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November 9, 2020 72 mins

Jeezy sits down with New York Times best-selling author and life and business strategist Tony Robbins in the debut episode of the (re)Session Podcast. The two discuss Tony's journey from homelessness to success, the power of mindset during difficult times, overcoming fear, finding inspiration and much more.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Recessing Podcast with Yours Truly. Jeezy is a production
of Black Effect and Our Heart Radio. This is Jeezy,
Grammy nominated Urban philosopher, philanthropists and entrepreneur, and this is
my show, The Recessing Podcast. For years, I used my

(00:22):
music to highlight the struggles and issues facing this country
the economy, politics, protests, mental health and more. And now
strong voices are more important than ever before. On this show,
I will speak the powerful people from all walks of
life to have real conversations about change, perseverance, and hope.

(00:43):
In each episode will feature a sample of a song
from my new album, The Recession Too. So, without further ado,
let's begin The Recessing Podcast. Let's get it. Today's so
was a conversation with life and business strategist Tony Robbins,

(01:05):
one of my favorites. He's a New York Times best
selling author and a personal inspiration to me. The rocks
with him. This man came up and found success and
started off with literally nothing, rags the richest my type
of story. Tony said his success is based on determination, mindset,
and faith. All of those ideas were an inspiration in

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my new song The Kingdom, I gotta give him my heart.
I gotta give my soul. You gotta put through the pain,
gotta stay in control. And they want me to fold.
They want me to bring let me get in the
streets nothing. Give me my faith, Timmy, What could I trust? Timmy?
What's still I feel? Cann't see him, my cup, cann't
see him my tears. Get him into my little little

(01:47):
girl on the drums. Know how school diploma they think
that I'm doing. Here's our conversation with Tony Robbins. Let's
get it the Recessing Podcast. I want to give me
a charge. They want to give me a case to
call me and figure fight to my face. They call
me and then they call me and killer. Welcome to
the Recession Podcast. And basically I did this. This is
my first episode. This is something to um, you know,

(02:10):
put light on the new project that we'll be dropping
and uh oh eight. I wrote my first Recession project
and it was probably one of my best records to
date because I had a lot of the energy to
pull from from the people and just what was going
on in the world. And and fast forward to the day,
it's the same thing, and uh it's just you know,
It's just a pleasure to talk to you about these things.

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So so welcome to the Recession Podcast for sure. For sure.
So so my first thing is just without just digging
deep off the rip, It's just like I listened to
your podcast all the time when I'm in the gym.
I read a few your books. Um, you know, I
watched a lot of your moves. And you know, my

(02:52):
thing is like, how did this Tony Robbins uh mindset?
Like how did this start? Like I remember listening to
something we talked about. You was going through something and
you was um on the highway and I think he
was in your car and you pour it over and
you started crying, and you just like, you know what
I gotta really, you know, bring this together. And I

(03:14):
just want to know how to that mindset start because
I know how I started for me. But I would
love to hear I want to hear yours too afterwards.
If you have to give me the time, I'd love
to hear. Absolutely, I love this to be exchanged. Listen.
I just I've always loved people. Man, I just have
this like when when I was a little kid and
I was like five years old, I want a little
brother more than anything. And we lived in a real

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poor part of Carson in Central l A, South central,
and we moved around a lot, and so I was
completely isolated. And there was just like eighty five year
old woman next door, and I used to call her
every day, a young lady to come over the fence
and talk to me. I just love the light people
up and I hate suffering. I got enough of my
own suffering. I grew up in her pretty tough environment.
You know, we were always had no money for food.

(03:57):
One of the reasons I feed up. You know, a
hundred million meals a year every year in the United States.
I've been doing it now for five and a half years,
six years, and we had over half a billion people.
It's not because I'm a good guys, because I know
what it feels like to not have food and so um.
The environment was tough. I had four different fathers, um
a lot of violence. My mom was a beautiful woman,
great soul. I wouldn't be who I'm without her. You know,

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she since passed. But when she drank and she used
the prescription drugs, the mixture made her crazy. And I
was a little guy, and she would slam my head
against the wall until I bled, or she'd pour a
liquid soaked down my throat to make me throw up
because she thought I was lying about something I wasn't lying,
and kind of messes with your head when the person
you loved the most is trying to hurt you. And
one night she chased me out of the house with

(04:38):
a carving knife, and I knew she wasn't gonna kill me,
but I wasn't going back in that house. So I
went slept. I wentn't slept on a mountain, and then
it rained, and so the next thing I knew is
I went to a friend's house and said, could I
could I stay in your laundry room. And my my
process had already started before this, because when I was seventeen,

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I worked for a man and just trying to make
money going to school. I have trying to help support
my family as in high school. And this man was,
you know, my mom was familiar with him, and my
dad was talking to Scott used to be such a
loser and now he's so successful, and he wanted so
to come work. He was buying and selling real estate,
you know, at the peak in Orange County, California, at
the time in the seventies, and so I went to

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go move stuff, you know, and work my ass off.
And he's like, man, you really you got some hustling
you man? He goes, yeah, you you can really go someplace.
I don't see anybody works that hard. And I said, well,
you know, if you mind, I'd like to ask you
a couple of questions, you know, sitting at you know,
just a little break, And I said, I told him,
I said, my dad said you used to be such
a loser, and you're so successful and can say this
ship right. And the guy said your dad said what

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And I said yeah, and he said, well, he's probably right.
I wasn't a bit of a lousion. I said, what
what turned you around? He goes, I went to this
seminar and I never even heard the word seminar. And
he goes, you know a man who spent twenty thirty
years of life and he built himself to be really successful.
He comes and teaches you in like three or four
hours the best nobody's learned in decades, and save your decade.
I was like, wow, that sounds interesting. Could you get

(06:03):
me in? And he said yeah, And then he just
paused and I said, well, will you and he said no,
and I said why not? He said, you won't value
if you don't pay for it. I said, trust me, man,
I'm at forty bucks a week is a janitor. How
much is this thing? And he said thirty five dollars
to be like you know Twitter Bucks today And I said,
thirty five dollars that's a week's hey, brother, I said,
I can't do that. It goes Okay, we learn on

(06:24):
your own. It'll take you a few decades and maybe
you'll never learn fully up to you and he just
kind of challenged me. And so I made this decision.
I was like, okay, I've been leading already. Like I
hated all the pain that I went through. I hated
the pain that you know, I saw my friends go through.
And so I didn't have any role models of success
in business or life. And I was this little fat kid,

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believe it or not. And so the first thing I
did is I wrote these books and how to lose
weight and get fit. And I did like, all of
a sudden, all these girls are coming to me, and
so all my buddies like, that's how my career started.
I started right, and then all of a sudden now,
but toime home, and I still read all these books,
and I'm and I'm really you know, I took a
reading speed reading classes. I want read a book a day,

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and I didn't do that. But over seven years, I
read seven hundred books. Hear of human development, psychology, physiology,
and what I really tried to do is apply it.
So I went to this seminar. I took a week's
pay and I listened to this this guys talking. I was
like finishing his sentences, and at the end, I said, man,
I want to come work for you, and the guys
like young man. He goes, uh, he goes, well, why
don't you just apply? I said, well, I understand you

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got to go to all your courses and they're like
fift bucks. You know'd be like, you know, ten thousand
dollars today. It's in nineteen seventy seven, and I said,
I don't have the kind of money. I got kicked
out of my house and work as a janitor. I'm
still going to high school. But man, loan me the
money and then I'll succeed and I'll pay the money back.
And then my story man right, And he goes, I'm

(07:47):
not your banker brother. He said, you decide, if you're
the kind of person who wants to survive, you won't
be there. If your person wants to succeed, you'll find
a way to get the money. So I went to
bank after bank after bank. Jeez, I mean it was
just I got so good at no when they're gonna
say no. It's like when I walked in the room, right,
and I looked young anyway, and I'll never forget. I
walked in this room and I see this woman and

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she looked persuadable. It's my fifth bank I've been turned
down by. And I went in and I just convinced
her that I was gonna make this thing happen. And
she's like, well, you see your application, and she goes,
well wait a second. She goes Citrus Avenue. The bank
was on this giant avenue, Citrus seven and goes to
like five cities. It's outside of the east of l A.
And she said, I didn't know there any apartments on Citrus,

(08:29):
So have Annyway so I kind of have a mobile home.
And not just said, you know, I'm sleeping in my
car Denny's or seven eleven, Butter gave you seven eleven
and I talked to the mail man, and you'll let
me come get the mail as long as i'm there
neon each day. And I promise you like freaking out right.
And then she you're seventeen years old, and said, well,

(08:50):
what does that matter? She goes, well, contract requires you
be eighteen right to have a contract. And I said
how I said, I said I could be eighteen soon
and she said I was in it said a week
when now was my first thing. She goes, okay, and
then she does, I don't think the bank's go on
your money, so you send it to A seven eleven
and send you the bill. And I was like, man,
you understand I don't want this money I want. I
don't want it, so I can, you know, fix my

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car going to vacable. I want to change people's lives.
And she laughed the gail off and that was a
good sign. And she finally said listen. She goes, well
that kind of intensity, you're dead serious. She goes, I
think you're gonna do something good. But she said I
wanted to be good, so she said, I'll tell you
what I want to do. She said, I'm gonna talk
to the bank manager and she said, if you swear

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to me that I won't have to come find you
and you pay these on time. She said, I will
coach sign if I have to to get you through.
And a woman changed my life so she didn't have
to do it. They yeah, a lot of us. I
mean it took twelve bucks, which my car was twelve

(09:54):
hundred bucks. And I went to those one weekend, some
of her for twelve hundred bucks. But like you know,
some people there, it was easy. And I met a
guy there named Mike Keys is still one of my
dearest friends forty plus years later, and you know, he
barely had enough money, but he had he let me
stay in his room so I didn't sleep in the car.
And then, you know, thirty years later I went to well,
you know, five years later, three years and I want
to work for Jim Ronda became the top guy in

(10:14):
this company. And then I broke off and started my
own companies and it just grew. But Jeron has is
the guy that had the role who had played on me.
He was like the role model from me. Brother. He
was like, I said, you know, I got four fathers
and we can't afford food. You know, we know, have
food for Thanksgiving? I said, the good men, how come?
And he taught me the most important, one of the

(10:34):
most important lessons in my life. He said, you know, Tony,
we're all equal as souls, but we're not equal in
the marketplace. Both of your brothers have figured out like
I did. You gotta find a way to add more
value to other people. If you do more for other
people and whatever category you wanted than anybody else, and
you keep doing that and you keep improving, sooner or
later you become the dominant force in anything. He said. Look,

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and you go to work for McDonald's. There's nothing wrong
with that. But he said, Tony, there's not a lot
of added value. You can learn the basic job in
twenty minutes. And he said, but you look at this
Heaps Fund guy, and you say, that guy just made
three billion dollars and income and you need You say,
that's so unfair. He said, but he gave at return
instead of a three percent return. That guy literally doubled

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the money as the foundations and individuals, So he's worth it.
You have to work harder on yourself than your job.
You have to become more valuable, and you have to
become completely focused and obsessed on adding value. Had change
my life. Brother, I had a McDonald's job. By the way,
just so you know, Janitor, I got flipped burgers for

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about a week. I was on fries and I made
it to buns and I was like, you know what,
I can't I gotta go figure my life out. And
there's so many things you have as titles like Life
Business Strategies, number one New York's Times best selling author, Entrepreneur, Philanthropists.
And when I hit these things, they just excite me.

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They're they're they're intriguing because I've always been one of
those people. Where we come from, it's like we always
put in the box you can only be one thing.
You can either be a great father, a great brother, uh,
you know, a great student, and and that's that. But
to see you have such a wide range of things
and maintain you know, your integrity about it. And I
know that you have to be um spiritual in some way.

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What I always liked about your your teachings and the
way you went about things. You don't really base it
on religion, Like you kind of is personable. Is there
is there a reason like why you go about it?
That way. Well, I see myself really as a trojan horseman.
It's like always my thought, it's like, um, I give
people what they want, so I get a chance to
get what they need, so they may come to make

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more money. Give them what they want so that I
have the privilege to give them what they need. And
so for example, they might tell to me, you know,
they want to they want to grow their business, they
want to increase their income, they want to move up
in their business, they want to be in a place
where they have a better relationship. They want to lose
fifty pounds. Right. People come for different reasons. And if
what I learned is if I can deliver what they

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want and get what they need. What they need is
a meaningful life. What they need is a life that's
about something more than themselves. You know, markin Luther King
said you know a man or you could say today,
a person who hasn't found something and they're willing to
die for isn't fit to live. It's pretty strong words.
But I really believe in my soul that what changes
people is when you find something to serve more than yourself.
That's where all the energy comes from. That's where the passion.

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Whether that's when everybody else is gone and you keep going,
it's because you know something that's meaningful in your life.
And most of us think we're here to get, but
really what lights us up is giving. So you know
that experience who transforms that. The story you were mentioning was,
I was working through this guy, Jim Rohne. I went
to work for him, and I did really well in
the beginning, and then, you know, like any business, I

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got comfortable, made some mistakes, and I found myself like
completely broke. I'm driving back to this place in Orange County, California,
down the fifty seven freeway. It's men, I'm exhausted. I
don't have any money for food, and I'm like so
frustrated because I was working super hard. But you know,
in a business, if you weren't producing enough, if you don't,
you don't get paid. And so sure enough, I kept saying,

(14:11):
God like, what is this, what's in the way, and
I I pulled it on the side of the road.
I still have today. I kept these hard down journals.
In those days. I wrote a full page that said
the secret to living is giving, and I just I
stepped and cried and I cried because I realized in
the beginning was about giving, but that I was focused
on what I wasn't getting, And then I was letting
when I wasn't getting, getting the way of my ability

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to serve. And so I got my ship together for
a while and started well, and I made some mistakes again,
and then what really finally kicking over the edge was
you know, I'm I'm personally a Christian, but I don't
tell people what to believe spiritual ever. I think whatever
you believe, it should be your gift to do GiB
your personal experience with God, not someone else telling you
how should be done. And it's like, you know the

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old story the four blind men coming up to an
elephant and the metaphors the elephant is God, and one
touches you know, the nostril here, you know, and the
guy is like, oh, describes this is God, and the
other guy gets the tailor like Got's bigger than what
we can describe, probably and just words, right, And so
I don't tell people what to do in that or
what I try to do is be a model of

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someone who's loving and kind to me. If if the
name for God and all the religions the world where
people kill each other because trains that to to love.
You know, no one kill each other, right, And so
for me, what I looked at is a few A
few months later, I know, six months later, I peeked
again and dropped. I moved in this corn At Square
put bachelor apartment in Venice, California, when Venice was really

(15:36):
a terrible place and and I and I went broke.
I mean I literally went broke. I came to the
point where I had, I know, twenty three bucks in
my pocket. I hadn't paid you know, my electric bill,
hadn't paid my rent and I so that morning I
got up and I was like to have to be pragmatics, like, Okay,
I'm gonna go to an all you can eat salad
bar and load up for the winter. I need to

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burn some calories here. And I can't drive my are
it's about three miles. I decided to go to a
really nice area called Marina del Rey. It's on the water,
and there's very familiar. It's one of my So there's
an al Tredo that used to be there right on
the water, and I thought, I'm gonna go sit there
and watch the yachts go by, and think about how
I'm gonna create an amazing life. I'm gonna get inspired

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because I'm so depressed. So I walked in from that far,
like three miles, but I didn't want to spend the
money on parking, so I go in. I'll never get
changed my whole life. I sit down and it was,
you know, taco bar. So I'm loading up carbs. I'm
like loading for the winter. Door opens, and this beautiful
woman walked in. I could not not notice, and so
I waited to see. I was a single man, you know,

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is there a guy whether or not? And sure enough
there was. And he was this little tiny guy who
wearing a three piece suit, was a child. It's obviously
her son. And he held the door for her. And
then I'll never forget he like held up the chair,
and then when he was in conversation, he was like
so with his mom. And I don't know what it was.
I don't know, something from my past or something, but
it just moved me. And so, uh, you know a

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lot of people say, you know, you know, yeah, give
money when you're rich, you'll be great. But I've always
tell people, if you won't give a diame out of
a dollar. You're not gonna give ten million out of
a hundred million, or hun a million out of a billion.
It just doesn't work that way. If you do it now,
your life will change. So you know, at that time,
I'm thinking, I look at this boy, and and so
I go pay the bill, and I don't have like
nineteen dollars and some change left over after pans like

(17:22):
five bucks for the meal, and I have no plan.
And I walked by this kid, and I decided to
introduce myself. I didn't look at the woman. It wasn't
about that. I shook his hand. I said, sir, I said,
I said, you're a class act. I said, I saw
you hold the door for your lady. I saw you
pulled out the chair. I saw you've been right here
with her completely. I said, that's pretty amazing. He goes, well,

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she's my mom. I said, well, that's even more cool.
And I said, taking her lunch like this, that's very
cool of He goes, I'm not taking her lunch and goes,
I don't have a job. You know, I'm nine, right,
And I said, well, Charles, I said, I don't care.
You are taking her lunch and I have any planners.
You reached in my pocket. I took all of me
out in this world nineteen months. Haven't paid my rent,
I haven't paid my electrical and I dumped it all

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in front of this kid and his eyes got really big,
like garbage can't covers. And he looked at me and
he goes, I can't accept that. I said, yes you can.
He said, I'll come. I said, because I'm bigger than
you are. And he laughed. And I didn't even look
at the lady. And I walked out and I swart
of god, jeezy, I you know they're I realized I
didn't have a car out there, right, and I looked
like some stupid white guys skipping along. I was so

(18:27):
like some idiot, right. And I got back home and
I have no money, no food. I went to sleep
in the happiest state ever been in my life. I
woke up the next morning and those days we have
the snail mail, right, not email, and it's all bills, bills, bills,
and there's this little note and I had no idea.
I'm gonna eat today, I'm gonna pay for anything. I mean,
but I'm still happy. I just did it. Was the

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craziest thing. I'd always lived in scarcity, and there was
no scarcity in me. I opened this envelope and it's
from the sky. I loaned a thousand dollars to like
two years before, when I barely have the money, but
I know he needed it. And I've been riding him,
calling him for like four months, and he never turned
my calls and say he wrote this apology letter and
gave me twelve for being so generous with him a

(19:09):
tough time, and that twe enough to take care of
me for a month then, and so I just I
just sat there and cried my eyes out, and I
was like, Okay, Lord, why why is this happening? You know,
I don't know really why, but I decided that that
happened that day because you know, I did what was right.
I didn't do it for attention. I didn't do it
for stars in the chart. I just did what was right.

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And when I had nothing, I gave. And I gotta
tell you, brother, I haven't had a day since that time.
In my life. I've had rough times. I've got seventy
four companies, and in the early days I almost went
bankrupt with several I fortunately didn't go bankrupt, but almost.
And I found the way to turn things around. But
I never went back to that place of living in Scarcy.
I always tell people, you don't get me on scares,
so you gotta start me on it. It's something you

(19:51):
do inside your head, inside your heart, and you do
it by action. You don't do it by words. You know,
to buy reading stuff. So for me not to cut
you off, I loved that twelve twelve hundred dollars almost
for you to go to the seminar and then you
had twelve hundred dollars that you got the change and

(20:13):
put your life back on track. You know, So you
got You gotta many people I never know, definitely. And
my magic, my magic numbers thirty five hundred dollars. So
my mother, when you asked my mom story, my mother,
she um, we was we was living in this trailer.

(20:37):
It was about you know, it's is a one bedroom
trailer is out on this this country road. Uh. The
trailer was thirty five hundred dollars. I'll never forget. And
I went out and I hustled this money up for
months and months. And I had a choice because at
that time I was kind of hanging out, going to
clubs and being with my friends, and I was slight

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man like it would just make me feel that much
better to know my mother can have a good night's sleep.
And keep in mind, this is only thirty five hundred
dollars um and I gave it to my mom to
pay a trail off, and she paid it off, and
I just never and I never forget that feeling, because
you know, I didn't do all the right things to
get the money, but I used the money for the
right things. And I remember that was one of the

(21:22):
points where I knew what my cause was and and
to to help people no matter what. And that sent
me on my road to being the man I am
today because I always put people first. And I didn't
realize it at the time, but it's just like I
just had this thing called empathy, and I think that's
what you know, we have in common. And when I

(21:44):
watched you speak and I watch the things you do,
I'm like, he's he empathizes with people, like he sees
where he can add value to people. And it's just
like myself, Like that twelve hundred, When you say twelve hundred,
that's so significant because when I think about thirty days,
I'm going, like, man, that that money changed my life.
Like I gave that money to my mother, um, and

(22:06):
and that was the first home I bought her, and
actually after that, I bought her several more homes. But
I just remember myself saying, you know, I gotta make
sure my mom's good first, and then I just kind
of spired over into other people in my family and
even friends, you know, even friends and even this, even
this Tony, Like, to me, this is so real because
like I said, I love you know what you bring,

(22:27):
and I love how you add value to people. And
and just to be able to give my culture this
and left them hear from somebody who had because we
all think our struggle was real. Like I thought my yeah,
I thought my struggle was real until I went to Jamaica,
and I thought my struggle was real in time went
to Africa, and I'm like, yo, it's people really in
this world that are living in you know, ten houses
and in the streets and watching watching their clothes and

(22:50):
sewer water, and you think your story is so real.
So just to hear somebody else's perspective and and see
where they come from, my thing is like, how do
you find inner peace and inspiration, imbalance and all these
things that are going on in the world today. Well,
I think, first of all, I want to just come
in what you just said because it's so true. If
there's one thing missing today in our country, it's compassion.

(23:14):
I mean, the only only good thing that you can
call it good. Nothing's good out of it. But George
Floyd is seeing people of all colors, all races, all
areas come together in tier together. You know, you can
just feel when it's real right. It's not it's not positioning,
it's not like right and check to somebody, try and
cover your ass. It's just like people really feeling. That's
the only good that I can see has come out

(23:34):
of that situation. And hopefully more good is going to
come out of it now. But we need that kind
of compassion. But to me, the way that you find
pieces like it's putting things in perspective's exactly what you
just said. You know, I go to hunt last year,
not this year because they shed it really down. But
I went to a hundred and sixteen countries last year, right,
und sixteen cities, sixteen countries, some two or three times,

(23:57):
and so that's a typical year for me. I see
a quarter of a million people, and so the I
get so much feedback because I've been doing this for
forty three years with you know, hundreds of millions of people.
That's like I can't walk down the street very much.
I'm sure like you. But people come up to me
and saying, you change my life. It's the number one
thing they say. I was wresting you, I was gotten.
You change your life when I'm glad I got health, right,

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that's what I get, That's what I How can you
ever be down or depressed when you feel like the
life made a difference. I can wake up with you
that now. But then the other part, though, is having
a daily set of rituals to keep your head straight
because like you know, like COVID right, like I care
at a level no bullshit. I mean, you send who
I am or you would have called me out of here.

(24:39):
But it's like you can't fake that for twelve fourteen
hours a day, four or five, six, seven days in
a row with an audience a ten a fifteen thousand
people that would normally not sit for a three hour movie, right,
or you know, maybe a three hour concert at best,
and I'm gonna take them twelve fourteen hours a day
and have them love it for three or four or
five or six or seven days. You can't do that.
You can't think you have to give so much that

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everybody there gets that you're truly there to serve them.
You're not there for any purpose but to serve them.
So in order to do that, though, you're gotta keep
your own heads straight. So like when COVID happened, I
give you a perfect example. It's like, I'm human, man.
I was like, are you kidding? Somebody called me up
and said, like, three days in the beginning of March,
I was doing a big event in San Francisco for
you know, twelve thousand and five people, and that's gonna

(25:23):
be incredible four days and nights, you know, And somebody
called me up and says, aren't you gonna cancel it?
And what are you talking about? Last year, I had
mercury poisoning and they put me in a hospital, I
lost a quarter in my blood supply, and I got
back on stage in a wheelchair a day later to
finish the damn event. And that's how committed I am. Right,
And I said there's no way. And then you know,
the government canceled us in San Francisco and then in Moscow,

(25:45):
and then in London, and then in Amsterdam and then
in Sydney, Australia, and I'm like, I need a give
right now, but people need this and I'm stuck it.
So it's like, okay, we'll move locations. That didn't work.
Every everything city or state kept shutting down. And then
it was like, okay, I'm gonna do this in movie
theaters years ago I do it. I'll do like a
hundred movie theaters with you know, five hundred people, six

(26:06):
hundred people in each, and do a small one five
thousand people. And then they shut movie theaters down. And
then I'm gonna do I have a uh, you know,
a virtual reality company. I just sold the Apple and
I was like, I'll use our virtual reality. But the
battery power couldn't do twelve hours a day, you know.
And I said, the one thing I'll never do, I'm
never gonna do this in people's homes, whether they don't
get the crowd, they don't get you know, imagine going
to a concert and it's in your home instead of

(26:26):
surrounded by tens of thousands of people. But I got
there's no choice, and so I went to these stages
and I want to acknowledge them for the people at
home or listening. Man. We all when we go through loss,
whether it's death, loss of a job, loss and the opportunity,
loss of a relationship, we all go through stages. And
some people get stuck in a stage. And that's why
their pain or their hurt or their sadness and the

(26:48):
depression or their rage keeps growing. And so the first
one is shocked when they tell me this is like
a death, like, what are you talking about? You're gonna
cancel make what I do for a living illegal, as
I only do to ten people. I mean, that's not
who I amen. And then it's after the shock, this
is impossible. Then there's usually frustration or anger like how
could this happen? This is just nuts. We're gonna lock

(27:08):
up two thirds of the planet, you know, and tell
them to stay at home. It's never happened in history,
healthy people staying, oh, this is the nuts. And then
and then then then you go to bargaining right like okay,
well you know, God, if I do this, will you
do that? Or bargaining business people, and then gradually you
eventually have to get to a point where you accept things.

(27:28):
Not you accept it's right or it's fair, or it's
just you just accept that it's there. And acceptance is
usually how people complete that feeling of sadness or hurt
or loss. But I say, there's a new step you need,
you need now create. And so for me, this whole
experience came down to me saying there's gonna be a
way to do in people' sothing. So here's what I did.

(27:48):
I looked around for new references. I try to get
around where it's better. And I said, I'm not doing
some freaking grandpa's webinar. I gotta make this like a
live event, like going like it's like you know, you know,
it's people like pat Riley if you're familiar, or you know,
one of the owners of Climbing Pass for thirty years.
And that came first time the game to videgoes Tony,

(28:09):
this is like the seventh game an NBA championship, but
it's not two or three hours, it's like twelve, you know.
And so I'm gonna create that. So I sat down
with this group and I laid it down. I go
here's what I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do this
in a different way. And I said, we're gonna do
forte ceilings and go by building. I'm gonna six ft
high by fifty ft wide degree retina screens like your iPhone,
and do another hand degrees behind me. And I'm gonna

(28:31):
call the guys at Zoom. I'm gonna hire six companies
and integrated. I'm gonna do this in nine weeks. They
told me to take nine months. I said, in nine weeks,
we're gonna do an event for thirty thousand people around
the world. First I did one for three for seven
days for four thousand people. I'm gonna do that again,
by the way, in January, I'm gonna do it for
a million people. Anybody who wants to watch all give
me an address and then come for seven days and

(28:51):
atten virtually. But I built this place so that now
I got zoomed to go from a thousand to ten thousand,
twenty thousand, thirty thousand, so I'm able to literally to
wrap in people's homes and it's so intimate you see
them with their children. And I took this hormful experience
and now you know, honestly, I lost almost a hundred

(29:12):
million dollars this last year in business. But fortunately I'm
doing all right. But I found in spite of all that,
how to deliver for people. And now that business is
growing again because I figured out how to pivot. I
figured how to change things. But that's because I didn't
just stay pissed, didn't stay just negotiating. I didn't just
settle for acceptances like create. If there's anything I'm about,

(29:34):
I think you are too. It's about creating. We create emotions,
new experiences. That's what makes life rich. The word the
word um if I could use any word for this pandemic.
It's made me become more innovative. Yes, it makes you think.
That's why we're here. Like I'm just like you. I
have to reach more people. I have to understand how

(29:57):
to do things that are outside. I had to get
comfortable with being uncomfortable. I had to I had to
find other outlets because even for me being a touring artist,
being a performers, so many other things that I want
to do. Uh, And this gave me time to do it.
And it also gave me time to have insight. Like
I listened to yourself, John Maxwell, He's different people every
day and I'm just like, how you putting connecting these

(30:17):
dots and and I'm watching it with the culture as well.
A lot of a lot of us are doing things
that we've never done before, all because we have the
time and we're able to put our minds to it.
But that concept you're talking about, I mean, I'm just
want to be the first artist to go ahead and
say if I can talk to you about on the
sidebar about using that for some type of Yeah, I do,

(30:45):
I do of mine in Freend of Money. He came
by about two weeks ago. He's come by tomorrow because
we're gonna do something, Braham. He wants to do it
so we can see everybody because he and he watched around. Yes, yes,
I definitely want that. I definitely want to be a
part of that. So we'll talk together. Um. So, so

(31:06):
with all these things going on, like what what haven't
you achieved? Did you want to achieve? Because for myself,
I want to, you know, create more value at all times,
and then I also want to break the molde Like
for myself, it's like just coming from where I came from.
I just think our our cookie cutter mode is okay,
you you become successful. You you you're successful, you become rich,

(31:29):
and you become famous, and then you do all these
other things that are inside the box. My things are always,
you know, push the envelope. My things that always do
things that um inspire me, but more so you know
that give other people inspiration. And it's not easy sometime
because you know, like you said, when you're doing these things,
everybody is not gonna believe. Because I remember standing on

(31:51):
the block, you know, in my neighborhood growing up, and
I was like, yeah, I'm really gonna be something. I'm
really gonna and they would look at me be like
you're crazy. I'm like, I'm really gonna live here and
I'm gonna do this and I'm gonna I'm gonna achieve this,
and it was just like, there's no way you can
do it. And when I go back home to visit
and I see these same faces and they just look
at me like in disbelief, like I just can't believe

(32:12):
you did all the things that you said you was
gonna do. And every morning I get up, I still
have that same mindset, Like I still have that same
mindset to keep achieving, not for the uh, the accoladies
that come with with more so for myself because that's
who I am. And it was a point in my
life where I really realized when I was speaking with
my auntie and she always told me I was street smart,

(32:34):
and I used to be like, okay, and what does
that mean? But then I just started seeing things happen
um as I went on a life like say, be
times where all the odds were against me. You know,
I go through my emotions and I feel the way
I feel, and you know, I don't play the victim,
but I go through my emotions and and I'm like,
you know what, I could do this, And it's like

(32:54):
it's like a It's like a muscle once you exercise
it and you get it healthy, and it's just like
now I don't even ask why me no more? I
like try me. You know. With life, it's just like
whatever you got, I'm gonna take it because I've been
through the worst. And my thing is like how do
you keep that mindset? Like how do you how do
you like right now with all these companies you've got
going on, all these things, and and one would say,

(33:17):
give me two of the companies and I'm and I'm good.
I mean, by the way, and I didn't lose a
hundred million dollars in the pandemic, So I feel for
your brother, Like I'm like, you know what I'm saying, Like, damn,
I'm not I'm not from I'm not complained. I but
I'm like, whoa, it's a long way from the Ford McDonald's.
And you know what I committed this year, This is

(33:39):
my biggest year of contribution. I committed twenty five million
dollars because I do. Uh, you know, you asked me
some things that I have not completed. Like I decided
that I wanted to feed a billion people in ten years.
I decided that five and a half years ago. How
do you keep up with those numbers? Well? What it is?
It started like I was writing this book and it's
like it was a financial book. It's like, I'm lucky
enough to not need the money from this book. Let

(34:01):
me donate all this money in the book. And I
was fed, and I've already done feeding programs, and I'm like,
what if I fed? How many people have fed in
my life? And this was eight years ago, it's not
six years ago. And I've had found out I've fed
forty two million people. I was really proud of me,
Like what if I fied that Milly in a year?
And I was like, what if I fled a hundred million?
That was what if I fled a billion people? Because
I think what happens for most people. They don't get

(34:21):
goals that are big enough to excite them, or they
make them so big that it seems impossible. At this
stage of my life, a billion meals something I was
to get my mind to grow to. And now you know,
we're five and a half years and what should hit
seven hundred million meals by the end of this year.
So I'm gonna we're gonna do it less than ten years.
But this same year I committed millions, so ten million
of those guys because there's so many people about food

(34:42):
right now that they're hurting more than usual. So I
doubled up there here. But I do a hundred million
people meals a year every year, and then I'm working
on a project to feed a billion people sustainably. I've
gone on missions to help save kids that are being
trafficked and they you know, some of these kids are
six seven years old old, like just literally at my house.
Um a week ago, I started this group called Underground

(35:04):
Railroad and they're all people that they're former CIA, FBI
Sealed Team six guys, and they've given up their jobs,
gone private and they're going all over the world and
busting these pedophiles and helping local governments forgot to do it.
So they were just been Haiti. They rescued these eleven
girls in Venezuela, who you know, they got socialism there,
so they got recruited to go to the Dominican Republic,

(35:26):
supposedly working hotels. They drugged them, took them to Haiti,
stripped them, raped them, and then daily tied to a
bed doing this. So we freed them. And I've been
on these trips, so I said, I want to free people.
This was just the next ten and then the guy
who was supposed to have the plane the police that
were corrupted trying to get our guys and the girls back.
So I sent my plane in the first place these

(35:47):
girls landed, first time they had freedom. These are college
kids from Venezuela, all of them, the eleven of them
told I guess and came here for their first moments
of freedom. So that kind of stuff just like juices me.
So they yeah, they came here to meet me first,
and then we sent them to Washington seat and then
we center to Utah and we're bringing their kids back

(36:08):
into the country. But so you know, I went to India.
I see kids dying of water born disease is so
easy to salce. And now I provide a quarter million
people a day with fresh water. So all these things,
It's like, I got to a stage of my life
and brother, you probably will too where it's like ship,
I've I've gone beyond it all. It's not about getting.
It's like Jim Rowne used to teach me, Tony, it's

(36:30):
not what you get that's gonna make you happy. Who
you become that's gonna make you really happy or really sad.
So I was like, really, Apple, I've become, But like,
what else do I reach for? And then I started saying,
I'm gonna do these huge goals. I'm gonna you know,
I'm worried about the environment. I'm planning a hundred million trees.
I've planted seventy million now and I'm gonna get to
land a million. So I have all these goals to
push me so it's hard not to be inspired when

(36:50):
you're constantly learning and growing just like you are. Right,
I got so many dear friends around the world who
say I'm their coach, but I'm not dumb enough to
just coach them. I'm learning from them. And then on
how up in all these people, and I'm getting a feedback,
and I got my own family, and then I'm a athlete,
and so all those things combined. But what I do
believe in everybody needs a daily practice because in the
middle of all this crazy stuff, I had to get

(37:12):
my own head together, obviously, and you need to do
some things that will keep you there. So one of
things I do every single day, you know, I pray
and I meditate. But I never was a meditating but
I built this way of meditating. It's not about trying
to make your mind not think of anything. And if
any of your anyone your listeners of viewers want to
go there, they can go to Tony Robams dot com
forwards Last Priming and there's a video and they'll take

(37:33):
them through it. It's just ten minutes a day. If
you don't got ten minutes for yourself, you don't have
a life. And all it is is training your brain
to wire itself for gratitude, for contribution, and for action.
In other words, most people have a highway to stress
in a dirt road to happiness. Like literally, whatever pathway
you go on in your brain over and over again,

(37:54):
you get wired. You're wired to be piste off or
wired to be worried, but you can wire yourself for
passionate or growth or contribution or playfulness or whatever you
want to do. And so every morning I get up
and I do this ten minute process, and it's like
three minutes of these things that I'm grateful for that
I think and see and feel. Because gratitude, as corny
as it sounds, it destroys the two things that f

(38:15):
up everybody's life, fear and anger. You can't be grateful
and angry simultaneously, it's the solution. And you can't be
fearful and grateful simultaneously. They totally and And so now
your brain gets wired to be gratefully, wired to appreciate
people and things in life. Because because I have a
daily practice, I don't wake up saying, oh my god,

(38:36):
what a perfect day. I'm doing a seminar this weekend
in my stadium in my Zoom stadium, and it's for Europe,
so I have to get up at one am. I
usually go to bed at four or five. I'm a
night person, and I gotta be on stage by four
am and then go from four am to six pm,
and then come back and go to bed again at
eight or nine and do it again for four days
in a row. So you better be inspired, you better

(38:58):
have a system. So I do this attitude, then I
do this creation process, and in ten minutes, my nervous
system is ready to rock and roll. And it's not
fake and phony. It's not a pump up. It's the
real thing. I also believe every day you gotta do
something to push yourself. In fact, let me give you
a real fast I'll give you five quick things that
I did when I was chased out of my house

(39:19):
with the knife, and then I did during COVID. I
went right back to with the night by your mom.
That's right, you know, I told you. I sleep on
the mountain and I'm in this person's you know, washroom
and im and I'm feeling bad and I'm trying to
figure out what to do. And it's Christmas time. Was
Christmas seven, which chased me out, so it's pretty rough time.

(39:39):
And so I took a little bit of cash out
of my pocket again fifteen eighteen bucks in those days,
and I got on the bus and I went to
this bookstore and I bought a book called The Magic
of Believing by Claude in Bristol, and it was all
about how to program your mind. And then that started me. Man.
I just consuming book after book after book. And then
I started doing audio tapes. And I'm old enough remember
when there was know YouTube and you gotta buy this

(40:01):
ship and it was like six casts was three hundred
bucks with a little workbook, and I take four weeks
of five weeks of pay and go down and listen
and immerse my mind and by feeding it, so I
believe you should be five things every day. One you
gotta feed and strengthen your mind in the middle of COVID. Baby,
this has the time to do it. You're doing it
right now, right, that's what you're doing. You're like and
and it's so easy today because it's all over the

(40:23):
web and it doesn't even costume and you've got six
so you gotta but you gotta not feed it with
what comes to your phone. You know, we're not talking
about clickbait here. We're talking about a book that's gonna
cheat your philosophy or strategy, or a skill that's gonna
make you better, stronger, or let you help other people.
That's what's gonna change your life. And so Jim Rone
used to say to me, said, Tony, every day you

(40:44):
gotta stand guard at the door of your mind. That's
what do you mean. I'll never forget. He paused for
a moment. He said, listen. He said, what happens if
your worst enemy drop sugar in your coffee? Nothing? I
get sweet coffee. He says, what happens you if your
best and your mom, your dad, a friend, family member,
by accident drops one drop a strict nine in your coffee.

(41:04):
I said, I'll be dead because that's right, lifeless sugar
and strict nine. So what's your coffee? Because the bash
comes in if you're not there, right, He goes, You
gotta you gotta pay attention. You gotta drill it. And
he said, and the way to do that also is
read thirty minutes a day. Missing meal, don't miss reading
thirty minutes. And I'm old enough. I used to go
to the literally to the library to do this and
read autobiographies, because as you read someone else's word, especially

(41:28):
in autobiography where they wrote it, you think their thoughts.
Do you think their thoughts, you start changing the way
you are. I mean, we all know thoughts lead to emotions,
emotions that will lead to action or lack their out.
And so that's the first thing. Feed and strength in
your mind. You gotta challenge it. Second, you gotta feed
and strinth in your body every day. I mean, if
you don't do that, the mind and body are together.
It's like if you ever feel fear, and that's what

(41:49):
stops people, all right, we all know it. You're a failure.
Fear of rejection, if you're not looking good at all,
the fears right, if you're getting hurt. But the trickler
matter is fear is physical, Like you know, if you're
really fear, if you can hear it in your throat
or your gut. Right. But courage and courage doesn't mean
there's no fear. It doesn't take courage if you're not afraid.
If you're the only way you get courages, you're afraid

(42:11):
and you do it anyway. That's what courage is. And
it's a habit, and so you learn to train your
body do that. So I go on a sprint, or
I go lift some weights, or I and all my homes,
unfortunately multiple homes around the world. Because I travel so much,
I have these cold plunges. And today I'm here in
Palm Beach, Florida. It was starving, the wind was going
sideways with rain, and I go out there in the

(42:32):
first hant in the morning is jumping fifty six degree water.
And I don't do that because I like it. I
do it. Number you call it cold, cold, cold plunge. Yeah,
I'd take I'd take coach house, by the way. That's much.
That's a good one. Could you explain, just because because
I want them to hear why you take these cold
splurges in these coach howers. I want to understand. The reason.

(42:55):
I first is it moves loves the blood through every
organ in your body. Because you are or every you
know that the pure temperature change shoot your limbs. So
it's incredibly valuable for help. But the main reason I
do it is not just that. The main reason is
to train my brain. When I say go, we go,
I never walk up and go I'm cold. Maybe in
a minute, let me make thirty seconds, let me go tomorrow.

(43:17):
That happened in negotiating yourself is why most people failed
to achieve their dreams. So I train my brain. You jump,
you jump, and I do it every morning. It's the
first thing. And there's never been a morning I was like,
I can't wait to jump in that freezing water. Never,
So that one of the mistakes people make is they
go like, I don't feel strong enough. You had, I
don't feel good. Screw that ship. Yeah, don't you feel
do it? You keep doing it and then you'll feel it.

(43:42):
You don't wait till you feel it. Do you wait
to feel it? You mean, never feel that way, right,
But if you do it, that changes the game. So
I have these daily disciplines. Third thing, real fast is
you got to find yourself a great role model. And
today you may not have access them directly. Because of
the web. You can study anybody you want to study.
They got blogs, they got backgrounds, they got videos. Right,

(44:03):
So in those days it was harder, but I would
study people, and so I grew up so poor. I
saw I was never gonna have that happen in my family,
and I wanted to not just take care of my family,
but what I'm doing today take care of families all
in the world. And so there was my burning desire.
So I got to figure this out. So I looked
around at saucer. John Templeton was this man who started
with nothing. He was no sir, came the richest, you know,

(44:25):
a first billionaire investor, international investor, and he made money
when things were the worst, like right now. His whole thing,
would you make all your money at times of maximum pessimism.
When things are going great, people think it's gonna go
great forever, and if you try to buy their stock
or their home, they want more than it's worth. But
when things are going bad, they think it's gonna go
bad forever, and they'll sell it to you really cheap.

(44:46):
And so he could give a billionaire by investing twenty
thous dollars in the stock market in nine nine when
Hitler was taking over the world and everybody's scared. Five
years later the markets jumped. Within ten years, he was
a billionaire. So I studied him and eventually, believe it
or not, I was thirty nine. I interviewed him, and
I interviewed in three weeks before he died in two
thousand and eight. So he became a role mong for me.

(45:07):
Not a perfect role mong, no one's perfect, but he
showed me pathways to do well. Fourth gonna wrap this
up is you gotta take massive action. People wait till
they have a perfect plan. You gotta try something and
then iterate, iterate, try something else if it doesn't work. Change.
It's like always say to people, how long would you
give your average kid to learn how to walk before
you shut him off? And what, dude, you're not a walker? Right?

(45:28):
You go, you crazy? My kid's gonna keep trying until
they get there, right, And so you you you take action,
keep changing and then find me give more than you
expect to receive. Like when you have nothing, is the
time to go get go work, Go give you your broke,
go to the homeless shelter and go take a lunch
or two in a week and go feed some people, because,
like you said, brother, what it does. It's like I

(45:49):
hear so many people say America such a crappy place.
They haven't been anywhere else. You know, less than fifteen
percent of Americans even have a passport, so they don't
know what It's like all they hear is what they
hear media, the news or at school. But you travel
this world and you really start to appreciate what you have.
And if even within this country, if you go help
somebody that's worse off than you are, suddenly your brain

(46:10):
realizes you're lucky and it kicks you in a gear
and gives you momentum. So those are five little keys
that I do on ongoing basis in my life to
just keep getting better and better and better. Well, had
I had three, I had three? Or oh so so
I'm close. Help me your three. Um, I definitely help
where I can about you. I help, I help, I

(46:31):
help more, and I just you know, my grandmother she
raised me, so it was always do one to others
as you want to be done. But I just found myself, um,
always going out of my way and by the way,
isn't that? Isn't that the beautiful part of religion. Religion
can be used to manipulate, and you know people are
going to manipulate whatever. People are gonna kill people over
the name religion. But it's core. All religions are really

(46:54):
about love my brother like myself, right, That's all we did.
The game changes, right, that's all that you really needed.
And your mom slow, I saw you did the choice
for tots in the hood piece. Yeah. Yes, I have
Street Dreams Foundation, which I have inner city kids. I've
had it h for maybe fifteen years now, and it
started before I started music. It started when when I

(47:17):
was in the neighborhood and I used to tell the
guys out there, like, you know, man, you guys are
hanging out late, making noise. You know, all kind of
uh things are going on these kids and see, and
I'm just like, you know, we're making money, So why
don't you give me five hundred, You give me a thousand,
you give me this, you give me that. And what
I did was took all the money and uh when
it got the local gymnasium and when it bought all

(47:38):
these toys and you hauls and then called all the
parents and have them bring the kids through and grab
like bikes and toys and all that stuff. And also
it's taught it's off the neighborhood because you know one
thing about where we're from. If you're in the position
of power, you you consider the leader in in some sense.
And I think that just showing these individuals that you

(47:59):
can use your the ship in different ways. To me,
was you know, empowering for myself because these are things
that my grandmother taught me that I was able to
teach to the people that we're teaching me things in
the streets. But I'm like, but you know you can
still be this is your this is your ecosystem. You
have to be good to these people because they're gonna
protect you and they're gonna mix sure you straight and
we all know how the game goes, but you know

(48:20):
these are people and we have to take care of them. Listen, man,
I like to donate five bikes for Christmas for you.
I love it. I love it. That's what I'm talking.
Here's my request. Use it as matching funds. Brother, So
can you tell me offline here? Just let me know
what the cost is. I'll do myself, but matching funds.

(48:40):
Everything I try to do, I try to double it up.
So I'll still give you the money regardless. But if
you can go to your group and say I gotta
I got someone who's well, if we do a hundred,
he'll match, I'll give you the fardless, but let's do
that together. I certainly appreciate in in in the in
the city kids will too. So how do you continue?
You But I want to hear one of my things.

(49:01):
I can interrupt you one of the other two that yeah, yeah,
so one is giving back, two is overcoming fear. One
thing that I learned, um, and I've been taking these
colch hours later, and it was the craziest thing ever
because I'm just like holding and I just got so
good at it. But coming up, I would always like
put myself in positions where there was no retreat. It's

(49:23):
almost like you burn you burn the bridge, you burn
the boat, and you can't go back. You have to
take the island. And yeah. So and I always put
myself in those positions. And I'm a thinker, so so
I think my way through things. I think, you know,
what's the next step, what do I do if this
goes left? And I just kind of put fear to
the back burner because I always understood that, you know,

(49:46):
I don't make good decisions and fear just a feeling.
So you don't make good decisions. Um, when you let
your mind controct, because it's like when you let fear
control you, is you're letting outside things outside of your
body control the way that you're you know, thinking of maneuvering.
And I learned early not to do so, and to
be honest with you, Tony, and kept me out of

(50:08):
a lot of bad situations and kept me alive and
and and kept me from, you know, even giving up
on myself at times where I knew that, you know,
this might not work out for me, but I stay
strong and I stay solid, and I kept it pushing
that that you and I are, so you're not so aligned.
It silly. And it's like I always tell people, decision
made from fear is always the wrong decision, always always,

(50:30):
And you know, it's not everybody's fault. Like, it's not
like we're not courageous because all that have something that'll
trigger us, right, I don't care how strong you are,
but it's what you do when you get triggered that
really matters. Man. It's like you all have a two
million year old brain. That's how old this thing is,
and it's been It's not wired to make you happy,
it's wired to make you survive. So it's always looking
for what could go wrong so you can fight it

(50:50):
or flight from it or freeze and so that's wired
in us. But we used to be wired so that,
you know, we could deal with a saber tooth said that, yeah,
that way social media or how much money we have
and all that bullshit. It's not truly survival in those situations,
but our emotions respond that way. And when you learn
the carker that, brother, that's why you are who you aren't. Yes,

(51:13):
you know, coming from where we come from, we didn't
know about morning routines and rituals and things to get
you on balance. Yeah, so once I once I figured
my morning routine out and understand that, I read this
book it's called America Morning, and it really, um, it
really took it to another level for me. But I
always had a morning routine and I get up, I

(51:33):
would think I would write things out. And this is
as a youngster, and as I got older, I just
started to see how that actually helped me and put
me um in a position. And even like, because my
grandmother raised me a certain way and I was grateful
for a lot of things, and I understood how to
respect people. Even though you know, I was rough around
the edges, I was able to get into a lot
of different rooms and get different perspectives on life. So

(51:56):
I was able to sit into rooms where you know,
people like myself, meaning like just coming straight from the streets.
We wouldn't typically invited in those rooms. But my mannerism
was so good and I understood how to deal with
people that they would volunteer information and then I would
take that information and put it either in my music
or tell it to my peers or my friends. Which

(52:17):
was why I was able to write the first Recession
Um because I was in those rooms. I was actually
sitting around different politicians, different city officials, just different lawyers
and people in the city that made things happen. And
I was just like I heard the word recessing, and
I'm like, Okay, what is this? And then when I
put it, and a lot of people don't even know
what the word recessing meant, and I had to go
make it make sense and um and and and here

(52:39):
we are again. But I learned to be grateful for
for for who I am, because I know that if
if if God didn't want me to be here, he
wouldn't have gave me the opportunities and the chances that
I had. Because it's been so many times where it
could have been overtoning, like you know, I don't. I
don't know when you heard about me, because I know
when I heard about you. But you probably wouldn't have
heard about me if these things would have happened. And

(53:02):
but I'm here and I get up every morning, and
I'm just grateful for that, you know, I'm humble for
did I have a chance to be great every morning.
I have a chance to do better than idea yesterday.
And I have all my limbs, and I have people
around me, and people actually care about what I have
to say. Without gratitude, Man, you could be worth a
billion dollars. I did fifty billionaires, uh, you know, start

(53:26):
within fifty finely, all self made, right, nobody from the
Lucky Sperm club. And it's like Doug in their brains
to figure out what they do. I really learned a lot,
and I became good friends with a lot of them,
like Great Dalio and Walter Jones have been a friend
for twenty five years. Some of the top financial traders
in the history of the world. Right. But you know,
it's interesting, out of the fifty, there's probably five that
are happy. And it's don't matter how much money they got. Man,

(53:50):
because I say, money doesn't change you, it makes you
more of what you are. If you're mean, you've got
more to be mean with. If you're loving, I'm more
loving with and and some of these people are so
incredible success in achievement, but they're not successful inside. And
so my whole goal was to make sure that you
have both and you got that, but huge role obviously
with your grandma. I'm sorry to ask. I'm sorry for
my ignorance and no, no, she passed, but but she

(54:14):
left me um with a lot like she and she
didn't never you know, it's crazy. She used to tell
me all the time. She's like, boy, you're gonna go
to jail, and you're gonna be in jail and this,
that and the other. And I swear to you everything
that she told me, I was going to jail about
change my life, all the hard times I've been through,
all the risk that I took, and I just remember

(54:36):
her saying that, Like I was like, I can't let
my grandmother down. So everything that I learned, I have
to take it and make it a positive, have to
take it and make it a plus. And even though
I came into game, you know, just on a a
page of you know, just ignorance and a lot of
different things, because I was coming from a place, you know,
as as a as a black man, when you felt

(54:57):
like it was just you against the world. And then
you get there and you're like, oh, hold on, people
actually care what I got to say. And I have
some good stuff in me too, so let me just
start sprinkling that. And as I got better with that,
I just feel like I'm making her proud every day
because she didn't get a chance to see and everything
that she thought was gonna get me in trouble actually
saved my life. Because if I didn't have this, I
wouldn't have a story. I couldn't even tell people about

(55:21):
any hard times, uh, anything they went through. But what
I want to ask you was, how do you because
I know what I'm working on and and and it
goes through evolution for me just to um keep evolving
and evolving my message, But how do you continue to
just reiterate your your your message and keep it going
after all these years. It's because you know, there's never

(55:41):
not a new challenge. It's like, you know, I work
in a hundred countries and I see everything. You know,
somebody stands up in the middle events. I don't know
if any of your viewers have ever seen that. There's
a Netflix documentary called Tony Robbins. I'm not your girul,
because that's not what I mean. Yes, yes, and you
know I even lost the suicide and knock on Wood
and you know, thirty by forty years year and never
lost one. And I've done thousands and we've been follow

(56:03):
up years later. And that film is another example, like
four suicides. You know it's been five years, you fall
back and see where things are. But the capacity to
know how to create and the capacity to deal with
new challenges is what makes it happen. Like you're looking
at the culture right now and you're saying, how do
I bring my music to help people? Right? That's you're
You're an inspiring You're not just writing music, right, music

(56:25):
it gives you a you know, I always saying, motive
does matter. If you're motive, just take care of yourself.
There's nothing wrong with that because you're part of life
and life supports life, so it's gonna give you insights.
I got married when I was twenty four to a
woman twelve years my senior been married twice before me
kids from both husbands. I adopted them as my own.
So you gotta imagine this, Jeezy, I'm twenty four and

(56:46):
I got a seventeen year old son and eleven year
old five year old. Yeah, at that time, it's like crazy. Man.
I'm sixty now and I got a fifty free year
old son in a forty three year old son, and
you know so, but what that did is it make
me had to grow in a different way, Like to
help these kids and all these stages, I grew in

(57:08):
a different way. It's like, if your goal is to help,
you know your community, you're gonna give a different level
of insight. If your whole, if you're trying to help
humanity and it's not bullshit, it's not what you tell
the people your soul, you know what's true, then you're
gonna get a different level of insight. So I've had
these experiences over the years where I'm standing on stage
and somebody stands up and they're suicidal. They're gonna they've
tried twice and they got the pill and they're gonna

(57:29):
do it now. I gotta do it right now, or
then I got a guy that you know, made a
half a billion dollars and he's depressed because you know board,
you know, and then you got a couple that wants
to kill each other. And so how could I not
grow when I'm stepping in the middle of insanity all
the time, and every time it's different, right, So it's
like a piece of art, you know. So I don't

(57:49):
need to be inspired that way. And then the other
thing is, I'm just inspired by people like yourself. The
reason I want to do this is, you know, I
made it the same stuff. I was white trash and
no one's gonna listen to me or no more for food.
But it's like overcome that, not by being an egotistical asshole,
but by like learning and growing and serving. And if
you keep learning, growing, serving and you serve more and more,
you build a brand. You build a brand, you have

(58:10):
no difficulty having impact in the world we are today,
especially with social media where now you can spread your
message around the world. So I'm so happy you're doing
these podcasts now, and I'm gratefully let me be part
of this. First learn, learning, living, and serving. You got
a brother, okay in there, and some growing and some givings,
so passionate gracious and really generous giving as well as

(58:32):
what really makes it all work. I remember hearing this
story that that I was so intrigued by. It was
saying that this guy went to this this um event.
He went to a seminar and he was there and
he said, um, he was there for about twenty minutes.
Somebody told him about it. He should have been there.
He was just like, all right, I'm gonna check it out.

(58:52):
And he said he went and he got there, he
started feeling uncomfortable. He wanted to leave, and he said
he was talking to individuals, uh called guy taller than
him and he's like, hey, man, no, Tony's coming on.
He's gonna be great. Man. He's gonna be worth your
time and you should stay and and you should, uh,
you know, just check this out. And he said he

(59:13):
wanted to leave, and he thought about it, and he said,
you know what our stay since you said so, and um,
he said, Tony would be on in a minute, and
he said he went to the stage and sat down,
and when it came on, it was you and you
was Tony and you had told the stay. It wasn't
very famous at that time. Actually, the day I was
twenty four years old, and it was the day my

(59:33):
first book, Unlimited Power came out, so a few people
knew who I was. And his name is Joseph mcclennen.
He's my dear friend of this day. In fact, he
speaks for me. Now. We wrote, we took I'm Limited
Power and wrote rewrote it with black stories twenty years ago,
I'm Living Power, Black Choice. He's African Americans and and
we wrote wrote that book together so we could change

(59:54):
the stories to inspire people because I'm a white guy
and we could all be inspired by any story. We've
been friends for a thirty since that time and helped
people around the world. Set up to Joseph, what would
the what would this Tony two? Younger Tony, I would say, um,
stress less, enjoy more, because it's all gonna be beautiful. Brother.
You know, your level of work ethic, your level of caring,

(01:00:16):
your level of passion, and your unrelenting, fucking commitment to
serve will bring such beauty to the world, to your friends,
to your family, and to yourself. So I probably would
have enjoyed a little more along the way. Today I
do enjoy it massively, but I'll be honest. It's like
I'm seven days a week twenty for us to day.
I gotta save everybody every time, making my poor life

(01:00:38):
exhausted travel on the earth. COVID has had its other
gifts too, which is I haven't been in one place
like this, you know, for since I was seventeen, you know,
and so I've had more time with my family. But
I haven't shrunk my reach. I've expanded my reach just
using new technology to do it. I just I just
want to take this time to tell you tony like,
and this is not for nothing, man like. Know. I

(01:01:01):
built my career, I built my family's lives. I built
our well being, our generation or wealth off of believing.
And and even when I got the times where I
tried to do new endeavors and I'm just like, okay,
they're not gonna really let me in this. I can't
really barge my way in. It's not like the streets.
It is not like just hustling and I think, you know,

(01:01:22):
wising up and get smarter and understand strategy and just
try other ways. And one thing that I want to say,
it just I just remember at times when um I
even thought like man like, I'm not gonna be to
pull this off. And I can just hear you in
my head from those podcasts and try something else, try
it again, try to keep trying to. And I just

(01:01:43):
want to tell you, just coming from the person that
built this brand in this life off of thug motivation,
that you know you you you inspire many of us, brother,
and I appreciate you taking the time to be the
first guest on the Recessing podcast. And I just can't
wait for my people in my coach to get a
whiff of what I've been, you know, here to witness

(01:02:05):
you know this, This is the real thing for me.
But I'm really grateful that I could share. And I
just listen, man, I'm just uh, you strip off the
skin and there's no difference from any of us. It's
just people's bullshit. It's just in their heads. And we
all know you're gonna countries where it's all white or
all black, and they set people separate. They're so damn tribal.
But that's that's the fear part of us, the spirit

(01:02:27):
part of us, regardless of religion, the soulful part of
us knows we're brothers and sisters, man, and just we
need that empathy and also calling it tight when it's bullshit,
calling it bullshit, but still keeping the empathy. I think
that's how we bring things together. It's not gonna be easy,
there's lots of work to be done, but I think
guys like yourself, you're showing the way. You're showing people

(01:02:47):
what's really possible. And I'm I'm grateful for you. And uh,
you know, sometimes I wish it was black so that
people could feel them different place. But you know that's
what Princy Jones. Princy Jones has got a dear, dear
friend of mine, and you know he calls me his
ghetto brother and my wife and ghetto sister. One day, sister,
he goes Tony, he goes your d N. A man,

(01:03:08):
your DNA, And I said, kid, what are you talking?
He goes, damn near Africa. I like that. That's that's
what you got. You got some more brothers here than us. Man,
were always here for your brother. Anything we could do. Man,
let me offer you one last thing if I made
just for your audience, If it's okay, I like to
one more seed is something that might be helpful. When

(01:03:29):
I had this experience when I was a kid, we
had no money for food, and it was Thanksgiving on
the eleven. That's what started all this for me and
beeding people and so forth. It's like somebody fed my
family and my not not to cut you up, I
could tell you this story would go ahead. And what
I'm saying is I know it. I just want people

(01:03:50):
to know that when I'm eleven and like we're not
gonna have any food, we're gonna start we are crackers
and buttery and that ship, and we wouldn't have a
Thanksgiving dinner. This guy comes to the door with these
you know, I knocked, knocks on the door, tall guy
bags of food, you know, turkey on the ground, you know,
And it goes to your father here and I'm like,
no problem. So I've run to get my Daddy's yelling
up my mom. My mom's doing him saying stuff you

(01:04:11):
can never take back in a really horrible stuff. And
my dad got mad. He's like, we don't take charity,
and a long story short, eventually took the food slam
the door. Didn't thank the guy. I was stunned because
I was like, there's food, and now what a concept.
This is really cool? And I couldn't figure it out,
and then my father left about two weeks later, never
to be seen for another five years. It was the

(01:04:34):
one was dearest to me. The reason I tell you
a story is trying to figure that out. I realized
one day that there's three decisions we all make, and
I just want to share it with your audience because
I just think it's simple. You know, you can work
for years to try to simplify something so you can
act on it. Always tell people complexity is the enemy
of execution. The more complex you make it, you make
yourself feel smart, but you don't do anything right. There's

(01:04:57):
three decisions we all make, and I just want your
audience check see if it's through YouTube. First decision is
what are you gonna focus on? Like right now, most
of these three decisions are made unconsciously, so you keep
doing the same ship, getting the same life. But if
you get come conscious of these three things, you can
change everything in your life. So the first one is
what do you focus on? Because whatever you focus on,

(01:05:18):
you're gonna feel if you focus on this person is
taking advantage of you, even if they're not, You're gonna
color it, You're gonna see it that way, you're gonna
feel that way. You're supposed to meet somebody for dinner
at seven and they don't show up. If in the
past you focus on your mind you're screwing around with
somebody else, you're gonna be pissed. If you think they're
in a car accident, you're gonna be, you know, worried
about them. So what we focus on is the single

(01:05:40):
most important decision of our life, and most of us
we don't focus on. We love machines, do it. What's happening.
The way people are being manipulated today is mind boggling,
and it starts with your focus. So learning how to
control your focus is everything. So the three decisions you've
got to decide what to focus on. Are you gonna
focus on what's right or what's wrong? Are you gonna
focus on the blood that's rushing through your left ear

(01:06:02):
you were thinking about, or your clothing touching your skin,
or what you're gonna do for the world. Right, we
can't focus on everything at once. We have a limited
amount of focus. So once you focus on what matters most,
when you start majoring in minor things, you're gonna have
a problem. But if you focus on the things that
matter most your body, your motions, your relationships, your career,
your family, God making a difference, your business. There only

(01:06:24):
so many things. You put focus on those things in
it changes. But the minute you focus on something, it
starts a pattern. Then the brain makes a second decision,
what does this mean? Is this the end of the beginning.
If you get the end of a relationship, you're gonna
treat that person very differently than if you think at
the beginning of relationship. If you think God is punishing
you right now with this problem, or God is challenging you,

(01:06:48):
or this problem is a gift from God, or there
it's not God at all. I'm a lazy bastard. Whatever
you decide to give to a meaning, he's gonna change
how you feel. So if you if I think you're
disrespecting me versus you're challenging me. The minute you focus
on something, you're a couple of the meaning. If the
meaning is a negative meaning, you're gonna go to a
negative emotion. If the meanings a positive, you're gonna go

(01:07:10):
a positive motion. And that controls your third decision. What
are you gonna do? So I want to give your
your listeners, not just one quick little distinction starts with focus.
Where do you spend more of your focus? And I'm
gonna give you three quick distinctions and we're done. One
answer this question for yourself if you're listening right now,
are watching, And the question is we all have different focuses.

(01:07:34):
Do you tend to focus more on what you have
or what's missing from your life? Intended? We both? We
do both. Everybody is both. But where do you spend
more of your time focusing on what's missing or what
you have? Now, when I do this an audience of
you know, ten people in the stadium, I deal with
him and I am raised their hands. I can see
in a mass audience across the world that's made up

(01:07:54):
usually some of ours will usually translate five or six languages.
We have people usually forty or fifty country at a time.
So I got a real picture of the world. And
in my seminars, people are coming their achievers, they want
to achieve, they're hungry, they're driven that you know, or
they got dragged there, you know what the two and
the bottom line is most of those people focus on
what's missing. And so you got to think about this

(01:08:16):
for a second. Think of this is software. There's nothing
wrong with you or I. But if I'm constantly focusing
or what's missing, how can I ever sustain happiness? No
matter how many beautiful people in my life, children, family, lovers,
no matter how much money a maker, business, it's not
gonna happen. You have a billion dollars, and if every
day you're piste off and frustrated, the quality of life

(01:08:36):
is piste off and frustrated. Right, you don't have it.
So our focus tends to be for most people, what's missing.
And the problem is you can build on failure if
you focus on what you do have, what you do,
you practice attitudes of gratitude. Right. The more you do
when your grandmother taught you to do, it gives you
an energy, and that energy gives you strength the deal

(01:08:56):
with those challenging times. It's not about being fake and phony.
It's about just remembering the truth of what's good, because
that's the only place you can go from. Now here's
the second one. Do you tend to focus on what
you can or can't control? Which gets more of your time?
Do you focus more on you can control or can't control?
Most people in my seminars focus on what they can control.

(01:09:17):
That's why they came there. They want to take control
their finances or their business, or their relationship, for their
body or their economics. Right, that's why they go. But
most people in the general public focus on what they
can't control. So I want you to think about this,
just in software. If your brain is always looking for
what's missing, seeing what's not good in your life, and

(01:09:37):
focusing on what you can't control, what are you gonna
feel most days of your life? I'm gonna feel overwhelmed, stress,
hissed off, angry, rageful, depressed, one of those? Right, And
then a third pattern is do you tend to focus
more on the past, the present, or the future? We
do all three? Where do you spend more of your time?

(01:09:59):
And when I doing my seminars, the smallest numbers passed
when you go to general public, most of its past,
and the past isn't always good and you can't change it.
If you want to succeed, you anticipate the future. You're anticipating,
so you're not having your react. That's your power. You're anticipating.
That's what you've done in your life. That's both of
you done. I've done it as well, But you also
got to spend time in the present moment, soak it

(01:10:21):
up and enjoy where it is, because otherwise you're always
chasing right to watch this, I ask people in seminars
all the time, how many of you know somebody that
takes end of the pressence and they're still depressed and
you get like, room raises their hand eight five nights
percent of the room. So how is that possible? Because
when you give somebody a drug, all it does is
numb them. It doesn't take care of the problem. The

(01:10:43):
problem is you're focused on what's missing all the time,
focusing what you can't control. There's so much you can't control,
but there's so much you can control. What you focus on.
Control your emotion and control the meaning, control what you do.
You can't control the economy, you can't control you know,
other people's attitudes. You can't control lot of life. So
you're focus on what you can and when you make
those three changes, where you develop the habit. That's what

(01:11:05):
I teach people to do, to find what's empowering, to
see what you really do have and build on the
success versus the failure. When you're focused on what you
can control and you're focused on building the future, but
enjoying the present. He completely changes the quality of people's lives.
So I just want to plant that seed. It is like,
there are little patterns, don't change your whole life. We

(01:11:25):
think it's like, oh my god, I'm thirty pounds over right.
It's usually three or four things you gotta change. But
we are so overwhelmed by it, by the emotion of
it all, and we've tried so many times. It's never worked.
On nothing I'll ever work. We're afraid to fail. But
if you can practice a couple of new patterns of
just the way you think, it'll change the way you feel,
will change what you do, It will change your results,

(01:11:46):
and it will create the quality of life you desire
and deserve. Your great Tony Rabbits people and not thank you,
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