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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Still broadcasting from the Civic Cipher Studios. This is the
QR code where we share perspective, seek understanding, and shape outcomes.
The man you are about to hear from is one
of the best songwriters you've never heard of. He is
the Q in the QR code.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
He goes by the name of q Board.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
You know, there's a formula of what we do here.
But sometimes I have to tell Ramses that you have
to stop lying to these people. Yes, I am a songwriter,
but no I am not one of the best. Like,
come on, man, I think us Let me get back
(00:39):
on task. The voice that you just heard, who'll be
lying to y'all is the R in the QR code,
and he goes by the name Ramses.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Joh And we need to stick around a little later
we're gonna be talking about an incident, viral incident where
cops arrested a twelve year old boy, black boy for
recklessly driving his bicycle. But right now we are going
to start off the second part of the show with
qwards Clapback, where he discusses how the government has declared
war on US cities.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Que when power turns its weapons inward, the people must
turn to one another. A lot of us never imagine
what we do in the event that our country declared
war on its citizens. Well, you know, I have to
(01:31):
pause because that's not true. Ramses. My brother is very
famously and aggressively against guns, and those who stand opposed
to his positions on guns would argue, as Second Amendment
right absolutist that in the event that a tyrannical government
ever took up against its citizens, it is our right
(01:51):
to own guns so that we can stand up against
that tyranny and fight back against that government. While those
people are quiet and absent as our country does exactly
what they said they were holding on to those guns for.
If you've been watching the headlines, you already know the
(02:14):
rhetoric has indeed crossed the line. They've literally declared war
on American cities. Not a foreign enemy, not a rival army,
us the enemy from within. They call us immigrant neighborhoods,
(02:34):
working class blocks, almost exclusively, however, black and brown communities.
They send raids, militarized police, and political theater. Because we've
seen the videos they've released after these raids, and they've
dressed this political theater up as law and order. So
(02:58):
the question is when power declares war on its people,
what do its people do in return? They want you
to think this is about safety, when it's really about control.
They create the chaos, and then they promise to restore
the order. They call cities lawless, then make them so
(03:23):
through force. They demonize mayors, governors, activist journalist, anyone who
resists their centralized model of power. It's the same script
used in every authoritarian pivot. Criminalize the poor, militarize the streets,
(03:46):
politicize fear. The antidote, however, simple but not easy, solidarity
and coordination. City halls, churches, mosque synagogues, labor halls. Start
talking across those lines. Form rapid response networks, pair civil
(04:12):
rights attorneys with community leaders, turn every neighborhood into a
communication grid. Power in these cases relies and counts on isolation. Solidarity, however,
scrambles those signals. Know your rights, record everything, have legal
(04:35):
aid numbers saved and share them with your neighbors. Use
encrypted messaging when you can, and trusted phone trees. Keep
watch for each other's children, for the elderly, and for
your neighbors. Protection is not paranoia, so do not allow
those who are less informed. And not paying attention to
(04:56):
gaslight you. It is okay and at this point necessary
to be prepared. If they bring the tactics of war
to our streets, we need to bring the discipline of
community to theirs. Authoritarian power feeds on apathy silence those
(05:17):
who don't feel like it's their fight. So vote in
every race, local, state, and federal. Vote for the mayor,
the sheriff, the DA and the judges. Pressure your city
councils to refuse to cooperate with these unjust directives. We
(05:37):
were once told don't vote until you get something. Now
see why that was such horrible strategy. Go to public hearings,
flood the record with truth. Democracy only works when people
flood the system with participation faster than fear can cause
(05:58):
us to stop. They fear solidarity. That's why they use
division as a weapon. Black versus brown, citizen versus immigrant,
straight versus gay, Christian versus Muslim. Meanwhile, as we've pointed out,
on their side, Baptist pastors can excuse any level of
(06:22):
cruelty and corruption just so they can stay aligned with power.
While the oppressed tear each other apart over crumbs. They
unite in their hypocrisy, We fracture and it is painful.
That's the imbalance that we have to reverse. Rams So
(06:43):
here's where we clap back. If and I say if
loosely because at this point it's clear that they've declared
war on our cities, then our cities do not have
to declare war.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
In return.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
We must declare solidarity with each other, organize, protect, participate,
because tanks and talking points can't defeat neighborliness. Fear can't
govern a people who refuse to be divided. They may
(07:21):
have declared war on us, but we need to declare
unity on them.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
You already know. I love that. I love that.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
That's like, I'm all about that, and we've been on
that me and you been on that way for such
a long time.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
So I appreciate that perspective.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I think that that really does translate and it gives
people something that they can do.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Action steps.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Okay, don't be divided, don't see your neighbor as your enemy,
and create those inroads and let's stand together. Well done,
q At, that's probably the most inspiring one I've heard
so far, So thank you for that. All right, Well
back to reality. So before I get into this, one.
(08:14):
This is the one we've been teasing all the show
where the police arrested a little boy for riding his
bike recklessly.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I saw the video of this.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Arrest. Q has not seen it. Famously, we take turns
with videos, particularly ones that are have the capacity to
drag our spirits down, and this is how we protect
our mental health and preserve our happiness. We do believe
that we are entitled to happiness too. This is the
(08:49):
chapter in our life where we fight back and we
try to make the world a better place. But we
do believe that as conscious beings, we're entitled to happiness,
and so we try to preserve that for each other.
If we both don't have to go through the muck
and mire, then one of us will take it on
the chin. And this time it was my turn this video.
(09:11):
It was a twelve year old boy. I'm a father
to an eleven year old and a twenty year old,
but my little boy is eleven, so right around the
same age. And I know my son. If you're a
parent and you are close reasonably close with your child,
(09:33):
you know your child right, So I'm no different. I
know my son. I was there when he was born.
I've known him his whole life. I gave him his name.
He's literally my son. I can see my son in
this video. I can see any black child in this video.
(09:53):
And for me, it's like, well, why is this baby
in a car the other day? Someone changing his diapers?
Why do you have him handcuffed in the back of
a police car? Have you know humanity? What is the
threat here? Why is this necessary? And you know, there
are instances where black people, black women in particular, try
(10:16):
to suggest to larger populations and non black populations that
the powers that be in this country don't often see
their children as children. The children are forced to grow
up and be men and women in during a chapter
(10:37):
in their lives when they're supposed to be able to
be children. Their brains aren't fully formed. They should be
able to make mistakes, they should be you know, and
given all the grace that white children are given. Now,
this story speaks to the fact that, of course, there's
racism deep in this country, deep roots. There's racism policing, obviously,
(11:02):
but there's problems in policing that even go beyond brace.
The whole entire system is rotted, and these people will
try to cover their own tracks and take care of
themselves and not take any accountability whatsoever. And it's the
most infuriating thing in the world. And it's laid bare
(11:24):
when you see these officers arrest a child. Now, you
and I have seen plenty of videos of police arresting children,
literally children. One thing that's always true, at least in
the videos that we see, the children are always black.
So that's the backdrop. Allow me to share the story
(11:46):
is from the bi in. The Charlotte Mecklenburg Police Department
is under fire actor a video showed officers arresting a
twelve year old black boy for allegedly riding his bike recklessly.
Video of the incident last month shows officers handcuffing the
b in the back of a police cruiser and now
viral video. One officer tells bystanders that the boy was
being detained for recklessly driving into traffic. Bystanders questioned the
(12:10):
officer's decision to arrest the boy, especially since he didn't
like since he didn't hit a vehicle during the incident.
Officers maintained that the twelve year old recklessly driving his
bike was illegal and it doesn't matter if they're a kid.
The boy's mother, Jasmine Irvin, said her son was with
friends during a group rideout downtown when police began following them.
(12:34):
Ervin said her son fled out of fear, but officers
caught up with him about a mile from home.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
They absolutely did go too far. He's twelve, He's eighty
nine pounds. Irvin told WBTV. She goes on to say,
all his innocence is just gone. CMPD could have called me,
They could have brought him home. They didn't have to
put him in handcuffs like that.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Unquote.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Police said the child was charged with reckless driving and
released to his mother the same day. In a statement,
CMPD confirmed the arrest and said the department's Central Division
quote regularly responds to reports of individuals riding bicycles in
a manner that poses a danger to themselves or others.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Unquote.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
The incident remains under investigation. Okay, I think the thing
that I want people to try to do is reimagine
the story with a white child. That's the easiest way
to get there. Imagine the outrage, Imagine the befuddlement that
(13:44):
a community might experience finding out that the police arrested
a kid, not a black kid, just a kid. He's twelve,
and he was riding his bike, even if he was
riding his bike in the most insane manner and hit
a car and cause damage. Right, you call the parents,
(14:04):
you make a report, but you don't arrest the child.
Like it just doesn't really feel normal now that you've
reimagined it, and the qualifier black quote unquote isn't there.
And for folks that have been able to kind of
perform that thought experiment, you're able to see what it
is that I mentioned earlier. Black women have been saying
all along, for black children, you're forced to grow up quicker.
(14:27):
You're not given the grace of childhood. You're not given
the allowance to be a child that plays and rides
your bike. And it's such an unfair reality to know
that this is true for me and not for thee
(14:51):
It's such an unfair reality to live in to know
that my child, my personal Ramses's child, my baby, has
to live this version of reality knowing that there's another
version of reality that has all the grace, all the
benefit of the doubt built into it. And we're stuck
(15:15):
in this version of reality. And then we're told that
we're imagining it. Q.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
You and I spent a lot of the early years
of our children listening to people tell us how beautiful
they are. I make it a point when I see
children at the airport, at the mall, at parks, restaurants,
to tell their parents that their children are perfect, that
(15:51):
baby is perfect, because I know the joy of a
parent watching yours self literally be recreated and growing. And
you and I used to have these conversations, especially with
our boys.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
It's a different world for our daughters.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
And I say ours because I know Ram just protects
and looks over Icho like she belongs to him. But
our boys, because we know a day comes when that,
oh my god, they're so beautiful, they're so cute, that
that just goes away. Yeah, that they go from beautiful
and cute to threatening and fits the description and comply
(16:37):
and shut up and do what I say, and lose
your dignity and lose your self respect, accept cruelty, accept unfairness,
allow them to strip you of your self determination so
that you can make it home to me a live son.
(17:02):
Those are the conversations we have to have with our eight, nine, ten, eleven,
and twelve year olds, because you can get arrested for
reckless driving while riding your bike when you look like us.
(17:22):
There's a reason you can't find an example of a
white eleven or twelve year old kid being arrested for this.
And trust me, if there were an example, the other
side would make sure we knew so they can say
that we were race baiting when stories like this broke.
(17:44):
Our children don't get to be America's sons. That's reserved
for only apparently one group, and that's going to do
it for us here at the QR Coach. Today's show,
as always, was produced by Chris Thompson. Yes, I thought
you'd like to share.
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Speaker 2 (18:50):
And until then, y'all peace, peace,
Still broadcasting from the Civic Cipher Studios. This is the
QR code where we share perspective, seek understanding, and shape outcomes.
The man you are about to hear from is one
of the best songwriters you've never heard of. He is
the Q in the QR code.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
He goes by the name of q Board.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
You know, there's a formula of what we do here.
But sometimes I have to tell Ramses that you have
to stop lying to these people. Yes, I am a songwriter,
but no I am not one of the best. Like,
come on, man, I think us Let me get back
(00:39):
on task. The voice that you just heard, who'll be
lying to y'all is the R in the QR code,
and he goes by the name Ramses.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Joh And we need to stick around a little later
we're gonna be talking about an incident, viral incident where
cops arrested a twelve year old boy, black boy for
recklessly driving his bicycle. But right now we are going
to start off the second part of the show with
qwards Clapback, where he discusses how the government has declared
war on US cities.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Que when power turns its weapons inward, the people must
turn to one another. A lot of us never imagine
what we do in the event that our country declared
war on its citizens. Well, you know, I have to
(01:31):
pause because that's not true. Ramses. My brother is very
famously and aggressively against guns, and those who stand opposed
to his positions on guns would argue, as Second Amendment
right absolutist that in the event that a tyrannical government
ever took up against its citizens, it is our right
(01:51):
to own guns so that we can stand up against
that tyranny and fight back against that government. While those
people are quiet and absent as our country does exactly
what they said they were holding on to those guns for.
If you've been watching the headlines, you already know the
(02:14):
rhetoric has indeed crossed the line. They've literally declared war
on American cities. Not a foreign enemy, not a rival army,
us the enemy from within. They call us immigrant neighborhoods,
(02:34):
working class blocks, almost exclusively, however, black and brown communities.
They send raids, militarized police, and political theater. Because we've
seen the videos they've released after these raids, and they've
dressed this political theater up as law and order. So
(02:58):
the question is when power declares war on its people,
what do its people do in return? They want you
to think this is about safety, when it's really about control.
They create the chaos, and then they promise to restore
the order. They call cities lawless, then make them so
(03:23):
through force. They demonize mayors, governors, activist journalist, anyone who
resists their centralized model of power. It's the same script
used in every authoritarian pivot. Criminalize the poor, militarize the streets,
(03:46):
politicize fear. The antidote, however, simple but not easy, solidarity
and coordination. City halls, churches, mosque synagogues, labor halls. Start
talking across those lines. Form rapid response networks, pair civil
(04:12):
rights attorneys with community leaders, turn every neighborhood into a
communication grid. Power in these cases relies and counts on isolation. Solidarity, however,
scrambles those signals. Know your rights, record everything, have legal
(04:35):
aid numbers saved and share them with your neighbors. Use
encrypted messaging when you can, and trusted phone trees. Keep
watch for each other's children, for the elderly, and for
your neighbors. Protection is not paranoia, so do not allow
those who are less informed. And not paying attention to
(04:56):
gaslight you. It is okay and at this point necessary
to be prepared. If they bring the tactics of war
to our streets, we need to bring the discipline of
community to theirs. Authoritarian power feeds on apathy silence those
(05:17):
who don't feel like it's their fight. So vote in
every race, local, state, and federal. Vote for the mayor,
the sheriff, the DA and the judges. Pressure your city
councils to refuse to cooperate with these unjust directives. We
(05:37):
were once told don't vote until you get something. Now
see why that was such horrible strategy. Go to public hearings,
flood the record with truth. Democracy only works when people
flood the system with participation faster than fear can cause
(05:58):
us to stop. They fear solidarity. That's why they use
division as a weapon. Black versus brown, citizen versus immigrant,
straight versus gay, Christian versus Muslim. Meanwhile, as we've pointed out,
on their side, Baptist pastors can excuse any level of
(06:22):
cruelty and corruption just so they can stay aligned with power.
While the oppressed tear each other apart over crumbs. They
unite in their hypocrisy, We fracture and it is painful.
That's the imbalance that we have to reverse. Rams So
(06:43):
here's where we clap back. If and I say if
loosely because at this point it's clear that they've declared
war on our cities, then our cities do not have
to declare war.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
In return.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
We must declare solidarity with each other, organize, protect, participate,
because tanks and talking points can't defeat neighborliness. Fear can't
govern a people who refuse to be divided. They may
(07:21):
have declared war on us, but we need to declare
unity on them.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
You already know. I love that. I love that.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
That's like, I'm all about that, and we've been on
that me and you been on that way for such
a long time.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
So I appreciate that perspective.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I think that that really does translate and it gives
people something that they can do.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Action steps.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Okay, don't be divided, don't see your neighbor as your enemy,
and create those inroads and let's stand together. Well done,
q At, that's probably the most inspiring one I've heard
so far, So thank you for that. All right, Well
back to reality. So before I get into this, one.
(08:14):
This is the one we've been teasing all the show
where the police arrested a little boy for riding his
bike recklessly.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I saw the video of this.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Arrest. Q has not seen it. Famously, we take turns
with videos, particularly ones that are have the capacity to
drag our spirits down, and this is how we protect
our mental health and preserve our happiness. We do believe
that we are entitled to happiness too. This is the
(08:49):
chapter in our life where we fight back and we
try to make the world a better place. But we
do believe that as conscious beings, we're entitled to happiness,
and so we try to preserve that for each other.
If we both don't have to go through the muck
and mire, then one of us will take it on
the chin. And this time it was my turn this video.
(09:11):
It was a twelve year old boy. I'm a father
to an eleven year old and a twenty year old,
but my little boy is eleven, so right around the
same age. And I know my son. If you're a
parent and you are close reasonably close with your child,
(09:33):
you know your child right, So I'm no different. I
know my son. I was there when he was born.
I've known him his whole life. I gave him his name.
He's literally my son. I can see my son in
this video. I can see any black child in this video.
(09:53):
And for me, it's like, well, why is this baby
in a car the other day? Someone changing his diapers?
Why do you have him handcuffed in the back of
a police car? Have you know humanity? What is the
threat here? Why is this necessary? And you know, there
are instances where black people, black women in particular, try
(10:16):
to suggest to larger populations and non black populations that
the powers that be in this country don't often see
their children as children. The children are forced to grow
up and be men and women in during a chapter
(10:37):
in their lives when they're supposed to be able to
be children. Their brains aren't fully formed. They should be
able to make mistakes, they should be you know, and
given all the grace that white children are given. Now,
this story speaks to the fact that, of course, there's
racism deep in this country, deep roots. There's racism policing, obviously,
(11:02):
but there's problems in policing that even go beyond brace.
The whole entire system is rotted, and these people will
try to cover their own tracks and take care of
themselves and not take any accountability whatsoever. And it's the
most infuriating thing in the world. And it's laid bare
(11:24):
when you see these officers arrest a child. Now, you
and I have seen plenty of videos of police arresting children,
literally children. One thing that's always true, at least in
the videos that we see, the children are always black.
So that's the backdrop. Allow me to share the story
(11:46):
is from the bi in. The Charlotte Mecklenburg Police Department
is under fire actor a video showed officers arresting a
twelve year old black boy for allegedly riding his bike recklessly.
Video of the incident last month shows officers handcuffing the
b in the back of a police cruiser and now
viral video. One officer tells bystanders that the boy was
being detained for recklessly driving into traffic. Bystanders questioned the
(12:10):
officer's decision to arrest the boy, especially since he didn't
like since he didn't hit a vehicle during the incident.
Officers maintained that the twelve year old recklessly driving his
bike was illegal and it doesn't matter if they're a kid.
The boy's mother, Jasmine Irvin, said her son was with
friends during a group rideout downtown when police began following them.
(12:34):
Ervin said her son fled out of fear, but officers
caught up with him about a mile from home.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
They absolutely did go too far. He's twelve, He's eighty
nine pounds. Irvin told WBTV. She goes on to say,
all his innocence is just gone. CMPD could have called me,
They could have brought him home. They didn't have to
put him in handcuffs like that.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Unquote.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Police said the child was charged with reckless driving and
released to his mother the same day. In a statement,
CMPD confirmed the arrest and said the department's Central Division
quote regularly responds to reports of individuals riding bicycles in
a manner that poses a danger to themselves or others.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Unquote.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
The incident remains under investigation. Okay, I think the thing
that I want people to try to do is reimagine
the story with a white child. That's the easiest way
to get there. Imagine the outrage, Imagine the befuddlement that
(13:44):
a community might experience finding out that the police arrested
a kid, not a black kid, just a kid. He's twelve,
and he was riding his bike, even if he was
riding his bike in the most insane manner and hit
a car and cause damage. Right, you call the parents,
(14:04):
you make a report, but you don't arrest the child.
Like it just doesn't really feel normal now that you've
reimagined it, and the qualifier black quote unquote isn't there.
And for folks that have been able to kind of
perform that thought experiment, you're able to see what it
is that I mentioned earlier. Black women have been saying
all along, for black children, you're forced to grow up quicker.
(14:27):
You're not given the grace of childhood. You're not given
the allowance to be a child that plays and rides
your bike. And it's such an unfair reality to know
that this is true for me and not for thee
(14:51):
It's such an unfair reality to live in to know
that my child, my personal Ramses's child, my baby, has
to live this version of reality knowing that there's another
version of reality that has all the grace, all the
benefit of the doubt built into it. And we're stuck
(15:15):
in this version of reality. And then we're told that
we're imagining it. Q.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
You and I spent a lot of the early years
of our children listening to people tell us how beautiful
they are. I make it a point when I see
children at the airport, at the mall, at parks, restaurants,
to tell their parents that their children are perfect, that
(15:51):
baby is perfect, because I know the joy of a
parent watching yours self literally be recreated and growing. And
you and I used to have these conversations, especially with
our boys.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
It's a different world for our daughters.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
And I say ours because I know Ram just protects
and looks over Icho like she belongs to him. But
our boys, because we know a day comes when that,
oh my god, they're so beautiful, they're so cute, that
that just goes away. Yeah, that they go from beautiful
and cute to threatening and fits the description and comply
(16:37):
and shut up and do what I say, and lose
your dignity and lose your self respect, accept cruelty, accept unfairness,
allow them to strip you of your self determination so
that you can make it home to me a live son.
(17:02):
Those are the conversations we have to have with our eight, nine, ten, eleven,
and twelve year olds, because you can get arrested for
reckless driving while riding your bike when you look like us.
(17:22):
There's a reason you can't find an example of a
white eleven or twelve year old kid being arrested for this.
And trust me, if there were an example, the other
side would make sure we knew so they can say
that we were race baiting when stories like this broke.
(17:44):
Our children don't get to be America's sons. That's reserved
for only apparently one group, and that's going to do
it for us here at the QR Coach. Today's show,
as always, was produced by Chris Thompson. Yes, I thought
you'd like to share.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Please use the red microphone talk back feature on the
iHeartRadio app, and while you're there, be sure to hit
subscribe and download all of our episodes. Also, be sure
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