PHG Unlocked: I Was The First Virtual Reality TV Host

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:49):
Hey, guys, welcome to the Professional Homegirl Podcast. Ishagara Ebana
here and I am super excited to introduce a brand
new series called Peace Unlock.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
In this series, I'll be sending down with some notable figures,
celebrities and more. But with a twist, my guest gets
to choose whether or not they want to conceal or
reveal their identity and yes, child, we will be distorting
their voices so there's no cheating. You don't want to
miss out on these exclusive conversations where we dive deep

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into their stories, all while keeping.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
You guessing who's really behind the voice.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Get ready to unlock some incredible stories only here on
a professional homegirl podcast. All right, welcome back to a
fire episode of the PhD Unlocked series Ishigara ebene here
and I hope all is cute. Now today we are
diving into an iconic piece of early two thousand pop culture.

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If you grew up during that time, like I did,
you know exactly what I'm talking about, the animated diva
who kept it real, dished out of and delivered the
hottest music videos on beet. During this episode, we're gonna
break down her cultural impact, explore the woman behind the
voice that brought her to life, and how does trailblazing

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personality challenge stereotypes, spoke her mind and connected with viewers
in a way that was truly ahead of its time.
So sit back, relax, and get ready for some laughs, insight,
and a trip down memory lane. Okay, as we unlock
the world of a digital queen who redefined entertainment.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
Starting now.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
All right, y'all, we have a treat for you all today.
We've been kicking for like thirty minutes. I'm like, Yo,
we gotta start recording because we've just been KEI king.
So to my guest, it is such an honor to
have you on the show. Why are you shaking your
head already?

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Here? You already know I'm not comfortable in that space. Like,
I absolutely am beyond grateful to hear you say this
and give me all these accolades. But because I don't know,
I guess I need to practice more self love. It
just feels weird, it feels cringe.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Like, no, I'm telling you, I remember watching you when
I was in class, and I always believe that God
would show you glimpses of your life through all the people.
And I really do believe that I would not be
where I was at if it wasn't for your influence.
So I know, I'm serious that I used to be
obsessed with you. So I'm just like, I'm not about

(03:26):
to get emotional, but like, I really appreciate you coming
on the show.

Speaker 4 (03:29):
Dead ass.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
This is so dope. This is so dead ass. Like
I'm so that's a beautiful thing. I really appreciate that
so so so much.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
Yeah, and it's so funny. Girl, my eyes already were,
and I'm such a cry baby.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
But it's just so funny because remember, I reached out
to you like three years ago, and I'm so happy
that we didn't. Now it was like when I first
started and I'm like, no, I'm so happy that it
didn't work out then because I feel like where I'm
at now you deserve this much and so much more.
So I'm happy that we did it.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Now. Keep making it about me says so much about you, though,
you know what I mean, and I mean that with
all sincerity. I started doing more introspective work on myself
like at least ten years ago, and you know it's
a process, but it says a lot about your character
that you turn you don't that you aren't saying like,
I'm glad to know that I've grown so much that

(04:24):
I can have You're like, yeah, I was this, now
i'm this, But it's because of you and you're here
that I feel like this is a good move and
like the timing is good. That just says so much
about you. So I'm in love already.

Speaker 5 (04:38):
Book.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
Now, how are you how you feeling?

Speaker 3 (04:45):
I already share with you. I mean, I don't feel
like that right in this moment because you've made my
day my home. But I'm absolutely this was a mazed ball,
but I know it would be. You know what I mean,
I needed this. As I shared with you, I'm feeling
a little melancholy because I relocated to a whole different country, girl,
different continent. Yes, so being a black girl out here,

(05:07):
I don't know that it's challenging because it's nothing but
brown people too, so like I haven't experienced any racism
or craziness as it relates to me being black or
actually a woman that's a different story, but being black.
So yeah, it's a little challenging today. But that's fine
because I got a pool right outside my door yesterday,

(05:27):
I don't already got girls situated in together. So I'm
gonna put on the basis suit and go sit out
there on my laptop, do some laps, just dunk my
head under. I think it gonna make me feel better.

Speaker 5 (05:39):
Good, good, What made you move?

Speaker 4 (05:41):
I'm just curious.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
So many whys? Oh, so many, I have so many
whis the word why as to why? The first and
foremost was that my mental health was hanging by a string.
You know, God blessed me with all these wonderful diagnoses.
So I got with depression at the team. Yeah, a
lot of not to be heavy or nothing, but you know,

(06:04):
you asked, so I'm gonna keep it a butt, a
lot of suicide ideation, a lot of anxiety and then
fun fun, I find out I have ADHD, which I
knew I had it, so it was just a matter
of getting the actual diagnoses. And in addition to that,
bipolar disorder. So now condo bipolar the lesser of the two.
Like I'm not gonna freak out and call everybody hitler

(06:26):
and pay my house black and you know, and didn't
spend all my money in the day. It's more just
about like mood swings. It's like a mini version. Excuse me. So,
and because I know that I take so many steps
to work through it. You know, no judgment to Kanye,
we listen, but come so you know he decided to do.
I'm only using advancing example because he's the only one

(06:49):
that's coming to mind in terms of people that are
out in the you know, celebrities or whatever. But yeah,
I take my medication. When I was talking in the US,
I drove my rode my bike as much as possible.
It was so dope to be able to just go
run errands and stuff on my bike. I as I said,
I meditate, I take my meds, I go to therapy obviously,
and I love the Lord, you know. I go to

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church and I meditate with the God in mind. So
all of those things really helped me a lot, but
it wasn't enough. It wasn't enough. I'm coming back into office,
I said. I wouldn't say that man's name, but whatever,
that guy coming back into office was just it terrified
me and I and now we're saying, like I knew,
I didn't know obviously what he was going to do exactly,

(07:31):
but that project twenty twenty five baby had me shook. Yeah,
And all I could think was like Handmaid's Tale type
of stuff. And I was again, I can't do I
can't do this. So that part and how expensive it was,
I just could not even imagine continuing to pay the
taxes and the price of living in Los Angeles is

(07:51):
just it was. I'm a free lancer, you know what
I mean. So the blessing is when I do get checked,
usually they're kind of chunky. But it wasn't enough to
sustain me in a way. That I felt safe. I
didn't feel safe, very uneasy about a lot of things.
The fact that this y'all's country now my country is
still But the US hates women, I know that for

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and hey, black women, Oh baby, we're in a chopping block.
We're always being targeted. I can't they take away the
autonomy of your own body. They take away affirmative action
d EI is like I mean, And just the stupidity
of it all. This man is in office with his
second in command. Come some why didn't you thank us?

(08:35):
What are you talking about? Bag? Like That's the kind
of thing I could not reconcile with, right. I couldn't
be under the direction of people that are not very
intelligent and that are not even good at their jobs,
and this man hires them to do a greater job,
you know what I mean. Airplanes are flying flipping on

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their backs, for baby.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
When I saw Delta on this back and that's all
I fly, I was like, nah, I ain't.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
Never seen no ship like that. That's how I know
changed book.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
Yeah, so yeah, a lot of that, you know, just
a lot of combative. I didn't feel again safe, I
didn't feel protected. I just felt like I was constantly
in anxiety, and I was exhausted with Hollywood. I'm not
even in front like that. I was feeling like a
pick me all the time. And I've been doing twenty.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
Years pioneering this. No, you are for sure for sure.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, the fact that and how crazy is it that
AI is a thing now and the meta verse and
all of that. That literally that is what we were
doing back then.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
But one thing I will say about B E. T
is that they was definitely ahead of the game. I
don't know what happened between were both doing the same thing, right,
I mean, but back in the today, especially when your
show was your show was on Hits one of a

(10:05):
part with the original hole like, it was a different
time to be alive.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
Period likely changed. I think when you put different people
at the head of things, I believe in like the
trickle down effect. I believe that whoever is heading the
organization or the whatever, they dictate how everything is going
to go. Just you know what I mean, think about
it like we just talked about the presidency, or like

(10:33):
you own a company, if you come and visit your workers,
if you provide healthcare and childcare and a gym or whatever.
You know, what I mean, things that help people with
their life work. If you're kind, if you're generous, oh
you deserve a bonus. You know, when you take a vacation,
we wouldn't we shouldn't expect you to come right back.
You know, the whole paternal health care, I mean paternal lead.

(10:56):
That's a thing in a lot of country. You're like,
no family unit. You should be off spending time. I
remember reading an article where a woman from Switzerland Switzerland
excuse me, English is my first language, was a sign
was assigned to this family and she I mean she
was the mother and she got an assignment from you know,
because the government provides like, oh, pairs to come right,

(11:20):
And she was like, how do you women do it
without one? And we like girls got to do it.
That's not even a thing. It's not all exactly so
it's not something we even hmm, but can you imagine,
like the country is really just different countries embrace you
in a different way. And again, if the head of

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a of an organization says it's going to be like this,
then people to they tend to hire like minded individuals
and even the people that's not with the ships, whatever
that may be they have to fall in line, and
so they have to be, you know, understanding of whatever
it is that's being dictated to them. So I just
really there was a lot that I just could not

(12:00):
I couldn't swallow it anymore. Again, that picked me mentality,
girl up and you created my own stuff. I have projects,
you know that I've created, but people seeing to think
you could just take your iPhone and walk around. You
still need people. You know, you need to edit, you need, yeah,
to get need to learn these things. If I've been
talented my whole life and someone thrust me in a

(12:21):
position of a producer or well, I'm a writer. I've
always been a writer too. I have journal of some degree,
so that's what I love. But still like those titles,
those hats that you have to put on. Now, don't
that costs money and resources and other people? You can't
YouTube university everything.

Speaker 4 (12:37):
You can you can. And you made a good point.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
I always say people work for people, And now that
you provided that insight, I feel like maybe the show
or other platforms that was a part of that era
just didn't have the right people to nurture it the
way that it deserves.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
I really believe that's what happened, right, Like, that's that's
my short answer, Well kind of long because I'm off,
but you know that's my to what changed. I really
believe that different people were put in place that had
a different mentality, that thought that they knew best. I
was tired of the pict me mentality, and I was
absolutely tired of trying to convince them that I know

(13:13):
about the black black woman experience and that they somehow don't.
But we know, you know, the graphic we can tell.
How would you possibly be able to tell me blass
life in my community without ever having been part of it?
You see? Ridiculous? Well, we know people, we know you know,
we've taken poles and we've had you know what they

(13:33):
call them, those focus groups? Okay, and good, great congratulations,
though that is one group of people or two or
five or how many focused groups you have that's not living, breathing, eating,
shitting every day in an or in a community where
you become the people. I remember this woman the other
day when I had my bomb as noodles the other day.

(13:55):
The woman was like, you know Eminem, and she used
him as an example to say, like, white men can
I guess be accepted in the black community. I think,
what's her point? And I was like, I don't, like,
I'm not arguing that point with you. I think that
he absolutely has become a part of our community. That's
the only people I've actually ever seen him interact with
on a regular basis. But that's because he grew up

(14:17):
in it. And he still don't say the N word.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
He know better than that and put his.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Crazy, you know what I mean, so he can support
us and be a part of us when the feel established,
recognizing the boundaries that are set, you know what I'm saying.
So it's not the same thing. And you don't get
to tell me what my life experiences like you're saying. Correct,
you know that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
You You too big and too fly to be a
pigmy to me today, it's.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
Just like damn, Like they love to dismiss the genius
and black women.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
I mean, like, come on, come on, we literally create
so much. And what do they do. They swoop in,
the colonizers, decide that this is what they want to
be a part of. They decide they're going to steal it,
make it their own, call it something else, and sell it.
Don't forget that part they always monetize it because somehow right,

(15:21):
what about the white woman girl that started her own
line of sparkly waters with fruit in it? It's spa water,
you guys, look what I did and all the like?
You mean what they call it? Damn? And now I
can't remember the thing up that was my front line?
What is the name of that day?

Speaker 4 (15:39):
Just escaped me because I know exactly what you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
But the point in you get the point, which is
they've been doing this is you talk child? How about
the white man the the video went viral? Look you guys,
a flat taco you mean a too? This is what
we're doing because I mean, they just swoop in. And
the suggestion is that somehow they're so genius, they're elevated

(16:04):
and thinking that they devised this thing, and it's just
not true. It never is. Maybe they love our rhythm,
but they can't stand out blue. They're what with trade
places with us?

Speaker 4 (16:16):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
The biggest Lebron white man fan would not be Lebron
for a.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
Day, Absolutely because he's.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
Okay, five niggas so a doing that, they're not doing that.
He's black and black.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
Black, black, his black wife and the black ass kids.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Child and the black ass kids living in a white
neighborhood but doing black Shiit exactly making schools for black
black kids and black parents.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
Right, So how did you get started?

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Because I heard in one of your other interviews that
used to be outside and your mouth was crazy.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
Used to be outside. I really really fell into the
role that I got. I mean that with Austin like I. Okay,
So I went to school. I interned at BET while
I was still in school, and I recently went to Clark.
So yeah, every time my mom would call, she said,
you over there at more House and I'm putting this month.
You know, I'm paying for school, right, this is what

(17:15):
you're telling me. And you got to see average. No,
come on back, bring that thing back. So I went
home and went to I guess it would be considered
like a community college. It isn't. It's definitely accredited. And anyway,
I ended up finishing there and I made a lot
while interning. I made a lot of friends at BT,
and so when I graduated, I simply went back. You
know what I'm saying, That was back. Maybe that was

(17:36):
the day we had to stack of resume Okay, because
you picked them out and physically hand them some people.
So I had a stack of resumes. I walked into
be et and they were literally looking for me. My
producer at the had been trying to find me to
audition for this position. So the day that I walked in,
tell me that that's not divinity, that's God all day.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
I feel like when I read this and I was
doing researching you, I feel like this was meant for you.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Like, oh my goodness. Because what happened was she took
me into different offices of higher ups, right executives, and said, okay,
that ghetto thing you do. Because I was always a
person that did voices and impressions and that sort of thing.
So when she took me in there, I was like, girl,
I don't think that's how you get a job being ghetto.

(18:22):
Get us right, because she wouldn't tell me what the
job was. So I was like, well, what do you
want me to do? He was like, can you do
the next? I said, oh my god, I'm a black woman.
Of course I could do the net? What is the net?
What happened? So, you know, and then having an accent
from where I'm from, I could put that on. So
she was a culmination of all my friends. So yeah,
I was outside all my friends. I had grewed up

(18:45):
or whatever, grewed up, and by the time this opportunity
was there, I think, you know, it was just it
was a very good fit. Yeah, I ended up in
one of the writers and oh my gosh, listen. The
one thing I remember the most about doing the show
is that the teleprompter God would always be like, can
we take a break or can can we have a meeting?

(19:06):
Because you're like reading everything and then you're not, and
then you come back and I don't know where you went,
and I don't know because ad living is something I
enjoy doing, right, so I would get into like improving
the moment or not even improving, more like ad living
the moment, and then coming back they would just be like,
I mean, I guess it's a skill, congratulations, but like
I can't keep up. So I just I felt very

(19:28):
comfortable in that role. You know.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
That's one of my questions, because I felt like you
were so like natural with her, and I'm like, how
much of that was just actually you Like it didn't
feel forced at all.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
I have to be honest, I am older now obviously,
so a lot of that reactionary behavior, a lot of
that speaking from a different place or very get away
if you will. It's not me anymore. But in that moment,
I definitely the only thing I think that made it
different is that I knew how to turn it off,
first of all. And secondly, the accent was not that pronounced.

(20:12):
I did not saynd like this every day. I wasn't
talking to nobody and being like, girl, what you about
to do?

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (20:18):
Was dragging words, okay.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
Just exactly, very DC accent, very accent. So I just
leaned into that. And all my friends that I knew
did speak that way or that, you know, and I would.
It's so funny. I remember going to see my girlfriend
because I had lived in you know, once they moved
us to LA. I would go home as much as possible.
So one time I was home and my friend was like, so,
do I get like a percentage because like, you be

(20:43):
saying shit that I I just said, girl, this is
a culmination. Okay. I didn't feel her off of you.
And do people do that? Like is that a thing
about to pay you? Friend? Like, that's just something we
all say. Granted, you probably was the first one to
say it or whatever, But that is amazing that you
I just thought that was so funny that she would

(21:04):
even that. But yeah, it was a combination and again
I can turn it off. I absolutely know how to
code switch and be in the mom.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
That's one thing black people gonna do is code switch
that they need to maybe.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
And listen the one that's you know what when you
said they reminded me of Jazmine Jasmine Crockett child that thing.
Don't cod switch for nobody.

Speaker 6 (21:23):
And I know.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
That she on the damn floor. Uh, I said ignorange,
that she the cons right. And when my lady got
authentic because she thought she was calling her a.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
Child, baby, I love her.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
She said child. I said, no, you didn't say. Car said,
I am not a child.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
You say what Karen was like, I am not a child.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
I will see you outside about the.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
Fighting as a baby girl.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
She went to pieces of hell. I'd even squabble up love.
You don't want to see that, none of that. But
I did think that was hella funny that she misinterpreted
the word, because it's our language, how we speak, and
that was just the best. So yeah, to answer your
question again a long winded I was outside for sure,

(22:16):
and I was just speaking, you know what I'm saying,
like we speak, but the difference is like I knew
how to navigate other spaces without that being my binacular.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Yeah, and we're gonna talk about the backlash later. But
I also feel like just the overall look her ecstatics,
her voice, and attitude, I feel like that was very
intentional as well, because that's how y'all was able to
reach the broad of masses and people look like me,
my mom and my aunt all this other stuff.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
Like right right, right, here's the thing. I had nothing
to do with the drawing. It was actually based on
a woman named Sita, but s it t a She
drew the and I think it was just her brainchild.
And when she decided, you know, just like you said,
it was like maybe a whole group of people made
for this one, like, oh, we love mini skirits, so

(23:05):
we got the guy right in the short hair. I
think there was a lot of that that went into it.
I don't know. I spoke to her maybe twice in
my whole life, so I don't know what the inspiration
behind it was. Yeah, because it didn't work at BT.
I don't think gird ca it's a long time ago,
but I do know that her name was seated with
the nests, and I know that they loved the drawing

(23:26):
that she did and decided to make that the girl.
I think it's unfortunate, though, to be tv H that
they did not explore the AI and the metaverse the
way they could have. You know what I said, It
was so so like now, I've done video games, right,
and I'm sure you know now we all know that

(23:46):
video games are done with the balls, the little dots
that they placed all the face all over the body,
and that tracts your movements so that you're able to
move around and you become the character that you are,
whatever that may be. Okay, that's what they did for me.
But because it was so new, I literally had like
little clamps all over the suit that I would put on,

(24:07):
and they had to clamp long cords to them so
I could only move but so far on the stage
that they had built for me without it lit like
clinching exactly, because that's where we were in terms of technology,
like it was there, but it was so new that
they had like nuanced what it is that it could

(24:29):
have been. You know, me and my producer baby. We
used to We used to pitch to them all. Steven
Hill was the vice president of programming at Music Programming
at that time, and we were constantly in his office
like why she don't got a dog washing? Can we
ever go to her house? She don't live in this place?
Like they find set right, So I remember the set

(24:49):
where doors would open the door, what is the door?
What's the point of the door, and just come from
the side when they don't open the day of elevator,
that was the point of that. So there were a
lot of that we were dad set on incorporating to
make her more well rounded and again more relatable. Like
you said, but it costs a lot of money. I mean,

(25:11):
oh my gosh, girl, we had so many we talked
to puff I know where it is now. But then
Shawn John was a vibe right the world. So we
wanted to give like a Seawn John outfit. We had
Steve Stout on on dial with speed dial because he
would have been rebark at the time. We was like,

(25:32):
you know, she deserves to have on a pair of
rebox on a day right on a poster on a
Why can I talk to the billboard? So yeah, we
pictured ideas like that all the time. So many companies
wanted to partner with us and create the thing. I
don't know. I don't have an answer as to why
that work didn't work. But we listen, we had some

(25:53):
great ideas and it was.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
A lot of miss opportunities. But then it makes sense
we because she was the first of AI.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
Yes, but at the same time, what is the point
of having this kind of technology and this opportunity if
you don't push the push it right exactly. Let's go
see what else she can do, and that show might
have still been on the air today. Fact, had she
had opportunity to create a world for herself, you know
what I mean, and not have it just be relegated
to a room you need.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
To want to have had some kids, one of her daughters.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Good man, Well, at least little baby Daddy something right, Yeah,
Buffalo baby Daddy is to be honest, but so saying right.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
But I think that's the reason why people gravitated towards her,
because she was so like, she resonated with all of us,
and despite where she come from and the way she's sounded,
she was very educated.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
Listen, I'm so glad you recognized that absolutely, because that
would be the pushback that we were constantly. We gave
her a backstory, We fleshed her out completely, so she
had you were free, right. She definitely lived in a
neighborhood that was a little interspersed with different nationalities, different ethnicities,
different racists. There was not she was not a one man.

(27:13):
There's not one note. There was lots of new lay exactly,
and I think it's unfortunate that people weren't able to see.
All they heard was the way that she spoke. And
our whole thing was but if she spoke like this
and told the children you better go to school, you know,
better do your homework, who the hell's listen to that?
Kids home from school to see ce So like you

(27:33):
hear somebody talk like them, because the message has to
be something that again resonates with them. They need to
know that this girl, this woman, it's their friend. You
know you're again safe. Right. It's always a matter of thinking.
People might not remember what you're saying, but they always.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
Remember how make them feel.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
And if you can create that feeling through the TV
enough that people are like because listen, in the first
year it was jam Zone.

Speaker 4 (28:01):
Now she got popular transitions go.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Through the Now it's a two hour show and they
named it after the character. I think that says a lot.
I really do in terms of her popularity and the
people that were really shit. I got Tracy, my producer,
and I we got interviewed by Dateline, I mean Nightline. Yeah,
take take Copple. I mean, they could have done so

(28:26):
much more with it, so you know, regrets, we don't
have any of those, And what is the point? I mean, well,
we do so we can learn. But you know what
I mean, like I doesn't I'm not bad mouthing BT
by any stretch. I'm simply stating the truth, which is
I believe that Tracy and our ideas could have been
created in a way that caught up with what we're
doing now. You know what I mean, Like if that

(28:46):
would have come now and it's still nothing like it, Well,
we don't listen to the music videos and we don't
watch music videos the same way. But still like she
could have gone on to do all. She could have
been a talk show host, you know, yeah, all kinds of.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
There has so many the brand and the partnerships, the
different platforms.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
Cela could have had a podcast like she.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
Mercher.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
She could have been on tour.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
Oh my god, would have been amazing. Yeah, they didn't
have that vision at the time. And again I'm not
really sure. I just know we definitely pitched it to them.
That's what we thought, more and more like how can
we make this grow exponentially? And they said, well, you can't,
no more you can.

Speaker 7 (29:34):
So Yeah, that was that, this is the moment of truth.
Will our guests reveal their identity or keep it concealed?
The choice is yours to reveal or conceal? What will
it be?

Speaker 3 (29:48):
No, I absolutely want to reveal. But I think everybody
that's black anyway, if you have listeners from a different,
different ethnicity, different group, different, you know, white you're listening,
then maybe they do not, maybe they're not familiar. But yeah,
I think y'all know.

Speaker 5 (30:04):
I yes, introduce yourself.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
It us your name, your real name, where are you from?

Speaker 5 (30:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Yeah, so my real name as in my government when
my mama had named me. Y'all don't get to know that,
and all you gotta do is Google. You'll find it. Yeah,
But I go by Kitti Kaboom. I'm a Washington, DC
native born and raised.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
I've been telling my friends about this episode because I've obviously,
I've been super excited, and my friend's been sending me
clips of Cina.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
So I've been reading the comments and I'm just like wow, because.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
You've been at Google who Ceda is? But a lot
of people do not know? I know, right, how does that?

Speaker 3 (30:55):
People don't read too well?

Speaker 4 (30:57):
I can't read, but that's another conversation.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
That's a whole nother place exactly. But the average person,
they're not putting up books, they're not doing anything articles.
They just they talk with their chest, having no knowledge
of the subject matter it. You know, right, this guy
is the best do we know? Like Izzy? Though? Izzy,
it's an opinion, right, and it's subjective, and that's fine

(31:24):
for y'all. Y'all don't want to read. I'm a readers
like to read. Intelligence is definitely a thing for me.
I think it's so sexy, confident, it's very much. I
think I'm gonna safe your sexual Okay, y'all meanskay, okay,
you find at chick, don't come over here dumb. Sorry,
I don't do dumb. That's rude. I didn't mean that,

(31:46):
people you said all the time, So okay, good. I
feel better about saying it, but it's still me. Uh
but yeah, that's why I am. I. I'm a voice actor,
is what I do professionally. I have a podcast that
I probably won't be doing too much longer because I'm

(32:06):
hearing Bali and my my partners there and the time
change and all of the things are not very conducive
to that. But yeah, that is primarily what I do.
I do a lot of animation, which I'm very proud
of Disney, Nickelodeon, The Boondocks. Everybody know about the boon Dogs,
everybody white folks. Yeah, I was the sweetest taboo baby

(32:32):
if you remember, was the bottom bitch for uh a pimp,
a bit of a pimping slip back, you know, uh
bottom of bit. That's his favorite girl. So yeah, she
cussed out Usher. Will cussed out the guy about Usher.
And yeah, I absolutely love, love love what I do.
I recently did some video games. Super excited about that. Cool,

(32:54):
I've written a book. Yeah, I mean using my voice
in any capacity is definitely a vibe. Like That's what
I love, love, love to do. Being here in Bali,
I'm really excited about learning the language that I can
become an interpreter. I'd love to have a pot out
there as well. Bring people on my journey from you know,

(33:15):
La to here is a thing. And as you mentioned earlier,
you know, a lot of us are just afraid to
make that move, not just to not even to move
here for for good, but even to visit. You know,
it's like, oh my god, where are we going? You know,
it's the unknown.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
So again, you don't read, You wouldn't know the things
about Holli that make it so enticing. It's just a beauty,
beautiful aesthetically, it's beautiful. And the people all right, it's
just a different situation altogether, even the people that have moved,
you know, and are not actually Indonesian people. You adopt
this way of just like kind of just going with

(33:51):
the flow, you know, and productive, but.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
The lifestyle is way different than how.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
A right, nobody's rushing. I mean, they have things to do,
and as I said, you know, deadlines are met, but
not with the same kind of intensity, not with the
deadline that like loose over your head if you don't
do this right right.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Yeah, And so you did a lot of acting, animations
and commercials.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
What has been your favorite character and why.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
We'll see the dost top the list, I have to say,
because it just has so many layers in terms of
what it did for me. It was my first job
and it kind of just blew up out of nowhere.
I didn't I don't think any of us expected it
to do so well, even though it was relegated to
just our community for the most part. Like when I
got this new agent and girl, I was like, okay,
so you saw seed the I've already introduced what that's

(34:44):
all about. I need you to make me white people famous,
not just black people.

Speaker 5 (34:49):
White people famous.

Speaker 4 (34:50):
Then you're at a different level exactly.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
But you know, she didn't understand that one. She's like,
do you mean stream? I said, shure a call to
whatever you want. But you know what I mean, white folks.
You know, once y'all buy into it, it's actually I think,
so yeah, that was okay, then it's a thing. So
I have to say she tops the list. But I
also did Tricksy if you saw. But Tricksy was on

(35:16):
American Dragon Show that did really well as well. It
was on for like maybe three years, I think, and
then they put it back on Disney. Plus. That was
beautiful because residuals Okay, okay, but yeah, I enjoyed doing
her simply because, just like you, they made me feel
very welcome. I remember the first time I recorded the show,

(35:39):
the director, the producer, and the writer came out of
the book because you know, they're we're on different side.
We're in the same room, but glass separates us, and
so you're like the opposite side exactly. But there's the
glass that I can see them, and they can, you know,
push the button and be like, just like if you
were singing the same thing, if you were rapping the singer.
So they come out and they're like, we really just

(35:59):
want to thank you did a great job. We're off
to a great start. We're really excited. I'm gonna you're
still gonna pay me right, Like what why are you
out here? I don't get it, And they were like,
what do you mean? We just of course we're gonna
pay you, Like we just wanted to let you know
you're appreciated and not bad mouthing, b et, But I
have to speak my truth, which is I constantly felt

(36:19):
like I was supposed to be thinking them like that
was an every day when I first got the job. Obviously,
I'm super grateful and I did thank them all the time,
but I earned this now at this point, right, like,
this is what I do when it seems to be
working out. So why do I feel like I have
to kiss the ring all the time?

Speaker 5 (36:38):
And how long? What you're doing?

Speaker 3 (36:39):
Cea four years? Wow?

Speaker 4 (36:43):
And I still gotta kiss the ring?

Speaker 3 (36:45):
Listen? Okay, and like you we gonna replace it everybody,
And you're right, people are replaceable obviously. You know it
does a you know, you could have found someone else
in this mouth of mine. I almost got placed once
or twice.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
Okay, that's my next question. Have you ever said something?
And he was like, oh shit, I probably shouldn't have
said that.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
Oh gosh, you mean in my lifetime or in the
in the room class. Oh, I see the absolutely as
I said, I found out. I don't remember how I
found out. I think somebody said something to me directly
because they didn't know it was a secret, and they
were like, girl, what you wanna do? Because they out
here again paper was a thing, so they were putting
up literal flyers. Right. This wasn't like let's announce it

(37:28):
on ig. This was literally walking out and telling people
we're holding auditions for this new show. She's a music
video host. They didn't say what it was, replace you. Yes, yes,
this moth the mine Wow. Kept They're very grateful for growth,

(37:48):
grateful for as I said, in her work, okay, doing
what replace you. I didn't hear that because I just
I would pop off. You know, I don't think I
ever thought that. I in fact, I know I've never
gotten to a place where I thought like I'm in
charge or I'm a big deal. I just think that
I got a little too comfortable, I'll say that, a
little too comfortable in the role, a little too like

(38:11):
I nigga, like you mean, like I just very pushed back,
very aggressive. I mean, and that's always who I was
at that time. That's who I was. So it wasn't
bringing a new energy as in like I'm a big deal,
so you have to do what I air or whatever.
It was literally just an extension of who I already was.

(38:33):
And I just did not recognize that there are people.
This is a team effort. This is not all about you, okay,
And I need you to not only do you need
to calm it down, you probably need to do some bakings.
You need to walk around and appreciate the people that
are actually making this come to fruition.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
So yeah, yeah, but I was gonna say, I feel
like if they probably would have received your ideas and
tracy ideas and at least try, maybe you wouldn't give
them so much push back.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
Well, again, I think that I was that person at
the time, you know what I mean. So I probably
still had a little spicy mouthwaoming, But I do think, yeah,
it would have been a lot easier to work with
everybody had we had the opportunity to explore all the
options that we that were presented to us. Quite honestly,
people were pitching to us left and right. Bro, they
wanted so.

Speaker 4 (39:23):
Much money left on the table, so.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
Much money that they left on the table. Yeah, I
think it was I'm not gonna say it was Stephen
Hill's ego, but I think it was a b et
ego thing. Yeah, you know what I mean, we know
best what's for the show. Again, going back to the execs,
thinking that they know more than the actual people that
are putting this thing together hands on, you know, on
a daily basis, Like that was definitely my greatest job.

(39:48):
It was a good check at the time, and I
know that check was cute maybe, and we were quite
a week, you know. I come in one day, we write,
I come in another day, we shoot and that was it.
And we we were doing like that. We would do
like girl like morning the nighttime, talking about eight in
the morning, call time, wrapping at like nine and not
well maybe not that, like maybe like six in the evening.

(40:10):
It was an all day think for sure. So by
the end of the day I was exhausted. But I
mean we you know, so it definitely was worth it.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
How do you think Cita would have been received in
social media? Because social media wasn't out during that time,
So how do you think she was, Like, how do
you think black Twitter or Instagram or TikTok would have
received her?

Speaker 3 (40:40):
Stephen Hill, No, Cita, Oh Cita. Oh my gosh. I'm
gonna tell you this little anecdote and I think this
will speak to hopefully this will answer your question. When
we were in COVID twenty twenty, the BET Awards were
fastly approaching. I do not know this man, but he

(41:01):
started a basically a campaign that said, how dare y'all
go virtual and not have sea like y'all just disrespectful
at this point, you're playing in our face.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
We want to think about that, right, So.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
It went out to the masses and everybody was weighing in.
Lots of people did not want that to happen. They
do not like see that, which is their right to
feel their fields. But a lot more people did want
it to happen and were a part of the petition.
So it had been like read what the hell is
it called? Retweeted over one hundred thousand times. Everybody got involved,

(41:37):
like it was a bit. It was like a movement
to the point where my proud baby ass was in tears,
like this is really a thing. Like even if they
bt decides to decline the offer if you will, or
the suggestion, it's still feeling my heart to just think
that people, especially whom I've never met, these men that
began it to begin with, I don't know these people.

(41:58):
They don't have time, but they're fighting for me.

Speaker 6 (42:01):
Girl.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
They out of here. They they doing it. So yeah,
that was pretty amazing. So to answer your question, I
feel like it would be a whole mood. I really really.
I just think see there would be because think about
the possibilities. Oh my gosh, have a YouTube show it
wouldn't even need you know, YouTube is making a big

(42:22):
like watching any more. The kids are not watching Netflix, baby,
The kids are watching YouTube, period, am I right?

Speaker 4 (42:29):
So I even watch YouTube then, like I love YouTube.

Speaker 6 (42:33):
We go see imagine how far she could have gone
in these different lanes, Like she really could have you know,
again back to the merge and the movie and the
as you said on tour, you know, if you had
the right equipment, she could be in Japan doing her thing.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
There's no reason to watch or Bali you know.

Speaker 4 (42:55):
Oh my god, I see the twenty years later.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
Oh my god, amazing.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
Right, So, speaking of the backlash, how did you feel
that people felt like Cela was like too ghetto or
too loud? Like do you feel like people felt like
that because she was also black?

Speaker 3 (43:12):
Oh yeah, I mean absolutely. I don't know too many
Well I about say, I don't know too many white yet.
That's ridiculous, of course we do. We just call them
trading trash or right, you know, they just ran next right,
we know them, well me just like they just like, okay,
how about a day you her who is now like
a millionaire or some craziness. Anyway, Yeah, the backlash at

(43:36):
the time, I think it hurt my feelings a little
bit because I was way more sensitive if you can imagine,
because I'm a fry baby now as well. Such an impact,
But it didn't affect me in a way. It ain't
stop nothing, you know what I mean, because I knew
that I still had a majority of people that did
enjoy her and look forward to seeing her, and the
show was still successful that it didn't like take me

(43:56):
out or have me crying and stuff. But it also
wasn't what it is now, as we said, right, it
wasn't like all day every day, all day every day
we would hear people, we would hear rumors, we would
hear rumblings of it, whispers, and then we would get
letters because you know, this was when letters written, bags
and bags of letters. Remember that was a segment. We

(44:18):
would read a letter at the show and shout out
the person that wrote it. Everybody need MoMA was like,
you will say my name, oh my god, you want
to show the show, And I'd be like, why is
this a big deal? Again, not really understanding the levity
right or the bigness of it all. So yeah, I
think that at the time I took it in and

(44:39):
it hurt a little bit, but our buddle every time
was you just don't get it. There's no way that
these children, or not even that the audience would be
able or willing, I should say to watch this program
if she was not speaking their language. That's not to
say everybody out there is ghetto. It's to say that
black folks has a specific language, a specific way of communicating. Yeah,

(45:04):
it's universal, right, and even when it's not understood by
white folks, there's still a level of respect there because
you know, the numbers or the attention being made to it.
At the time, it hurt, but it wasn't anywhere near
what it could have been. Like I just keep thinking
about you know, TikTok and Twitter and all the things

(45:25):
that they would say today. I think it might crush Yeah,
it might have crushed me. Oh yeah, you know, not
just once a week like girls they just calling her
a dumb ass beach, Like why would they say that?
You know, it would be a lot.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
But I think gen Z would appreciate see that, because
gen Z telling like how that is I don't play.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
Huh no cut cars baby, okay, And they know how
they know how to galvanize. They know how to come
together and find a movement. Right when they were talking
about the you know, the the global warming is not
a thing them things was sanging. Okay, they came together,
were born in Washington, d C. On the floor of
the freaking not the White House. They went to the

(46:07):
Capitol and we're like, nah, y'all not about to do this.
We weird, it's our generating. We have to deal with
your messes. And I just thought that was so honorable
and so amazing, Like who knew?

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Yeah, were they discussions with BT where they feel like
they tried to like soften or tone her down.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
I think the only time that happened is when Debbie
what was Debbie's last name, the woman that deboraally was
put in charge, you know, she took over for mister Johnson.
She didn't like to see that at all, and I'm
pretty sure that's why we got canceled. She felt that
it did exactly what the naysayer said it did, which

(46:49):
was to give BT a put us in a bad light,
and it it publicized or created propaganda about black people
and how we communicate that was not induced to what
she wanted the message of BT to be. She felt
that it was okay because she's ascute, So she was like,

(47:13):
what is this? We can't right. I've never had a
conversation with her, so I don't know that that's the case.
And even if I did, I believe that she's how
should we say professional enough that she would not have said,
you know, I really don't care for your show. I
don't think she just said that because she the you know,
the politics of it all. But that's what I heard

(47:34):
that she didn't like it, and that's why we went
down because the numbers never faltered like we weren't. There
was nothing that said that we should be cut. It
was literally just a matter of opinion and her I
don't like it, so we got to do.

Speaker 4 (47:47):
I don't remember how Sitah ended, but didn't get a
proper sin off.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
But that's kind of is that not entertainment? Somebody's on
the radio today, and yeah, I mean Williams had Wendy
Wilions experience for how long? Puffy jumped out there and
stays she called me gay? She said, I'm gay. Fuck her,
get her off the air, which, of course, now we
know you do like dingling, and that's her right. Get
the old click you get all the giggling you want

(48:15):
right about now? Can you imagine to see that? Baby?
That would be talk. We had a whole segment.

Speaker 4 (48:22):
I have a segment, baby, I got a question for it.
But we're gonna get there.

Speaker 5 (48:25):
We're almost there.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
Okay, yeah, again that's what I heard, you know, but
again she was on the air and then now she's
in Philly. Niggas was like, what happened? Happened? For the
reasoning how it works, there's no like so I'm leaving
the station and most of the time they don't even
know until the day before. That's the hosts or you know,

(48:49):
the radio personalities. Yeah, they don't even know until they do, right,
that's yeah. The only reason I knew is because I
reached out to my attorney about something else. He was like, yeah,
so I just got a fact how long ago that
the fact that said that you're getting two more checks
and this is the end of an error. And I

(49:10):
was like, wait, what's happening.

Speaker 4 (49:12):
After four years?

Speaker 3 (49:14):
Girl?

Speaker 4 (49:15):
And that's what it's like picking up Like if we posted.

Speaker 3 (49:18):
The numbers, our numbers were never the issue. I know
that for a fact. Chris Tracy was on top of that,
and she made sure that she watched that in an
attempt to better us, you know, to take the flack
and make adjustments and changes, you know, according to what
the feedback was or what we were able to do,
what they allowed us to do. Right. She was definitely
hands on producer. It's so good at her job, amazing,

(49:41):
but it did not match her darling. I wasn't able
to finesse it into something greater. I think that's what
probably bothered me the most about it. I felt like, Okay,
if she's at this level of success, shouldn't I be
able to you know, create something else or have an
agent and or manager that can see a vision as
to what this might look like like in a different space,

(50:03):
even if you know, a motion capture was not a
thing background really because they didn't know about it. Shouldn't
this be able to cannot be like a voiceover of
my own show. Shouldn't somebody write you know? And again,
I didn't know how to move that needle forward on
my own, you know. In my defense, so had I

(50:25):
known then what I know now, I would have wrote
a show. I would have gotten a meeting with you know,
maybe not a Disney, but you know, some streaming service
that would enjoy, you know, having us on board and
creating a different subject matter obviously because music videos are
no longer, but something that made sense for the masses.

(50:46):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 6 (50:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (50:49):
I produced my own stuff. I'm directing my own animated
short right now in a with in conjunction with the
co Op program at Pixar. Super excited about that. Oh nice, congratulations,
that's time shout out to my feet. They're amazing. So
yeah that I just think it's unfortunate that it just stopped,
and then everything stopped, you know, and I lived in

(51:11):
la I didn't even I had never even visited there.
Kind of like Polly decided to go, Well, they decided
that they were going to send us, right and so yeah,
an agent. But again they didn't see the vision. They
didn't even understand see it because they're in a different world.
These white folks don't know what that is. So even
introducing them and telling them the numbers and the momentum
and all of the things that I think they respected

(51:31):
in it because they brought me on board, put me
on their roster, but I don't think that they understood it.
You know.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
So if VNC was to approach you and they were like, listen,
let's just revive see the world.

Speaker 5 (51:41):
Would you do it?

Speaker 3 (51:45):
I think I would do it because it would be
a steady check, right and as a freelancer, that's what
we always hope for, doing something that we love to
do while making money doing it, right. So I think
I've opened to it. You know, it would depends. Yeah,
I would definitely explore it. I wouldn't turn them down immediately. Why,

(52:08):
you know what I mean? It's something that especially if
they allowed me to be an integral part of it
more than just the host. Am I helping to write it?
Am I helping to produce it? You know? I don't
need to direct it, but producing writing I need to be.
I need to wear those hats as well. And they
did do like a little baby Reo.

Speaker 4 (52:24):
I was gonna say, did she? Did she come back?

Speaker 5 (52:26):
But what was up with that?

Speaker 3 (52:28):
There was a show called did I forget the name
of the show?

Speaker 4 (52:32):
That's how you know?

Speaker 3 (52:35):
Right? It was once Sea. They had Nibya. They had
those twin sisters that are that The very first show
they was telling girls, Oh we're millionaires. Okay, anyway, the
twins they had Nibia, They had. Who else was it? Oh,
the young lady from God DRN. I can't remember anything
right now? Hello, Hello, it's going to her husband, Bobby Brown.

(53:02):
What's the name of that group?

Speaker 4 (53:04):
Oh uh mean condition.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
Condition Bobby Brown? Babe.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
No no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no new addition,
were both from here.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
I'm not the only have a little brain parts? Okay,
So was a condition that right, the light skendidate one.

Speaker 4 (53:24):
Because his his wife was on that TV show.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
That's the show I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and
they had as like she would like pop in and
out to give them what the next thing was that
they had to do, or what the next challenge was
that they needed to be aware of or what you know,
Make sure you're ready tomorrow because the stylist is going
to come and have y'all been practicing again? Underutilized? Have
you ever seen the show The Circle?

Speaker 4 (53:48):
Mm hmm heard the show?

Speaker 3 (53:51):
Okay, So it's a reality show. They put people in
these apartment buildings, all in the same actual building. They
have no electronic anything, but they are being filmed twenty
four hours and the Circle is what shows up on
their TV to tell them what to do, and they
do challenges and situations, and they all buy for top
spot for the right excuse me, and some of them

(54:13):
can be catfish. You don't have to go in as Ebaney.
Maybe you pretend that you're your brother because you know
him so well, and you speak to everybody in the
little chat that they create as your brother. Okay, So
with that said, the host that's never seen all she
does is vo but it's so well done. Is that
Michelle woman. She's kind of curvy, she's a she's a

(54:35):
very successful actress right now, but she started doing doing
stand up. God darn it, I can't remember.

Speaker 4 (54:41):
No, Oh Michelle, she's like skinned bo.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
Yes, he likes yes, girl, she likes skin to do. Yeah.
She does the v and it's so well done. And
I don't know if she writes it, but maybe. Again,
she's a comedian, so she'll say things like you know
the guys in there, like, oh, I know I'm winning
this one. You know what I'm saying. You can't tell
me nothing, And then she'll be like, Okay, might be
a little premature, but if you say so, baby, like

(55:07):
you know, I love that. And there was a chance
for them to do that with Sita in this space,
and they chose not to once again. You know, all
they had her do was show up every blue moon
and say what she said. There was no interaction. You know,
I dope. That would be if I could actually Tita
could go and sit on couch with the girls, if
she could come up, you know, they come down for

(55:27):
breakfast in the morning. I got you bag you. I
already got the pancakes popping. What's your drinking coffee and tea?
What we're doing, what we're doing, oints, stoot, what you need?
That could have been anyway. Again, there was lots of
talk about doing this or that, and nothing came to it.

Speaker 4 (55:42):
Yeah, can you pitch your own show?

Speaker 3 (55:46):
You have to actually get what's called the general or
actually they have specific meetings, but a general just means like,
this is our talent. We think she can do many things.
Let's have a meeting with the execs of this particular
streaming channel or YouTube I guess, or you know, whatever
the business is, and let her pitch herself. And then
you guys say, yeah, we think she's dope too. Let's

(56:08):
create something together.

Speaker 4 (56:08):
Because I really do that Cina has a chance.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
I do well. Again, I'm not at a level where
I can just call up my agent and be like, well,
I mean I'm at a level work called my agent.
I'm not at a level where I can directly, you know,
reach out to them and say this is what I
want to do. And I told you soon as I
signed with my current agent, that is what I said.
Make me white famous and yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
Yes, well listen from your amounts of guy's ears happen,
yeah yeah, yeah, now and Seina's voice. If she would
make a comeback today, what do you think she would
have to say about the following topics?

Speaker 3 (56:49):
It's fun, yeah, diddy, this nigga play too much, Like
why in the hell would you be a rico all
by yourself? Niggas like all by like you dead ass

(57:12):
was thirty years you is thirty years in of just
torturing people, girls, boys, children. Shit. I wouldn't be surprised
if they said the little dogg he came by and
he said, give me some of that, give me, give
me that ass, give you that as a little bitch.
Come on a little bit like he really don't got
no cock cards, Like he really just be like, Hey,

(57:32):
I love sex so much, I gotta do illegal ship
to make myself, make my shit come like God can't
even get hard less. I'm treating people bad, Like what
is happening? Cham When is the fuck is going on?
All the thing I know for sure? One thing for
you too, for certain, that ain't never getting out ever, ever, ever,
ever either. And if you do, i'm'na be real surprised.

(57:54):
Because Epstein's and the Wine scenes they in there for
life too, because they turned human beings as well. That
Nigga is evilill, Okay, he is evil, And if it
was up to me, I would be sitting front row
in sensor telling that motherfucker you ain't never coming home.
And you want it now, you get all the all
the little bussy that you want. That's what it is.

(58:17):
A butt pussy. I gonna get you some butt pussy boot.

Speaker 5 (58:21):
Oh the butts okay.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
Kamala Harris, Oh, y'all know how my heart beat, palpatite,
y'all know how I be. I'll begin into eggs. So
when she got in a mix and everybody was behind her,
white man for Kamala, the mother akas for Kamala, everybody

(58:44):
had a little group talk about we fucks with her,
only to turn around and y'all you know what's real pattitude.
It ain't even about like, oh they love Trump. I
had heard they don't fuck with Trump either, but they
fuck with that nigga enough that they don't fuck with
a black an Indian woman. And that is a turn.
That is So you're gonna tell me, you're gonna pick

(59:07):
that man who ain't nothing but evenil himself, pure deep,
and he ain't even lie to nobody. He sights it
up and say I'm gonna do this, and then doth
know he told y'all shaft that man on a campaign trail,
mimbicking blowjob? What the fuck? Type? This what we live at,
This what we do when we get here. Okay, so

(59:29):
that is my heart right for you or whatever? Like
I wish I could just come a hug you like girl,
you ain't deserve that, girl, because you was the bomb,
and we already know our country. I'm gonna be doing
so much to better if you was funning it. You
know what I'm saying. I believed it in you, in you.
Everybody did. But I just think, you know, middle of
America said we're ignorant, we don't read books, we don't

(59:52):
know about all that black Indian ship. We just know
she a woman and she got all them different and
every time we see her, she laughed saying, fuck it's
so funny. So we ain't woting for her. Fuck her.
So I would just say to Kamela, girl, come on
over here. I'm gonna make you some fried chicken. You
know what I'm saying. Since they say we black and
black black and we you know, get over there. I'm

(01:00:13):
gonna havesk some watermelon for the dessert. Fucket, some sweet tea.
Get you some mop fucking greens like my mama make them.
It makes us feel better. It'll always makes you feel
better when you eat that comfort food. So come through.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
I got you, and last but not least, because we
know you never liked him because of his music.

Speaker 4 (01:00:32):
Nellie's spinning the block with his shunte.

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
No with that way, I ain't gonna hold you sorry.
I mean it was good about that. A part of
me be like, girl, you carefool. I'm saying, keep one
eye open cause I don't know you. I ain't ever
met you or nothing, but I heard you a good girl.
You always got a smile on your face. You look
like you're sweet tea. And before you got back all

(01:00:55):
up in the news. All I ever heard was you
look and find this fuck in this building in this
part of the world, and then you vacationing in that
part of the world. Okay. So I don't know if
you were still singing and doing your thing, because the
thing things, the thing, you know, but I know you
was loving life, Okay. So if this nigga made come
back to you and you were feeling it enough to

(01:01:16):
entertain and have a baby getting married, all that, I
just because that that main. I mean, he just got
charged with some other sucking drugs. That nigga doing extasy.
See who the fuck is still doing maley nigga? That
shit is corny and you're like, what smoke a blunt
and be happy? Like, I don't get it. All I'm
saying is I'm happy for them if they happy they

(01:01:36):
had a baby and all that. That thing waited forty
years old to have a baby. Who's mad. I'm not
mad it nothing, the fact that's a thing baby. She
waited and I guess she felt like this was the
right time or whatever, and maybe he instant we are
But I tell you what, thing, this is what I
love When they show pictures of Nelly with his baying
my ass when they show pictures and Nellie and he'd

(01:01:57):
be with the current girlfriend chair. He'd be looking like
a like you don't want to get there, like somebody
has said, and you got to stand next to this girl.
You got this your girlfriend that could get into it.

Speaker 5 (01:02:07):
He'd be happy as hell with a shanty.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
Bad that that I just wide open. That's right, shock
nothing but baby Okay, he listen, barely, be smiling so
hard you can see the little thing dangling in the
back of I said, truth, you know what I mean.
He's happy for that for real, for real, I mean,

(01:02:30):
I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:02:30):
You're not kiddy.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
This has been a treat like you have made my year.
Like seriously, I really appreciate you.

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
Oh, I appreciate your blessing. He have this kind of
communication and it's obviously this vibe, you know what I mean,
Like we I get it. I feel it. I feel
the love.

Speaker 4 (01:02:51):
So say me too, me too.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
Tell everybody where they can follow you, at where they
can reach you, at the new shows. We can support
you at.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
Oh, thank you well. I have not posted in a
long time. Yes, right, show niggers, because I am BALI
So I really wanted to document this trip, and I
really wanted to show case the whole move and what
that looks like. And I ain't gonna hold you. I'm
not an editor, okay, so it's taking me a little
longer to edit these videos so they can be professional,

(01:03:20):
and I just throw them at you. Yes, I'm about
to listen, That's exactly what I'm about to do. And
I'm university teaching myself as well. And I met a
couple of black women out here who are doing the
same thing, and I love it all doing the same
thing but in a different way, you know what I mean.
Like one of the girls is just she's very poised.

(01:03:41):
Her brand is to sit on a couch with a
cup of tea and tell you about the best places
to eat and baldly and tell you about whatever. You
know what I mean, Like it's a whole vibe. Listen, guys,
this is a great place to come. If you come
to Bali, you gotta come to the sunrise. Like that's
her thing, and I love it for her. But I'm
gonna be me, so I beat to the other people.
I did the other day. I lost my damn debit card. Girl.

(01:04:06):
The blasting is nobody found it and used it. They
don't be doing shisty shit. I mean, people are people,
but it's not.

Speaker 4 (01:04:13):
It's not safe the states, right.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
So with that said, I had to figure it out obviously,
and then USPS. They can't ship stuff here, like my
bank couldn't just send it directly to me. So I
just sended my friend. My girlfriend, she had to expedition.
It was the whole thing. My point is I had
money and couldn't get to it. Can you imagine I
woke up recognizing that that was my day and what

(01:04:38):
I was going to have to get into in order
to try to rectify this. I had on a bonnet,
I had on my little imasked with the hello Kitty thing.
I'm sending it crying on a camera because I believe
that I'm not saying that she's doing quite well. She's
monetized that it's doing great, and I'm sure other people
are as well. But I know for me, I didn't
want I felt like that would be an extra layer.

(01:04:58):
It is the rightest ript you know what I mean.
I just keep it a buck. I just be like, girl,
this restaurant, you got it. If you come to body
bitch and you don't come here. You don't, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
Like, but I think that's why people love you so much,
because I because like I feel your energy, like I
know this is you.

Speaker 5 (01:05:15):
You know what I'm saying exactly, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
Very authentic that I will say. I don't really know
how to you know, lie to kick it. I just don't.
And again, I just want to reiterate, I'm not suggesting
that anybody else is. That brand is just different. You
know what I mean, we are you had a good
old time and we were you know, us and wild
and crazy and all the things. But for her brand,
she feels more comfortable creating it in such a way

(01:05:39):
that it's very much giving it. This is Christmas and bally,
tune in to see what you just look like where like,
what's going on? I got a Christmas tree out here. Body,
it's you know, it's melty because it's hot to tell
or whatever, you know, but I like the off the cuff.

Speaker 5 (01:05:56):
But don't tell us what.

Speaker 4 (01:05:57):
We can follow you as stuff even though you're not
posting like that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
I mean, right, I'm so busy. I got to it's
kitty kaboom k I t t I E know why
because I'm different. Yes, I'm different and kaboom k A
b o O M on everything on Facebook, on ig
on tourdal on tiktoking all of them, kitty kaboom. That's

(01:06:21):
where we're at it. So yeah, follow me. I haven't
been doing a lot in the biz other than what
I shared with you about Pixar. Yeah, super excited about it.
And yeah, I'm still doing audition so who knows it
might come to fruition, but yeah, this move has taken
a lot of my energy and time and focus. So
that's what I've been doing. And again I've been recording y'all.

(01:06:42):
So I said the fifteenth is when I'm going to
pop out and shook noodles, which is less than two
weeks away, So come get together showing y'all with this
whole thing is.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
About because I'm excited for you and definitely keep me
posted and I can share and support you.

Speaker 4 (01:06:56):
But I'm so happy that we were able to make
this happen like this looks like everything.

Speaker 5 (01:07:02):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
Make sure y'all follow her, make sure y'all support her,
and we will be waiting on the fifteenth and happy
early birthday, by the way.

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
Thank you so much. I'm gonna ride the elephants. Girl.
You know that I'm gonna ride the elephants. I'm gonna
get a tattoo of a Buddha. What else I'm gonna do?
Definitely eat good? Oh in my spa dayna have a
spa day, baby. Yeah, okay, the sun said, I got
some ideas. Oh and I definitely want to be in
that pool where they spell off your name with the fower. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:07:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
And to the listeners, if you have any questions coming
to concerns, please make sure to email me at hello
at the PHG.

Speaker 4 (01:07:40):
Podcast dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
And until next time, everyone, kitty, come bool, ladies and jam.

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
Thank you so much every day it has been nothing
so pleasure. I appreciate you.

Speaker 5 (01:07:52):
Oh, thank you, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
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