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October 19, 2025 • 28 mins

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Still broadcasting from the Civic Cipher studios. Welcome back to
the r Code, where we share perspective, seek understanding, and
shape outcomes. Ramsey's job that is the name I go
by it pick shout out to two words. Need you
to stick around because obviously we have two words clapback
coming up. But also we're going to be hearing from
the great young mind known as Noah de Barasso, one

(00:23):
of the great progressive influencers, and we definitely don't want
you to miss out on that. But before we get there,
it is time for the clapback Q.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
This is who they are when they think no one's watching,
when the mask slips, all their slogans fall apart. Here
we are again. Would I think Ramse's favorite segment because
he insisted that it happened my clapback, And tonight I

(00:56):
want to talk about what happens when the good guy
MAGA performance ends, when the flags and the slogans and
the polished speeches go away, and all that's left is
what they actually believe, because that's exactly what we just

(01:20):
saw when over twenty eight thousand private messages among young
Republicans and their leadership were exposed. This wasn't some random
group of trolls online, elected officers, state leaders, campaign staffers,
the next and current generation of the Republican Party. And

(01:44):
what they're saying behind closed doors, it's not edgy, it's
not taken out of context. It's vile, period all caps,
bowl underlined vile. And these leaked messages, they weren't talking

(02:10):
about policy, the economic state of the country, infrastructure, you know,
things that our legislators and politicians are supposed to discuss. Oh,
they were too busy making jokes about grape slagrey and

(02:31):
gas chambers. One of them called the R word epic,
others using racial slurs so casually that it was like
a punctuation mark on their sentences. They referenced fourteen eighty eight,
a well known neo Nazi slogan, and they didn't reference

(02:56):
it as something they condemned, but once again as a
punch line. These weren't one off slip ups. This was
thousands of messages over months. This is who they really
are when no one's watching. And here's what makes this

(03:16):
so dangerous. Rams Publicly, they posture as patriots, They wrap
themselves in the flag. They talk about Christianity, family values,
traditional America. They're supposed to be the party that's here
to save the country. Behind closed doors. However, they glorify violence,

(03:44):
mock the oppressed, and joke about actual genocide. This isn't
a move it, this isn't a movement. I'm sorry that
was infiltrated by extremists. This is the move that's incubating them,
creating them, teaching them, truly indoctrinating them. These are not

(04:09):
the outliers. These are the insiders, future strategists and candidates,
people who will shape the party's platform, run campaigns, and
sadly sit in positions of power. And what happens when

(04:32):
they get caught? Are they shamed? Are they fired? Are
they encouraged to step down? Of course not. They're apologized
for They cry that these messages were taken out of
context or that they were just jokes. Some of them

(04:54):
blame doctored messages. Oh and of course the left their
political enemies. But here's the thing. Kansas Young Republicans didn't
deactivate their entire chapter over one bad joke. Multiple state

(05:16):
leaders didn't resign over just trolling. They did it because
the receipts are undeniable. Ramses is a journalist, hours and
hours of research. He understands like I do. This was

(05:37):
not a misunderstanding. These were not doctored messages. This was
a mirror that they now once again had to face.
We've heard it before. When someone shows you who they are,
believe them. When an entire political pipeline shows you who
they are, understand what that means for today and for

(06:00):
the future. These weren't the kids in the back row
making defensive jokes just to shock their teacher. These are
people being groomed to become your next mayors, senators, campaign directors,
congressional staffers. And if this is what they're saying in private,
imagine what they'll legislate in public. This is why pretending

(06:23):
it's just edgy humor is so dangerous, because history has
shown us what starts as jokes in private rooms has
a way of becoming policy in public squares. Here, my friends,
is how we clap back. This isn't just a scandal.
This is documented confession. This is the rot they tried

(06:46):
to wrap in red, white and blue. And they're not ashamed,
they're just sorry they got caught. And if we don't
call it what it is, white nationalism dressed in khakis
and campaign pens. It will keep growing in the dark
because this is who they are when no one's watching.
The question now isn't whether they'll try to clean this up.

(07:08):
We know they won't. The question is how much of
this ideology has already seaked into the bloodstream of their movement.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
As always potent, measured, and well executed. iHeartMedia recently announced
Now You Know with Noah de Barasso, the debut podcast
from Noah de Barasso, the thirteen year old political commentator
on the rise who made waves with its direct, sharp

(07:45):
and witty commentary throughout the twenty twenty four presidential election cycle.
The first episodes are available on the iHeartRadio app and
everywhere podcasts are heard. Noah de Barasso is one of
the youngest faces of the Democratic Party, one of the
sharpest minds covering politics, and one of the rising stars
in the podcasting space. And he is our guest today.

(08:08):
This is the QR Code and I am Ramses. Job
all right, Noah, David Rossol, Welcome to the show man.
How you doing today, Ramses?

Speaker 3 (08:17):
How are you?

Speaker 1 (08:18):
I'm flourishing, my friend, listen.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
I got to know Ramses three minutes before this I'm excited.
I'm ready. Seems like a great guy. I'm gonna keep
it a buck. I am freestylin, and I am excited
for this non PR episode with Ramses today. I have
no idea what we're going to talk about.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
We'll have no fear. We're just gonna get to know
you a little bit. You know, I've had the pleasure
of coming across some of your videos, some of your
more viral videos, and so I've been aware of you
and my co host, he actually sent over some of
your videos and I remember thinking, Man, this guy's on fire.
This is the future that we need to be excited about,

(08:59):
right And so, you know, uh, for for folks that
didn't have that experience, I think it's just a matter
of making sure that they're aware of the work that
you're doing, the brilliant mind that you have, and what
I think a lot of folks can look forward to.
So with that in mind, do us a favor, and
you know, I give you a brief introduction, but talk
a little bit about yourself, a little bit about your

(09:22):
your background and sort of what led you to this
conversation we're about to have today.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yeah, I'm gonna say that was one of my favorite intros.
Like ever, I like the intro. I appreciate that Ramses,
of course, and I'm gonna make sure I'm gonna make
sure I get you right. So you you kind of
explained it a little bit. I wouldn't say. I wouldn't say, my, my, my, here,
how do I frame this? I want to say mainly
where people would would find And I was at the

(09:48):
sheriff sheriff representing Atlanta's party birthday party, and he said,
if you're your if you don't know, no, you're not
on social media, and that was his thing. And I
think in recent times following the election, I've done television
appearances and then and then kept on social media and
now the podcast and this month and next moment, I'm
fixing to get back active on social media. I think

(10:10):
the branch has gotten the tent has gotten bigger than
Noah tent has gotten bigger, and so I'm excited to
be on the same network as you Ramses with the
kyr code. And I think I think you summed it
up pretty well.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Okay, all right, well, good good. So one of the
things that you know, we didn't get into the weeds
just yet and hopefully this will give you a bit
of an aperture into the conversation that that I'm hoping
our listeners will will resonate with our listeners. But one
of the things that you said recently in a social

(10:43):
media post of yours is that you are not an activist.
You said, you aren't an activist, So do us a
favor explain your role in the political space so that
we get an idea of sort of all that your
path entails.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
I appreciate you asking that, and I appreciate you doing
the research to know that. I appreciate that. So why
say that? Is when I think of activism, I think
of a fist up. I think of fighting grassroots lee
on the streets and knocking the doors and doing all
the the move the things that that are necessary to
create a movement. I I wouldn't say I think out
of respect for activists. I wouldn't say I'm doing that.

(11:21):
I would say the reach is more so, like you mentioned,
from social media, from from entertainment, and from podcasting, and
from and from the television world, I think activism has
more of a grassroots background to it. I think there
are so many great activists and I would not discredit
them by just handing out the term as soon as
someone says go bo and so out of respect for

(11:41):
that position, I would say, I am just much of
a rapper as I am an activist, and I think
out of respect for activists that I respect so greatly
and that their work is so needed to the country,
I didn't I that's not my role, and yeah, and
my role, and like you said, I'm a just say
it straight up. I think the role of an activist

(12:05):
is even more needed in this moment than anything imaginable.
So if I can collaborate with activists and if I
can work with them to make the common goal possible,
We're gonna do it. But I think my role in
this moment is the entertainment role in spreading the political
messaging that that's needed through through entertainment.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Sure, sure, I appreciate that because I recognize that as
a a broadcaster. I'm a longtime broadcaster on the radio,
and activists they are not broadcasters often, that's right. Activists

(12:45):
are not DJs. Activists are not social media influencers.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
That's why I always say, like when I see politicians
doing the fist up like the squad I'm like, you're
a politician, you're not an activist. Go do some policy work,
but can spread.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
There you go, there you go. And so this supplemental
work that you find yourself doing, I think is is
critical right now. It's critical because those with the messaging,
those that have galvanized the people, those who have communicated
directly with the people, as you mentioned via grassroots efforts,
those people will need platforming. Those people will need, you know,

(13:22):
folks to you know, challenge their ideas to ensure that
those ideas are going to kind of retain their buoyancy
as they float out into the world, et cetera. And
so I absolutely respect that statement. And I knew that
you were going to kind of approach it from that direction,
but I recognize that that's unpredictable. No, hey man, I

(13:42):
love it. I love it all right. Well, how about
this something you might know? Well, after going viral so
many times, what is it that made you want to
start a podcast when you were already kind of you know,
hitting the mark with your social media point is what
do you think was missing from the podcasting space that

(14:04):
your show brings to the collective conversation.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
I appreciate you asking that. So it's the same thing
that Charlomagne and the God and Andrew Lorai and everyone
I was up on that interview panel with when I
was being interviewed for the Native Land in the Breakfast
Club collab, when they offered me the show, it's the
same thing they saw. It was that, and we kind of,
like what we said earlier, we need a marge between
activism kind of and keep them, keep them in their respect,

(14:30):
and then make sure that entertainment voices are heard inside
of politics. And so what I will say is that
we need people in on microphones, on radio and on
television interviews that can spread a message not only for
one party, but for a movement. And so I cannot
wait until I have the opportunity. When the person comes up,

(14:51):
a certain activist that's on the rise, I give them
a shout out and appreciate their work. But mainly the
reason I want to do a podcast right now anyway,
is that it's so necessary in entertainment world that we
have voices that are spreading political messaging, not just sometimes
making the stay and come out and endorse. And sometimes
we have Nelly come support Trump and sometimes we have this,

(15:13):
but no, we need people that are affiliated that are
affiliated with these entertainment companies to come on and say
some political messaging. That's something that Angela Rai has done
so well. Someone who is so seen in the entertainment
world can come and speak politics someone like that. So
that's where really where it comes from.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Okay, Okay, I love that, and do me a favorite.
We've been talking about activists and then you mentioned names like,
you know, Angela Rai, who is in the entertainment space.
For folks that have not yet been able to check
out your program or you know, might be looking forward
to what is in the pipeline. Give me an example

(15:51):
of maybe a recent guest or recent topic or something
that that you've discussed on the shore, or maybe a
couple if you want to share them.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Yeah, it's actually related. So the kind of the ground
of the of the show. What I what I've kind
of focused on a little bit is back back in
December twenty twenty four, I endorsed a candidate for Democratic
Party Chare and and a lot of people were like,
why is he on this national news thing talking about

(16:19):
who he's endorsing for this, Why is that matter? Why
is that relevant? So what I what I really wanted
to talk about with Macy Gray and with Sarah McBride.
It was so deep I got I got lost what
I wanted. What I talked on with someone, all the
way from Macy Gray to a podcast on iHeart to
Sarah Congresswoman Sarah McBride is it was all ground to

(16:41):
influence how someone like Sarah McBride has such a large
social media presence and she's a member of Congress for
one of the first members of Congress to be that
big on social media. Macey Gray, who is a Hollywood
celebrity speaking about it with Paul and it's all it's
a politician her and then podcasters and all like that.
And I think the main grounds for it is influenced.

(17:01):
Like I spoke about, I encourage my people to go
out and support that candidate for DNC chair, donate his campaign,
help them fundraise, and it's all grounds to that. So
that's really been the basis of it.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Gotcha, gotcha. Now, let me let me while we're here,
let me flip this question on its head. Let's project
out into the future. Give me an idea of a guest,
or maybe a couple of guests, or maybe topics, whatever
you feel comfortable with, something that you would like to
see on your show, in terms of a guest or
a topic you want to cover, I.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
Want to get them. I set this on a few interviews.
Let's set this on rolling out interview. I want to
get their regular answer. I don't want a PR answer.
I don't want something that they've been told. I don't
want notes. In fact, this isn't something that produce I
tell the producers do. But when they're here, when they're
in the studio or on there on the on the
big screen, I say, hey, put those notes away. Let's
just have a conversation. And I think if we can

(17:55):
get a non PR answer in a in a real
conversation about what we're to talk about. We're talking about
why this member of Congress. I'm gonna have them on
why he proposed this policy or why what does this
song mean to Macy Gray and stuff like that, and
a lot of upcoming guests are going to be very
familiar to the mainstream, so that's really I want to
get their real answer.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Okay, all right, so give me one name of one
guest that you would like to run through this particular
style of interview, I have.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
To say, in terms of crossing political endorsements all the
way to crossing entertainment and merging those entertainment and political
endorsements and putting those together, I can't help but think
of the most recent in the twenty twenty four election.
I'm thinking of Megan the Stein and I'm thinking of Gloilla.

(18:47):
Those are two people and Cardi Bia. Those are three
people that use their platforms in twenty twenty four loudly
to speak and everyone was like a rapper speaking about this.
And I was at Kamala Harris's when I met her.
When I got back with her yesterday, I saw her
for the first time in a few months. Yesterday she
spoke about that on stage shortly after speaking with me.

(19:07):
She talked about she talked about she talks about that
when she got on the big stage on the on
the book tour. So it's really that's a really that's
a big one because when you think of who endorsed
in twenty twenty four election that traditionally doesn't traditionally just
raps traditionally does djying traditionally speaks on on certain hip
hop issues. When they when you get their voices and politics.

(19:29):
It's powerful, It really is.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Sure this I know. Okay, that's a good answer. I
like that one. Now, as one of the younger voices
and one of the more visible faces, I think you're
in a position to know the impact that you've had
on politics as they relate to younger people, people who

(19:53):
aren't even able to cast a vote. Right, So you're
probably in a better position than anyone else to answer
this question from your perspective, what is the role that
you think young people will play in politics ahead of
the midterms and ahead of the next presidential election.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
I'm gonna say it in one word, of them elaborate
everything young people determine. And I'm not speaking about young
people the platform. I'm not speaking about young people that
are visible like you mentioned. I'm talking about young people
in general. One young person can show their grandma a
video of Okay, let's let's use a specific state. Right,

(20:38):
Let's say, right now, you're in your you spoke about
you're being You're in Arizona. Your governor's Katie Hobbs. If
they show their grandma video of Katie Hobbs vetoing great
bills or signing into a log of great bills because
they have more access to social media and TikTok and
media than their grandma. Their grandma probably has network television, newspapers,
et cetera. They show their grandma, Hey, grandma loccated, object

(21:00):
did about a new bill? Just veto look what bill
she passed. They have the access of their grandmothers, their
family and everything. So young people that that go to
school every day may have a job, have that sort
of impact. Young people. The platform whole nother discussion. But
I think young people hold the power because they hold
the phones, they hold the social media. They can post,

(21:22):
They could pull up a video met explaining why I
support this person not this person. It's powerful, it really is.
They determine everything in the midterms. I've told every candidate
i'm supporting, say hey, we need to get on the road.
I need to get on the road. I need to
speak to these people. I need to encourage them. Just
like Kamala Harris sent me out to talk to young
people on twenty twenty four. I think everyone, no matter what,
to focus on young people. Whether you're running in a

(21:44):
district that's forty eight percent elderly and very few young
people live there, or a very wealthy neighborhood that very
few young people can live in. It's very important you
focus on young people. Very very there like that.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Now, let me let let's make this a little bit
more relevant to the culture. And I'm curious what your
response would be. And if you don't have anything substantial,
that's totally fine, but just curious from where you sit, Uh,
what is how to ask this? What is the main

(22:20):
thing that you think I've asked this question to a
lot of people, But what is the main thing you
think that black people, black communities should remain mindful of
in Trump's America.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
Bood to get you? And I'm not talking about policy wise,
I'm talking about misinformation wise. This has Instagram on it.
I have Instagram an Instagram user. Every time I scroll,
maybe every I'll want to say, every thirteen videos is
a lie. And there might be more or less. Someone
might got said. Somebody might say they have a million dollars.
That's a lot. But I'm speaking about a political lie.

(22:56):
I'm speaking about a lot of a video that says
FEMA only provides it's seven hundred and fifty dollars after
Hurricane Helen, And in reality that wasn't true. In reality,
they got plenty of assistance. That was just what you need.
That's what you could get before you applied for more.
And I say this, misinformation is the number one thing
that you need to be protected by. You need to
protect yourself from it. I need you to look at

(23:19):
people who make a video of Putin in the eye, right,
Vladimir Putin. That's a great example Russian misinformation. Oh my goodness.
There's so many people around me that say, hey, you
saw Putin held up the Bible with the black Jesus
on it. And I looked it up within one Google search,
I saw that was fake, a doctored video. Why would
Putin In his cronies need to make a video of

(23:40):
him holding a black Jesus Bible? Maybe? Is it because
they want black Americans to like Russia while success susceptible.
I say that word all the time, and I mess
it up to misinformation, right. It's embarrassing and it is
truly truly a shame when I have people around me saying, hey,
Putin love black and I look and I look up,

(24:02):
that's vake. I'm sorry, and they still don't believe it.
It's not your fault. It really isn't, so you need
to be mindful of misinformation no matter what.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
I love that. I love that. I appreciate that too,
because again I've asked that question to a number of
great thinkers, a number of great leaders, from you know,
Charlemagne to Joy Read to we had Stacy Abrams on
the other day, on and on me too, So I've

(24:33):
never been able to ask someone who has as fresh
a you of politics as you, And so I appreciate
the thoughtfulness there because that is something that that might
be a blind spot to a Stacy Abrams, right, or
maybe not a blind spot, but maybe something that's not
as much of a priority. But recognizing how much of

(24:53):
life centers around the way information flows nowadays, is that's
something that is definitely worth bearing in mind. I think
I think I have an iPhone that was that is
older than you, right, and so you grew up in
an era where smartphones are normal, and I will what
your iPhone, Well, I have an I have the current

(25:16):
iPhone now, but I have still my first iPhone and
that was from two thousand and maybe two thousand and eight,
something like that. So at any event, this has been
a joy talking to you, And I know I only
get you for a few minutes, but before you go,
the world is sort of your oyster right now. I

(25:37):
know that you know you're you're launching your podcast and
and or you've launched your podcast and are actively, you know,
cultivating relationships with guests and so forth, and obviously exploring
this new platform. But you seem to be a very enthusiastic,
very energetic, very ambitious young man. And I salute that,
and I respect that. What else is on the horizon

(26:01):
for you, for new fans that might want to tap
into you to kind of create some connective tissue. What
what do they have to look forward to?

Speaker 3 (26:08):
I really appreciate I appreciate you asking that. So I'll
say I've been an active on social media due to
the fact I'm explained. When the podcast was coming out,
I was like, I want to wipe it. I want
I want to I want to put my clips up,
I want to do all that. I will be back
on social media. I'm going to target that misinformation that
we spoke about. I'm gonna do the fun videos. I'm
gonna cultivate the cultivate the audience for for the midterms.

(26:33):
And this is content that that's really gonna engage. So
I think people are just waiting. My social media is
my name at Noah de Braso everywhere, and when I
when I get back on social media, I think I
think a lot of people are excited for that come back.
I'm going to be back on social media as soon
as this month, next month. And it's not like I'm
an active I do stories, I do, I do tweets

(26:53):
a lot, but I was not. I was very active
on social media last year and I need to get
back on that on that page sometime this year. But
it is coming.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
It's going to be great, all right. I love that.
So before we let you go one more time, drop
your social media, drop the podcast so people know how
to get a hold of you, any other website information
like that so our listeners can tap in with you.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Absolutely appreciate that this no Deave Barrosso. And you can
find me on social media at Noday Barrosso. That's spelled
differently k n O w A d E b A
r A s oh. That's all social media, so you
can find the podcast wherever you get your podcast. Now
you know no Dea Brosso.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Well, thank you so much for your time, the work
that you do, your brilliance, your energy, keep going. If
you ever need some big brothers to help out in
any meaningful way, just count on me and count on Qube.
We're going to be here for you. But we salute you,
We're really proud of you, and we thank you again
for your time. Once again. Today's guest is one of

(27:49):
the youngest faces of the Democratic Party, one of the
sharpest minds covering politics, and one of the rising stars
in the podcasting space. Noah Dave Barasso. That's going to
do it for us here on the QR code. We
appreciate you checking us out on them again. Uh yeah.
Today's show is always was produced by Chris Thompson. If

(28:11):
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(28:33):
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