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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello Puzzlers. The Puzzling crew is taking a quick break
this week to huddle in the puzzle Lab and come
up with lots of new brain teasers and brain ticklers
and brain taunters and other synonyms for puzzles. We will
be back on Monday, but in the meantime, please enjoy
some of our favorite episodes from this past year. Hello Puzzlers,

(00:24):
and welcome to the Puzzler Podcast, the eighth and most
surprising twist in your puzzling Netflix spy series. I'm your host,
AJ Jacobs, and here's a quick puzzle for you. What
word follows choke tag and pop in baseball lingo? The
answers after the break, Welcome back to the Puzzler. I'm

(00:52):
AJ Jacobs. Before the break, we asked you what word
follows choke tag and pop in baseball lingo? And the
word is up choke up on the bat tag up
and pop up. And I figured we do it because
our guest, Katie Nolan knows these things. She knows sports,

(01:14):
she knows about all sorts of topics. She's an Emmy
winning sports comedy host, host of the brand new podcast
Casuals About Culture and Sports.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Welcome Katie, thank you for having me Bejay.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
We are delighted, and we are also delighted. I know
you beat yourself up because you miss just one of
the many.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
No, a big one, A big one. I'm gonna get
a phone call on my dad about Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Well, the thing is, you have been on Celebrity Jeopardy.
So I am imagining this is like low much lower pressure,
certainly lower money. You get no money, yeah, but well it.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Was for charity anyway, so I didn't get any money
from that either. Look, I get the same amount of
stressed out anytime I do anything. My brain at any
moment can fail me.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
So we'll see how it goes today.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
All right, Well I am I am optimistic. But what
was it like being on celebrity.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Oh my god, it's And I feel silly saying this
because I've done so many things and I'm so grateful
for all the opportunities that I've had in my career.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
It was the coolest thing I've ever done. It was
the peak for me. I don't know that.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
I think I'll be chasing that high for the rest
of my life. Now. When I watch Jeopardy, which I
still do every night, when night dinner. I just feel like,
I don't know, I'm probably very annoying to my fiance
where I'm like, oh, I know that's the their show
and the oh, look he's looking over at the monitor
like I know where everything is now. But I mean,
what an experience, because I mean, if you've loved Jeopardy

(02:42):
like I have, and like many do, it's hard to recreate.
Like you can't have like a party where you play Jeopardy.
You have to have like technology in order to do that.
So to be able to just purely play the game
I've watched from home was the best. I can't even
it was the best thing I've ever done. I want
to do it every day.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
I miss it.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Oh well, you are a highly entertaining Jeopardy contest. I mean,
first of all, you won, You crushed a lot of people,
and you I loved when you got into it with
Stephen Webber from Wings.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Look, I'm very competitive and that hasn't come out of
me in a while because while I love sports and
I watch a lot of sports, I do not play
them anymore. So I haven't really had the chance to, like,
you know, get kind of you chop it up with
the people that you're competing against and that Watching the
tape back of that, I was like, wow, I really
let it come back out of me.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
I had a lot to say.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
It was great. Well, he did trash talk.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
You, so I did you know he was asking for it,
you know.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
And just so listeners know, one of the things was
the category was obituaries, and I believe Stephen Webber did
very well. And he said at the end, well, I
read the New York Times obituary and our guest Katie
Nolan said.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Look for your friends.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
It wasn't it wasn't my I mean, as soon as
I said it, I was like, I hope he knows
I'm joking.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Well, you hugged at the end. You hugged.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
He's a very nice guy and he was very supportive
after I beat him and went on to the finals.
He was rooting for me. So he was very supportive.
Oh God, shout out to Stephen Webber.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
I lost in the finals anyway, so he ultimately won.
I guess in the sense that I did not win,
so he could be happy about them.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Well, I don't know, it sounds like you beat him.
Let's just stick with that true true. All right, well,
we have a Jeopardy themed puzzle for you.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Ooh.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
So this was given to only one other guest in
the Puzzler podcast history, and that guest was Ken Jennings,
who was a guest.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
Oh. I love Ken Jennings. He's doing such a good
job with Jeopardy, isn't he.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
I'm a big fan. I'm an amazing fan. Uh So
this puzzle is called in the form of a question,
so everyone knows that when you give a response and Jeopardy,
it has to be given in the form of a question.
So in this game, all the responses are words or
phrases that sound like they could be a question. So

(05:10):
they all begin with the sounds of who, what, where, when,
and why. Lake Meade was formed by the creation of
this massive structure on the Colorado River. The answer would
be who for damn? Who for a damn? So it
sounds like who and you. Actually I would request you

(05:31):
say what is okay? Damn?

Speaker 3 (05:34):
I like this like this extra level of Whenever I
play any trivia game, I answer in the form of
a question, even if I don't ask you, just because
I don't want to get rid of the muscle. The mood.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Well, this will be like two questions in one because
you'll be like what, yeah, what is who?

Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Damn?

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Okay, all right, are nervous?

Speaker 1 (05:51):
No, all right, here we go. This is a restaurant
chain with an owl in its logo.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
Ooh, what is Hooters?

Speaker 1 (06:02):
That's it? What is Hooters?

Speaker 2 (06:04):
That's a great way to describe that restaurant. It has
an owl in its logos because.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
They love birds. They love yeah, they love ornithology, they
love wisdom. Have you ever had to go on a
work I've been.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
I went once, uh As for a birthday trip. I
don't know. It was my birthday, so I don't know
why that was.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
But my friends, you know, you do the thing where
I don't know if people do this still, but you
kidnap your friend and you take them to their birthday party.
And we used to always go to this place called
Dick's Last Resort in in Boston. But for some reason,
for my birthday, they thought it would be funny that
we went to like.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
A Hooters on Route one and it was. It was fine.
The wings are good. I like their I do like
their wings.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yeah. There you go. Well, and you might have been
served by actress Amy Adams. I learned no way the
former Hooters they call them who I am, not the
Hooters women, Hooters, Hooters servers.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Here's who Hooters.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Girls is the what they on the website, they call
them Hooters girl.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
I always found a fascinating that now they make them
also wear short shorts, and I'm like, that's not in
the in the name.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
I thought it was.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
I thought we were doing the upstairs. I didn't know
we had to worry about the downstairs.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
So good for those ladies. They've got a law on
their plates.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
So to speak. All right, this carrot, are you ready
for the next?

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yes? Yes?

Speaker 1 (07:22):
This cartoon character bought such products as a rocket powered
pair of roller skates, jet propellered pogo sticks. You're you're nodding.
I might not even give you the ones. The anvils
and dynamite.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Anvils is the tell? I feel like, who is Wiley Coyote?

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Nice? You got it's fun? Who is great? All right,
We've a few more, so you're in for more fun.
This company's logo features a redheaded girl with exactly ten freckles.
I counted at least the one on Wikipedia.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Uh, what is Wendy's that's it.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
What is Wendy's you're breezing through? No, Jim Thorpe's here
for you.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
That's gonna haunt me.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Crazy all right? This is a word for a particularly
rowdy soccer fan, particularly in the UK.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Okay, So this is what is yes, a who logan?

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Exactly what is a who logan?

Speaker 2 (08:28):
And they are rowdy?

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Yeah, they're crazy, they are greedy, all right? This but
this is a Jeopardy themed one in a Jeopardy theme puzzle.
This is the name of the IBM computer that defeated
Ken Jennings in Jeopardy in two thy eleven.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
That's right, Ken, I hope you're listening. I remember that
you lost to who is Watson?

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Zactly Watson? And by the way, uh, you should not
feel bad because Ken Jennings, we stumped him on a
few including including the theme song of the old Jeopardy
like he didn't recognize We played him like an audio quiz.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
So and he didn't know it.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
No, he didn't.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Well, look did he beat himself up about that?

Speaker 1 (09:16):
He didn't seem the care He gotta have more of that.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Just let it roll off, truly.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
I think if I missed one that I that I'm like, oh,
I didn't know that, bothers me less than if I'm
like I had.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
It, I just didn't find it.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
You know what I mean when you look in the
attic of your brain and you're like, I know it's
here somewhere.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Where is it?

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Right? Yeah, it is, it's in there.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Those are the worst.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
All right? How about Chicago resident Jenny Doan holds the
record for the longest continuous time doing this activity one
hundred hours of doing this activity.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
One hundred consecutive hours of it.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
I mean, it could be wearing something good one but
it's but it's not. Okay, uh who yeah?

Speaker 3 (10:04):
Who?

Speaker 1 (10:04):
I'm just gonna say, who is It is a whop?
It is a hoop? So what is nice?

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Who?

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Who?

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Hoop? Hula hooping?

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Hula hooping? Yes, you got it? One hundred hours straight.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
A hundred hours.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Yeah. I have read like records where I did one
a few episodes ago where it was like seventy hours
straight of interviewing. But she wore an adult diaper.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
So I don't know, gonna say, I wonder how you
you know in one hundred hours you gotta.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
That's a lot. Yeah, I think. By the way, speaking
of important round shaped world records. I believe you are
the former owner.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Former owner, thank you for the specificity.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
I no longer have my world record, but I did,
and it was for donuts stacked in a minute blindfolded.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
It's very specific.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
And the reason the minute matters is because I broke
the record. But then I you know, you're blindfolded, so
you take your hands off and hope the stack stays,
and it did. And the lovely woman who worked at
Guinness that has to be there to like make sure
it's on the up and up, make sure that doughnuts
aren't frosted, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
She apparently it's like glue.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
She told me that it has to be standing at
the end of one minute. So I think I got
it done in thirty seconds. And then I had the
panic of like should I try to adjust it at
all or should I just leave it? And I think
I touched it a couple of times and left it,
and then I got it, and then it was.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Taken from me.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
Gelman, I believe like the producer of when I was
finding it was regising Kathy, but now it's what's your
name and her Kelly and Mark.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
Yeah, well that first of all, did you come up
with that? Or was that a request from the Guinness folks?

Speaker 3 (12:09):
We were trying to break a record. We did a
segment every week on my ESPN show called Always Late,
where we would do me trying to break a record.
So we would find an obscure, weird one like balloons
popped by your butt in forty five seconds, and I
would try them and it was always ridiculous, but we
wanted to end with like a like, let's really go

(12:30):
for one. And so I practiced this one and I
got it and then it was ripped from my hands.
So I'm still a little salty about that.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Gilman, if I ever meet you.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Well, listen, it's not over. You can.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
I can always toss my blindfold back on and get
back into the game.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Maybe someday.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
All right, a couple more we've got. Amazon has of these,
the largest of which is four and a half million
square feet about one hundred and one football fields. One
hundred and one football fields.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
What is a warehouse? They have a warehouse that big They.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Had in Ontario, California, which I never heard of. But
because there's no room for anything else, Uh yeah, that
is uh bleak.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
I think I think I so bleaked about that, but
it makes sense. I've got a lot of stuff.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
They got a lot of stuff, and they bring it
to you quick.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
How about this famous radio host has a group of
eyeball characters called the whack Pack, including Tan Mom and
Jeff the Drunk.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
I'm gonna guess, because I wasn't an avid listener, who
is Howard Stern?

Speaker 1 (13:55):
You would guess correctly who is Howard Stern? And I'm
going to end with the French impressionist was famous for
painting these. Oh this is good. Maybe I actually got
you on one.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Well because my first thought, Oh no, I was gonna
say landscapes, but that's not so oh.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Oh oh, oh oh oh. What are water lilies?

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Exactly?

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Now I thought a lot about this because wat and water.
But I looked it up and I think some regional
dialects perhaps water.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah, water Philly. Philly calls it water.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
That's exactly it.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Now you don't have a Boston accent, did you know?

Speaker 3 (14:42):
My mom made sure of that growing up. My parents
are from both from Newton, which is closer to Boston
than Framing Him, which is where I'm from, and they
both have them pretty thick. My mom thinks it's unattractive,
and so she insisted that my brother and I not
have them, but also framing him doesn't.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Really.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
The only people I know from framing him who have
a Boston accent are the ones who went away to
college and wanted to be the kid from Boston and
they came back with the Boston accent, but they don't
make them in framing him.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
That's like the kid I knew in college who went
to a semester in London and came back with a
British accent.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
What are you, Madonna? What are we doing that we've
got there? That's contagious. You want to talk like that.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Oh well, you sound smart. I feel you've gained like
five IQ points when you've got you.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
Can also when you say when you have a British accent,
you can say something mean or like direct. You can
give direct criticism, but it sounds like softer.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
That's so true?

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Was nice?

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yeah, And I actually knew a guy who did telemarketing
and he said that he got like fifty percent more
less hang up fewer hang ups when he had a
British accent.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Huh, that's interesting because not to go too far down
this road. But I was I did an internship in college.
I did like a semester over the summer in Australia,
and I was an intern for a public relations firm,
and so I had to call people about our stuff
and they would all The first thing they would always
say is like, I think you have the wrong number.
This is we're in Australia, we don't probably we aren't

(16:14):
who you're looking for, which is a lot better than
the normal first thing they say, which is they just
hang up on you. So it actually it got me
in the door. Now, I don't think I actually got
anything accomplished, but at least they said more to me
than no, thank you and then hang.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Up interesting, so it might have been a good thing too. Yeah, yeah,
I know. My uncle used to say when you get telemarketers,
he's like, I'm very interested, could you just hold on
one second?

Speaker 3 (16:40):
Up?

Speaker 1 (16:40):
And that no, you just leave it on? Is dad mean?
I feel bad?

Speaker 3 (16:46):
I feel like it's it was easier when you could
just make them the bad guy and like, how dare
you call during dinner? But now you're like, well they
don't want to be doing that either, I'm sure, so
we don't have to harass them.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Their boxes are the bad guys.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah, but you never get to talk to them.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
No, well, excellent job, excellent job of you. We're not
stopping by any well, thank you. And by the way,
Katie will be coming back for one more episode, so
we don't have to say goodbye. Just I don't know
au revoir. Does that mean I'll see you again? Yeah,
something like that. And the extra credit is this phrase

(17:25):
means that you do not hide your emotions. You put
them right out there. And it starts with what, where, when, why,
or who? Excellent Well. If you like the show, please
check out our Instagram feed at Hello Puzzlers, where we
post original puzzles and other fun stuff. And we'll meet

(17:45):
you here tomorrow for more puzzling puzzles. I will puzzle
you puzzlingly.

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