October 6, 2025 • 18 mins
On part 2 of today's podcast, Hosts Ramses Ja and Q Ward discuss Trump's claims about Black unemployment
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Still broadcasting from the Civic Cipher Studios. This is the
QR code where we share perspectives, seek understanding, and shape outcomes.
The man you are about to hear from is a
man that has been so gracious in sharing his entire
family with me, just a wonderful human being. He is
the Q in the QR code goes by the name
of the q Ward.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
The worsh you just heard is the captain of this ship,
the North Stary, if you will, the hope, the positivity,
the idea that we might actually come out on the
other side of whatever this is we're going through right now.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
He is the R and QR Cody goes by the
name ramses Jah. And we need you to stick around
because later in this show we're going to be talking
about how Donald Trump somehow is touting low black unemployment
numbers despite the data and the facts and the reality
of the situation. So we're going to talk about that,
(00:53):
and right now we're going to hear from our very
own q Ward as he talks to us about the
solid the right versus the division of everyone else.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
You know, I think people are kind of tribal by nature,
and you see people voting or rooting for their favorite
teams on NFL Sunday, or you know, people like to
belong to something. So there's always been kind of an
US versus them, or they versus we mentality the state
of our country. They are united in hate, while we
(01:31):
are all divided in the pain that we share. And
I wanted to talk about the greatest trick that power
ever pulled in this country, convincing oppressed people to fight
each other. While the oppressors stay united. The right have
mastered it. They'll unite billionaires and bigots, pastors and politicians,
(01:55):
cops and conspiracy theorists, all under one flag. They don't
have to agree on much of anything, morality, truth, nor decency.
They just have to agree on power. Meanwhile, we marginalize folks,
the faithful, the workers, the dreamers. Turned that same energy
(02:18):
inward for years. Some Black Americans, Democrats and MAGA supporters alike,
have found a way to other people who were not
of direct African descent. We look at immigrants from Latin America,
Africa or the Caribbeans say that's not our fight. But
the oppression never stops where it starts. It rehearses and
(02:43):
now ICE conducts military style raids and black communities. We're
seeing the machine turn its sights on citizens who once
upon a time, I'm willing to bet, thought that they
were safe. And you know what's wild, rams, The same
people that tell us to stand for Christian values will
overlook every sin imaginable just to maintain political unity and solidarity.
(03:09):
Pastors who preach the gospel of Jesus Christ, who say
love your neighbor and care for the poor, welcome the stranger,
will excuse cruelty, racism, adultery, corruption and lies because it
keeps their side in power. They can't find a single
verse to justify cages, greed, or hate, but they'll find
(03:32):
a way to sanctify it on Sunday morning. That is
not faith, people, it's faction. It's unity built on hypocrisy.
And yet those same preachers can overlook everything in their
ranks while we black, brown, immigrant, Muslim, LGBTQ, working class
(03:54):
or middle class or poor blame each other for conditions
that we did not create. The right perfected this strategy.
They don't fracture over differences, they weaponize it. They'll stand
shoulder to shoulder with anyone who keeps their hierarchy intact,
us will splinter over the smallest thing. Black versus brown,
(04:19):
straight versus gay, Christian versus Muslim, citizen versus immigrant. We'll
tear each other apart while watching them consolidate control. And
when that system comes for us, because as we know
it always does, we realize too late that it was
never about who deserved the raid, the eviction, the pink slip,
(04:42):
or the bullet. It was always about keeping us divided
enough to not fight back together. Solidarity is not about sameness,
it's about shared survival. It means recognizing that Honduran mothers
detained that the border and black fathers stopped in their
(05:02):
own neighborhoods are living under the same system, just dressed
in different clothes. Solidarity doesn't mean agreeing on everything. It
means agreeing that we are not each other's enemy, because
they already have one, and it's anyone who threatens their control.
This is where we meet the clap back. The right
(05:24):
unites through hate. We divide through pain. They'll excuse every
sin for power while we cancel each other because we're
not perfect. And until we stop letting them pick the
teams and assign them to us again. Black versus brown
gave versus straight Christian versus Muslim, citizen versus immigrant. They'll
(05:48):
keep winning the same way. Unified together. The only thing
stronger than their hate is our potential for solidarity. But
we can not conquer a system built to divide us
until we stop dividing ourselves. The truth is this, none
(06:08):
of us are free until all of us are.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
You know, I saw a video. We have a video
in our in our group chat, and this took place
in Chicago, and we shared it on our social media
at SIVI excite for anybody wants to check it out.
And there's a couple of ICE agents and they're doing
their best to arrest a man who's yelling out in Spanish,
are you le me? Are you me? Which means help me,
(06:39):
help me? And this is in the middle of the street.
Ice vehicle parked. This man is wailing. They have him
on the ground. They're thrown him to the ground, throwing
him to the ground. He's doing his best to resist
and people start stopping their cars, honking the horns loud,
hey leave them alone, leave him alone then and they
(07:00):
all get out of their cars and then they start
walking up to these ICE agents and an ice agent
drops the zip ties and a person like kicks the
zip ties away from the Ice agent and they create
this mob. And no one puts their hands on the
Ice agent, of course, but that pressure, that solidarity, that unity,
that display of humanity caused those agents to get up,
(07:23):
get back in their car, leave the man alone, and
the crowd started helping him. And the crowd was speaking English,
make no mistake. It got back in their car and
then they drove away as fast as they could. It
was energizing. Anybody that hasn't seen it is energizing. It
is possible to resist, and we don't have to resist
(07:45):
the way that they do. We've learned this lesson many
times before. Nonviolent resistance has a place, right So if
you're not a violent person, don't worry about it, but resist, resist, resists,
all right. Donald Trump says that, uh, black unemployment is
(08:09):
super low. All right, let's get into it, all right.
This from the Black Information Network. President Donald Trump is
touting what he calls a record black employment under his presidency,
despite the fact that black unemployment has risen during his
second term. Shout out to the BIM. That's funny. On Thursday,
October second, Trump posted a meme on his true social
(08:31):
platform comparing himself to former Presidents Bill Clinton and Barack Obama.
The meme labeled Clinton with record black imprisonment, Obama with
record Black welfare, and Trump with record Black employment. Trump's
post contradicts data showing that the all time low for
(08:51):
black unemployment came under for former President Joe Biden's administration
in twenty twenty three, when the rate dropped to four
point eight percent. Since Trump's return to office in twenty
twenty five, the black unemployment rate has risen steadily, from
six percent at the start of the year to over
seven and a half percent as of this fall. Economists say.
(09:15):
Economists and policy advocates to have raised concerns that the
increase may reflect deeper instability in the job market. The
ongoing federal shutdown is also expected to have black employment
the hardest. The Black Americans make up thirteen percent of
the US population, they account for eighteen point five percent
of the federal employees in the country at the end
of twenty twenty four. And August report from the Center
(09:36):
for American Progress warned that Trump's mega agenda, including attacks
on DEI programs and public sector jobs poses a significant
threat to the black middle class. Okay, first thing I
want to say is true social platform is propaganda will stop.
(10:02):
Not that anybody thought otherwise. No, not that anybody that
would any reasonable person I guess otherwise. It's not just propaganda.
It's a grift. You know, Donald Trump and Elon Musker friends,
and once Elon Musk bought Twitter to reinstate Donald Trump's
(10:23):
account on there because he's Elon Musk touted himself a
free speech absolutist. By then, Donald Trump already had the
workings to create his own social media platform that he
owned and can sell stock in it and all that
sort of stuff. So it's a grift and it's propaganda.
So I just want to make sure I say that.
(10:45):
Let's go back to this claim that former presidents Bill
Clinton and Barack Obama. Bill Clinton had the label in
this meme that Trump posted. The label said record black imprisonment.
So Bill Clinton, for folks that might not remember, was
(11:06):
the three strikes president. He was the Democrat that thought
that you know, tough on crime policy was you know,
the way to go. I mean, I guess his version
of that. It resulted in record black imprisonment. You know
(11:29):
and or I don't know if it was record black imprisonment,
but I do know just from knowing this that it
was a high rate of black imprisonment, and he subsequently
apologized for that. I remember his formal apology came sometime
around when Hillary Clinton was going to run or was
running for the presidency, where he had plenty of time
(11:54):
to reflect on the data and say, you know what,
that was a bad move. Or maybe it was Obama
even I'm not sure, but I know it was around
it was him advocating for someone to be the president.
So it was either Obama or Hillary Clinton. It was
the only two that come to mind. And he had
to walk back down the street saying, yes, these policies
(12:18):
were unfair to black people, and it resulted in it
didn't help the black people, it put them in prison.
You live, you learn. No one's perfect. That's not an excuse.
It's just kind of the reality of the situation. Okay.
But the one I want to focus on more than
Bill Clinton is Obama because he says that Obama's administration
(12:43):
saw record black welfare and again this is a mischaracterization
of the facts. So what happened is George Bush presided
over the Great Recession. It hit everybody hard, and two
(13:06):
thousand and eight and that was that. But you know,
everything leading up to that, that was George Bushy for
folks that have short memories, or people that weren't fully
clicked on in two thousand and eight, weren't in your
adult path, you know. Maybe for some of our younger
(13:28):
listeners and viewers, that time was unexpected. A lot of
people did not expect that to happen. I certainly didn't.
I had invested in commercial real estate. I had a home.
I had a job, a really really good job. I
(13:49):
was working at Power ninety two, you know, I was
doing my thing, and then all of a sudden, everybody
starts talking about the economy for a couple of months,
and then all of a sudden, everything goes downhill. Everyone
loses their jobs, everyone loses their houses. So for I
lost my house, I lost my commercial investment, you know,
(14:14):
and I had to start over again. There were a
lot of people under the Obama administration who had just
started to rebuild their lives, and so there was a
lot of people on welfare. And as we know, if
there's some economic conditions in this country, the people that
tend to be hit the hardest are black people. So again,
(14:35):
when Donald Trump says record black welfare under Obama, that's
a mischaracterization of the events that was George Bush's recession.
Obama pulled us out of it, right, So you know,
by the time twenty sixteen rolled around, everything was back booming. Okay,
(14:58):
Republicans didn't like the way the money was moving when
everything was back booming, so they attacked the flow of
the money. You should be able to keep more of
your money. It shouldn't be going to the quote unquote
welfare quin that sort of thing. But these were democratic
policies by a democratic president that got us out of
that time. But when he took office, Yeah, there's a
lot of people that were struggling. They needed support, and
(15:20):
if they had paid into the welfare system and been taxed,
you know, and so forth, then it is their right
to draw upon that in their time of need, because
these are citizens in the United States of America. So
for Donald Trump to mischaracterize that as record black welfare,
it's it's intentionally misrepresenting what happened. And then, as we know,
(15:45):
Donald Trump himself the person who said that immigrants were
taking your black jobs. Donald Trump himself the person that says,
you know that you know black men, black men, they
love me black men. He is presiding over the highest
level of black unemployment since the pandemic, which was another
traumatic event that this country lived through where black people
(16:08):
were hit the hardest. So right now, right you're hear
my voice, right now, right now, there are less black
people with jobs than there was in the pandemic, and
he just flat lies about it. And of course his
maneuver with the Bureau of Labor Statistics pulling the lady
I forget her name, it is Erica mcintarfer, firing her
(16:32):
from the BLS because he got a bad report on
his job growth, you know data, and installing one of
his cronies in there is it doesn't inspire any more confidence.
So not only is he on his own propaganda machine
that is a grift, he's using it to pedal that
(16:52):
propaganda with no data, with no way to cite it,
and he's just giving it to his base so that
they can feel like Trump's helping black people, and he
absolutely is not. He lied to black people and then
hurt them the worst, and he attacked diversity, equity and
inclusion initiatives, which was indeed the initiatives around the country
(17:15):
that sought to bring black people not just in the
bottom of the companies, but to advance them based on merit,
to consider them as well, based on merit, can they
do these jobs too? And that conceivably would have created
more and more opportunities for black people, more and more
(17:35):
wealth for black people. And Donald Trump smashed the whole house.
And then now he's trying to tell us that we
don't see what we're seeing. I'm so sorry, Q I
know I talked this one all the way up, but
hopefully I hit everything that needed to be hit.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I almost thought you were going to say that black
employment is the lowest since the last time he was president,
because that would have been the truth as well. And
of course he knows he can say things without status
data to back it up, because his base will accept
everything he says at phase value.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
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Still broadcasting from the Civic Cipher Studios. This is the
QR code where we share perspectives, seek understanding, and shape outcomes.
The man you are about to hear from is a
man that has been so gracious in sharing his entire
family with me, just a wonderful human being. He is
the Q in the QR code goes by the name
of the q Ward.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
The worsh you just heard is the captain of this ship,
the North Stary, if you will, the hope, the positivity,
the idea that we might actually come out on the
other side of whatever this is we're going through right now.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
He is the R and QR Cody goes by the
name ramses Jah. And we need you to stick around
because later in this show we're going to be talking
about how Donald Trump somehow is touting low black unemployment
numbers despite the data and the facts and the reality
of the situation. So we're going to talk about that,
(00:53):
and right now we're going to hear from our very
own q Ward as he talks to us about the
solid the right versus the division of everyone else.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
You know, I think people are kind of tribal by nature,
and you see people voting or rooting for their favorite
teams on NFL Sunday, or you know, people like to
belong to something. So there's always been kind of an
US versus them, or they versus we mentality the state
of our country. They are united in hate, while we
(01:31):
are all divided in the pain that we share. And
I wanted to talk about the greatest trick that power
ever pulled in this country, convincing oppressed people to fight
each other. While the oppressors stay united. The right have
mastered it. They'll unite billionaires and bigots, pastors and politicians,
(01:55):
cops and conspiracy theorists, all under one flag. They don't
have to agree on much of anything, morality, truth, nor decency.
They just have to agree on power. Meanwhile, we marginalize folks,
the faithful, the workers, the dreamers. Turned that same energy
(02:18):
inward for years. Some Black Americans, Democrats and MAGA supporters alike,
have found a way to other people who were not
of direct African descent. We look at immigrants from Latin America,
Africa or the Caribbeans say that's not our fight. But
the oppression never stops where it starts. It rehearses and
(02:43):
now ICE conducts military style raids and black communities. We're
seeing the machine turn its sights on citizens who once
upon a time, I'm willing to bet, thought that they
were safe. And you know what's wild, rams, The same
people that tell us to stand for Christian values will
overlook every sin imaginable just to maintain political unity and solidarity.
(03:09):
Pastors who preach the gospel of Jesus Christ, who say
love your neighbor and care for the poor, welcome the stranger,
will excuse cruelty, racism, adultery, corruption and lies because it
keeps their side in power. They can't find a single
verse to justify cages, greed, or hate, but they'll find
(03:32):
a way to sanctify it on Sunday morning. That is
not faith, people, it's faction. It's unity built on hypocrisy.
And yet those same preachers can overlook everything in their
ranks while we black, brown, immigrant, Muslim, LGBTQ, working class
(03:54):
or middle class or poor blame each other for conditions
that we did not create. The right perfected this strategy.
They don't fracture over differences, they weaponize it. They'll stand
shoulder to shoulder with anyone who keeps their hierarchy intact,
us will splinter over the smallest thing. Black versus brown,
(04:19):
straight versus gay, Christian versus Muslim, citizen versus immigrant. We'll
tear each other apart while watching them consolidate control. And
when that system comes for us, because as we know
it always does, we realize too late that it was
never about who deserved the raid, the eviction, the pink slip,
(04:42):
or the bullet. It was always about keeping us divided
enough to not fight back together. Solidarity is not about sameness,
it's about shared survival. It means recognizing that Honduran mothers
detained that the border and black fathers stopped in their
(05:02):
own neighborhoods are living under the same system, just dressed
in different clothes. Solidarity doesn't mean agreeing on everything. It
means agreeing that we are not each other's enemy, because
they already have one, and it's anyone who threatens their control.
This is where we meet the clap back. The right
(05:24):
unites through hate. We divide through pain. They'll excuse every
sin for power while we cancel each other because we're
not perfect. And until we stop letting them pick the
teams and assign them to us again. Black versus brown
gave versus straight Christian versus Muslim, citizen versus immigrant. They'll
(05:48):
keep winning the same way. Unified together. The only thing
stronger than their hate is our potential for solidarity. But
we can not conquer a system built to divide us
until we stop dividing ourselves. The truth is this, none
(06:08):
of us are free until all of us are.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
You know, I saw a video. We have a video
in our in our group chat, and this took place
in Chicago, and we shared it on our social media
at SIVI excite for anybody wants to check it out.
And there's a couple of ICE agents and they're doing
their best to arrest a man who's yelling out in Spanish,
are you le me? Are you me? Which means help me,
(06:39):
help me? And this is in the middle of the street.
Ice vehicle parked. This man is wailing. They have him
on the ground. They're thrown him to the ground, throwing
him to the ground. He's doing his best to resist
and people start stopping their cars, honking the horns loud,
hey leave them alone, leave him alone then and they
(07:00):
all get out of their cars and then they start
walking up to these ICE agents and an ice agent
drops the zip ties and a person like kicks the
zip ties away from the Ice agent and they create
this mob. And no one puts their hands on the
Ice agent, of course, but that pressure, that solidarity, that unity,
that display of humanity caused those agents to get up,
(07:23):
get back in their car, leave the man alone, and
the crowd started helping him. And the crowd was speaking English,
make no mistake. It got back in their car and
then they drove away as fast as they could. It
was energizing. Anybody that hasn't seen it is energizing. It
is possible to resist, and we don't have to resist
(07:45):
the way that they do. We've learned this lesson many
times before. Nonviolent resistance has a place, right So if
you're not a violent person, don't worry about it, but resist, resist, resists,
all right. Donald Trump says that, uh, black unemployment is
(08:09):
super low. All right, let's get into it, all right.
This from the Black Information Network. President Donald Trump is
touting what he calls a record black employment under his presidency,
despite the fact that black unemployment has risen during his
second term. Shout out to the BIM. That's funny. On Thursday,
October second, Trump posted a meme on his true social
(08:31):
platform comparing himself to former Presidents Bill Clinton and Barack Obama.
The meme labeled Clinton with record black imprisonment, Obama with
record Black welfare, and Trump with record Black employment. Trump's
post contradicts data showing that the all time low for
(08:51):
black unemployment came under for former President Joe Biden's administration
in twenty twenty three, when the rate dropped to four
point eight percent. Since Trump's return to office in twenty
twenty five, the black unemployment rate has risen steadily, from
six percent at the start of the year to over
seven and a half percent as of this fall. Economists say.
(09:15):
Economists and policy advocates to have raised concerns that the
increase may reflect deeper instability in the job market. The
ongoing federal shutdown is also expected to have black employment
the hardest. The Black Americans make up thirteen percent of
the US population, they account for eighteen point five percent
of the federal employees in the country at the end
of twenty twenty four. And August report from the Center
(09:36):
for American Progress warned that Trump's mega agenda, including attacks
on DEI programs and public sector jobs poses a significant
threat to the black middle class. Okay, first thing I
want to say is true social platform is propaganda will stop.
(10:02):
Not that anybody thought otherwise. No, not that anybody that
would any reasonable person I guess otherwise. It's not just propaganda.
It's a grift. You know, Donald Trump and Elon Musker friends,
and once Elon Musk bought Twitter to reinstate Donald Trump's
(10:23):
account on there because he's Elon Musk touted himself a
free speech absolutist. By then, Donald Trump already had the
workings to create his own social media platform that he
owned and can sell stock in it and all that
sort of stuff. So it's a grift and it's propaganda.
So I just want to make sure I say that.
(10:45):
Let's go back to this claim that former presidents Bill
Clinton and Barack Obama. Bill Clinton had the label in
this meme that Trump posted. The label said record black imprisonment.
So Bill Clinton, for folks that might not remember, was
(11:06):
the three strikes president. He was the Democrat that thought
that you know, tough on crime policy was you know,
the way to go. I mean, I guess his version
of that. It resulted in record black imprisonment. You know
(11:29):
and or I don't know if it was record black imprisonment,
but I do know just from knowing this that it
was a high rate of black imprisonment, and he subsequently
apologized for that. I remember his formal apology came sometime
around when Hillary Clinton was going to run or was
running for the presidency, where he had plenty of time
(11:54):
to reflect on the data and say, you know what,
that was a bad move. Or maybe it was Obama
even I'm not sure, but I know it was around
it was him advocating for someone to be the president.
So it was either Obama or Hillary Clinton. It was
the only two that come to mind. And he had
to walk back down the street saying, yes, these policies
(12:18):
were unfair to black people, and it resulted in it
didn't help the black people, it put them in prison.
You live, you learn. No one's perfect. That's not an excuse.
It's just kind of the reality of the situation. Okay.
But the one I want to focus on more than
Bill Clinton is Obama because he says that Obama's administration
(12:43):
saw record black welfare and again this is a mischaracterization
of the facts. So what happened is George Bush presided
over the Great Recession. It hit everybody hard, and two
(13:06):
thousand and eight and that was that. But you know,
everything leading up to that, that was George Bushy for
folks that have short memories, or people that weren't fully
clicked on in two thousand and eight, weren't in your
adult path, you know. Maybe for some of our younger
(13:28):
listeners and viewers, that time was unexpected. A lot of
people did not expect that to happen. I certainly didn't.
I had invested in commercial real estate. I had a home.
I had a job, a really really good job. I
(13:49):
was working at Power ninety two, you know, I was
doing my thing, and then all of a sudden, everybody
starts talking about the economy for a couple of months,
and then all of a sudden, everything goes downhill. Everyone
loses their jobs, everyone loses their houses. So for I
lost my house, I lost my commercial investment, you know,
(14:14):
and I had to start over again. There were a
lot of people under the Obama administration who had just
started to rebuild their lives, and so there was a
lot of people on welfare. And as we know, if
there's some economic conditions in this country, the people that
tend to be hit the hardest are black people. So again,
(14:35):
when Donald Trump says record black welfare under Obama, that's
a mischaracterization of the events that was George Bush's recession.
Obama pulled us out of it, right, So you know,
by the time twenty sixteen rolled around, everything was back booming. Okay,
(14:58):
Republicans didn't like the way the money was moving when
everything was back booming, so they attacked the flow of
the money. You should be able to keep more of
your money. It shouldn't be going to the quote unquote
welfare quin that sort of thing. But these were democratic
policies by a democratic president that got us out of
that time. But when he took office, Yeah, there's a
lot of people that were struggling. They needed support, and
(15:20):
if they had paid into the welfare system and been taxed,
you know, and so forth, then it is their right
to draw upon that in their time of need, because
these are citizens in the United States of America. So
for Donald Trump to mischaracterize that as record black welfare,
it's it's intentionally misrepresenting what happened. And then, as we know,
(15:45):
Donald Trump himself the person who said that immigrants were
taking your black jobs. Donald Trump himself the person that says,
you know that you know black men, black men, they
love me black men. He is presiding over the highest
level of black unemployment since the pandemic, which was another
traumatic event that this country lived through where black people
(16:08):
were hit the hardest. So right now, right you're hear
my voice, right now, right now, there are less black
people with jobs than there was in the pandemic, and
he just flat lies about it. And of course his
maneuver with the Bureau of Labor Statistics pulling the lady
I forget her name, it is Erica mcintarfer, firing her
(16:32):
from the BLS because he got a bad report on
his job growth, you know data, and installing one of
his cronies in there is it doesn't inspire any more confidence.
So not only is he on his own propaganda machine
that is a grift, he's using it to pedal that
(16:52):
propaganda with no data, with no way to cite it,
and he's just giving it to his base so that
they can feel like Trump's helping black people, and he
absolutely is not. He lied to black people and then
hurt them the worst, and he attacked diversity, equity and
inclusion initiatives, which was indeed the initiatives around the country
(17:15):
that sought to bring black people not just in the
bottom of the companies, but to advance them based on merit,
to consider them as well, based on merit, can they
do these jobs too? And that conceivably would have created
more and more opportunities for black people, more and more
(17:35):
wealth for black people. And Donald Trump smashed the whole house.
And then now he's trying to tell us that we
don't see what we're seeing. I'm so sorry, Q I
know I talked this one all the way up, but
hopefully I hit everything that needed to be hit.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I almost thought you were going to say that black
employment is the lowest since the last time he was president,
because that would have been the truth as well. And
of course he knows he can say things without status
data to back it up, because his base will accept
everything he says at phase value.
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