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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Broadcasting from the Civic Cipher Studios. Welcome to the QR Code,
where we share perspective, seek understanding, and shape outcomes. The
man you are about to hear from is a man
that rightfully so. He never lets me get too carried
away with the rainbows and the butterflies. Somebody's got to
keep these two feet of mine on the ground. He
is a qu in the QR code, goes by the
name of q Ward.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
The voice you just heard sincerely believes we can do
anything we can both his superpower and his delusion. He
is the R in the QR code. He goes by
the name ramses Jah.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
And we need to stick around a little Later on
in the show, we are going to ask each other
a question that I think you might want to hear
our answers to. We certainly don't know the answer yet. No,
I don't know what he was going to say. It
doesn't know what I'm gonna say. But does black privilege exist?
Which has been said about white privilege?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Does black privilege exist?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Anxious to hear your thoughts there, q Ward's clapback because racism.
Excited to hear your thoughts, they're c I'm sure our
listeners are as well. We're also going to be sharing
some opinions on a story that we came across father
daughter dance that took place in a Louisiana prison. We
(01:12):
got a chance to peak behind the scenes there and
just kind of see what that looked like. And of
course we have some critiques of the car solo system
around here, but it's kind of a combination of a
heartwarming story plus the failure of a society to keep
(01:35):
its promise to at least one group of its citizens.
So we're going to share our thoughts there. For culture,
we're going to be talking about Donald Trump's MRI. He
says his MRI was perfect, although he was not entirely
sure what part of his body was scanned. So yeah,
(01:56):
more of the same from the Trump administration. But right now,
we're going to start off with a feel good feature
as always, and today's feel good feature it's a little different,
a little bit of a departure.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
You know.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Right around now people are donating, you know, giving Tuesday,
all that sort of stuff. We're going to share from
the BI in something that you can do to feel good.
Maybe the story still needs a little bit more to it, but.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
We'll start here.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Relief efforts are continuing in Jamaica as the islands is
still reeling from Hurricane Melissa, and your support this giving
season could make a major impact. Last month, Hurricane Melissa
hammered Jamaica as a Category five storm, leaving the country
to confront one of the most severe humanitarian and public
health crises in modern history, inflicting and estimated six to
ten billion dollars in damage and affecting more than three
(02:45):
hundred and sixty thousand people. At least forty five people
have died, thirteen remain missing in tens of thousands are displaced.
The devastation has triggered further emergencies. Health officials have declared
leprotose sorry, lepto leptose pyrosis.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I think that's how I say that.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Outbreak reporting confirmed cases, suspected fatalities, and dozens more under
investigation of floodwaters contaminated drinking supplies. The risk of dengey
typhoid and tanatic tetanus SORRY is rising and already strained
clinics are struggling to reach isolated communities cut off by
washed out roads, and for Jamaican's on the ground, the
(03:27):
rebuilding process will require global support. There's a few names here,
but again this is all at biennews dot com if
you want to find out which one of these agencies
is most aligned with your.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Values.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
But a few to name that we have here Adventist
Development and Relief Agency, World Central Kitchen, Jamaica, Red Cross,
American Friends of Jamaica CORE, and there are several others.
Again bi in news dot com. I know the story
doesn't feel good, but if you want to make a difference,
that might help you feel good. So don't forget about
Jamaica again, bi innews dot com. All right, on to
(04:06):
what's going on in the culture. Trump says his MRI
was perfect. This again from the bin. President Donald Trump
has vowed to release the perfect results from the MRI
he received in October, while also claiming that he doesn't
know what part of his body was scanned. Trump made
the comments about his MRI while aboard Air Force One
as you returned to Washington from Florida on Sunday, November thirtieth.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
If you want to have it released, I'll release it, unquote,
the President told reporters, adding that his MRI results were perfect.
The White House has refused to specify why the MRI
was conducted during Trump's routine physical last month or what
prompted doctors to order the imaging. Officials have also not
disclosed which area of the president's body was examined. Press
Secretary Caroline Levitt previously described the MRI as advanced imaging
(04:54):
that occurred during Trump's annual physical, which was performed at
Walter Reed National Military Medical Center. Levitt claimed the results
showed that the president remains in quote exceptional physical health unquote,
but she declined to address any details about the scan itself.
On Sunday, Trump insisted that he didn't know which part
(05:15):
of his body the doctors had checked. Quote, I have
no idea on what part of my body I got
the MRI unquote, he said, goes on to say, quote
it was just an MRI. What part of the body.
It wasn't the brain because I took a cognitive test
and I aced it unquote.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
All right, I see UQ.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
How about you set it off like Queen Latifah think.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Zav he's such a child. Yeah, like in his mind,
you can get an A on your MRI. You understand
what I'm saying. Yeah, Like he speaks insuperlative all the time,
(06:06):
and everyone just ignores it, and he creates words like
this is such an exhausting person to have forced into
your life in a way that impacts you, Like I
wish he was just him and public but funny because
(06:32):
he didn't have a direct negative impact on our actual,
real lives, because that would be awesome him as just
as famous as he is now, like even him as
former president, if we still just had to have him
in our life and we got to watch all these
things that he does and says but they had zero
(06:53):
impact on us, it would be incredible television, sure, Except
he's one of the most important people on earth, and
the decisions that he makes affects billions of people, and
he's such he's in such cognitive and physical, mental and
(07:17):
medical decline, and it's obvious and no one cares except
with the former president. Even his own party forced him
to not run again because they didn't say they didn't
think he was fit. This guy, there's no such thing.
Not only will his own party never condemn him, but
Democrats seem to never do so. Either. You had a
(07:42):
perfect MRI, sir, but you don't know on what part
of your body like, that's such a ridiculous thing to
say out loud. I got all A's last car market.
What classes did you take? Q Ah, that's a tough one.
(08:03):
I'm not really sure which classes I took, but I
aced them. I got the best scores anyone's ever gotten.
Even if a seven year old said that, people would
be like, oh, okay, Billy, you got the best scores
anyone's ever gotten. But he speaks like this about everything
(08:25):
all the time, while also falling asleep in the middle
of live televised events. It's just a really, there's no floor,
there's no basement, there's no bottom, there's no baseline, there's
no standard, there's no shame, there's no nothing with this person.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Let me help, because the truth is, I don't know
if I ever had an MRI myself. I know if
I had one, I would remember what part of my
body was examined. So that's the part that's funny to me.
But to be fair, I do.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
You'd also not call me and say, hey, Q, I
just got an MRI. It was perfect. I got an Yeah,
that too. That is just ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
But watch this. I thought in my brain, like, aren't
MRIs for your brain, right, So I just googled it,
right now, what part of the body is seen in
an MRI, and it says the brain, spinal cord, and nerves,
as well as muscles, ligaments, and tendons are seen much
more clearly with an MRI than regular X rays. What
part of the body does the MMR I scan? MRI
(09:36):
is most frequently used to examine the brain in the
spinal cord. It's performed to help diagnose aneurysms of cerebral vessels,
conditions of the eye and inner ear. So for those
that might have been wondering, there's your response.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
But I want to.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Circle back to what you said about Joe Biden, because
I think there's something there. Man, You're right the whole
Like everybody was beating up on Joe Biden there at
the end, Democrats and of course Republicans, Republicans saying that
he was too old and unfit and all that sort
(10:12):
of stuff. But as old as he was, and as
much as as he lost in the way of like
like you could tell that he had aged and he
was in decline, but he was still doing the job.
He was still vastly more coherent and eloquent than Donald
(10:35):
Trump has ever been. And I wonder what Republican I
don't know that they go back and re examine, you know,
their treatment of Joe Biden.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
But I wonder maybe the rules don't apply when it's them.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, but you get where I'm going with that. With
that statement, I wonder if if it crosses their mind.
At least I know that they will ultimately dismiss it.
But I wonder if it crosses their mind that, hey man,
both of these guys were as near as makes no
difference eighty years old. Ross, let's say it one more time.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
It doesn't cross their minds ever, it doesn't. They never
think about it, They never consider it. You're right, it
didn't matter when it was Biden either. Yeah, but they
got another party to jump in line with them, so
they ran it. They ran the play and it worked.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
It's yeah, Well, the thing about him is that, uh
what we had a document or oh it's I think
it's in our share chat where it like quantifies the
lies that Donald Trump told in uh as his first
(11:52):
term present as during the first term of his presidency,
and there were thirty thousand confirm lies that he told
and so him talking about how smart he is relative
to people like Jasmine Crockett being low IQ, him talking
(12:12):
about the grades that he got in school, him talking about,
you know, passing these tests, and is you know he's
physically and mentally you know advanced. You know, it's I'm paraphrasing,
but that's effectually what he's trying to communicate to the
American people. I worry that, I mean, I guess you
(12:41):
put it bast Cue. It doesn't really make sense to
worry about it because thirty thousand lies was the first term.
Then he got re elected, right, so a lot of
the lying is not the issue.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
I mean, And there's no attempt to disguise the lies either,
Like he lies to us about things we can see, Yeah,
like his physical fitness, Like we.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Can see you, sir, what are you talking about? Yeah,
we can see, we can research, we can google. All
the things that you say out loud, he hasn't veiled
them in like some truth and then veils a lie
with that. No, just blatant lie. I had. The biggest
I did the most was the I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
No, it's all good, it's all good. Well then, I
guess for the story, we're just kind of just telling
you what happened? Because what more do you say about
a person who denies our reality? We then have to
fight to establish a shared reality that half of the
country supports him, at least in his denial of a
(13:46):
shared reality that we can see. And some of that
half of the country is just as delusional as him,
and they don't even see that shared reality. So having
a starting point for the conversation feels like a possible
feet So I share your frustration queue. So with that
in mind, let's just move on. Let's talk about this
(14:08):
father daughter dance in this Louisiana prison, right, I'll share
this story from bi in a heartwarming video captured the
Louisiana State penetr tentries first ever father daughter dance, where
prisoners reunited with their children for a night of dancing
inside the walls of the nation's largest maximum security prison
(14:30):
in Louisiana. How about that, okay. According to CBS News,
Leslie Harris recently reunited with his seventeen year old daughter
for the dance while he's serving a decade long sentence
for armed robbery. Harris reportedly wore a custom tuxedo and
held a bouquet of roses degree his daughter for this
special night. Video share on social media shows the two
embracing and dancing to Stevie Wonders, Isn't she lovely? That's
(14:54):
kind of cool. For those who don't know, Stevie Wonder
wrote that song about his daughter, so it's it's appropriate
for father daughter dance, all right. Moving on, Harris said
he cherished the Louisiana State Penitentiary's first ever father daughter
dance as he is expected to miss several of his
teen's major life moments, including prom and graduation.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Seeing her in address crying and running to me just
broke me down, unquote, Harris said in a phone interview.
Goes on to say, it made me think of all
the years I missed out on in her life. The
event is part of a growing trend of father daughter
dances inside US prisons, including one featured in last year's
Netflix documentary Daughters. Officials said they hoped to make the
(15:34):
dance a tradition at the notoriously tough lockup, which houses
more than sixty three hundred prisoners, including dozens on death row.
The dance was organized by God behind Bars, a group
that hosts reunification events in prisons nationwide. Assistant Warden Anne
Marie Eastley, said nearly thirty inmates were selected to participate
in the dance based on good behavior. The men practiced
(15:57):
a surprise line dance for weeks. Harris said his most
emotional moment came during their slow dance to Butterfly Kisses.
I like that song too. That's a country song, but
it's really pretty song. Before the night ended, Harris gave
his daughter a Bible with highlighted passages. Quote that's really
the heart of it unquote. Jake Bodine, the founder of
God Behind Bar said in the statement, goes on s
(16:19):
show these individuals who's counting on them, and once they
realize the waight of that, they will hold themselves accountable
for change.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Unquote.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Okay, you want to go first, Q, or you want
me to go first, I can go go ahead.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
You know, years ago, my older brother was being held
awaiting trial and there were no visiting hours and I
was in Michigan visiting my mom and I wouldn't be
back to see him before he went to trial. So
(16:57):
a family friend knew the county sheriff. The county sheriff
got me personally escorted in to see my brother and
in those conditions, it's rare that you get to see
someone light up. So I heard you describing this man
seeing his daughter and the duplicative nature of being so
(17:22):
happy to see her and her being so beautiful, and
you know, his daughter, I'm sure has grown up so
much since he's been away, and it's that, and then
there's but then after this dance, she goes back and
she only gets to see me in prison, And this moment,
(17:45):
as beautiful and lovely and heartwarming and emotional as it is,
it's both joy and pain simultaneously, because it was like,
when I've walked in there, he couldn't have expected a
visitor at all. It wasn't visit. You couldn't nobody could
have visitors on this day. And he shortn't expected to
be me because I didn't live in Michigan anymore. And
(18:09):
we couldn't hug, we couldn't embrace, we couldn't share a space,
you know, we had to talk through glass. But it
was really really good to see him, I know, it
was really really good for him to see me. And
all these years later, there's holidays, there's birthdays, there's celebrations.
I became a dad while he was inside. His baby
(18:32):
brother became a father while he was inside, and he
loves the niece and nephew that he's never met yet,
and they loved their uncle. So I just think all
I can think about is the duplicative nature of you're
feeling both emotions, but not one at a time, You're
feeling them at the same time. He's proud of his
baby brother for becoming a father. He loves his niece
(18:53):
and nephew. He thinks that they're so beautiful and so
smart and misses them and loves them but can't get
to them. And the same with his children. The same
with our mom as she's going through all of her
health issues. So I think about all these fathers that
don't get to be present, you know. I think about
where we who are present might fall short sometimes or
(19:17):
feel like we're not being super father or not checking
every box and not doing everything right. I have those
questions myself, and I can go to my babies anytime
I want, so I cannot imagine what that feeling is
like when you can't do that. And this prison someone
there was a human being, even if just for a
(19:38):
few hours on one day, someone was a human being.
And said, hey, these fathers matter to their daughters. No
matter what picture society has tried the pain of them.
They matter to their daughters, they matter to their family.
Let's let them do something nice. Let's let them have something,
because every day feels hopeless. Every day the world has
(20:00):
taken everything from them. Even for people who think they
deserve it because they're committed a crime. It's not always
that cut and dry, man, and we like to ignore
the nuance, We like to ignore the humanity. It's easy
to label people criminals because then you don't have to
toil with everything they go through every day. You get
to just tell yourself they did the crime, so they
(20:21):
deserve it. So this is a complicated story to me
because as much as it's heartfelt, well no heartfelt is
the description. It's just whether it's positive or negative depends
on who you're talking to and in what moment. It's
as amazing as that hug felt and seeing his beautiful
(20:41):
daughter in her dress and grown up. Imagine when she left.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
YEA. One of the things I learned, you know, working
in this space, you know, these past years with you,
is to see the humanity in prisons and to see
these people not just as folks who did crimes and
(21:08):
made mistakes. Make trust me, if somebody did some wrong
to me, somebody stole something, whatever, I would want them
to be punished. You know, their rules, all that sorts.
I recognize that, I'll see that entirely upfront, but I've
also learned to see how systems fail these individuals too.
(21:29):
A lot of the people that are imprisoned are historically
marginalized peoples in this country and overwhelmingly disproportionately poor. So
a lot of the crimes were crimes that presented an
opportunity for these people to advance their fiscal standing because
(21:49):
there was no real alternatives to that. Right in their
youth or whatever time of life. A lot of these
people were in desperate situations. A lot of these people
were probably greedy. They had enough, but they wanted more,
you know, all that sort of stuff. But you know,
you start understanding that not every story is just an
awful person that finally got caught. Some of these people
(22:11):
are people that they didn't want to choose the life
that they ended up living. That's just kind of the
best they could do with what they had, and then
they kind of lean more into it once they become institutionalized,
and obviously that limits their prospects for growing beyond those confines.
But that led me to interpreting the mission statement of
(22:38):
prisons in this country not as places people go to
be rehabilitated and to pay the debt to society, but
as something that is meant to capitalize off of these individuals.
We have for profit prison systems in this country, and
these people work while they're in prison, So it's an
(22:59):
evolution of slave labor, right the thirteenth Amendment allows for that.
And in this country we have so many people in
prisons relative to the population when compared to other countries
around the world. I was watching a story recently about
a man who it's called a whole life sentence in England,
(23:23):
in Great Britain or the UK. The UK is so
they call it whole life sentence, but basically it's a
life sentence.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
You're gonna be here for your whole life.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Over there, they have seventy people total serving whole life sentences.
Over here we have rather more. And even when you
adjust for like what is effectually effectively sorry a life sentence,
let's say twenty years plus. I think they have someone
in neighborhood of ten thousand, we have two hundred thousand
(23:54):
life sentences right, and so you can see how we're
failing our citizens.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
There
Broadcasting from the Civic Cipher Studios. Welcome to the QR Code,
where we share perspective, seek understanding, and shape outcomes. The
man you are about to hear from is a man
that rightfully so. He never lets me get too carried
away with the rainbows and the butterflies. Somebody's got to
keep these two feet of mine on the ground. He
is a qu in the QR code, goes by the
name of q Ward.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
The voice you just heard sincerely believes we can do
anything we can both his superpower and his delusion. He
is the R in the QR code. He goes by
the name ramses Jah.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
And we need to stick around a little Later on
in the show, we are going to ask each other
a question that I think you might want to hear
our answers to. We certainly don't know the answer yet. No,
I don't know what he was going to say. It
doesn't know what I'm gonna say. But does black privilege exist?
Which has been said about white privilege?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Does black privilege exist?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Anxious to hear your thoughts there, q Ward's clapback because racism.
Excited to hear your thoughts, they're c I'm sure our
listeners are as well. We're also going to be sharing
some opinions on a story that we came across father
daughter dance that took place in a Louisiana prison. We
(01:12):
got a chance to peak behind the scenes there and
just kind of see what that looked like. And of
course we have some critiques of the car solo system
around here, but it's kind of a combination of a
heartwarming story plus the failure of a society to keep
(01:35):
its promise to at least one group of its citizens.
So we're going to share our thoughts there. For culture,
we're going to be talking about Donald Trump's MRI. He
says his MRI was perfect, although he was not entirely
sure what part of his body was scanned. So yeah,
(01:56):
more of the same from the Trump administration. But right now,
we're going to start off with a feel good feature
as always, and today's feel good feature it's a little different,
a little bit of a departure.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
You know.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Right around now people are donating, you know, giving Tuesday,
all that sort of stuff. We're going to share from
the BI in something that you can do to feel good.
Maybe the story still needs a little bit more to it, but.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
We'll start here.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Relief efforts are continuing in Jamaica as the islands is
still reeling from Hurricane Melissa, and your support this giving
season could make a major impact. Last month, Hurricane Melissa
hammered Jamaica as a Category five storm, leaving the country
to confront one of the most severe humanitarian and public
health crises in modern history, inflicting and estimated six to
ten billion dollars in damage and affecting more than three
(02:45):
hundred and sixty thousand people. At least forty five people
have died, thirteen remain missing in tens of thousands are displaced.
The devastation has triggered further emergencies. Health officials have declared
leprotose sorry, lepto leptose pyrosis.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I think that's how I say that.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Outbreak reporting confirmed cases, suspected fatalities, and dozens more under
investigation of floodwaters contaminated drinking supplies. The risk of dengey
typhoid and tanatic tetanus SORRY is rising and already strained
clinics are struggling to reach isolated communities cut off by
washed out roads, and for Jamaican's on the ground, the
(03:27):
rebuilding process will require global support. There's a few names here,
but again this is all at biennews dot com if
you want to find out which one of these agencies
is most aligned with your.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Values.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
But a few to name that we have here Adventist
Development and Relief Agency, World Central Kitchen, Jamaica, Red Cross,
American Friends of Jamaica CORE, and there are several others.
Again bi in news dot com. I know the story
doesn't feel good, but if you want to make a difference,
that might help you feel good. So don't forget about
Jamaica again, bi innews dot com. All right, on to
(04:06):
what's going on in the culture. Trump says his MRI
was perfect. This again from the bin. President Donald Trump
has vowed to release the perfect results from the MRI
he received in October, while also claiming that he doesn't
know what part of his body was scanned. Trump made
the comments about his MRI while aboard Air Force One
as you returned to Washington from Florida on Sunday, November thirtieth.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
If you want to have it released, I'll release it, unquote,
the President told reporters, adding that his MRI results were perfect.
The White House has refused to specify why the MRI
was conducted during Trump's routine physical last month or what
prompted doctors to order the imaging. Officials have also not
disclosed which area of the president's body was examined. Press
Secretary Caroline Levitt previously described the MRI as advanced imaging
(04:54):
that occurred during Trump's annual physical, which was performed at
Walter Reed National Military Medical Center. Levitt claimed the results
showed that the president remains in quote exceptional physical health unquote,
but she declined to address any details about the scan itself.
On Sunday, Trump insisted that he didn't know which part
(05:15):
of his body the doctors had checked. Quote, I have
no idea on what part of my body I got
the MRI unquote, he said, goes on to say, quote
it was just an MRI. What part of the body.
It wasn't the brain because I took a cognitive test
and I aced it unquote.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
All right, I see UQ.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
How about you set it off like Queen Latifah think.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Zav he's such a child. Yeah, like in his mind,
you can get an A on your MRI. You understand
what I'm saying. Yeah, Like he speaks insuperlative all the time,
(06:06):
and everyone just ignores it, and he creates words like
this is such an exhausting person to have forced into
your life in a way that impacts you, Like I
wish he was just him and public but funny because
(06:32):
he didn't have a direct negative impact on our actual,
real lives, because that would be awesome him as just
as famous as he is now, like even him as
former president, if we still just had to have him
in our life and we got to watch all these
things that he does and says but they had zero
(06:53):
impact on us, it would be incredible television, sure, Except
he's one of the most important people on earth, and
the decisions that he makes affects billions of people, and
he's such he's in such cognitive and physical, mental and
(07:17):
medical decline, and it's obvious and no one cares except
with the former president. Even his own party forced him
to not run again because they didn't say they didn't
think he was fit. This guy, there's no such thing.
Not only will his own party never condemn him, but
Democrats seem to never do so. Either. You had a
(07:42):
perfect MRI, sir, but you don't know on what part
of your body like, that's such a ridiculous thing to
say out loud. I got all A's last car market.
What classes did you take? Q Ah, that's a tough one.
(08:03):
I'm not really sure which classes I took, but I
aced them. I got the best scores anyone's ever gotten.
Even if a seven year old said that, people would
be like, oh, okay, Billy, you got the best scores
anyone's ever gotten. But he speaks like this about everything
(08:25):
all the time, while also falling asleep in the middle
of live televised events. It's just a really, there's no floor,
there's no basement, there's no bottom, there's no baseline, there's
no standard, there's no shame, there's no nothing with this person.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Let me help, because the truth is, I don't know
if I ever had an MRI myself. I know if
I had one, I would remember what part of my
body was examined. So that's the part that's funny to me.
But to be fair, I do.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
You'd also not call me and say, hey, Q, I
just got an MRI. It was perfect. I got an Yeah,
that too. That is just ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
But watch this. I thought in my brain, like, aren't
MRIs for your brain, right, So I just googled it,
right now, what part of the body is seen in
an MRI, and it says the brain, spinal cord, and nerves,
as well as muscles, ligaments, and tendons are seen much
more clearly with an MRI than regular X rays. What
part of the body does the MMR I scan? MRI
(09:36):
is most frequently used to examine the brain in the
spinal cord. It's performed to help diagnose aneurysms of cerebral vessels,
conditions of the eye and inner ear. So for those
that might have been wondering, there's your response.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
But I want to.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Circle back to what you said about Joe Biden, because
I think there's something there. Man, You're right the whole
Like everybody was beating up on Joe Biden there at
the end, Democrats and of course Republicans, Republicans saying that
he was too old and unfit and all that sort
(10:12):
of stuff. But as old as he was, and as
much as as he lost in the way of like
like you could tell that he had aged and he
was in decline, but he was still doing the job.
He was still vastly more coherent and eloquent than Donald
(10:35):
Trump has ever been. And I wonder what Republican I
don't know that they go back and re examine, you know,
their treatment of Joe Biden.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
But I wonder maybe the rules don't apply when it's them.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, but you get where I'm going with that. With
that statement, I wonder if if it crosses their mind.
At least I know that they will ultimately dismiss it.
But I wonder if it crosses their mind that, hey man,
both of these guys were as near as makes no
difference eighty years old. Ross, let's say it one more time.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
It doesn't cross their minds ever, it doesn't. They never
think about it, They never consider it. You're right, it
didn't matter when it was Biden either. Yeah, but they
got another party to jump in line with them, so
they ran it. They ran the play and it worked.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
It's yeah, Well, the thing about him is that, uh
what we had a document or oh it's I think
it's in our share chat where it like quantifies the
lies that Donald Trump told in uh as his first
(11:52):
term present as during the first term of his presidency,
and there were thirty thousand confirm lies that he told
and so him talking about how smart he is relative
to people like Jasmine Crockett being low IQ, him talking
(12:12):
about the grades that he got in school, him talking about,
you know, passing these tests, and is you know he's
physically and mentally you know advanced. You know, it's I'm paraphrasing,
but that's effectually what he's trying to communicate to the
American people. I worry that, I mean, I guess you
(12:41):
put it bast Cue. It doesn't really make sense to
worry about it because thirty thousand lies was the first term.
Then he got re elected, right, so a lot of
the lying is not the issue.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
I mean, And there's no attempt to disguise the lies either,
Like he lies to us about things we can see, Yeah,
like his physical fitness, Like we.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Can see you, sir, what are you talking about? Yeah,
we can see, we can research, we can google. All
the things that you say out loud, he hasn't veiled
them in like some truth and then veils a lie
with that. No, just blatant lie. I had. The biggest
I did the most was the I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
No, it's all good, it's all good. Well then, I
guess for the story, we're just kind of just telling
you what happened? Because what more do you say about
a person who denies our reality? We then have to
fight to establish a shared reality that half of the
country supports him, at least in his denial of a
(13:46):
shared reality that we can see. And some of that
half of the country is just as delusional as him,
and they don't even see that shared reality. So having
a starting point for the conversation feels like a possible
feet So I share your frustration queue. So with that
in mind, let's just move on. Let's talk about this
(14:08):
father daughter dance in this Louisiana prison, right, I'll share
this story from bi in a heartwarming video captured the
Louisiana State penetr tentries first ever father daughter dance, where
prisoners reunited with their children for a night of dancing
inside the walls of the nation's largest maximum security prison
(14:30):
in Louisiana. How about that, okay. According to CBS News,
Leslie Harris recently reunited with his seventeen year old daughter
for the dance while he's serving a decade long sentence
for armed robbery. Harris reportedly wore a custom tuxedo and
held a bouquet of roses degree his daughter for this
special night. Video share on social media shows the two
embracing and dancing to Stevie Wonders, Isn't she lovely? That's
(14:54):
kind of cool. For those who don't know, Stevie Wonder
wrote that song about his daughter, so it's it's appropriate
for father daughter dance, all right. Moving on, Harris said
he cherished the Louisiana State Penitentiary's first ever father daughter
dance as he is expected to miss several of his
teen's major life moments, including prom and graduation.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Seeing her in address crying and running to me just
broke me down, unquote, Harris said in a phone interview.
Goes on to say, it made me think of all
the years I missed out on in her life. The
event is part of a growing trend of father daughter
dances inside US prisons, including one featured in last year's
Netflix documentary Daughters. Officials said they hoped to make the
(15:34):
dance a tradition at the notoriously tough lockup, which houses
more than sixty three hundred prisoners, including dozens on death row.
The dance was organized by God behind Bars, a group
that hosts reunification events in prisons nationwide. Assistant Warden Anne
Marie Eastley, said nearly thirty inmates were selected to participate
in the dance based on good behavior. The men practiced
(15:57):
a surprise line dance for weeks. Harris said his most
emotional moment came during their slow dance to Butterfly Kisses.
I like that song too. That's a country song, but
it's really pretty song. Before the night ended, Harris gave
his daughter a Bible with highlighted passages. Quote that's really
the heart of it unquote. Jake Bodine, the founder of
God Behind Bar said in the statement, goes on s
(16:19):
show these individuals who's counting on them, and once they
realize the waight of that, they will hold themselves accountable
for change.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Unquote.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Okay, you want to go first, Q, or you want
me to go first, I can go go ahead.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
You know, years ago, my older brother was being held
awaiting trial and there were no visiting hours and I
was in Michigan visiting my mom and I wouldn't be
back to see him before he went to trial. So
(16:57):
a family friend knew the county sheriff. The county sheriff
got me personally escorted in to see my brother and
in those conditions, it's rare that you get to see
someone light up. So I heard you describing this man
seeing his daughter and the duplicative nature of being so
(17:22):
happy to see her and her being so beautiful, and
you know, his daughter, I'm sure has grown up so
much since he's been away, and it's that, and then
there's but then after this dance, she goes back and
she only gets to see me in prison, And this moment,
(17:45):
as beautiful and lovely and heartwarming and emotional as it is,
it's both joy and pain simultaneously, because it was like,
when I've walked in there, he couldn't have expected a
visitor at all. It wasn't visit. You couldn't nobody could
have visitors on this day. And he shortn't expected to
be me because I didn't live in Michigan anymore. And
(18:09):
we couldn't hug, we couldn't embrace, we couldn't share a space,
you know, we had to talk through glass. But it
was really really good to see him, I know, it
was really really good for him to see me. And
all these years later, there's holidays, there's birthdays, there's celebrations.
I became a dad while he was inside. His baby
(18:32):
brother became a father while he was inside, and he
loves the niece and nephew that he's never met yet,
and they loved their uncle. So I just think all
I can think about is the duplicative nature of you're
feeling both emotions, but not one at a time, You're
feeling them at the same time. He's proud of his
baby brother for becoming a father. He loves his niece
(18:53):
and nephew. He thinks that they're so beautiful and so
smart and misses them and loves them but can't get
to them. And the same with his children. The same
with our mom as she's going through all of her
health issues. So I think about all these fathers that
don't get to be present, you know. I think about
where we who are present might fall short sometimes or
(19:17):
feel like we're not being super father or not checking
every box and not doing everything right. I have those
questions myself, and I can go to my babies anytime
I want, so I cannot imagine what that feeling is
like when you can't do that. And this prison someone
there was a human being, even if just for a
(19:38):
few hours on one day, someone was a human being.
And said, hey, these fathers matter to their daughters. No
matter what picture society has tried the pain of them.
They matter to their daughters, they matter to their family.
Let's let them do something nice. Let's let them have something,
because every day feels hopeless. Every day the world has
(20:00):
taken everything from them. Even for people who think they
deserve it because they're committed a crime. It's not always
that cut and dry, man, and we like to ignore
the nuance, We like to ignore the humanity. It's easy
to label people criminals because then you don't have to
toil with everything they go through every day. You get
to just tell yourself they did the crime, so they
(20:21):
deserve it. So this is a complicated story to me
because as much as it's heartfelt, well no heartfelt is
the description. It's just whether it's positive or negative depends
on who you're talking to and in what moment. It's
as amazing as that hug felt and seeing his beautiful
(20:41):
daughter in her dress and grown up. Imagine when she left.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
YEA. One of the things I learned, you know, working
in this space, you know, these past years with you,
is to see the humanity in prisons and to see
these people not just as folks who did crimes and
(21:08):
made mistakes. Make trust me, if somebody did some wrong
to me, somebody stole something, whatever, I would want them
to be punished. You know, their rules, all that sorts.
I recognize that, I'll see that entirely upfront, but I've
also learned to see how systems fail these individuals too.
(21:29):
A lot of the people that are imprisoned are historically
marginalized peoples in this country and overwhelmingly disproportionately poor. So
a lot of the crimes were crimes that presented an
opportunity for these people to advance their fiscal standing because
(21:49):
there was no real alternatives to that. Right in their
youth or whatever time of life. A lot of these
people were in desperate situations. A lot of these people
were probably greedy. They had enough, but they wanted more,
you know, all that sort of stuff. But you know,
you start understanding that not every story is just an
awful person that finally got caught. Some of these people
(22:11):
are people that they didn't want to choose the life
that they ended up living. That's just kind of the
best they could do with what they had, and then
they kind of lean more into it once they become institutionalized,
and obviously that limits their prospects for growing beyond those confines.
But that led me to interpreting the mission statement of
(22:38):
prisons in this country not as places people go to
be rehabilitated and to pay the debt to society, but
as something that is meant to capitalize off of these individuals.
We have for profit prison systems in this country, and
these people work while they're in prison, So it's an
(22:59):
evolution of slave labor, right the thirteenth Amendment allows for that.
And in this country we have so many people in
prisons relative to the population when compared to other countries
around the world. I was watching a story recently about
a man who it's called a whole life sentence in England,
(23:23):
in Great Britain or the UK. The UK is so
they call it whole life sentence, but basically it's a
life sentence.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
You're gonna be here for your whole life.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Over there, they have seventy people total serving whole life sentences.
Over here we have rather more. And even when you
adjust for like what is effectually effectively sorry a life sentence,
let's say twenty years plus. I think they have someone
in neighborhood of ten thousand, we have two hundred thousand
(23:54):
life sentences right, and so you can see how we're
failing our citizens.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
There
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