July 30, 2025 • 23 mins
Hosts Ramses Ja and Q Ward break down the latest details in the NYC Park Avenue Mass Shooting.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Broadcasting from the Civic Cipher studios. Welcome to the QR Code,
where we share perspectives, seek understanding, and shape outcomes. The
voice you are about to hear comes from the Q.
In the QR code, he is the man with the
cleanest edge up west of the Mississippi.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
He goes by the name of.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Q Ward there R in the QR code goes by
the name ramses Jah, and he be lying to y'all sometimes,
And that's okay because we forgive him and we love him.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
He's the reason this whole thing works. I just work here,
all right.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Well, we need you to stick around because we got
a lot to talk about today. Most notably, we're going
to be talking about Britain moving to potentially recognize a
Palestinian state unless Israel agrees to a ceasefire in Gaza.
This is a long standing story that we've been covering
(00:49):
quite a bit. A lot of people have a lot
of different opinions on it, so we're gonna examine this
latest development. We're also going to spend some time mulling
over a video that was released that kind of echoes
the sentiment that Q shared with me not too long ago,
and we're going to be asking the question, are they
(01:10):
really trying to bring back slavery? There are some people
with some compelling arguments that it looks like they are.
I mean, they kind of change the legalese and the framework.
But indeed, it looks like a duck, and it walks
like a duck, and it quacts like a duck. So
we're going to get into those weeds as well. And
(01:31):
also we are going to take some time, now that
more details have come out, to discuss the Park Avenue
mass shooting. You know, obviously you know, we're not reporters,
so I mean, we can say something happened, but once
the details come out, then we can kind of offer
some thoughts and connected with other things and so forth.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
And so.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
That's something that is obviously a country mourning the loss
of that life. But now that we have more details,
hopefully we'll be able to kind of see what exactly
happen up in there. But before we do that, it
is time, as always for a feel good feature, and
today's feel good future comes from USA today Beyonce Knowles Carter,
the woman whose Internet we all exist on. She concluded
(02:15):
her groundbreaking Cowboy Carter Tour in Las Vegas, making history
with the highest grossing country tour as she surpassed four
hundred million dollars in earnings. My little sister was there,
actually my little sister, and a ton of our friends
and family friends, both my little sisters. It was a
lot of people went to the show anyway. The Grammy
winning singer took her final bow on her Cowboy Carter
(02:36):
Tour and the Rodeo Chitlin Circuit Tour at Allegiant Stadium
in Vegas on July twenty sixth. She ended her run
with a bang, bringing out Destiny's Child, jay Z and
Shibouzzi for surprise performances. The concert signaled the end of
her Cowboy Carter era, a thirty two stop stadium tour
that spanned the US and Europe. The nine city stint
gross over four hundred million dollars, with attendance over one
(02:58):
and a half million in its three month run, according
to Live Nation. Billboard reported Beyonce's Cowboy Carter Tour is
the highest grossing country tour of all time and the
shortest tour in any genre to make over four hundred million.
Beyonce extends her record as the highest grossing black artist
of all time and the highest grossing R and B
artist of all time. With her Cowboy Carter Tour, she
also becomes the first woman and the first American act
(03:20):
to have two separate tours gross over four hundred million.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Bill Board reported, Coldplay.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Ed Sheeran, and The Rolling Stones are the only other
acts that have accomplished this feat. Beyonce's Renaissance World Tour
Act one reported the gross five hundred and eighty million
dollars in twenty twenty three. As fans know, Beyonce first
debuted the highly anticipated show at Sofi Stadium in Los
Angeles on April twenty eighth, with thirty nine songs on
the setlist. The tour proved to be a revolutionary spectacle
(03:45):
filled with fashion, different music genres, and most notably country music,
and cultural commentary as she challenged industry norms. So Beyonce
now has the crown of the highest grossing country tour
of all time, beating out Taylor Swift and George Right
and everybody. This is the highest grossing so that indeed
is a feel good feature for us around here because
(04:07):
a lot of people hate it on her Okay, heavy stuff.
The Park Avenue mass shooting. You know, before we paint
this picture, I'll tell you kind of how this came
across my desk. Chris Thompson, this show's producer, sent us
(04:27):
this story in a group chat that we have with
you know, the show's producer, and he immediately let us
know that the shooter was a black man, right, and
that's very unusual when it comes to mass shootings. Normally
(04:48):
it's white males that you know, do these types of
horrific acts. And this isn't the first black male mass shooter.
There have been others. Of course, this country has a
gun problem, but when there is a black mass shooter,
we don't get to go into the typical recesses of
(05:10):
the internet like we normally do. You know, typically we know,
you know, if it's a white male shooter, they've been radicalized,
they hate the government, they hate black people, they hate Hispanic.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
People, something like that.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
There's it's based in some form of hate and racism
and how the government let them down. Right, So it's
a black mass shooter, It's like, okay, there might be
a different set of circumstances that led to this violence
on humanity, but there was so few details beyond that that,
of course, we couldn't really give you know, our listeners
(05:44):
any more than what you would have known from a
notification on your phone, you know, And I'm sure you
kind of had a similar initial reaction.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Q right. Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
The thing that I guess gives us an opportunity to
kind of look beyond the surface is the way that.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
This played out. He didn't survive.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Yeah, okay, so it kind of automatically gives everybody license
to deep dive into the why, into history, mental health,
all these things that typically get ignored if the gunman
turns out to be black, but that are always talked
about when the gunman is white.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Yea, and not.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Just a radicalization, but kind of as a justification. You
know that this person's having a really hard life in
a really bad day, and yeah, yeah, that's that's why
this thing probably happened. They never allow them to just
be a bad person, because bad people exist. They come
up with reasons to humanize them. And that's kind of cool,
except that never happens when the gunman or the alleged
(06:48):
criminal looks like you or I. They're just a criminal
and they're just a bad person. Of course, there, I
look where they came from look how they look well?
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Look how they look.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
Well?
Speaker 1 (06:59):
This gun men actually had a note in his pocket.
For those that haven't been following the story closely, so
without further ado, I'll share this from the Black Information Network.
A shooting in Park Avenue office in a Park Avenue
office building in New York left four people dead on Monday,
July twenty eighth. Per Huffington Post, the suspected gunman, thirty
four year old Shane Timura, shot himself after opening fire
(07:20):
in the high rise building on Park Avenue. Timura reportedly
left a note in his pocket linking football and chronic
traumatic encephalopathy or CTE, a brain disease associated with reported
head trauma that has been found in former players, to
the shooting. Authorities are investigating whether Tamura targeted the Park
Avenue building because it houses the NFL headquarters. Lee Commissioner
(07:43):
Roger Goodell confirmed that one NFL eployee was seriously injured,
though the shooting did not occur on the floor's housing
NFL offices. Timura had recently worked as a security guard
in Las Vegas, but was reportedly a star football player
at Golden Valley High School and Granad Hill Charter High
Schools in California. Quote could I have done more? Unquote
(08:07):
Walter Robi, Tomorrow's former coach at Granada Hills High School.
Question goes hon to say, could I have helped the kid?
Could I have reached out to him? Or could you
reach out to me? It's just a lot of things
I'm trying to process right now. In his note, Tomorrow
reportedly asked for his brain to be studied following his death,
so that gives at least some idea of what this
(08:31):
gunman might have been upset over. You know, a lot
of times, you know, shootings, mass shootings are indiscriminate, and
people just want to hurt crowds of people. Sometimes they
want to hurt specific groups of people, like an upstate
in Buffalo, or and they'll passle at the walmart. They
just want That shooter just wanted hurt Hispanic people. Of
(08:51):
course in Buffalo, he just wanted to hurt black people.
And there's you know, there's mass shootings against religious groups
and on and on and on. But this person, it
seems as though the NFL had had something to do
with this. So I'm going to let you kind of
teach us a little bit, or maybe not teach, but
kind of give some perspective maybe or your thoughts before
(09:15):
I continue, just because I know that you might know
a little bit more about the goings on with respect
to this issue than I do, or than most people do.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
So there's an interesting thing that happens at the intersection
of humanity and capitalism. And capitalism has taught us that
human beings are disposable.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
We are cogs in a machine.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
You'll see corporations lose, you know, middle management all the
way up to CEOs, and the business for that day continues.
The companies don't shut down, they don't cause a halt
to all operations. They might pause for a moment, and
the knowledge would happened, have somebody go out and do
a press conference, and then it's business as usual. Because
(10:00):
capitalism has shown that people humans are disposable. We're just
a part of the machine, and it's kind of profit
above everything. So it's an interesting thing that somebody who
never played in the NFL would target the NFL.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
To get what retribution and for who.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Right, even if this young man is saying he's suffered
from CTE, he didn't make it to the National Football
League so them being the victims or the target for
his crusade. It's a very interesting thing because it's kind
of on the behalf of everyone else.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Right.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
We know, studies have shown that there are people who
play in the National Football League who have been, you know,
posthumously diagnosed with CTE.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
So if he's some party who also you know, suffered
from ct and.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Has decided that that happened as a result of playing football,
you think he'd aim at at where football was for him,
where he played. But I think it's the desire to
make it to the NFL maybe would have made the
NFL the target, because I don't think it's just coincidence
that he had that letter ended up in that building,
(11:14):
even if on the wrong floor. I think it's it's
kind of easy to connect the dots where he may
have been aiming his distress or his anger or whatever.
But it's a part of a larger picture where it's
the system. And it seems that in a lot of cases,
and I won't say a lot, but there have been
(11:34):
some notable cases where people are aiming at systems, and unfortunately,
all of these systems, all these corporations are employed and
run by people and you can't aim at the logo
or just the building or just the marketing. Sometimes you
aim at the people who work for these corporations that
(11:56):
you consider the reasoning behind your currence circumstance. So we
don't know enough about this young man, yet the things
that we do know point to what seems like an
obvious target. But then you have to follow a logic
tree to what end and why, And that's the part
that we probably still have to do some more investigating on.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yeah, I'm looking at some details here, h And I
knew this that NYPD officer was shot and killed. There
was somebody from It's not here in my notes, but
(12:38):
I so I remember seeing. So don't hold this to
me because it's not in my notes. But someone from
either black Rock or black Stone.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Was killed.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Well I think black Stone had my executive.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
That that was it.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Okay, So that that makes sense that that that checks out.
And then this says that the note was kind of
like rambling and that the shooter had a history of
like mental health issues.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
So we just we live in a dangerous society.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Man. There are people that I was reading an argument
recently about people saying that gun restrictions make America less
safe and yeah, I know, but you know, I was
able to see kind of what the mental gymnastics look
like for people to kind of arrive at those conclusions.
And they're talking about, oh, we're we're less safe to
(13:36):
foreign invasion, you know, we're less you know, things that
are like, we're dealing with real problems right now today,
and they are concerned about hypotheticals that like foreign invasion
is there's a lot that a foreign power would have
to do to invade this country before they even got
to the citizens with the guns, right, and so we're
(13:57):
in a tough spot and it's hard to imagine how
we're going to get through it. But now it's time
to move on. And you know what, I'm not sure
how you want to do this one, Q, because, as
I mentioned when at the T's Q sent over this video.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Actually I'll do it this way. Let me play the video.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
This video comes from a creator named Sarah CPR at
Sarah's CPR, so you can go to her page on
I think this was from Instagram and.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
See the visual here.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
But she's basically having a conversation across the decades with herself,
so it's her voice both times. She's playing both parts,
but she's I think she's playing it like a banker
and then she's playing a person who is a wealthy man.
I think is what she's trying to pretend to be.
(14:54):
So she's a banker and a wealthy man, and you'll
be able to follow, I promise.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
But it's or, if not a banker, the person who
provides access to capital.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Okay, then we'll go something like that. Yeah, but you'll
be able to put it together as you listen. I
just want to paint a little bit of a picture here,
and then the timeline takes place from let's call it
the seventeen hundreds until present day. So listen along, and
then we'll get q S thoughts here.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
So this is a sketch I wrote called the history
of wealth throughout history.
Speaker 7 (15:28):
Enjoy.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
You've made quite a lot of money this year, So
you can buy ten slaves. Oh, well, that is good news.
And you can buy ten slaves. I'll take ten slaves.
Speaker 7 (15:38):
Then you made quite.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
A lot of money this year, sir, Oh that is
good news. Indeed, once again, congratulations, What can I buy?
You can buy twenty slaves? Well, then I'll take twenty slaves.
You can buy thirty slaves, slaves, buy forty slaves, forty slaves,
fifty slaves, sixty slave, sixty, seventy eighty ninety.
Speaker 7 (15:57):
You can't buy slaves anymore?
Speaker 6 (15:58):
What no mo slaves?
Speaker 7 (16:03):
Why not?
Speaker 6 (16:04):
Well, it's a law that's just been passed, so now
slaves are.
Speaker 7 (16:10):
Illegal in this country.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
Apologies, what's going to happen to my slaves?
Speaker 7 (16:16):
No more slaves.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
I'm just supposed to go out there to the market
to see Jamal and say, hey, Jamal, let's be friends.
Speaker 7 (16:22):
Even though I own you, you don't own him. Stop
reminding me.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
You could buy a steel company, you could buy a
mining factor, sheeps farm. That's fine, go ahead, buy that
yacht Miami super yacht. Okay, I'll take a buyer ch
my team. You could buy an election.
Speaker 7 (16:40):
What was that? You could buy an election?
Speaker 6 (16:43):
So oh well, that sounds very nice. I'll take one
of those.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
What else?
Speaker 7 (16:51):
You could buy a president?
Speaker 6 (16:53):
Yes, that sounds good.
Speaker 7 (16:54):
I'll take one of those.
Speaker 6 (16:57):
What else?
Speaker 5 (16:58):
You could buy your way into the government and control
all the levers of wealth throughout the nation, throughout the world.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
What else? Well, so that's pretty good. I think we
can stop there.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
There's something else and you know it. No, there's not
there's something more and you know it. I don't know
which you know what, why are you holding back? If
I own the government and the government makes the laws,
then I can buy whatever I want.
Speaker 7 (17:38):
Okay, fine, you can buy slaves. Yes, I knew it.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
So now, we don't typically pull stuff off the Internet
if it's not being well widely circulated. Right, So this creator,
she has close to a million followers. You know, I've
seen this video before, you know, but I saw it
a while ago, right, And Q and I had a
(18:06):
recent conversation talking specifically about the treatment of the immigrants
in this country, and Q made a comment that sounded
like that video, like, hey, you know this, what they're
doing seems like human servitude. And then Q sending me
(18:28):
the video saying, hey, what do you think of this?
I'm like, you know, we should probably talk about it.
So I want to get your thoughts here, Q, and
then you know, if there's any time, I'll kind of
offer a little bit, but you first.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
So it's an interesting thing that happens here where around
election time where we were really getting into the whys
and the why not and some of the things that
stood out to us with regard to potential outcomes with
the administration.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
That we ultimately ended up.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
With was something that I stated that I think people
viewed as hyperbole, and it was the idea that this
administration would bring slavery back. Two things became very, very
pronounced to me in that moment. You and I spoke
(19:22):
several times about the thirteenth Amendment. Yeah, thirteenth Amendment to
the US Constitution in eighteen sixty five ratified.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Abolished slavery.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
And involuntary service to accept as a punishment for a crime.
And that little token of information at the end is
why corporate prisons and the prison industrial system have always
been a thing. They're not just the reason that they're
(19:57):
so wildly profitable is because it's free labor. It's constitutionally
upheld slavery. But you figure out at a point that
you cannot simply arrest an entire population. That's how uprisings
and revolutions happen, which maybe we're on the brink of now.
(20:23):
I like that energy, so you figure out a different
way to do it. And here we are with threats
of mass deportation, and I think a couple of thousand
people have been deported, but way more than that have
been detained. Yeah, And there's a reason why way more
(20:46):
than that have not been deported. And there's a reason
why the FED is now offering to give financial assistance
to states who will construct and build more places to
howse those that are being detained. Because it was never
about legal or illegal immigration. It was about black and
(21:10):
brown people being controlled. And if we can make people
born into these uncontrollable circumstances criminals. Right, if you're born
black and brown by nature a criminal. If you're born
poor by nature a criminal. If we can put it
on paper that that's actually criminal. Right, your parents are
from another country, or you look like your parents are
(21:32):
from another country, because we can tell by looking at
you that you're bad, then that's criminal. And if you're
unemployed or poor, or live outside or sleep in the street,
also criminal. Now we can arrest and detain you, And
now that we have housing where we can detain you,
we can create industry and infrastructure for labor where we
(21:57):
pay you a dollar a day. Or we realize that
we're kind of crippling some very very fundamentally needed industries
like agriculture, like farming, like the hospitality industry, and we
go to the people that run these companies and we say, hey,
(22:17):
we know you got some people that work for you
that you know are illegals. So how about this. If
you assume responsibility for them and they only work for you,
they can stay. And if they go anywhere else and
they don't work for you anymore, and you've now decided
(22:38):
you won't assume responsibility for them, then we're going to
have to arrest them, detain them, and deport them. Now
it sounds like you might belong to the person you
work for.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
They have a lot of control over your life.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Yeah, they have all the control over your life, all
of it, if you want to stay in this country.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Yeah, alutely.
Speaker 7 (23:01):
So.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
If you belong to the person that you work for.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
And you don't have any autonomy and can't make any decisions,
and they also don't have to pay you.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
To I see what you're saying. I think I can
hear the argument against this. But the fact of the
matter is that any argument against your take there is
(23:38):
it ignores the fact that we're dealing with human beings.
And I think that's the thrust of what everyone who's
trying to say this creator. Again, I want to say
her name, to give her credit at Sarah's CPR. And indeed,
what you're saying so an argument against what you've just said. Again,
it has to be made in bad faith, and it
has to ignore the fact that we're dealing with human beings.
Broadcasting from the Civic Cipher studios. Welcome to the QR Code,
where we share perspectives, seek understanding, and shape outcomes. The
voice you are about to hear comes from the Q.
In the QR code, he is the man with the
cleanest edge up west of the Mississippi.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
He goes by the name of.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Q Ward there R in the QR code goes by
the name ramses Jah, and he be lying to y'all sometimes,
And that's okay because we forgive him and we love him.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
He's the reason this whole thing works. I just work here,
all right.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Well, we need you to stick around because we got
a lot to talk about today. Most notably, we're going
to be talking about Britain moving to potentially recognize a
Palestinian state unless Israel agrees to a ceasefire in Gaza.
This is a long standing story that we've been covering
(00:49):
quite a bit. A lot of people have a lot
of different opinions on it, so we're gonna examine this
latest development. We're also going to spend some time mulling
over a video that was released that kind of echoes
the sentiment that Q shared with me not too long ago,
and we're going to be asking the question, are they
(01:10):
really trying to bring back slavery? There are some people
with some compelling arguments that it looks like they are.
I mean, they kind of change the legalese and the framework.
But indeed, it looks like a duck, and it walks
like a duck, and it quacts like a duck. So
we're going to get into those weeds as well. And
(01:31):
also we are going to take some time, now that
more details have come out, to discuss the Park Avenue
mass shooting. You know, obviously you know, we're not reporters,
so I mean, we can say something happened, but once
the details come out, then we can kind of offer
some thoughts and connected with other things and so forth.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
And so.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
That's something that is obviously a country mourning the loss
of that life. But now that we have more details,
hopefully we'll be able to kind of see what exactly
happen up in there. But before we do that, it
is time, as always for a feel good feature, and
today's feel good future comes from USA today Beyonce Knowles Carter,
the woman whose Internet we all exist on. She concluded
(02:15):
her groundbreaking Cowboy Carter Tour in Las Vegas, making history
with the highest grossing country tour as she surpassed four
hundred million dollars in earnings. My little sister was there,
actually my little sister, and a ton of our friends
and family friends, both my little sisters. It was a
lot of people went to the show anyway. The Grammy
winning singer took her final bow on her Cowboy Carter
(02:36):
Tour and the Rodeo Chitlin Circuit Tour at Allegiant Stadium
in Vegas on July twenty sixth. She ended her run
with a bang, bringing out Destiny's Child, jay Z and
Shibouzzi for surprise performances. The concert signaled the end of
her Cowboy Carter era, a thirty two stop stadium tour
that spanned the US and Europe. The nine city stint
gross over four hundred million dollars, with attendance over one
(02:58):
and a half million in its three month run, according
to Live Nation. Billboard reported Beyonce's Cowboy Carter Tour is
the highest grossing country tour of all time and the
shortest tour in any genre to make over four hundred million.
Beyonce extends her record as the highest grossing black artist
of all time and the highest grossing R and B
artist of all time. With her Cowboy Carter Tour, she
also becomes the first woman and the first American act
(03:20):
to have two separate tours gross over four hundred million.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Bill Board reported, Coldplay.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Ed Sheeran, and The Rolling Stones are the only other
acts that have accomplished this feat. Beyonce's Renaissance World Tour
Act one reported the gross five hundred and eighty million
dollars in twenty twenty three. As fans know, Beyonce first
debuted the highly anticipated show at Sofi Stadium in Los
Angeles on April twenty eighth, with thirty nine songs on
the setlist. The tour proved to be a revolutionary spectacle
(03:45):
filled with fashion, different music genres, and most notably country music,
and cultural commentary as she challenged industry norms. So Beyonce
now has the crown of the highest grossing country tour
of all time, beating out Taylor Swift and George Right
and everybody. This is the highest grossing so that indeed
is a feel good feature for us around here because
(04:07):
a lot of people hate it on her Okay, heavy stuff.
The Park Avenue mass shooting. You know, before we paint
this picture, I'll tell you kind of how this came
across my desk. Chris Thompson, this show's producer, sent us
(04:27):
this story in a group chat that we have with
you know, the show's producer, and he immediately let us
know that the shooter was a black man, right, and
that's very unusual when it comes to mass shootings. Normally
(04:48):
it's white males that you know, do these types of
horrific acts. And this isn't the first black male mass shooter.
There have been others. Of course, this country has a
gun problem, but when there is a black mass shooter,
we don't get to go into the typical recesses of
(05:10):
the internet like we normally do. You know, typically we know,
you know, if it's a white male shooter, they've been radicalized,
they hate the government, they hate black people, they hate Hispanic.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
People, something like that.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
There's it's based in some form of hate and racism
and how the government let them down. Right, So it's
a black mass shooter, It's like, okay, there might be
a different set of circumstances that led to this violence
on humanity, but there was so few details beyond that that,
of course, we couldn't really give you know, our listeners
(05:44):
any more than what you would have known from a
notification on your phone, you know, And I'm sure you
kind of had a similar initial reaction.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Q right. Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
The thing that I guess gives us an opportunity to
kind of look beyond the surface is the way that.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
This played out. He didn't survive.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Yeah, okay, so it kind of automatically gives everybody license
to deep dive into the why, into history, mental health,
all these things that typically get ignored if the gunman
turns out to be black, but that are always talked
about when the gunman is white.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Yea, and not.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Just a radicalization, but kind of as a justification. You
know that this person's having a really hard life in
a really bad day, and yeah, yeah, that's that's why
this thing probably happened. They never allow them to just
be a bad person, because bad people exist. They come
up with reasons to humanize them. And that's kind of cool,
except that never happens when the gunman or the alleged
(06:48):
criminal looks like you or I. They're just a criminal
and they're just a bad person. Of course, there, I
look where they came from look how they look well?
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Look how they look.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
Well?
Speaker 1 (06:59):
This gun men actually had a note in his pocket.
For those that haven't been following the story closely, so
without further ado, I'll share this from the Black Information Network.
A shooting in Park Avenue office in a Park Avenue
office building in New York left four people dead on Monday,
July twenty eighth. Per Huffington Post, the suspected gunman, thirty
four year old Shane Timura, shot himself after opening fire
(07:20):
in the high rise building on Park Avenue. Timura reportedly
left a note in his pocket linking football and chronic
traumatic encephalopathy or CTE, a brain disease associated with reported
head trauma that has been found in former players, to
the shooting. Authorities are investigating whether Tamura targeted the Park
Avenue building because it houses the NFL headquarters. Lee Commissioner
(07:43):
Roger Goodell confirmed that one NFL eployee was seriously injured,
though the shooting did not occur on the floor's housing
NFL offices. Timura had recently worked as a security guard
in Las Vegas, but was reportedly a star football player
at Golden Valley High School and Granad Hill Charter High
Schools in California. Quote could I have done more? Unquote
(08:07):
Walter Robi, Tomorrow's former coach at Granada Hills High School.
Question goes hon to say, could I have helped the kid?
Could I have reached out to him? Or could you
reach out to me? It's just a lot of things
I'm trying to process right now. In his note, Tomorrow
reportedly asked for his brain to be studied following his death,
so that gives at least some idea of what this
(08:31):
gunman might have been upset over. You know, a lot
of times, you know, shootings, mass shootings are indiscriminate, and
people just want to hurt crowds of people. Sometimes they
want to hurt specific groups of people, like an upstate
in Buffalo, or and they'll passle at the walmart. They
just want That shooter just wanted hurt Hispanic people. Of
(08:51):
course in Buffalo, he just wanted to hurt black people.
And there's you know, there's mass shootings against religious groups
and on and on and on. But this person, it
seems as though the NFL had had something to do
with this. So I'm going to let you kind of
teach us a little bit, or maybe not teach, but
kind of give some perspective maybe or your thoughts before
(09:15):
I continue, just because I know that you might know
a little bit more about the goings on with respect
to this issue than I do, or than most people do.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
So there's an interesting thing that happens at the intersection
of humanity and capitalism. And capitalism has taught us that
human beings are disposable.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
We are cogs in a machine.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
You'll see corporations lose, you know, middle management all the
way up to CEOs, and the business for that day continues.
The companies don't shut down, they don't cause a halt
to all operations. They might pause for a moment, and
the knowledge would happened, have somebody go out and do
a press conference, and then it's business as usual. Because
(10:00):
capitalism has shown that people humans are disposable. We're just
a part of the machine, and it's kind of profit
above everything. So it's an interesting thing that somebody who
never played in the NFL would target the NFL.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
To get what retribution and for who.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Right, even if this young man is saying he's suffered
from CTE, he didn't make it to the National Football
League so them being the victims or the target for
his crusade. It's a very interesting thing because it's kind
of on the behalf of everyone else.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Right.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
We know, studies have shown that there are people who
play in the National Football League who have been, you know,
posthumously diagnosed with CTE.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
So if he's some party who also you know, suffered
from ct and.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Has decided that that happened as a result of playing football,
you think he'd aim at at where football was for him,
where he played. But I think it's the desire to
make it to the NFL maybe would have made the
NFL the target, because I don't think it's just coincidence
that he had that letter ended up in that building,
(11:14):
even if on the wrong floor. I think it's it's
kind of easy to connect the dots where he may
have been aiming his distress or his anger or whatever.
But it's a part of a larger picture where it's
the system. And it seems that in a lot of cases,
and I won't say a lot, but there have been
(11:34):
some notable cases where people are aiming at systems, and unfortunately,
all of these systems, all these corporations are employed and
run by people and you can't aim at the logo
or just the building or just the marketing. Sometimes you
aim at the people who work for these corporations that
(11:56):
you consider the reasoning behind your currence circumstance. So we
don't know enough about this young man, yet the things
that we do know point to what seems like an
obvious target. But then you have to follow a logic
tree to what end and why, And that's the part
that we probably still have to do some more investigating on.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yeah, I'm looking at some details here, h And I
knew this that NYPD officer was shot and killed. There
was somebody from It's not here in my notes, but
(12:38):
I so I remember seeing. So don't hold this to
me because it's not in my notes. But someone from
either black Rock or black Stone.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Was killed.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Well I think black Stone had my executive.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
That that was it.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Okay, So that that makes sense that that that checks out.
And then this says that the note was kind of
like rambling and that the shooter had a history of
like mental health issues.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
So we just we live in a dangerous society.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Man. There are people that I was reading an argument
recently about people saying that gun restrictions make America less
safe and yeah, I know, but you know, I was
able to see kind of what the mental gymnastics look
like for people to kind of arrive at those conclusions.
And they're talking about, oh, we're we're less safe to
(13:36):
foreign invasion, you know, we're less you know, things that
are like, we're dealing with real problems right now today,
and they are concerned about hypotheticals that like foreign invasion
is there's a lot that a foreign power would have
to do to invade this country before they even got
to the citizens with the guns, right, and so we're
(13:57):
in a tough spot and it's hard to imagine how
we're going to get through it. But now it's time
to move on. And you know what, I'm not sure
how you want to do this one, Q, because, as
I mentioned when at the T's Q sent over this video.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Actually I'll do it this way. Let me play the video.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
This video comes from a creator named Sarah CPR at
Sarah's CPR, so you can go to her page on
I think this was from Instagram and.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
See the visual here.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
But she's basically having a conversation across the decades with herself,
so it's her voice both times. She's playing both parts,
but she's I think she's playing it like a banker
and then she's playing a person who is a wealthy man.
I think is what she's trying to pretend to be.
(14:54):
So she's a banker and a wealthy man, and you'll
be able to follow, I promise.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
But it's or, if not a banker, the person who
provides access to capital.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Okay, then we'll go something like that. Yeah, but you'll
be able to put it together as you listen. I
just want to paint a little bit of a picture here,
and then the timeline takes place from let's call it
the seventeen hundreds until present day. So listen along, and
then we'll get q S thoughts here.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
So this is a sketch I wrote called the history
of wealth throughout history.
Speaker 7 (15:28):
Enjoy.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
You've made quite a lot of money this year, So
you can buy ten slaves. Oh, well, that is good news.
And you can buy ten slaves. I'll take ten slaves.
Speaker 7 (15:38):
Then you made quite.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
A lot of money this year, sir, Oh that is
good news. Indeed, once again, congratulations, What can I buy?
You can buy twenty slaves? Well, then I'll take twenty slaves.
You can buy thirty slaves, slaves, buy forty slaves, forty slaves,
fifty slaves, sixty slave, sixty, seventy eighty ninety.
Speaker 7 (15:57):
You can't buy slaves anymore?
Speaker 6 (15:58):
What no mo slaves?
Speaker 7 (16:03):
Why not?
Speaker 6 (16:04):
Well, it's a law that's just been passed, so now
slaves are.
Speaker 7 (16:10):
Illegal in this country.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
Apologies, what's going to happen to my slaves?
Speaker 7 (16:16):
No more slaves.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
I'm just supposed to go out there to the market
to see Jamal and say, hey, Jamal, let's be friends.
Speaker 7 (16:22):
Even though I own you, you don't own him. Stop
reminding me.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
You could buy a steel company, you could buy a
mining factor, sheeps farm. That's fine, go ahead, buy that
yacht Miami super yacht. Okay, I'll take a buyer ch
my team. You could buy an election.
Speaker 7 (16:40):
What was that? You could buy an election?
Speaker 6 (16:43):
So oh well, that sounds very nice. I'll take one
of those.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
What else?
Speaker 7 (16:51):
You could buy a president?
Speaker 6 (16:53):
Yes, that sounds good.
Speaker 7 (16:54):
I'll take one of those.
Speaker 6 (16:57):
What else?
Speaker 5 (16:58):
You could buy your way into the government and control
all the levers of wealth throughout the nation, throughout the world.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
What else? Well, so that's pretty good. I think we
can stop there.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
There's something else and you know it. No, there's not
there's something more and you know it. I don't know
which you know what, why are you holding back? If
I own the government and the government makes the laws,
then I can buy whatever I want.
Speaker 7 (17:38):
Okay, fine, you can buy slaves. Yes, I knew it.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
So now, we don't typically pull stuff off the Internet
if it's not being well widely circulated. Right, So this creator,
she has close to a million followers. You know, I've
seen this video before, you know, but I saw it
a while ago, right, And Q and I had a
(18:06):
recent conversation talking specifically about the treatment of the immigrants
in this country, and Q made a comment that sounded
like that video, like, hey, you know this, what they're
doing seems like human servitude. And then Q sending me
(18:28):
the video saying, hey, what do you think of this?
I'm like, you know, we should probably talk about it.
So I want to get your thoughts here, Q, and
then you know, if there's any time, I'll kind of
offer a little bit, but you first.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
So it's an interesting thing that happens here where around
election time where we were really getting into the whys
and the why not and some of the things that
stood out to us with regard to potential outcomes with
the administration.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
That we ultimately ended up.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
With was something that I stated that I think people
viewed as hyperbole, and it was the idea that this
administration would bring slavery back. Two things became very, very
pronounced to me in that moment. You and I spoke
(19:22):
several times about the thirteenth Amendment. Yeah, thirteenth Amendment to
the US Constitution in eighteen sixty five ratified.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Abolished slavery.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
And involuntary service to accept as a punishment for a crime.
And that little token of information at the end is
why corporate prisons and the prison industrial system have always
been a thing. They're not just the reason that they're
(19:57):
so wildly profitable is because it's free labor. It's constitutionally
upheld slavery. But you figure out at a point that
you cannot simply arrest an entire population. That's how uprisings
and revolutions happen, which maybe we're on the brink of now.
(20:23):
I like that energy, so you figure out a different
way to do it. And here we are with threats
of mass deportation, and I think a couple of thousand
people have been deported, but way more than that have
been detained. Yeah, And there's a reason why way more
(20:46):
than that have not been deported. And there's a reason
why the FED is now offering to give financial assistance
to states who will construct and build more places to
howse those that are being detained. Because it was never
about legal or illegal immigration. It was about black and
(21:10):
brown people being controlled. And if we can make people
born into these uncontrollable circumstances criminals. Right, if you're born
black and brown by nature a criminal. If you're born
poor by nature a criminal. If we can put it
on paper that that's actually criminal. Right, your parents are
from another country, or you look like your parents are
(21:32):
from another country, because we can tell by looking at
you that you're bad, then that's criminal. And if you're
unemployed or poor, or live outside or sleep in the street,
also criminal. Now we can arrest and detain you, And
now that we have housing where we can detain you,
we can create industry and infrastructure for labor where we
(21:57):
pay you a dollar a day. Or we realize that
we're kind of crippling some very very fundamentally needed industries
like agriculture, like farming, like the hospitality industry, and we
go to the people that run these companies and we say, hey,
(22:17):
we know you got some people that work for you
that you know are illegals. So how about this. If
you assume responsibility for them and they only work for you,
they can stay. And if they go anywhere else and
they don't work for you anymore, and you've now decided
(22:38):
you won't assume responsibility for them, then we're going to
have to arrest them, detain them, and deport them. Now
it sounds like you might belong to the person you
work for.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
They have a lot of control over your life.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Yeah, they have all the control over your life, all
of it, if you want to stay in this country.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Yeah, alutely.
Speaker 7 (23:01):
So.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
If you belong to the person that you work for.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
And you don't have any autonomy and can't make any decisions,
and they also don't have to pay you.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
To I see what you're saying. I think I can
hear the argument against this. But the fact of the
matter is that any argument against your take there is
(23:38):
it ignores the fact that we're dealing with human beings.
And I think that's the thrust of what everyone who's
trying to say this creator. Again, I want to say
her name, to give her credit at Sarah's CPR. And indeed,
what you're saying so an argument against what you've just said. Again,
it has to be made in bad faith, and it
has to ignore the fact that we're dealing with human beings.
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