December 15, 2020 • 21 mins
Daniela catches up with former World #1 and multi-Grand Slam Champion, Sir Andy Murray. Daniela and Andy talk about the skills of broadcasting tennis, the desire to be in top physical shape, and Andy reveals his attempts at both art and cooking! Daniela also gets to Andy's real DNA and we find out what means more than winning or losing to him.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hello everyone, and welcome to another episode of the Real
DNA Podcast, where as per usual, I discussed with my
guests what it is that has made them who they
are so what their DNA is all about. Today I
have a great pleasure to talk to and discussed not
only his cooking skills with one of the best and
(00:25):
most respected players of all time, Sir Andy Murray. Alrighty, well, Andy,
thank you so much for your time. I know you've
been quite busy lately with your preseason training already. First
of all, tell me how did you like your TV
fundy preference. We really enjoyed that the last couple of days.
Is that something you might be interested one day? Um?
(00:51):
You know the stuff that I like. I did a
little bit of commentary ones at Wimbledon and I did
an amazing match with It was Natal and del potroll. Um.
It was a brilliant match. But I didn't I didn't
like sitting in the booth for that long. What I
what I do enjoy doing like, I like and analyzing
matches and stuff and talking about strategy and tactics and stuff.
(01:14):
So I like that side of things, not so much
the kind of Yeah, the the commentary side of things.
So I don't know. Maybe maybe when I finish, um,
maybe when I finished playing one day, but I'm not sure.
It depends depends what it depends on. It have to do.
How do you enjoy it? I the same thing when
(01:35):
you have to see the around for and those are
long hours. So that's the that's the tough part. But
like you said, analyzing the technical the practical aspect, that's
I think we're we enjoyed it, and I have to say,
you've an incredible job and we all appreciated it very much.
So definitely something you should consider one day. Um. Talking
about the media, it's part of our job of a
(01:58):
tennis professional. It's the something you've enjoyed over the years
doing or you kind of tried to keep a distance
from all of that. So when I first started on
the tour, I quite liked it. I didn't mind it,
um because I was young and like, I just sort
(02:20):
of said what I thought and I didn't think that
much about what I was saying. And I think a
lot of the especially in the British press, you know,
they seemed to enjoy that at the beginning. But then
I had a few issues, like early in my career
where I had said things that maybe I shouldn't have said.
Some things that I had intended to be jokes were
turned into something different that that were very serious, and yeah,
(02:44):
actually caused me quite a lot of issues for a
number of years. And then I started to feel very
anxious and nervous about doing, you know, interviews, press conferences,
especially things that were, um, I don't know, like like
doing something like this for example, like now, like I
like it. I know that it's comfortable and that we're
(03:07):
you know, nothing, nothing bad is going to happen. But
sometimes there's a few interviews that I did where I
just I don't know, it made me feel feel uncomfortable,
and um, probably in the middle part of my career,
I didn't enjoy it so much, whereas now, um, you know,
I'm fine with that. The latter part of my career,
I didn't mind it. I didn't mind it so much,
(03:27):
and um, yeah it's fine. But it was definitely appeared
in my career where I struggled with it and I
felt very, like I said, anxious, and I didn't really
know how to how to act and how to behave,
and yeah, it was it was tough. It's such a
good point in Mike actually, because sometimes we just talk
like these two friends and then when you see what
(03:48):
comes out of that in the paper, you go like, wow,
where did that come from? Um? Yes, So how were
you able to actually deal with that incre I double
pressure you had on your shoulders? I can't even imagine
because the rest of us, you know, we come to
England for one month of the year. Yes there are
a few things written, but then we go home where
(04:09):
you have these like twelve months all the time. Yeah,
so it was Yeah, like I said, I did find
it difficult, but then I started to um, my way
of dealing with it was to just be quite um, well,
let's say boring. I guess like I never gave away
too much detail and never said anything maybe that was
(04:32):
I don't know that controversial or anything like that. So
it just became, yeah, part of my job, which I
think is a bit of a shame because I think, um,
I don't think I'm the only player that has has
felt that way, but I sometimes think that, um, yeah,
that the sport loses a little bit because players maybe
(04:53):
don't show like all of their personality or share all
of their all of their thoughts and I also, you know,
I think that I feel like in tennis, we do
too many interviews and too many press conferences, Like you know,
I've done one after every single match I played in
my whole career, apart from maybe five or ten, which
(05:14):
has been I think I played like eight hundred matches,
and we do one after every single Yeah, like I said,
every match we play. And I think it's just I
don't know, they've become a bit boring sometimes, whereas I
think in other sports that's not always, not always the case,
and I think that that that would make things a
little bit more interesting. But yeah, my way of dealing
(05:36):
with it, and and to sort of, I guess take
less pressure off myself was just to um, yeah, it
was just to give kind of quite bland generic cancers
and it helped. But yeah, probably came across me sometimes
maybe not being as interested as I should have been,
which wasn't necessarily the case. I just didn't want to
(05:57):
say something that would create me, you know, take energy
away from what I was trying to do on the core. Basically, Yeah,
it's so true. It's like what we almost built kind
of a wall because and then we get criticized for
that that they want to see more emotions than we
do that and then you know things are taken completely
out of context. So yeah, it's such a good point
(06:17):
you make talking about more detailed. I will ask you
something very specific that interests me so much. That you
said a couple of days ago you want to come
back stronger and fitter than ever. Mm hmm. That is
um to me, the thing I admire the most about you, honestly,
And I can't even imagine how that is possible because
(06:42):
knowing how I felt the words, you know, the older
I was getting, it's just so hard. So please explain
me a little bit. How do you even go about this?
So obviously, like from throughout my career, there's certain like
physical the challenges that I've had for myself, were certain
(07:03):
sessions that I've done when I've been kind of at
my fittest, and um, you know, certain exercise I do
in the gym that like, like with weights, it's quite
easy to tell, like on a certain exercise, like the
best I've done at that is, you know, two hundred
kilos three times for example. So you know, there's been
like key certain exercises that I'm I'm doing which I've
(07:25):
been doing throughout my whole career, where yes, it's it's
very difficult as you get older to obviously get fitter
and stronger and those things. But like this off season
for me, usually my off seasons have been you know,
four or five weeks, whereas this time it's ten weeks.
So it's given me the opportunity to to work on
(07:47):
those things. That the one thing that hasn't got to
the level that it used to be yet is the speed,
which I spoke about as well, and that's the one
thing that maybe won't get to to where it was.
But all of the other things like the strength and
the the endurance and those things like they they can. Um.
(08:08):
So yeah, I'm wanting to give these last few years
like the best shot, um that I have, because actually,
when I came back and played like in New York
and the at the US Open, like I felt really
really good, like physically on the court, my tennis wasn't
as I would have liked. But then I you know,
I picked up this injury after my first match in
(08:30):
New York, and then it kind of were the end
of the year for me, and I just don't want
that too. I don't want that to happen again. Obviously
it could, but the best way to avoid that is
obviously to get as strong as possible and get as
fit as possible to try and reduce the chances of
it so I can give the next few years a
good go. So that's kind of, yeah, what I want
(08:51):
to do, and yeah, hopefully hopefully it works out. Where
do you find the drive and motivation that I keep
saying in on and on on TV that to me,
you are the best example, not only tennis, in all
the sports. After everything you've achieved to still have the
same drive. Um. Yeah, that's a good question. There's definitely
(09:16):
been times of the last few years where I lost that, like, um, yeah,
just because of the injuries and stuff like. Yeah, and
I hadn't been working as hard as what I needed to.
And I think that's like as you get older, you
need to obviously there's certain things that you can do differently,
but you almost need to work harder to stay in shape,
like and spend more time like with your physio and
(09:38):
stuff like afterwards to feel to feel good. Um, but yeah,
I think just in the last sort of two or
three months, I actually I got on I got on
this machine that measures your body fat um after the
French Open, and it wasn't good. Oh, come on you
(10:01):
and I don't believe you are actually complaining here. So
what it wasn't good in comparison to what I've done
when I was younger. And actually, you know, it was
something like as simple as that where I was like, like,
come on, Andy, you need to just get back to like,
you know, I've been working fairly hard, but I could
have done much better, and I could have been eating
(10:22):
healthier and I could have been sleeping better. And it's
like I was like, come on, like if I may
never get back to being number one in the world,
but I want to do everything that I did when
I was number one in the world to give myself
the best chance to see what I can achieve. And
that was yeah, I was incredibly professional, I worked hard
(10:43):
at it, properly, slept well um, and yeah, that's that's
kind of what started this latest kind of change in mentality.
There's something as small as that, which, like you say,
I know, I'm not like very overweight or anything, but
it was just something that I got on there and
I was like, no, like you should be you should
(11:04):
be in betterchete, you should have less body fat, you
should be eating better and stuff. So that was that
was something as small as small as that. It wasn't
what someone said to me or a match that I
lost or whatever it was. That's what it was so funny.
It's it's the perception we have all ourselves. I know,
exactually what I mean. I did that test also a
(11:25):
year ago, and when you are used to what it
used to be, and then you did the number, I'm like,
oh my god, everyone thinks I'm free, but it's like, yes,
I go for it in mile run, but that's it's
in our head. It's like, oh my god, this is
so embarrassing. But after you said that you want to
be fitter and stronger, I was like, I'm I'm actually
debating off just for myself. Try to do the same
(11:48):
and give myself maybe two or three months of proper training.
And if I do that, you will be the one
to blame when I get that and make it come back.
No no, no, no no no no. I would just
do the the training part just to see physically whether
it's possible or not. So I think you are not motivating.
You know, so many outlets at least out there, but
also normal people Like you said, it's about being in
(12:11):
the best shape and the best version of yourself. Thank
you for that. Anyways, let's move on to another subject.
It's almost December. Hm, when are we expecting your wonderful
Christmas jumper? Oh? My Christmas jumper appear and that normally
the Christmas jumpers normally come out on Christmas Day are
(12:35):
the following day because usually, like in our family, we
get given like a terrible well I do anyway, I
get getting a terrible Christmas jumper every year. So yeah,
it either comes from my wife or one of my uncles.
This year, I'm obviously not probably not going to be
(12:55):
able to spend it with like our whole family. Um,
so yeah, I'll be up to my wife have to
pick a bad one, pick a bad one for me.
But yeah, I've had some some brilliant, brilliant jumpers, uh,
brilliant jumpers over the year, which I keep in my
I've got them all in my closet. We need you
to do the training in them, that would be Yeah,
(13:18):
there's there's such terrible like quality, like they're like itchy.
They feel awful to have on so I only I know,
I normally only keep them on for like the dinner, um,
and then maybe a picture, and yeah, I get them
off because they they're awful. They're like, you know, really cheap, terrible,
(13:38):
terrible talks. Um. You mentioned Kim there, and obviously it's
a cliche to say, but behind every man's success that
there's obviously a wonderful my woman as well. Um, I
want you to go back twenty years ago, isn't isn't it?
It's close from when we it was fifth it's yeah,
(14:02):
like fifteen years ago. I think the credit for that
Cape Town. Yes, so we yeah, yeah, yes, so we met.
I was I'm thirty three now, and we met when
i was eighteen. No, wait, no, because we were doing
(14:24):
the preseason with Nige and there was thousands. No, No,
I couldn't have been to This must have been the
second time you worked with Nige. Ah, we didn't go
to Pepe No, because we we were deaf, we were dead.
(14:44):
I would remember if I had met her when we
were thirteen. But yeah, I met her. Yeah, I met
her when we were eighteen. Um, so we we met.
The first time we ever met was a few months
beforehand in New York at the US Open. That was
the very first time I played in New York at
the US Open. And um, I think Nige was there.
(15:07):
Nige was there with you. But we went for dinner
one night with Nige and his family and my Cultures family,
Petch petchs family and stuff, and that was where we
first met. And then and then yeah, we obviously in
Cape Town a few months a few months later, it
was kind of when it got more serious. Oh, I'm
(15:30):
saying that I wanted to take a little bit. You
have not kept on doing the pre season it was yeah,
so that was yeah, that that was when it yet
became pretty pretty serious because after then, like I was
going away for a few months, we weren't gonna see
each other obviously, like with the Australian opening staff. And
then yeah, that was kind of when we decided, like
to make a make a thing really so and yet
(15:54):
it worked has worked out. Well. What are some of
the things because of the lockdown that as a family
had to kind of learn because you are not under
all you are more often home. Yeah, I mean so
that the hardest part um the beginning part of lockdown
was actually fine because you know, We're lucky that we
(16:15):
have like a garden and outside space and things, and
you know, we're fortunate that we we had that, um,
you know, so we could at least be outside with
the kids and stuff. But the hardest part, for sure
was the online the online learning, so doing the schooling
at home as parents, because you're obviously not treined um
(16:37):
in how to how to teach them certain things. And
you know, my eldest daughter was starting to learn to
you know, to write and stuff like that, and you know,
there's a specific way that they teach those things and
she was getting very frustrated with us. And it's difficult
as parents too. I don't know yet just to just
(16:57):
to keep supporting them and stuff and I can, um,
which we I think for the most part, we we
did well. Um. But yeah, I learned more in the
lockdown about the things that I couldn't do. Um. I'm
not very good at many things unfortunately. Um. You know,
like my daughter is like asking me to like draw
(17:20):
things for them and paint things like animals, and my
wife is brilliant at painting and art, um, And I
mean I'm useless. I tried a bit of cooking, which
was okay, but I need I need to stick to
like a specific recipe and I will not deviate from it.
There's no flare, there's no you know, adding things that
(17:42):
aren't you know, on the recipe to make it taste better,
like and like I don't know how to you know,
like let's say it says, okay, this meal will take
thirty minutes. I have no idea how to adjust that,
you know, like if it's going wrong, like if I'm
making a sauce and it's not thick enough, like what
I should be doing too to change that? So I
(18:04):
just blame the recipe if it goes wrong. Um it
just like in themage blame the colodes exactly. Well, I
think you're a little bit harsh on yourself there, that
you are explosive for many things because I'm sure whatever
you do, you want to do it to the perfection,
just like with everything. UM. I'm glad you open up
that subject because the last question I wanted to ask you. Um,
(18:28):
So my podcast is called the DNA. Yeah, because I
ask all my guests what they feel they're real DNA
is that Tennis has given you and something that you
would like to transfer to your kids. As well. Yes,
that's a great question and something that a lot of
(18:48):
times when I've worked with like psychologists, like they've asked
me questions that has been like, great, well, if if
you have a kid one day, what would you tell
them in this situation to try to help like teach
yourself and like for me, I had always but for
quite large parts of my career the only thing that
(19:08):
was important was winning and losing, which obviously in sport, yeah,
I mean, you could argue that that is the most
important thing, but I learned that it's actually about if
you work hard and give your best, so try as
hard as you can, then the outcome doesn't matter as
(19:28):
much you can cook you can handle that outcome much better.
If you've done everything that you can, you can accept
maybe just not achieving what what you want. And I
kind of always because obviously at the age that my
kids are at, like winning and losing it is the
difference between like, you know, being in a good mood
and crying for ten minutes. And I'm always trying to
(19:52):
kind of teach them like it's okay if you lose,
providing you did did you try your hardest and you know,
did you give your best and that's kind of yeah,
well I tried to what I tried to teach them
along with you know, good manners and you know and
and all of those things. But I think, yeah, for me, like,
I definitely learned that as I went on in my
(20:13):
career and hope that that's something that I don't know
players and people that have watched me would say, like
at the end of my career that I did work
as hard as I could and I did try my best,
and yeah, there's maybe some tournaments that I, you know,
I wish I could have won or whatever that that
I didn't um, but I definitely I definitely gave my
(20:34):
best effort so I can. When I finish, I think
I'll be proud of that and you know, hopefully won't
have too many too many regrets. Brilliant and thank you
so much, and I hope that giving your BASTI will
last as long as you wish. You see exciting two
dozen to anyone from you. Thanks, yeah, you will. I
(20:56):
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Hello everyone, and welcome to another episode of the Real
DNA Podcast, where as per usual, I discussed with my
guests what it is that has made them who they
are so what their DNA is all about. Today I
have a great pleasure to talk to and discussed not
only his cooking skills with one of the best and
(00:25):
most respected players of all time, Sir Andy Murray. Alrighty, well, Andy,
thank you so much for your time. I know you've
been quite busy lately with your preseason training already. First
of all, tell me how did you like your TV
fundy preference. We really enjoyed that the last couple of days.
Is that something you might be interested one day? Um?
(00:51):
You know the stuff that I like. I did a
little bit of commentary ones at Wimbledon and I did
an amazing match with It was Natal and del potroll. Um.
It was a brilliant match. But I didn't I didn't
like sitting in the booth for that long. What I
what I do enjoy doing like, I like and analyzing
matches and stuff and talking about strategy and tactics and stuff.
(01:14):
So I like that side of things, not so much
the kind of Yeah, the the commentary side of things.
So I don't know. Maybe maybe when I finish, um,
maybe when I finished playing one day, but I'm not sure.
It depends depends what it depends on. It have to do.
How do you enjoy it? I the same thing when
(01:35):
you have to see the around for and those are
long hours. So that's the that's the tough part. But
like you said, analyzing the technical the practical aspect, that's
I think we're we enjoyed it, and I have to say,
you've an incredible job and we all appreciated it very much.
So definitely something you should consider one day. Um. Talking
about the media, it's part of our job of a
(01:58):
tennis professional. It's the something you've enjoyed over the years
doing or you kind of tried to keep a distance
from all of that. So when I first started on
the tour, I quite liked it. I didn't mind it,
um because I was young and like, I just sort
(02:20):
of said what I thought and I didn't think that
much about what I was saying. And I think a
lot of the especially in the British press, you know,
they seemed to enjoy that at the beginning. But then
I had a few issues, like early in my career
where I had said things that maybe I shouldn't have said.
Some things that I had intended to be jokes were
turned into something different that that were very serious, and yeah,
(02:44):
actually caused me quite a lot of issues for a
number of years. And then I started to feel very
anxious and nervous about doing, you know, interviews, press conferences,
especially things that were, um, I don't know, like like
doing something like this for example, like now, like I
like it. I know that it's comfortable and that we're
(03:07):
you know, nothing, nothing bad is going to happen. But
sometimes there's a few interviews that I did where I
just I don't know, it made me feel feel uncomfortable,
and um, probably in the middle part of my career,
I didn't enjoy it so much, whereas now, um, you know,
I'm fine with that. The latter part of my career,
I didn't mind it. I didn't mind it so much,
(03:27):
and um, yeah it's fine. But it was definitely appeared
in my career where I struggled with it and I
felt very, like I said, anxious, and I didn't really
know how to how to act and how to behave,
and yeah, it was it was tough. It's such a
good point in Mike actually, because sometimes we just talk
like these two friends and then when you see what
(03:48):
comes out of that in the paper, you go like, wow,
where did that come from? Um? Yes, So how were
you able to actually deal with that incre I double
pressure you had on your shoulders? I can't even imagine
because the rest of us, you know, we come to
England for one month of the year. Yes there are
a few things written, but then we go home where
(04:09):
you have these like twelve months all the time. Yeah,
so it was Yeah, like I said, I did find
it difficult, but then I started to um, my way
of dealing with it was to just be quite um, well,
let's say boring. I guess like I never gave away
too much detail and never said anything maybe that was
(04:32):
I don't know that controversial or anything like that. So
it just became, yeah, part of my job, which I
think is a bit of a shame because I think, um,
I don't think I'm the only player that has has
felt that way, but I sometimes think that, um, yeah,
that the sport loses a little bit because players maybe
(04:53):
don't show like all of their personality or share all
of their all of their thoughts and I also, you know,
I think that I feel like in tennis, we do
too many interviews and too many press conferences, Like you know,
I've done one after every single match I played in
my whole career, apart from maybe five or ten, which
(05:14):
has been I think I played like eight hundred matches,
and we do one after every single Yeah, like I said,
every match we play. And I think it's just I
don't know, they've become a bit boring sometimes, whereas I
think in other sports that's not always, not always the case,
and I think that that that would make things a
little bit more interesting. But yeah, my way of dealing
(05:36):
with it, and and to sort of, I guess take
less pressure off myself was just to um, yeah, it
was just to give kind of quite bland generic cancers
and it helped. But yeah, probably came across me sometimes
maybe not being as interested as I should have been,
which wasn't necessarily the case. I just didn't want to
(05:57):
say something that would create me, you know, take energy
away from what I was trying to do on the core. Basically, Yeah,
it's so true. It's like what we almost built kind
of a wall because and then we get criticized for
that that they want to see more emotions than we
do that and then you know things are taken completely
out of context. So yeah, it's such a good point
(06:17):
you make talking about more detailed. I will ask you
something very specific that interests me so much. That you
said a couple of days ago you want to come
back stronger and fitter than ever. Mm hmm. That is
um to me, the thing I admire the most about you, honestly,
And I can't even imagine how that is possible because
(06:42):
knowing how I felt the words, you know, the older
I was getting, it's just so hard. So please explain
me a little bit. How do you even go about this?
So obviously, like from throughout my career, there's certain like
physical the challenges that I've had for myself, were certain
(07:03):
sessions that I've done when I've been kind of at
my fittest, and um, you know, certain exercise I do
in the gym that like, like with weights, it's quite
easy to tell, like on a certain exercise, like the
best I've done at that is, you know, two hundred
kilos three times for example. So you know, there's been
like key certain exercises that I'm I'm doing which I've
(07:25):
been doing throughout my whole career, where yes, it's it's
very difficult as you get older to obviously get fitter
and stronger and those things. But like this off season
for me, usually my off seasons have been you know,
four or five weeks, whereas this time it's ten weeks.
So it's given me the opportunity to to work on
(07:47):
those things. That the one thing that hasn't got to
the level that it used to be yet is the speed,
which I spoke about as well, and that's the one
thing that maybe won't get to to where it was.
But all of the other things like the strength and
the the endurance and those things like they they can. Um.
(08:08):
So yeah, I'm wanting to give these last few years
like the best shot, um that I have, because actually,
when I came back and played like in New York
and the at the US Open, like I felt really
really good, like physically on the court, my tennis wasn't
as I would have liked. But then I you know,
I picked up this injury after my first match in
(08:30):
New York, and then it kind of were the end
of the year for me, and I just don't want
that too. I don't want that to happen again. Obviously
it could, but the best way to avoid that is
obviously to get as strong as possible and get as
fit as possible to try and reduce the chances of
it so I can give the next few years a
good go. So that's kind of, yeah, what I want
(08:51):
to do, and yeah, hopefully hopefully it works out. Where
do you find the drive and motivation that I keep
saying in on and on on TV that to me,
you are the best example, not only tennis, in all
the sports. After everything you've achieved to still have the
same drive. Um. Yeah, that's a good question. There's definitely
(09:16):
been times of the last few years where I lost that, like, um, yeah,
just because of the injuries and stuff like. Yeah, and
I hadn't been working as hard as what I needed to.
And I think that's like as you get older, you
need to obviously there's certain things that you can do differently,
but you almost need to work harder to stay in shape,
like and spend more time like with your physio and
(09:38):
stuff like afterwards to feel to feel good. Um, but yeah,
I think just in the last sort of two or
three months, I actually I got on I got on
this machine that measures your body fat um after the
French Open, and it wasn't good. Oh, come on you
(10:01):
and I don't believe you are actually complaining here. So
what it wasn't good in comparison to what I've done
when I was younger. And actually, you know, it was
something like as simple as that where I was like, like,
come on, Andy, you need to just get back to like,
you know, I've been working fairly hard, but I could
have done much better, and I could have been eating
(10:22):
healthier and I could have been sleeping better. And it's
like I was like, come on, like if I may
never get back to being number one in the world,
but I want to do everything that I did when
I was number one in the world to give myself
the best chance to see what I can achieve. And
that was yeah, I was incredibly professional, I worked hard
(10:43):
at it, properly, slept well um, and yeah, that's that's
kind of what started this latest kind of change in mentality.
There's something as small as that, which, like you say,
I know, I'm not like very overweight or anything, but
it was just something that I got on there and
I was like, no, like you should be you should
(11:04):
be in betterchete, you should have less body fat, you
should be eating better and stuff. So that was that
was something as small as small as that. It wasn't
what someone said to me or a match that I
lost or whatever it was. That's what it was so funny.
It's it's the perception we have all ourselves. I know,
exactually what I mean. I did that test also a
(11:25):
year ago, and when you are used to what it
used to be, and then you did the number, I'm like,
oh my god, everyone thinks I'm free, but it's like, yes,
I go for it in mile run, but that's it's
in our head. It's like, oh my god, this is
so embarrassing. But after you said that you want to
be fitter and stronger, I was like, I'm I'm actually
debating off just for myself. Try to do the same
(11:48):
and give myself maybe two or three months of proper training.
And if I do that, you will be the one
to blame when I get that and make it come back.
No no, no, no no no no. I would just
do the the training part just to see physically whether
it's possible or not. So I think you are not motivating.
You know, so many outlets at least out there, but
also normal people Like you said, it's about being in
(12:11):
the best shape and the best version of yourself. Thank
you for that. Anyways, let's move on to another subject.
It's almost December. Hm, when are we expecting your wonderful
Christmas jumper? Oh? My Christmas jumper appear and that normally
the Christmas jumpers normally come out on Christmas Day are
(12:35):
the following day because usually, like in our family, we
get given like a terrible well I do anyway, I
get getting a terrible Christmas jumper every year. So yeah,
it either comes from my wife or one of my uncles.
This year, I'm obviously not probably not going to be
(12:55):
able to spend it with like our whole family. Um,
so yeah, I'll be up to my wife have to
pick a bad one, pick a bad one for me.
But yeah, I've had some some brilliant, brilliant jumpers, uh,
brilliant jumpers over the year, which I keep in my
I've got them all in my closet. We need you
to do the training in them, that would be Yeah,
(13:18):
there's there's such terrible like quality, like they're like itchy.
They feel awful to have on so I only I know,
I normally only keep them on for like the dinner, um,
and then maybe a picture, and yeah, I get them
off because they they're awful. They're like, you know, really cheap, terrible,
(13:38):
terrible talks. Um. You mentioned Kim there, and obviously it's
a cliche to say, but behind every man's success that
there's obviously a wonderful my woman as well. Um, I
want you to go back twenty years ago, isn't isn't it?
It's close from when we it was fifth it's yeah,
(14:02):
like fifteen years ago. I think the credit for that
Cape Town. Yes, so we yeah, yeah, yes, so we met.
I was I'm thirty three now, and we met when
i was eighteen. No, wait, no, because we were doing
(14:24):
the preseason with Nige and there was thousands. No, No,
I couldn't have been to This must have been the
second time you worked with Nige. Ah, we didn't go
to Pepe No, because we we were deaf, we were dead.
(14:44):
I would remember if I had met her when we
were thirteen. But yeah, I met her. Yeah, I met
her when we were eighteen. Um, so we we met.
The first time we ever met was a few months
beforehand in New York at the US Open. That was
the very first time I played in New York at
the US Open. And um, I think Nige was there.
(15:07):
Nige was there with you. But we went for dinner
one night with Nige and his family and my Cultures family,
Petch petchs family and stuff, and that was where we
first met. And then and then yeah, we obviously in
Cape Town a few months a few months later, it
was kind of when it got more serious. Oh, I'm
(15:30):
saying that I wanted to take a little bit. You
have not kept on doing the pre season it was yeah,
so that was yeah, that that was when it yet
became pretty pretty serious because after then, like I was
going away for a few months, we weren't gonna see
each other obviously, like with the Australian opening staff. And
then yeah, that was kind of when we decided, like
to make a make a thing really so and yet
(15:54):
it worked has worked out. Well. What are some of
the things because of the lockdown that as a family
had to kind of learn because you are not under
all you are more often home. Yeah, I mean so
that the hardest part um the beginning part of lockdown
was actually fine because you know, We're lucky that we
(16:15):
have like a garden and outside space and things, and
you know, we're fortunate that we we had that, um,
you know, so we could at least be outside with
the kids and stuff. But the hardest part, for sure
was the online the online learning, so doing the schooling
at home as parents, because you're obviously not treined um
(16:37):
in how to how to teach them certain things. And
you know, my eldest daughter was starting to learn to
you know, to write and stuff like that, and you know,
there's a specific way that they teach those things and
she was getting very frustrated with us. And it's difficult
as parents too. I don't know yet just to just
(16:57):
to keep supporting them and stuff and I can, um,
which we I think for the most part, we we
did well. Um. But yeah, I learned more in the
lockdown about the things that I couldn't do. Um. I'm
not very good at many things unfortunately. Um. You know,
like my daughter is like asking me to like draw
(17:20):
things for them and paint things like animals, and my
wife is brilliant at painting and art, um, And I
mean I'm useless. I tried a bit of cooking, which
was okay, but I need I need to stick to
like a specific recipe and I will not deviate from it.
There's no flare, there's no you know, adding things that
(17:42):
aren't you know, on the recipe to make it taste better,
like and like I don't know how to you know,
like let's say it says, okay, this meal will take
thirty minutes. I have no idea how to adjust that,
you know, like if it's going wrong, like if I'm
making a sauce and it's not thick enough, like what
I should be doing too to change that? So I
(18:04):
just blame the recipe if it goes wrong. Um it
just like in themage blame the colodes exactly. Well, I
think you're a little bit harsh on yourself there, that
you are explosive for many things because I'm sure whatever
you do, you want to do it to the perfection,
just like with everything. UM. I'm glad you open up
that subject because the last question I wanted to ask you. Um,
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So my podcast is called the DNA. Yeah, because I
ask all my guests what they feel they're real DNA
is that Tennis has given you and something that you
would like to transfer to your kids. As well. Yes,
that's a great question and something that a lot of
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times when I've worked with like psychologists, like they've asked
me questions that has been like, great, well, if if
you have a kid one day, what would you tell
them in this situation to try to help like teach
yourself and like for me, I had always but for
quite large parts of my career the only thing that
(19:08):
was important was winning and losing, which obviously in sport, yeah,
I mean, you could argue that that is the most
important thing, but I learned that it's actually about if
you work hard and give your best, so try as
hard as you can, then the outcome doesn't matter as
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much you can cook you can handle that outcome much better.
If you've done everything that you can, you can accept
maybe just not achieving what what you want. And I
kind of always because obviously at the age that my
kids are at, like winning and losing it is the
difference between like, you know, being in a good mood
and crying for ten minutes. And I'm always trying to
(19:52):
kind of teach them like it's okay if you lose,
providing you did did you try your hardest and you know,
did you give your best and that's kind of yeah,
well I tried to what I tried to teach them
along with you know, good manners and you know and
and all of those things. But I think, yeah, for me, like,
I definitely learned that as I went on in my
(20:13):
career and hope that that's something that I don't know
players and people that have watched me would say, like
at the end of my career that I did work
as hard as I could and I did try my best,
and yeah, there's maybe some tournaments that I, you know,
I wish I could have won or whatever that that
I didn't um, but I definitely I definitely gave my
(20:34):
best effort so I can. When I finish, I think
I'll be proud of that and you know, hopefully won't
have too many too many regrets. Brilliant and thank you
so much, and I hope that giving your BASTI will
last as long as you wish. You see exciting two
dozen to anyone from you. Thanks, yeah, you will. I
(20:56):
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