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June 11, 2025 16 mins

Hello, Puzzlers! This week, A.J. and Greg celebrate Father's Day by puzzling with their kids!

Join host A.J. Jacobs and his guests as they puzzle–and laugh–their way through new spins on old favorites, like anagrams and palindromes, as well as quirky originals such as “Ask AI” and audio rebuses.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello puzzlers. Let's start with a quick puzzle. This mini
puzzle is in honor of our esteemed guest today, whose
name is Jasper Jacobs and who happens to be my son.
The name Jasper Jacobs, he might have noticed, has some
alliteration going on JJ. Those are his initials. So my

(00:24):
question for you during the break, can you come up
with some other notable people who have the initials JJ
in addition to Jasper Jacobs. One is Julie Jacobs, my wife.
That's one answer. There's also writer James Joyce, who, by
the way, side note, wrote the most literate love letters

(00:46):
ever about farts. It's true if you google James Joyce
and farts, he'll get some wonderful, poetic, naughty reading. That aside,
I'm looking for people with the initials JJ, And for
both points, can you name three great female singers, all
with the initials JJ. The answering and more puzzling goodness

(01:09):
after the break, Hello puzzlers, Welcome back to the Puzzler
the Sewage Tunnel in your puzzle prison escape movie. Before
the break, we asked you to come up with some
names of people notable people with the initials JJ, like

(01:31):
my son, Jasper Jacobs. There's the outlaw, Jesse James, the
above mentioned James Joyce, the writer, Jacobs, the painter, Jasper John's,
who we did not name Jasper after, but Jasper did
have a Jasper John's poster in his room for a
long time. FYI, as I mentioned, there are no less

(01:53):
than three great female singers with the initials JJ. That
would be Jon Jet, Janis Joplin, and Janet Jackson. I'm
sure there are plenty more, so please send your favorite
jjs to us at the Puzzler dot com. But in
the meantime, I have with me a person I believe
might be the greatest JJ of all time, and that

(02:15):
is my son, Jasper Jacobs. Welcome, Jasper.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Thank you for having me on the podcast Dayjay, I
really appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
You are so professional. I love it, Jasper. As I
mentioned when I asked Slash forced you to come on
the Puzzler, this week is a Father's Day week on
the Puzzler. In honor of Father's Day coming this Sunday,
and as a Father's Day gift to me and Greg,
we're making our kids puzzle with us. So congratulations.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
I feel absolutely honored to be part of this great podcast.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Excellently love it. There was a little pause before we
were honored. I was nervous, but.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yeah, well, and I'd also like to just mentioned that
I do still have the Jasper John's painting in my room,
and as my father, I would. I'm a little disappointed
by the fact that you don't know that.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Okay, well, I just wanted to be safe. It is
technically true that you used to have it, because you
did used to have it, but you still have it.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
But there's a connotation there that used to implies that
it is not president anymore.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yes, guilty as charge, All right, guilty at charge.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
I just want to keep you in line, that's all.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Listen. Fact checking is important on the puzzler. We really
appreciate it now. Jasper never likes it when I do
the proud parent thing and talk about how great he is,
but it is Father's Day, so I'm going to overrule
him and say three quick things.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
One.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Jasper was part of Team USA in the World Jigsaw
Puzzle Championships a few years ago. Jasper, are you glad
you were part of that historic day?

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Oh? Yeah, I mean I use it in all my
interview answers talking about how I became a challenge, so,
you know, definitely super helpful.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
You came a challenge, overcame a challenge to play second
to last. Yeah, that's great. Second, Jasper is so much
better than I am at strategy games. It's kind of embarrassing.
It turned. I think when I were about eight years
old and you started to beat me at Katan Ticket

(04:24):
to Ride Chess, he crushes me. So how do you
do it? Jasper? What am I doing wrong?

Speaker 2 (04:30):
You gotta agent, you gotta take into account the math.
I mean, I'm pulling out the calculator, making sure that
all my numbers add up.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
But you actually don't use a calculator. You you do
it all in your head.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
But you're right.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
I am there. I'm not using math like I should.
I'm just sort of letting it wash over me in
an impressionistic way. And that's a mistake, all right. Number three. Finally,
he is a finance major at Case Western Reserve University,
and Jasper is slowly teaching me how to be financially
literate and what all of these business terms actually mean,

(05:08):
Like the Federal Reserve. I'm sort of getting finally what
they do. So thank you, Jasper for that.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
It's my pleasure.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
And Jasper, since you are a finance major, I have
a Wall Street puzzle for you.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Sounds perfect. Let's go all right.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
It's called stock phrases, and every answer is going to
be two words. One word will be a company and
the other word will be a word that rhymes with
that corporation. So if I gave the clue this is
an example, you don't have to get it. A small
horse at the headquarters of a Japanese electronics giant. The

(05:47):
answer to that is a Sony pony. So it's always
going to be a company and a rhyme. And I
realize there's probably not a pony at the Sony headquarters.
But this is it's about suspension of disbelief. You're okay
with that, right?

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah. I like to think of myself as someone who
has quite a vivid imagination.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
So you do, you do? I've seen it in action.
By the way, all the companies today I'm using are
in the Fortune one hundreds, So these are the from
the biggest one hundred US companies. Are you ready?

Speaker 2 (06:21):
I'm ready? Let's go all right, here we go.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Oh and some of them, by the way, are going
to be three three words, mostly two words, but some
three words. If the company is You're ready.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Now important kind of an important detail there A.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
First of all, thank you for calling me AJ. That
makes you it's nice and informal instead of mister Jacobs. H.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
I feel you deserve some respect, but just not too much.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Right, So you know when you were like two years old,
you did call me AJ instead of that.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
I've heard the stories, which I think it's funny. I
regress from AJ to dad and kind of that's been
my style.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yeah, you went AJ dad, Now you're back to AJ. Okay,
all right. This is the junk food that you can
get at the biggest investment bank.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
So I'm thinking it's going to be Goldman Sacks, right,
So Goldman Sacks snacks, Sacks.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
No, if you got it, snacks, that's it, Goldman Sacks snacks. Yes,
you got it, Goldman Sacks snacks. Well done. All right,
Now I got another. I'm going with a second food,
one in a row. This is the Greek cheese made
by Facebook's parent company.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
So Facebook's parent company is going to be Meta and
I'm assuming it's Feta cheese. So Meta Feta, Meta Feta
lay that two for two.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
I'm listen. If you don't get them, I'll be just
as proud of you.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
You know that.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
You know I am a fan of trying, even if
you don't succeed. All right, how about this is the
god of one of America's biggest car companies. So it
is the deity I guess worshiped at this company. Bord Lord,
Ford Lord. That's correct. All right, these are not presenting

(08:22):
you with enough of a challenge. How about this is
the rolled oats and raisins that you might eat at
the world's most popular soft drink companies headquarters.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Okay, so I'm thinking it's gonna be coca cola or
pepsi and the rolled raisins. I'm not entirely sure what
that could even mean, but I'll say, uh.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Rolled oats, raisins, dried fruit, a little bit of honey.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Hmm. It's not clicking any It's like what you.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Eat sometimes when you're going out hiking.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Ah, Coca cola granola.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Coca cola granola. Exactly, well done. All right. I'm glad
that one gave you a little bit of a pause
because you were just going too fast.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
All right.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
How about this is a keyboard instrument played in the
lobby of one of the biggest investment banks. In fact,
I think it is the biggest. The CEO is Jamie Diamond.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Well you're giving it away there come, well not to everyone. Well,
so it's gonna be JP Morgan Chase. I don't know
if you're using the full name, but let's say JP
and I don't know it's the church. It's yes, JP
Morgan Organ. That's it.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
You got. Now you bring up a good point because
the real name is JP Morgan Chase. And I thought
of doing JP Morgan Chase bass as in bass, guitar
and other their instrument, but that seemed a lot. All right,

(10:08):
how about this is an odor that comes from a
large computer company. They make a lot of PCs. They
were founded by a guy named Michael in nineteen eighty four,
and it is an odor so interesting.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
So I think of the song The Farmer and the Dell.
So I'm thinking it's going to be Dell, and then
it would be smell. I guess, yes, smellll. Have you
ever heard that song?

Speaker 1 (10:37):
I love that song? A farmer? Okay, that's good, alright,
all right, A couple of more A couple of more
and then you're done. You made it through. How about
this is a large supermarket chain based in Ohio.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
I think I'm going to get this.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
And this is a cruel monster who works there, a
Shrek like mine monster who works at this Kroger Ogre
Baby Kroger Ogre. It is exactly. Did you know Jasper
goes to the school in Ohio case Western awesome school.
So is that how you know Kroger or you know?

Speaker 2 (11:18):
The name sounds familiar and I'm I would say I'm
definitely up to date with my regional grocery stores.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Excellent, all right, how about I give you all right,
I'm going to give you two more? You ready?

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Good? All right?

Speaker 1 (11:34):
This is an a hole who works at the world's
oldest pharmaceutical company. An a hole schmuck.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Okay, I'm having a little difficulty with the pharmaceutical partser
maderna good.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Yeah, but no neither of those. It rhymes with when
you go to the office, you go to the lank. Yes,
so it rhymes with work and it starts with.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
It's an a hole who merk mark Okay, that name
sounds familiar.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Merk jerk mark jerk exactly, you got it all right.
Last one, Now, this one is interesting because I never
noticed this, but there are two companies on the Fortune
one hundred that are spelled differently, but they are pronounced
the same. One makes computers, hardware and software, and one

(12:34):
is like wholesale food and grocery. They sale to restaurants.
And another is the singer of the Thong song. So
the Thong song. So I don't think he is on
the Fortune one hundred. But this is a dance club
for either of those companies.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
A dance club, so it would be a disco, maybe
a disco and Cisco.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
That's it, a Disco Cisco or Cisco Disco. Yeah, so
Cisco is either Cisco or Sysco. So that makes that
concerns me. I'm worried that you call up your broker
in nineteen seventy two and say one hundred thousand on
Cisco and they put it on the wrong Cisco. Is

(13:24):
that you're a finance nator?

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Do you think that's a that's a valid concern.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
I think they probably should change their name just because
of that.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
All right, good, we have accomplished something well, Jasper. You
did fantastic as expected, Jasper, is, by the way, he
is a great asset in escape rooms. I remember in
one escape room, I spent like ten minutes studying the
flickering light bulb because I was sure that there was

(13:55):
going to be a pattern there. And it turned out
it was just a flickering light bulb. And you know
that they didn't they had not replaced the light bulbs
well while I was doing that, Jasper is actually solving puzzles.
So thank you, Jasper. I'm so proud of you. I'm
so honored to be your dad. Thank you for coming
on the puzzler. All right, I have one more extra

(14:17):
credit for the folks at home. This is the place
where people go to pray when they're working at the
company founded by Steve Jobs and Steve Wassniak. So the
place to worship at the company founded by Steve Jobs

(14:37):
and Wasniak. Thank you again, listeners, and thank you for
making my father's day so great. Jasper, and come back
tomorrow for the answer to the extra credit. In the meantime, folks,
you can check out our Instagram feed at Hello Puzzlers.
We have new puzzles there all the time, visual puzzles,

(14:57):
and we'll meet you here tomorrow for more puzzling that
will puzzle you puzzlingly.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
Hello puzzlers, it's your chief puzzle Officer, Greg plisk here
with the extra credit answer from our previous episode. Margo
Pliska played a game with us called Pop's Music, assisted
by the excellent Lucas Jacobs. Every answer is a pop song,
particularly one that's popular with gen z as misunderstood by

(15:29):
their pops, me and AJ. So this is this is
another Taylor Swift song, which is about when your father's
sister is your idol. Now you got to pronounce this correctly.
Some of us say Auntie, but in this case we're
looking for Auntie and the answer is anti hero, which
I guess is not actually about my aunt and why

(15:50):
she's my idol and role model. Anyway, glad you played
along with us. Catch you next time for some more
puzzling puzzles that will puzzle you Father's Day puzzlingly
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