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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Broadcasting from the Civic Cipher Studios. Welcome to the QR Code,
where we share perspective, seek understanding, and shape outcomes. The
man you are about to hear from is a man
who might only post on Instagram one time a year,
but I promise his stories go crazy. He is the
Q and the QR code.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
He goes by the name of q Ward, you know,
the voice you just heard, finds different ways to bully
me throughout the year, and making fun of how infrequent
I post on Instagram is one of those ways.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
He is the R in n QR code. He goes
by the name Rams's Jah, And we need to just
stick around a little. Later on in the show, we're
going to be talking of Actually the Who show, we're
gonna be talking about some crazy stuff going on in
the country. But a little later on the show, we're
going to talk about an incident where police arrested a
twelve year old black boy for recklessly driving his bicycle. Now,
(00:53):
there's a video of this that's going viral, so we're
gonna have to paint that picture a little bit more
fully for you. But I think it's going to give
us some insight into the black experience, what it means
to be a black parent in this country, and I
think also the state of the country under Donald Trump's presidency.
Prior to that, we're going to be talking about how
(01:16):
the government has declared war on US cities. This will
be during Qward's clapback. Prior to that, we're going to
be talking about an incident where a judge's home became
engulfed in fire after a Stephen Miller tweet. So at present,
we have to say that it's an interesting coincidence while
it's being investigated, but there are many people who are
(01:39):
speculating it is a calculated, targeted attack on a judge
in the country. And we're going to start to show
off talking about what's going on in the culture and
discussing the wrongful accusations of Kiren Lacy that led to
his death.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
So yeah, a lot to stick around for.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
But as always, we like to start off show with
a feel good feature, and today's feel good feature comes
from the Black Information Network. Former President Former President Barack
Obama is viewed more favorably by the American people than
current President Donald Trump, a new poll finds. According to
the poll released by Marquette University Law School, Fifty seven
percent of Americans view Obama favorably, while forty percent view
(02:21):
him unfavorably, a seventeen point net favorability. Trump, however, is
viewed favorably by just forty two percent, with fifty seven
percent viewing him unfavorably, a negative fifteen net favorability. The
Marquette Law Pole compares several other presidents, including Ronald Reagan,
who received the highest marks with a fifty eight percent
(02:44):
favorability rating and thirty percent unfavorability, which nets to a
twenty eight twenty eight point rating. Former President George H. W.
Bush had a plus seventeen rating, and Bill Clinton and
George W. Bush both scored plus eight. Former President Joe
Biden had the lowest favorability of all presidents surveyed, with
a minus twenty four net favorability. Political analyst Mina Bose,
(03:06):
dean at Hofstra University, said obama sustained popularity stems from
his personal appeal, inspirational rhetoric, and unanticipated success in the
two thousand and eight presidential race. Quote the promise of
hope and change are defining features of the Obama presidential
campaign and still influence assessments of his presidency unquote bos
Toad Newsweek. The poll surveyed over one thousand adults nationwide
(03:27):
between September fifth and twenty fourth. As a twenty twenty
six midterms approach, voters who once backed Obama and later
swung to Trump are expected to play a decisive role.
So I bet that is a bit of a blow
to the ego of the current president, and whenever a
(03:48):
reality check hits them, it makes me a little bit
happier than I would have been otherwise, any thoughts.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
I don't know the efficacy of a poll that has
Ronald Reagan as the yeah, right, that was a later president, Ever,
I have to question so sure that's fair?
Speaker 3 (04:06):
All right?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Okay, So I'm going to just put this out there.
I heard of Kieran Lacey maybe ten Kyen Lacy, Am
I saying right? And Kyen Lacy about ten minutes before
our production meeting, our pre production meeting, Q and I
for those that might not know, we have a pre
(04:31):
production meeting before the show where we kind of get
some additional data and flesh off the stories, verify stuff,
that sort of thing. And about ten minutes before we
had that meeting, I heard about Kyen Lacy asked you
if you'd heard about him, and he said, yes, he was.
He's no longer alive, an excellent athlete. And this is
(04:52):
a story that a lot of people are talking about.
And you know, we start off, you know, this is
QR code. So the C and code stands for culture.
The o's opinions, the D is dialogue is entertainment, and
so we like to talk about what's going on in
the culture. And sometimes while I like to think of
myself as being tapped in, sometimes I have to get
(05:13):
plugged in. And this is one such incident. This is
a very very sad story I'm about to share with you,
but I think that it gives us some insight into
some of those invisible forces and factors that we try
to explain to non black people that exist in our
(05:35):
part and parcel to black life in America. That you know,
people oftentimes think that we're crazi or making it up,
or having a victim mentality or that sort of thing.
So buckle up for this one, all right. It's from
the b I in the Louisiana Democratic Party is calling
for accountability over what they say we're wrongful accusations against
late LSU football player Kyrien Lacy.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Per ww L.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Twenty four, died by suicide in April following a police
pursuit in Houston, two days before he was scheduled to
appear before a grand jury on charges of negligent homicide
and felony hit and run. The charges stemmed from a
December twenty twenty four crash in Louisiana that killed seventy
eight year old Herman Hall. In January, the Louisiana State
Police announced that an investigation into the crash had determined
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Lacey was driving recklessly, passing multiple vehicles at high speeds
in a no passing zone. Police alleged that Lacey's actions
forced a truck to break suddenly, causing a chain reaction
that ended with another vehicle striking Hall's vehicle. Authorities claimed
Lacey left the scene without stopping or calling for help,
and arrest warrant was issued for Lacey, leading to his
(06:44):
leading to his invitation to the NFL Combine being revoked. Okay,
I'm starting to put it together now, because that's probably
the rest of his life right there, all right. On
April eighth, the Harris County Sheriff's office said Lacey fled
from a constable and crashed his vehicle after several miles.
Deputies later found that he had shot himself before the
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car came to a stop.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Poor Baby.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
New evidence presented by Lacy's attorney, Matthew Or on Saturday,
October fourth, raised questions about the allegations against Lacey. Or
He shared surveillance video that showed Lacey's car was ninety
two point three yards behind the Hall's vehicle and seventy
two point six yards behind the other cars involved at
the time of impact quote Kyra and Lacy passed four vehicles.
(07:36):
No one disputes that, unquote, or He said, goes on
to say, but at the moment of impact, he was
back in his lane ninety two point three yards behind
mister Hall's vehicle. That is not how this story was
ever painted. Never unquote. Or He also shared by camera
footage of a Louisiana State trooper appearing to instruct a
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witness on what to include in their report. Or He
said the evidence points to misleading actions by law enforcement
and a rush to judgment. In response to the evidence,
the Louisiana State Police defended their investigation into the incident.
Quote LSP conducted a detailed investigation with the assistance of
crash reconstruction experts. The findings were presented to the seventeenth
(08:18):
Judicial Court District Court, which approved an arrest warrant based
on the evidence collected. As with all investigations leading to arrest,
the subjects of the investigation are presumed innocent until proven
guilty in a court of law. On Saturday, Louisiana Democratic
Party Executive Director Dadrius Lanis released a statement calling the
case deeply troubling and an example of how false reporting
(08:41):
by some in law enforcement can destroy the lives and damage,
sorry destroy lives in damage public trust. The party is
urging Attorney General Liz Murrill to launch an independent investigation
and how to how the case was handled. The party,
with the support of the Lacey families, also backing the
creation of the Lacey Law, proposed legislation aimed at penalizing
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officers or agencies who knowingly misrepresent evidence and protecting the
rights of falsely accused citizens. I want to give you
all the time in the world, Q talk to me
about this and what you know about this, and you know.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Well before we even get into the specific nuances of
this specific story. There's something in that article that troubles
me because it's something that I think we all assume
happens but never does according to data. And as people
(09:37):
know to listen to this show, Ramses and I spend
a lot of time digging into data so as to
not make fools of ourselves. And we talk about these
things that we're very passionate about so that we're not
all emotion and all passion and all HOWQ and Ramses feel,
but we have to infuse what's the actual truth. It
spoke about things like this, proper investigations when evidence shows
(10:03):
that people rush to judgment, coherce witnesses into falsifying statements
and creating their own testimonies to fit the story they've
already told themselves, and it leads to loss of life.
But this article mentioned loss of public trust, and ramsays,
(10:25):
we talk about this a lot. I don't know that
that part ever happens. We had a discussion with a
group of people in Washington, d C. At the Congressional
Black Caucus Leadership Conference that thought spending more money on
police brings crime down and makes community safer. And they
(10:47):
said that to us not just with their chest, but
with as many curse words as that you can include
as well. And they said it with passion because they
thought they were correct. So it seems that no matter
how often this happens, and trust me, it is often,
you never get a statement where the police department in question,
(11:08):
even after proven to have done everything wrong, says even
you know what, we didn't do the right thing this
time and we're sorry. Nope, they tripled down on the
afficacy of their investigation and that they did the right
thing and that the evidence showed that they were right,
even when the evidence that they're talking about is finally
presented to the public and shows that they.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Were absolutely wrong.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
This evidence that they're saying, per their detailed investigation that
was presented to the judicial court that got them the
warrant to arrest this young man, the same evidence that
showed him one hundred yards away from the crash, is
that the same evidence that you guys are now talking
about justified the decisions that you made, the warrant that
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you pursued, the charges that you led me against this
young man. Soh again, falsely accusing citizens leading to someone
losing their life should erode public trusts, but we've learned
(12:16):
over and over again that it seems to never do that.
This young man was most likely, or at least likely,
to change the financial future for generations to come in
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his family, going about life the best way that he could,
and because he knew he was up against a system
that was designed to destroy him. Because he realized, oh
my god, even though I didn't do this, they're going
to pin this on me and it's going to work.
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He watched his dreams dissolving in front of him and
felt like there was nothing he could do. Because that's
how this system does. It eats us, It spits us out,
It stomps on us. It doesn't care about our dreams.
It tries to ignore our past that it created, make
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us out to be pretend to be victims who are
playing the race card as this system for centuries has
destroyed us and asked us to be grateful for being
present while being destroyed. A dream was taken away from
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this young man and his family, and even after it's
proven that that's what happened, they doubled down that they
did the right thing. This is America. We have to
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move on.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I want to, I do want to follow up though,
see if this Lacey law turns into something because the
police lying and lying and lying and lying and lying
with no accountability does create a blique reality for a
lot of black people, specifically with the with the.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Louis Would the Louisiana legislators have to say yes for
this Lacy law to come.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
And I know where you're going with that, Okay, I'm
just yeah, I know where you're going with that, all right.
So the next story, this is about a judge's home
that was that burst into flames after a tweet. This
is another article that I want to get into, so
(15:03):
allow me to paint the picture. This is from People.
The home of a South Carolina Circuit Court judge who
recently ruled against President Donald Trump burned to the ground
on Saturday, October fourth. The authorities are cautioning against jumping
to conclusions while an investigation continues. Judge Diane Goudstein was
walking her dogs at the time her at Disto Beach
(15:26):
house burst into flames, according to the.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Post and Courier.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
However, other members of her family inside the home, including
her husband, decorated Vietnam War veteran and former Democratic State
senator Arnold Goudstein reportedly sustained serious injuries after jumping from
windows and balconies to avoid the blaze. South Carolina Chief
Justice John Kittridge initially told fitz News that the fire
(15:52):
appeared to have been caused by an explosion, though officials
had not corroborated his claim or determined whether the fire
was accidental or arsoon a quote. Until that determination is made,
State Law Enforcement Division Chief Mark Keel has alerted local
law enforcement to provide extra patrols and security unquote.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
He said. Goudstein, sixty nine, had received death.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Threats in recent weeks, multiple sources told local news outlet Fitznews,
adding a layer of suspicion to the online conversation surrounding
the fire. Last month, Goudstein ruled to temporarily block the
South Carolina Election Commission from releasing voter files to the
Department of Justice as part of Trump's March executive order
aimed at preventing non citizens from registering to vote, something
(16:38):
that is already illegal, and her ruling, Goudstein said that
turning over the data to the Trump administration could cause
immediate and irreparable damage to voter's right to privacy. Her
decision was later overturned by South Carolina's state Supreme Court
and publicly criticized by the state's Republican governor. Henry McMaster
and DOJ official are meet Dylan. On the afternoon of
(17:02):
October fourth, the same day that Goudstein's house burned down,
the White House, Homeland Security Advisor Stephen Miller posted to
X quote the issue before us now is very simple
and clear. There is a large and growing movement of
left wing terrorism in this country, is well organized and funded,
and it is shielded by far left Democrat judges, prosecutors,
(17:24):
and attorneys general. Goes on to say the only remedy
is to use legitimate state power to dismantle terrorism and
terror networks. So I think I'm going to say what
(17:44):
I think a lot of people are thinking. The astounding
part about this is that we know who calls for
the terror, who calls for the violence, who calls for
the action. We know where it comes from. I can
look at a tweet right here from Steven Miller. I
just read it where he's stoking using language to stoke
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the most extreme facets of this country. The most extreme
facets of this country are on the right full stop.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
That is not up for debate. It is a fact.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Those are the people with the guns, and they're proud
about the fact that they have the guns. Right, everybody
on the left is kumbaya, roses and butterflies and all
that sort of stuff, rainbows, peace, love and inclusivity. On
the right there that's where the white supremacist and the
Nazis and all those like extreme ideas live. We have
(18:47):
Donald Trump, Donald Trump famously, you know, I could shoot
somebody in the middle of Times Square and wouldn't lose
a single vote, you know, get that, sob off the
field field, you know, of course January sixth, you know,
all that sort of stuff. They're like violent language, and
(19:08):
then you know, of course his crowd responds, hang, Mike
Pence comes to mind, and on and on and on,
and there's plenty of incidents documented that, you know, stem
from right wing rhetoric. They energize and galvanize their base
to take action. Left wing folks tell the truth, you know, hey,
(19:35):
this is authoritarianism. This is what the Nazis did. Elon
Musk's salute is a Nazi salute. That is what the
Nazis did. That is factual Nazis did the same maneuver. Okay,
that is not calling anyone to take action against that man.
And so what we end up with, and the thing
(19:56):
that's astounding here is that people like Stephen Miller and
Trump get to point the finger to the left and say,
look what they're doing, ignoring the fact that they've done
it longer, done it better, and have done it. And
it's not even coming from the left. Right now, you
(20:18):
could argue that there are some extreme people on the left.
Of course, there's extreme people everywhere, but I think the
hyperfixation on trans people, and you know, the assassination of
Charlie Kirk gave them enough of a narrative to pedal
to their base to where it seems plausible. You know
(20:41):
who would try to assassinate Donald Trump if not people
from the left. No, those were right wing people that
were trying to assassinate Donald Trump. They would still never
vote for a Joe Biden or a Kamala Harris.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
And the fact that we have to not only deal
with this reality where houses get burned, but also deal
with the fact that these people control the airwaves now,
they control every lever of government. They've been exceptionally dishonest
at every single point under the premise of saving their country,
and they get to lie about the nature of their responsibility.
(21:17):
Meanwhile shifting the full weight of the responsibility to the
facet of the country that is in no way responsible
for maybe not in no way but minimally responsible for it.
And that's me just being giving as much grace as
I can is the astounding part. Now I've said my piece, Q,
the rest of this army is yours.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Two things can be true.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
There's a generalization fallacy that you use that I have
to call out because we have to be fair always please.
Everyone on the left is in rainbows and butterflies, and
we said that, so it's important to you. Said everyone
on the left is right, Oh yeah, and everyone on
the right is extreme would be a generalization fallacy which
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I don't want us to subscribe to. However, what Rams
is said that is fact, is that the right is
far more extreme and responsible for far more extreme violence
than all other groups combined. Then all other groups combined
by like double by more than double, or other groups
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combined based on the amount of extreme violent incidents, and
then to throw up their hands like, hey, we're against
that too. I know we've been asking for it for
all year. I know when we get on TV and
when we tweet, we tell you that the other side
is the enemy within, and that we call them terrorists,
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and that we tell you you should do something about it.
You know, that's not what we meant, right even though
it's what we keep saying, even though it's what we
keep asking for, even though we keep calling for even
when we say we'll meet you there and help you
do it, that's not you know, that's not what we meant,
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because you know, the other side is the violence side, Ramses.
The other side is the extreme side. You didn't see
the guy with the bullhorn and the afro. He had
some nice glasses on. He had a baby with him,
His brother was with him, he also had a baby
with them. You didn't see all the violence that they
planned to do without any weapons, with the signs they had.
Did you see the violence that they intended to do
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when they marched down the streets peacefully together with their
children with the tattoo that said I love you. You
didn't see the violence there that they planned to do.
It was them. It's always them. They're the bad people
with the brown skin and the curly hair. You didn't.
You can't look at him and tell that they're bad.
You didn't hear the accent. You didn't hear the Spanish.
(23:53):
You didn't see them work in their construction job. You
didn't Oh wait, that's oh
Broadcasting from the Civic Cipher Studios. Welcome to the QR Code,
where we share perspective, seek understanding, and shape outcomes. The
man you are about to hear from is a man
who might only post on Instagram one time a year,
but I promise his stories go crazy. He is the
Q and the QR code.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
He goes by the name of q Ward, you know,
the voice you just heard, finds different ways to bully
me throughout the year, and making fun of how infrequent
I post on Instagram is one of those ways.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
He is the R in n QR code. He goes
by the name Rams's Jah, And we need to just
stick around a little. Later on in the show, we're
going to be talking of Actually the Who show, we're
gonna be talking about some crazy stuff going on in
the country. But a little later on the show, we're
going to talk about an incident where police arrested a
twelve year old black boy for recklessly driving his bicycle. Now,
(00:53):
there's a video of this that's going viral, so we're
gonna have to paint that picture a little bit more
fully for you. But I think it's going to give
us some insight into the black experience, what it means
to be a black parent in this country, and I
think also the state of the country under Donald Trump's presidency.
Prior to that, we're going to be talking about how
(01:16):
the government has declared war on US cities. This will
be during Qward's clapback. Prior to that, we're going to
be talking about an incident where a judge's home became
engulfed in fire after a Stephen Miller tweet. So at present,
we have to say that it's an interesting coincidence while
it's being investigated, but there are many people who are
(01:39):
speculating it is a calculated, targeted attack on a judge
in the country. And we're going to start to show
off talking about what's going on in the culture and
discussing the wrongful accusations of Kiren Lacy that led to
his death.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
So yeah, a lot to stick around for.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
But as always, we like to start off show with
a feel good feature, and today's feel good feature comes
from the Black Information Network. Former President Former President Barack
Obama is viewed more favorably by the American people than
current President Donald Trump, a new poll finds. According to
the poll released by Marquette University Law School, Fifty seven
percent of Americans view Obama favorably, while forty percent view
(02:21):
him unfavorably, a seventeen point net favorability. Trump, however, is
viewed favorably by just forty two percent, with fifty seven
percent viewing him unfavorably, a negative fifteen net favorability. The
Marquette Law Pole compares several other presidents, including Ronald Reagan,
who received the highest marks with a fifty eight percent
(02:44):
favorability rating and thirty percent unfavorability, which nets to a
twenty eight twenty eight point rating. Former President George H. W.
Bush had a plus seventeen rating, and Bill Clinton and
George W. Bush both scored plus eight. Former President Joe
Biden had the lowest favorability of all presidents surveyed, with
a minus twenty four net favorability. Political analyst Mina Bose,
(03:06):
dean at Hofstra University, said obama sustained popularity stems from
his personal appeal, inspirational rhetoric, and unanticipated success in the
two thousand and eight presidential race. Quote the promise of
hope and change are defining features of the Obama presidential
campaign and still influence assessments of his presidency unquote bos
Toad Newsweek. The poll surveyed over one thousand adults nationwide
(03:27):
between September fifth and twenty fourth. As a twenty twenty
six midterms approach, voters who once backed Obama and later
swung to Trump are expected to play a decisive role.
So I bet that is a bit of a blow
to the ego of the current president, and whenever a
(03:48):
reality check hits them, it makes me a little bit
happier than I would have been otherwise, any thoughts.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
I don't know the efficacy of a poll that has
Ronald Reagan as the yeah, right, that was a later president, Ever,
I have to question so sure that's fair?
Speaker 3 (04:06):
All right?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Okay, So I'm going to just put this out there.
I heard of Kieran Lacey maybe ten Kyen Lacy, Am
I saying right? And Kyen Lacy about ten minutes before
our production meeting, our pre production meeting, Q and I
for those that might not know, we have a pre
(04:31):
production meeting before the show where we kind of get
some additional data and flesh off the stories, verify stuff,
that sort of thing. And about ten minutes before we
had that meeting, I heard about Kyen Lacy asked you
if you'd heard about him, and he said, yes, he was.
He's no longer alive, an excellent athlete. And this is
(04:52):
a story that a lot of people are talking about.
And you know, we start off, you know, this is
QR code. So the C and code stands for culture.
The o's opinions, the D is dialogue is entertainment, and
so we like to talk about what's going on in
the culture. And sometimes while I like to think of
myself as being tapped in, sometimes I have to get
(05:13):
plugged in. And this is one such incident. This is
a very very sad story I'm about to share with you,
but I think that it gives us some insight into
some of those invisible forces and factors that we try
to explain to non black people that exist in our
(05:35):
part and parcel to black life in America. That you know,
people oftentimes think that we're crazi or making it up,
or having a victim mentality or that sort of thing.
So buckle up for this one, all right. It's from
the b I in the Louisiana Democratic Party is calling
for accountability over what they say we're wrongful accusations against
late LSU football player Kyrien Lacy.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Per ww L.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Twenty four, died by suicide in April following a police
pursuit in Houston, two days before he was scheduled to
appear before a grand jury on charges of negligent homicide
and felony hit and run. The charges stemmed from a
December twenty twenty four crash in Louisiana that killed seventy
eight year old Herman Hall. In January, the Louisiana State
Police announced that an investigation into the crash had determined
(06:23):
Lacey was driving recklessly, passing multiple vehicles at high speeds
in a no passing zone. Police alleged that Lacey's actions
forced a truck to break suddenly, causing a chain reaction
that ended with another vehicle striking Hall's vehicle. Authorities claimed
Lacey left the scene without stopping or calling for help,
and arrest warrant was issued for Lacey, leading to his
(06:44):
leading to his invitation to the NFL Combine being revoked. Okay,
I'm starting to put it together now, because that's probably
the rest of his life right there, all right. On
April eighth, the Harris County Sheriff's office said Lacey fled
from a constable and crashed his vehicle after several miles.
Deputies later found that he had shot himself before the
(07:07):
car came to a stop.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Poor Baby.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
New evidence presented by Lacy's attorney, Matthew Or on Saturday,
October fourth, raised questions about the allegations against Lacey. Or
He shared surveillance video that showed Lacey's car was ninety
two point three yards behind the Hall's vehicle and seventy
two point six yards behind the other cars involved at
the time of impact quote Kyra and Lacy passed four vehicles.
(07:36):
No one disputes that, unquote, or He said, goes on
to say, but at the moment of impact, he was
back in his lane ninety two point three yards behind
mister Hall's vehicle. That is not how this story was
ever painted. Never unquote. Or He also shared by camera
footage of a Louisiana State trooper appearing to instruct a
(07:56):
witness on what to include in their report. Or He
said the evidence points to misleading actions by law enforcement
and a rush to judgment. In response to the evidence,
the Louisiana State Police defended their investigation into the incident.
Quote LSP conducted a detailed investigation with the assistance of
crash reconstruction experts. The findings were presented to the seventeenth
(08:18):
Judicial Court District Court, which approved an arrest warrant based
on the evidence collected. As with all investigations leading to arrest,
the subjects of the investigation are presumed innocent until proven
guilty in a court of law. On Saturday, Louisiana Democratic
Party Executive Director Dadrius Lanis released a statement calling the
case deeply troubling and an example of how false reporting
(08:41):
by some in law enforcement can destroy the lives and damage,
sorry destroy lives in damage public trust. The party is
urging Attorney General Liz Murrill to launch an independent investigation
and how to how the case was handled. The party,
with the support of the Lacey families, also backing the
creation of the Lacey Law, proposed legislation aimed at penalizing
(09:02):
officers or agencies who knowingly misrepresent evidence and protecting the
rights of falsely accused citizens. I want to give you
all the time in the world, Q talk to me
about this and what you know about this, and you know.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Well before we even get into the specific nuances of
this specific story. There's something in that article that troubles
me because it's something that I think we all assume
happens but never does according to data. And as people
(09:37):
know to listen to this show, Ramses and I spend
a lot of time digging into data so as to
not make fools of ourselves. And we talk about these
things that we're very passionate about so that we're not
all emotion and all passion and all HOWQ and Ramses feel,
but we have to infuse what's the actual truth. It
spoke about things like this, proper investigations when evidence shows
(10:03):
that people rush to judgment, coherce witnesses into falsifying statements
and creating their own testimonies to fit the story they've
already told themselves, and it leads to loss of life.
But this article mentioned loss of public trust, and ramsays,
(10:25):
we talk about this a lot. I don't know that
that part ever happens. We had a discussion with a
group of people in Washington, d C. At the Congressional
Black Caucus Leadership Conference that thought spending more money on
police brings crime down and makes community safer. And they
(10:47):
said that to us not just with their chest, but
with as many curse words as that you can include
as well. And they said it with passion because they
thought they were correct. So it seems that no matter
how often this happens, and trust me, it is often,
you never get a statement where the police department in question,
(11:08):
even after proven to have done everything wrong, says even
you know what, we didn't do the right thing this
time and we're sorry. Nope, they tripled down on the
afficacy of their investigation and that they did the right
thing and that the evidence showed that they were right,
even when the evidence that they're talking about is finally
presented to the public and shows that they.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Were absolutely wrong.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
This evidence that they're saying, per their detailed investigation that
was presented to the judicial court that got them the
warrant to arrest this young man, the same evidence that
showed him one hundred yards away from the crash, is
that the same evidence that you guys are now talking
about justified the decisions that you made, the warrant that
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you pursued, the charges that you led me against this
young man. Soh again, falsely accusing citizens leading to someone
losing their life should erode public trusts, but we've learned
(12:16):
over and over again that it seems to never do that.
This young man was most likely, or at least likely,
to change the financial future for generations to come in
(12:39):
his family, going about life the best way that he could,
and because he knew he was up against a system
that was designed to destroy him. Because he realized, oh
my god, even though I didn't do this, they're going
to pin this on me and it's going to work.
(13:01):
He watched his dreams dissolving in front of him and
felt like there was nothing he could do. Because that's
how this system does. It eats us, It spits us out,
It stomps on us. It doesn't care about our dreams.
It tries to ignore our past that it created, make
(13:24):
us out to be pretend to be victims who are
playing the race card as this system for centuries has
destroyed us and asked us to be grateful for being
present while being destroyed. A dream was taken away from
(13:49):
this young man and his family, and even after it's
proven that that's what happened, they doubled down that they
did the right thing. This is America. We have to
(14:10):
move on.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I want to, I do want to follow up though,
see if this Lacey law turns into something because the
police lying and lying and lying and lying and lying
with no accountability does create a blique reality for a
lot of black people, specifically with the with the.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Louis Would the Louisiana legislators have to say yes for
this Lacy law to come.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
And I know where you're going with that, Okay, I'm
just yeah, I know where you're going with that, all right.
So the next story, this is about a judge's home
that was that burst into flames after a tweet. This
is another article that I want to get into, so
(15:03):
allow me to paint the picture. This is from People.
The home of a South Carolina Circuit Court judge who
recently ruled against President Donald Trump burned to the ground
on Saturday, October fourth. The authorities are cautioning against jumping
to conclusions while an investigation continues. Judge Diane Goudstein was
walking her dogs at the time her at Disto Beach
(15:26):
house burst into flames, according to the.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Post and Courier.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
However, other members of her family inside the home, including
her husband, decorated Vietnam War veteran and former Democratic State
senator Arnold Goudstein reportedly sustained serious injuries after jumping from
windows and balconies to avoid the blaze. South Carolina Chief
Justice John Kittridge initially told fitz News that the fire
(15:52):
appeared to have been caused by an explosion, though officials
had not corroborated his claim or determined whether the fire
was accidental or arsoon a quote. Until that determination is made,
State Law Enforcement Division Chief Mark Keel has alerted local
law enforcement to provide extra patrols and security unquote.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
He said. Goudstein, sixty nine, had received death.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Threats in recent weeks, multiple sources told local news outlet Fitznews,
adding a layer of suspicion to the online conversation surrounding
the fire. Last month, Goudstein ruled to temporarily block the
South Carolina Election Commission from releasing voter files to the
Department of Justice as part of Trump's March executive order
aimed at preventing non citizens from registering to vote, something
(16:38):
that is already illegal, and her ruling, Goudstein said that
turning over the data to the Trump administration could cause
immediate and irreparable damage to voter's right to privacy. Her
decision was later overturned by South Carolina's state Supreme Court
and publicly criticized by the state's Republican governor. Henry McMaster
and DOJ official are meet Dylan. On the afternoon of
(17:02):
October fourth, the same day that Goudstein's house burned down,
the White House, Homeland Security Advisor Stephen Miller posted to
X quote the issue before us now is very simple
and clear. There is a large and growing movement of
left wing terrorism in this country, is well organized and funded,
and it is shielded by far left Democrat judges, prosecutors,
(17:24):
and attorneys general. Goes on to say the only remedy
is to use legitimate state power to dismantle terrorism and
terror networks. So I think I'm going to say what
(17:44):
I think a lot of people are thinking. The astounding
part about this is that we know who calls for
the terror, who calls for the violence, who calls for
the action. We know where it comes from. I can
look at a tweet right here from Steven Miller. I
just read it where he's stoking using language to stoke
(18:12):
the most extreme facets of this country. The most extreme
facets of this country are on the right full stop.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
That is not up for debate. It is a fact.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Those are the people with the guns, and they're proud
about the fact that they have the guns. Right, everybody
on the left is kumbaya, roses and butterflies and all
that sort of stuff, rainbows, peace, love and inclusivity. On
the right there that's where the white supremacist and the
Nazis and all those like extreme ideas live. We have
(18:47):
Donald Trump, Donald Trump famously, you know, I could shoot
somebody in the middle of Times Square and wouldn't lose
a single vote, you know, get that, sob off the
field field, you know, of course January sixth, you know,
all that sort of stuff. They're like violent language, and
(19:08):
then you know, of course his crowd responds, hang, Mike
Pence comes to mind, and on and on and on,
and there's plenty of incidents documented that, you know, stem
from right wing rhetoric. They energize and galvanize their base
to take action. Left wing folks tell the truth, you know, hey,
(19:35):
this is authoritarianism. This is what the Nazis did. Elon
Musk's salute is a Nazi salute. That is what the
Nazis did. That is factual Nazis did the same maneuver. Okay,
that is not calling anyone to take action against that man.
And so what we end up with, and the thing
(19:56):
that's astounding here is that people like Stephen Miller and
Trump get to point the finger to the left and say,
look what they're doing, ignoring the fact that they've done
it longer, done it better, and have done it. And
it's not even coming from the left. Right now, you
(20:18):
could argue that there are some extreme people on the left.
Of course, there's extreme people everywhere, but I think the
hyperfixation on trans people, and you know, the assassination of
Charlie Kirk gave them enough of a narrative to pedal
to their base to where it seems plausible. You know
(20:41):
who would try to assassinate Donald Trump if not people
from the left. No, those were right wing people that
were trying to assassinate Donald Trump. They would still never
vote for a Joe Biden or a Kamala Harris.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
And the fact that we have to not only deal
with this reality where houses get burned, but also deal
with the fact that these people control the airwaves now,
they control every lever of government. They've been exceptionally dishonest
at every single point under the premise of saving their country,
and they get to lie about the nature of their responsibility.
(21:17):
Meanwhile shifting the full weight of the responsibility to the
facet of the country that is in no way responsible
for maybe not in no way but minimally responsible for it.
And that's me just being giving as much grace as
I can is the astounding part. Now I've said my piece, Q,
the rest of this army is yours.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Two things can be true.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
There's a generalization fallacy that you use that I have
to call out because we have to be fair always please.
Everyone on the left is in rainbows and butterflies, and
we said that, so it's important to you. Said everyone
on the left is right, Oh yeah, and everyone on
the right is extreme would be a generalization fallacy which
(22:01):
I don't want us to subscribe to. However, what Rams
is said that is fact, is that the right is
far more extreme and responsible for far more extreme violence
than all other groups combined. Then all other groups combined
by like double by more than double, or other groups
(22:25):
combined based on the amount of extreme violent incidents, and
then to throw up their hands like, hey, we're against
that too. I know we've been asking for it for
all year. I know when we get on TV and
when we tweet, we tell you that the other side
is the enemy within, and that we call them terrorists,
(22:48):
and that we tell you you should do something about it.
You know, that's not what we meant, right even though
it's what we keep saying, even though it's what we
keep asking for, even though we keep calling for even
when we say we'll meet you there and help you
do it, that's not you know, that's not what we meant,
(23:08):
because you know, the other side is the violence side, Ramses.
The other side is the extreme side. You didn't see
the guy with the bullhorn and the afro. He had
some nice glasses on. He had a baby with him,
His brother was with him, he also had a baby
with them. You didn't see all the violence that they
planned to do without any weapons, with the signs they had.
Did you see the violence that they intended to do
(23:30):
when they marched down the streets peacefully together with their
children with the tattoo that said I love you. You
didn't see the violence there that they planned to do.
It was them. It's always them. They're the bad people
with the brown skin and the curly hair. You didn't.
You can't look at him and tell that they're bad.
You didn't hear the accent. You didn't hear the Spanish.
(23:53):
You didn't see them work in their construction job. You
didn't Oh wait, that's oh
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