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June 18, 2025 17 mins

Hello, Puzzlers! Puzzling with us today: hosts of the "Part-Time Genius" podcast, Will Pearson and Mangesh Hattikudur!

Join host A.J. Jacobs and his guests as they puzzle–and laugh–their way through new spins on old favorites, like anagrams and palindromes, as well as quirky originals such as “Ask AI” and audio rebuses.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello puzzlers. Let's start with a quick puzzle. Our guests
today are Will and Mangesh, hosts of the excellent podcast
Part Time Genius. Mangesh is often referred to by his
nickname Mango, and I have to say I love a
good name that ends with Oh. So my puzzle today
is can you name other names that end with Oh?
I'm talking first names, last names, nicknames, real people, fictional people.

(00:24):
I'll accept them all. I prefer two syllables, but three
is okay in a pinch wow. The advanced challenge, if
you have a pause button, can you do an O
name for every single letter of the alphabet. I'll start
you off with R Low as an Rlow Guthrie some
of the answers and more puzzling goodness after the break,

(00:51):
Hello puzzlers, Welcome back to the Puzzler podcast the five
percent discount coupon applied to your online shopping art. I'm
your host, AJ Jacobs, and I'm here with chief puzzle
Officer Greg Pliska.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Greg.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Before the break, we asked listeners to come up with
names ending in OH for every letter of the alphabet.
Do you want to just do a through E for US?

Speaker 3 (01:12):
I feel that I want to jump to the hard ones.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Okay, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Uh the Z I think could be Zeno of Zeno's Paradox.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
That's what I have.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Even better though, Zeppo of the brother Oh nice. In fact,
all the Marx Brothers cover like a bunch of the
jo Chico Harpo.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
You justo Gumo.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Wow, that's like like yeah, that's like twenty percent.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
In fact, the game should be to clue all of
these as if they were Marx Brothers.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Oh that's a good one, very good spin.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
But I thought of Jocko Pistorius, the great bass player.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Great, right, I had Jojo. There are a couple of
yit out.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
There, and I had Umberto echo nice, which is three syllables.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
But I have to accept it. That's the only there
is the only other two syllable un.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Ugo the actor you go tug Nazi talk. There's an
Italian actor nice.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
I didn't even find that. How Ugo is it?

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Ugo you go tog Nazi, Yes, Barbrella and various other things.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
That's well, that's legit, that's legit. You got it here.
I'm going to read a couple I'm going to read
it really quickly. If you want to skip over and
do it yourself, please do. But here you go with
no explanations. But these are all legit r Lobano, Castro, Dumbo, Elmo, Frodo, Gonzo, Hugo, Eto, Jojo, Coco, Lilo, Mango, Nino, Atto, Polo, Quinto, Ringo, Solo, Toto, Ugo, Veto, Waldo, Yoko, Zeno.

(02:44):
There you go, love it.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
Some of those are last names.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
To be fair well, I did say right up front,
I'll take anything, Okay, got it. I'm very accepting. But
we did that all because it was just inspired by
one of our guests, Mango Mango Hot Ticket, and we
all so have Will Pearson or Willow as we call him,
ah nice, and they are the hosts of the delightful

(03:06):
podcast Part Time Genius right here on iHeart welcome Will
and Mango.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
And I don't know about you. Day three.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
My brain is so fine, so tired. What do you
mean you had like fourteen hours to riding.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
We keep them on it for seventy two hours, sit
here for seventy two We just record a.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Few As I mentioned yesterday, Will and Mango, in addition
to Part Time Genius, also wear other hats. Mango co
founded Kaleidoscope, a wonderful company that produces podcasts, including his
award winning Skyline Drive. Will is a big wig over
at iHeart, so we got a lot of iHeart going on.

(03:50):
Ours is an iHeart show. In fact, Chief puzzle officer
Greg Pliska took the iHeart theme very much to heart
and created an iHeart puzzle. So I'm going to turn
it over to Gregg exactly.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
So here's what we're doing.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
We're turning everything into iHeart with this puzzle. Every answer
starts as a title or a phrase that has the
word heart in it, but we're going to add an
eye in front of it and then give you a
clue to this revised version of the thing. So, for example,
if I said this is a kids song played by
Tom Hanks on a giant piano in the movie Big

(04:28):
about a podcast and spirituality, I Heart and souls, that
would be exactly exactly, So they will all be kind of.

Speaker 5 (04:38):
I was like, iHeart Chopsticks.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Well, but you know this is you know, the original
has the word heard in it somewhere.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
So you can yeah, all right, here we go.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
This is a Seleine Dion hit about the eternal success
of our podcast production company.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
A Celene Dion song, the only Celene Dion song I know.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
It was in the movie Titanic.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Oh is it?

Speaker 6 (05:10):
Well, it's like my heart will go on.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
And on or ieart my I heart will go on?

Speaker 4 (05:18):
Yes, exactly, it will go on.

Speaker 6 (05:20):
I was spelling my with am I.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
Oh god, you were kind of sticking to my heart,
my poor Spanish t.

Speaker 6 (05:29):
Sorry, Yes, yeah, all right.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
This this is a common saying.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
It refers to how where you live is the best
place to listen to podcasts, or wherever you have people
you love, that's where you belong listening to podcasts.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
It's the I actually never understood what this phrase meant, right,
it's a weird one about the heart is where the home.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
Is on my heart, it's not hard is where the
home is.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
It's the other way home, I media, home is where
the iHeart is.

Speaker 5 (06:11):
Home is where the Okay, this is how I struggled
with pig Latin as a kid.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
I'm like, I don't know where we put the things.

Speaker 5 (06:19):
Yes, okay, it's your home is where the iHeart is.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
I got it in front of the Yeah, there's a
big logo right behind just them.

Speaker 5 (06:29):
Afraid this is violating my non compete somehow or something
like that.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
You can't talk about iHeart or I home.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
You can't talk about I home, right.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
That's right, got it all right.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Someone who is very generous with their podcasts is said
to have this, and Neil Young sang a number one
song about it.

Speaker 6 (06:51):
It's like an I heeart of gold, but.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
I Heart of gold, yes, exactly. Another song one when
the moon passes directly between the Earth and your headquarters,
Bonnie Tyler sings this song about it. So when the
moon passes between the Earth and something, it's.

Speaker 6 (07:15):
A total eclipse of iHeart.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Total eclipse of the iHeart exactly, yes, exactly. And AJ,
you had something about the streaming of this song, didn't you.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Oh well, Andrea associate puzzler. Andrea put in a little
fun fact which I haven't even read, but i'll read
it out now. Time reports that the music streaming service
Spotify tracked a seventy five percent increase in the streams
of total Eclipse of the Heart the day after the
solar eclipse of March twenty sixteen. So the god faster. Yeah, well,

(07:47):
I guess, yeah, I don't know. I don't know, but.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Interesting everybody got up the next morning and thought that
was cool, let's play a song about it.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Well maybe they're like, oh man, now I have nothing
to do. I guess I'm going to have to play
other eclipse related entertain.

Speaker 5 (08:04):
And use these Glass and I were together on that
that eclipse. Yeah, we went with our families to Nashville
to see it. That was in the path there, and how.

Speaker 6 (08:15):
I was blown away? I mean I I just I
like it was. It was something I, you know, kind
of did because because you've done it in school or whatever, right,
like with the cardboard box and the hole and whatever,
and it just was not that impressive. And then we
went we drove out to Nashville and and like when
everything got dark and then the insects start chirping in

(08:38):
the middle of the day and like the bird song changes,
and like it was. It was wild. I was really
enamored with it.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Was it a fault because I've never been Was it
a full on, like totally dark like pitch black?

Speaker 5 (08:50):
Yeah, that's why we went there.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Yeah, so jealous.

Speaker 5 (08:52):
In this most recent one, I guess that was last year,
we went to Little Rock that was in the path there.
I would highly recommend it It was one of those
things where everybody got so tired of everybody talking about
what was it totality or something.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
Like that, what was the one that people kept using.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
But it's totally worth it.

Speaker 5 (09:11):
And there is a huge difference between being in a
total eclipse and what ninety nine percent or eight percent,
So if you ever get a chance to go see it,
I'm with Mango. It was even for those like two
minutes of it, it was amazing.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
I was in for the last one.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
I was in San Antonio, just outside San Antonio the country,
and it was very cloudy, but even then it was
still spectacular. Not quite as great as when it's you know,
sunny and then everything goes dark, but it'd be the same.

Speaker 6 (09:40):
I had a friend who moved to Hawaii during the
lockdown and and she said, there's something so wonderful about
I was like, how do you like being here? And
she said, you know, there's something amazing about feeling a
sense of awe every single day, like when you're when
you're and to me that mo like the eclipse was

(10:01):
like it felt so overblown and then you go there
and you feel in total awe of this.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Moment truly, Well, look next next year, Majorca Spain. It's
gonna there's a total eclipse that'll cross Spain. So let's
go I planned to.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Be let's do it off site.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
Well look this actually, this next clue is is kind
of related.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
I didn't do this intentionally.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
So Apocalypse Now was based upon this Joseph Conrad story
about a podcaster who travels into the sunless depths of
the jungle in search of a story.

Speaker 6 (10:38):
Your turn, mango, I think, Yeah, I forget what the
name of it is.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
It's a it's got I heart darkness exactly exactly.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
I didn't realize that was about darkness in the eclipse.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
But yeah, well done, well played.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Way to pretend you didn't set that up.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
No, it's actually I just, you know, came up with it.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
How about this one?

Speaker 3 (11:00):
This is a podcast all about window panes, with a
theme song sung by Blondie Ah song from back in
the eighties.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
It's not really about window panes, that's my that's my clue.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
The song is not.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
No. The song is about a heart, a heart made
of a material that window panes are also made.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Of, and it's often played at bar Mitzvah's I feel
I just feel.

Speaker 5 (11:28):
Like your hard.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
Gimmey, gimmy, what are window panes made of.

Speaker 5 (11:36):
Glass?

Speaker 4 (11:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Glass, and you got heart. So you got heart and
you got glass. And then you need like a little.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
Little preposition in between them.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Preposition.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
Yes, very good, very good? All that? All right?

Speaker 1 (11:54):
We have one more.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
I think.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
I feel I don't know, maybe just my kids.

Speaker 6 (12:03):
It's amazing.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
I mean it's funny the bar metsvas they have like
stuff from about like this year, last year, and then
it's like all eighties.

Speaker 6 (12:12):
Yeah it's true.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah, it's weird.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
I asked my sixteen year old daughter.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
I said, I need some songs with heart in them
because I wanted to get something contemporary, right, not just
a thing that an old man like me knows. I
wanted something that the kids would know. And she said,
oh yeah, heart of glass. I was like, honey, that's
not You weren't even born decades after that song.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
You're not helping. That's amazing. All right, here's your last one.
This is a saying.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
It usually refers to someone who listens to their podcasts
with one of those portable devices you can strap to
your arm. Oh, and they aren't afraid to share their
emotions about it.

Speaker 5 (12:54):
Oh, wear your eyeheart on your sleeve.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yes, that's very good. Oh that was that was. Oh
I'm looking now because Andrea wrote the meaning, because I
was like, that is a weird and disturbing phrase, but
apparently it is Shakespeare. He always comes up with him
in jousts. Medieval jousts, a sleeve was a part of

(13:19):
the armor that covered the arm, and you would wear
a lady's like little handkerchief on that part. So if
you had your heart on your sleeve, you had your
handkerchiefs on.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
Your you know.

Speaker 6 (13:31):
There was a there was a recent study that came
out this this guy figured out that, like like this
oldest research, that Shakespeare was a terrible husband and that
he was living away and tom catting about in England
while his wife was in Avon. But like they found
a letter and address and apparently he had her, like

(13:52):
they were actually living very close together during like the
Hamlet and Athelo and like all his major plays, and
like she was just like a very very short commute
from the Globe theater, which is yeah, so it turns
out he was speaking of iHeart. He was actually a
better lover than we'd expect.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
You have I like it you've resurrected his reputation, which
was in the gutter. I will say he left her
his second best bed in his will, but again there
are people who say, oh no, that means it's the
bed where they made love, because the best bed was
for the guests. So again he's a lovely man. Well

(14:34):
you were lovely guests. That's a segue for you, and
we love having you on Mango and Will and everyone
should listen to.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
You.

Speaker 5 (14:45):
Know when years ago, when we started Mental Floss, one
of our goals was that not only should people feel
a little bit smarter every time they read the magazine,
but they should also walk away, hopefully with a smile
on their faces.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
And you guys do that day and day.

Speaker 5 (15:00):
So I just want to say thank you to this
whole crew for doing what you do whenever we listen.
It's impossible to listen to this show and not leave
with a smile on your face.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
So thank you for doing what you do. It means
the while.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
That's really sweet.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
I am smiling right now because of that, so I
know you can't see it listeners, but wonderful to have
you come back anytime. Greg, do you have an extra
credit for the folks at home.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
I do have an extra credit in honor of a
filmmaker we lost recently. This is a David Lynch movie
about untamed animals running loose at your podcast headquarters.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Great, okay, I'll be thinking about that. And in the meantime,
if you have one minute, and if you do like
the show, we would be so grateful if you would
go on your favorite podcast platform and give us a
rating and a review. It really helps. And of course
we'll meet you here tomorrow for more puzzling puzzles that

(15:58):
will puzzle you puzzlingly.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Hello puzzlers, it's your chief puzzle Officer, Greg Pliska here
with the extra credit answer. From our previous show, we
did some True or False about true or false with
Will and Mango. Every question is a statement that you
have to decide whether it's true or false, and it's
about things.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
That are true or false. Here's your extra credit. The
name of the town Truth or Consequences in New Mexico
came about as an April fool's hoax. Is that true
or false? The answer is it is false. It was
not meant as a hoax. It was meant as a
publicity stunt. That's very tricky, aja very tricky. This was

(16:44):
nineteen fifty. There was a hugely popular radio quiz show
called Truth or Consequences, and the residents of the town
Hot Springs, New Mexico, voted to change the name to
win a contest so the show would broadcast one episode
from their town.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
So they really did.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
It was not a hope. It was a publicity stunt,
and the name stuck. So I'd just like to say
right here, if you want to change your name of
your town to the Puzzler, we will come there and
record a podcast from your town.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
It's up there, it's out there.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
I put it out there if you want to become
the Puzzler New Mexico, or any state, or really any country.
Actually I wouldn't mind, like the Puzzler Bali, if you
would do that, because then we could come record from Bali. Anyway,
we look forward wherever we are to seeing you next
time for some more puzzling puzzles.
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