November 18, 2025 • 28 mins
Texas A&M: Trooper Who Pointed at Players Reassigned
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Still broadcasting from the Civic Cipher studios. This is the
QR code where we share perspective, seek understanding, and shape
out times. The man you are about to hear from
is a man who never answers his phone no, but
he always texts me. He's the Q in the QR code.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
He goes by the name of Q or the voice
you just heard could just text me, but he refuses.
I gotta talk to you the R in the QR code,
and he goes by the name Ramses job stick around.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
We still got to talk about the Texas A and
M football game where the trooper seemed to be very
upset with the players and kind of cradded a little
viral incident. We're also gonna have some dialogue on whether
or not Q believes in fate. Maybe I believe in fate.
We'll see. But right now it's time for q Ward's
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clapback as he talks to us. How about how the
system protects power, not people.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Q Floor's yours today's truth might make some of our
listeners uncomfortable. Rams, I think people just because of our
polarizing position, and polarizing just simply mean we are all
the way to one direction on how we feel. Might
get the impression that we are partisan, folks. No, we
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are nonpartisan. We are for the people. And it just
so happens that most of the time one party isn't
going out of their way for the people. The other
party is acting and the direct disinterest of the people.
So that's where we end up falling. But this is
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not about left or right. This is not about red
or blue. This is not even about Biden or Trump.
It is about a system that has mastered the art
of protecting power no matter who holds it. So for years,
the public has demanded transparency around Jeffrey Epstein, his network,
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his so called client list, and a lot of the
people that were harmed by him and who helped him
cause harm. And lately a lot of pundits have been
taking the lazy position of, well, why didn't Biden just
release it? He had it all that time. Well let's
talk about it, because the truth says more about our
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justice system than it does about either president. First things first,
there was never a single secret master document client list
sitting in some drawer locked away in the Oval office.
There are, as you guys have probably learned, thousands of
pages of evidence, testimony, and sealed records, not one tidy
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spreadsheet that says list and here are all the names.
Julie k, a journalist, originally broke the Epstein story, and
she said it best. There is no Epstein client list period.
The reasons those records weren't just dumped online is simple.
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There was an ongoing investigation during the Biden administration. Federal
prosecutors were still building cases tied to Epstein's network. Grand
jury materials, sealed victim identities protected by law. That's not
a cover up. That's called due process. I know we
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don't believe in that anymore, but that used to be
a thing in this country. But here's why the system
reveals itself and why these processes have a way of
protecting powerful people. This legal framework that was meant to
preserve fairness can be weaponized to preserve privilege. The same
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thing that we've seen with a lot of civil rights legislation.
The government can't just dump sealed evidence into public record,
not without jeopardizing open cases, but ramses who benefits most
from that rule, rich connected people, not those who can't
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afford bail, who are sitting in prison, who are sitting
in jail or being hailed until they can find a lawyer.
But those who are connected with lawyers who have them
out in an instant and know how to stall what
we would call justice. That kind of loophole existed for
Epstein for years. That loophole exists for really every billionaire,
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every banker, and as we've noticed, every politician who has
been caught in that orbit. So, yeah, Biden didn't release
the files, but no president could have without violating the law.
Only this president now seems to have a blatant disregard
for that and that law, the one we all think
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is protecting justice, is actually protecting people or to manipulate it.
So this is not about the prior administration's silence. It's
about decades of by partisan complicity. Republicans protected Epstein's plea deal,
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Democrats playing polite politics avoided pushing too hard for transparency.
The courts seal the evidence, the media sensationalized the rumors,
and then moved on. Everyone had a reason to justifiably
look away because the deeper you dig into Epstein's network,
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the more powerful names you find, And it does not
matter which side of the aisle those names sit on.
That is not political ideaology. That is power infrastructure. The
people who suffered the most you guessed it, survivors, and
they deserve closure and justice. The people deserve the truth,
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but truth threatens power, and power protects itself. So instead
of justice, we get fragments, redacted pages, half sealed transcripts, distractions,
a list that doesn't exist. Meanwhile, a man who trafficked
human beings to the elite dies in federal custody under
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some very mysterious circumstances, and we're expected to just move on.
We've seen this movie before, folks, Watergate, Iron Contra, Enron,
the Panama Papers, different plot, same ending. The rich right
the rules, the powerful, rewrite history, and the rest of
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us kind of wait for answers that never come. The
Epstein files are not a partisan scandal. They're a mirror
showing us how the justice system always bends to power always.
If we ever want to change that, it will not
come from politicians, I'm sorry. It'll come from people who
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stop letting partisanship bind them to the same patterns. It'll
come from voters who demand accountability. Because justice only applies
to the powerless in this system. For those in power,
impunity so no, Biden didn't hide the Epstein list. The
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system did. And until we figure out a way to
rebuild a system that actually serves the people, every administration,
red and blue will keep protecting the same thing power.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
So weird to have it laid out like that, because
it just I think it well, maybe we're not the
right way to describe it, but it makes you feel
kind of powerless, and you can see how corrupt and
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really disgusting some of these people's proclivities are, and you
know that feeling of like what can I do about it,
especially when they're so protected by like half the country.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I mean, it's important before we move on that you
said that part out loud, Ramses, because you know that's
how your brother feels now, like hopeless, and that's kind
of what they're counting on for us to just be
exhausted and throw our hands up and you know what
can we do? And it's how we also land on
these false equivalencies. Both parties are bad, so it doesn't
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matter yes and no. Right, as Ramses has said, you know,
to to myself and to listeners over and over again,
we can agree that neither party is going out of
its way to help us. Yeah, but we also can
agree that one party is going out of its way
to harm us. We should we should decide accordingly, at
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least until we figure out something else. All right, You
do you believe in fate? Mm hmmm mmmm.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
All right done?
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Uh yeah, I get it. Give me more expound please,
I mean that's what we got.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Do you believe in fate?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I mean straightforwardly, No, I don't bee fate. I don't
believe in karma because I'm alive. Yeah. I've seen awful
people be the most successful and powerful people in the
history of Earth. All right, Amazing people suffer the most difficult, painful,
and uncomfortable lives, and an effort to comfort those people
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when things go wrong for those who don't deserve wrong,
people that care about them and who don't want them
to slip into depression and anger or despair, say, hey, man,
everything happens for a reason, and that gives you some
some purpose. There's something greater than me that allowed or
caused this thing to happen. That's going to eventually work
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out in my favor. I think it's how you're supposed
to feel. When the truth is a lot of stuff
be super random, it didn't have no reason at all.
It ain't gonna lead to some greater outcome later. You're
gonna be late from work because you stuffed your toe
and you got out the door a little late. That
light caught you. You're stuck in traffic. When you get there,
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you and your road up and that's the whole thing.
That's the end of the story. You got rolled up,
and it's not going to lead to some more wonderful
thing later. And if that does, that's random too. Just
my position that everything is pre planned, Then what of
our autonomy? And then what are we doing every day?
What are the decisions that we make? Mean if no
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matter what, we're going to end at the same destination.
So I think it removes accountability for decisions. It takes
away the idea of autonomy. It kind of treats us
like children. Don't ever be sad or upset about anything
because it could always be worse and everything happens for
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a reason. I think that's the point of that type
of rhetoric. Yeah, something that I could fully subscribe to.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
So how about this, I don't know if they're the
same thing, fate and luck. Fate would be like predetermined
luck would be just like fortuitous events taking place with
no like intelligence or intentionality behind it, right. I think
that's probably the right way to explain the two. I
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think that I believe less in fate and more in luck.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Kind of subscribe to luck, rams yeah, yeah, yeah, because
I think it's the same thing. I think luck some
random thing, but the outcome is good. You got lucky.
I think that's kind of what people mean when they
say it. You're not good at that, you just got lucky.
So yeah, it's it's kind of antithetical to fate, no luck,
it's something good made a mistake and happened to you
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that day. So yeah, I subscribe to what you're saying now,
but I've forgive okay.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
So I think that I believe in luck in a
real world sense, and I think I believe in fate less.
So I think I like the eye idea of fate
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in a romantic sense, not romantic like boy meets Girl,
boy Loves Girl, but in the romantic sense of the
word like, like I like the idea of being able
to say, you know what, we were on a path
and we didn't know it, and we got where we're going,
and we looked around one day and we were like,
oh my gosh, we're here. This must have been the
plan the whole time. I kind of like the idea that,
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But do I believe that it really sincerely happened? No,
So I like again, I think, I like the romanticized
story that I get to tell myself. I like I
think the comfort of knowing that maybe there is some
intelligent factor in the story involved in the story somehow,
and there was some design, some intelligent design, and the.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Steps were ordered to a degree.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
But whether or not it feels like that in the
day to day, whether or not it feels like that,
it's like sincerely in my heart when I break it down,
like logically, linearly, I say that I really feel that way.
I just think that I like the again, the romanticized
idea of the word fate. But the truth is that
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for me, you and I've had this conversation before. I
feel very lucky that certain things happened along the way
in my life. I, for instance, you and I have
gone back and forth on this one. But regardless, I
didn't end up growing up and becoming the worst version
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of myself. I don't believe. I don't believe that this
is the worst version of what I could have been
given the circumstances of my birth, being born in the
eighties and Compton, California. Like, there's a lot of things
that could have happened that I could imagine would have
been very worse for me. And the outcomes of my
life and the version of life that I live right now,
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I believe they're the result of again fortuitous events along
the way, and luck is probably a good way to
describe that. Of course, hard work comes into it, but
I think a lot of people work hard, they're maybe
just not as lucky. Some people work less hard and
they're super lucky and they you know whatever. Right, But
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whether or not fate exists, like really sincerely, I think
I'm with you in that it's kind of hard to
just say things were faded. Another thing, too, I think
that that happens a lot, is that people indeed use
fate to describe a romantic partner like an actual like
boy meets girl type of situation. And I don't know
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if that's true either, But again, I really do appreciate.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
The even stronger disbelief in that, right, right, But I
get a billion people on the planet. Yeah, they had
one for me at the mall in the same city. Yeah, no,
I get it. Yeah, but I made every decision right
to end up here at the same time as you today, sweetie.
Oh my god, even subbing your tempeness. This must be fate, right,
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it's But bear with me.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
There's something to be said about the warm fuzzies that
you get when you get lost in the fantasy in
the What if this is actually true? What if this
is fate? What if this was in the stars? I
think there's something there. And I think that humans we
love to tell ourselves a good story. I read a report.
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I might have still been in college when I read
this port but it's said that human beings have a
predisposition toward faith belief, and this is why we are
an aspirational species and the belief. A lot of people
fill that in with religion, but I think that fate
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or belief in fate, also checks that box. We believe
in something greater than ourselves. We believe in a promise
of a better tomorrow. Indeed, we work for it, will
plant trees that will never be able to sit in
the shade of We are species that does that and
that's not something we can say about other species, and
that's something that it may or may not be unique
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to us. We can't know that across the board, but
I think that it's something that without it, we would
not be the species that we are. And so I
think that having a little bit of room, or at
least the romantic idea of fate is not the worst
thing in the world. But whether or not I like
live and die by fail Like I don't read a
horoscope or anything like that, I don't think you do either.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
I think there's some trouble in the romanticization of fate.
But that's a longer conversation than we have time to have.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
All right, we'll circle back, but right now it's time
to get to entertainment. So Texas A and M trooper
who pointed at players has been reassigned. All right, I
saw this video. You know, I'm really anxious to hear
what it is, or I should say excited to hear
your thoughts on it. Q with all sports related stuff, right,
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but I didn't like this video. I'm gonna say it, man,
I'm gonna say it.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
You're gonna like it even less. After I described all
of what happened, you're gonna like it even less.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Okay, okay, I'll wait, But I didn't like this video.
And here's why. The players that ran into the tunnel,
because for folks haven't seen the tunnel. Some football players
ran into a tunnel. And then when they ran out
of the tunnel, there was a police officer and he
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like shoulder checked the players and then he turned around
and like pointed and yelled at them. Right, So that's it.
That's the whole video. And the players were black and
the police officer was white, and it just it just
is it's troubling to see it happen. I don't know
what they were talking about. Don't know the first thing
about this stuff. Couldn't tell you. The video was two
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seconds long, right, but it just looked super icky. All So,
I'm going to read this for the first time because
Q sent this to me. He said that this was
the right one first use for today's show. So this
comes from ESPN, and you'll know what I know, and
then we'll hear from Q all right again at ESPN.
Texas A and M said. A state trooper who made
contact with South Carolina players during Saturday's game has been
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relieved of his game day duties. After receiver Nick Harber
caught an eighty r touchdown pass late in the second quarter,
he grabbed his right leg and then walked it off
up the tunnel with Oscar Adaway. The third following, as
they turned to walk back to the field, a Texas
State trooper bumped into Adaway and wedged between him and Harbor,
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and then turn and pointed at the players, seemingly scolding them.
Harbor was quickly pushed away by his teammate and they
continued to the field.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
The Texas Department of Public Safety is aware of the
incident that occurred today during the Texas and In football
game unquote, the DPS said in a statement. The statement
goes on to say the DPS trooper involved was sent
home from the game. Our office Inspector General is also
aware of the incident and we'll be further looking into
the matter. No additional information will be released at this time.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Unquote.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Okay, so that's what happened. I saw the video. It
just felt, oh, let me tell you this too before
you go cue. I thought, Okay, these football players are
probably not from the city where this game is being played, right,
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because where the game is being played. That police officer
probably lives there. So these football players that ran into
this tunnel are not the home team. So I thought
that too, and I think I wasn't. I don't know
I wasn't, but anyway, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I thought that. So your thoughts, Q. So, first of all,
you thought that correctly, Okay, good, the home team, the
South Carolina game cops are the visiting team. So there's
a lot to unpack here. It doesn't seem like it,
but there is. Because the innocence in your eye, didn't
think there was anything wrong with an officer being present
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in the first place. Okay, I thought that would be
your first question. Why is there an officer in the game?
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Now, as you mentioned it, though, Yeah, why is he there? Officer?
Right there?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
In?
Speaker 2 (21:24):
The game is going? The game is happening right now.
It's not the end of the game when fans are
coming in and out. This is not the beginning of
the game when fans are coming in and out. This
is on the field time where there's something else going on.
The kid just scored a touchdown. I think that means
the game is actively happening right now. There's no reason
for there to be a state trooper present on the
field at that point at all, then you might think, well,
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the state trooper was just walking up the tunnel at
the same time that those guys were walking down. Well, again,
if you weren't watching the game and didn't know that
the touchdown just got scored, maybe you could lean to
that kind of general position of understanding. But then if
you watch the video, because the camera cuts back to
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the kids coming back down the tunnel after the touchdown,
the officer appears to be walking up the tunnel. Now,
the tunnel is wider than three people, so the route
that he took, even if he was on his way
to the back for something, it wouldn't have made any
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sense to try to squeeze in between those players anyway.
But what you notice after he intentionally raises his elbows
and arms and shoulders to intentionally shoulder check both players
and then turn it around and scold them, he simply
just walks back the direction that they are walking, which
means he was not even on his way the tunnel
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to go anywhere he was going to go get. The
only reason he was present was to almost assault these
black players and try to instigate some further physical action.
If these kids aren't level headed ramses and that player
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doesn't push his teammate, like, man, let's just go, don't
worry about it. What happens if they push him back.
Now they've assaulted an officer and their criminals, and he
like it could have.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Far.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
So there's part of it that you kind of laugh
at and look at as ridiculous, But that could have
gone really far because your natural inclination as a man,
if you're walking and another man walks up and shoves you,
is to shove him back, at least unprovoked for no reason.
So everything about that officer's presence doesn't match, doesn't fit,
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doesn't make sense. And watching that very quick video, there's
just a lot of conclusions that general spectators won't draw.
There is no reason for there to be a officer
present during game play in the field of play. If
he was coming down the tunnel as they went up,
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maybe that would have made sense because he could justifiably
not know what just happened, be coming back from you know,
restricted area in the stadium, and then okay, it was
just we just made a mistake. We were in the
same spot. This officer knew and very plain view that
a touchdown had just been scored, that there were players
from the opposite team, like you pointed out, they were
not A and M players, they were South Carolina players,
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and inserted himself there to cause a problem.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Okay, let me say this. I'm gonna play Devil's advocate.
I want you to speak on it. Once upon a
time you told me. I don't think we talked about
it on the show, but you told me there was
a football game and they got in a fight after
the football game. But the team's got to fight or
maybe before the foot game or during I don't know,
but that was a big deal. So Advocate, maybe they
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have police there because these guys are really in shape
and there's a hundred of them and they're all going
to fight. So I want you to weigh in there.
But let me say this because I think that this
is really where.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
My brain went.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I just don't like I can see a police officer
running up and saying whatever he wants to say, go
back on the field, blah blah blah. Right, I can
see that happening to any football player, and there's nothing
to see here. Let me let me, let me stick
the landing because I think you're going to like this part,
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but I think the shoulder check part, I don't see
that part unless it's from a different team and the
players are black.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
All right, go ahead, Well that would land better if
the first part makes sense. That didn't make any sense either, Okay,
well help me. Officer would just show up and tail
players to go back on the field during a football game,
It doesn't make any sense. Police officers being present at
the game makes all the sense in the world. Police
officers in searching themselves in the game the gameplay that
could never happen. No officer would ever go say, get
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back on the field for referees, job right, And it
wasn't players from opposite teams. If players from both teams
went up there and somebody just went to be security
and make sure it didn't escalate. Sure these were teammates
after scoring a touchdown. So even then, there's no even
benefited the doubt Devil's advocate. There's no reason for dator
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to be an officer present there walking toward the players
back up into the tunnel, only to shoulder check them
and then turn around and just walk back the other
way like he wasn't even on his way somewhere. He
only was present to do with that. Do you see?
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Because again, you could see a police officer run into
a tunnel and it'd be weird, but it wouldn't make headlines.
It wouldn't you know, it wouldn't be on ESPN.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Maybe I'm just like, what is that?
Speaker 1 (27:00):
A guy doing? What?
Speaker 2 (27:01):
A weird.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
And they could do that with any other team whatever,
but a police officer's shoulder checking them. Can you imagine
that happening with white players?
Speaker 2 (27:14):
The reason you can't imagine it is because it never happens, right,
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
So that's why I felt so icky when I first
saw it.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
I was like, yoh, what is this?
Speaker 1 (27:22):
You know what I mean? So I know that you
would see it that way, but I wonder if other people, like,
you know, they compare Obama to Trump and they're like,
Trump does all this stuff. You would have never let
Obama do this. And then people are like, well, I mean,
and they always got something to say about it, right,
and they always accuse us of seeing race and everything.
But I'm like, man, it's it'd be so incoting. Why
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would a police officer go and slam his shoulder into
I'm guessing these are young men college age, so early twenties.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Ten majors, team teenagers.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Yeah, so these in from my based on my ages,
are kids. An adult police officer would go insert himself
into gameplay as you mentioned, Q and then go on
shoulder check. Is someone who has that sort of self righteousness,
that god complex, that perceived authority, and then how do
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they wield it over?
Speaker 2 (28:18):
What groups? Do they wield it? Right? Exactly?
Speaker 1 (28:21):
He was touching the back of his hand because he
has brown skin. So that's what I'm imagining, So anybody else,
I don't know if that's true or not, but if
you have any thoughts, feel free to share him. But
that's going to do it for us here today on
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QR code where we share perspective, seek understanding, and shape
out times. The man you are about to hear from
is a man who never answers his phone no, but
he always texts me. He's the Q in the QR code.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
He goes by the name of Q or the voice
you just heard could just text me, but he refuses.
I gotta talk to you the R in the QR code,
and he goes by the name Ramses job stick around.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
We still got to talk about the Texas A and
M football game where the trooper seemed to be very
upset with the players and kind of cradded a little
viral incident. We're also gonna have some dialogue on whether
or not Q believes in fate. Maybe I believe in fate.
We'll see. But right now it's time for q Ward's
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clapback as he talks to us. How about how the
system protects power, not people.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Q Floor's yours today's truth might make some of our
listeners uncomfortable. Rams, I think people just because of our
polarizing position, and polarizing just simply mean we are all
the way to one direction on how we feel. Might
get the impression that we are partisan, folks. No, we
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are nonpartisan. We are for the people. And it just
so happens that most of the time one party isn't
going out of their way for the people. The other
party is acting and the direct disinterest of the people.
So that's where we end up falling. But this is
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not about left or right. This is not about red
or blue. This is not even about Biden or Trump.
It is about a system that has mastered the art
of protecting power no matter who holds it. So for years,
the public has demanded transparency around Jeffrey Epstein, his network,
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his so called client list, and a lot of the
people that were harmed by him and who helped him
cause harm. And lately a lot of pundits have been
taking the lazy position of, well, why didn't Biden just
release it? He had it all that time. Well let's
talk about it, because the truth says more about our
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justice system than it does about either president. First things first,
there was never a single secret master document client list
sitting in some drawer locked away in the Oval office.
There are, as you guys have probably learned, thousands of
pages of evidence, testimony, and sealed records, not one tidy
(02:54):
spreadsheet that says list and here are all the names.
Julie k, a journalist, originally broke the Epstein story, and
she said it best. There is no Epstein client list period.
The reasons those records weren't just dumped online is simple.
(03:17):
There was an ongoing investigation during the Biden administration. Federal
prosecutors were still building cases tied to Epstein's network. Grand
jury materials, sealed victim identities protected by law. That's not
a cover up. That's called due process. I know we
(03:39):
don't believe in that anymore, but that used to be
a thing in this country. But here's why the system
reveals itself and why these processes have a way of
protecting powerful people. This legal framework that was meant to
preserve fairness can be weaponized to preserve privilege. The same
(04:00):
thing that we've seen with a lot of civil rights legislation.
The government can't just dump sealed evidence into public record,
not without jeopardizing open cases, but ramses who benefits most
from that rule, rich connected people, not those who can't
(04:24):
afford bail, who are sitting in prison, who are sitting
in jail or being hailed until they can find a lawyer.
But those who are connected with lawyers who have them
out in an instant and know how to stall what
we would call justice. That kind of loophole existed for
Epstein for years. That loophole exists for really every billionaire,
(04:46):
every banker, and as we've noticed, every politician who has
been caught in that orbit. So, yeah, Biden didn't release
the files, but no president could have without violating the law.
Only this president now seems to have a blatant disregard
for that and that law, the one we all think
(05:08):
is protecting justice, is actually protecting people or to manipulate it.
So this is not about the prior administration's silence. It's
about decades of by partisan complicity. Republicans protected Epstein's plea deal,
(05:29):
Democrats playing polite politics avoided pushing too hard for transparency.
The courts seal the evidence, the media sensationalized the rumors,
and then moved on. Everyone had a reason to justifiably
look away because the deeper you dig into Epstein's network,
(05:51):
the more powerful names you find, And it does not
matter which side of the aisle those names sit on.
That is not political ideaology. That is power infrastructure. The
people who suffered the most you guessed it, survivors, and
they deserve closure and justice. The people deserve the truth,
(06:15):
but truth threatens power, and power protects itself. So instead
of justice, we get fragments, redacted pages, half sealed transcripts, distractions,
a list that doesn't exist. Meanwhile, a man who trafficked
human beings to the elite dies in federal custody under
(06:36):
some very mysterious circumstances, and we're expected to just move on.
We've seen this movie before, folks, Watergate, Iron Contra, Enron,
the Panama Papers, different plot, same ending. The rich right
the rules, the powerful, rewrite history, and the rest of
(06:58):
us kind of wait for answers that never come. The
Epstein files are not a partisan scandal. They're a mirror
showing us how the justice system always bends to power always.
If we ever want to change that, it will not
come from politicians, I'm sorry. It'll come from people who
(07:19):
stop letting partisanship bind them to the same patterns. It'll
come from voters who demand accountability. Because justice only applies
to the powerless in this system. For those in power,
impunity so no, Biden didn't hide the Epstein list. The
(07:41):
system did. And until we figure out a way to
rebuild a system that actually serves the people, every administration,
red and blue will keep protecting the same thing power.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
So weird to have it laid out like that, because
it just I think it well, maybe we're not the
right way to describe it, but it makes you feel
kind of powerless, and you can see how corrupt and
(08:21):
really disgusting some of these people's proclivities are, and you
know that feeling of like what can I do about it,
especially when they're so protected by like half the country.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I mean, it's important before we move on that you
said that part out loud, Ramses, because you know that's
how your brother feels now, like hopeless, and that's kind
of what they're counting on for us to just be
exhausted and throw our hands up and you know what
can we do? And it's how we also land on
these false equivalencies. Both parties are bad, so it doesn't
(08:55):
matter yes and no. Right, as Ramses has said, you know,
to to myself and to listeners over and over again,
we can agree that neither party is going out of
its way to help us. Yeah, but we also can
agree that one party is going out of its way
to harm us. We should we should decide accordingly, at
(09:18):
least until we figure out something else. All right, You
do you believe in fate? Mm hmmm mmmm.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
All right done?
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Uh yeah, I get it. Give me more expound please,
I mean that's what we got.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Do you believe in fate?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I mean straightforwardly, No, I don't bee fate. I don't
believe in karma because I'm alive. Yeah. I've seen awful
people be the most successful and powerful people in the
history of Earth. All right, Amazing people suffer the most difficult, painful,
and uncomfortable lives, and an effort to comfort those people
(10:04):
when things go wrong for those who don't deserve wrong,
people that care about them and who don't want them
to slip into depression and anger or despair, say, hey, man,
everything happens for a reason, and that gives you some
some purpose. There's something greater than me that allowed or
caused this thing to happen. That's going to eventually work
(10:27):
out in my favor. I think it's how you're supposed
to feel. When the truth is a lot of stuff
be super random, it didn't have no reason at all.
It ain't gonna lead to some greater outcome later. You're
gonna be late from work because you stuffed your toe
and you got out the door a little late. That
light caught you. You're stuck in traffic. When you get there,
(10:48):
you and your road up and that's the whole thing.
That's the end of the story. You got rolled up,
and it's not going to lead to some more wonderful
thing later. And if that does, that's random too. Just
my position that everything is pre planned, Then what of
our autonomy? And then what are we doing every day?
What are the decisions that we make? Mean if no
(11:09):
matter what, we're going to end at the same destination.
So I think it removes accountability for decisions. It takes
away the idea of autonomy. It kind of treats us
like children. Don't ever be sad or upset about anything
because it could always be worse and everything happens for
(11:30):
a reason. I think that's the point of that type
of rhetoric. Yeah, something that I could fully subscribe to.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
So how about this, I don't know if they're the
same thing, fate and luck. Fate would be like predetermined
luck would be just like fortuitous events taking place with
no like intelligence or intentionality behind it, right. I think
that's probably the right way to explain the two. I
(12:03):
think that I believe less in fate and more in luck.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Kind of subscribe to luck, rams yeah, yeah, yeah, because
I think it's the same thing. I think luck some
random thing, but the outcome is good. You got lucky.
I think that's kind of what people mean when they
say it. You're not good at that, you just got lucky.
So yeah, it's it's kind of antithetical to fate, no luck,
it's something good made a mistake and happened to you
(12:33):
that day. So yeah, I subscribe to what you're saying now,
but I've forgive okay.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
So I think that I believe in luck in a
real world sense, and I think I believe in fate less.
So I think I like the eye idea of fate
(13:01):
in a romantic sense, not romantic like boy meets Girl,
boy Loves Girl, but in the romantic sense of the
word like, like I like the idea of being able
to say, you know what, we were on a path
and we didn't know it, and we got where we're going,
and we looked around one day and we were like,
oh my gosh, we're here. This must have been the
plan the whole time. I kind of like the idea that,
(13:22):
But do I believe that it really sincerely happened? No,
So I like again, I think, I like the romanticized
story that I get to tell myself. I like I
think the comfort of knowing that maybe there is some
intelligent factor in the story involved in the story somehow,
and there was some design, some intelligent design, and the.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Steps were ordered to a degree.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
But whether or not it feels like that in the
day to day, whether or not it feels like that,
it's like sincerely in my heart when I break it down,
like logically, linearly, I say that I really feel that way.
I just think that I like the again, the romanticized
idea of the word fate. But the truth is that
(14:08):
for me, you and I've had this conversation before. I
feel very lucky that certain things happened along the way
in my life. I, for instance, you and I have
gone back and forth on this one. But regardless, I
didn't end up growing up and becoming the worst version
(14:30):
of myself. I don't believe. I don't believe that this
is the worst version of what I could have been
given the circumstances of my birth, being born in the
eighties and Compton, California. Like, there's a lot of things
that could have happened that I could imagine would have
been very worse for me. And the outcomes of my
life and the version of life that I live right now,
(14:51):
I believe they're the result of again fortuitous events along
the way, and luck is probably a good way to
describe that. Of course, hard work comes into it, but
I think a lot of people work hard, they're maybe
just not as lucky. Some people work less hard and
they're super lucky and they you know whatever. Right, But
(15:13):
whether or not fate exists, like really sincerely, I think
I'm with you in that it's kind of hard to
just say things were faded. Another thing, too, I think
that that happens a lot, is that people indeed use
fate to describe a romantic partner like an actual like
boy meets girl type of situation. And I don't know
(15:36):
if that's true either, But again, I really do appreciate.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
The even stronger disbelief in that, right, right, But I
get a billion people on the planet. Yeah, they had
one for me at the mall in the same city. Yeah, no,
I get it. Yeah, but I made every decision right
to end up here at the same time as you today, sweetie.
Oh my god, even subbing your tempeness. This must be fate, right,
(16:02):
it's But bear with me.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
There's something to be said about the warm fuzzies that
you get when you get lost in the fantasy in
the What if this is actually true? What if this
is fate? What if this was in the stars? I
think there's something there. And I think that humans we
love to tell ourselves a good story. I read a report.
(16:26):
I might have still been in college when I read
this port but it's said that human beings have a
predisposition toward faith belief, and this is why we are
an aspirational species and the belief. A lot of people
fill that in with religion, but I think that fate
(16:46):
or belief in fate, also checks that box. We believe
in something greater than ourselves. We believe in a promise
of a better tomorrow. Indeed, we work for it, will
plant trees that will never be able to sit in
the shade of We are species that does that and
that's not something we can say about other species, and
that's something that it may or may not be unique
(17:07):
to us. We can't know that across the board, but
I think that it's something that without it, we would
not be the species that we are. And so I
think that having a little bit of room, or at
least the romantic idea of fate is not the worst
thing in the world. But whether or not I like
live and die by fail Like I don't read a
horoscope or anything like that, I don't think you do either.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
I think there's some trouble in the romanticization of fate.
But that's a longer conversation than we have time to have.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
All right, we'll circle back, but right now it's time
to get to entertainment. So Texas A and M trooper
who pointed at players has been reassigned. All right, I
saw this video. You know, I'm really anxious to hear
what it is, or I should say excited to hear
your thoughts on it. Q with all sports related stuff, right,
(17:58):
but I didn't like this video. I'm gonna say it, man,
I'm gonna say it.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
You're gonna like it even less. After I described all
of what happened, you're gonna like it even less.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Okay, okay, I'll wait, But I didn't like this video.
And here's why. The players that ran into the tunnel,
because for folks haven't seen the tunnel. Some football players
ran into a tunnel. And then when they ran out
of the tunnel, there was a police officer and he
(18:34):
like shoulder checked the players and then he turned around
and like pointed and yelled at them. Right, So that's it.
That's the whole video. And the players were black and
the police officer was white, and it just it just
is it's troubling to see it happen. I don't know
what they were talking about. Don't know the first thing
about this stuff. Couldn't tell you. The video was two
(18:56):
seconds long, right, but it just looked super icky. All So,
I'm going to read this for the first time because
Q sent this to me. He said that this was
the right one first use for today's show. So this
comes from ESPN, and you'll know what I know, and
then we'll hear from Q all right again at ESPN.
Texas A and M said. A state trooper who made
contact with South Carolina players during Saturday's game has been
(19:20):
relieved of his game day duties. After receiver Nick Harber
caught an eighty r touchdown pass late in the second quarter,
he grabbed his right leg and then walked it off
up the tunnel with Oscar Adaway. The third following, as
they turned to walk back to the field, a Texas
State trooper bumped into Adaway and wedged between him and Harbor,
(19:44):
and then turn and pointed at the players, seemingly scolding them.
Harbor was quickly pushed away by his teammate and they
continued to the field.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
The Texas Department of Public Safety is aware of the
incident that occurred today during the Texas and In football
game unquote, the DPS said in a statement. The statement
goes on to say the DPS trooper involved was sent
home from the game. Our office Inspector General is also
aware of the incident and we'll be further looking into
the matter. No additional information will be released at this time.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Unquote.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Okay, so that's what happened. I saw the video. It
just felt, oh, let me tell you this too before
you go cue. I thought, Okay, these football players are
probably not from the city where this game is being played, right,
(20:35):
because where the game is being played. That police officer
probably lives there. So these football players that ran into
this tunnel are not the home team. So I thought
that too, and I think I wasn't. I don't know
I wasn't, but anyway, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I thought that. So your thoughts, Q. So, first of all,
you thought that correctly, Okay, good, the home team, the
South Carolina game cops are the visiting team. So there's
a lot to unpack here. It doesn't seem like it,
but there is. Because the innocence in your eye, didn't
think there was anything wrong with an officer being present
(21:10):
in the first place. Okay, I thought that would be
your first question. Why is there an officer in the game?
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Now, as you mentioned it, though, Yeah, why is he there? Officer?
Right there?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
In?
Speaker 2 (21:24):
The game is going? The game is happening right now.
It's not the end of the game when fans are
coming in and out. This is not the beginning of
the game when fans are coming in and out. This
is on the field time where there's something else going on.
The kid just scored a touchdown. I think that means
the game is actively happening right now. There's no reason
for there to be a state trooper present on the
field at that point at all, then you might think, well,
(21:47):
the state trooper was just walking up the tunnel at
the same time that those guys were walking down. Well, again,
if you weren't watching the game and didn't know that
the touchdown just got scored, maybe you could lean to
that kind of general position of understanding. But then if
you watch the video, because the camera cuts back to
(22:08):
the kids coming back down the tunnel after the touchdown,
the officer appears to be walking up the tunnel. Now,
the tunnel is wider than three people, so the route
that he took, even if he was on his way
to the back for something, it wouldn't have made any
(22:28):
sense to try to squeeze in between those players anyway.
But what you notice after he intentionally raises his elbows
and arms and shoulders to intentionally shoulder check both players
and then turn it around and scold them, he simply
just walks back the direction that they are walking, which
means he was not even on his way the tunnel
(22:51):
to go anywhere he was going to go get. The
only reason he was present was to almost assault these
black players and try to instigate some further physical action.
If these kids aren't level headed ramses and that player
(23:14):
doesn't push his teammate, like, man, let's just go, don't
worry about it. What happens if they push him back.
Now they've assaulted an officer and their criminals, and he
like it could have.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Far.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
So there's part of it that you kind of laugh
at and look at as ridiculous, But that could have
gone really far because your natural inclination as a man,
if you're walking and another man walks up and shoves you,
is to shove him back, at least unprovoked for no reason.
So everything about that officer's presence doesn't match, doesn't fit,
(23:52):
doesn't make sense. And watching that very quick video, there's
just a lot of conclusions that general spectators won't draw.
There is no reason for there to be a officer
present during game play in the field of play. If
he was coming down the tunnel as they went up,
(24:14):
maybe that would have made sense because he could justifiably
not know what just happened, be coming back from you know,
restricted area in the stadium, and then okay, it was
just we just made a mistake. We were in the
same spot. This officer knew and very plain view that
a touchdown had just been scored, that there were players
from the opposite team, like you pointed out, they were
not A and M players, they were South Carolina players,
(24:34):
and inserted himself there to cause a problem.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Okay, let me say this. I'm gonna play Devil's advocate.
I want you to speak on it. Once upon a
time you told me. I don't think we talked about
it on the show, but you told me there was
a football game and they got in a fight after
the football game. But the team's got to fight or
maybe before the foot game or during I don't know,
but that was a big deal. So Advocate, maybe they
(25:01):
have police there because these guys are really in shape
and there's a hundred of them and they're all going
to fight. So I want you to weigh in there.
But let me say this because I think that this
is really where.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
My brain went.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I just don't like I can see a police officer
running up and saying whatever he wants to say, go
back on the field, blah blah blah. Right, I can
see that happening to any football player, and there's nothing
to see here. Let me let me, let me stick
the landing because I think you're going to like this part,
(25:38):
but I think the shoulder check part, I don't see
that part unless it's from a different team and the
players are black.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
All right, go ahead, Well that would land better if
the first part makes sense. That didn't make any sense either, Okay,
well help me. Officer would just show up and tail
players to go back on the field during a football game,
It doesn't make any sense. Police officers being present at
the game makes all the sense in the world. Police
officers in searching themselves in the game the gameplay that
could never happen. No officer would ever go say, get
(26:13):
back on the field for referees, job right, And it
wasn't players from opposite teams. If players from both teams
went up there and somebody just went to be security
and make sure it didn't escalate. Sure these were teammates
after scoring a touchdown. So even then, there's no even
benefited the doubt Devil's advocate. There's no reason for dator
(26:33):
to be an officer present there walking toward the players
back up into the tunnel, only to shoulder check them
and then turn around and just walk back the other
way like he wasn't even on his way somewhere. He
only was present to do with that. Do you see?
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Because again, you could see a police officer run into
a tunnel and it'd be weird, but it wouldn't make headlines.
It wouldn't you know, it wouldn't be on ESPN.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Maybe I'm just like, what is that?
Speaker 1 (27:00):
A guy doing? What?
Speaker 2 (27:01):
A weird.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
And they could do that with any other team whatever,
but a police officer's shoulder checking them. Can you imagine
that happening with white players?
Speaker 2 (27:14):
The reason you can't imagine it is because it never happens, right,
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
So that's why I felt so icky when I first
saw it.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
I was like, yoh, what is this?
Speaker 1 (27:22):
You know what I mean? So I know that you
would see it that way, but I wonder if other people, like,
you know, they compare Obama to Trump and they're like,
Trump does all this stuff. You would have never let
Obama do this. And then people are like, well, I mean,
and they always got something to say about it, right,
and they always accuse us of seeing race and everything.
But I'm like, man, it's it'd be so incoting. Why
(27:43):
would a police officer go and slam his shoulder into
I'm guessing these are young men college age, so early twenties.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Ten majors, team teenagers.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Yeah, so these in from my based on my ages,
are kids. An adult police officer would go insert himself
into gameplay as you mentioned, Q and then go on
shoulder check. Is someone who has that sort of self righteousness,
that god complex, that perceived authority, and then how do
(28:17):
they wield it over?
Speaker 2 (28:18):
What groups? Do they wield it? Right? Exactly?
Speaker 1 (28:21):
He was touching the back of his hand because he
has brown skin. So that's what I'm imagining, So anybody else,
I don't know if that's true or not, but if
you have any thoughts, feel free to share him. But
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