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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hello, puzzlers, Welcome to the Puzzler Podcast, the pink plastic
Flamingos in your puzzling front yard. By the way, thank
you to listener Rebecca Reninja for that intro phrase. I
am your host, AJ Jacobs, and I'm here with today's guests,
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the Great Jordan Carlos, a brilliant stand up comedian. He
is co host of the hit podcast Adulting, and he's
a delightful old man who I've known for several years.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Welcome Jordan, Thank you, Aj. It's so cool to be here.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
And I was like, your invitation, the clouds opened up
and I was like, this is really happening to me.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I feel raptured. I feel raptured.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
That is the comed as, that is the common uh yeah,
the reaction.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
That's how we refer to the people who are not
on the show. They're left behind, right.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
So it was like the blip, but a good blip,
you know what I'm saying. Yeah, that's me, that's me.
So I feel warm and fuzzy. What's going on?
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Man?
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Well, that other voice you hear was Greg Pliska, our
chief puzzle officer, and Greg is actually the one who
will be delivering you today's puzzle, So I'm just going
to turn it over to him, and I might chime in.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
I might not please you should always chime We'll.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
See, We'll see if I'm anything chiming. Ready, Greg, what
do you got?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Well? You know, Jordan, we decided we love your podcast
Adulting with Michelle Buteaux, and we thought, let's do a
puzzle about neologisms like the word adulting. Yes, okay, new words,
and adult of course is not a new word, but
using it as a verb is a, of course, a
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very sort of gen Z thing to do. I guess,
so whatever gen you would say you are, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
But I'm I'm a sillennial. I'm actually I'm somewhere between
beuse this more nineteen. But I moisturize.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
So that's that's just kind.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Of that takes you towards the gen Z end of
the spectrum. I guess if you're.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Moisturized, that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Very good.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
I think I love that.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Wait, can I I do want to time in one
quick thing, which is the scramble Dictionary added a bunch
of words, and one of the words is verbing to
verb is a verb. So I thought that was very meta.
I love that, But I realize adulting is a verbification
of the noun adult verb. That's some verbing. You just did,
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some verbing.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
That was very meta of the dictionary. I love it, right.
So this, basically every answer in this quiz is another
new word or usage from the twenty tens. Basically, these
are usages that really came to the fore in that
tumultuous decade of all the tens. So I'll give you
a clue. For example, I might have said this term
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for doing things like a grown up is an example
of verbing a noun, and that would of course be adulting.
Love it. And basically what I'm doing is giving you
a list of the next podcasts you'll do. I'll started
with adulting. Each of these could be another podcast, all right.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Right, yeah, yeah, I'm all yours.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I'm always ready for more revenue streams, so let's try it.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
All right? These are all new words from the twenty ten.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
The first one is a portmanteau word that describes a
guy giving unsolicited advice to a woman.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Unsolicited advice to a woman, never done it, seen it happen,
None of us seen it happen.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Man's playing Man's.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Man splaining exactly, and you know what a portmanteau is.
It's where you, yes, take two different words and them
not only.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Does he know he used one millennial?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
He just did.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
That was aillennial, right, millennial.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I don't have time. Do you understand? I don't have time.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
I like that because port literally means like door, and
manteau means like a sign, so it's a door sign.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I don't that's the literal translation from French.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
So but it was Lewis Carroll who came up with
this usage of portmanteau because I think portmanteau is actually
a kind of suitcase or something, is it? And and
somewhere in Alice in Wonderland he said, you know, he
could also describe a word that shoves two things together.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I love this, Oh guys right.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I actually once wasted a good half hour coming up
with portmanteaus. Of the word portmanteau like sport manteau sports
have it. Anyway, that was two meta and a waste of
everyone's time.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Sorry, that's a puzzle waiting to happen. It's actually I
think it's actually a suitcase that opens into two equal halves. Yes, right,
Most of our suitcases. You open just a lid of it.
But this is one of those big one that opens
into two halves, right, like the word that is made
up of two.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
There you go. I love this, guys.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
I feel like I'm getting like a like a operating
system update in my brain, you know what I'm saying,
getting some of the bugs out.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
This is great.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
That's got to be. We got to put that on
all the advertising. We do have advertising. If we did that,
quote would be awesome. All right, here's here's another one.
This isn't exactly a portmanteau. It's more two words stuck together.
It's a way of enjoying a TV series that wasn't
even possible back when episodes only aired once a week.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Back when it wasn't possible to do. Of course, binge was.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
This was impossible, wasn't binge watching? Yes, right, when we
were kids, you couldn't do that. And my children don't
understand why not, Like.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Well, there were there were occasions when it was possible. Uh.
In his in his misspent youth, Ted Turner would sometimes
put on like it would just be like a marathon
we called the marathons back in the day. Yes, so
be a marathon of Seinfeld or a marathon of er
and like people would watch the twilet zone whatever it
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was was like on for a marathon and you couldn't leave,
and that was our binge watching.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
You really had to stay. Yeah, you really had to stay.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
And that also has a much more positive connotation, like
you are doing a marathon. You're doing something as opposed
to something unhealthy like binge drinking or binge eating. So
we we were healthier. We were healthier back.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Can I say maybe we should call binge drinking marathon drinking.
I think that's what it is.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
I opened a bar I called Fidipity's and then we
just called marathon drinking.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Cut there, you know, a bark called Fandipities or you're
gonna open bites.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
That's That's the only reason why I know I keep
that in my head is in the name of that guy.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
So I think I think sports bar.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
It's original, the original runner of the original marathon.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Here we go.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Man who died after twenty which is embarrassing nowadays because
people do like ultra marathons and don't die. So I
feel bad. He should have trained. He didn't train, didn't alone.
He didn't do anything, just.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Well, to bring it back to the fidipities bar, fidipities
dies running that right, he says one word Nike, And
then for centuries after people run the same race and
they literally say to Fidipity's and we're gonna say that
that the fidipities bar. Hold my beer and I'm gonna
do this. I'm gonna do what you couldn't, buddy.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
This is brilliant. Forget podcasting, open the bar.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
I know, let's go. Marathon drinking.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Got another new word, new neologies for you staring at
your social media apps and contemplating just how terrible everything is.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Oh oh uh Friday night. No, I'm sorry, No, I'm sorry.
That is doom scrolling.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Yeah, it is doom scrolling, which really I was reading
about it. It really came into usage during the Pandemics.
That was when we all dove into that full time.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Yeah, Jordan, I heard you on a recent podcast say
that you are an occasional doom scroller.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Oh man, who isn't an occasional doom scroller? I mean
it's if I were like in you know, tout and
comments court with scrolls, I would have been doom scrolling
back then too on the papyrus.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
I mean, listen, listen, we all.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I don't mean to go scatological, but some of the
most important things in the bathroom are a good supply
tpee and great battery life.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
And that's it, you know.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
So that's where I do most of my like rodin,
you know, kind of like the thinker, I'm doom scrolling.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
That's that's position. I know. There, you got it, so
I did.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Many readers say that my books are good for bathroom reading,
which I'll take as a compliment. I'll take. I think
they are healthier than doom scrolling. So I'm I'm fine
with it wherever you want to read it.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
He can I say something now, Okay, one of my
one of my favorite painters, Jacob Lawrence, was I love
his paintings. His painting is by the bathroom in the
met Okay, so let me tell you something, buddy, you
are in good company. All right, you're a good company.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
That is nice.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yea, I love it.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
And what what is that painting? Is it related to
the bathrooms or no? It's just a well it's.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Called great migration.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I mean, people are going someplace, so I mean they're
in a line and going something.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
So it's kind of like the same thing.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, it's so in ways they're.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Going, they're they're going, they're going someplace.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Something's happening, something's moving. Yeah, yeah, So I just want
you to know. I think he's great. I think he's
tops your tops.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
That's what's up.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Right there by the bathroom.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
No problem, I feel good.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
No problem. The South. Well it's better than French. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Oh, there we go. We're going back to the French
prenetation of things.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
All right.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Let me give you another one. This sounds like something
Casper or the Headless Horseman would do, but it's more
about when a flesh and blood person you're dating just vanishes.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Casper or wait wait wait, hold on, the Headless Horseman.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Or cast It sounds like something they would do.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Yes, this is ghosting ghosting. I was like, there you go, Okay,
I got your ghosting.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Yes, ghosting, right, disappearing? Does that ever happened to you? Guys?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
I prefer to quiet quitting someone. Isn't that what the
youth culture calling it these days? Quiet quitting?
Speaker 4 (11:07):
I don't know that's what we're in the gen Z.
We're in the twenty tens. Now we go, not in
the twenty twenties.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Yeah, right, right, ghosting. I have been ghosted before. I've
been ghosted. I have ghosted others, you know. I have
been an apparition, a vapor spirit.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
And I don't like it. I don't like it either way.
I don't like it.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
I don't think what happens to me. I don't like
when I do it to others. And I'm sure they
need it too. Yeah, but you know, I just leave
it to them. I let them figure it.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Out, you know. But you know, I realized, Jordan, you
have an eleven year old, so you're probably up on
all the twenty you know, the eleven year old slang skibbity,
toilet whizzler, ohio, phantom tax.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Speaking my language, sir, right, yes, And instead of saying really,
they you know, they're like they're like really, really really
or instead of what we say, like really, please, don't
don't do that, they say actually actually actually have.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
You heard that?
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Yes, yep, absolutely, that's that's that's a longer word.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
That's an extra syllable.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
It's an extra syllable.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
My daughter, now she's sixteen now says period, meaning yes,
definitely period.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Period, same twinning all these.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
The road trip we took that went to Pittsburgh, we
are also in Ohio, so I thought, oh, this is
gonna be great. We're gonna say Ohio, right, because that's
a big that means something good or something bad. I forget.
My son, says dad, Ohio is a dead meme word, right,
because once we start using it, the kids are like, no, no,
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dead meme.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yeah, dead meme. They did.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
It just smells different to them, you know. Yes, kids
are saying slay though they're saying slay. I cannot wait
for the Christmas commercials this year where they're going to
be like, slay all Christmas long. Oh yes, yeah, use
the homophone.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
I love it.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I'm ready.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
I'm ready.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
You have a puzzle of mind. I love it.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yeah you could, you could moral puzzled mind. But thank you.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
I'm going to do two more of these. This is
one that made it to Jeopardy. The clue on Jeopardy
was a twenty nineteen New York Times article says this
two word phrase marks the end of friendly generational relations.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Friendly generational relations marks the end.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
End of those and Ken Jennings actually got a laugh
when he said to the audience, I get to say
it to Alex Oh.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I think I know this because I was what I
thought this was.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
I'm from Texas, you know, I always root for ut
and our rivals or Oklahoma. So I thought they were
talking about the Sooners. But okay, boomer means something completely different.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Yes, very good.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Very different. Yes, okay boomer not okay, Okay.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Sooner is a.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Difficult thing when you're talking trash to someone that went
to ou you know, you say boomer sooner. I don't
know why that works. Why they take umbradge too, that's
beyond me. We've it's been lost in time.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
No, I think those are related words, aren't they Because
the big land boom that got everyone to Oklahoma, right,
they were the Boomers and they were the Sooners because
they got there sooner than other people did.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Right, absolutely, yeah, probably probably way before they should have gone.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
But like, yeah, that's one of historical insult that is who.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Knew Oh oh oh it burned you know, okay boomer?
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Yeah, yeah, okay boomer, yes, or that was for boomer
A Siasin. You know, there's a lot of there, right, yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
All right, Well, speaking of boomers, here's your last one.
The boomers think that this three word activity means to
watch a particular streaming service and cool off. But gen
z ers know it's just a euphemism for having sex.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Watch out, watch out.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
I've got this, all right, I've got this first of all.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
I like to think of it in a in a
in another way, and that is when perhaps whales, humpback whales,
blue whales get together. They have Netflix and krill, oh,
very efficent krill.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
But we know what they're up to, we know what
they're doing in the saragos.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
See.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
But this is of course Netflix and chill.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
For the exactly yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yes, yes, yes, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
I've never proposed it, but I think I think it's
I think it's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I'm always like, well, I'm in a little Netflix and show.
Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Well the other I feel the other streaming services must
be trying to get their own euphemisms, because you know
they Netflix seems to have a monopoly on that, and
no one talks about peacock.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Yeah, oh what, I'm sorry peacock And listen, where.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Do you go? I'm keeping listen all right, we've gone
off the rails people. But Jordans did great again. You
know your twenty tens and neologisms, and Greg, do you
have one for the folks at.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Home, perhaps an extra credit? Absolutely? I do. Here it is.
Esperanto was a nineteenth century example of this, and Klingon
is more recent. But it was David Peterson's success creating
doth Rocky for Game of Thrones that led to the
popularization of this linguistic term.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Oh, I don't know that.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
I know, we've suddenly went way deep.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
That's interesting.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
This is a twenty tens neelogism. It's a little less
of you know, the slang of the young people.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
But I low key don't know that. Did I use that?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Right? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (17:10):
I think so?
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Yeah? Probably? All right, Well that is very interesting. I'm
going to have to tune in Jordan once again. You
were wonderful and thank you for netflixing and chilling with us. Right,
I'm not sure I did, but we had a good
time and I we will.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
It's not Netflix, and it's Puzzler and something. Puzzler and coffee. Yeah,
it should be puzzler and coffee today.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Yeah, that's much that's much more family friendly. Well, folks,
come back, and if you have time between that, please
check out our Instagram feed which is Hello Puzzlers, and
we post new original puzzles there all the time, lots
of other fun stuff, and of course come back tomorrow
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for more puzzling puzzles that will puzzle you puzzlingly.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
Hello puzzlers, it's your chief puzzle Officer, Greg Pliska here
with the extra credit answer from our previous episode. We
had Jordan Carlos on with us and we played a
game called rhyme mea River, where all the answers were
names of rivers and a word that rhyme with them.
Your extracredit clue was this is barley or rice grown
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on the banks of Paris's River, and that, of course
is the sane grain. Of course, many Americans pronounce it
sin instead of sane, as the French do, but we're
going with how the rest of the Americans say it,
which is sane sane grain. I hope you enjoyed that one,
whether you're boating on the sin, eating some grain, or
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just hanging out, listen to the puzzler. Catch you next time.