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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Still broadcasting from the Civic Cipher studios. This is the
QR code where we share perspective, seek understanding, and shape outcomes.
The man you are about to hear from is a
man that I enjoy spending time with, especially when it
is in the studio together. He is the Q in
the QR code. He goes by the name of Qward.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
The voice you just finished hearing. I share his sentiment.
We did not get to do this often enough. Hopefully
that will change very soon. He is the R in
the QR code. He goes by the name ramses Jah.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
And be sure to stick around because we still have
to talk about Jimmy Kimmel, long time late night television host,
very funny man, lost his show.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
The reason might surprise.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
You, or maybe it won't if you listen to the
h't We're also going to be talking about how the
DJ removed his study saying white supremacy is the main
form of terrorism in the United States. Wonder what that's about.
But before we get there, as always, it is time
for Qwards clapback where today he's going to be discussing
the virtues of capitalism.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Q what say?

Speaker 2 (01:04):
I expected there to be a question mark on that
one the virtues of capitalism? Is there such a thing?
Is there such a thing? I believe that there are
people who would argue yes, And I think the position
that they take is you can make enough money to
change the system. The problem is no one has, like,

(01:25):
no one's got to that enough money thing. And they said, okay,
let me tear it down. They've done quite the opposite.
They've bolstered it as if having everything isn't enough.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
The billionaire class.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
If you got more money than you can spend in
ten lifetimes, but you still don't stand against fascism, then
what was the point? Like, sincerely, I'm not I'm asking
in good faith because I want to know.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
I don't. I don't think capitalism has any virtues at all.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
So we're watching our democracy bend under the weight of
Maggie extremism, book bands, voter suppression, flat political violence, and
the people who could make the biggest difference, the billionaires,
are either quiet, apathetic, unattached, or loud supporters of this movement.

(02:34):
Some even cheer and jump up and down at political
events and do Nazi salutes if you will. So this
apathy or neutrality, as they call it, why hide behind that.
Why sit in silence on your yacht or lounging in

(02:56):
your infinity pool.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
While all the people that you could help suffer.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
If there's a such thing as virtuous capitalism, how come
there's no good guys and bad guys in a billionaire class.
There's billionaires from all over the world contributing to MAGA,
bending the need to MAGA so called allied countries, companies
who we've been at odds with for all of our lives.

(03:25):
The billionaires are colluding, if you will, to support this
movement that's happening here. I think even those that recognize
it's wrong, they're protecting the system that made them billionaires.
And that is my point. If the idea is that
one day someone's going to make all that money to

(03:48):
do all the good with it, where are they? Because
this would be the bad signal moment, right like this
would be the moment where you show up, ha amassed
all of the money on earth for all of this time,
For a time like this that I can show up
and back some people who want.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
To do good. Even in the space that we were
in rams.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
We were talking about this the other day, and it's
a conversation that we need to continue to have. Billionaires
are making people oppose to us in this space, millionaires
for simply sharing that message, counter messaging to what we
talk about. They're creating millionaires, seemingly by the month, new

(04:36):
millionaire activists, new millionaire influencers, and their only qualification, their
only job, amplify the MAGA movement. Imagine if a fraction
of their fortunes went into voter protection, media literacy, grassroots organizing.
Imagine if they treated democracy like they treat their stock

(04:59):
portfoli with urgency, with investment, with strategy, which Ramdas has
been asking for since before November. Strategy. Okay, this doesn't
go our way. What do we do now? The right
has plenty in the way of strategy, money, resources, capital,

(05:20):
and kind of in a scary way, excitement. One of
their loudest influors, influencers, I'm sorry, suffered a tragic demise recently,
and those right wing groups took to the street with
their flags and their masks. They held vigils and shouted

(05:41):
his name at the top of their lungs. The government
bent the knee, lowered the flags, prayed and solidarity to
lift this man up. What are billionaires doing right now?
How come we have no idea, even from companies who

(06:05):
have been celebrated for that diversity, for their progressive thinking,
like Apple, the most successful retailer in history, is a
place that has always been known for its progressive, diverse

(06:28):
customer face and its creative background.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
The weirdos.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
You know, Bramseen and I famously referred to as unlucky weirdos,
and it's also a brand that we have. Part of
the mission statement came from that Apple quote, you know,
for the weirdos, for those who don't fit in, for
those who are different and brave enough to stand out
and do different things. Billionaires, where are you? Some of

(06:59):
you would love to have us believe you earned it.
You're a billionaire because you're smarter, sharper, more hard working.
But if all that brilliance leads to silence in the
face of fascism, then it's worthless. If you have the
power to help and you choose apathy and silence, you're

(07:19):
not a leader.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
You're a coward.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
And if you can't stand up when democracy itself is
on the line, then please don't tell me that you're
a visionary. Don't tell us you're saving the world because
they like to pair it that because when it mattered
the most, and when it matters the most, like right now,
you're doing nothing. Help me understand how there's no billionaires

(07:46):
on the good team.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, even the ones that we thought were I guess
supportive if kind of played the middle the election. So
I think your point is well made. Well, we'll see
what happens. Got to move on now having some dialogue
about the DOJ in the Department of Justice of the
United States of America. We're moving a study saying that

(08:15):
white supremacy is the main form of terrorism. It's funny
because we talked about terrorism yesterday and where political terrorism
actually stems from, and it ended up being when you
include nine to eleven, there was a huge chunk of it.
I think eighty some like eighty five percent of it
comes from nine to eleven and from the Oklahoma City bombings,

(08:39):
And there was eleven percent that came from the right,
right wing ideaology and indoctrination, and two percent that came
from the left. So in terms of right and left,
in that conversation, eleven percent comes from the right, two
percent comes from the left.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
So we know where the bulk of the terrorism.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
And the politically motivated sided numbers than that.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah, I believe it, but that would we use the
reputable source. I forget which one it was, but it
might have been like Pew or something. But it wouldn't
surprise me if there are other people that have calculated
it differently. But the fact is is that there's a problem,
a significant problem on the right relative to the problem
on the left right. So the Department of Justice removing

(09:23):
the study that validates that feels like a weird sort
of cover up where they're kind of paving the way
for the narrative that they want chronicle, which is to
say trans people and leftists and leftist rhetoric and all
that sort of stuff is what's causing the political climate

(09:43):
in this country when the fact of the matter is that,
indeed there was the president who was saying that these
people are vermin. You know, this president has been notoriously
his speeches are violent in and of themselves, you know
what I mean. This is a person who says, yeah,
beat you know, you know, get that son of a
bee off the field. You know, this is the way

(10:04):
he talks and the way he is, and a lot
of those people like that about him, right, But for
them to then pretend that he's not like that and
he didn't set this whole thing off, and to turn
a blind eye to the fact that now he's trying
to pass the blame to the people. That again, two
percent of all of the political violence comes from the left.

(10:26):
Two percent. That means ninety eight percent doesn't come from
the left, and to be fair, eleven percent comes from
the right. I don't want to mischaracterize and misrepresent the
right the way that they do the left, but that
is that's not the same. Okay, it's almost ten times
the amount, well not ten times, but what is it?
Five times the amount is what I'm trying to say,

(10:47):
So I'll share this article from the Black Information Network.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
The Department of Justice.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Has quietly removed a recent study from its website that
documented the scale of white supremacist violent extremism in America
to people.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
The twenty twenty four study.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Titled what NIJ Research tells Us about Domestic Terrorism, no
longer appeared on the DJ's Office of Justice Program's website
as of Friday, September twelfth, just days after conservative figure
Charlie Kirk was fatally shot. The opening lines of the
study highlighted how white supremacy is outpacing all forms of
terrorism and extremism in the United States. Quote Militant nationalistic,

(11:24):
white supremacist violent extremism has increased in the United States.
In fact, the number of far right attacks continues to
outpace all other types of terrorism and domestic violent extremism unquote,
the study reads. The study also reported that quote since
nineteen ninety, far right extremists have committed far more ideologically
motivated homicides than far left or radical Islamic terrorists, including

(11:46):
two hundred and twenty seven events that took more than
five hundred and twenty lives, according to four or four
media and multiple archive snapshots. The report was still available
on Thursday, September eleventh. On Friday, the links to both
the page and pdf redirected, and content could no longer
be accessed by the DOJ site. The removal came days

(12:06):
after Kirk was shot at Utah Valley University on September tenth.
The study contradicts recent statements made by senior Trump administration
officials about the alleged threat of left wing extremism in
the wake of Kirk's death. The Justice Department has declined
to specify the reason behind the removal. The page that
formally hosted the study now displays a notice stating that
it's reviewing all content to align with the administration. Quote

(12:29):
the Department of Justice's official Sorry, The Department of Justices
Office of Justice Programs is currently reviewing its websites and
materials in accordance with recent executive orders related to guidance.
During this review, some pages and publications will be unavailable.
We apologize or any inconvenience this may cause unquote it reads.

(12:49):
So you know, what really confuses me about this administration
is that part of the time they say the quiet
part out louds. Part of the time they say it
with their whole chest, and then part of the time
they try to get funny like with this, like oh

(13:11):
like on the one hand they say, we're reviewing everything
to be compliant with this administration. Is that what they
said to align with the administration? Right, So that's on
the one hand, right, that's saying it with your chest. Look,
we're taking everything down that doesn't fit with the narrative
that the president wants chronicled about this country. We're taking
everything down that doesn't reflect our view of the country.

(13:33):
His view, his view of the country, not the real view,
not the data driven view, not the scientific view, not
the valid shared reality view, but his what's it called
a deluded view of the country, right, And that's what
they're saying here, the reviewing all content to align with
the administration.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
Say it with your chest, right.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
But in the next line they're kind of trying to
talk out of the other sides of their mouth. You know,
during this review, some pages and publications will be unavailable.
We apologize for any inconvenience this may cost. Now, what
that does is that prevents the necessary conversations. It's a
brilliant strategy. But we can't then take this to MAGA
folks and say, look, look at what they're doing. They're
denying you the data that they have, that they that

(14:17):
they found. And then MAGA can get to that bottom
line and say, oh, well, look it's just a review
and some pages are going to be available during the review.
It's going to come back, you know, don't worry that
you think everything is vile and evil and blah blah blah.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
It's not just a review.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
So that's the part where it's like huh, it's a
brilliant strategy.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
You're overly politicized, perhaps, Yeah, and you've been that's what
those saying, you know, and doctrinated by the left. Yeah,
and you see things that aren't there. I'm just black, Yeah,
and I've been alive.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
The reason why I thought the numbers were skewed, I
looked into it. The Anti Defamation League did a study.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
Oh there, do.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
That since like the seventies, far right extremists are responsible
for seventy percent of the attacks, seventy, not eleven. The
reason you get that eleven number is because of the
number of people that were killed. I think it's more

(15:15):
important to say it the other way. You're right, seventy
percent of the attempts seventy percent of the times that
it's happened, because nine to eleven a lot of people incident.
So it makes it like there's all this Islamic religious
based terrorist activity and there's not a bunch of examples.
It's just that when there was one, a lot of

(15:38):
people died. Seventy percent of the attacks gives it the
necessary context and far less for the far left, because
there kind of isn't there's kind of no such thing.
And they say that they cite that examples of far
left extremist quote unquote terrorism typically involves like vandalism of

(16:02):
government property, not attacks on groups of people in mass murder.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Now, let's be clear, there are there have been some.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
It's not zero. It's not zero yet, right, but it's
important to point out that's where you need to look.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Is a It gives you a much greater idea of
at the frequency with which this happens. You know, they're
not always talented at what they're doing, they're not always
as successful as they want to be, but they attempted
a lot.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
A lot more than everyone else. Combined.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Every other type of political based violence and terrorism adds
up to thirty percent the far right seventy very very
important data.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
And the fact that they don't want to talk about
that is problematic in and of it.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
You see it.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
But the fact that they're trying to shift the blame
to try to suggest somehow that let's say, their suggestion
is that seventy percent of the attacks come from the left.
It's and all they need is enough of their base
to not question it, to not look at the ADL's
data or the ADLs I guess how they've they published

(17:26):
the results, you know, or how they've awarded their findings,
because the data is the same. It's just you know,
saying it that way gives it the proper gravity and
the proper scale.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
But I don't know.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
I guess if you're listening to us, don't believe the hype.
Not that you would, but you know, share this with
other people. Again, you can find this on the ADL.
The data that I was sharing earlier comes from let's
see the d Oh no, that wasn't the DJ site
that was from?

Speaker 3 (17:59):
Or was that? I want to make sure I share that.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
I'm sure, Oh no, that was from yesterday show, so
I don't have the day to hear, but I think
it was from the Pew Research Center. So yeah, check
those out if you need to change some people's minds
in your local communities. Right now, we got to move
on to entertainment. Jimmy Kimmel taken off the air now.
I want to say this. When Stephen Colbert announced that

(18:24):
this would be his last season, I started hearing some
stuff from some people that are connected, and the truth
is is that late night shows are not as profitable
as they once where you know, people have other forms
of entertainment. It's I guess it's an expensive show to

(18:45):
pay for the writers. Blah blah blah. And this was
the reason that people were saying that Stephen Colbert was
getting taken off of the air. And because of Donald
Trump's election, it sort of expedited it, and it caused
them to not try to figure out a way to

(19:06):
rework the show to where it would be profitable. It
was just easier for them to say, you know what,
it's not profitable anymore. Let's just let it go, right.
It's the end of the institution. Whereas you know, a
brand like you know, or a person I like Stephen Colbert,
you would continue to work with him. He can involve
with the with the Times and technology, et cetera. But
this is what I was hearing. I don't know if

(19:27):
there's any truth to it, but that's what I heard.
And then I was told just so you know, Jimmy
Fallon and Jimmy Kimmel are next, right, So because I
was told this, again, I don't know that it's true,
but because I was told this, I and then I
think I heard something about Jimmy Kimmel saying something to

(19:47):
that end. Like Trump's says that I'm next blah blah blah,
you know, and he just kind of like he didn't
push back on it, you know, he just he just
kind of had a jab of his own. So to me,
that meant like maybe this is something that is valid.
Who knows right? Or maybe indeed it is, you know,
Donald Trump threatening via the Federal Communications Commission to revoke

(20:12):
the licenses of the affiliates because they can't go after
the networks. They can only after the affiliates because the
networks can sue, the affiliates can't. The networks have free speech.
The affiliates are more beholden to the FCC. It was
explained to me by by Tony. You knows what Tony is.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
So, but the reason that ABC is.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Saying that Jimmy Kimmel is being taken off is very
different from the reason that I forget the network. It
might have been Paramount said that Stephen Colbert was taken off.
The reason that Jimmy Kimmel was taken off of the
air is because of some comments that he made about
Charlie Kirk. And we're going to get to those comments,

(20:57):
and we want you to find out the dis respectful
part that should have cost him his job, and you
tell us when you hear it. Okay, So I'm going
to share this from MSNBC Jimmy Kimmel's late night show,
Jimmy Kimmel Liive will be taking off the air indefinitely
after remarks he made Monday about the killing of conservative
influencer Charlie Kirk. ABC announced Wednesday evening. Quote we hit

(21:20):
some new lows over the weekend with the Maga gang
desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk
as anything other than one of them and doing everything
they can to score political points from it, unquote, kimil
said in his monolague, Kimill went on to criticize President
Donald Trump's reaction to news of Kirk's death, after which
he played a clip of Trump responding to a question

(21:42):
about Kirk by talking about the new White House ballroom. Okay, now,
I didn't hear anything that was disrespectful about Charlie Kirk
at all. He was talking about Maga you know, free
speech and all, and you know, but maybe ABC something,
So we're gonna keep reading, all right. Shortly before ABC's announcement,

(22:04):
Andrew Alford, president of Nexstar Media, one of the country's
largest TV station owners, said it would stop airing the
show after Kimmel's comments. In a statement, he wrote, quote,
mister Kimmel's comments about the death of mister Kirk are
offensive and insensitive at a critical time in our nation's
political discourse, and we do not believe they reflect the
spectrum of opinions, views, or values of the local communities
in which we are located unquote. Kimmel's remarks also drew

(22:27):
condemnation from Federal Communications Commission Chair Brendan Carr, who said
it quote appears to be an action by Jimmy Kimmel
to play into the narrative that this was somehow a
MAGA or Republican motivated person unquote. He added, quote what
people don't understand is that the broadcasters have a license
granted by us at the FCC, and that comes with

(22:50):
it an obligation to operate in the public interest unquote.
Carr issued a stark warning to the network, quote when
we see stuff like this, look we can do it
the easy or the hard way. These companies can find
ways to change conduct. On Kemmel. There's going to be
additional work for the FCC ahead unquote. So that is
a direct threat from the FCC on freedom of the

(23:15):
press and free speech. And there is a stunning silence
silence elsewhere. There will not be a stunning silence here
because we already know if they're coming after a rich,
powerful white man that represents half of the country in
terms of his politics, that black people are definitely on

(23:36):
the menu. And from where I sit, you know, you
don't give up without a fight. Obviously there's no quid
in me. My heart breaks for this man, you know,
if indeed.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
This is the reason. So my two cents Q yours.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
I have to vent my frustrations here.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
Please.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
We just spent a significant portion of this segment providing
cover and insulation and bail the network set. It's because
of the comments we're saying. It might be because of profitability,
or it might because the show's not as popular, or

(24:23):
it might because the writers cost too much, or it
might Why are we saying all these might bes? Why
are we pretending we don't know exactly why? It says
the word public here, but that's not what it means, right.
What people don't understand is that the broadcasters have a

(24:44):
license granted by us, and that comes with it an
obligation to operate in what should say, Because this is
not in quotes our interest.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
Why not just say it like? They don't need us
to pretend that we don't know what that means.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
They can they can say public interest, We shouldn't. Some
type of programming is going to be in that spot, right.
They try to say that that's why they let Colbert go,
but he's the most successful in that slot. As with
everything else that happens, even if it's less profitable.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
Than it has been, it's not not profitable.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
We do not have to make excuses for, or provide
cover for, or give the benefit of the doubt to
people that don't need us to do it. They have
seventy million people that will do that for them. They
do not need us to do it. We know what
silencing dissent looks like. We know what taking away freedom

(25:58):
of speech and taking away freedom of press looks like.
So we don't have to pretend that it was a
capitalist for profit decision. It was that the guy in
charge doesn't like what you said, so your fired decision.
The guy in charge doesn't like it when you disagree
with or criticize him or make fun of him. So
you're fired when even the people who did the firing

(26:21):
are saying they did it because of what he said.
We don't have to pretend that it was for something else,
that it even might have been or maybe was from
something else, because for what Even if he wasn't admitting it,
we know better. But he's admitting it after these comments,
And they told us the comments where he says nothing

(26:41):
vile about the young man that was killed, nothing disrespectful,
nothing reprehensible, nothing offensive. He points out and acknowledged what
we all learned collectively together when the man's father turned
him in. Yeah, the son of Republicans assassinated a Republican

(27:08):
And that's kind of all we know. Everything else is
opinion and speculation. But I don't think we need to
be the ones extending the benefit of the doubt on
why things like this are happening, because we know better.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
We work in this industry.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
We talk when these mics aren't on about what this
means for us.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
So I know why that happened.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
I'm not going to give the audience all these different
paths that it might be this or this or this
or that. When we all know better. I'm not going
to do their work for them. They do not need
me for that. This man says three hundred million people died.

(27:53):
Instead of just pushing Google and learning he was wrong
and admitting it, they just changed the narrative once again.
And this has become their strategy with everything. Their guy
is never wrong, no matter what, and they're never going
to stop supporting him no matter what. And if you disagree,
you don't deserve healthcare, food, happiness, security, protection, life, job, money, life, nothing.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
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Speaker 3 (28:38):
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Speaker 1 (28:39):
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