August 11, 2025 • 28 mins
On part 2 of today's podcast, we highlight a discussion on the President's latest approval ratings with Black voters.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Still broadcasting from the Civic Cipher Studios. This is the
QR code where we share perspective, seek understanding, and shape outcomes.
The man you are about to hear from is the
balance in this great equation that we have. He is
the person that keeps me grounded and keeps me focused
and keeps my hands out of the clouds. He is
the Q and the QR code, and he goes by
the name of the q Ward.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
The voice that you just heard is the only reason
this show exists because without that heads in the clouds,
hope and optimism, there wouldn't be much for us to
talk about. His voice, his mind driving this show forward.
He is the R in the QR code. He goes
by the name ramses Jah. We need you to stick
around because we have a little bit more show left
(00:44):
for you. We're going to talk about the appeal of
ice so much so that the Superman actor Dean King,
the guy from the nineties, joined up and he's got
his reasons. And we're also going to talk about how
Donald Trump's approval rating has plummeted with black voters.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
No surprise there. But first it is time to listen
to Qwards clapback, and he's talking to us about how Trump,
funnily enough, has weaponized the Justice Department against Letitia James.
The Justice Department.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Gagged and gutted, infiltrated, and made whole with and by
Trump loyalists, fortified as you may, by Trump loyalist for
(01:42):
Trump's war on the truth, a war he is waging
and winning. So let's start from the beginning. Imagine you're
one of the top law enforcement officers in the United States.
(02:04):
You investigate, you present evidence, you win a case in
court to the tune of four hundred and fifty four
million dollars in penalties for fraud proven beyond a reasonable
doubt in a court of law, and instead of being
praised for upholding the rule of law, you get a subpoena. Well,
(02:32):
that thing I just asked you to imagine is the
reality for New York Attorney General Letitia James, not because
she did anything illegal, not for breaking the law, but
for enforcing it. Except this new regime does not believe
(02:53):
an accountability, not for themselves. So when held account what
we're now seeing is that they just do political payback
and retaliation. The Justice Department, now under Trump's control, has
subpoena James. The pretext allegations tied to a mortgage fraud
(03:18):
case timed right after her landmark civil fraud judgment against
the president. The optics crystal clear. This is baseline, regular definition,
straightforward retaliation, the same way that whistleblowers, watch dogs, and
(03:39):
investigators keep finding themselves under investigation when they cross this
administration and its head. You know, the Department of Justice
again that's supposed to be nonpartisan and independent, the same
Department of Justice that's supposed to protect the people's trust
(04:02):
in justice, except now they've become the personal.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Law form of the president.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
No longer law enforcement, but weaponized law for his benefit
at all times. In case you think this sounds or
feels familiar, it's because it comes from the same playbook
of every authoritarian leader throughout world history. Punished truth tellers,
(04:35):
protect loyalists at all costs. So what happens, Just let's
go down to the checklist. Watch Dogs are fired after
reporting ethics violations, Inspectors general removed for doing their jobs,
journalists banned from press briefings for asking hard questions, and
(04:58):
now state attorneys general who dare challenge the president's power
are dragged into legal fights strictly to drain their resources
and damage their credibility. And this is not an isolated move.
It's become a very clear pattern. And if you think
(05:18):
the goal is to win in court, you are mistaken.
The goal is to exhaust you, to wear you down,
and to make everyone think twice before challenging power. We've
seen versions of this before. Richard Nixon had his enemies list.
(05:42):
President Jagger Hoover used the FBI to harass civil rights
leaders like the late great doctor Martin Luther King Junior.
The idea, however, is the same. They use the law
as a shield for themselves, for the powerful, and as
(06:02):
a sword for anybody that challenges them. And once they
do it enough, all of us normalize it. It's not
just one ag in New York who's vulnerable. It's every judge,
every prosecutor, every journalist, and every citizen that refuses to
tow the line. This becomes the norm. Justice is no
(06:27):
longer blind, it's blindfolded. Retaliation cases like this send a message.
Truth has a cost. For some, that cost is your
career and your reputation. For others, that cost is freedom.
If they can do this to an attorney general with
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a legal team and a national platform. What can they
do to us? People call me out when I'm critical
of this administration. You just don't like. The truth is
this has nothing to do with liking or disliking Trump.
He's a single person. This is about whether the government
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belongs to the people or whether it's just another asset
for rich people and their balance sheet. If we let
the Department of Justice become an extension or his personal
defense team, we are saying goodbye to impartial justice. That's
not a partisan loss, that's an American loss. So what
(07:33):
we've learned is Donald Trump does not fear the law.
He's reshaping it in his own image. What he fears
is the truth. And if the Department of Justice becomes
a gag order for truth, then it's up to the
rest of us to keep using our voices. Because history
never remembers the people who stayed quiet. It remembers the
(07:54):
ones that refuse to be silenced. And trust me, we
have shown you again and again we are not going quietly.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
That way. All right, let's have some dialogue. Trump's approval
rating plummets with black voters. So yeah, like I said
at the top of the show. We we've been covering
the job losses, we've been covering kind of the changing
economic landscape of the country with respect to the disenfranchised,
(08:28):
historically disenfranchised and marginalized communities, in particular Black people, in
particular Black women. But these stories make their way to
us via the Black Information Network mostly, and you know,
other reputable, credible, well researched you know, articles and institutions,
(08:52):
and you know, we ourselves are our journalists, and so
sometimes we have to you know, get it from the source,
from the people actually conducting these these interviews, these you know, polls,
these experiments, et cetera. And so this is kind of
(09:15):
the next step. But this will sound like some of
the steps we've already taken, because this is what it
sounds like when the roof is collapsing in on itself.
So I'll share this article from Newswick and we'll go
from there. President Donald Trump's approval rating among black voters
has dropped sharply in recent months, according to the latest
The Economist slash you gov poll. Several recent polls have
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found Trump's net approval rating is underwater, with voters expressing
discontent on issues from the economy to immigration. Twenty twenty
four election saw Trump pick up a significant share of
Black voters, securing sixteen percent, and any erosion in support
could be problematic for Republicans. Ahead of the twenty twenty
six midterm elections, Trump's net approval rating among black voters
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dropped by twenty five points since May, according to the
economist Slash Yuga polls. The most recent poll, conducted between
August first and fourth among one thousand, seven hundred and
two US adults, found just eleven percent of Black responders
approve of Trump's job performance, while eighty four percent disapproved,
giving him a net approval rating of minus seventy three.
(10:20):
And the survey conducted in early May, twenty two percent
of Black voters said they approved of the job Trump
was doing, while sixty nine percent disapproved, giving him a
net approval rating of negative forty seven. Trump's net approval
ratings among black voters and the polls conducted in June
and July were negative fifty four and sixty four, respectively.
The August survey found that Black voters were the demographic
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least approving of the way Trump is handling issues including
the economy, inflation, and others. Only nine percent of Black
voters said they approved of the way Trump is handling
jobs and the economy, down from twenty four percent in May.
So that's twenty four percent down to nine percent. In comparison,
forty seven percent of white voters and thirty eight percent
of Hispanic voters say they approved of the way the
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president was handling those issues. When it came to inflation,
just eight percent of Black voters said they approved of
the job Trump was doing, down from nineteen percent in May,
while forty one percent of white voters said they approved
and thirty four percent of Hispanic voters said the same. Okay,
so a few things here, I'm going to set it off.
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A lot of uninformed, underinformed, or misinformed Black voters were
susceptible to Donald Trump, if I had to guess, the
same as any other race. Okay, but this administration is
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decidedly anti black, Like they look for the word black
so that they can remove it. They look for the
word black so that they can find an create a
new enemy out of whoever has espoused the term right
and women and trans and rights and inclusivity and all
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the other terms right. But a decidedly anti black administration
so the people that were marginally informed, under misinformed you
know whatever, that also happened to be black, that ended
up voting for Donald Trump perhaps have found out that WHOA,
this guy is doing stuff that is making life actually
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harder in terms of our immediate reality. It's making harder
regardless of where you stand on issues like we're talking
about approval rating. Let's go back to jobs. The conversation
we were having last week, in the week before, the
losses of black jobs in this country is incredible. I
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think there are more people unemployed now, more Black people
unemployed now than during the pandemic. I've read that somewhere.
I don't have the notes that don't hold me to
that exact phrase, but you know, you're welcome to look
that up on your own. And these polls are their polls,
their data. You know, we work with individuals. Doctor Christopher
(13:15):
Taler in California at I forget the school he's at,
but one of the UC schools, if I'm not mistaken.
He's the head of the Black Voter Project, and so
he has larger sample size of black you know, participants,
with what I believe to be more accurate data. And
he tells a slightly different story, not an altogether different story,
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but slightly different story in terms of the motivations of
people in the last election and why they voted the
way they did and what they expected and how many
of them there were. But I think again, what we're
seeing is kind of the find out part. You know,
everyone messed around and now they're all finding out there
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are people like me, people like you that are perhaps
overly informed. So you know, there's never a chance that
we're going to approve of this president because of who
he is as a human being. I think that I
speak for both of us Q and I say that fundamentally,
as a human being, he does not embody the best
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of what America is and should be in terms of
being represented on the national stage. And if I had
any doubt, that grab him by the P word comment
took me all the way out. Of course, I had
doubts long before then, long before he announced his run
for presidency. But this data right here really shows, And
we said it last week to you know, if you
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want to know the health of a society, pay attention
to black women. Pay attention. What we said was pay
attention to the how that society treats the lowest in
that society, and in this society since the beginning, it's
always been black women. Okay, So if you look at
the health of a society through that lens, you'll be
able to see what a that society if indeed you
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accept that the health of the society is determined by
how that society treats the lowest, and in this poll,
the lowest, if we're going to go with that term
has spoken, and I'd imagine if this is broken down
by gender, you'd find that there were even more women
that disapprove of Donald Trump's performance than men. So those
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are my thoughts, Q, anything you got.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
I wish poles were easier to read, right, because you
don't know who was polled.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
There's this, there's typically.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
There's typically us wishing we could meet the people that
were polled, you know, even if we can describe them
and they can be pointed to, and you know, you know,
because there's numbers here about how many people. But I
stopped trusting polls almost ten years ago because every poll
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available told me that Hillary Clinton was going to win
an election, and that she was going to win it
without much resistance. And then all of us watched a
reality TV show host known for being a con man
(16:24):
and scamming people and being racist and grabbing women by
the you know what, became the President of the United States.
So I want to be encouraged, and I'm sorry for
those who are listening because my brother tries to give
us like hopeful, encouraging news, and I'm apologetically not moved
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by any of it because I don't have a reason
to be. Like, I'm watching the same movie as everybody else.
I'm watching every scene in with the bad guy winning.
So I'm not going to keep thinking, Okay, this is
going to be the one. Like we all watched the
Game of Thrones and kept for months thinking this next episode,
the Starks are going to come back.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
They didn't.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
And you know, some good polling, I guess it's better
than some bad polling. Yeah, but you know, on the
other side of something good happening, I'll celebrate on the
other side of some good polling while I'm watching the
world fall apart us. I'm not moved by it, and
I'm not trying to be contrarian or pessimistic. I'm just
also not trying to let myself get falsely excited about something.
(17:38):
There should not have been enough black voters available for
the polling to show that the percentages fail. The guy
who hates black people having black support is awful. So,
you know, welcome home for some of us. But it's
hard for things like this to move me, if I may.
(17:59):
I've always appreciated that balance, you know, and sometimes you're
the optimist too. I just want to make sure that
I said that, but I was that balance.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
I'm not very often the optimist, not often. No, that's fair,
but but sometimes you know, and and that balance I
think is important because you know where where you where.
Some might call it pessimism. What I see is realism,
you know what I mean, Like it's it's that's fair.
(18:30):
You have never been unfair. And I don't think that
any of our listeners. I've never heard a comment or
anything like that suggesting that. And I think that you know,
this formula has been working. You know, obviously it's resonating
with people, and I think that people really do appreciate
the fact that we're not selling a dream. As a collective,
we're not selling them a dream, nor are we keeping
them kind of chained to the moment that they're in.
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You know there's a path forward, even if it's tough,
and even if it's a little rocky to get there.
And we also are, you know, often through through your lens,
taking inventory of our reality. And so I salute you,
and I love you, and I appreciate you, and I
know sometimes it gets hardy. It's hard for me, as
(19:13):
you know, and as our listeners clearly, Sie, But you know,
we got each other, man, and that's that's okay for now.
I'll go with that. That's okay forever for me. I'm
good with that. All right, Let's get to this. Dean
Kane guy, all right, entertainment. Okay. Superman actor Dean Kane
joins Ice Ck. All right. Dean kin was once the
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Man of Steel, but the TV superhero icon has a
new title. Cain, who played Superman in the nineteen ninety
series Leis and Clark The New Adventures of Superman, revealed
to fans that he enlisted as an officer in the
Federal Agency US Immigration and Customs Enforcement or ICE. According
to an August fifth video shared to Caine's social media channels,
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quote for those who don't know, I am a sworn
law enforcement officer as well as being a filmmaker, and
I fell it was important to join with our first
responders and help secure the safety of all Americans, not
just talk about it, unquote, Cain said, quote, so I
joined up unquote. Oh and by the way, this is
from USA today. They reached out to representatives for Cain
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and ICE for comment. Cain also used the minute and
half clip as an infomert sorry informal recruitment ad to
tout the great benefits of working for ICE, which reportedly
include a fifty thousand dollars signing bonus student loan repayment.
I wonder what Joe Biden would say about this enhanced
retirement benefits and special pay for individuals working in field
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operations and law enforcement roles. Quote. So, if you want
to help save America, ICE is arresting the worst of
the worst and removing them from America streets. I like that.
I voted for that, Cain said. He goes on to say,
they need your help. We need your help to protect
our homeland and our families. Caine's comments come amid increased
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scrutiny of ICE in recent months. Okay, Cue, why don't
you go first on this one? If there's anything left
all round it out.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
You tease this earlier in the show, and I'm like,
why isn't he's saying racist? Like like why is he
trying to search for the reason why Dean Kane might
want to join like Ice, Like what like there's an
answer that's like super obvious, And he's like, he's racist.
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He's racist. That's why he's hurrying up to sign. This
is why Superman is joining ICE. Superman was an immigrant,
by the way, to do so because he's racist. That
should be the whole segment. We don't how many times
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how today? Yeah, Like he's racist. That's why Superman is
joining a government agency where the entire job today is
to just arrest, detain, and deport as many brown skinned
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people as you can. The actor who once played Superman,
protect the homeland, protect America from Americans that don't look, love,
or think exactly the way you do. Because if they don't,
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there are others, which means they're bad and they're less
human than you, and they don't really deserve rights, they
don't really deserve for the law to be upheld. They
don't deserve dignity, they don't deserve self determination, they don't
deserve respect, they don't deserve due process because they're.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Not like you.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
You shouldn't even feel bad when you see them being violated, assaulted, kidnapped,
when you read reports of them being sexually assaulted while detained,
when you read the Supreme Court saying that these people
can be rounded up without due process, without probable cause, detained, deported,
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and sent to countries with whom we have no diplomatic relationship.
So the Supreme Court of our Land says, we can't
even guarantee that these people won't be killed or assaulted
or raped. We can't guarantee it because this administration can
send those people wherever they want. They've never been to
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where they don't speak the language, or they have no
relationships and no families and no place to go except
the prison we send them to having committed no crime
at all, not as a punishment for a crime, but
because we felt like it, because the officers that pulled
up that day thought they looked like bad people, like
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lesser than like others. Except the truth is, some of
these people look like you're next door neighbor, your coworker,
your classmate.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Rams As I see you raising your hand, I'm just
I'm agreeing with you. But one of the things I'll
add while we're here. I think it's so funny and
it's ironic that you know, I mentioned earlier that Superman,
because that's what this guy's known for, is playing Superman.
Don't think ever had any other roles. But Superman was
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an immigrant. It was not born in the United States
from different It was more specifically an alien. Thank you,
Q and uh, I'm not sure that that was ever
in the cannon that Superman went through the citizenship process
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or whatever. But one of the things that I want
to go back to while I have the little bit
of time here, and then I'll give it back to
you because I know you're making a bigger point. But
when he says the worst of the worst, I says,
arresting the worst of the worst. You know, we have
the data, and I don't have it in front of
me at present, just because it's a passing thought. We
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have the data that suggests that most of the people
that they're arresting have no criminal history, and some of
them with a criminal history. It's so mild. It's equivalent
to like, like like traffic offenses and things like that.
The hardened criminals they're not enough of them to justify
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this whole ice thing. And then something else that you
said earlier, and I do want you to round out
the thought is you said that this appeals to people
who would do it for free, the people that would
get out there get that fifty thousand dollars signing bonus.
There were some other benefits you mentioned when we were
talking in our production meeting, and you said that these
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are people who want they're like bullies or something like that,
and I just wanted you to kind of go with
that because it was so compelling. But anyway, go ahead.
I mean, this is information that you shared too. This
wasn't just production meeting. You said it.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Fifty thousand dollars signing bonus to student loan forgiveness. That
was it, all the things, all the things. The country
was just off at Joe Biden for suggesting we do.
But yeah, let's do it for these guys who are
bullies and racist and they've been giving a license, a
badge and an assault rifle and the agency to go
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and be blatant, flagrant racist to people of color just
because they feel like it. With impunity, they won't be
brought up on charges. They won't be held accountable. There'll
be nobody to push back. They're making this job so
attractive so they can get the numbers they need to
turn a federal agency into an army against the people
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of this country. They will have a larger budget than
the army of several countries around the world developed countries.
This agency will have a larger budget than most countries military,
with their sole purpose being to round up black and
brown people, detain, deport or, far more nefariously turn into
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free labor. As they spend hundreds of millions of dollars
right now building new concentration camps all around the country
and hiring private companies to facilitate them. Just so happened
to be the same companies that donate it to somebody's campaign.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
I wonder who Trump and that's going to do it
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Still broadcasting from the Civic Cipher Studios. This is the
QR code where we share perspective, seek understanding, and shape outcomes.
The man you are about to hear from is the
balance in this great equation that we have. He is
the person that keeps me grounded and keeps me focused
and keeps my hands out of the clouds. He is
the Q and the QR code, and he goes by
the name of the q Ward.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
The voice that you just heard is the only reason
this show exists because without that heads in the clouds,
hope and optimism, there wouldn't be much for us to
talk about. His voice, his mind driving this show forward.
He is the R in the QR code. He goes
by the name ramses Jah. We need you to stick
around because we have a little bit more show left
(00:44):
for you. We're going to talk about the appeal of
ice so much so that the Superman actor Dean King,
the guy from the nineties, joined up and he's got
his reasons. And we're also going to talk about how
Donald Trump's approval rating has plummeted with black voters.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
No surprise there. But first it is time to listen
to Qwards clapback, and he's talking to us about how Trump,
funnily enough, has weaponized the Justice Department against Letitia James.
The Justice Department.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Gagged and gutted, infiltrated, and made whole with and by
Trump loyalists, fortified as you may, by Trump loyalist for
(01:42):
Trump's war on the truth, a war he is waging
and winning. So let's start from the beginning. Imagine you're
one of the top law enforcement officers in the United States.
(02:04):
You investigate, you present evidence, you win a case in
court to the tune of four hundred and fifty four
million dollars in penalties for fraud proven beyond a reasonable
doubt in a court of law, and instead of being
praised for upholding the rule of law, you get a subpoena. Well,
(02:32):
that thing I just asked you to imagine is the
reality for New York Attorney General Letitia James, not because
she did anything illegal, not for breaking the law, but
for enforcing it. Except this new regime does not believe
(02:53):
an accountability, not for themselves. So when held account what
we're now seeing is that they just do political payback
and retaliation. The Justice Department, now under Trump's control, has
subpoena James. The pretext allegations tied to a mortgage fraud
(03:18):
case timed right after her landmark civil fraud judgment against
the president. The optics crystal clear. This is baseline, regular definition,
straightforward retaliation, the same way that whistleblowers, watch dogs, and
(03:39):
investigators keep finding themselves under investigation when they cross this
administration and its head. You know, the Department of Justice
again that's supposed to be nonpartisan and independent, the same
Department of Justice that's supposed to protect the people's trust
(04:02):
in justice, except now they've become the personal.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Law form of the president.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
No longer law enforcement, but weaponized law for his benefit
at all times. In case you think this sounds or
feels familiar, it's because it comes from the same playbook
of every authoritarian leader throughout world history. Punished truth tellers,
(04:35):
protect loyalists at all costs. So what happens, Just let's
go down to the checklist. Watch Dogs are fired after
reporting ethics violations, Inspectors general removed for doing their jobs,
journalists banned from press briefings for asking hard questions, and
(04:58):
now state attorneys general who dare challenge the president's power
are dragged into legal fights strictly to drain their resources
and damage their credibility. And this is not an isolated move.
It's become a very clear pattern. And if you think
(05:18):
the goal is to win in court, you are mistaken.
The goal is to exhaust you, to wear you down,
and to make everyone think twice before challenging power. We've
seen versions of this before. Richard Nixon had his enemies list.
(05:42):
President Jagger Hoover used the FBI to harass civil rights
leaders like the late great doctor Martin Luther King Junior.
The idea, however, is the same. They use the law
as a shield for themselves, for the powerful, and as
(06:02):
a sword for anybody that challenges them. And once they
do it enough, all of us normalize it. It's not
just one ag in New York who's vulnerable. It's every judge,
every prosecutor, every journalist, and every citizen that refuses to
tow the line. This becomes the norm. Justice is no
(06:27):
longer blind, it's blindfolded. Retaliation cases like this send a message.
Truth has a cost. For some, that cost is your
career and your reputation. For others, that cost is freedom.
If they can do this to an attorney general with
(06:47):
a legal team and a national platform. What can they
do to us? People call me out when I'm critical
of this administration. You just don't like. The truth is
this has nothing to do with liking or disliking Trump.
He's a single person. This is about whether the government
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belongs to the people or whether it's just another asset
for rich people and their balance sheet. If we let
the Department of Justice become an extension or his personal
defense team, we are saying goodbye to impartial justice. That's
not a partisan loss, that's an American loss. So what
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we've learned is Donald Trump does not fear the law.
He's reshaping it in his own image. What he fears
is the truth. And if the Department of Justice becomes
a gag order for truth, then it's up to the
rest of us to keep using our voices. Because history
never remembers the people who stayed quiet. It remembers the
(07:54):
ones that refuse to be silenced. And trust me, we
have shown you again and again we are not going quietly.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
That way. All right, let's have some dialogue. Trump's approval
rating plummets with black voters. So yeah, like I said
at the top of the show. We we've been covering
the job losses, we've been covering kind of the changing
economic landscape of the country with respect to the disenfranchised,
(08:28):
historically disenfranchised and marginalized communities, in particular Black people, in
particular Black women. But these stories make their way to
us via the Black Information Network mostly, and you know,
other reputable, credible, well researched you know, articles and institutions,
(08:52):
and you know, we ourselves are our journalists, and so
sometimes we have to you know, get it from the source,
from the people actually conducting these these interviews, these you know, polls,
these experiments, et cetera. And so this is kind of
(09:15):
the next step. But this will sound like some of
the steps we've already taken, because this is what it
sounds like when the roof is collapsing in on itself.
So I'll share this article from Newswick and we'll go
from there. President Donald Trump's approval rating among black voters
has dropped sharply in recent months, according to the latest
The Economist slash you gov poll. Several recent polls have
(09:38):
found Trump's net approval rating is underwater, with voters expressing
discontent on issues from the economy to immigration. Twenty twenty
four election saw Trump pick up a significant share of
Black voters, securing sixteen percent, and any erosion in support
could be problematic for Republicans. Ahead of the twenty twenty
six midterm elections, Trump's net approval rating among black voters
(10:00):
dropped by twenty five points since May, according to the
economist Slash Yuga polls. The most recent poll, conducted between
August first and fourth among one thousand, seven hundred and
two US adults, found just eleven percent of Black responders
approve of Trump's job performance, while eighty four percent disapproved,
giving him a net approval rating of minus seventy three.
(10:20):
And the survey conducted in early May, twenty two percent
of Black voters said they approved of the job Trump
was doing, while sixty nine percent disapproved, giving him a
net approval rating of negative forty seven. Trump's net approval
ratings among black voters and the polls conducted in June
and July were negative fifty four and sixty four, respectively.
The August survey found that Black voters were the demographic
(10:41):
least approving of the way Trump is handling issues including
the economy, inflation, and others. Only nine percent of Black
voters said they approved of the way Trump is handling
jobs and the economy, down from twenty four percent in May.
So that's twenty four percent down to nine percent. In comparison,
forty seven percent of white voters and thirty eight percent
of Hispanic voters say they approved of the way the
(11:02):
president was handling those issues. When it came to inflation,
just eight percent of Black voters said they approved of
the job Trump was doing, down from nineteen percent in May,
while forty one percent of white voters said they approved
and thirty four percent of Hispanic voters said the same. Okay,
so a few things here, I'm going to set it off.
(11:28):
A lot of uninformed, underinformed, or misinformed Black voters were
susceptible to Donald Trump, if I had to guess, the
same as any other race. Okay, but this administration is
(11:50):
decidedly anti black, Like they look for the word black
so that they can remove it. They look for the
word black so that they can find an create a
new enemy out of whoever has espoused the term right
and women and trans and rights and inclusivity and all
(12:12):
the other terms right. But a decidedly anti black administration
so the people that were marginally informed, under misinformed you
know whatever, that also happened to be black, that ended
up voting for Donald Trump perhaps have found out that WHOA,
this guy is doing stuff that is making life actually
(12:35):
harder in terms of our immediate reality. It's making harder
regardless of where you stand on issues like we're talking
about approval rating. Let's go back to jobs. The conversation
we were having last week, in the week before, the
losses of black jobs in this country is incredible. I
(12:55):
think there are more people unemployed now, more Black people
unemployed now than during the pandemic. I've read that somewhere.
I don't have the notes that don't hold me to
that exact phrase, but you know, you're welcome to look
that up on your own. And these polls are their polls,
their data. You know, we work with individuals. Doctor Christopher
(13:15):
Taler in California at I forget the school he's at,
but one of the UC schools, if I'm not mistaken.
He's the head of the Black Voter Project, and so
he has larger sample size of black you know, participants,
with what I believe to be more accurate data. And
he tells a slightly different story, not an altogether different story,
(13:39):
but slightly different story in terms of the motivations of
people in the last election and why they voted the
way they did and what they expected and how many
of them there were. But I think again, what we're
seeing is kind of the find out part. You know,
everyone messed around and now they're all finding out there
(14:00):
are people like me, people like you that are perhaps
overly informed. So you know, there's never a chance that
we're going to approve of this president because of who
he is as a human being. I think that I
speak for both of us Q and I say that fundamentally,
as a human being, he does not embody the best
(14:20):
of what America is and should be in terms of
being represented on the national stage. And if I had
any doubt, that grab him by the P word comment
took me all the way out. Of course, I had
doubts long before then, long before he announced his run
for presidency. But this data right here really shows, And
we said it last week to you know, if you
(14:41):
want to know the health of a society, pay attention
to black women. Pay attention. What we said was pay
attention to the how that society treats the lowest in
that society, and in this society since the beginning, it's
always been black women. Okay, So if you look at
the health of a society through that lens, you'll be
able to see what a that society if indeed you
(15:02):
accept that the health of the society is determined by
how that society treats the lowest, and in this poll,
the lowest, if we're going to go with that term
has spoken, and I'd imagine if this is broken down
by gender, you'd find that there were even more women
that disapprove of Donald Trump's performance than men. So those
(15:24):
are my thoughts, Q, anything you got.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
I wish poles were easier to read, right, because you
don't know who was polled.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
There's this, there's typically.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
There's typically us wishing we could meet the people that
were polled, you know, even if we can describe them
and they can be pointed to, and you know, you know,
because there's numbers here about how many people. But I
stopped trusting polls almost ten years ago because every poll
(16:03):
available told me that Hillary Clinton was going to win
an election, and that she was going to win it
without much resistance. And then all of us watched a
reality TV show host known for being a con man
(16:24):
and scamming people and being racist and grabbing women by
the you know what, became the President of the United States.
So I want to be encouraged, and I'm sorry for
those who are listening because my brother tries to give
us like hopeful, encouraging news, and I'm apologetically not moved
(16:50):
by any of it because I don't have a reason
to be. Like, I'm watching the same movie as everybody else.
I'm watching every scene in with the bad guy winning.
So I'm not going to keep thinking, Okay, this is
going to be the one. Like we all watched the
Game of Thrones and kept for months thinking this next episode,
the Starks are going to come back.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
They didn't.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
And you know, some good polling, I guess it's better
than some bad polling. Yeah, but you know, on the
other side of something good happening, I'll celebrate on the
other side of some good polling while I'm watching the
world fall apart us. I'm not moved by it, and
I'm not trying to be contrarian or pessimistic. I'm just
also not trying to let myself get falsely excited about something.
(17:38):
There should not have been enough black voters available for
the polling to show that the percentages fail. The guy
who hates black people having black support is awful. So,
you know, welcome home for some of us. But it's
hard for things like this to move me, if I may.
(17:59):
I've always appreciated that balance, you know, and sometimes you're
the optimist too. I just want to make sure that
I said that, but I was that balance.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
I'm not very often the optimist, not often. No, that's fair,
but but sometimes you know, and and that balance I
think is important because you know where where you where.
Some might call it pessimism. What I see is realism,
you know what I mean, Like it's it's that's fair.
(18:30):
You have never been unfair. And I don't think that
any of our listeners. I've never heard a comment or
anything like that suggesting that. And I think that you know,
this formula has been working. You know, obviously it's resonating
with people, and I think that people really do appreciate
the fact that we're not selling a dream. As a collective,
we're not selling them a dream, nor are we keeping
them kind of chained to the moment that they're in.
(18:52):
You know there's a path forward, even if it's tough,
and even if it's a little rocky to get there.
And we also are, you know, often through through your lens,
taking inventory of our reality. And so I salute you,
and I love you, and I appreciate you, and I
know sometimes it gets hardy. It's hard for me, as
(19:13):
you know, and as our listeners clearly, Sie, But you know,
we got each other, man, and that's that's okay for now.
I'll go with that. That's okay forever for me. I'm
good with that. All right, Let's get to this. Dean
Kane guy, all right, entertainment. Okay. Superman actor Dean Kane
joins Ice Ck. All right. Dean kin was once the
(19:33):
Man of Steel, but the TV superhero icon has a
new title. Cain, who played Superman in the nineteen ninety
series Leis and Clark The New Adventures of Superman, revealed
to fans that he enlisted as an officer in the
Federal Agency US Immigration and Customs Enforcement or ICE. According
to an August fifth video shared to Caine's social media channels,
(19:54):
quote for those who don't know, I am a sworn
law enforcement officer as well as being a filmmaker, and
I fell it was important to join with our first
responders and help secure the safety of all Americans, not
just talk about it, unquote, Cain said, quote, so I
joined up unquote. Oh and by the way, this is
from USA today. They reached out to representatives for Cain
(20:18):
and ICE for comment. Cain also used the minute and
half clip as an infomert sorry informal recruitment ad to
tout the great benefits of working for ICE, which reportedly
include a fifty thousand dollars signing bonus student loan repayment.
I wonder what Joe Biden would say about this enhanced
retirement benefits and special pay for individuals working in field
(20:41):
operations and law enforcement roles. Quote. So, if you want
to help save America, ICE is arresting the worst of
the worst and removing them from America streets. I like that.
I voted for that, Cain said. He goes on to say,
they need your help. We need your help to protect
our homeland and our families. Caine's comments come amid increased
(21:05):
scrutiny of ICE in recent months. Okay, Cue, why don't
you go first on this one? If there's anything left
all round it out.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
You tease this earlier in the show, and I'm like,
why isn't he's saying racist? Like like why is he
trying to search for the reason why Dean Kane might
want to join like Ice, Like what like there's an
answer that's like super obvious, And he's like, he's racist.
(21:43):
He's racist. That's why he's hurrying up to sign. This
is why Superman is joining ICE. Superman was an immigrant,
by the way, to do so because he's racist. That
should be the whole segment. We don't how many times
(22:05):
how today? Yeah, Like he's racist. That's why Superman is
joining a government agency where the entire job today is
to just arrest, detain, and deport as many brown skinned
(22:29):
people as you can. The actor who once played Superman,
protect the homeland, protect America from Americans that don't look, love,
or think exactly the way you do. Because if they don't,
(22:52):
there are others, which means they're bad and they're less
human than you, and they don't really deserve rights, they
don't really deserve for the law to be upheld. They
don't deserve dignity, they don't deserve self determination, they don't
deserve respect, they don't deserve due process because they're.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Not like you.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
You shouldn't even feel bad when you see them being violated, assaulted, kidnapped,
when you read reports of them being sexually assaulted while detained,
when you read the Supreme Court saying that these people
can be rounded up without due process, without probable cause, detained, deported,
(23:37):
and sent to countries with whom we have no diplomatic relationship.
So the Supreme Court of our Land says, we can't
even guarantee that these people won't be killed or assaulted
or raped. We can't guarantee it because this administration can
send those people wherever they want. They've never been to
(24:01):
where they don't speak the language, or they have no
relationships and no families and no place to go except
the prison we send them to having committed no crime
at all, not as a punishment for a crime, but
because we felt like it, because the officers that pulled
up that day thought they looked like bad people, like
(24:27):
lesser than like others. Except the truth is, some of
these people look like you're next door neighbor, your coworker,
your classmate.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Rams As I see you raising your hand, I'm just
I'm agreeing with you. But one of the things I'll
add while we're here. I think it's so funny and
it's ironic that you know, I mentioned earlier that Superman,
because that's what this guy's known for, is playing Superman.
Don't think ever had any other roles. But Superman was
(25:04):
an immigrant. It was not born in the United States
from different It was more specifically an alien. Thank you,
Q and uh, I'm not sure that that was ever
in the cannon that Superman went through the citizenship process
(25:28):
or whatever. But one of the things that I want
to go back to while I have the little bit
of time here, and then I'll give it back to
you because I know you're making a bigger point. But
when he says the worst of the worst, I says,
arresting the worst of the worst. You know, we have
the data, and I don't have it in front of
me at present, just because it's a passing thought. We
(25:48):
have the data that suggests that most of the people
that they're arresting have no criminal history, and some of
them with a criminal history. It's so mild. It's equivalent
to like, like like traffic offenses and things like that.
The hardened criminals they're not enough of them to justify
(26:09):
this whole ice thing. And then something else that you
said earlier, and I do want you to round out
the thought is you said that this appeals to people
who would do it for free, the people that would
get out there get that fifty thousand dollars signing bonus.
There were some other benefits you mentioned when we were
talking in our production meeting, and you said that these
(26:31):
are people who want they're like bullies or something like that,
and I just wanted you to kind of go with
that because it was so compelling. But anyway, go ahead.
I mean, this is information that you shared too. This
wasn't just production meeting. You said it.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Fifty thousand dollars signing bonus to student loan forgiveness. That
was it, all the things, all the things. The country
was just off at Joe Biden for suggesting we do.
But yeah, let's do it for these guys who are
bullies and racist and they've been giving a license, a
badge and an assault rifle and the agency to go
(27:09):
and be blatant, flagrant racist to people of color just
because they feel like it. With impunity, they won't be
brought up on charges. They won't be held accountable. There'll
be nobody to push back. They're making this job so
attractive so they can get the numbers they need to
turn a federal agency into an army against the people
(27:32):
of this country. They will have a larger budget than
the army of several countries around the world developed countries.
This agency will have a larger budget than most countries military,
with their sole purpose being to round up black and
brown people, detain, deport or, far more nefariously turn into
(28:00):
free labor. As they spend hundreds of millions of dollars
right now building new concentration camps all around the country
and hiring private companies to facilitate them. Just so happened
to be the same companies that donate it to somebody's campaign.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
I wonder who Trump and that's going to do it
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