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July 22, 2025 • 18 mins

On part 2 of today's podcast, Hosts Ramses Ja and Q Ward discuss the latest news surrounding President Trump's desire to have the Washington Commanders reverse their name.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Still broadcasting from the Civic Cipher studios. This is the
QR code where we share perspective, seek understanding, and shape outcomes.
He is your host and the Q in QR code.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
He is.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
A joy to be around and someone that I very
much enjoy doing this program with.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
He goes by the name of you Worn.

Speaker 4 (00:22):
The wonderful voice you hear on the other side of
that microphone is the R in the QR code. He
goes by the name Ramsay is Joah. He is your host.
I just work here. Be sure to stick around. We
still got a couple of things to run your way.
We are going to be.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Talking about how President Trump wants to re rename the
Washington Commanders back to the Washington Redskins. This is something
that feels just unkind, which is something that Q has
pointed out is consistent with kind of the theme of

(00:57):
this presidency.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
So we're going to talk about that.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
But before we get there, it's time for qwords clap back,
and he's going to talk to us about how justice
seems to be for sale and the privileged class always.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Seems to skirt accountability. Q talk to me.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
You know, it's an interesting thing, man, where the kind
of charm and kind of global light of America has
always been, you know, the land of the free, the
home of the brave, and we've always touted this equal
justice stance. The unfortunate truth, however, is that we know
better because when rich and powerful people break the law,

(01:36):
they get a podcast or a pardon, or a pass
or a job in government, and when the rest of
us do the same, we get a record, a mugshot,
a headline. So I just wanted to have a conversation
about that. We live in a country where the elites
can dodge every form of accountability, assault, financial fraud, inciting

(02:04):
an exurrection. It doesn't matter if you have money, influence,
or the right friends in power. If that's the case,
in most cases, you'll skate. You might get a book deal,
you might get to go sign autographs of candy wrappers,
or get invited to state dinners. Meanwhile, ordinary people like

(02:26):
myself and the listeners, working class folks, students, single mothers,
people of color, they get handcuffs, debt, and of course
no second chance. And what's worse is that the people
in charge are not hiding that anymore. The incoming administration

(02:48):
has already given pardons to the writers who stormed the
capitol and assaulted officers on January sixth. Let me be clear,
this was not a peaceful protests and those were not
patriots that you've now seen on that video.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
I don't know how many times. If they were not.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
They're at the behest of the former president and now
you know, re elected president. They would have been called terrorist,
radicalized by his lies, and embodened by blatant racism. But
they were offered forgiveness, given another chance, pardoned, while people
who actually protest things like police violence are sitting in jail,

(03:33):
sales trans kids being vilified in state houses. It isn't justice,
it's rewarding violence as long as that violence serves the
right people. Same crew that claims to care about law
and order, that campaigned on being tough on crime, that's

(03:55):
until the leader of their party got indicted, tried, and
convicted of thirty four felonies.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Now they rewrite the rules.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
Crime is just as we stated before, political persecution, you know, treason,
free speech, and accountability. Yeah right, that's only for people
without a flag waving mob behind them. And if you
think it stops at the top, you haven't been paying attention.

(04:28):
There are people right now who are waking up realizing
that the party that they supported doesn't care about them
as they watch their kids' schools go underfunded hospitals, where
their parents are closing jobs, being shipped overseas or replaced
by AI. Oh, when their taxes are still high like

(04:49):
the price of eggs and gas, while billionaire's fund campaigns
to take away the little bit that they have left.
But when Ramses and I warned them what we were
called divisive. I was called by friends personal people that
I know a fearmonger.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Two woke.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
And now that pain is starting to show up at
some of those people's doorsteps. Oh, now they want to talk.
And according to my brother, and I'm going to follow
his lead, we should let them. We don't have to forget,
but there does have to be a road back. Because
if you only believe in law and order when it

(05:31):
applies to someone else, and you don't believe in justice
but you believe in control, this is the country that
you end up with. If you pardon traders while punishing
truth tellers, you're not saving democracy, you're burning it down
from within. And if the privileged class keeps skirting consequences.

(05:52):
Just know there are more of us than there are
of them, and I know that ramse Deni in particular,
are just done pretending that the Emperor's close or anything
but a prison jumpsuit in disguise, mister joh.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Well said, and as eloquent as ever. You know, I'm
reminded of Brian Stevenson is a great inspiration for me,
and I would say was one of the great inspirations

(06:31):
for Civic Side. For our first national show, he's on
record saying Brian Stevenson, for those that don't know, is
the person who's at the helm of the Equal Justice
Initiative basically as a civil rights attorney, and he seeks
to overturn people who are wrongfully convicted. Oftentimes these are

(06:54):
black and brown people, poor people, etc.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
But he's on record.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
I think this might have been a ted talk of
his where he says something that just stayed with me,
and I think this is almost a direct quote, but
it's coming from memory, but he says something effectually. What
he says either way is that we have a criminal
justice system in this country that treats you better if
you're rich and guilty then if you're poor and innocent,

(07:26):
and granted he's talking about the criminal justice system, not
necessarily about anything in the political arena. But I think that,
you know, there's a lot of connective tissue between the two.
I mean, I'm sure no one would disagree with that.
There's a lot of connective tissue with that. But between
those two entities governmental agencies, you end up kind of

(07:51):
understanding the culture of this country and how just how
insulated wealthy people are.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
So I think you're right, you absolutely.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
All right.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Donald Trump wants the Washington Commanders football team to reverse
their name change. I'll just get right into it, and
we're gonna pass this to Q. No pun intended this
from fores. President Donald Trump called for the Washington Commanders
to immediately change their name back to the Washington Redskins,

(08:23):
the controversial moniker criticized for years as a racial slur
that the team abandoned in twenty twenty, suggesting he'd intervene
to block a multi billion dollar deal for a new
stadium in Washington, DC if the name isn't changed back.
In a post on true Social on Sunday morning, Trump

(08:44):
claimed there was a big clamoring for the Commanders to
return to their original name and instructed the team owners
to get it done. That's in all caps and quotes
with three exclamation points. Trump also mentioned the Cleveland Guardians
who changed their name and mascot from the Cleveland Indians, insisting,
without further elaborating that quote, our great Indian people, in

(09:07):
massive numbers want this to happen unquote. Trump followed up
with a separate post Sunday afternoons, saying, quote, if they
don't change the name back to the original Washington Redskins
and get rid of the ridiculous moniker Washington Commanders, I
won't make a deal for them to build a stadium
in Washington unquote, claiming his original statement had totally blown up.

(09:28):
Trump has criticized the name change to reporters multiple times
in the past, but ramped up the call for change Sunday,
claiming quote times are different now than they were three.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
Or four years ago.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
A deal for the redevelopment of the RFK Stadium site
in Washington, d C to become the Commander's new stadium
is under consideration by the DC City Council. If the
three point seven billion dollar deal is greenlit, it would
pave the way for NFL football to return to Washington
proper for the first time since nineteen ninety six. Okay,
as I mentioned Q, it's all you, but I want

(10:00):
to say something here that I think is going to
set you off. You've mentioned this quite a bit and
I've seen it, but you've mentioned that they do things
that don't really help anybody. They only do things Trump specifically,
but to a large extent, Maga. These things don't help anybody.

(10:22):
They only hurt people, right, And you've mentioned that Race
is the greatest hits, even on this episode. But you know,
Race is like that's them, that's their main instrument that
they play.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
And I just want to point this.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Out, Washington Commanders. You would think Donald Trump, with his ego,
having a football team named the Commanders while he's the
commander in chief in Washington, d C. Where the Commanders play,
you would think he would find something like that flattering, right.

(11:02):
But I think your point is well made when he says,
let's go back to the Washington Redskins, which you know
from us and I'll let you tell the stories, but
from from our travels, from what we understand is that.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
A lot of.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Mascots around the country named after indigenous tribes, indigenous language
that is, like like swear words, things like that, because
they've changed things around where we live, change the names
of mountain ranges and all kinds of stuff. Right, all

(11:42):
of that is the result of people really trying to
push for a fair representation of Native peoples rather than
a caricature of Native peoples. Right, And so he's choosing
to go back to the racism that was ended five

(12:03):
years ago instead of living in the moment where it's like,
you know, the team's named after the commanders and I'm
the commander in chief.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
We up, it's the craziest thing, all right, it's all UQ.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
Well, I think what we both know is he's never
taken the job of commander in chief serious. He's told
us how he feels about the military and people that
serve He panders to them when he needs their support,
and when he wants to see anti left. You know,
he panders to law enforcement when he wants to see
him anti left. But pardoned hundreds, if not thousands of

(12:38):
people who storm the capitol and the assaulted officers on
January sixth. So all of it is cosplay. All of
it is pandering, all of it is hypocritical nonsense. But
when you have a base that won't call you out
on it, and you can continue to run that play
over and over again and have it worked, and that's
what you do. So in twenty thirteen, Donald Trump and

(12:59):
I quote, the President should not be telling the Washington
Redskins to change their name. Our country has far bigger problems.
Focus on them, not nonsense. Wow, So when someone else
was the president, the president calling for a name change
was nonsense and the country had far bigger problems to

(13:23):
focus on, and we should have focused on them. Fast forward,
because you know, a few moments later with this guy,
it's all it takes is that long for him to
contradict himself the Washington Whatever's and like you said, his
ego is big, but we never accuse him of being
a very intelligent guy. The Washington whatever should immediately change

(13:48):
their name back to the Washington Redskins football team when
the Washington commanders where the commander in chief lives, resides,
and works. Unless you live in Florida and spend your
days on the golf course, that would have been something
that would have spoken to your ego. But again, he
don't even consider himself the commander in chief, except for

(14:10):
when he needs to hold a multimillion dollar military parade
on his birthday that no one attends. But again, here
we are, there's a big clamoring for this. Likewise, the
Cleveland Indians, let me go find every team that had
a racist name and throw them in a tweet together,

(14:31):
because if I can get back on this racism horse,
my base will stop paying attention to my past. My
base will stop splintering about the idea that I might
be a PDF file because I've already been held accountable
and adjudicated and sexual assault and by that judge, guilty

(14:57):
of having rapded someone. So I need to get as
much attention off the idea that I might also be
a PDF file. I need to get attention off that immediately.
And the fastest and most efficient way I know how
to do that is to throw some coals into the
racism fire of my base, because I know they'll respond

(15:20):
to that, our great Indian people, not Aboriginal or Native,
not indigenous, but Indian, because of course that's what he's
going to go with.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
And massive numbers bigly.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
Is a word that he uses because you know he's
prone to superlatives. Want this to happen. Their heritage and
prestige is system is systemically being taken away from them.
So if we stop calling this team the Redskins, it

(15:56):
takes away from the heritage and prestige of natives in
this country. Times are different now than they were three
or four years ago. We are our country of passion
and common sense. Notice he didn't say come passion, just passion,
a lot of emotion and common sense owners get it done.

(16:18):
And goes on to talk about either withholding funding if
they don't change the name, or giving it if they do.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Well. You know, the craziest part of this whole thing
is again, to what end? This guy is clearly not
interested in the history of these people's. In fact, he's

(16:48):
spent like the first, you know, a few months of
his presidency trying to erase the history of proud peoples
right and to do something five years after the fact,
after they've already rebranded, after they've already you know, gotten
the name out there, they've built some brand equity with
the new aim. It just it doesn't make fiscal sense.

(17:10):
And I know that this this billionaire class has to
be just as frustrated with this guy. He's just doing
it for his base. But he you know, he's weaponizing
the government, the same thing that he accused he accused
Joe Biden of doing. He's weaponizing the government. I'm not
going to give you then this money unless you change

(17:30):
the name of your team back. The team doesn't belong
to the people, you know, it doesn't. It belongs to
a private citizen for all intents and purposes.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
And it's like.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
It's it's hard to put into words how frustrating it
is to live in this America that some people that
I know voted for and that's going to do it
for us here on the QR code once again, I've
been your host. Rams's ja A big shout out to
q Ward, who you can find on all social media

(18:10):
at I am q Ward and I want to take
a moment just to say thank you for listening.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
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Speaker 1 (18:21):
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