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Hello, Puzzlers! Puzzling with us today: friend-of-the-podcast and the creator of Black Crossword, Juliana Pache!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello puzzlers. Before we start puzzling today, I wanted to
let you know we are cooking up some big plans
for the puzzler community, and in order to ensure that
it's what you want, we need your input. So we've
put together a short survey, which you can find in
the show notes. It's really quick, just three minutes, but
(00:22):
it will be a huge help in letting us know
what you want so that we can deliver just that.
Thank you, Hello puzzlers. Let's start with a quick puzzle.
What do these three things have in common? One wrinkles
around the outer corners of the eyes. Two feet that
(00:46):
turn inward when walking. Three excellent vision. Okay, what do
those have in common? Again? That's wrinkles around the outer
corners of the eyes, feet that turn inward when walking,
and three excellent vision. They all have something in common.
The answer and more puzzling goodness after the break, Hello puzzlers,
(01:16):
Welcome back to the Puzzler Podcast. The nineteen forty three
d Lincoln Bronze Weet Penny in your puzzle coin collection.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Whoao million dollars deep one for the new mismatists in
our audience exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
I'm glad you used that word. It's like should I
use it?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Leave it to use the word new musmatist. Thank you
a collector of coins. Just to be clear there, Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I'm your host, AJ Jacobs, and I'm here, of course,
with New Mismatist Chief puzzle Officer Greg Pliska. Greg. Before
the break, we challenge listeners to answer, what do these
three things have in common? Wrinkles around the outer corners
of the eyes, feet that turn inward when walking, and
excellent vision. Do you have any hypothesis?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Well, I would have felt really bird brained if I
hadn't figured this one out. You're looking for crows feet,
pigeon toad, and eagle eyed.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
I am indeed looking for that.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
And by the way, eagles do have good vision twenty fives,
so what we see at five feet they see at twenty.
But pigeons are not pigeon toad at least according to
my deep research.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Weird.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Where does that come from?
Speaker 5 (02:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I mean crows feet comes from the fact that those
wrinkles look like the feet of crows.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Like things, but pigeon toad.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
This, according to the ever reliable Internet, pigeons have four
toads on each foot, three pointing forward and one pointing backward,
according to the New Yorker. But then there's like all
this stuff about how their feet are kind of messed up,
especially in cities. Anyway, who knows our guest today does
(03:02):
not have crows feet or pigeon toes. But she is
the bee. You ready, I'm ready, But she is the
bee's knees. Oh wow, but it does fly and it's
the best that I could come up with.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
All right, Well, she's eagle eyed when it comes to
crossword puzzle.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Right and culture. There you go. She is the creator
of Black Crossword, which is a free daily mini crossword
puzzle with an emphasis on words and people from black culture,
and it is now available in a second book. There
are two books of the same name. Welcome Juliana pache.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Hey, guys, thank you again for having me.
Speaker 6 (03:43):
I'm excited to do some puzzles.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
I love it and we're excited, and you are going
to give us some clues from Black Crossword at the end.
But first, I believe, if I'm not mistaken, Greg Puliska
has a puzzle for you.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Do I do so, Juliana, You've got one of those
surnames that people trip over, right.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Or right?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
And uh, do you actually know where your surname comes from?
Do you know the origin?
Speaker 4 (04:15):
So I've I've looked it up so many times. I
believe it's French. It could be French, but it could
also I know for sure it's some form of Latin.
It could be Pache shortened for Pacheco, or it could
just be Poch, which is French. Someone once came up
to me and well, I have a jewelry a Julia
(04:37):
business as well Pace Studio. And so someone came up
to me at a market and said that they thought
it was Italian and that translated to the word piece.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
So I'm not sure it's I'm not sure.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
I want to say it's most likely French, but I'm
not sure.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Right right, Oh, it's so interesting. I've love I mean,
you know where names come from. It fascinates me as
someone whose name got only slightly mangled coming through Ellis Island.
But so what I was inspired by is the sh
you know, is it Pachache? So I decided to create
a puzzle around words and phrases with sh in them. Okay,
(05:20):
then we're going to mispronounce them with the ch sound
to make up something to make something else.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
Okay, and.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah, I've got an example. The things you need to
get at the grocery store becomes a record of who
went to the guillotine. So that first thing is the
shopping list. Right to a sound, it becomes the chopping list.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
Oh that's so good.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
So the first thing will always be an actual phrase
name or a phrase or you know, something that people use.
And then when you change the s h to the h,
it'll become something silly or fanciul that all clue as well.
Speaker 6 (06:06):
Okay, love it, I'm ready.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
And AJ, you haven't seen these yet, I have Juliana.
If you need to phone a friend to AJ is
your friend right here?
Speaker 6 (06:16):
Okay, great, all right, all right.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
The first thing is it's a it's a fatty product
often used in skin and haircare and sometimes in African cooking.
And it becomes a dairy product made from a famous
Cuban revolutionary.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
Oh wow, that's so good. I love this. Okay, Uh shade.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Butter, yeah, to shake of a right, but jay butter?
Speaker 6 (06:40):
Oh cha butter butter?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, all right, all right, all right, very good,
all right, the largest portion of something becomes where the
king of beasts sits. The largest portion of something and
becomes where the king of beasts sits. And in this case,
the sh is not at the beginning, it's in the
(07:03):
middle of the phrase. It's a two word phrase.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
It's a large portion of something.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
So who's the right, who's the king of beasts? According
to Disney, Oh, the.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Lion king, the lion. Lion is the king of beasts.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
A lion, Okay, the lion is the king of beest right,
so okay.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
There's a phrase for the largest portion of something that
uses lion.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Oh, okay, lion's share, right, that's it becomes lion's chair.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yes, exactly, Okay, love this?
Speaker 6 (07:42):
Oh this is fun?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
All right? All right, how good?
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Greg. We did discuss on a previous episode that we
are trying to move away from a monarchy. So we
say it's the president elected President of the animal Presidency
of Republic.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
The dictator of beasts, I think is all right? All right?
So this is a large vessel, ocean going vessel used
for war, and it becomes a fighting potato snack, A.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
Fighting vessel used for war.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, and it becomes a fighting potato snack. It's also
it's also a game. The vessel is also the name
of a game you.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
Play on like oh, battleship yep, battle.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Chip battle Chip. Yes, nice, fun, all right, we got
time for what do you say? A couple more a
j Yeah, let's do. This is a soul food side dish,
also a common Thanksgiving offering, and it becomes a pair
of identical tubers, identical starchy you know, food products. So
(09:04):
go ahead, thinking.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
I'm thinking mashed potato.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
There you go, change the s h to a.
Speaker 6 (09:10):
H match potato.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Match potatoes potatoes that match. Yes, all right, all right,
this is the last one. This is the name for
the pound sign in social media posts, and it becomes
a label on a boat.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Okay, hashtag yep, change hatchtag, hatchtag yeah nice?
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Okay, good, well done, Because like a hatch on the
boat that you lift up to get.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Out on the hatch. Yeah, you don't know where it is,
say bat in the hatches. You got to figure out
where they are.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
You use that where the hatches? You need a tag? Excellent? Well,
thank you Greg, Juliana you as we mentioned, our creator
of black Crossword, a daily mini puzzle. Now available in
(10:15):
two books, one that just came out. So we thought
you could challenge us Greg and May with some black
crossword clue.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Wait, I have a question, Juliana. Yes, if there's a
book of Minis and then there's a second book of Midis,
I mean the rule of threes says there's a third book,
there has.
Speaker 6 (10:36):
To be a third book.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Right, Do I have to call Harper Collins and demand
pre order? Let me make this happen.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
Oh my god, I hope so well. I mean, we
shall see.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
I'm hoping for a third and a fourth and a
fifth book fingers crossed.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
Yeah, I've got plenty of material.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
And do you get letters from people or email comments?
Like would you hear from the people who are doing
the puzzle? Oh?
Speaker 6 (11:02):
Yeah, I get emails.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
I also do a live puzzling event at Liz's Book
Bar in Brooklyn.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
And so I came to one of the I came
to one of the book launch parties there.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Great.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Yes, So we started doing after that, we started doing
some live puzzling.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
It's really fun.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
So I'll get a lot of feedback there about the
website and about the puzzles that I include at those events.
But yeah, I always get emails, I get tweets, I
get messages about different clues that people were excited to see.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
So it's been lovely good.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Oh I'm so glad. I'm so glad. All right, well
give us some clues.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
All right, let's see what we got here. Here's a
fun one.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
This one is three letters good looking in slang, good
looking and slang. And I would maybe focus on the
word good.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Okay, Right, it's not going to be hot hot, is
it obvious?
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Right, yeah, it's not going to be hot hot, So
focus on the word good.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
So good.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Look, you want to be thinking almost like.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
It's funny because the word the word is.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
The opposite and it's not bad. It's not going to
be bad.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
It is bad. It is bad. Yep.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Now is that current slang? Because I always thought slaw
that in like seventies movies. Oh yeah, something people say.
Speaker 6 (12:39):
People definitely still use it, yep.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Interesting, all right, love it, but.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
They use it kind of in a different flavor. Like
nobody's gonna say she's a bad mamma jama.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
No one said bad mamma jamma since nineteen seventy eight.
It's we're the first people to.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
Say that.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Love all right, give us another.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
Okay, here's here's a fun one. This one's an interesting one.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Wild plants in Jamaican patois, and this is four letters,
wild plants in Jamaican patois.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
And these are specific plants.
Speaker 6 (13:21):
They are not specific.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
They're actually not specific at all.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Oh, okay, So it would be a term like like
the term weeds, right, it would be yea category. But
these aren't weeds? Is too long?
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Are weed? Weed is four letters? It's not weed.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
I think Jamaican weed means something else. Just gonna go.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
I'll give you in that. Sometimes people make tea out
of this.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Is it leaf not not leaf?
Speaker 6 (13:55):
You're in the right family. You're in the right family.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Well, I'll give you another hint that the word S
is in the word.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
The letter is in the world.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
The letter S is in the word. It's the third letter.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Is it something like dust? Word? Does it end with t?
Speaker 6 (14:15):
It does not not hash? No, you're so close though
it does.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
It does end in the letter h h. All right,
there are only a couple hundred that we could go through,
so handsh mesh cash rhymes bush.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
Yes, right like bush t exactly.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Excellent A you got one more, give us the hard
one that you were threatened.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Because we got those other ones so quickly.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
You know what, that actually was the hard one. But
I do have, I do have that was hard. Actually
this one I don't know. I don't know this one.
This one is a toss up.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Okay, this one is four letters. Connected person in.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
Slang, not a made person, not a made person.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Not boss, not boss.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
And and you might actually be wanting to think about
electronics connected person, not a.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Bulb or a wire, not a wire.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
But you're getting warmer ye.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Someone who is plug plug plug It's that, is it?
Speaker 6 (15:44):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Plug plug a plug. I like that. I like that.
That's a good phrase.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
For example, if you want to get into a really
cool party, you might have a friend who is the
plug and gets you in.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Very good, very good. Well, thank you, Juliana. And where
can people they can find Black Crossword online?
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Yes, so the daily mini puzzle is at Black Crossword
dot com. It's free to play. The books are available
wherever you get your books, and we are at Black
Crossword on all socials.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
And how often are you at Lizz's Book Bar in Brooklyn?
Speaker 6 (16:21):
Once a month?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Once a month? So you can also stop by Lizzi's
and pick up the books if you want. If you
want to support independent bookstores, go to Lizzes in Brooklyn
and get your books there.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
That's great, please, and we'll have you back before the
third book for your triple double? And Greg, do you
have an extra credit for the folks at.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Home, I do have an extra credit. So if you remember,
we were playing with phrases that have sh in them
and we were changing the sah to a ch, so
your extra credit is actually a double. There are two
Sh'S in the in the actual phrase, and it changes
into a more fanciful one with c ches. The clue is,
(17:07):
the practice of grooming ovines for wool becomes inexpensive sports chanting.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Okay, give it one more time before we go.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
The practice of grooming ovines for wool becomes inexpensive sports chanting.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
All right, So think about that and in the meantime,
I'm gonna thank Greg, I'm gonna thank Juliana, and thank
you listeners. If you have some time and are itching
for more puzzles, check out our Instagram feed where we
post original puzzles, visual puzzles, lots of fun stuff. At
Hello Puzzlers is where you'll find it, and we'll meet
(17:49):
here tomorrow for more puzzling puzzles that will puzzle you puzzlingly.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Hey, puzzle, it's Greg Pliska, your chief puzzle Officer, here
with the extra credit answer from our previous episode. We
had the Great Juliana Pache with us and we played
some I rhymes. Those are pairs of words that look
like they should rhyme, but they don't. And your clue
to this two word I rhyme was this clothes that
are used to hide someone's identity on a big ship
(18:23):
or on a big ship journey. That, of course is
your voyage camouflage. Two nice words from the French that
don't rhyme, although I guess they do in the original French,
but not here in bastardized English. Thanks for playing along
in our mother tongue, and we look forward to playing
more puzzles with you next time.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Thanks for playing along with the team here at the
Puzzler with Aj Jacobs. I'm Greg Pliska, your chief puzzle Officer.
Our executive producers are Neelie Lohman and Adam Neuhouse of
New House Ideas and Jonathan Strickland of iHeart Podcasts. The
show is produced by Jody Afrigan and Brittany Brown of
Roulette Productions, with production support from Claire Bitegar Curtis. Our
(19:09):
senior puzzler is Andrea Schoenberg. The Puzzler with Ajjacobs is
a co production with New House Ideas and is distributed
by Rhapsodic State. We here at Rapsodic State, No No
Wait Rearrange It distributed by iHeart Podcasts. If you want
(19:29):
to know more about puzzling puzzles, please check out the
book The Puzzler by AJ Jacobs, a history of puzzles
that The New York Times called fun and funny. It
features an original puzzle hunt by yours Truly and is
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(19:51):
you there,
Hello puzzlers. Before we start puzzling today, I wanted to
let you know we are cooking up some big plans
for the puzzler community, and in order to ensure that
it's what you want, we need your input. So we've
put together a short survey, which you can find in
the show notes. It's really quick, just three minutes, but
(00:22):
it will be a huge help in letting us know
what you want so that we can deliver just that.
Thank you, Hello puzzlers. Let's start with a quick puzzle.
What do these three things have in common? One wrinkles
around the outer corners of the eyes. Two feet that
(00:46):
turn inward when walking. Three excellent vision. Okay, what do
those have in common? Again? That's wrinkles around the outer
corners of the eyes, feet that turn inward when walking,
and three excellent vision. They all have something in common.
The answer and more puzzling goodness after the break, Hello puzzlers,
(01:16):
Welcome back to the Puzzler Podcast. The nineteen forty three
d Lincoln Bronze Weet Penny in your puzzle coin collection.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Whoao million dollars deep one for the new mismatists in
our audience exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
I'm glad you used that word. It's like should I
use it?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Leave it to use the word new musmatist. Thank you
a collector of coins. Just to be clear there, Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I'm your host, AJ Jacobs, and I'm here, of course,
with New Mismatist Chief puzzle Officer Greg Pliska. Greg. Before
the break, we challenge listeners to answer, what do these
three things have in common? Wrinkles around the outer corners
of the eyes, feet that turn inward when walking, and
excellent vision. Do you have any hypothesis?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Well, I would have felt really bird brained if I
hadn't figured this one out. You're looking for crows feet,
pigeon toad, and eagle eyed.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
I am indeed looking for that.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
And by the way, eagles do have good vision twenty fives,
so what we see at five feet they see at twenty.
But pigeons are not pigeon toad at least according to
my deep research.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Weird.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Where does that come from?
Speaker 5 (02:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I mean crows feet comes from the fact that those
wrinkles look like the feet of crows.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Like things, but pigeon toad.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
This, according to the ever reliable Internet, pigeons have four
toads on each foot, three pointing forward and one pointing backward,
according to the New Yorker. But then there's like all
this stuff about how their feet are kind of messed up,
especially in cities. Anyway, who knows our guest today does
(03:02):
not have crows feet or pigeon toes. But she is
the bee. You ready, I'm ready, But she is the
bee's knees. Oh wow, but it does fly and it's
the best that I could come up with.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
All right, Well, she's eagle eyed when it comes to
crossword puzzle.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Right and culture. There you go. She is the creator
of Black Crossword, which is a free daily mini crossword
puzzle with an emphasis on words and people from black culture,
and it is now available in a second book. There
are two books of the same name. Welcome Juliana pache.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Hey, guys, thank you again for having me.
Speaker 6 (03:43):
I'm excited to do some puzzles.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
I love it and we're excited, and you are going
to give us some clues from Black Crossword at the end.
But first, I believe, if I'm not mistaken, Greg Puliska
has a puzzle for you.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Do I do so, Juliana, You've got one of those
surnames that people trip over, right.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Or right?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
And uh, do you actually know where your surname comes from?
Do you know the origin?
Speaker 4 (04:15):
So I've I've looked it up so many times. I
believe it's French. It could be French, but it could
also I know for sure it's some form of Latin.
It could be Pache shortened for Pacheco, or it could
just be Poch, which is French. Someone once came up
to me and well, I have a jewelry a Julia
(04:37):
business as well Pace Studio. And so someone came up
to me at a market and said that they thought
it was Italian and that translated to the word piece.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
So I'm not sure it's I'm not sure.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
I want to say it's most likely French, but I'm
not sure.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Right right, Oh, it's so interesting. I've love I mean,
you know where names come from. It fascinates me as
someone whose name got only slightly mangled coming through Ellis Island.
But so what I was inspired by is the sh
you know, is it Pachache? So I decided to create
a puzzle around words and phrases with sh in them. Okay,
(05:20):
then we're going to mispronounce them with the ch sound
to make up something to make something else.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
Okay, and.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah, I've got an example. The things you need to
get at the grocery store becomes a record of who
went to the guillotine. So that first thing is the
shopping list. Right to a sound, it becomes the chopping list.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
Oh that's so good.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
So the first thing will always be an actual phrase
name or a phrase or you know, something that people use.
And then when you change the s h to the h,
it'll become something silly or fanciul that all clue as well.
Speaker 6 (06:06):
Okay, love it, I'm ready.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
And AJ, you haven't seen these yet, I have Juliana.
If you need to phone a friend to AJ is
your friend right here?
Speaker 6 (06:16):
Okay, great, all right, all right.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
The first thing is it's a it's a fatty product
often used in skin and haircare and sometimes in African cooking.
And it becomes a dairy product made from a famous
Cuban revolutionary.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
Oh wow, that's so good. I love this. Okay, Uh shade.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Butter, yeah, to shake of a right, but jay butter?
Speaker 6 (06:40):
Oh cha butter butter?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, all right, all right, all right, very good,
all right, the largest portion of something becomes where the
king of beasts sits. The largest portion of something and
becomes where the king of beasts sits. And in this case,
the sh is not at the beginning, it's in the
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middle of the phrase. It's a two word phrase.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
It's a large portion of something.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
So who's the right, who's the king of beasts? According
to Disney, Oh, the.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Lion king, the lion. Lion is the king of beasts.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
A lion, Okay, the lion is the king of beest right,
so okay.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
There's a phrase for the largest portion of something that
uses lion.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Oh, okay, lion's share, right, that's it becomes lion's chair.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yes, exactly, Okay, love this?
Speaker 6 (07:42):
Oh this is fun?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
All right? All right, how good?
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Greg. We did discuss on a previous episode that we
are trying to move away from a monarchy. So we
say it's the president elected President of the animal Presidency
of Republic.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
The dictator of beasts, I think is all right? All right?
So this is a large vessel, ocean going vessel used
for war, and it becomes a fighting potato snack, A.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
Fighting vessel used for war.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, and it becomes a fighting potato snack. It's also
it's also a game. The vessel is also the name
of a game you.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
Play on like oh, battleship yep, battle.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Chip battle Chip. Yes, nice, fun, all right, we got
time for what do you say? A couple more a
j Yeah, let's do. This is a soul food side dish,
also a common Thanksgiving offering, and it becomes a pair
of identical tubers, identical starchy you know, food products. So
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go ahead, thinking.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
I'm thinking mashed potato.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
There you go, change the s h to a.
Speaker 6 (09:10):
H match potato.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Match potatoes potatoes that match. Yes, all right, all right,
this is the last one. This is the name for
the pound sign in social media posts, and it becomes
a label on a boat.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Okay, hashtag yep, change hatchtag, hatchtag yeah nice?
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Okay, good, well done, Because like a hatch on the
boat that you lift up to get.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Out on the hatch. Yeah, you don't know where it is,
say bat in the hatches. You got to figure out
where they are.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
You use that where the hatches? You need a tag? Excellent? Well,
thank you Greg, Juliana you as we mentioned, our creator
of black Crossword, a daily mini puzzle. Now available in
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two books, one that just came out. So we thought
you could challenge us Greg and May with some black
crossword clue.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Wait, I have a question, Juliana. Yes, if there's a
book of Minis and then there's a second book of Midis,
I mean the rule of threes says there's a third book,
there has.
Speaker 6 (10:36):
To be a third book.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Right, Do I have to call Harper Collins and demand
pre order? Let me make this happen.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
Oh my god, I hope so well. I mean, we
shall see.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
I'm hoping for a third and a fourth and a
fifth book fingers crossed.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
Yeah, I've got plenty of material.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
And do you get letters from people or email comments?
Like would you hear from the people who are doing
the puzzle? Oh?
Speaker 6 (11:02):
Yeah, I get emails.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
I also do a live puzzling event at Liz's Book
Bar in Brooklyn.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
And so I came to one of the I came
to one of the book launch parties there.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Great.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Yes, So we started doing after that, we started doing
some live puzzling.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
It's really fun.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
So I'll get a lot of feedback there about the
website and about the puzzles that I include at those events.
But yeah, I always get emails, I get tweets, I
get messages about different clues that people were excited to see.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
So it's been lovely good.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Oh I'm so glad. I'm so glad. All right, well
give us some clues.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
All right, let's see what we got here. Here's a
fun one.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
This one is three letters good looking in slang, good
looking and slang. And I would maybe focus on the
word good.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Okay, Right, it's not going to be hot hot, is
it obvious?
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Right, yeah, it's not going to be hot hot, So
focus on the word good.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
So good.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Look, you want to be thinking almost like.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
It's funny because the word the word is.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
The opposite and it's not bad. It's not going to
be bad.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
It is bad. It is bad. Yep.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Now is that current slang? Because I always thought slaw
that in like seventies movies. Oh yeah, something people say.
Speaker 6 (12:39):
People definitely still use it, yep.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Interesting, all right, love it, but.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
They use it kind of in a different flavor. Like
nobody's gonna say she's a bad mamma jama.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
No one said bad mamma jamma since nineteen seventy eight.
It's we're the first people to.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
Say that.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Love all right, give us another.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
Okay, here's here's a fun one. This one's an interesting one.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Wild plants in Jamaican patois, and this is four letters,
wild plants in Jamaican patois.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
And these are specific plants.
Speaker 6 (13:21):
They are not specific.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
They're actually not specific at all.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Oh, okay, So it would be a term like like
the term weeds, right, it would be yea category. But
these aren't weeds? Is too long?
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Are weed? Weed is four letters? It's not weed.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
I think Jamaican weed means something else. Just gonna go.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
I'll give you in that. Sometimes people make tea out
of this.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Is it leaf not not leaf?
Speaker 6 (13:55):
You're in the right family. You're in the right family.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Well, I'll give you another hint that the word S
is in the word.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
The letter is in the world.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
The letter S is in the word. It's the third letter.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Is it something like dust? Word? Does it end with t?
Speaker 6 (14:15):
It does not not hash? No, you're so close though
it does.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
It does end in the letter h h. All right,
there are only a couple hundred that we could go through,
so handsh mesh cash rhymes bush.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
Yes, right like bush t exactly.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Excellent A you got one more, give us the hard
one that you were threatened.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Because we got those other ones so quickly.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
You know what, that actually was the hard one. But
I do have, I do have that was hard. Actually
this one I don't know. I don't know this one.
This one is a toss up.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Okay, this one is four letters. Connected person in.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
Slang, not a made person, not a made person.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Not boss, not boss.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
And and you might actually be wanting to think about
electronics connected person, not a.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Bulb or a wire, not a wire.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
But you're getting warmer ye.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Someone who is plug plug plug It's that, is it?
Speaker 6 (15:44):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Plug plug a plug. I like that. I like that.
That's a good phrase.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
For example, if you want to get into a really
cool party, you might have a friend who is the
plug and gets you in.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Very good, very good. Well, thank you, Juliana. And where
can people they can find Black Crossword online?
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Yes, so the daily mini puzzle is at Black Crossword
dot com. It's free to play. The books are available
wherever you get your books, and we are at Black
Crossword on all socials.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
And how often are you at Lizz's Book Bar in Brooklyn?
Speaker 6 (16:21):
Once a month?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Once a month? So you can also stop by Lizzi's
and pick up the books if you want. If you
want to support independent bookstores, go to Lizzes in Brooklyn
and get your books there.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
That's great, please, and we'll have you back before the
third book for your triple double? And Greg, do you
have an extra credit for the folks at.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Home, I do have an extra credit. So if you remember,
we were playing with phrases that have sh in them
and we were changing the sah to a ch, so
your extra credit is actually a double. There are two
Sh'S in the in the actual phrase, and it changes
into a more fanciful one with c ches. The clue is,
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the practice of grooming ovines for wool becomes inexpensive sports chanting.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Okay, give it one more time before we go.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
The practice of grooming ovines for wool becomes inexpensive sports chanting.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
All right, So think about that and in the meantime,
I'm gonna thank Greg, I'm gonna thank Juliana, and thank
you listeners. If you have some time and are itching
for more puzzles, check out our Instagram feed where we
post original puzzles, visual puzzles, lots of fun stuff. At
Hello Puzzlers is where you'll find it, and we'll meet
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here tomorrow for more puzzling puzzles that will puzzle you puzzlingly.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Hey, puzzle, it's Greg Pliska, your chief puzzle Officer, here
with the extra credit answer from our previous episode. We
had the Great Juliana Pache with us and we played
some I rhymes. Those are pairs of words that look
like they should rhyme, but they don't. And your clue
to this two word I rhyme was this clothes that
are used to hide someone's identity on a big ship
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or on a big ship journey. That, of course is
your voyage camouflage. Two nice words from the French that
don't rhyme, although I guess they do in the original French,
but not here in bastardized English. Thanks for playing along
in our mother tongue, and we look forward to playing
more puzzles with you next time.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Thanks for playing along with the team here at the
Puzzler with Aj Jacobs. I'm Greg Pliska, your chief puzzle Officer.
Our executive producers are Neelie Lohman and Adam Neuhouse of
New House Ideas and Jonathan Strickland of iHeart Podcasts. The
show is produced by Jody Afrigan and Brittany Brown of
Roulette Productions, with production support from Claire Bitegar Curtis. Our
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senior puzzler is Andrea Schoenberg. The Puzzler with Ajjacobs is
a co production with New House Ideas and is distributed
by Rhapsodic State. We here at Rapsodic State, No No
Wait Rearrange It distributed by iHeart Podcasts. If you want
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to know more about puzzling puzzles, please check out the
book The Puzzler by AJ Jacobs, a history of puzzles
that The New York Times called fun and funny. It
features an original puzzle hunt by yours Truly and is
available wherever you get your books and puzzlers. For all
your puzzling needs, go visit the puzzler dot com. See
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you there,
Hosts And Creators
Greg Pliska
A.J. Jacobs
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