September 17, 2025 • 30 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Broadcasting from the Civic Cipher Studios. Welcome to the QR code,
where we share perspective, seek understanding, and shape outcomes. The
man you are about to hear from is the man
who battles two hours worth of LA traffic every day
to be here with us.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
All.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
He is the Q in the QR code. He goes
by the name of q Ward.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
LA traffic really is something different. Man, Like I'm supposed
to introduce my brother and the host of this show.
I live fifteen miles away from where I'm coming from.
It takes one hour and forty five minutes to make
that trip. That is an insane fact. Yeah, how are
(00:45):
reactor work? The voice you just heard, the R in
the QR code, the hope, the rainbows, the butterflies in
the sunshine of this show.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
My brother, the captain of the ship ramses Jah.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Indeed, I appreciate that, man, you flatter me. Be sure
to stick around, though, because we are going to be
talking about a lot of cool stuff in today's episode.
A little later on in the show, well stuff you
need to know about it. I wouldn't call it cool, Yeah,
fair point, but yeah, just found out Apple is teaching
their AI to adapt to the Trump era kind of
(01:17):
softening some edges, so stick around for that. We're also
going to have some dialogue about Trump in his own words,
saying that smart people don't like him. No surprises there.
Q Ward is going to clap back today discussing the
idolatry of power. I'm really anxious and champing to hear
what you asked to say. We're going to talk about
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who is truly responsible for the politically motivated attacks in
this country. That is in our opinions segment. But we're
not going to be having opinions, trust We're going to
be having some facts and some data there. But that's
the way the show panned out, so stay tuned for that.
And we're also going to be discussing the hate in
the MAGA movement. But before we get to all that,
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it is time for a feel good feature. In today's
feel good feature comes from ndtv dot com. Protesters on
Tuesday projected images of Donald Trump and sex offender Jeffrey
Epstein onto a castle in England where the US President
will stay during his UK state visit. The lad By
Donkeys group, which is known for its viral stunts targeting politicians,
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broadcast a video montage for several minutes onto one of
the towers of Windsor Castle, west of London. The shots
shown shortly before Trump's arrival in Britain included the President's mugshot,
portraits of Epstein, newspaper headlines, and footage of the two
men dancing together. The local police said four people have
been arrested on suspicious sorry suspicion of malicious communications following
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the stunt in Windsor.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
We take any unauthorized activity around Windsor Castle extremely seriously,
said Chief Superintendent Felicity Parker of the Thames Valley Police,
adding that officers quote responded swiftly to stop the projection.
Trump has struggled to shake off stories about his ties
to former friend Epstein, who died in prison in twenty
nineteen before his trial for sexual exploitation. Even before Air
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Force one touchdown, dozens of anti Trump demonstrators gathered in
Windsor to protest against his visit. Thousands more plant to
demonstrate in London. Although the US leader will avoid the
capital and public during his stay, Trump and wife Milania
will stay at Windsor Castle on Wednesday, hosted by King
Charles the third and Queen Camilla. So I kind of
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love that, you know, other countries aren't beholden to the
norms and the rules and the consequences I guess that
are kind of present in this country under this president,
and that there are people out there still speaking truth
to power. It just is kind of a I mean,
it's a feel good feature. So you know, it kind
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of made me feel good that people are reminding him like,
hey man, we ain't forgot we know who you are,
and we know you're grimy and gross, and you know,
shout out to Britain for a you know, staying down
or at least those folks in Britain. All right, the
hate in Maga. All right, Um, you know what I'll do.
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I'll start this off how I should start it off.
So there is a creator. His name is Khalil Green
at Khalil dot green. If you want to check him out,
please give him a follow. This is his content we're
gonna share with you again at Khalil dot Green and
I will explain why this was significant to me in
just a second. And I'm gonna get Qu's response, and uh,
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I think it'll be really special. So here in his
own words is Khalil dot Green.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
So I haven't really heard anyone say this, but the
callous memes and jokes about Charlie Cook's murder are a
direct byproduct of the didn't do nothing era.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
And if you.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Don't know what didn't do nothing means, then you need
to watch this video. And if you do, you should
stay because of this will resonate with you. So let
rewind to the early twenty tens. Imagine you come home,
you turn the news and you hear about Trayvon Martin,
who was a seventeen year old that was shot and
killed by vigilante while holding a bag of skills. Or
you see the footage of twelve year old tam Or
(05:15):
Rice who was shot and killed by police while holding
a toy gun. Or Eric Garner being choked to death
while saying that he couldn't breathe, or Sandra Bland who
was wrongfully arrested and later found dead in jail. For
many of you who were adults at the time, the
tragedy in horror as tarrible as it was pretty much
ended there with the killings themselves and reconciling the injustice
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that happened. But the rest of us gen Z and Millennials,
who were mostly children at the time. The killings were
just where the trauma began, because that's when the Internet
exploded with the most shocking and vile memes and jokes
about these people who had just died, and the didn't
do nothing meme was practically the face of this era.
It was an ignorant and purposely fake African American English
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way of saying he didn't do anything, as a way
for online trolls and racists to mock grieving black families
who claim that their loved ones were unarmed and undeserving
of death. But make no mistake, it was not just
this one meme. There was actually a whole ecosystem of
cruel and edgy content that was meant to desensitize people
and normalize making fun of black people dying. For example,
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this was a trend called trayvonning, where white teenagers would
dress up in a hoodie and lie face down with
skittles and a can of soda to mock the way
in which Trayvon Martin's dead body was found, and more
recently we had the George Floyd Challenge, which is pretty
self explanatory. This sort of online cruelty was foundational for
the alt right pipeline no regard for the families of
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the victims of police violence and little regard for the facts,
and this humanizing content was born in the dark corners
of websites like Reddit and four chan, but what started
out as edgy jokes in those places spilled over into
YouTube comments, Facebook threads, and eventually mainstream concerned discourse. While
Charlie Kirk might not have been at the beginning of
this phenomenon, nor was he necessarily the furthest Right, he
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absolutely benefited from its culture and actively participated in its expansion.
He spread content that told lies and was meant to
smear figures like Breonna Taylor and George Floyd soon after,
if not immediately after, they were killed. And just to
add on to that, a lot of people are focusing
on only the direct quotes from Charlie Kirk himself, but
that leaves out the organization that he founded and just
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how badly it contributed to this issue. Now back then
until now, many activists have said the solution is to
teach people about why it's wrong to dehumanize others and
implement stronger and smarter content moderation against hate speech. Instead,
right wing voices and Silicon Valley executives called that woke
and just tore down all the rules. Of course, this
made things worse and fueled even worse radicalization. For example,
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I recently wrote about the George Droid meme and how
crazy and depraved this culture of mocking death had become
in the wake of recent changes on platforms that allow
unfiltered hate speech. But all of that fell on deaf
ears of course until now. But I want to make
something very clear. It is definitive that this morbid Internet
culture originates on the right, more specifically the meme lords
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of four chan and Reddit, the politicians and public figures
that normalized and emboldened them, and the social media companies
that make money by fending the flames of all of this,
and that has radicalized and desensitized both sides of the
political spectrum. And we try to warn you before it backfired.
But that's all I can fit in this video. If
you're my full say on the topic, go to my
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substack at historycantthide dot com, or if on Instagram, just
come on the word newsletter below to be DMed a link.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
So again, that's at Khalil dot green if you want
to see the images, because obviously we can't show you
the images if you're listening on radio. But those didn't
do nothing memes and the George Droid memes and all
that sort of stuff, and all the racist language and
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obviously the profane you know content. It hits different when
you actually see what he's talking about. Right. The George
Floyd challenge, for instance, is a challenge where you know,
white kids would kneel on the neck of another kid
and you know, hashtag George Floyd challenge. You know, so
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when I saw this, and I knew that there was
parts of the Internet that I was unfamiliar with, right,
you know, we we have to peak around in you know,
far right circles at more ME than Q just to
kind of bear in mind what it is they're talking about,
what it is they're complaining about, just so we give
our listeners what they need to challenge narratives that might
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be developing on the right and the far right. But
you know, because we only peek around over there, we
have to preserve our own mental well being. We miss
some things we're not over there constantly. Right, So this
didn't do nothing, which is another like racial slur. Basically
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didn't do nothing is again the term that people would
use to describe a black person who was killed because
of the police or because of you know something, and
there was no justice for those people, and these families
were grieving. One of the things that I'd done historically
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on both of our shows is I tried to leave
a lot of grace and I will still continue to
do that, to leave a lot of grace for people
who realize that they're wrong, who realized that they were
participating in hateful behaviors, just because I know that people
are on various journeys, and you know, I have to
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be the person if no one else will be this
person that will allow folks to come over and give
them a hug and say welcome back home.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
It sounds silly, but that's just how my heart beats. Okay,
But I had no idea that the hate ran that
deep for so long. And que I know you're going
to let our listeners know that you did try to
tell me over and over again. But for so long,
I thought people were simply just uninformed, or I thought
they were you know, who knows, you know, I think
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that I provided a lot of excuses because the idea
that people just wanted to be hateful and wanted to
be cruel and wanted to be mean was just so
unconscionable for me. And to be fair, I recognize that
meme culture is for young people, and young people make
mistakes and they're still figuring out who they are. But
this is so vile and so hurtful that it feels like,
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you know, the hate in the Maga movement runs a
lot deeper than I originally thought. Q, please.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Didn't do nothing.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
What you have to take into consideration is that that's
making fun of the loved ones of those falling, not
the falling. It's insulting to the fallen, But it's making
fun of the idea, right you and I he didn't
do nothing, like it's it's it's poking fun at the
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at those of us who are hurt and offended and
grieving and mourning. They're insulting, they're not honoring the dead,
but they're like pointing and laughing at us like Nana, no,
Nana're like, oh, yeah, he didn't do nothing. So it's
such a it's a it's a it's a deeper level
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of cruel, hateful rhetoric, and these same people will call
us disgusting for not solemnly and in reverence and in
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solidarity to God and country, paying homage and showing respect
and mourning sadly in the wake of the demise of
someone like Charlie Kirk. Honor their heroes, no matter how
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vile they are, no matter how they spoke about you
and those you care about. But when it comes to
not your heroes, but your children, your fathers, your mothers,
your neighbors, your friends, your children, your daughters, they make
memes about it and collectively laugh about it. The leader's depundents,
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the talk show host, all of them. So for us,
it's the blatant hypocrisy, over and over again.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Speaking of blatant hypocrisy, we're moving on to what would
normally be the opinions segment of the show, but it
feels like this segment should have a different title now
because these are facts. So for today only, we're switching
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it to facts, and we're going to have our better
do better incorporated, and so we can stretch our legs
a little bit. We're going to talk about who is
truly responsible for politically motivated attacks in this country. And
the reason we're going to talk about this is because
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we've heard from the president and everyone, the vice president,
you name it, everybody who's in power right now, where
they'll put a camera in front of their face in
a microphone for everyone say it's the left that is
radicalizing people. You can't call people Nazis and not expect,
you know, folks to try to attack them, you know,
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on and on and on pointing fingers at the left,
suggesting that that is the source of all the problems
in terms of like, you know, political attacks and completely
ignoring it's like that they started a thing, you know
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what I mean, Like who really set this whole country off?
You know, Donald Trump. Since Donald Trump started becoming critical
of Barack Obama in the White House and the birther movement,
where he suggested to the country that Obama was an
invalid president because he wasn't born in the United States,
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demanding to see his birth certificate, et cetera, this country
has started on a path since that time of being
increasingly divided. It's singular, and you know, people could point
to Barack Obama all they want, but it was Donald
Trump that took the the faction that didn't want to
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see him in office and invested in it and played
the greatest hits White Folk's greatest hits to that group,
and has been successful in growing that movement, or maybe
not growing it. Maybe that movement already had the numbers
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and we just didn't know. But you know, giving validity
I suppose to that movement and giving them a mouthpiece
in this country. Now, this is the same Donald Trump,
you know what we're talking about politically motivated attacks. This
is the same Donald Trump that has been very had
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had very incendiary speech. You know, I could shoot into
somebody in my followers, I wouldn't lose a follower.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
You know.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
He's the one that organized the January sixth insurrection, Hang
Mike Pence, all that sort of stuff. That's that's Donald Trump,
you know. And his speeches and his ramblings are full
of this type of rhetoric. So for this group of
people to blame the right or sorry, blame the left,
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it feels like what they do, you know what I mean,
It's almost like if I say something enough times, it'll
become true, even if it's not true, even if it's
not scientific, even if it's not database, even if it's
not journalistic, if it has no integrity whatsoever. If I
just say it enough times, it becomes true. And we're
going to talk later in the show about Donald Trump,
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in his own words saying, smart people don't like me,
because smart people will not blindly accept something just be
because he says it. But there are enough people in
this country that will accept things just because he says it.
So he just says it over and over again, and
then that's how it gets chronicled. That's the narrative that
gets chronicled. Right, So what they're doing now is saying
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over and over again trans people, leftist rhetoric, et cetera.
And this is the primordial ooze for these politically motivated attacks.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Right.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
So what I'm gonna do is I'm going to share.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Some data for folks that feel like.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
They need to push back. Maybe you use this clip,
maybe you use these talking points. Either way, if you
end up in those circles talking to these people who
are like, yeah, the left is so radical, miss me
with that. The right is super radical and Donald Trump
is leading the charge. So this comes from Cato dot org,
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from folks that are not familiar I'll introduce you to
kto dot org. For more than forty years. This is
from their website. By the way, for more than forty years,
CATO has led the charge for liberty in our nation
and around the world. The Cato Institute is an assiduously
nonpartisan and independent public policy research organization or a think
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tank that creates a presence for and promotes libertarian ideas
and policy debates. So that's CATO dot org. You're welcome
to look this up on your own. These are not
the words of Ramses and Q. This is from an
organization that tracks this stuff.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Okay, here we go.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
A total of three thousand, five hundred and ninety nine
people have been murdered in politically motivated terrorist attacks in
the United States from January one, nineteen seventy five, through
September tenth, twenty twenty five. Murders committed in terrorist attacks
account for about zero point three five percent of all
murders since nineteen seventy five. Only eighty one happened since
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twenty twenty, accounting four point zero seven percent of all
murders during that time, or seven out of ten thousand.
Terrorism is the broadest reasonable definition of a politically motivated
murder because it is the threatened or actual use of
illegal force and violence by a non state actor to
attain political, economic, religious, or social goals through coercion, fear,
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or intimidation. That excludes individual hate crimes, which are frequently
difficult to distinguish from terrorism, but are often more personal
and spontaneous. Eighty three percent of those murdered since nineteen
seventy five were killed by the nine to eleven terrorists.
And there's a chart figure one. Okay, so that's eighty
three percent of the almost thirty six hundred right there.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Nine to eleven.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
The Oklahoma City bombing accounts for about another five percent.
Those murdered since twenty twenty account for just two percent.
Terrorists inspired by Islam ideology are responsible for eighty seven
percent of those murdered in attacks on US soil since
nineteen seventy five. And I want to be very responsible
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when I say that, okay, because the Islamic terrorists that
are responsible for those attacks are not representatives of Islam,
the faith that more than a billion people on this
planet practice. Islam is a faith of peace. It's like
if people were to say Christianity is a faith of peace.
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But you took the KKK's version of Christianity to paint
all Christians. That's not what we're doing with this data. Okay,
But this is like I call it, an extreme right
version of Islamic attacks. Okay, I'll continue. Since nineteen seventy five, okay,
right wingers are the second most common motivating ideology, accounting
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for three hundred and ninety one murders and eleven of
the total. The definition here of right wing terrorists include
those motivated by white supremacy, anti abortion beliefs, involuntary celibacy
or in cells, and other right wing ideologies.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Now, now again, eleven percent of the total right wing.
Left wing terrorists murdered sixty five people, or about two
percent of the total. Okay, so we're going from eleven
percent right wing two percent left wing.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Left wing terrorists include those motivated by black nationalism, anti
police sentiment, communism, socialism, animal rights, environmentalism, anti white ideologies,
and other left wing ideologies. Those murders that are politically
motivated by unknown or other ideologies are a vanishingly small percentage,
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which is unsurprising because terrorists typically want attention for their causes,
so Q, I talked a lot, and I want to
give you as long a legs as you need. You got,
you know, a better part of six minutes, seven minutes whatever,
talk to.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Me a better part of six minutes to talk about
something that you said, and it's I'll keep saying what
I'm saying. I know it's a lie, but I'll keep
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saying it until it's not. And then I'll say I
told you so. That very very small percentage that you
just talked about when it ends up being someone who's
left thinking, I bet money that in almost every case
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it's retaliatory. You've just been stomping on me for so
long that I had to hit back. And that takes
me back to at the time I was in college.
I was at a party, strolling with the bruhs, you know,
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and I ended up in a conversation with a really,
really pretty young lady like I stepped out of the
line to speak to her, and as I was talking
to her, a massive fight broke out. And how this
is chronicle took for me to not be in that
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line and see who started the fire. Let's just say
me and mine are the left and the other guys
are the right.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Now.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
One of my guys had a younger brother who was
still in high school at this party with us. As
you could imagine, all of us are on the football team.
His younger brother is not, and he's in high school
and we are grown men.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
And it looks like that if you're.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
At the party and someone on the right, for the
sake of the story, punched him in the face, and
it was unexpected.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
He could not defend himself. He was blindsided.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
But then a fight broke out, and for some reason,
as I turned to kind of look around and see
what was going on, I got hitting the back of
the head and ended up on the bottom of this
fight and ramses. I got stomped out, and I did
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my best to cover my face in my head, but
if you're using your arms and elbows to cover your
face and head, as you can imagine, everything else is exposed.
And I'm being attacked right by the right over and
over and over and over and over. Eventually, however, I
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realize I'm getting beat down, but I have not been
beat into submission. And I cannot lay here on the
ground balled up forever because no one's coming to help. Apparently,
no one thinks it's wrong that all of these guys
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are stomping me out right now? So I collected myself.
There's an interesting thing that happens when you're getting jumped,
or I guess in fights in general. But people fight
to a rhythm. They throw kicks and punches in combination,
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and there's a timing to it. And after what was
probably two minutes but felt like five days of me
being stomped out, I caught the rhythm of excuse me
of one of the guys, and I grabbed his timberlain
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boot and then his leg and snatched his leg from
a bunder him. He fell very hard on the ground,
and that gave me enough space to stand up and ramses,
what do you think happened?
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Once I stood up got out of there, I was
handcuffed by a police officer against the wall. That sucks,
but came the left wing responded.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
I became the left thinking quote unquote terrorists, because right
we get called terrorists when it's us. When it's them,
they're having a hard day and it's a mental health
break and they just need prayers and forgiveness and grace
and empathy. Right, So all that was me being oppressed,
stepped on having resources taken away from me, you know,
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sought out because I looked different or thought different, or
loved different or prayed different. But when I finally said
this is enough and retaliated, I was the only person
being handcuffed. And that's how this often works. I don't
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know every case that that data shows when the attacks
come from the left, but we know it's overwhelmed leave right,
and I just be willing to bet that is some
of those left thinking, quote unquote terrorist, we're just tired
of getting stomped out.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
I want to make sure that it's it's stated clearly. Uh,
eleven percent of the total comes from the right, two
percent comes from the left. Okay, so that's it by itself.
That's a huge difference. So for folks out there, don't
let them try to suggest that the left is doing this.
Calling out Nazi behavior for what it is is absolutely
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what you're supposed to do. This is not normal. Calling
out that Nazi type behavior is normal. And yeah, I
think your point is well made. You know, if indeed
there is something that you know, we're talking animal rights
activists and stuff like that, So what are you going
to do? Right,
Broadcasting from the Civic Cipher Studios. Welcome to the QR code,
where we share perspective, seek understanding, and shape outcomes. The
man you are about to hear from is the man
who battles two hours worth of LA traffic every day
to be here with us.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
All.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
He is the Q in the QR code. He goes
by the name of q Ward.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
LA traffic really is something different. Man, Like I'm supposed
to introduce my brother and the host of this show.
I live fifteen miles away from where I'm coming from.
It takes one hour and forty five minutes to make
that trip. That is an insane fact. Yeah, how are
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reactor work? The voice you just heard, the R in
the QR code, the hope, the rainbows, the butterflies in
the sunshine of this show.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
My brother, the captain of the ship ramses Jah.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Indeed, I appreciate that, man, you flatter me. Be sure
to stick around, though, because we are going to be
talking about a lot of cool stuff in today's episode.
A little later on in the show, well stuff you
need to know about it. I wouldn't call it cool, Yeah,
fair point, but yeah, just found out Apple is teaching
their AI to adapt to the Trump era kind of
(01:17):
softening some edges, so stick around for that. We're also
going to have some dialogue about Trump in his own words,
saying that smart people don't like him. No surprises there.
Q Ward is going to clap back today discussing the
idolatry of power. I'm really anxious and champing to hear
what you asked to say. We're going to talk about
(01:40):
who is truly responsible for the politically motivated attacks in
this country. That is in our opinions segment. But we're
not going to be having opinions, trust We're going to
be having some facts and some data there. But that's
the way the show panned out, so stay tuned for that.
And we're also going to be discussing the hate in
the MAGA movement. But before we get to all that,
(02:01):
it is time for a feel good feature. In today's
feel good feature comes from ndtv dot com. Protesters on
Tuesday projected images of Donald Trump and sex offender Jeffrey
Epstein onto a castle in England where the US President
will stay during his UK state visit. The lad By
Donkeys group, which is known for its viral stunts targeting politicians,
(02:24):
broadcast a video montage for several minutes onto one of
the towers of Windsor Castle, west of London. The shots
shown shortly before Trump's arrival in Britain included the President's mugshot,
portraits of Epstein, newspaper headlines, and footage of the two
men dancing together. The local police said four people have
been arrested on suspicious sorry suspicion of malicious communications following
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the stunt in Windsor.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
We take any unauthorized activity around Windsor Castle extremely seriously,
said Chief Superintendent Felicity Parker of the Thames Valley Police,
adding that officers quote responded swiftly to stop the projection.
Trump has struggled to shake off stories about his ties
to former friend Epstein, who died in prison in twenty
nineteen before his trial for sexual exploitation. Even before Air
(03:10):
Force one touchdown, dozens of anti Trump demonstrators gathered in
Windsor to protest against his visit. Thousands more plant to
demonstrate in London. Although the US leader will avoid the
capital and public during his stay, Trump and wife Milania
will stay at Windsor Castle on Wednesday, hosted by King
Charles the third and Queen Camilla. So I kind of
(03:31):
love that, you know, other countries aren't beholden to the
norms and the rules and the consequences I guess that
are kind of present in this country under this president,
and that there are people out there still speaking truth
to power. It just is kind of a I mean,
it's a feel good feature. So you know, it kind
(03:52):
of made me feel good that people are reminding him like,
hey man, we ain't forgot we know who you are,
and we know you're grimy and gross, and you know,
shout out to Britain for a you know, staying down
or at least those folks in Britain. All right, the
hate in Maga. All right, Um, you know what I'll do.
(04:16):
I'll start this off how I should start it off.
So there is a creator. His name is Khalil Green
at Khalil dot green. If you want to check him out,
please give him a follow. This is his content we're
gonna share with you again at Khalil dot Green and
I will explain why this was significant to me in
just a second. And I'm gonna get Qu's response, and uh,
(04:40):
I think it'll be really special. So here in his
own words is Khalil dot Green.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
So I haven't really heard anyone say this, but the
callous memes and jokes about Charlie Cook's murder are a
direct byproduct of the didn't do nothing era.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
And if you.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Don't know what didn't do nothing means, then you need
to watch this video. And if you do, you should
stay because of this will resonate with you. So let
rewind to the early twenty tens. Imagine you come home,
you turn the news and you hear about Trayvon Martin,
who was a seventeen year old that was shot and
killed by vigilante while holding a bag of skills. Or
you see the footage of twelve year old tam Or
(05:15):
Rice who was shot and killed by police while holding
a toy gun. Or Eric Garner being choked to death
while saying that he couldn't breathe, or Sandra Bland who
was wrongfully arrested and later found dead in jail. For
many of you who were adults at the time, the
tragedy in horror as tarrible as it was pretty much
ended there with the killings themselves and reconciling the injustice
(05:35):
that happened. But the rest of us gen Z and Millennials,
who were mostly children at the time. The killings were
just where the trauma began, because that's when the Internet
exploded with the most shocking and vile memes and jokes
about these people who had just died, and the didn't
do nothing meme was practically the face of this era.
It was an ignorant and purposely fake African American English
(05:58):
way of saying he didn't do anything, as a way
for online trolls and racists to mock grieving black families
who claim that their loved ones were unarmed and undeserving
of death. But make no mistake, it was not just
this one meme. There was actually a whole ecosystem of
cruel and edgy content that was meant to desensitize people
and normalize making fun of black people dying. For example,
(06:20):
this was a trend called trayvonning, where white teenagers would
dress up in a hoodie and lie face down with
skittles and a can of soda to mock the way
in which Trayvon Martin's dead body was found, and more
recently we had the George Floyd Challenge, which is pretty
self explanatory. This sort of online cruelty was foundational for
the alt right pipeline no regard for the families of
(06:42):
the victims of police violence and little regard for the facts,
and this humanizing content was born in the dark corners
of websites like Reddit and four chan, but what started
out as edgy jokes in those places spilled over into
YouTube comments, Facebook threads, and eventually mainstream concerned discourse. While
Charlie Kirk might not have been at the beginning of
this phenomenon, nor was he necessarily the furthest Right, he
(07:05):
absolutely benefited from its culture and actively participated in its expansion.
He spread content that told lies and was meant to
smear figures like Breonna Taylor and George Floyd soon after,
if not immediately after, they were killed. And just to
add on to that, a lot of people are focusing
on only the direct quotes from Charlie Kirk himself, but
that leaves out the organization that he founded and just
(07:27):
how badly it contributed to this issue. Now back then
until now, many activists have said the solution is to
teach people about why it's wrong to dehumanize others and
implement stronger and smarter content moderation against hate speech. Instead,
right wing voices and Silicon Valley executives called that woke
and just tore down all the rules. Of course, this
made things worse and fueled even worse radicalization. For example,
(07:51):
I recently wrote about the George Droid meme and how
crazy and depraved this culture of mocking death had become
in the wake of recent changes on platforms that allow
unfiltered hate speech. But all of that fell on deaf
ears of course until now. But I want to make
something very clear. It is definitive that this morbid Internet
culture originates on the right, more specifically the meme lords
(08:15):
of four chan and Reddit, the politicians and public figures
that normalized and emboldened them, and the social media companies
that make money by fending the flames of all of this,
and that has radicalized and desensitized both sides of the
political spectrum. And we try to warn you before it backfired.
But that's all I can fit in this video. If
you're my full say on the topic, go to my
(08:37):
substack at historycantthide dot com, or if on Instagram, just
come on the word newsletter below to be DMed a link.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
So again, that's at Khalil dot green if you want
to see the images, because obviously we can't show you
the images if you're listening on radio. But those didn't
do nothing memes and the George Droid memes and all
that sort of stuff, and all the racist language and
(09:04):
obviously the profane you know content. It hits different when
you actually see what he's talking about. Right. The George
Floyd challenge, for instance, is a challenge where you know,
white kids would kneel on the neck of another kid
and you know, hashtag George Floyd challenge. You know, so
(09:30):
when I saw this, and I knew that there was
parts of the Internet that I was unfamiliar with, right,
you know, we we have to peak around in you know,
far right circles at more ME than Q just to
kind of bear in mind what it is they're talking about,
what it is they're complaining about, just so we give
our listeners what they need to challenge narratives that might
(09:52):
be developing on the right and the far right. But
you know, because we only peek around over there, we
have to preserve our own mental well being. We miss
some things we're not over there constantly. Right, So this
didn't do nothing, which is another like racial slur. Basically
(10:14):
didn't do nothing is again the term that people would
use to describe a black person who was killed because
of the police or because of you know something, and
there was no justice for those people, and these families
were grieving. One of the things that I'd done historically
(10:34):
on both of our shows is I tried to leave
a lot of grace and I will still continue to
do that, to leave a lot of grace for people
who realize that they're wrong, who realized that they were
participating in hateful behaviors, just because I know that people
are on various journeys, and you know, I have to
(10:58):
be the person if no one else will be this
person that will allow folks to come over and give
them a hug and say welcome back home.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
It sounds silly, but that's just how my heart beats. Okay,
But I had no idea that the hate ran that
deep for so long. And que I know you're going
to let our listeners know that you did try to
tell me over and over again. But for so long,
I thought people were simply just uninformed, or I thought
they were you know, who knows, you know, I think
(11:29):
that I provided a lot of excuses because the idea
that people just wanted to be hateful and wanted to
be cruel and wanted to be mean was just so
unconscionable for me. And to be fair, I recognize that
meme culture is for young people, and young people make
mistakes and they're still figuring out who they are. But
this is so vile and so hurtful that it feels like,
(11:49):
you know, the hate in the Maga movement runs a
lot deeper than I originally thought. Q, please.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Didn't do nothing.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
What you have to take into consideration is that that's
making fun of the loved ones of those falling, not
the falling. It's insulting to the fallen, But it's making
fun of the idea, right you and I he didn't
do nothing, like it's it's it's poking fun at the
(12:22):
at those of us who are hurt and offended and
grieving and mourning. They're insulting, they're not honoring the dead,
but they're like pointing and laughing at us like Nana, no,
Nana're like, oh, yeah, he didn't do nothing. So it's
such a it's a it's a it's a deeper level
(12:44):
of cruel, hateful rhetoric, and these same people will call
us disgusting for not solemnly and in reverence and in
(13:06):
solidarity to God and country, paying homage and showing respect
and mourning sadly in the wake of the demise of
someone like Charlie Kirk. Honor their heroes, no matter how
(13:27):
vile they are, no matter how they spoke about you
and those you care about. But when it comes to
not your heroes, but your children, your fathers, your mothers,
your neighbors, your friends, your children, your daughters, they make
memes about it and collectively laugh about it. The leader's depundents,
(13:49):
the talk show host, all of them. So for us,
it's the blatant hypocrisy, over and over again.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Speaking of blatant hypocrisy, we're moving on to what would
normally be the opinions segment of the show, but it
feels like this segment should have a different title now
because these are facts. So for today only, we're switching
(14:27):
it to facts, and we're going to have our better
do better incorporated, and so we can stretch our legs
a little bit. We're going to talk about who is
truly responsible for politically motivated attacks in this country. And
the reason we're going to talk about this is because
(14:49):
we've heard from the president and everyone, the vice president,
you name it, everybody who's in power right now, where
they'll put a camera in front of their face in
a microphone for everyone say it's the left that is
radicalizing people. You can't call people Nazis and not expect,
you know, folks to try to attack them, you know,
(15:12):
on and on and on pointing fingers at the left,
suggesting that that is the source of all the problems
in terms of like, you know, political attacks and completely
ignoring it's like that they started a thing, you know
(15:32):
what I mean, Like who really set this whole country off?
You know, Donald Trump. Since Donald Trump started becoming critical
of Barack Obama in the White House and the birther movement,
where he suggested to the country that Obama was an
invalid president because he wasn't born in the United States,
(15:52):
demanding to see his birth certificate, et cetera, this country
has started on a path since that time of being
increasingly divided. It's singular, and you know, people could point
to Barack Obama all they want, but it was Donald
Trump that took the the faction that didn't want to
(16:15):
see him in office and invested in it and played
the greatest hits White Folk's greatest hits to that group,
and has been successful in growing that movement, or maybe
not growing it. Maybe that movement already had the numbers
(16:36):
and we just didn't know. But you know, giving validity
I suppose to that movement and giving them a mouthpiece
in this country. Now, this is the same Donald Trump,
you know what we're talking about politically motivated attacks. This
is the same Donald Trump that has been very had
(16:59):
had very incendiary speech. You know, I could shoot into
somebody in my followers, I wouldn't lose a follower.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
You know.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
He's the one that organized the January sixth insurrection, Hang
Mike Pence, all that sort of stuff. That's that's Donald Trump,
you know. And his speeches and his ramblings are full
of this type of rhetoric. So for this group of
people to blame the right or sorry, blame the left,
(17:30):
it feels like what they do, you know what I mean,
It's almost like if I say something enough times, it'll
become true, even if it's not true, even if it's
not scientific, even if it's not database, even if it's
not journalistic, if it has no integrity whatsoever. If I
just say it enough times, it becomes true. And we're
going to talk later in the show about Donald Trump,
(17:53):
in his own words saying, smart people don't like me,
because smart people will not blindly accept something just be
because he says it. But there are enough people in
this country that will accept things just because he says it.
So he just says it over and over again, and
then that's how it gets chronicled. That's the narrative that
gets chronicled. Right, So what they're doing now is saying
(18:14):
over and over again trans people, leftist rhetoric, et cetera.
And this is the primordial ooze for these politically motivated attacks.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Right.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
So what I'm gonna do is I'm going to share.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Some data for folks that feel like.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
They need to push back. Maybe you use this clip,
maybe you use these talking points. Either way, if you
end up in those circles talking to these people who
are like, yeah, the left is so radical, miss me
with that. The right is super radical and Donald Trump
is leading the charge. So this comes from Cato dot org,
(18:56):
from folks that are not familiar I'll introduce you to
kto dot org. For more than forty years. This is
from their website. By the way, for more than forty years,
CATO has led the charge for liberty in our nation
and around the world. The Cato Institute is an assiduously
nonpartisan and independent public policy research organization or a think
(19:17):
tank that creates a presence for and promotes libertarian ideas
and policy debates. So that's CATO dot org. You're welcome
to look this up on your own. These are not
the words of Ramses and Q. This is from an
organization that tracks this stuff.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
Okay, here we go.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
A total of three thousand, five hundred and ninety nine
people have been murdered in politically motivated terrorist attacks in
the United States from January one, nineteen seventy five, through
September tenth, twenty twenty five. Murders committed in terrorist attacks
account for about zero point three five percent of all
murders since nineteen seventy five. Only eighty one happened since
(19:59):
twenty twenty, accounting four point zero seven percent of all
murders during that time, or seven out of ten thousand.
Terrorism is the broadest reasonable definition of a politically motivated
murder because it is the threatened or actual use of
illegal force and violence by a non state actor to
attain political, economic, religious, or social goals through coercion, fear,
(20:24):
or intimidation. That excludes individual hate crimes, which are frequently
difficult to distinguish from terrorism, but are often more personal
and spontaneous. Eighty three percent of those murdered since nineteen
seventy five were killed by the nine to eleven terrorists.
And there's a chart figure one. Okay, so that's eighty
three percent of the almost thirty six hundred right there.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Nine to eleven.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
The Oklahoma City bombing accounts for about another five percent.
Those murdered since twenty twenty account for just two percent.
Terrorists inspired by Islam ideology are responsible for eighty seven
percent of those murdered in attacks on US soil since
nineteen seventy five. And I want to be very responsible
(21:09):
when I say that, okay, because the Islamic terrorists that
are responsible for those attacks are not representatives of Islam,
the faith that more than a billion people on this
planet practice. Islam is a faith of peace. It's like
if people were to say Christianity is a faith of peace.
(21:33):
But you took the KKK's version of Christianity to paint
all Christians. That's not what we're doing with this data. Okay,
But this is like I call it, an extreme right
version of Islamic attacks. Okay, I'll continue. Since nineteen seventy five, okay,
right wingers are the second most common motivating ideology, accounting
(21:56):
for three hundred and ninety one murders and eleven of
the total. The definition here of right wing terrorists include
those motivated by white supremacy, anti abortion beliefs, involuntary celibacy
or in cells, and other right wing ideologies.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Now, now again, eleven percent of the total right wing.
Left wing terrorists murdered sixty five people, or about two
percent of the total. Okay, so we're going from eleven
percent right wing two percent left wing.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Left wing terrorists include those motivated by black nationalism, anti
police sentiment, communism, socialism, animal rights, environmentalism, anti white ideologies,
and other left wing ideologies. Those murders that are politically
motivated by unknown or other ideologies are a vanishingly small percentage,
(22:54):
which is unsurprising because terrorists typically want attention for their causes,
so Q, I talked a lot, and I want to
give you as long a legs as you need. You got,
you know, a better part of six minutes, seven minutes whatever,
talk to.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Me a better part of six minutes to talk about
something that you said, and it's I'll keep saying what
I'm saying. I know it's a lie, but I'll keep
(23:32):
saying it until it's not. And then I'll say I
told you so. That very very small percentage that you
just talked about when it ends up being someone who's
left thinking, I bet money that in almost every case
(23:54):
it's retaliatory. You've just been stomping on me for so
long that I had to hit back. And that takes
me back to at the time I was in college.
I was at a party, strolling with the bruhs, you know,
(24:15):
and I ended up in a conversation with a really,
really pretty young lady like I stepped out of the
line to speak to her, and as I was talking
to her, a massive fight broke out. And how this
is chronicle took for me to not be in that
(24:39):
line and see who started the fire. Let's just say
me and mine are the left and the other guys
are the right.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Now.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
One of my guys had a younger brother who was
still in high school at this party with us. As
you could imagine, all of us are on the football team.
His younger brother is not, and he's in high school
and we are grown men.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
And it looks like that if you're.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
At the party and someone on the right, for the
sake of the story, punched him in the face, and
it was unexpected.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
He could not defend himself. He was blindsided.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
But then a fight broke out, and for some reason,
as I turned to kind of look around and see
what was going on, I got hitting the back of
the head and ended up on the bottom of this
fight and ramses. I got stomped out, and I did
(25:54):
my best to cover my face in my head, but
if you're using your arms and elbows to cover your
face and head, as you can imagine, everything else is exposed.
And I'm being attacked right by the right over and
over and over and over and over. Eventually, however, I
(26:21):
realize I'm getting beat down, but I have not been
beat into submission. And I cannot lay here on the
ground balled up forever because no one's coming to help. Apparently,
no one thinks it's wrong that all of these guys
(26:41):
are stomping me out right now? So I collected myself.
There's an interesting thing that happens when you're getting jumped,
or I guess in fights in general. But people fight
to a rhythm. They throw kicks and punches in combination,
(27:02):
and there's a timing to it. And after what was
probably two minutes but felt like five days of me
being stomped out, I caught the rhythm of excuse me
of one of the guys, and I grabbed his timberlain
(27:25):
boot and then his leg and snatched his leg from
a bunder him. He fell very hard on the ground,
and that gave me enough space to stand up and ramses,
what do you think happened?
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Once I stood up got out of there, I was
handcuffed by a police officer against the wall. That sucks,
but came the left wing responded.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
I became the left thinking quote unquote terrorists, because right
we get called terrorists when it's us. When it's them,
they're having a hard day and it's a mental health
break and they just need prayers and forgiveness and grace
and empathy. Right, So all that was me being oppressed,
stepped on having resources taken away from me, you know,
(28:31):
sought out because I looked different or thought different, or
loved different or prayed different. But when I finally said
this is enough and retaliated, I was the only person
being handcuffed. And that's how this often works. I don't
(28:52):
know every case that that data shows when the attacks
come from the left, but we know it's overwhelmed leave right,
and I just be willing to bet that is some
of those left thinking, quote unquote terrorist, we're just tired
of getting stomped out.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
I want to make sure that it's it's stated clearly. Uh,
eleven percent of the total comes from the right, two
percent comes from the left. Okay, so that's it by itself.
That's a huge difference. So for folks out there, don't
let them try to suggest that the left is doing this.
Calling out Nazi behavior for what it is is absolutely
(29:39):
what you're supposed to do. This is not normal. Calling
out that Nazi type behavior is normal. And yeah, I
think your point is well made. You know, if indeed
there is something that you know, we're talking animal rights
activists and stuff like that, So what are you going
to do? Right,
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