes like that too. When a girl throws
a yeah, definitely, I love yeah figuratively and ye. When
girls yeah yeah, you're like it's nice and stange. She's like,
you probably have a small dick, and you're like, I

(26:39):
love you about toxic? I want to be toxic with you.
What about in the terms of being in a relationship,
do you think being honest is better or do you
think being nice is better? I never really know how
to like be honest without like sugarcoating it, or I

(27:01):
just feel like if I'm honest, I'm just like brutally honest,
and then it makes everything worse. You know. Listen, you
have to be honest. You have to be from from
the outset. You have to just set the boundaries early,
and even if somebody doesn't like it, that's good because
you're protecting you. So you have to be honest. Definitely,
don't be nice. No one likes nice. You know, I

(27:22):
don't like that. Oh my god, you're tkeous that. Don't
be nice to me. I know, I know, I know.
I'm not even in the top ten pound for pound
in your ladder. Okay, just don't be nice to me.
All right, I'm right twelve, I'm outside the brad. I
get it. Okay, be honest. Yeah, no, I agree, I agree. Okay,

(27:42):
So what about um, you know, like a question like
you know, how do I look in his dress? Or
do you like? I can say, since day one, I'm
always brutally honest about clothing, especially like in a relationship,
at least with Alina. Right as long as we've been dating,
if we like go shopping or she I was buying ship,
and she was like, what do you think about this shirt?
I've never held back on that looks like DoD Yeah,

(28:07):
but so you you say it like that, You don't.
You're gonna go, oh, maybe another one will be cool. No,
you're just like, I'm like, that shirt's trash, the cuts weird.
I should find another one. Yeah, but what if? What
if that's you? I guess they're asking for your opinion,
so you're just giving your opinion, right to take it.
I'm looking out for her. I try to you know,

(28:27):
I don't just say no I don't like it. I
try to give I try to qualify it, you know.
She said, hey, how do I look in this jet?
I say, the cut strange. It's not flattering to this
part of your body. It makes it seem like this.
I don't like it because it's not shown that you've
got a big old dumper underneath there. Yeah, okay, yeah,
I like it. I like it. It's like it's like

(28:48):
a backhanded conflict because at first it's like, what the
this is? So it's like an insult cake, right, layers
of honesty and insults, and then with a little icing
on top, you make it sweet. Right at the end.
I love that big dumpers and everything else. She's oh,
She's like, oh my god, and I likes anymore. Yeah,

(29:09):
and I'm promoting her showing the dumper. Come on, okay, nice,
come on, okay, guys. I think we're gonna take a
quick break. But when we come back, Noel and I
are going to punch up this shitty advice for you guys.
Oh man, you know, dude. As guys, we talk a

(29:33):
lot about male pleasure all the time, right, but let's
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I just have this like reputation that precedes me. You know,
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to that. It's just so tough, you know, is it? Yeah? Yeah?
Is that a big time Yeah, just you know, being

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(30:36):
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(30:56):
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(32:02):
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(32:26):
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I think that out of all the ship that we've
talked this episode about other people and all this ship

(32:49):
that we've talked about ship talking, I think you nailed it.
You said, what did you say? You said? I said,
if you don't have something nice to say, be prepared
to back that ship up. That's all. It is, right,
because there are scenarios where it is necessary, you know,
for example, like if you're dunking on someone over something

(33:09):
they can't fix, like an overbite or a weak chin,
or a hilarious lisp. No, those are bad. You should
not say it in those cases, hilarious lisp, don't make
fun of that. How funny. That's But if you need
to drop truth bombs on a friend to prevent them
from making an unforced air like a deathly hollows lower
back tat, then that's ultimately a good thing. Yeah, people

(33:31):
need that ship, you know, when when they when you
change your outfit, you change your style, or you want
to try something new. You're like, hey, man, I want
to do white river rafting. You're like, why rafting is awesome?
That's what this whole episode is about, is me to
convince you to stop rafting. You've never been whitewater rafting. No,

(33:51):
what the fuck? It's fucking awesome, dude? What is bad
about that? Tell me that, first of all, the fit
is trash. Okay, I will never us up like a
boat booie ever, Okay you can. There's no way you
can look cool or good whitewater rafting. And that's what
it's about for me. You can't really look that cool
if your life is truly in danger. You know what

(34:13):
I'm saying. You have to wear protective ship like that
because your you might die. And that's fucking extreme and cool,
I'll give you that, but it's also like you run
the risk of several clips of you. You know, you
also don't know in a scary situation like that, like
what kind of sounds you're gonna make? You know what

(34:33):
I mean? You're you're being so vulnerable, yeah, yeah, exactly.
You don't know if you're gonna moan fucking weird like
white water rafting will bring the bitch out of you
so quick. There are some very tough guys that could
go whitewater rafting and they'll get and people have that forever.

(34:56):
So going over a waterfall, so you have to protect
your friends. Who was that from? You know? Was that
there are no women on this kayak? Who did that? Oh? Yeah,
as we're careening down a fucking fifteen ft waterfalls? I

(35:19):
want to right now. You have to protect your friends
from stuff like that. That's that's why it's you know, No,
I agree, I agree. I disagree with you about water
white water rafting. I think it's cool and dope and
good whatever. But I don't want to live in a
world where you can't shame a friend out of wearing
crocs are becoming a scientologist. We're all too concerned with
hurting each other's feelings, and that's how you wind up

(35:40):
with a white friend with dreadlocks that see that that
part Cody would Let's be real, that's why I'm what
are you doing it out? That's what I'm growing out.
Let's stop you now, let's knock it off early. Okay,
he just got the one baby lock up from do
you what do you mean? What do you mean? I

(36:03):
don't know. I got this in the Bahamas. It's a
it's like a thing they do there. It was at
the I didn't you know they had a Yeah, it's
sort of like a riff raff sort of thing. It's
not a real but you remember when Justin Bieber had
a couple of driveways, right, that was totally fine that
maybe that was fine. We got um completely unrelated to

(36:27):
the whole if you don't have anything nice to say discussion,
we've been having. What's the worst advice you've ever received? Personally? Oh,
that's a good one, I think anyone who was encouraging
me to go to college, Yeah, it's but but let
me qualify that them thinking that I would just magically

(36:48):
become more focused in college. It was like in high school.
I was I was fucking I was dees. You know,
I ended up dece But it was like, come on,
who are we kidding here? And the fact that so
many people were willing to just be like, dude, you're
gonna do great, You're gonna they were lying to me.
They're completely lying to me. Colle is gonna set you straight. Yeah,

(37:10):
it's gonna be way easier to get yourself on his schedules,
like no, no, yeah no. So I'm just saying in retrospect,
it was shiit advice. I listened to it and ended
up good. You signed up being good advice. But you know,
so you're glad you went. I'm glad I went. Does
that answer it? Or should I that? That answers it?
I'm I'm always worried about college advice because I just
feel like it's such a crapshoot. Half the people say

(37:32):
I'm glad I went to college. Half the people say
I'm wish I didn't go to college. Yeah, you know
what I'm saying. I don't know what when impressionable high
school students listen to this and they're gonna be like, well,
should I not go? Should I go? I don't know,
do whatever the fun you feel in your gut, you know. Yeah.
I trying to think of any other just like clean
cut shit advice. Oh here's one. So I like some

(37:55):
girls in high school, and she was way more popping
than I was and had friends like you just talk
to her, let's go talk to her. Bomb that terribly.
That was probably the I just it was so bad
that she threw me a bone. Some weeks later she
talked to me and I froze again and it was
like okay, okay, and she said, I did my charity work. Damn.

(38:20):
I have almost the exact same situation freshman year of college.
There there's more. There are moments like this that you
never let it go. You're like, you never let it go.
But also I remember it so distinctly because it just
made things clear in my mind as to like where
I stood so socially physically. This is freshman year of college, right,

(38:44):
so you're coming from a completely different social hierarchy where
you have found your place. I mean a lot of
people don't in high school, but I luckily did, right.
I had a great group of friends, and I was
like one of the popular kids at least, you know,
at least with people that I considered who are putes easy?
Because in Calgary and there's like forty people. That's what
I'm saying. You have to say is if you have
if you have a frisbee and a fucking bob sled,

(39:07):
yes definitely, yeah, yeah, a couple of huskies, people respect you,
a couple of good deer skins people like you. I mean,
that's all it takes. If your dad lets you bring
flint to start fire at school, Yeah you're the man.
Yeah you're Anyways, continues, So you're in college, That's what
I'm saying, right from what from my perspective, I was
doing great. I was doing great, and so I came
to college way overconfident. I didn't know like fraternity's and

(39:31):
all this stuff. It's a whole new playing field, you know,
with a thousand players instead of fifty in Calgary. And
so we're at this party and I'm like, I'm gonna
go just dance with that girl because she's super hot.
It's like one of the hottest girls I've ever seen.
I'm just gonna go dance with her. And because that's
what I would have done in Calgary. And I can't
do that. And she goes, you just leaves, like walks away,

(39:55):
and I was like, oh, I'm a nobody, I'm average looking.
I'm sure. Damn. That was a huge moment in my life.
I remember that. You know, that's like all those times
you got measured as a kid, it escaped you, and

(40:17):
they all just hit you right there in succession like
every time you went to the doctor, she was like, you, wow, Cody,
you're five six, you're growing, you're five Well, Cody, that's
at five eight. We're gonna cap out at five eight. No,
but they're always like positive about it. You know, five wow,
right at the top of the bell curve. Plastic job,

(40:37):
young man. And you're like, thanks to your mom's like,
you're just getting flashbacks every time your mom said you're
so handsome, You're so handsome, You're so handsome, And you
started crying and you're like, I want my mom on
the dance floor, asking for your mom on the dance floor.
All right, let's do it. You want to do a

(40:57):
lightning round? Sure, So I'm gonna tell you you. I'm
gonna ask you. I'm gonna give you two people of note.
You to tell me who you'd rather take advice from. Okay, okay,
all right, you have to take advice from one of them. Okay, okay, ready,
Shook knight er m Knight, Shamalan fucking hell Man. Well,

(41:19):
with my directing path, i think I'm about as good
as m Night. So I think, you know, you know,
just bad nonsense media. Something would be in my best
interest to take advice from him, Gigi Hadid or Elizabeth Warren. Well,
Liz got her as beat in the campaign trail. So

(41:40):
if I'm you know, I don't funk with losers, so
you know I'm gonna I'm gonna go with I mean,
she's only ever one. I'm pretty sure I'm gonna give
burn a distake for that one. Listen, you got her
as kick man um tub girl or one of the

(42:00):
Lemon Party guys, fucking know, tough girl, because that is
the freakiest shit ever. And I just have to know
what her fucking you know, her appetite is. How did
you get all that ship out of her? Ask? That
is crazy? Uh? Jesus or the girl to find girls?

(42:22):
I'm going Jesus, Little Dickie or Little Wayne? I think
little Wayne? Do you like it a little Wayne? This
little Dickie is in your mouth waiting, Huh. I just
saw that one and I was like, oh my god,
this is fucking perfect. That's a good woman. That's a
bar you foke with cash Mere cash Mere cash Schmarts
nuts in your face. My buddy was like, what did

(42:47):
you guys vote on Prop four or something like that?
Props like you propped this four inch decame out. Okay,
all right, dude, we've already talked about the worst advice

(43:10):
you've received. But what before you take off? What is
the worst advice you've ever given? Oh? The worst one
that I've you know, I've gone on record with is
fun his best friend, you know, right, I've encountered a
lot of distraught women in um over twitch. You know.
Oh this guy, he this now he's crawling back to me,

(43:31):
and I don't know, I say, fuck his best friend,
you know, make him feel it, pluck his best friend
and never let him get a chance ever again. But
you're saying that's bad advice. It's kind of bad advice.
I'm promoting like a toxic lifestyle, and it doesn't really
acknowledge the hurt, you know what I mean. It's just
pure vengeance. It's good advice if you're fourteen and horny, Yeah, yeah,

(43:51):
exactly exactly. It's not good advice if you're an adult.
Terrible advice. Exactly. Um well, guys, I think that's gonna
do it for this episode. Wow. I want to thank
you Noel Miller for joining us. I appreciate you coming
on the podcast, even though you've kind of underperformed, and
the tone of your voice is bad and it kind
of sounds like one long sad moan. Yeah, well, you know,

(44:14):
I do what I can. Man. I'm just demonstrating the
way we talked to each other if we didn't believe
what we just said, you know what I'm saying? Oh sure, yeah, yeah,
no man. Thanks. I want to thank you for bringing
me on the show so I can continue to star
your big gass face and try to figure out how
is possible for your face to keep getting Bigger's so
much brain just leaking into my face, that's what it is. Uh, listen,

(44:38):
you want to plug anything? You got a new EP
out it's called Push, you know, a little music project
out there. And of course you don't you have another?
Don't you have a podcast? Don't you know? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
I want to podcast with this guy. Okay, um, and
you know Patreon dot com sl that's time to meet gang.
If you're ever so inclined. You can always also get
it for free if you want to listen to it

(44:59):
on you Tube. But you know, if you enjoyed this episode,
you come see us do this every week. Al Right, guys,
thanks so much for listening and uh, we'll see you.
I don't know. This is the last episode of the season,
so I hope you liked the season and Noel, thanks
for being here for the last episode of the season.
Of course. I appreciate you guys, and thanks for listening
to The Pleasure Is Ours. Thanks for having me on.

(45:21):
Bro Yeah, no problem, Brom. You in trouble with life,
We'll let me give you some of funny. The Pleasure
Is Ours is a production of I Heart Radio and
Trojan Brand, hosted by me Cody co. The podcast is
executive produced by Ethan Fixel, produced and written by Jonathan Grimm,
written by David Doot, and engineered, edited and mixed by

(45:44):
Matt Stillo. Our theme song was composed by me CODYK
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If you haven't already subscribed, rated, or reviewed The Pleasure
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(46:04):
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