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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Still broadcasting from the Civic Cypher Studios. This is the
QR code where we share perspective, seek understanding and shape outcomes.
The man you are about to hear from is a
man who has been around the world and aii, but
he hails from the Great Seven Mile in Detroit, Michigan.
He is the q and the QR code. He goes
by the name of q War.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
The voice that you just heard hails from one of
the most historic, most celebrated, most famous inner city areas
in North America. Some of the most famous creators, artist, producers,
and talents of our lifetime grew like roses from concrete
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from the very same Compton, California that they r in
the QR code.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
King ramses Jah hails from.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
And we need you to stick around. Later we're going
to be talking about a black podcaster that was refused
entrance into a Turning Point USA event, whose vision is
very much aligned with theirs, but refuse.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Nonetheless, We're just going to ask some dialogue. What was your
biggest fear or what is your biggest fear? We don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
We're going to ask each other and find out in
front of you. But right now it's time for Q
words clapback where he talks to us about how they
will turn on you too cute.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I think this is another instance where it's it's more.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Of a expression of some things that I'm having trouble
dealing with than a clapback.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
So I'll try to express this.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
As clearly and calmly as I can and as truthfully
as I can. If you listen with any frequency, you
hear Rams and I talk about others in this country,
the original other black people, but in recent years, immigrants, Muslims,
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the OLGBTQ.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Community, women, or people.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Whoever's next on the political chopping block of the conservative
right wing gop MAGA party. And here's the part that
so many don't understand, not just those that are in
their own exclusive US versus our excluded them, but those
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who should have solidarity. I'm sorry with each of these groups,
but somehow find themselves clinging to their proximity to whiteness.
The part that so many don't understand, especially some white
Americans that feel safely tucked inside of that US category.
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The truth is there's no permanent US in a system
that's built on supremacy, capitalist supremacy. At that there are
only temporary allies until the power seat doesn't need you anymore.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
And I don't want you to.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Think that this is just how I feel, because history
has made this painfully clear. The same wealthy elites and
extremist ideologies that are convincing people that they are a
part of a superior group are not motivated by solidarity
or loyalty. They're motivated by power, money, and control. What
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happens when there are no more others left? Rams right,
you've blamed everybody forever, and now you're blaming and kicking
people out. Well, when there's no more others left, it will,
because it always has turned inward. They will begin to
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devour their own. And it'll start with you that think
you're aligned, that never belonged in the first place, that
didn't even fit the description. But some of you will
feel like you suddenly became bad because hierarchy and capitalism
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require someone to be beneath you to function. That's how
these systems work. There always has to be an enemy,
and there always has to be a bottom class for
you to step on. So when people say, first they
came for black people, then they came for immigrant, then
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they came for women, and Eventually there will be no
one else left to come for. This is not them
being melodramatic. This is the emotional and political math of authoritarianism.
It's just history. Nazi Germany, many ordinary Germans initially believed
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that their whiteness and nationalism would insulate them, but then
became economic exploitation, surveillance, state violence, political purges, and German
citizens got swallowed by it too. Those that were poor, disable, dissenting,
or just simply inconvenient. The regime eventually devoured its own
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party members, the same with the partheid South Africa. White
elites controlled this system. Poor white Afrikaaners was still economically abandoned,
distracted with this illusion of racial superiority, the same illusion
they use here. The psychological benefit of whiteness was handed
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to them, but no actual, real material support. Jim Crow America,
Wealthy Southern elites convinced poor whites to align with their
racial hierarchy instead of economic justice. So that's how you
have centuries of poor white people voting to stay poor
as long as we can keep black people poor too.
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Millions of working class white Americans being told, hey, you're
a part of something superior. Your suffering isn't because of
corporate greed, wealth hoarding. It's the immigrants. It's because we
let women voting, gave them rights, and black people are
speaking up. And there's LGBTQ things in your kids classrooms,
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and you know, the bathrooms and sports and all these
things that don't matter. Meanwhile, the next time you get sick,
go to the doctor, let me know what that bill
looks like.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
The next time you spend.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Forty hours working in exchange for money, tell me what
that paycheck looks like. Addiction still ravaging our towns, communities
still struggling. Education is still underfunded, or this new regime
trying to get rid of the Department of Education altogether.
While corporate wealth is higher than it's spend in history
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by hundreds of billions and trillions of dollars. Oh yeah,
while our collective life expectancy is dropping. And maybe you
see a pattern here. The people yelling we're the superior
group are being hurt by the very policies that the
leaders that they voted for pass, the same leaders who
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assure them that they're part of the Chosen people. And
forgive me for talking too long, ramses, but this is
truth and it needs to be said, they don't actually
care about white people, either not poor or working class
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white people. They care about power. And power does not
have friends or allies. It has tools. And once a
tool stops being useful.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Well, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
History has shown us what happens if they kick a
hundred million immigrants out of the country. They don't have
one hundred million undocumented around people to kick out. So
they're now taking citizenship away from people so they can
kick them out. So let's play this out once they're
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all gone and there's no more immigrants here to blame. Women,
you're still here. Let's make sure we strip away your rights.
So they've already started that campaign. Let's make sure women
can't have bodily autonomy. Let's make sure their body our choice.
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They make jokes like that, and once women have been
stripped of their autonomy and their rights and their power,
we forgot about the LGBTQ community.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Let's get rid of all their protections.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Well, black people aren't considered immigrants anymore, but we've already
silenced their voices. Some of them are even on our side,
but we have no more u for them. There will
still be unemployment, there will still be poverty. There will
still be addiction, there will still be economic injustice, there
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will still be environmental protections that are gone. There will
still be all these broken systems and all these broken
people that lay in the wake of this regime. But
someone will still need to take the blame. And then
that end group shrinks again, so they move the goal post.
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You're not patriotic enough. Your great great great great grandfather
wasn't white enough. You weren't cruel enough to your neighbor.
You're not obedient enough to our Lord and savior. President,
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You're too poor to belong You know, you've really become
a drain on our society. And suddenly the people who
were cheering as they abused and took away the civil
rights and constitutional protections of others will realize far too late,
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when it's being taken away from them that the US
they thought they belonged to never included them in the
first place. That US has always only been reserved for
those at the very top. So when you guys hear
me sounding like I've lost hope and faith in these
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systems and the beliefs that I was taught, when I
say that, I'm afraid, and you hear my voice tremble,
and you hear what sounds like urgency. I'm not just
saying that because I'm a black man with black and
Mexican children, or as a radio host. I'm speaking two
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and for everyone. If you cheer for cruelty, if you
justify injustice, and if you celebrate exclusion, understand this. You
are helping build a system that will one day come
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for you and your children too. Because authoritarianism has no
loyalty to a US group. It has no compassion for
people who believed in it and wore its hats and
its T shirts. Capital hoarding elites have no love for
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the people that are waving the flags. One day that
circle of us will get smaller and smaller, and when
it's too late, people will suddenly realize it was never
us versus them. It was always power versus everyone else.
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And if you don't see it now, you will feel
it later. And maybe you don't, maybe you maybe you skate,
but remember you're leaving this country to your children. My
brother praise, my mother prays. I don't know that mine
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or hurt anymore. So I don't, but I'll ask them
to pray that enough of us wake up before we
reach that point, not because I want to be right.
I just don't want to keep watching other people's lives
be destroyed by this lie.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Well, I know that our final segment is going to
put that on full display for everyone to see. How
a system that you invest in time and resources and energy,
if it is a corrupt system, it will eventually consume
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you too. But for now, the biggest fear conversation what
we can have of it. I don't know if you
have anything that you want to shoehorn in here. If not,
I got something, but it's not pressing.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
My biggest fears have been expressed. That was the whole point.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Well, then I'll go.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
It's a little different because I'm kind of quantifying or
qualifying fear, probably in a different way. But you know,
once when I was really little, I got bit by
a dog. And I was three years old. I was
petting a dog in front of a fireplace. I wasn't
a mean kid. I was very kind to this dog.
I knew the dog. The dog's name was Josh, the
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little black dog sitting in front of the fireplace at
my dad's friend's house, and I was petting her dog
there and out of the thin blue sky. You just
bit bit me right in my little three year old arm.
And I remember seeing that deep purple socket whereas tooth
went into my arm. And you know, like three year
olds they have like a lot of baby fat on them,
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and I see the blood just pouring out of my
arm and I start screaming. And so I grew up
not very trusting of dogs. And everybody either made fun
of me for it was so embarrassing, and they couldn't
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understand why I just didn't want to be around a dog.
And they're like, oh, he doesn't bite, Oh he's a
nice dog, you know that sort of thing, And they
just couldn't understand the like the fear that grips you,
like it doesn't matter if he doesn't bite. Josh didn't
bite until he did. If they don't speak English and
it's a dog, it could bite you, right. But you know,
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I had to live with that. Everybody has a dog,
right every I think it's like one third of houses
have a dog.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Something crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
So when you're in school, you want to spend the
night with people, You want to hang out with your friends,
go to your house after school, that sort of thing.
One and three is going to have a dog running
out of the back, doesn't matter how big small, none
of that. And they like the dog licking their face,
so they think you like the dog licking your face,
and when you don't, they try to. They try to
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be the person that helps you overcome your fear in
that moment. Right Well, for me, how I ended up
overcoming my feet like the fear that kind of lasted
the longest in my life was from honest breathing, same
thing that helped me overcome, you know, my refusal to
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talk on a mic many many years ago. Breathing, breathe deep,
monitor your your breathing because you know another thing they said,
dogs can sense your fear. Oh great, so this dog
knows I'm afraid of it. Now it makes it angry,
you know what I mean. But breathing, controlling my heart rate,
trying my best to manage my movements, move slowly until
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I can get far enough away from the dog, you know,
and then having a physically bigger body certainly helped because
I grew up as well. But that's how I overcame
in and I used that framework to overcome subsequent fears
in my life. And I had to learn it on
my own. I still don't love dogs. I never will
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love dogs, but I'm not afraid of them anymore. You'll
never see a dog lick my face. I'm just not
a dog person. It's just that's crazy to me. But
you know, I get that dogs a lot of meaning
to people's lives and a lot of comfort and security
and whatever.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
So I don't kno get invited likes dogs. I just
I can't get jig you with dogs. But I overcame
my fear at least, So all right, let's move on.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Uh yeah, so what you were talking about, Q, these
people feeding a machine that will ultimately consume them.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
I think that this.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Story lays that bear fully, certainly for the people who
are first to be consumed by it, the people that
are looking to be close to that power when that
power was not even conceived to benefit them in any way,
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and will gladly use their resources to increase their reach.
So yeah, black Podcaster refused entrance to TPUSA event. I'll
share this from the Atlanta Black Star. And this is
an older story just to be fair, a few days ago,
but we didn't get a chance to get to it.
And so we're finally getting to it. Today, the tables
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turned on popular podcaster Myron Gains. Myron Gains. All right,
say it again, Myron Gains as he learned the hard
way that his hateful, racist, and spiteful rhetoric doesn't translate
when he tried to enter the ultra conservative Turning Point
USA's annual America Fest. Video shows security officials blocking Gains,
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the co host of the popular Fit and Fresh podcast,
from entering the event. Gaines's podcast has one point five
to seven million subscribers on YouTube and claims to quote
provide the truth to men on female's finance and fitness,
according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, which designated it
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as a hate group. In a video posted to TikTok
and re shared to TikTok on Saturday, December twentieth, Gaines,
dressed in a pair of black jeans and a black
Fit and Fresh T shirt, is seen waiting just outside
the entrance to America Fest while security lingers around him.
At one point, he even gets on his phone, possibly
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trying to find a way inside. The person narrating the
video says Turning Point, now run by the widow of
co founder and right wing political activist Charlie Kirk Erica
Kirk is not allowing Muslims inside the venue. Gaines, let
me say it again. It's his name again, Myron Gaines. Okay,
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Myron Gaines, whose real name is Amru food.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Deal FOODI or foodle.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
I can't see it, but Amru foodle I think this
is what it is, regularly lectures listeners on the superiority
of men over women and their right to dominate women.
He even wrote a book titled Why Women Deserve Less,
which caters to the rise of hatefulness against women by
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the modern male in cell culture. In cells, as described
by the Anti Defamation League, are heterosexual men who blame
women and society for their lack of romantic success. Critics say,
unfortunately for Gaines, he got a first hand taste of
Republican racism as TPUSA refused to let him in. Not
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only is Gaines a racist misogynist, the Southern Poverty Law
Center says, over the past couple of years, the black
podcaster has been amplifying anti Semitic sentiments and aligning himself
with white nationals. He, his co host, and their podcast
guest have denied the Holocaust, groveled over Hitler and supported
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conspiracy theories quote about Jewish power and greed, unquote white nationalists.
Podcaster Nick one Tests and other guests were filmed giving
the Nazi salute on the set of Fred Fresh and
Fit Gaines jokingly has even said he taught his dog
the Nazi salute. Okay, so a couple of things I'll
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mention here. I mean, I want you to make the
connection yourself, Cube, but I just want to get a
couple of bars off if I can. Nick Foye Tests
has has said, you know what, this movement isn't for
you Black people. Thank you for your comments or whatever,
but like, honestly, I'd rather you not leave a comment.
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This isn't for you, effectively saying like we hate you too.
I mean, we got it from here, right, so we
don't need you anymore.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
So.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
The fact that Nick foin Test is like buddy buddy
with this guy is crazy black skin right.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
But I want to circle.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Back to in cells because we've talked about in cells
and in cell culture many times on.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
I'm not sure which shows we've.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Talked about in cells on, but I know that we've
had conversations a few times about in cells.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
And in cells are.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Sort of the perfect group to be taken advantage of.
It's one thing to be poor, economically disadvantaged and look
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around and say, Okay, these people have stolen wealth that
should rightfully be mine. Whoever these people are in this example,
you could be looking at rich billionaires, or you could
be looking at black people and Mexican people taking your jobs.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
What I'm saying is that for you to accept that
is your reality. I'm a poor person. Things didn't work
out for me. This is my life. That is one
thing that I think people can come to terms with
more easily than I am. Unlovable, uh, and I will
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not have any romantic success. I think that there is
a biological component there, Like you know, there's people.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
People have been people for.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I don't know, two hundred thousand years, a hundred thousand years,
dependent on how you ask. But we've been more or
less in this form going back maybe two million years,
dependent on you know who you ask. So we have
a lot of history of cooperation with each other. We
have a lot of history of no money. Money is
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relatively speaking of modern invention, and so when you compare
these modern concepts and modern inventions to biology, which is
as old as we are and older, the need to
pro create, the drive, I should say, to procreate, you
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get people that are going to be frustrated every day
of their life, and those people are that's fertile ground
for people that want to pad their numbers against a
group that they've decided needs to be othered. And so
this is why in cells tend to be angry because
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the powers that be have given them an enemy, and
insul culture has risen up. Okay, but what I want
to offer in cells is not something political, but really
something biological. Successful individuals in a species are those who
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can find a way to procreate. And if you lack
the social skills or whatever, the temperament or the character
to procure a partner that is willing to procreate with you,
I'd say that that's biology doing what it does. Forty
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percent of men already will never father children, forty percent
of human men across the board, and it seems like
biology is saying that you should be one of them.
So I wanted to make sure I offer that up
to people that follow this guy and even make his
name a name that we mentioned on this show. Que
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anything to add here before we wrap.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
I mean you know, the zelot like cult, like boot
licking culture that they've established. He won't even be offended
enough by this to not follow them anymore.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Oh, not at all. Yeah, he's still going.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Like they're saying you don't belong here, literally, like this
isn't even a figurative thing. You can't get in, Like
you've been denied access to the club. And he's still
going to market that club and post it on his
Instagram and pass out the flyers.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Like imagine that.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Imagine being the club promoter that can't go to the
club you promoted. That was a good one. He putting
the flyers on cars. It's in his story, it's in
his main feed. He's paying for the radio ads out
of his own pocket. He got his name on the flyer.
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He outside calling rams and quo, I'm out here.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Trying to get in.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Man, that's embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
But uh, I think again, it speaks to your point
that this machine uses everyone, And I mean that's the
nature of a machine that consumes. That's just what it does.
It consumes, and once it runs out of this group,
it'll turn to the next group, and the next group
is Consumption is sort of the name of the game
so well stated Q. I appreciate that, but that's going
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