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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Still broadcasting from the Civic Cipher studios. This is the
QR code where we share perspective, seek understanding, and shape outcomes.
Man you are about to hear from is the only
man who can make an eighteen hour workday look easy
day after day.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
He is the que in the QR code. He goes
by the name of q Ward.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
You know what, rams is Jah. I don't know about
making it look easy. Well, you know what I mean,
but the mortgages do. On the first Amen and jo
Nice and nephew be hungry. They want snacks.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Ain't no secret extra snacks.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
They want the twenty fifty five snacks, the new snacks
that ain't came out yet. But you know, at the
end of those eighteen hour days, I get to work
with my brother and it's a much needed recharge. He
is the R in the QR code and he goes
by the name rams is Jah.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Stick around.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
We're going to be asking the question does love exist?
Really anxious to hear about that, But right now what
a question? Two words?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Clapback. Maga is a snake eating its own tail.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
You know what I wonder sometimes Rams, And I don't
know if I ever ask you in these terms, but
has MAGA like lost its basement. And there was a
movie that came out when I was very young called
The Golden Child. And there's a scene where there's no ground,
(01:20):
like there's just a dark abyss of nothingness forever, and
the main character, played by Eddie Murphy, flips a coin
because he thinks that he's imagining this.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I saw this scene.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yeah, and the coin never touches anything because there's no ground,
there's no basement. And we're talking about something today that
has confused me at times, frustrated me at times, anger
at me at times, but has now gotten me to
a point of fear. And that's not something that I
like to admit, but hear me out.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
How did a movement that once probably shouted louder than anyone,
Land of the Free, Home of the brave, and that
claim to love the Constitution and was the party of
law and order and morality shift to a movement with
literally no floor, no basement, no limit, no boundary, no
(02:17):
red line. How did the people that once said back
the blue and blue lives matter and we respect the
law become the people who say obey only one man
even if he breaks the law. How did the people
who once waive the Constitution at us like it was
scripture become the people cheering judges being ignored, and pardons
(02:43):
for criminals as long as they're loyal to their leader,
and unchecked violence in the streets like what happened in
normal politics. You support a candidate because of policy values.
Some would even say outcomes with Maggie, that seems to
(03:03):
be reversed. They don't support Trump because he shares their
politics or shares their identity. He is their identity. It's
like a psychological bond, tribal emotional. If you criticize him,
(03:28):
they defend it with the passion of you having criticized
them or attacking them person or something like you're not
even talking to them. I'll post or say something about him,
and then, unprovoked, I'll receive messages from people defending him,
as if I ever reached out to them to talk
(03:48):
about it in the first place. If he is punished,
they feel punished, if he loses as something they feel
less valuable. It's not even political. It's like fusion, and
once that identity fusion happens with Aramas and I have
(04:09):
once upon a time jokingly learned but now painfully learned
is that facts no longer matter, the truth no longer matters,
just loyalty to their leader. He is not a politician
to them, he is more like a totem. An anthropology,
a totem was an object that carried the entire identity
(04:31):
of a tribe. Think the ego, the cross, once upon
a time in this country, the flag. Except now it's
just that man. Singularly, he's a symbol of somehow dominance,
cultural revenge, grievance, nostalgia to a time where this country
(04:54):
was far less tolerant of everyone. He's the avatar of
every complaint and resentment that his movement harbors. And he
says to them that problem over there, I alone can
fix it, and they believe him, ramses, with no evidence
(05:15):
of him ever doing so. Actually, the contrary mountains of
evidence of him failing at trying to fix and repair
and build and be successful at things. So ask them
in private, yo, do you think he'd be lying? And
they'll tell you of course he does. But you know
(05:35):
he does it for us?
Speaker 2 (05:38):
What like?
Speaker 3 (05:40):
That's it. His oath isn't to truth, it's more to combat.
He doesn't need to be virtuous he just needs to
win right victory over virtue. He is not the pastor.
He is what they view as their sword. So when
(06:02):
he says ignore federal judges, they cheer. When he makes
fun of people that are less fortunate or disabled, they
laugh when he says beat them up. They actually act
on it. When he says, the Constitution allows me to
do whatever I want, they nod as if that's true.
Because it was never about the Constitution. It's about dominance,
(06:27):
law and order. Pardon the people who broke the law
for me, Blue lives matter, but try to unlive the
Capitol police Christian values. But cruelty is the point. We
call it hypocrisy. For them, that's a consistency. It's consistent hypocrisy,
(06:49):
so it somehow works for them. No logic involved except psychologic.
I don't think psychologic is a word, but you know,
I know. And the pun the question that I always
ask is how long can they go? Because here's the reality.
There is no basement. There never was. The guardrails we
(07:13):
all thought existed immediately went away. That identity became fused
in their brains and they will do anything to protect it.
So when reality conflicts with that identity. Rejecting the truth
is easier than admitting I was wrong or I was deceived,
or that I chose cruelty, or that I helped break
(07:35):
and destroy democracy, So instead they deny it all. Trump
did not invent these people. He just made them proud
to be who they were, And now they say the
quiet part out loud. He promised them your cultural power
will never be challenged again, and now he's trying to
(07:58):
deliver on that promise.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Well, you're not wrong, and I appreciate you laying out
the enormity of the work that we have to do
to get these people back from where they are.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I don't know how.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Possible it is, but I choose to believe that it
is possible because I love them. So does love exist?
I know, I see your face. I know, I know, dude,
it's radio man. I have to make a transition. Okay,
does love exist? Do you want to go first? I'm
sure you got more to say.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
No, here we go. See all right, I guess I'm
going first.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Okay, I got I got plenty to say, but that
I can't seguef off of that.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
I love them, go qu.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah. Well okay, then.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I believe that there are different types of love, and
I'm not the first person to say this.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I think that most of us.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Understand and appreciate the love that a mother has for
a child, or a child for a mother, you know,
familial bonds, those sorts of things we call that love.
I think that that matters, you know, that can extend
to you know, people have pets. I'm not a pet person,
but I know people they will weep. I remember my
(09:42):
friend Kevin when he was little. He had dogs his
whole life, but whenever his dogs would die, he would
just weep inconsolably, blutleg care for those that listen to
his show, and my heart was broken for him, you know,
so I know he loved those dogs.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Let's see, what are the kind of love.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Of course, romantic love, that's the thing that most people
think of when they think of whether or not love exists.
And then what I said, which was, you know, like
love in the general sense where you know what I'm saying,
I still love maga where you generally regard.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Other people with a base level.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
I don't know, you you allow them their humanity, you
you you build in some some pockets into the equation
where okay, if they deviate, if they go in this direction, whatever,
you can allow for them to get lost in the sauce.
And so there's different types of love, you know, as
(10:53):
we define it love. I think it's been proven that
love is simply a chemical reaction in the brain. I
think that's a bit scientific. Love is a function of
familiarity over time, where if someone wasn't in your life anymore,
you would miss them. You would you've come to be
become familiar with their presence, and then if they weren't
(11:14):
there anymore, you'd miss them. So that is less scientific,
but it certainly isn't like the romantic idea of love
or the like. It's it's not very poetic way of
describing it. But in terms of like that magical word love,
does that exist, I'm gonna say.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I choose.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
To believe that it does without evidence beyond the science,
the scientific explanations that I've given. I'm going to say that,
and now you know this, Que, that I choose to
believe that love exists. You know, I like the idea
of butterflies. I told you something the other day, Que,
when we're at that fashion. I said, we were coming
(12:01):
home from there and I was like, hey, man, you
want to hear something so cool. I'm like so in
love with my son. Man, he's like my friend. And
you were like, that's dope, and I was like, isn't it.
It's dope, Like I'm just when he leaves, I'm like,
I don't have anybody to hang out with. And when
he comes, I'm like so excited when he's coming back,
you know. So I don't want to imagine that that
(12:26):
feeling that I'm feeling is simply a function of you know,
chemical reactions. And you know, I'm accustomed to seeing him
like I'm accustomed to seeing a painting on the wall,
you know what I mean, like his presence and my
involvement in the development of this human being, and not
just because he's a child growing, but everyone is always
continually developing and growing as individuals. They could be one
(12:49):
hundred years old, they're still growing and still learning and
still developing. To have some influence on that and to
bear witness to that, I think is I'm going to
choose to call that magical. I know that magic's not real,
but I'm choosing to call it magical because the world
is better for me with magic in it. And similarly,
(13:11):
the world is better for me with love in it.
And you know, there are different types of love. Again,
as I mentioned, there's you know, i'd protect my children,
my family. I would protect you Q and your family
and you know, the people that know know with my life.
I would be proud to do so. It would be
(13:32):
a point of pride to protect you with my life.
You know, I don't want to call that anything other
than love. I just don't want to. So does love exist? Well,
for Ramses it exists maybe to a lesser degree for
the people that his identity is rooted in the demise
of me and my people.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
But I don't see me.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Living like they live, where hate is redefined and normalized.
There's no hate in my heart, nor will there ever
be hate in my heart. So yeah, does love exist?
I don't know, But I'm gonna choose love. So that's
what I got your thoughts.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
I think what you describe regarding maga is more like
Stockholm syndrome, So we'll look into that.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
That might be something that.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
We need to talk to someone about. Hey, these people
who are actively killing me and oppressing me and going
out of their way to be cruel to me, I
love you. Sure, you know we can revisit that. At
another time, you talk about different types of love, and
you mentioned the word science. Scientifically, love is not any emotion, right.
(14:42):
Emotions are fleeting, typically reactive. You know, somebody does something
toil you, it makes you mad. That's an emotional response
to something, and those emotions are typically short lived. Love
is closer to like or even an addiction. Scientifically, it's
(15:06):
more of a motivational state like think of like hunger thirst.
Love kind of fits there better than it does emotion Scientifically,
it's not how you feel. Everything you just described is
more like what you're compelled to do. I would defend
Q and my family and my loved ones with my
(15:28):
life because I love them. So it's more of an
action thing that compels you than an emotion. You think
about romantic love. I my mind goes to pain and heartbreak,
that singular core text that your dorsal interior, that the
way that it affects your brain, it's like it actually hurts.
(15:52):
Painkillers like advil can help with heartbreak literally, So you know,
there's so many different levels Neurologically, again, love is more
similar to an addiction. That's driven by your minds and
your bodies need to be rewarded for something or like
(16:14):
our bonding systems. So love is designed to motivate pursuit, attachment, survival,
and procreation because our brains don't care about romance, right,
It's a biochemical survival strategy, the same reward circuitry that
(16:34):
people that use opioids. They go back to it for
that thing that it does to their body and to
their brain. It's a bond, it's an addiction. So that's
why love feels so euphoric and sometimes obsessive and irrational,
being a keute word, and heartbreak hurts because it's like withdrawal.
(16:56):
Love is not an emotion, it's it's like biology's way
of keeping us together long enough to make a family.
And you touched on that before. We weren't talking about love,
but it just clicked to me right.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Now, I did say that.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Yeah, biology keeps us together through love long enough to
build families and communities. That's that's its purpose. That's why
it doesn't last.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Forever, last seven years.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
So yeah, so like love, the idea of it, you know, sure,
but you can only really be certain of your love
for someone else, you know, who and what you love.
You have to believe everyone and everything else that says
it loves you, So knowing versus belief becomes an entirely
(17:44):
different question that maybe we can have on another show.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
I'd love to do that, man, that would be a
really cool conversation have, because I think fleshing out that
biology would certainly help provide a little bit more context.
And that's going to do it for us here at
the QR Code. Today's show was produced by Chris Thompson.
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(18:10):
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(18:33):
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Speaker 3 (18:49):
I am just as easy to find. I am qward
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Join us next time as we share our news with
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code
Still broadcasting from the Civic Cipher studios. This is the
QR code where we share perspective, seek understanding, and shape outcomes.
Man you are about to hear from is the only
man who can make an eighteen hour workday look easy
day after day.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
He is the que in the QR code. He goes
by the name of q Ward.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
You know what, rams is Jah. I don't know about
making it look easy. Well, you know what I mean,
but the mortgages do. On the first Amen and jo
Nice and nephew be hungry. They want snacks.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Ain't no secret extra snacks.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
They want the twenty fifty five snacks, the new snacks
that ain't came out yet. But you know, at the
end of those eighteen hour days, I get to work
with my brother and it's a much needed recharge. He
is the R in the QR code and he goes
by the name rams is Jah.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Stick around.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
We're going to be asking the question does love exist?
Really anxious to hear about that, But right now what
a question? Two words?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Clapback. Maga is a snake eating its own tail.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
You know what I wonder sometimes Rams, And I don't
know if I ever ask you in these terms, but
has MAGA like lost its basement. And there was a
movie that came out when I was very young called
The Golden Child. And there's a scene where there's no ground,
(01:20):
like there's just a dark abyss of nothingness forever, and
the main character, played by Eddie Murphy, flips a coin
because he thinks that he's imagining this.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I saw this scene.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yeah, and the coin never touches anything because there's no ground,
there's no basement. And we're talking about something today that
has confused me at times, frustrated me at times, anger
at me at times, but has now gotten me to
a point of fear. And that's not something that I
like to admit, but hear me out.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
How did a movement that once probably shouted louder than anyone,
Land of the Free, Home of the brave, and that
claim to love the Constitution and was the party of
law and order and morality shift to a movement with
literally no floor, no basement, no limit, no boundary, no
(02:17):
red line. How did the people that once said back
the blue and blue lives matter and we respect the
law become the people who say obey only one man
even if he breaks the law. How did the people
who once waive the Constitution at us like it was
scripture become the people cheering judges being ignored, and pardons
(02:43):
for criminals as long as they're loyal to their leader,
and unchecked violence in the streets like what happened in
normal politics. You support a candidate because of policy values.
Some would even say outcomes with Maggie, that seems to
(03:03):
be reversed. They don't support Trump because he shares their
politics or shares their identity. He is their identity. It's
like a psychological bond, tribal emotional. If you criticize him,
(03:28):
they defend it with the passion of you having criticized
them or attacking them person or something like you're not
even talking to them. I'll post or say something about him,
and then, unprovoked, I'll receive messages from people defending him,
as if I ever reached out to them to talk
(03:48):
about it in the first place. If he is punished,
they feel punished, if he loses as something they feel
less valuable. It's not even political. It's like fusion, and
once that identity fusion happens with Aramas and I have
(04:09):
once upon a time jokingly learned but now painfully learned
is that facts no longer matter, the truth no longer matters,
just loyalty to their leader. He is not a politician
to them, he is more like a totem. An anthropology,
a totem was an object that carried the entire identity
(04:31):
of a tribe. Think the ego, the cross, once upon
a time in this country, the flag. Except now it's
just that man. Singularly, he's a symbol of somehow dominance,
cultural revenge, grievance, nostalgia to a time where this country
(04:54):
was far less tolerant of everyone. He's the avatar of
every complaint and resentment that his movement harbors. And he
says to them that problem over there, I alone can
fix it, and they believe him, ramses, with no evidence
(05:15):
of him ever doing so. Actually, the contrary mountains of
evidence of him failing at trying to fix and repair
and build and be successful at things. So ask them
in private, yo, do you think he'd be lying? And
they'll tell you of course he does. But you know
(05:35):
he does it for us?
Speaker 2 (05:38):
What like?
Speaker 3 (05:40):
That's it. His oath isn't to truth, it's more to combat.
He doesn't need to be virtuous he just needs to
win right victory over virtue. He is not the pastor.
He is what they view as their sword. So when
(06:02):
he says ignore federal judges, they cheer. When he makes
fun of people that are less fortunate or disabled, they
laugh when he says beat them up. They actually act
on it. When he says, the Constitution allows me to
do whatever I want, they nod as if that's true.
Because it was never about the Constitution. It's about dominance,
(06:27):
law and order. Pardon the people who broke the law
for me, Blue lives matter, but try to unlive the
Capitol police Christian values. But cruelty is the point. We
call it hypocrisy. For them, that's a consistency. It's consistent hypocrisy,
(06:49):
so it somehow works for them. No logic involved except psychologic.
I don't think psychologic is a word, but you know,
I know. And the pun the question that I always
ask is how long can they go? Because here's the reality.
There is no basement. There never was. The guardrails we
(07:13):
all thought existed immediately went away. That identity became fused
in their brains and they will do anything to protect it.
So when reality conflicts with that identity. Rejecting the truth
is easier than admitting I was wrong or I was deceived,
or that I chose cruelty, or that I helped break
(07:35):
and destroy democracy, So instead they deny it all. Trump
did not invent these people. He just made them proud
to be who they were, And now they say the
quiet part out loud. He promised them your cultural power
will never be challenged again, and now he's trying to
(07:58):
deliver on that promise.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Well, you're not wrong, and I appreciate you laying out
the enormity of the work that we have to do
to get these people back from where they are.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I don't know how.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Possible it is, but I choose to believe that it
is possible because I love them. So does love exist?
I know, I see your face. I know, I know, dude,
it's radio man. I have to make a transition. Okay,
does love exist? Do you want to go first? I'm
sure you got more to say.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
No, here we go. See all right, I guess I'm
going first.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Okay, I got I got plenty to say, but that
I can't seguef off of that.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
I love them, go qu.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah. Well okay, then.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I believe that there are different types of love, and
I'm not the first person to say this.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I think that most of us.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Understand and appreciate the love that a mother has for
a child, or a child for a mother, you know,
familial bonds, those sorts of things we call that love.
I think that that matters, you know, that can extend
to you know, people have pets. I'm not a pet person,
but I know people they will weep. I remember my
(09:42):
friend Kevin when he was little. He had dogs his
whole life, but whenever his dogs would die, he would
just weep inconsolably, blutleg care for those that listen to
his show, and my heart was broken for him, you know,
so I know he loved those dogs.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Let's see, what are the kind of love.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Of course, romantic love, that's the thing that most people
think of when they think of whether or not love exists.
And then what I said, which was, you know, like
love in the general sense where you know what I'm saying,
I still love maga where you generally regard.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Other people with a base level.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
I don't know, you you allow them their humanity, you
you you build in some some pockets into the equation
where okay, if they deviate, if they go in this direction, whatever,
you can allow for them to get lost in the sauce.
And so there's different types of love, you know, as
(10:53):
we define it love. I think it's been proven that
love is simply a chemical reaction in the brain. I
think that's a bit scientific. Love is a function of
familiarity over time, where if someone wasn't in your life anymore,
you would miss them. You would you've come to be
become familiar with their presence, and then if they weren't
(11:14):
there anymore, you'd miss them. So that is less scientific,
but it certainly isn't like the romantic idea of love
or the like. It's it's not very poetic way of
describing it. But in terms of like that magical word love,
does that exist, I'm gonna say.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I choose.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
To believe that it does without evidence beyond the science,
the scientific explanations that I've given. I'm going to say that,
and now you know this, Que, that I choose to
believe that love exists. You know, I like the idea
of butterflies. I told you something the other day, Que,
when we're at that fashion. I said, we were coming
(12:01):
home from there and I was like, hey, man, you
want to hear something so cool. I'm like so in
love with my son. Man, he's like my friend. And
you were like, that's dope, and I was like, isn't it.
It's dope, Like I'm just when he leaves, I'm like,
I don't have anybody to hang out with. And when
he comes, I'm like so excited when he's coming back,
you know. So I don't want to imagine that that
(12:26):
feeling that I'm feeling is simply a function of you know,
chemical reactions. And you know, I'm accustomed to seeing him
like I'm accustomed to seeing a painting on the wall,
you know what I mean, like his presence and my
involvement in the development of this human being, and not
just because he's a child growing, but everyone is always
continually developing and growing as individuals. They could be one
(12:49):
hundred years old, they're still growing and still learning and
still developing. To have some influence on that and to
bear witness to that, I think is I'm going to
choose to call that magical. I know that magic's not real,
but I'm choosing to call it magical because the world
is better for me with magic in it. And similarly,
(13:11):
the world is better for me with love in it.
And you know, there are different types of love. Again,
as I mentioned, there's you know, i'd protect my children,
my family. I would protect you Q and your family
and you know, the people that know know with my life.
I would be proud to do so. It would be
(13:32):
a point of pride to protect you with my life.
You know, I don't want to call that anything other
than love. I just don't want to. So does love exist? Well,
for Ramses it exists maybe to a lesser degree for
the people that his identity is rooted in the demise
of me and my people.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
But I don't see me.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Living like they live, where hate is redefined and normalized.
There's no hate in my heart, nor will there ever
be hate in my heart. So yeah, does love exist?
I don't know, But I'm gonna choose love. So that's
what I got your thoughts.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
I think what you describe regarding maga is more like
Stockholm syndrome, So we'll look into that.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
That might be something that.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
We need to talk to someone about. Hey, these people
who are actively killing me and oppressing me and going
out of their way to be cruel to me, I
love you. Sure, you know we can revisit that. At
another time, you talk about different types of love, and
you mentioned the word science. Scientifically, love is not any emotion, right.
(14:42):
Emotions are fleeting, typically reactive. You know, somebody does something
toil you, it makes you mad. That's an emotional response
to something, and those emotions are typically short lived. Love
is closer to like or even an addiction. Scientifically, it's
(15:06):
more of a motivational state like think of like hunger thirst.
Love kind of fits there better than it does emotion Scientifically,
it's not how you feel. Everything you just described is
more like what you're compelled to do. I would defend
Q and my family and my loved ones with my
(15:28):
life because I love them. So it's more of an
action thing that compels you than an emotion. You think
about romantic love. I my mind goes to pain and heartbreak,
that singular core text that your dorsal interior, that the
way that it affects your brain, it's like it actually hurts.
(15:52):
Painkillers like advil can help with heartbreak literally, So you know,
there's so many different levels Neurologically, again, love is more
similar to an addiction. That's driven by your minds and
your bodies need to be rewarded for something or like
(16:14):
our bonding systems. So love is designed to motivate pursuit, attachment, survival,
and procreation because our brains don't care about romance, right,
It's a biochemical survival strategy, the same reward circuitry that
(16:34):
people that use opioids. They go back to it for
that thing that it does to their body and to
their brain. It's a bond, it's an addiction. So that's
why love feels so euphoric and sometimes obsessive and irrational,
being a keute word, and heartbreak hurts because it's like withdrawal.
(16:56):
Love is not an emotion, it's it's like biology's way
of keeping us together long enough to make a family.
And you touched on that before. We weren't talking about love,
but it just clicked to me right.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Now, I did say that.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Yeah, biology keeps us together through love long enough to
build families and communities. That's that's its purpose. That's why
it doesn't last.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Forever, last seven years.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
So yeah, so like love, the idea of it, you know, sure,
but you can only really be certain of your love
for someone else, you know, who and what you love.
You have to believe everyone and everything else that says
it loves you, So knowing versus belief becomes an entirely
(17:44):
different question that maybe we can have on another show.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
I'd love to do that, man, that would be a
really cool conversation have, because I think fleshing out that
biology would certainly help provide a little bit more context.
And that's going to do it for us here at
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(18:33):
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