May 4, 2022 • 27 mins
Welcoming Siena Jeakle and Lianna Holston to The Pod Club! Have you ever watched a classic film and been like “wait, was that bad?” Or told people that you’ve seen a classic flick that you actually haven’t just so they think you're classy? These questions prompted Siena and Lianna to start Tossed Popcorn, a show where they review the AFI's "100 Greatest American Movies Of All Time" (spoiler alert: they hate most of them). With this idea, they won iHeartMedia's Next Great Podcast competition in 2020. Now they are here on the Pod Club to update us on which films are actually worth watching and the surprising ways this project has empowered them to be more critical viewers. Of course, they bring some podcast recommendations too. Like we always say, life is too short to listen to bad podcasts AND to watch bad movies.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Alright, one, two, three, it's a podcast? What podcast? Is
there a delay? Perfect? Actually, it's like around all right, Okay,
I'll start and I'll just I'll power through, all right,
three to one. It's a podcast about podcast, past guest podcast,
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podcast about podcast. Hello, Hello, Hello, welcome back to the
pod club. That theme cover that you just heard was
none of it in Sienna Chico and Leanna Holston, the
dynamic duo behind Tossed Popcorn. Tossed Popcorn is a movie podcast.
But it's not just any movie podcast. It's not exactly
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for serious film lovers, like the kind of people who
like to drink a glass of sherry and discuss the
noir aspects of Rosemary's Baby. No, not for those people.
This is a movie podcast for those of us who
are not totally convinced the classic films are even that good. Yeah, yeah,
I just said it. I just put it out there.
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Most films, especially the ones that have classic in front
of them, are kind of overrated, and that is what
Sienna and Leanna are trying to prove to. Hi. I
am Sianna Jacole and I am Leona Holston, and welcome
to Tossed Popcorn, the podcast where two idiots watch every
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film on the A f I s one d Greatest
American Movies of All Time, the very slightly Less Racist
tenth anniversary edition. This podcast is a safe space for
people who don't know anything about movies. Hi toss Popcorn
is extra special because it came to us as the
winner of My Heart's Next Great Podcast competition back in
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Their win is so deserved because these ladies are really
funny and so unapologetically sure of their movie opinions. I
want them to fight Hollywood to the nail, and you
know what, I kind of think they could take them.
So let's get right into it. There's a lot of
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podcasts out there to talk about movies that I would
almost argue maybe there's too many podcasts out there talking
about movies, but you guys take a different tack on it.
I think with Tossed Popcorn, tell me a little bit
about how you decided to enter enter this world of
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movie podcasts. It's really a journey. Um in August of
Goodness almost two years ago, a year and a half ago,
Sienna and I were doing weekly walks to make sure
that the other person went outside at some point during
the week, and we would talk on the phone during
those walks, and on one of them, Sienna made a
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movie reference that I did not understand and I was like, oh,
what's that from? And she didn't know. Yeah, I couldn't
explain it. We both realized in that moment, what what
I'm totally I'm totally interrupting you. What was it? It
would be so good if we remembered it was probably
a Casablanca like, oh, you know, as time goes by
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or play again, Sam, because you know, I recently realized
that I did this with sliding doors, that I would
reference sliding doors all the time. I'm like, go, well,
that's like, you know, you didn't you chose this guy
instead of that guy or you know? And I'm like,
that's your sliding Doors moment. And I've never seen the
freaking movie, right, Yeah, so I recent I recently watched
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it and it was fine. It was tobably fine. That's
been our whole experience with this podcast. It's a great,
great idea for a podcast. So you guys are the
next Great Podcast winners. I mean, there were there were
so many entries for the I Heart Next Great Podcast contest,
and you guys would so I just yeah, I like
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celebrating with people. I wish we could do it in person.
And the next best thing is to have you on
my podcast about podcasts. And then oh my god, thank you.
So you're like, okay, we've we just have this crazy idea.
It's a pandemic. Why not make a podcast? And you
enter the I Heart Next Great Podcast Contest. What was
your pitch? What did you say the podcast was going
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to pay? Okay, so we have to do this at parties,
a lot or any other sort of gathering. Oh yeah, okay, yeah, okay,
we're gonna try to say it's okay. Hi. I'm Cena J.
Cole and I'm Leanna Holston. And this is Tossed Popcorn,
the podcast where two idiots watch every film on the
a f i S Greatest one hundred Movies of All Time,
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the very slightly less Racist tent Anniversary Edition, And our
pitch specifically was like, have you ever watched a classic
film and thought, wait, was that bad? Because that is
what happened when I watched Casablanca. I saw it and
I was like, hang on, I am not enjoying this,
but everybody said that I would. I don't understand, and
it was from that angle that we were really coming
with the pitch, specifically of like, we're two idiots who
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met at Iron Prop team, we love each other very
much and we don't really care abou up film, and
we just didn't really realize that there was going to
be such a relatability factor. Like, Yeah, it was a
real moment, because there's so much guilt tied up in
that to admit both that you haven't seen all these
movies that are supposed to be cultural touchstones and you've
been told are they must see pieces of media in
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our world, but then on top of that, to admit
that we just didn't really want to or didn't really care,
and especially that we didn't really get a lot of movies.
It was a big deal, especially because we met on
our improved team and are surrounded by a lot of
entertainment people through work, in school and everything, and to
admit that to each other felt like some little secret
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and it did make us wonder if other people also
felt that way. Which has been a big takeaway from
doing the podcast is that a lot of people are like, wow, yeah,
I've never seen these and I didn't ever like seeing them.
I'm scrolling through your episodes. And I haven't seen more
than half of these movies, but there are movies that
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I think I might have. I may have lied at
some point and said that I've seen oh A D.
For survival reasons. Sometimes you just got to get through it,
get through a conversation, and we support that here at
Toss Popcorn. We absolutely endorse just tell people you've seen
it to get them to leave you alone. Good good.
It's just been so heartening to hear from so many
people that they feel the same way and have not
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really ever felt the space to say it right exactly.
And I like creating spaces, particularly for women, where we
can say the things that have been in our heads
for a long time and we didn't have anywhere to
say them before. Absolutely so many women have responded to
us and have taken to the podcast saying exactly that.
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But if you're a dude, um who likes movies, this
is also this is You're not excluded from this podcast.
I think that this show is also also for everyone,
not just not just ladies. But what I'm about to
say next to me just be from ladies, So sorry, dude.
What I really enjoy is that in a lot of
your episodes, you judge the hotness of old Hollywood dude.
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And I like that because I appreciate turning the female
gaze onto the movie industry, which really needs it, and
also because Gone with the Wind was my mother's favorite
movie when I was growing up. There's so many problems
with that, but I want to say, I'm like, she
just really had a thing for Clark Gable, who I
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was like, Hey, that tiny mustache, that tiny mustache. But
I was like, I never I never got that, But
I got that more than I understood. Ashley Wilkes, my friend, right,
all right, listen, no, no, I will not stand for
Ashley wilkes slander. He is so tall, he is so
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visibly haunted. Oh Mike, in those blue eyes, I think
they're blue, but I don't know an unavailable man. It's
everything Ashley Wilkes Leana's exact type. But so many, so many,
so many of these these old dudes and that there
were that were held up as like sex symbols of
the time. We're just not that cute. And we're gonna
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we're actually gonna play a montage of you guys judging
old dude hotness. Oh my God. Yeah, that's the kind
of magic that we do here at the Pot Clubs.
I just feels like our entire lives have led to
this moment. This is really beautiful. They have have go
to go to tape. Okay. Unfortunately, my next note is
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about Ashley Wilkes and okay, a visibly tall man, and
my note is, this is the town hottie. Wow, okay wow.
I need a moment to sit with that, because my
response was, yeah, this is the town hot segment is
all the times I wrote down how hot Luke Skywalker is. Oh,
I love this scene where he just stares with his jawline.
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I said out loud, Luke is so hot. Okay, Luke
in this jacket, I said aloud again, Okay, okay. But mainly,
mainly the thing about this whole situation that man Jimmy
Stewart is not hot enough to be having immediate sexual
tension with her that we've met the three friends. My
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question for you, fuck Mary, kill the Scarecrow. I would
fuck the Scarecrow because that guy is Limbert. And then
I would kill the Lion because his vibrato is genuinely
scary to me. Then I would marry the tin Man
because I love a guy who has no emotions. I
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think because of my childhood, I would have to bang
the tin man and kill the scarecrow. So I'm sure
he's very good. Music was really loud, so you couldn't
really hear Gene Kelly's voice. And when you do hear
his voice, it's nothing to write home about. No, not
a very good voice. Like his butt is so good.
His voice is whatever. It's a great But how many
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of a f I s hundred greatest movies have you
made it through so far? I think I was trying
to count, is it? Like, yeah, it's some it's about
and this was fun when we first we discovered the list.
Their website is designed as a checklist formats you can
go through and tick which ones you've seen. And I
think each of us had seen maybe two out of
the one hundred films, and it's because one of them
is Toy Story and the other one is a Lord
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of the Rings. So those somehow snuck on the tenth
anniversary edition. Um, but now I think I think it's
twenty five. Now, I think we're a quarter of the
way through. Sienna and I both live in Los Angeles
and and any time we talked to like a straight
man about our podcast, we are just sort of accosted
with film trivia that we did not ask for, Like
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what what what will they say? Can you guys do
a reenactment of just assist straight Man in Hollywood? Just
going oh my god, of course, Siana, what's a what
was the film that like men just kept explaining to
you about it? And you're like, stop telling me. I
think Chinatown was one of them. Okay, yeah, well we
can just pick We'll just Chinatown as an example. Okay,
oh my god, you're watching Chinatown this week? Oh a
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newir that is like such a cool noir because it's
like modern day. Well it's like in color. Yeah, and
people also say that it's kind of like the last
classic film like before the modern era like started, and yeah,
it's planty, but like you got to separate the art
from the art, you know. And look what he does
with the watch when he puts the watch under that
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car wheel. Do you get it? Do you get it?
When he breaks the watch under the car wheel, it
looks like what time it was when the car left?
You probably don't get it. Yeah, And there's a woman
in it. And she's like smart. I mean, you see
her boobs but like that. Yeah, I mean she's just
like there. I've also never seen Chinatown, and after listening
to your episode about it, I don't have to. Here
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are a few sentences you can say to pretend you've
seen Chinatown. Oh yeah, that screenplay, the composition of the film,
that was good. Oh wow, that scene where there was
a portrait of FDR on the wall. Hey, what a guy.
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I've heard that some people consider this the last classical
Hollywood picture. She did that all twirling her hair. Oh no, awful.
I loved the colors in this film, brown and beige
and green, Aaron. It made me feel bad, and that's good.
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Somebody's I think I will I will watch. After listening
to your episode on Sunset Bullivar, I think I'd like
to watch Sunset Bolivars. It's a delight. We love her, don't. Yeah,
Norman doesn't. And but after listening to the episode on
two thousand one Space Odyssey, I'm good. If you've seen
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any screen saver, you've seen that film, you've seen it already. Yeah,
I'm fine. I'm fine. And my favorite podcasts or something
that teach me something and your podcast has taught me
what I can just pretend that I've watched at cocktail
parties and and and old people's weddings, old people's weddings.
I love that they're getting married. I know, me too,
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me too. I mean, just after the pandemic, somehow I've
found myself in a spate of like second and third
marriages because in my parents friend circle, it's beautiful. Life
is so long and beautiful, speaking of life being along.
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I also like podcasts by old people or about old people.
They're like my favorite podcast. I didn't even think about
that as a genre. It's a genre. It's a genre.
Have you heard of the podcast seventy over seventy? No,
please tell us about it. Seventy over seventy is a
show they interview seventy remarkable people all over the age
of seventy and it warms my cold, dark heart. Seven
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year olds. They've they've got some real knowledge up in
their jam. So they talked to Norman Lear, Dion Warwick,
Dan Rather, Alice Waters, who's nick the poet, Nikki Giovanni.
Her episode is just It's Chef's kiss. It's so good, Raffie.
They talked to freaking baby bluga Raffie. I can't. In fact,
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I'm just I'm gonna play I'm gonna play you a
little bit of a Raffie episode right now, just so
you can all in love at the show. I gotta
tell you, I got two little kids, and I told
them what I was doing this morning, and it was
the first time they've been at all impressed with me. Ever,
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you are a true, true celebrity. To those two, they
couldn't believe that I was getting a chance to talk
to you. That's enough talking about my kids. I'm interested
in you as a kid, Raffie. What was your childhood like?
I was observant. I didn't miss the thing. Oh yeah,
you know. I took in a lot of detail, and
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it was both wonderful in the sense that I knew
that I was loved greatly, But the bewilderment was that
I didn't feel respectful for who I felt I was.
Were there children's songs in your life? Then? Uh, there
were a couple of you know, lullabys here and there
by my mother, I imagine, but they didn't feel like they,
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you know, took a big place in my childhood. But
when I got to be doing this work with children.
Music for children, I actually had to learn word for
word children's classics such as Bob Bob, Black Sheep, Mary
had a Little Lamb. I mean, I was a folks
singer before I was a children's entertainer, and my folks
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singing music chops actually helped me when I began to
entertain families. But you know, it's interesting. I mean, when
I look back on my life, it feels like there's
been two or three or four different periods where I
was just, you know, almost different people. Of course, you're
never really different people that you're You're just going through
phases of your life, you know. Yeah, I think that's
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true for everybody. Well, let's talk about the phase when
you were an aspiring folk artist. Most week I've mentioned
it on the show. I hate like thready under dirty Less,
I'm like, what the hell do you know? I knew
nothing by the time I was thirty. I know nothing now.
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I feel like a lot of our podcast does end
up roasting young people. A because a lot of people
in movies were like twenty one when they were in
a movie back in the day, but also because a
lot of the people we end up roasting are like
young guys who just don't know anything. And when you
don't know anything, then just admit that and have fun
with it. You know, that's okay. It's like the book
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that the graduate is based on was written, I think
by a twenty four year old guy, and it's like,
come on, it's insane. You don't know anything at that age.
Speaking as someone who's the age like you know nothing,
you idiots, speaking as someone who is talking to someone
in your age. You guys know nothing, yet you will
when you're thank you so much your Saturday, and we
own that we are. We happily have the smoothest of brains.
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I still can't figure out how much bread to buy.
That is great, and it's actually really I would think
about that yesterday. That's something that you're never going to know.
I am forty one years and I have two children,
and I never buy enough bread. I don't know, but
you know what we do. We keep it. We do
keep it in the fridge until that is stay it
lasts longer. I got some Brioche buns yesterday, thank you,
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and put them straight in the fridge. Fell very proud.
I love a Brioche bun. They've changed the game. I've
also been doing a lot of comfort eating lately. And
there's another podcast if you guys haven't heard it, if
you like chat podcast where just like it's a cool
woman talking to other mostly cool women. Grace Dent. She
is a food editor in the UK and she has
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a podcast called comfort Eating that just talks about food
to eat to make you happy. I'm Grace Dent and
this is Comfort Eating from the Guardian, a podcast where
we pay homage to the lesser celebrated feeds in life,
because even as a restaurant critic, I believe our favorite
fits are often the snacks we eat when we're home alone.
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Each week, a famous guest lifts the lid on the
cool for foods that have seen them through their lives.
It turns out you can tell a lot about person
from what they eat behind closed doors. Oh, I love that.
There's um. There's another UK food podcast called off Menu.
Do you know that one? No? Oh? This is It's
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hosted by two British comedians, and I love British comedians
and their names are James A Castor and Ed Gamble,
and they interview a guest each episode to ask about
what their dream menu would be in like the dream restaurant,
and so they go through their ideal like starter, main course, drink, dessert, side, dish,
not in that order. And it's so fun. Oh, I'm
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they've had a lot of episodes. I'm scrolling now, Shearon,
that's so fun. I want to listen to ed Shearon's
off oh and Jamie Oliver's off menu episodes. Okay, I'm
going to add off menu to my list. I love
it when people recommend things to me. Welcome Ed to
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the Dream Restaurants. Welcome back to the dream restaurant, but
expecting you for some time the entrance of the genie there.
Did you enjoy the entrance of the Genie? I did? Yeah,
I did. You did just say just before we started
that you were going to be more strange than you
were off. Yes, I warned, you gave you fair warning. Edge.
So it is your dream main course Nando's or we
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going somewhere else. I'd probably go curry. I'd probably go
curry with some nan or it would be a vodka
rigatoni pasta, one of those. But really about that, I've
not heard of a vodka tony before. So it's the
first time I had it was in this restaurant in
America called Carbone, and they don't really I've never really
found it in in Italy. I think it's like an
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Italian American creek creation. But it's like spicy, creamy tomato pasta.
And it's really great question for you. What's the deal
listen to podcasts at I still listen at normal speed,
which I know is controversial. I listen it's just like
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normal human human talking speed. I know I should probably
speed it up. What do you guys? Do? I respect
that I do one point five, but it's because the
first time I ever played a podcast, it was on
one point five and I didn't notice. And then when
I played the next episode, it's just sounded so slow
in comparison that I've been locked in ever since to
that tempo. There's nothing else you can do. I understand.
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Maybe that's something I'll try for this year. It's good
for those longer ones. Okay, well, I do want a
regular speed, so I sort of disagree with Leon on
that one. Okay, well, thank you, because I haven't reason
to rush through. You know, it's kind of a place
where I can take it slow. I love just listening
to a podcast, leisurely podcast. Well, doing some other chores
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around my house. That's what I do. I'm working my
way through the apartment Therapy decluttering month, by the way,
the website apartment Therapy. Um, while I listened to your podcast. Actually,
that's what I was doing, so flattered. That's a great idea.
I should do that. Yeah, yeah, so you know, clean
our house smarter, lady. Everyone's monning. Dang, we are learning
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so much. Well that's because you know, I have twenty
years on you, and we have so much wisdom to impart.
Imagine if I were seventy years old right now, Oh
my gosh, I love that for you, we'd be geniuses. Okay,
so what else is in your feeds? In your ears?
What else are you listening to right now? I've not
really done like narrative or fiction podcasts before, but there's
a new one called Whistle through the Shamrocks is by
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Nicola Coglin and Camilla white Hill. And if do you
watch Britain, I haven't watched Bridgertain yet, but I've also
pretended that wat I've definitely loved that for you. Nicola's
in Bridgtain. She's also in a Netflix show called Dairy Girls,
and she was one of my favorite characters on that show.
And they the premise of Whistle Through the Shamrocks is
they wrote this play that was meant to like revive
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the National Theater after COVID and sort of saved theater
in the UK. And that's all sort of a facade,
but it's a lot of very funny UK comedians doing
pretty terrible Irish accents during this staged reading of this
this play that the two of them wrote, and oh
I love it somewhere I'm Likla Cockland, most of you know,
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kind of White Hill Award winning Theater and Television writer,
which awards. We wrote this play originally for the stage,
actually for the National Theater. Sadly that fell through. We
assume that they never actually got back to us, so
we decided, you know what, we don't need the support
of like the establishment to tell this story. And you know,
as the same goes, when one door closes, start a podcast,
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I'm locked Cromwell doubling the richest man you'll ever me.
I'm going to be the chip King of Ireland. Are
terrible English landlord is going to tear down our lovely
home and build a chip factory in its place. Money,
A party of Louise and Louise. This is Patty, Johnny
told me Patty o fat in my fiance. Mommy, it's
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bird farther, Mr Doddy, he's done a kidnap, a master
potty to potty. First he tries to take out home. No,
he takes my son Jimmy by you Reckon. It's time
for you to put our big Bi Mordern trousers on
and kill someone last night. A fierce wind and whistle,
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throw the shamrocks. It's an ill winding and change that Elliott,
It'll mean no good. It's great and it's one of
those like classics, sort of British series where it's like
six episodes long, very very digestible, very easy to get
through pretty quickly. Ah yeah, the British. They know how
to have a beginning and an ant something. Americans have
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just no middle grasp over here, all metal, all middle.
This show is really all middle. It's a I don't
know how to end the end the show, So guys,
those are my only questions. I want everyone to check
out Tossed Popcorn, but also too then watch the movie
before or after the episode. I think it's more fun
to watch it before so that you have your own
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thoughts and then that I think you really laugh out
loud when you're listening to your episode. Thank you, guys,
thank you so much, so much. By that's it Pod Club.
I really believe that the moral of today's episode is
to only watch movies that bring you joy. Don't watch
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them because they're on a list or someone told you
that you have to in order to be a smart
human in the world. Watch them because you think that
you'll like them, just like very similar to how you
should only listen to podcasts that bring you joy. And
on that note, to bring more joy in your life,
definitely listen to Talk Popcorn to recap the other shows
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that might bring a little light in your life. We
talked about seventy over seventy, Comfort Eating with Grace dent
Off Menu, and Whistle Through the Shamrocks. Not's it for
this week, Happy Listening, Talk Soon. The pod Club is
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hosted by me Joe Piazza. Our executive producers are Me
Again and Emily Marinoff. Our producers are Mary Do and
Darby Masters. Our associate producer is Lauren philip Our theme
and additional music was composed by Aaron Kaufman. Aaron Kaufman
is also our consulting producer and special thanks to Nikki
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e Tor he was just a wonderful human being who
I like to think. At the end of episodes two,
Alright, one, two, three, it's a podcast? What podcast? Is
there a delay? Perfect? Actually, it's like around all right, Okay,
I'll start and I'll just I'll power through, all right,
three to one. It's a podcast about podcast, past guest podcast,
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podcast about podcast. Hello, Hello, Hello, welcome back to the
pod club. That theme cover that you just heard was
none of it in Sienna Chico and Leanna Holston, the
dynamic duo behind Tossed Popcorn. Tossed Popcorn is a movie podcast.
But it's not just any movie podcast. It's not exactly
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for serious film lovers, like the kind of people who
like to drink a glass of sherry and discuss the
noir aspects of Rosemary's Baby. No, not for those people.
This is a movie podcast for those of us who
are not totally convinced the classic films are even that good. Yeah, yeah,
I just said it. I just put it out there.
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Most films, especially the ones that have classic in front
of them, are kind of overrated, and that is what
Sienna and Leanna are trying to prove to. Hi. I
am Sianna Jacole and I am Leona Holston, and welcome
to Tossed Popcorn, the podcast where two idiots watch every
(01:25):
film on the A f I s one d Greatest
American Movies of All Time, the very slightly Less Racist
tenth anniversary edition. This podcast is a safe space for
people who don't know anything about movies. Hi toss Popcorn
is extra special because it came to us as the
winner of My Heart's Next Great Podcast competition back in
(01:47):
Their win is so deserved because these ladies are really
funny and so unapologetically sure of their movie opinions. I
want them to fight Hollywood to the nail, and you
know what, I kind of think they could take them.
So let's get right into it. There's a lot of
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podcasts out there to talk about movies that I would
almost argue maybe there's too many podcasts out there talking
about movies, but you guys take a different tack on it.
I think with Tossed Popcorn, tell me a little bit
about how you decided to enter enter this world of
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movie podcasts. It's really a journey. Um in August of
Goodness almost two years ago, a year and a half ago,
Sienna and I were doing weekly walks to make sure
that the other person went outside at some point during
the week, and we would talk on the phone during
those walks, and on one of them, Sienna made a
(02:49):
movie reference that I did not understand and I was like, oh,
what's that from? And she didn't know. Yeah, I couldn't
explain it. We both realized in that moment, what what
I'm totally I'm totally interrupting you. What was it? It
would be so good if we remembered it was probably
a Casablanca like, oh, you know, as time goes by
(03:10):
or play again, Sam, because you know, I recently realized
that I did this with sliding doors, that I would
reference sliding doors all the time. I'm like, go, well,
that's like, you know, you didn't you chose this guy
instead of that guy or you know? And I'm like,
that's your sliding Doors moment. And I've never seen the
freaking movie, right, Yeah, so I recent I recently watched
(03:32):
it and it was fine. It was tobably fine. That's
been our whole experience with this podcast. It's a great,
great idea for a podcast. So you guys are the
next Great Podcast winners. I mean, there were there were
so many entries for the I Heart Next Great Podcast contest,
and you guys would so I just yeah, I like
(03:52):
celebrating with people. I wish we could do it in person.
And the next best thing is to have you on
my podcast about podcasts. And then oh my god, thank you.
So you're like, okay, we've we just have this crazy idea.
It's a pandemic. Why not make a podcast? And you
enter the I Heart Next Great Podcast Contest. What was
your pitch? What did you say the podcast was going
(04:14):
to pay? Okay, so we have to do this at parties,
a lot or any other sort of gathering. Oh yeah, okay, yeah, okay,
we're gonna try to say it's okay. Hi. I'm Cena J.
Cole and I'm Leanna Holston. And this is Tossed Popcorn,
the podcast where two idiots watch every film on the
a f i S Greatest one hundred Movies of All Time,
(04:35):
the very slightly less Racist tent Anniversary Edition, And our
pitch specifically was like, have you ever watched a classic
film and thought, wait, was that bad? Because that is
what happened when I watched Casablanca. I saw it and
I was like, hang on, I am not enjoying this,
but everybody said that I would. I don't understand, and
it was from that angle that we were really coming
with the pitch, specifically of like, we're two idiots who
(04:57):
met at Iron Prop team, we love each other very
much and we don't really care abou up film, and
we just didn't really realize that there was going to
be such a relatability factor. Like, Yeah, it was a
real moment, because there's so much guilt tied up in
that to admit both that you haven't seen all these
movies that are supposed to be cultural touchstones and you've
been told are they must see pieces of media in
(05:19):
our world, but then on top of that, to admit
that we just didn't really want to or didn't really care,
and especially that we didn't really get a lot of movies.
It was a big deal, especially because we met on
our improved team and are surrounded by a lot of
entertainment people through work, in school and everything, and to
admit that to each other felt like some little secret
(05:41):
and it did make us wonder if other people also
felt that way. Which has been a big takeaway from
doing the podcast is that a lot of people are like, wow, yeah,
I've never seen these and I didn't ever like seeing them.
I'm scrolling through your episodes. And I haven't seen more
than half of these movies, but there are movies that
(06:01):
I think I might have. I may have lied at
some point and said that I've seen oh A D.
For survival reasons. Sometimes you just got to get through it,
get through a conversation, and we support that here at
Toss Popcorn. We absolutely endorse just tell people you've seen
it to get them to leave you alone. Good good.
It's just been so heartening to hear from so many
people that they feel the same way and have not
(06:22):
really ever felt the space to say it right exactly.
And I like creating spaces, particularly for women, where we
can say the things that have been in our heads
for a long time and we didn't have anywhere to
say them before. Absolutely so many women have responded to
us and have taken to the podcast saying exactly that.
(06:43):
But if you're a dude, um who likes movies, this
is also this is You're not excluded from this podcast.
I think that this show is also also for everyone,
not just not just ladies. But what I'm about to
say next to me just be from ladies, So sorry, dude.
What I really enjoy is that in a lot of
your episodes, you judge the hotness of old Hollywood dude.
(07:07):
And I like that because I appreciate turning the female
gaze onto the movie industry, which really needs it, and
also because Gone with the Wind was my mother's favorite
movie when I was growing up. There's so many problems
with that, but I want to say, I'm like, she
just really had a thing for Clark Gable, who I
(07:29):
was like, Hey, that tiny mustache, that tiny mustache. But
I was like, I never I never got that, But
I got that more than I understood. Ashley Wilkes, my friend, right,
all right, listen, no, no, I will not stand for
Ashley wilkes slander. He is so tall, he is so
(07:50):
visibly haunted. Oh Mike, in those blue eyes, I think
they're blue, but I don't know an unavailable man. It's
everything Ashley Wilkes Leana's exact type. But so many, so many,
so many of these these old dudes and that there
were that were held up as like sex symbols of
the time. We're just not that cute. And we're gonna
(08:12):
we're actually gonna play a montage of you guys judging
old dude hotness. Oh my God. Yeah, that's the kind
of magic that we do here at the Pot Clubs.
I just feels like our entire lives have led to
this moment. This is really beautiful. They have have go
to go to tape. Okay. Unfortunately, my next note is
(08:34):
about Ashley Wilkes and okay, a visibly tall man, and
my note is, this is the town hottie. Wow, okay wow.
I need a moment to sit with that, because my
response was, yeah, this is the town hot segment is
all the times I wrote down how hot Luke Skywalker is. Oh,
I love this scene where he just stares with his jawline.
(08:58):
I said out loud, Luke is so hot. Okay, Luke
in this jacket, I said aloud again, Okay, okay. But mainly,
mainly the thing about this whole situation that man Jimmy
Stewart is not hot enough to be having immediate sexual
tension with her that we've met the three friends. My
(09:21):
question for you, fuck Mary, kill the Scarecrow. I would
fuck the Scarecrow because that guy is Limbert. And then
I would kill the Lion because his vibrato is genuinely
scary to me. Then I would marry the tin Man
because I love a guy who has no emotions. I
(09:42):
think because of my childhood, I would have to bang
the tin man and kill the scarecrow. So I'm sure
he's very good. Music was really loud, so you couldn't
really hear Gene Kelly's voice. And when you do hear
his voice, it's nothing to write home about. No, not
a very good voice. Like his butt is so good.
His voice is whatever. It's a great But how many
(10:07):
of a f I s hundred greatest movies have you
made it through so far? I think I was trying
to count, is it? Like, yeah, it's some it's about
and this was fun when we first we discovered the list.
Their website is designed as a checklist formats you can
go through and tick which ones you've seen. And I
think each of us had seen maybe two out of
the one hundred films, and it's because one of them
is Toy Story and the other one is a Lord
(10:28):
of the Rings. So those somehow snuck on the tenth
anniversary edition. Um, but now I think I think it's
twenty five. Now, I think we're a quarter of the
way through. Sienna and I both live in Los Angeles
and and any time we talked to like a straight
man about our podcast, we are just sort of accosted
with film trivia that we did not ask for, Like
(10:49):
what what what will they say? Can you guys do
a reenactment of just assist straight Man in Hollywood? Just
going oh my god, of course, Siana, what's a what
was the film that like men just kept explaining to
you about it? And you're like, stop telling me. I
think Chinatown was one of them. Okay, yeah, well we
can just pick We'll just Chinatown as an example. Okay,
oh my god, you're watching Chinatown this week? Oh a
(11:12):
newir that is like such a cool noir because it's
like modern day. Well it's like in color. Yeah, and
people also say that it's kind of like the last
classic film like before the modern era like started, and yeah,
it's planty, but like you got to separate the art
from the art, you know. And look what he does
with the watch when he puts the watch under that
(11:33):
car wheel. Do you get it? Do you get it?
When he breaks the watch under the car wheel, it
looks like what time it was when the car left?
You probably don't get it. Yeah, And there's a woman
in it. And she's like smart. I mean, you see
her boobs but like that. Yeah, I mean she's just
like there. I've also never seen Chinatown, and after listening
to your episode about it, I don't have to. Here
(12:01):
are a few sentences you can say to pretend you've
seen Chinatown. Oh yeah, that screenplay, the composition of the film,
that was good. Oh wow, that scene where there was
a portrait of FDR on the wall. Hey, what a guy.
(12:22):
I've heard that some people consider this the last classical
Hollywood picture. She did that all twirling her hair. Oh no, awful.
I loved the colors in this film, brown and beige
and green, Aaron. It made me feel bad, and that's good.
(12:48):
Somebody's I think I will I will watch. After listening
to your episode on Sunset Bullivar, I think I'd like
to watch Sunset Bolivars. It's a delight. We love her, don't. Yeah,
Norman doesn't. And but after listening to the episode on
two thousand one Space Odyssey, I'm good. If you've seen
(13:09):
any screen saver, you've seen that film, you've seen it already. Yeah,
I'm fine. I'm fine. And my favorite podcasts or something
that teach me something and your podcast has taught me
what I can just pretend that I've watched at cocktail
parties and and and old people's weddings, old people's weddings.
I love that they're getting married. I know, me too,
(13:30):
me too. I mean, just after the pandemic, somehow I've
found myself in a spate of like second and third
marriages because in my parents friend circle, it's beautiful. Life
is so long and beautiful, speaking of life being along.
(14:13):
I also like podcasts by old people or about old people.
They're like my favorite podcast. I didn't even think about
that as a genre. It's a genre. It's a genre.
Have you heard of the podcast seventy over seventy? No,
please tell us about it. Seventy over seventy is a
show they interview seventy remarkable people all over the age
of seventy and it warms my cold, dark heart. Seven
(14:38):
year olds. They've they've got some real knowledge up in
their jam. So they talked to Norman Lear, Dion Warwick,
Dan Rather, Alice Waters, who's nick the poet, Nikki Giovanni.
Her episode is just It's Chef's kiss. It's so good, Raffie.
They talked to freaking baby bluga Raffie. I can't. In fact,
(15:01):
I'm just I'm gonna play I'm gonna play you a
little bit of a Raffie episode right now, just so
you can all in love at the show. I gotta
tell you, I got two little kids, and I told
them what I was doing this morning, and it was
the first time they've been at all impressed with me. Ever,
(15:22):
you are a true, true celebrity. To those two, they
couldn't believe that I was getting a chance to talk
to you. That's enough talking about my kids. I'm interested
in you as a kid, Raffie. What was your childhood like?
I was observant. I didn't miss the thing. Oh yeah,
you know. I took in a lot of detail, and
(15:44):
it was both wonderful in the sense that I knew
that I was loved greatly, But the bewilderment was that
I didn't feel respectful for who I felt I was.
Were there children's songs in your life? Then? Uh, there
were a couple of you know, lullabys here and there
by my mother, I imagine, but they didn't feel like they,
(16:04):
you know, took a big place in my childhood. But
when I got to be doing this work with children.
Music for children, I actually had to learn word for
word children's classics such as Bob Bob, Black Sheep, Mary
had a Little Lamb. I mean, I was a folks
singer before I was a children's entertainer, and my folks
(16:24):
singing music chops actually helped me when I began to
entertain families. But you know, it's interesting. I mean, when
I look back on my life, it feels like there's
been two or three or four different periods where I
was just, you know, almost different people. Of course, you're
never really different people that you're You're just going through
phases of your life, you know. Yeah, I think that's
(16:46):
true for everybody. Well, let's talk about the phase when
you were an aspiring folk artist. Most week I've mentioned
it on the show. I hate like thready under dirty Less,
I'm like, what the hell do you know? I knew
nothing by the time I was thirty. I know nothing now.
(17:07):
I feel like a lot of our podcast does end
up roasting young people. A because a lot of people
in movies were like twenty one when they were in
a movie back in the day, but also because a
lot of the people we end up roasting are like
young guys who just don't know anything. And when you
don't know anything, then just admit that and have fun
with it. You know, that's okay. It's like the book
(17:30):
that the graduate is based on was written, I think
by a twenty four year old guy, and it's like,
come on, it's insane. You don't know anything at that age.
Speaking as someone who's the age like you know nothing,
you idiots, speaking as someone who is talking to someone
in your age. You guys know nothing, yet you will
when you're thank you so much your Saturday, and we
own that we are. We happily have the smoothest of brains.
(17:51):
I still can't figure out how much bread to buy.
That is great, and it's actually really I would think
about that yesterday. That's something that you're never going to know.
I am forty one years and I have two children,
and I never buy enough bread. I don't know, but
you know what we do. We keep it. We do
keep it in the fridge until that is stay it
lasts longer. I got some Brioche buns yesterday, thank you,
(18:14):
and put them straight in the fridge. Fell very proud.
I love a Brioche bun. They've changed the game. I've
also been doing a lot of comfort eating lately. And
there's another podcast if you guys haven't heard it, if
you like chat podcast where just like it's a cool
woman talking to other mostly cool women. Grace Dent. She
is a food editor in the UK and she has
(18:36):
a podcast called comfort Eating that just talks about food
to eat to make you happy. I'm Grace Dent and
this is Comfort Eating from the Guardian, a podcast where
we pay homage to the lesser celebrated feeds in life,
because even as a restaurant critic, I believe our favorite
fits are often the snacks we eat when we're home alone.
(18:57):
Each week, a famous guest lifts the lid on the
cool for foods that have seen them through their lives.
It turns out you can tell a lot about person
from what they eat behind closed doors. Oh, I love that.
There's um. There's another UK food podcast called off Menu.
Do you know that one? No? Oh? This is It's
(19:19):
hosted by two British comedians, and I love British comedians
and their names are James A Castor and Ed Gamble,
and they interview a guest each episode to ask about
what their dream menu would be in like the dream restaurant,
and so they go through their ideal like starter, main course, drink, dessert, side, dish,
not in that order. And it's so fun. Oh, I'm
(19:40):
they've had a lot of episodes. I'm scrolling now, Shearon,
that's so fun. I want to listen to ed Shearon's
off oh and Jamie Oliver's off menu episodes. Okay, I'm
going to add off menu to my list. I love
it when people recommend things to me. Welcome Ed to
(20:04):
the Dream Restaurants. Welcome back to the dream restaurant, but
expecting you for some time the entrance of the genie there.
Did you enjoy the entrance of the Genie? I did? Yeah,
I did. You did just say just before we started
that you were going to be more strange than you
were off. Yes, I warned, you gave you fair warning. Edge.
So it is your dream main course Nando's or we
(20:25):
going somewhere else. I'd probably go curry. I'd probably go
curry with some nan or it would be a vodka
rigatoni pasta, one of those. But really about that, I've
not heard of a vodka tony before. So it's the
first time I had it was in this restaurant in
America called Carbone, and they don't really I've never really
found it in in Italy. I think it's like an
(20:46):
Italian American creek creation. But it's like spicy, creamy tomato pasta.
And it's really great question for you. What's the deal
listen to podcasts at I still listen at normal speed,
which I know is controversial. I listen it's just like
(21:08):
normal human human talking speed. I know I should probably
speed it up. What do you guys? Do? I respect
that I do one point five, but it's because the
first time I ever played a podcast, it was on
one point five and I didn't notice. And then when
I played the next episode, it's just sounded so slow
in comparison that I've been locked in ever since to
that tempo. There's nothing else you can do. I understand.
(21:29):
Maybe that's something I'll try for this year. It's good
for those longer ones. Okay, well, I do want a
regular speed, so I sort of disagree with Leon on
that one. Okay, well, thank you, because I haven't reason
to rush through. You know, it's kind of a place
where I can take it slow. I love just listening
to a podcast, leisurely podcast. Well, doing some other chores
(21:50):
around my house. That's what I do. I'm working my
way through the apartment Therapy decluttering month, by the way,
the website apartment Therapy. Um, while I listened to your podcast. Actually,
that's what I was doing, so flattered. That's a great idea.
I should do that. Yeah, yeah, so you know, clean
our house smarter, lady. Everyone's monning. Dang, we are learning
(22:13):
so much. Well that's because you know, I have twenty
years on you, and we have so much wisdom to impart.
Imagine if I were seventy years old right now, Oh
my gosh, I love that for you, we'd be geniuses. Okay,
so what else is in your feeds? In your ears?
What else are you listening to right now? I've not
really done like narrative or fiction podcasts before, but there's
a new one called Whistle through the Shamrocks is by
(22:36):
Nicola Coglin and Camilla white Hill. And if do you
watch Britain, I haven't watched Bridgertain yet, but I've also
pretended that wat I've definitely loved that for you. Nicola's
in Bridgtain. She's also in a Netflix show called Dairy Girls,
and she was one of my favorite characters on that show.
And they the premise of Whistle Through the Shamrocks is
they wrote this play that was meant to like revive
(22:58):
the National Theater after COVID and sort of saved theater
in the UK. And that's all sort of a facade,
but it's a lot of very funny UK comedians doing
pretty terrible Irish accents during this staged reading of this
this play that the two of them wrote, and oh
I love it somewhere I'm Likla Cockland, most of you know,
(23:19):
kind of White Hill Award winning Theater and Television writer,
which awards. We wrote this play originally for the stage,
actually for the National Theater. Sadly that fell through. We
assume that they never actually got back to us, so
we decided, you know what, we don't need the support
of like the establishment to tell this story. And you know,
as the same goes, when one door closes, start a podcast,
(23:40):
I'm locked Cromwell doubling the richest man you'll ever me.
I'm going to be the chip King of Ireland. Are
terrible English landlord is going to tear down our lovely
home and build a chip factory in its place. Money,
A party of Louise and Louise. This is Patty, Johnny
told me Patty o fat in my fiance. Mommy, it's
(24:03):
bird farther, Mr Doddy, he's done a kidnap, a master
potty to potty. First he tries to take out home. No,
he takes my son Jimmy by you Reckon. It's time
for you to put our big Bi Mordern trousers on
and kill someone last night. A fierce wind and whistle,
(24:23):
throw the shamrocks. It's an ill winding and change that Elliott,
It'll mean no good. It's great and it's one of
those like classics, sort of British series where it's like
six episodes long, very very digestible, very easy to get
through pretty quickly. Ah yeah, the British. They know how
to have a beginning and an ant something. Americans have
(24:46):
just no middle grasp over here, all metal, all middle.
This show is really all middle. It's a I don't
know how to end the end the show, So guys,
those are my only questions. I want everyone to check
out Tossed Popcorn, but also too then watch the movie
before or after the episode. I think it's more fun
to watch it before so that you have your own
(25:06):
thoughts and then that I think you really laugh out
loud when you're listening to your episode. Thank you, guys,
thank you so much, so much. By that's it Pod Club.
I really believe that the moral of today's episode is
to only watch movies that bring you joy. Don't watch
(25:28):
them because they're on a list or someone told you
that you have to in order to be a smart
human in the world. Watch them because you think that
you'll like them, just like very similar to how you
should only listen to podcasts that bring you joy. And
on that note, to bring more joy in your life,
definitely listen to Talk Popcorn to recap the other shows
(25:49):
that might bring a little light in your life. We
talked about seventy over seventy, Comfort Eating with Grace dent
Off Menu, and Whistle Through the Shamrocks. Not's it for
this week, Happy Listening, Talk Soon. The pod Club is
(26:28):
hosted by me Joe Piazza. Our executive producers are Me
Again and Emily Marinoff. Our producers are Mary Do and
Darby Masters. Our associate producer is Lauren philip Our theme
and additional music was composed by Aaron Kaufman. Aaron Kaufman
is also our consulting producer and special thanks to Nikki
(26:49):
e Tor he was just a wonderful human being who
I like to think. At the end of episodes two,
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