Richard Sherman reacts to Week 3 in the NFL and to the Arizona Cardinals' upset win over the Dallas Cowboys, the Seattle Seahawks' beating the Carolina Panthers and the Green Bay Packers' comeback victory over the New Orleans Saints. Richard Sherman goes off on the Denver Broncos-Miami Dolphins game while discussing Tua Tagovailoa, Russell Wilson, Sean Payton & Tyreek Hill. Richard gives his thoughts on Taylor Swift showing up to watch Travis Kelce, Justin Fields continuing to struggle, and Brandon Staley lucking into a win. Richard thinks the Minnesota Vikings need to trade Kirk Cousins... and maybe Justin Jefferson, too. #volume #herd
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Speaker 2 (01:44):
Don't fop Bowl Championship. That should always do the expectation,
All right, man, ex you go ahead.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast. It's week three, Mitchell,
and already some colossal surprises, Richard.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Where should we start?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
There was a lot of.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Surprise, rich.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I can hold it.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Just just take it away, rich Just Arizona.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Who would a funk it?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Because I promise you Vegas wasn't thinking it. Vegas lost
money today, Buddy, that's for damn.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Sure, Mitchell.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Anybody who betted on the Dallas Cowboys Vegas is they're
loving it, Mitchell, because Dallas was the favorite. And I'm
sure nobody bet on the Arizona Cardinals to cover right
now if they did, I mean they need to get
a new job as a predictor. I'm sure a lot
of people love to hear their opinions, But my goodness, Mitchell,
the Dallas Cowboys, they spent the first two weeks, Mitchell,
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they beat up on.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
The the Giants.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Defense playing really well, really well, a lot of sacks,
a lot of chaos, og Ogee Jewela. It was a
lot of people, Oh, Gee, didn't Zua, Ogi, didn't Zua,
something like that. But Mitchell, Micah Parsons was playing phenomenal,
a wrecking games. Trayvon Diggs is getting interceptions, Stefan Gilmore
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is getting interceptions, when Leik Hooker is getting interceptions. All
over the place. Everybody's playing there, but all defensively. I
kept saying, this offense just it's not holding up there
into the bargain. And all I kept hearing from everybody
else was they don't need to The defense is playing
so well, they don't need to show up yet. It's
it's not their fault. They're they're in blowouts. They don't
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need to act all. They don't need to put up
big points or put up big yards. Dak is just
doing what he needs to do to win these games.
But it just doesn't look right, guys, it just doesn't
look right. Doesn't look like they're an efficient offense. When
I look at the San Francisco forty nine ers, I
see an efficient offense. Regardless of what the score, if
it's close, if it's a blowout, I know they're gonna
move the ball down the field. They're likely gonna score
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in the red zone. I watched the Miami Dolphins. They're
gonna move the ball down the field. They're likely going
to score in the red zone. I watched the Kansas
City Chiefs. They're gonna move the ball down the field.
They're likely going to score in the red zone. The
Philadelphia Eagles, once they figured out, hey they're putting the
top on the defense or not, they're not gonna let
Jalen Hurts and all day always open. AJ Brown and
Devontae Smith. Just take the top off the defense. They're
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gonna make you run it.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Well.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Then they ran for two hundred and fifty yards and
did the same thing everybody else did. But with the
Dallas Cowboys, they getting the red zone. They don't score
a lot of points offensively, they don't score a lot
of points. The defense always has to break the game open.
And this time, give Josh Gannon a lot of credit, Mitchell,
because he knows this Dallas Cowboys team, he knows their tendencies,
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he knows Jack Prescott, and he kept him in check
the entire game, the entire game to the tune of
sixteen points.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Mitchell.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I think it was only one touchdown. One touchdown with
some guys on defense that you cannot name, Mitchell, some
guys that showed up a couple of weeks Mitchell. And
and then you're missing your best defensive player in Buddha Baker.
Now because you're white, played a phenomenal game. He was
all over the place. Give him all the credit in
the world. I don't want to take anything away from
Arizona Cardinals. Josh Dobbs big runs, big passes when they
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needed them, James Connor ran the ball. The offensive line
for the Arizona Cardinals played really well.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
It was.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
It was a good game overall by them, and their
offensive coordinator called a really good game. So you you
I don't want to take anything from them. So let's
let's not get it confused. I'm not trying to say
that Arizona Cardinals didn't play well. But Dallas is supposed
to be a Super Bowl favorite this year. Arizona Cardinals
were supposed to pick top five, top three, really but
top five, Mitchell, nobody expected this result. Dak Prescott got
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to the red zone one for five, an interception and
a four and out inside the five, both of them
to Cede Lamb. Well all three because he threw a
few incompletions to ceede Lamb when they need to have him.
One time they kick ended up kicking field goal. Michael
Parsons got a sack. But this Arizona Cardinals offensive line
isn't renowned, so they should have more than two sects.
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But it seems like people are starting to figure out
how to block him. He had a lot of one
on ones, Mitchell. You could hear throughout the broadcast. Hey,
they're leaving Michael Parsons one on one, telling these guys
they got a hard down. Now he puts some pressure
on on Josh Dobbs, and Josh was able to avoid
to get the ball out.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
But my god, this is.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
A disaster, Richard. Josh Dobbs only threw four incompletions all game.
I mean, I know you're gonna be talking a lot
this week about the Dallas Cowboys and their renowned number
one overall defense. But God bless it the Arizona Cardinals,
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rich they got it done and they looked good last
week too. But as an Arizona fan base tanking for
Caleb Williams and having another pick from the Houston Texans
when both the Arizona Cardinals and the Houston Texans win,
that might be tough. As an Arizona Cardinal fan rooting
for Caleb Williams. Rich But I'll say this, Dallas is
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not whoever one thinks they are. They got still worse
to do. And to your point, Richard, when you left
the Seattle Seahawks and moved a little bit south to
the San Francisco forty nine ers, you told me, I
like their coaching staff, I like what they're building. I
looked at you like you were freaking crazy, because I'm
pretty sure the San Francisco forty nine ers were last
in the division the year prior. And he said, Mitch,
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they got something brewing. I trust you with your instincts,
and I trust you with the Dallas Cowboys offense, because
you're right about that. They have not been tested this
year and they're about to be tested going forward. Trevon
Diggs goes down during practice with an ACL injury.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Richard.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
That is terrible, especially in practice on what was it
a Wednesday or a Thursday?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Richard.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
How much do you think that had to do with
this outcome today?
Speaker 2 (08:02):
A lot? A lot.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
You lose one of your best players, a leader on
your defense, an emotional leader. You looked at the training
camp battles with him and Dak going at it and
all the headlines that that made. He was he was making,
he was growing, he was blossoming as a leader of
this defense and as somebody who set the tone for
this defense along with obviously Michael Parsons. But its shell
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shocks you, similar to when the Jets lost Aaron Rodgers,
except they lost him on game day, so at least
the Dallas Cowboys had a couple of days to kind
of like deal with the loss, to probably comfort comfort him,
to try to talk to him, to try to mentally,
you know, because people don't understand there's a mental emotional
toll to lose in one of your teammates, especially a
teammate that is that valuable to what you do and
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your plans going forward, that it changes people's livelihoods, you
know what I mean, It changes the trajectory of seasons.
You know, he's that caliber of player, and he has
been in the National Football League, and now now you
have to find a way now only to try to
fill the void, just positionally, like somebody else has to
play the corner on the on the right side or
the offenses left. But in terms of like everything, all
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the intangibles that he brought to the table, and he's
an incredible person, incredible teammate. You saw he would the
defense look totally different. They look totally befuddled without him.
There were a lot of holes that you know, in
the run game, they didn't have answers in a past game,
they didn't have answers. And Joshua Dobbs was very efficient,
Like I don't think he has that kind of game
which Rayvon Dig's playing. I don't highly doubt it. So
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there is an emotional toll to that. But Mitchell, the
part that I didn't understand is I was there were
Dallas Cowboy fans all in the mentions Mitchell saying, oh
you got him too. You're you're dumb, You don't you
don't watch football, You don't understand football. I don't watch,
I don't understand. No, I do watch, and I fully understand.
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I'm not being biased like the San Francisco fort Niners.
I have a little bit of by, but I don't
need to be with what they're putting on tape. They're
putting good film on tape both sides.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Of the ball.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
There's balanced there what the Dallas Cowboys were doing. We're
putting a lot of good, great phenomenal things on tape. Defensively,
I saw things that were sustainable defensively. I saw things
that were not sustainable offensively, and that would get them
in trouble if they ever got in the game where
they were behind, and they were behind from the beginning
of this game until the clock struck zero, Mitchell and
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they could not come back because Mike McCarthy is not
a good play caller.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
He's not.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
There's the reason nobody calls him to call plays. There's
a reason why he shouldn't be calling plays. Everybody was
complaining about Kellen Moore. Wasn't throwing when he should be throwing.
He was running when he should be throwing. He was
throwing when he should be running. Kellen Moore is out
there with Justin Herbert living the best life. I ain't
going back and forth with you. I'm living my best life.
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He was forty for forty seven, four hundred yards, four touchdowns.
They were out there throwing the ball all.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Over the yard.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
And you got Dallas cowboy fans who when he was
eighty five percent in the red zone last year, complaining
that he's not doing a good job.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Well, guess what.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Now, you're one and five in the red zone in
a game against the Arizona Cardinals and then throwing interceptions.
You couldn't score in the red zone. You couldn't score
from far. You can move the ball down the field,
but you couldn't get it too the Promised Land.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
And now what do you say, Well, Mike McCarthy's terrible.
We all knew that. We've been watching him. We knew that.
That's why when he came, Jerry Jones like no, no, no, no, no,
no no, no, Kellen. Kellen's gonna call the place.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
But he must have convinced Jerry like, hey, I'm coaching
for my life, I gotta call the shots.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Well, Jerry, you might need to call Dion or get
dan q.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
DQ started in the fold and start writing them contracts, baby,
because this is gonna end the same way it always do.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Well.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
They got a tough matchup next weekendst the Pats Rich.
I know you're gonna be talking about these cowboys all
week mm hmm.
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Speaker 1 (12:59):
Let's take it to your neck of the woods, though, Rich, Seattle,
they beat up, they beat the Panthers. I mean, I
don't know what's to be expected of the Panthers. Andy
Dalton at the hell on this game? They needed this game.
Seattle's two to one. Now what your thoughts on this game?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Rich Mitchell? My thoughts your boy? Kenneth Walker the third
showing up again came another week two TDS.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
You saw him in the past game.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
You saw him in a run game Gino through for
almost three hundred Mitchell, Oh, it was it was just
it was here and then it was there, and then
you had Dkpile Copile on the run side on GENA.
Like Mitchell, it looked good, but it still was a
close game. But then you look up and you're like,
who are they missing? Defensively, Reek is missing Mitchell, Jamal
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Adam's supposed to come back. Offensively, they're still missing both tackles.
Charles Cross potentially coming back next week. Abe Lucas is
still on IR So for them to be able to
do this undermanned was impressive. People are not giving the
Carolina Panthers a lot of respect because of who you know,
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obviously they got a poor, poor roster. You know, not
a lot of names, known names. But Andy Dalton can
still slang it. He can still move the football, throw
the football around the yard, and he showed it again.
They would have been better off going against Bryce Young
because at least you got a young guy who hasn't
seen these looks before. Andy Dalton. He get out there,
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he say, hey, young, gona let me throw it. I'm
gonna get three fifty four hundred out of this, and
he did. He was able to move the ball around
and them. Thieland had a really good game, another veteran.
They found some holes in the defense. They attacked the
rookie spoon. He got some good learning lessons this week
playing on the outside, playing a lot of snaps because
Reek was out. But they looked good. I think this
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was a really good game play calling from Hurt. I'm
sure there were things they want to clean up, things
they can execute better.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
I thought.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Offensively, Shane Waldron put on a clinic, absolute clinic, being dynamic,
creative with what they did offensively, moving people around. How
he got Kenneth Walker the ball in space. Jaron reied
this was a good game for him one and a
half sacks. It just always feels good to get in
a link. And then it was a great game for
the twelves. Twelves, Mitchell, when I stopped, when I stopped,
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count Mitchell, there were eight off side I mean false
star penalties.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
The record is eleven. They were trying to close in
on the record.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
They were rattling them boys and egerro Ever Roll, the
defensive coordinator for the Carolina Panthers, was out there doing
a lot, a lot with a little and we're gonna
talk about him a little later in the show.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Well, Richard, the Seattle Seahawks get another I don't want
to call it easy game, but it's looking pretty damn
easy on the prime time Monday NAY football against the
Giants next week. Could we be looking at three and one,
you think.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Rich Mitchill, We could easily be looking at three and one.
You can easily look at three and one, And what's crazy, Mitchell?
For the Dallas Cowboys, we could easily be looking at
two and two.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
And if that happens, whoa, whoa? Because the.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Blueprint is out there, Mitchell, what do you gotta do
to beat the Dallas Cowboys? As my guy Mike Irvin says,
you gotta be physical. You gotta be physical. Run the
ball down their throats until they stop you. They ran
for one hundred and eighty five yards in the first half.
The Arizona car News did one hundred and eighty five. Mitchell,
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you think Bill Belichick isn't sitting there like we got
a few of those runs. We got a few things
we can do with that. Hey, we may not push
the ball down the field as much we may. You know,
every week is different for New England Patriots. But defensively,
I know exactly what they're gonna do. They're gonna take
away CD LAMB. They're gonna make every everybody else beat them,
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and they're gonna stop the run, and they're gonna say, Dak,
good luck, your card.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Noir Baby.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Richard the other game I've been anxious to talk about
because we just had him on the podcast earlier this week,
your boy, your former team teammate Raheem Moster, the Miami
Dolphins seventy points, rich seventy to twenty against the Denver Broncos,
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It's gotta be rich It's gotta be your boy. Raheem Mostert,
he made it look way too freaking easy. Four toddies
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rich against these Broncos. Last year's defense would not have
given up four touchdowns, but this year's defense, Hey, here's
the end zone. Enjoy it, Richard, your thoughts on Raheem Moster,
your boy. Eighty two rushing yards, seven receptions sixty yards.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
What do you have?
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Four?
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Five tuddies?
Speaker 2 (18:11):
What Mitchell I thought?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Oprah must have been out there because it was like,
you get a touchdown, you'll get a touchdown. You get
a touchdown when you will get a touchdown, Mitchell. Two players,
not just one, not just haym Heim had four touchdown
heck of a game. He but Devon or cain at
Caine eighteen rushes two three two rushing touchdowns, four receptions
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thirty yards and two receiving touchdown. Mitchell, that's four as well.
And then you throw in the guy you gotta beat
that has you like this all game, and that's Tyreek Hill.
He has your stress, Mitchell, he has your stress, and
he already had a touchdown, but he had he had
nine catches for one fifty seven in a tug but
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heam was doing it every which way. Seven catches for
sixty yards, nine thirteen rushes for eighty two yard in
three touchdowns on the ground, Mitchell, what's concerning. The most
concerning thing about this is people are gonna blame Russell
for this, and it's not his part. He played a
pretty good game. He played a pretty good game. You
have to touchdown. He turned it over once, but I
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mean he threw for three hundred Some of those were
garbage time yards. But he played a pretty solid game.
This is one of his better games as a Denver Bronco.
But it's the thing that always happens, Mitchell. When you
get one side playing great, other side folds. Last year
he didn't play so great, and he let the defense
down multiple times over and over.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
This year he's playing good.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
The defense is letting him down in a major way, Mitchell,
in a major way. And I like Sean Payton. I
really like Sean Payton. He was a friend. We have
good conversations. But during training camp he showed the video
of the Bronco driving off the cliff, and it ended
up being way more symbolic than it needed. Mitchell, it
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was supposed to be last year's Broncos. That's this year's
Broncos mentell off the cliff because last year's Broncos didn't
start ohing three.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
They were two to one, battling.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Every week they were battling, whether they won by one point,
lost byt point. It was a dog fight every week.
They lost multiple games by one score. You know, they
lost a bunch of one score games, probably like five
or six of them. They got blown out one time
in the season against the Rams. It was I think
it was fifty one to fourteen. That was thirty seven
point a blowout. But they didn't never get beat by fifty, Mitchell.
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They did not get beat by fifty. They did not
get seventy points put up on them at any time.
When when seventy points get put up, I apologize for
defensive to defensive coordinator advanced Joseph.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
But heads got a roll.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Somebody got to go, Mitchell, seventy points with that talented
of a defense, you got the best corner in the
National Football League, justin Simmon is one of the best
safeties in the National Football League. You got Randy Gregory,
you got talent on that defensive line. DJ Jones you got.
So it's not like you're sitting there with with the
Arizona Cardinals roster, with the Carolina Panthers roster, where it's like, hey,
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they just don't have the guys. They don't have the playmakers,
They don't have the guys to get this done. They
have the guys, and so that's concerning. But another thing
is Sean Payton said some things about to a tongue
of Iloa that he may not have proved of Mitchell.
They said he said in a couple games, they probably
gonna replace him with Teddy Bridgewater, like they probably be
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better off playing with Teddy Bridgewater. Well, guess what he
hurt you and then he shreded your defense. He didn't
throw it in completion, I think until the second half.
He was seventeen to seventeen before he threw it in
completion and ended up twenty three of twenty six for
three h nine, four touchdowns, one hundred and fifty five
point eight passer rating. Mitchell on twenty six passes one
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hundred and fifty eight is perfect, my goodness, Like he
can't throw the ball in his backyard and have that
much perfection. He can't go routes on air and make
it look that good. And then you got chosen Anderson,
who get in with my boy Mike White, And.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Then they go for another one.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Like they kneeled the ball when they could have went
for the record. But I don't want to hear it
about Russell Wilson in this week, Mitchell, and are these
games He's actually played some pretty solid football.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
The defense has played. I'm trying to find the word.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Porus awful, horrendous, horrendous like it's been. It's been really bad.
And they have too many good players to play this bad.
And so you go from each row Evere who's now
with Carolina Panthers, who's probably gonna get a head coaching
job soon, to Vance Joseph who has who has coordinated
some really good defenses in the past with the Rams,
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He's coordinated the Super Bowl defense before.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
But what he's doing right now, we'll get whoa, We'll
get him sent home.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
And Sean Payton has to be shivering in his in
his boots because he talks so bad about Nathaniel Hackett,
and you can't Nathaniel Hackett at this point of the season.
Last year was two and one, was two and one.
So if you're gonna sit there and talk about a
guy that's two and one and you're on three and
just got beat by fifty, you'll likely get your first
win next week against the Bears. You'll likely get it,
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but you still got a tough rover after that. I
think you got the Bears and then Kansas City, and
if you let Andy Reid is gonna be looking at
that like, hey, he let Miami put up seventy Yup.
Miami's a great team with a great offense. But he's like,
we can do it too. In there in there in
they're in Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I believe. Oh man, Mitchell, I think I might be
at that game? Is that Thursday game? It's that Thursday game.
It might be a Thursday game, Mitchell. It might be
the one I'm at. Mitchell, Oh my god, Mitchell, I
think it's the one I'm at.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Are you gonna witness at first hand?
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Rich?
Speaker 1 (23:46):
There's a couple other things here.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Rich.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
If you're living in Colorado and right now and you're
a fan of the Colorado Buffs and the Denver Broncos.
It's been a rough weekend for you. We're sorry, Richard.
Let me break down these seventy points scored for you
real quick. It's the most scored in an NFL game
since nineteen sixty six, right, nineteen. Teams in the NFL
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thus far the season havn't scored seventy points combined on
the year, Richard, this looked like a high school game.
This looks like your standard high school game, right, Like
who's going to let off the gas pedal first?
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Right?
Speaker 1 (24:28):
And the coach just finally says, hey, you know what,
enough's enough, Let's put in the third stringers. This game
was consistency, quarter after quarter after quarter after quarter. Miami Dolphins,
they look legit, rich Tua toungua i Looa looks legit.
Rich Is is he a true, true, true MVP candidate
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right now?
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Or is this an overreaction, Mitchell, Unless you somebody's speaking
about a game that's other than football, you better put
him in it. I mean, because at first it was like, oh,
you know, he's got he's got tyer Reek and Tarik's
doing it. And Tarik had a pretty good game, but
he threw four touchdown passes.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
He threw in the two backs. He was out here
looking like my homes with a flick.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
I think they put that in just so he can
make one look sexy because he did it twice. No
look have that have that? And the young kid, Devon A. Kane,
I may be saying his name wrong.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
I apologize with Devon A Chain, rich A Chain A chain,
Devon A Chain went off and I can't wait to
argue with Skip about it because I'm gonna use the
name Devon H Chain because you talk about Tony Pyler,
you talk about Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
I'm not gonna put him in there. He's more like
a Devon ah Shane. But he's not even there because
Devon A Change probably has Tony Pollard's full season stats
in that one game.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
And it's looking crazy. Mentell, it's starting to sound crazy.
Am I crazy? Might be crazy?
Speaker 1 (25:53):
You're not crazy. I'm crazy because I dropped Von a
Chain for my fantasy roster going into this weekend. Rich
Can you believe that fifty five Fantasy points in PPR
for Devon A Chain Richard? Let's move on, hey, before
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Rich All right, let's let's move it down, Richard, I
am scared. I'm not gonna lie. Let's go to Green Bay.
I'm scared. I was in Ford Field all day today.
I saw on the scoreboard the New Orleans Saints up
seventeen to nothing, and I said, okay, we're good. The Lions,
the NFC North is ours. There's nothing to worry about here.
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But by god, Jordan Love makes a huge comeback. Rich
How real is Jordan Love? Eighteen to seventeen looked legitimate,
looked legitimate.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
He had his young guy moments where he missed some
wide open passes that Lafloor drew up. He's drawn up
a really good game plan for the kid. Their defense
is playing well. Where Shaun Gary three sacks, Kenny Clark
had a sack, Romeo Dobbs had a really incredible catch.
So I mean he looks the part. He looked much
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better in the when they had to have it, they
had to have a drive, he looked apart. He looked
really good. He executed down a stretch, he ran it
when he had to run it. He was accurate when
he needs to be accurate. And then the Saints blew it.
The Saints blew it more than green Bay wanted, but
green Bay got the win. They put gre Derek Carr
out the game with a shoulder injury, but they came.
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You got to give him credit because that's a really
good defense. The Saints defense is one of the top
defenses in the National Football League. And when Derek Carr
went out, it was like the air went out the balloon.
The air went out, the balloon went out the stadium.
He didn't have They didn't have it, dy board, bitchull.
They they lost momentum and the Packers took it and
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ran with it. Their defense got hotter. Jamis Woodson couldn't
put together a drive until they ended the game. He
put together a decent drive to get him in field
goal range, and then they missed the field goal. That
was the heartbreaker. They missed the field goal. But they're
still missing JayR Alexander and obviously Aaron Jones Christian Watkins
who was their big play guy. So you got to
give him credit. You got to give him credit. They
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played really well. But I think it's gonna be a
really good divisional game next week that I'm gonna be at. Menchell,
You're gonna be at in the stands, and I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
I can't wait either. I mean, Jordan Love, I think
you're right. I don't want to get too far ahead
of things here. The reality is Derek Carr and this
Saints team had this game locked and loaded. I was
a little surprised because Vegas was pretty heavy on the
Saints going into this game. In fact, they were favored
going into this game, and sure shit, the Packers pulled
it off. Jordan Love, you know, doing his thing that
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he's respectable, Let's just put it that way.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Right, He's above respectable. He played a pretty decent.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Game, very much so I think the Packers are a
threat in this NFC. But more needs to be done.
More needs to be done. But Richard, this is the
largest comeback in Packer's history, down seventeen to nothing in
the fourth, so that that's something that we should mention here.
Jordan Love was at the helm, not Brett Favre, not
Aaron Rodgers and Richard. Last last week when we were
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on this podcast, I breathed a sigh of relief because
I thought Jordan Love was not that guy, did not
have the clutch ging Today he did. So let's let's
keep an eye out for the pack We're going to
be watching them on Thursday night.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Richard.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Let's keep it the division though, because Minnesota at home
in a must win game. They've won all the eleven
and zer last year in one possession games. Rich They're
oh in three to start the season. Los Angeles Chargers
get the dub twenty eight to twenty four. Your thoughts
on this game.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Well, first off, Justin Jefferson was one yard away from,
you know, being breaking another record I believe for his
age and this point in his career. But it just
it's just unfortunate because Kirk Cousins, just like Russell Wilson,
is gonna get blamed for this game. And Kirk Cousins
played a really solid game. He got the heck beat
out of him. Mitchell, they were all they were hitting
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him left and right, Joey Bosa, Khalil Mack, they were
they were getting after him, whether he had the ball
or didn't have the ball. And then I mean their
defense didn't want to stop anybody. Well, like we said earlier,
Justin Herbert with Kellen Moore at the Helm was forty
for forty seven four five, three touchdowns, no interception, one
hundred and twenty three point eight passer rating. You cannot
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do better than that. Second to Peyton Manning at this
point in his career all time, keenan Allen turning back.
If I could turn turn back the hands of time,
my dollar and you Mitchell, he turned back the hands
of time. Menchell eighteen catching for two point fifteen career highs.
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He's setting career highs in year. It's got to be
twelve year, twelve setting career highs. That's what That's what
happened in a great quarterback, and he had a good quarterback.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
He had a really good.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Quarterback and Philip rivers for a long time, but he's
breaking records with Herbie. And then you got Mike Williams
had a nice breakout game, some incredible catches seven for
one to twenty one in a tug. But again, the
injury bug keeps creeping in, keeps creeping in. That's why
they drafted a receiver in the first round. Joey Bosa
had a good game, Kenneth Murray had an interception, but
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Kirk Cousin and Justin Jefferson just wasting away with no
defense to be had. And my god, Brandon Stay might
have the most luck ever because he made a bonehead
decision and survived it. Made a bonehead decision and still
got to win. If they would have lost this game, Mitchell,
I don't know if he would have. I don't know
if he would have made it all the way home
before they pulled the plug on the Brandon Stay experiment.
(32:21):
And I don't know if it's I still don't think
it's he's out of hot water. Yet clearly they're one
and two and got a long world ahead of him.
They got the Raiders next week. And the Raiders, I mean,
they got a solid team. They can get it done.
But will Kirk Cousins even be there next week. Will
the will the Minnesota Vikings finally say hey, this season
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is lost. We got to get a quarterback next year
in the first round. We may as well trade our
first rounder. I mean trade for the Jets first rounder.
While we got Kirk, We're not going to resign him.
We'd rather get him first rounder for him than lose
him for nothing. I mean, they could franchise him, but
I would imagine Kirk has the non franchise clause in
his contract, seeing has he got franchised three times before.
(33:04):
But it's just they don't look like a good team
and they get bullied. Seven fumbles and the fumbles.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
TJ.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Hockinson just got the ball taking from him early in
the game. First driving the game, maybe first or second drive.
They threw it to him and the guy just took
the ball from him. It was like he caught the
ball and was like, Hey, let me have this real quick.
I'm gonna take it over here to this sideline. And
it's just like, like, have some pride about yourself. You
just got paid seventeen million dollars, You're the highest paid
tight end national Football League. Now you can't just get
the ball taken from you. He had a solid game,
(33:31):
but Kirk Cousins deserves better. I wish him and the
Jets could get united. That's a pipe dream, but maybe
it can happen.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
What's that song, rich wasting away again in Margaritaville?
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Is that right? That sounds right?
Speaker 1 (33:44):
How about we changed the wasting away again in Minneapolis?
Because Richard, Justin Jefferson, Richard Justin Jefferson, is this primo
one of one, A unicorn, if you will, A one
of one? Richard? I do not want the same career
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trajectory that I saw with Calvin Johnson here in Detroit,
where he was that unicorn of his generation, of his
decade that just never was able to see that championship
potential because of the folks around him. And I love
me some Kirk Cousins. I'm a Michigan State fan. I
don't think he's the problem. Rich I think this goes
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a lot deeper than Kirk Cousins. I think he is
a true, bona fide starter in this league. But Richard,
we saw it with Calvin Johnson and Matt Stafford for
a better part of a decade. Right, are we looking
at the same career trajectory for Justin Jefferson unless mine
in Minnesota gets this shit together.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Yeah, I mean we are mettell he wants to get paid,
and he wants to get paid at a high level,
and he should be, but I'm not sure he really
wants to get paid in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
I wouldn't want to.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
I mean, you can get paid in place where you
got a chance to win, because when they get rid
of Kirk Cousins, everybody in Minnesota's like, oh, yeah, we
can't wait. We're gonna get so much better. Honestly, there's
not a lot better than that. The ones that are
better than that, nobody would trade like you got beyond that.
It's Mahomes, It's it's Josh Allen, It's Burrow, it's I
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mean now it's too a tongue of Ailoa, It's it's Herbert.
Those are the guys that aren't getting moved. So you think, kye,
somebody's gonna come in and save you.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Kirk Cousins is a.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Really good NFL quarterback, but he's not one that can
do it all by hisself. He can throw for four
hundred yards and moving offense down the field, maybe you
want to might want to protect him a little better,
a little better offensive line. But you need a defense,
and he would have one in New York. Just in
case I don't make it home tonight. Can you just
trade Kirk Cousins to the Jets for He's baby, Hey, Hey, hey, hey,
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just trading Mitchell. He don't even need to get in
his car. They got closed there. There's a lot of
shopping in New York. He don't got to pack a bag.
They will have his equipment there. You don't got to
leave the stadium. You need to learn to play book.
But Kirk, get to New York by any means. I
don't care if you got to walk in there and
stump it. Get me to New York now, asap, because
they're gonna respect you. You play like you do right
now for Minnesota Vikings throwing for three hundred three fifty
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a game in New York in that big market, your
payday is going to be massive, Kirk.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
You're gonna pay you like your top five.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Get Kirk Cousins to the Jets asap, pronto. Heysap Richard
the Kansas City Chiefs for the beat down on the Bears.
I don't really necessarily want to talk about this game.
I want to talk about the bigger part of this game, Richard,
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the game within the game.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
If you will, all right, talk.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
To me, Taylor Swift, is this a real thing? Rich
Come on now, traviss Kelsey, Taylor Swift, come on, you're
you're you're insight on this relationship.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Mitchell.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
I don't put a lot of stock into TMZ rumors
and all the ying yang and all the nonsense. Even
Tony asked the question when we were in uh Philly
to his brother Jason Kelsey. It was like, hey, it's
it real, and he was like, hey, you know, he
kept it pretty close to the vest, played it pretty
pretty well. But when you look into that to that booth, Mitchell,
you look into that suite and see her going crazy,
(37:34):
Like Mitchell, I don't know if she was a Kansas
City fan before you know she started dealing with Travis Kelsey.
But when he scored that touchdown, Mitchell, there was a
lot of excitement there, Mitchell, I, don't You don't see
that kind of excitement very often. There's a lot of
wives that aren't that excited when their husbands have that
level of success, and and Travis has been doing it
a long time. So for her to have that level
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of excitement, it's just you know, maybe it's it's doing
something for him. Maybe it's an experience she hasn't been
through before. Mitchell, bet because I just saw a different
kind of enthusiasm there, Mitchell enthused.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
You think she was more excited about that touchdown or
the fact that he finished with sixty nine receiving yards.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Rich, Mitchell, a little bit of both.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Mitchell, Let's get let's get to the game.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Rich.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
I mean, we got to talk a little bit about
Justin Fields because at this point in time, eleven of
twenty two, he can't even eclipse one hundred yards. Rich,
He's ninety nine yards passing a Tuddy an interception, eleven
rushing yards forty seven eleven rushes for forty seven yards.
How worried are you about Justin Fields.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
I'm incredibly worried because he's really it seems like he
was great talent at Ohio State, but you know the
Ohio State curse of quarterbacks that never do anything. I mean,
we just talked to TJ. Stroud is the first Ohio
State quarterback to throw for over three hundred and eighty
yards in a game ever in history of a game,
and Ohio State has been put in quarter backs in
the league for a long time. You don't know if
it's a chicken or the egg. You don't know if
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it's it's the offensive coordinator in the team, because they
absolutely are abysmal offensively. Their scheme is abysmal. They're not
calling great pays. You look on the tape, there aren't
there are open guys at times that he's missing. So
when he's not missing the open guys that are right
there in front of him, there aren't open guys. So
it's it's definitely looking like a failed experiment. It's looking
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like a bus potential, which is frustrating to see because
sometimes you get in the right situation. Would he have
been thrived under Kyle Shanahan and that offense, would his
career trajectory be different?
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Probably, But he's not.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
In that scheme and he's not in there, and he's
not doesn't seem like he's being well coached, so he's
running into issues and it doesn't look like it's going
to work out. It looks like they're going to be
picking top two, top three in a draft with this
if this keeps up, and do they pass on Caleb
Williams if he's available.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
I do not think they do. You can't, you can't.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
And Richard in this game, Patrick mahomes the fastest player
in NFL history twenty five thousand passyards. This is the
Steph Curry of our generation here in the NFL. Rich
Patrick Mahomes doing it on all levels. Andy Reid passes
Tom Landry for fourth most wins in NFL history. I
don't think he's stopping anytime soon, either. Rich a shell
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shocker in the NFL. Outside of your Dallas Cowboys and
Arizona Cardinals situation, we had another one. Indianapolis goes on
the road and beats the Baltimore Ravens and ot twenty
two to nineteen. Not a whole lot of folks saw
this coming. I know the weather was a factor, Ravens
had some injuries, but nonetheless, the Colts without Anthony Richardson
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go on the road. Get this, dub your thoughts on
this game.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Sometimes the backup is better than the starter, and a
lot of times, especially when you got rookie early draft picks,
you got to go through the learning curves. Not that
they won't be great, not that they won't throw a
mate play amazing, But at this point, I'm sure people
are more scared of Gardner Minshew than they are Anthony Richardson,
because you know he's a rookie. You can throw certain
looks at him, you can just put pressure on him.
That's why I right blitz his rookies. You brock Perdies.
(41:08):
He's not a rookie anymore, but technically he's only started
nine games, ten games or something like that, and so
it's still rookie experience. And so what did they do
last week? That the Giants eighty four percent of the
time they blitzed him. That's und Oh my god. I've
never heard of anybody getting blitzed eighty four percent at
a time, even bad quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
And so.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Similar to Andy Dalton with the Carolina Panthers, I'm sure
that Pete would have loved to face a rookie Bryce
Young and watch him go through his growing pains and
make mistakes because you dealing with an old Cagy chisel veteran.
He's gonna he's gonna go throw the ball around the yard,
but he's gonna know recognize the coverages. He's gonna be
able to punish you. And that's what Gardner Minshew did
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h to the tune of twenty seven to forty four
for twenty seven and a touchdown. But they also ran
the ball really well. Zach Mass thirty thirty carries for
one to twenty two. He caught the ball twice for
twenty two yards and a touchdown. And then their defense,
which wasn't bad. Gus Bradley, the well coached defense, four
sacks in the game. They limited Lamar and what he
could do. They ran stunts, they did different things with
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the defensive line, different things with the coverages to make
it very difficult for their receivers. Kyle Hamilton on the
other side, had three sacks by himself. Really good game
for the young kid. But it just wasn't enough. And
Lamar did everything he could do. He threw for two hundred,
he ran for a hunter, but it just wasn't enough
in the end. And the guy that they usually could
depend on, the most reliable, old old reliable, Justin Tucker,
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misses a sixty one yarder as time expires, and it's like,
I'm sure the Coats were ready to their coaches were
ready to take their headphones off because Justin Tucker, that's
what he does. He's automatic from that point. But Father
Time is undefeated, and that's what it looked like. I mean,
he was dead straight down the middle and didn't have
the leg. And that's the first time I think we
were ever going to say that Justin Tucker did not
have the leg.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Well Man Hey for the Indianapolis Colts four field goals
over fifty plus yard, so he had the leg, included
the fifty three yard field goal to win the game. Richard,
Indianapolis is two to one. You know, we didn't see
this coming early on this season. They're without Jonathan Taylor
thanks to their amazing ownership group that they we've already
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touched on. But this is a team. Maybe this is
a story developing here. Rich Indianapolis Colts two on one,
go on the road, get a huge victory over the
Baltimore Ravens. Rich I know you love the Jets, but
let's let's get real right now. They just lost at
home against the Patriots. What well, what do the Jets
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have to do because they have everything that a coach
could possibly want except a quarterback. With Aaron Rodgers going down,
I know you want them to go out and get
Kirk Cousins. How important is it for you as a
player in his prime? You don't want to waste Garrett Wilson,
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Sauce Gardner, you know, all these big name players that
they have on both sides of the ball. What do
the Jets have to do now to resurrect this season?
Speaker 2 (44:17):
They have to trade for Kirk. Sorry, Michell, we'll say it.
They have to trade for Kirk Cousins immediately. He immediately
makes them a contender again, even at a one and
two record. They have to do it now so that
he can get acclimated to the city, to the offense.
It's similar that you know, Nathaniel Hackett has similar calls
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and and and plays as Kevin O'Connell's offense. They have
a similar scheme, but I'm sure the verbiage may be
a little different. Aaron Rodgers coming from Green Bay, Nathaniel
Hackett coming from green Bay. The verbadge is going to
be different. But they're all from the same tree. Uh So,
I'm sure he'll make it easy. He'll they'll find like
minded concepts and figure it out. But I think he
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would immediately upgrade them to a tender and make them
a much more difficult out going forward, he'd make them
a much more difficult team to play going forward. The
next game they have is at the Chiefs. I mean,
they got the Chiefs on Sunday night football, Like that'd
be a great coming out party for Kirk Cousins to
battle the Chiefs with this team because their defense is
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get a battle. But if you run Zach Wilson out
there after the performance he just had, which was really
abysmal at times. They were two for fourteen on third down.
They were one for ten last week on third down,
it just doesn't feel like you give your team the
best chance and you don't inspire confidence. It's hard to
go out there as guys and fight your tails off
when you know you don't have a chance to win
the game, because at the end of the day, the
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guy under center is incapable of making it happen, no
matter how much you believe in him, no matter how
much you want him to be better. He didn't throw
any interceptions, so I guess you can celebrate that, But
eighteen for thirty six for one to fifty seven, with
some of those being garbage yards and things like that,
it's just like, I don't feel like you can honestly
feel comfortable with that.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Yeah, I'm Richard. I don't see any positivity coming out
of this Jets fan base. I mean, they were all
hyped up coming in this year, and rightfully so. Aaron
Rodgers supposed to be that guy to take him over,
that take him to the promised land, rich and they
got a very sobering sense of reality four snaps into
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the season, and now they just got to figure it
out because there's too much talent on this roster to
have another season waste wasted.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
Richard.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
I was at this game in Detroit. It was a
get back game. The Lions won twenty to six. I
feel pretty confident about the Lions going forward. I don't
know how much time you had to watch the game,
but it was one of those games, rich where they
just never you never had any sense of doubt. And
as a Detroit Lions fan, that's a rarity. And that's
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why I think that you know, hey, we might have
some here, rich We're going to be in Lambeau together
next Thursday. Richard, I want to talk about this game
real quick, but I also want your thoughts on that
game on Thursday night, your thoughts on what the Lions
did win in twenty to six against Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
I thought they did a lot of things. Well, you know,
they ran the ball Jamar Gibbs. We heard so so
much about him during training camp and how effective he
was going to be, but you weren't seeing a lot
of them. You know, they were still splitting carries, and
today they let him take the workload.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
He was seventeen rushes for eighty yards. Looked good. Jared
Goff looked pretty solid today.
Speaker 3 (47:31):
He had the one interception that was kind of a
weird throw and weird decision.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
He overthrew it.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
Straight to Jesse Bates, who's one of the best safeties
in the National Football League.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
So go ahead.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
But the way they contained Bjhon Robinson was really impressive
because John Robinson has been running, you know, on everybody.
Everybody ran a rack shop over the Green Bay Packers
last week. He had ten carries for thirty three yards.
This week, which speaks to that defense in their tenacity.
He had four catches for twenty seven yards. Dasmond Ritter
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was held in check. You didn't hear a ton from
from the big receivers, and so you gotta get him
on credit. Credit in the world Aiden Hudson two sacks.
He's starting to develop, you know, his game. That defensive
line gets gets going as as the game progresses, they
look legitimate. I could see them winning the game next
week if they can play like they just did well.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
Rich Jamier Gibbs is going to be forced to be
good because they don't really have another backup option outside
of him until until David Montgomery comes back. Jamier Gibbs,
it's his show and Richard we got we got somebody
I think that could be a potential George kittlesque tight
end in this league. And that's Sam Laporta. Hit a
huge first half, another Iowa tight end. Sam Laporta, great
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skill catching the ball yards after the catch. He's one
of those guys who just you know, wants contact. And
that's a good for the Lions. You already touched on it.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
TJ.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
Hockinson didn't have the best game. Lions management saw what TJ.
Hockinson was and I was a fan of TJ. Hockinson,
but I never saw him as that that number one
guy that he is now making seventeen plus million a year,
and the Lions elected to trade him and draft somebody
like Samuel Porta. Look out for Samuel Porta the rest
of this year. Guys Richard, you'll be able to see
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them first hand on Thursday Night Football next week or
next Thursday, Green Bay against the Lions. I will let
you wrap us up as we conclude our Week three recap.
Speaker 3 (49:31):
Yeah, catch us on Thursday Night Football, Prime Video, seven
pm Eastern. Great game versus the Detroit Lions and the
Green Bay Packers from Lambeau. But I can't wait. This
week we had obviously the San Francisco forty nine ers
won this Thursday. I was there. Great game. Christian McCaffrey through.
You know, he did his thing, looking like an MVP candidate.
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The defense played really well, Tylanoah Hufanga. You had your
boy Nicholas John both of the reigning defensive player to
get got him a sack. Rock Perty got his eighth
win in a row in the regular season undefeated. Another
two touchdown performance for him. But you can catch us
next week. We're gonna have a guest soon. We're gonna
have as a guest in a couple of days. Stay tuned,
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Speaker 2 (01:44):
Don't fop Bowl Championship. That should always do the expectation,
All right, man, ex you go ahead.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast. It's week three, Mitchell,
and already some colossal surprises, Richard.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Where should we start?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
There was a lot of.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Surprise, rich.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I can hold it.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Just just take it away, rich Just Arizona.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Who would a funk it?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Because I promise you Vegas wasn't thinking it. Vegas lost
money today, Buddy, that's for damn.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Sure, Mitchell.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Anybody who betted on the Dallas Cowboys Vegas is they're
loving it, Mitchell, because Dallas was the favorite. And I'm
sure nobody bet on the Arizona Cardinals to cover right
now if they did, I mean they need to get
a new job as a predictor. I'm sure a lot
of people love to hear their opinions, But my goodness, Mitchell,
the Dallas Cowboys, they spent the first two weeks, Mitchell,
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they beat up on.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
The the Giants.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Defense playing really well, really well, a lot of sacks,
a lot of chaos, og Ogee Jewela. It was a
lot of people, Oh, Gee, didn't Zua, Ogi, didn't Zua,
something like that. But Mitchell, Micah Parsons was playing phenomenal,
a wrecking games. Trayvon Diggs is getting interceptions, Stefan Gilmore
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is getting interceptions, when Leik Hooker is getting interceptions. All
over the place. Everybody's playing there, but all defensively. I
kept saying, this offense just it's not holding up there
into the bargain. And all I kept hearing from everybody
else was they don't need to The defense is playing
so well, they don't need to show up yet. It's
it's not their fault. They're they're in blowouts. They don't
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need to act all. They don't need to put up
big points or put up big yards. Dak is just
doing what he needs to do to win these games.
But it just doesn't look right, guys, it just doesn't
look right. Doesn't look like they're an efficient offense. When
I look at the San Francisco forty nine ers, I
see an efficient offense. Regardless of what the score, if
it's close, if it's a blowout, I know they're gonna
move the ball down the field. They're likely gonna score
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in the red zone. I watched the Miami Dolphins. They're
gonna move the ball down the field. They're likely going
to score in the red zone. I watched the Kansas
City Chiefs. They're gonna move the ball down the field.
They're likely going to score in the red zone. The
Philadelphia Eagles, once they figured out, hey they're putting the
top on the defense or not, they're not gonna let
Jalen Hurts and all day always open. AJ Brown and
Devontae Smith. Just take the top off the defense. They're
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gonna make you run it.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Well.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Then they ran for two hundred and fifty yards and
did the same thing everybody else did. But with the
Dallas Cowboys, they getting the red zone. They don't score
a lot of points offensively, they don't score a lot
of points. The defense always has to break the game open.
And this time, give Josh Gannon a lot of credit, Mitchell,
because he knows this Dallas Cowboys team, he knows their tendencies,
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he knows Jack Prescott, and he kept him in check
the entire game, the entire game to the tune of
sixteen points.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Mitchell.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I think it was only one touchdown. One touchdown with
some guys on defense that you cannot name, Mitchell, some
guys that showed up a couple of weeks Mitchell. And
and then you're missing your best defensive player in Buddha Baker.
Now because you're white, played a phenomenal game. He was
all over the place. Give him all the credit in
the world. I don't want to take anything away from
Arizona Cardinals. Josh Dobbs big runs, big passes when they
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needed them, James Connor ran the ball. The offensive line
for the Arizona Cardinals played really well.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
It was.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
It was a good game overall by them, and their
offensive coordinator called a really good game. So you you
I don't want to take anything from them. So let's
let's not get it confused. I'm not trying to say
that Arizona Cardinals didn't play well. But Dallas is supposed
to be a Super Bowl favorite this year. Arizona Cardinals
were supposed to pick top five, top three, really but
top five, Mitchell, nobody expected this result. Dak Prescott got
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to the red zone one for five, an interception and
a four and out inside the five, both of them
to Cede Lamb. Well all three because he threw a
few incompletions to ceede Lamb when they need to have him.
One time they kick ended up kicking field goal. Michael
Parsons got a sack. But this Arizona Cardinals offensive line
isn't renowned, so they should have more than two sects.
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But it seems like people are starting to figure out
how to block him. He had a lot of one
on ones, Mitchell. You could hear throughout the broadcast. Hey,
they're leaving Michael Parsons one on one, telling these guys
they got a hard down. Now he puts some pressure
on on Josh Dobbs, and Josh was able to avoid
to get the ball out.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
But my god, this is.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
A disaster, Richard. Josh Dobbs only threw four incompletions all game.
I mean, I know you're gonna be talking a lot
this week about the Dallas Cowboys and their renowned number
one overall defense. But God bless it the Arizona Cardinals,
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rich they got it done and they looked good last
week too. But as an Arizona fan base tanking for
Caleb Williams and having another pick from the Houston Texans
when both the Arizona Cardinals and the Houston Texans win,
that might be tough. As an Arizona Cardinal fan rooting
for Caleb Williams. Rich But I'll say this, Dallas is
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not whoever one thinks they are. They got still worse
to do. And to your point, Richard, when you left
the Seattle Seahawks and moved a little bit south to
the San Francisco forty nine ers, you told me, I
like their coaching staff, I like what they're building. I
looked at you like you were freaking crazy, because I'm
pretty sure the San Francisco forty nine ers were last
in the division the year prior. And he said, Mitch,
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they got something brewing. I trust you with your instincts,
and I trust you with the Dallas Cowboys offense, because
you're right about that. They have not been tested this
year and they're about to be tested going forward. Trevon
Diggs goes down during practice with an ACL injury.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Richard.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
That is terrible, especially in practice on what was it
a Wednesday or a Thursday?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Richard.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
How much do you think that had to do with
this outcome today?
Speaker 2 (08:02):
A lot? A lot.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
You lose one of your best players, a leader on
your defense, an emotional leader. You looked at the training
camp battles with him and Dak going at it and
all the headlines that that made. He was he was making,
he was growing, he was blossoming as a leader of
this defense and as somebody who set the tone for
this defense along with obviously Michael Parsons. But its shell
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shocks you, similar to when the Jets lost Aaron Rodgers,
except they lost him on game day, so at least
the Dallas Cowboys had a couple of days to kind
of like deal with the loss, to probably comfort comfort him,
to try to talk to him, to try to mentally,
you know, because people don't understand there's a mental emotional
toll to lose in one of your teammates, especially a
teammate that is that valuable to what you do and
(08:47):
your plans going forward, that it changes people's livelihoods, you
know what I mean, It changes the trajectory of seasons.
You know, he's that caliber of player, and he has
been in the National Football League, and now now you
have to find a way now only to try to
fill the void, just positionally, like somebody else has to
play the corner on the on the right side or
the offenses left. But in terms of like everything, all
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the intangibles that he brought to the table, and he's
an incredible person, incredible teammate. You saw he would the
defense look totally different. They look totally befuddled without him.
There were a lot of holes that you know, in
the run game, they didn't have answers in a past game,
they didn't have answers. And Joshua Dobbs was very efficient,
Like I don't think he has that kind of game
which Rayvon Dig's playing. I don't highly doubt it. So
(09:34):
there is an emotional toll to that. But Mitchell, the
part that I didn't understand is I was there were
Dallas Cowboy fans all in the mentions Mitchell saying, oh
you got him too. You're you're dumb, You don't you
don't watch football, You don't understand football. I don't watch,
I don't understand. No, I do watch, and I fully understand.
(09:55):
I'm not being biased like the San Francisco fort Niners.
I have a little bit of by, but I don't
need to be with what they're putting on tape. They're
putting good film on tape both sides.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Of the ball.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
There's balanced there what the Dallas Cowboys were doing. We're
putting a lot of good, great phenomenal things on tape. Defensively,
I saw things that were sustainable defensively. I saw things
that were not sustainable offensively, and that would get them
in trouble if they ever got in the game where
they were behind, and they were behind from the beginning
of this game until the clock struck zero, Mitchell and
(10:26):
they could not come back because Mike McCarthy is not
a good play caller.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
He's not.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
There's the reason nobody calls him to call plays. There's
a reason why he shouldn't be calling plays. Everybody was
complaining about Kellen Moore. Wasn't throwing when he should be throwing.
He was running when he should be throwing. He was
throwing when he should be running. Kellen Moore is out
there with Justin Herbert living the best life. I ain't
going back and forth with you. I'm living my best life.
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He was forty for forty seven, four hundred yards, four touchdowns.
They were out there throwing the ball all.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Over the yard.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
And you got Dallas cowboy fans who when he was
eighty five percent in the red zone last year, complaining
that he's not doing a good job.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Well, guess what.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Now, you're one and five in the red zone in
a game against the Arizona Cardinals and then throwing interceptions.
You couldn't score in the red zone. You couldn't score
from far. You can move the ball down the field,
but you couldn't get it too the Promised Land.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
And now what do you say, Well, Mike McCarthy's terrible.
We all knew that. We've been watching him. We knew that.
That's why when he came, Jerry Jones like no, no, no, no, no,
no no, no, Kellen. Kellen's gonna call the place.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
But he must have convinced Jerry like, hey, I'm coaching
for my life, I gotta call the shots.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Well, Jerry, you might need to call Dion or get
dan q.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
DQ started in the fold and start writing them contracts, baby,
because this is gonna end the same way it always do.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Well.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
They got a tough matchup next weekendst the Pats Rich.
I know you're gonna be talking about these cowboys all
week mm hmm.
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Speaker 1 (12:59):
Let's take it to your neck of the woods, though, Rich, Seattle,
they beat up, they beat the Panthers. I mean, I
don't know what's to be expected of the Panthers. Andy
Dalton at the hell on this game? They needed this game.
Seattle's two to one. Now what your thoughts on this game?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Rich Mitchell? My thoughts your boy? Kenneth Walker the third
showing up again came another week two TDS.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
You saw him in the past game.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
You saw him in a run game Gino through for
almost three hundred Mitchell, Oh, it was it was just
it was here and then it was there, and then
you had Dkpile Copile on the run side on GENA.
Like Mitchell, it looked good, but it still was a
close game. But then you look up and you're like,
who are they missing? Defensively, Reek is missing Mitchell, Jamal
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Adam's supposed to come back. Offensively, they're still missing both tackles.
Charles Cross potentially coming back next week. Abe Lucas is
still on IR So for them to be able to
do this undermanned was impressive. People are not giving the
Carolina Panthers a lot of respect because of who you know,
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obviously they got a poor, poor roster. You know, not
a lot of names, known names. But Andy Dalton can
still slang it. He can still move the football, throw
the football around the yard, and he showed it again.
They would have been better off going against Bryce Young
because at least you got a young guy who hasn't
seen these looks before. Andy Dalton. He get out there,
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he say, hey, young, gona let me throw it. I'm
gonna get three fifty four hundred out of this, and
he did. He was able to move the ball around
and them. Thieland had a really good game, another veteran.
They found some holes in the defense. They attacked the
rookie spoon. He got some good learning lessons this week
playing on the outside, playing a lot of snaps because
Reek was out. But they looked good. I think this
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was a really good game play calling from Hurt. I'm
sure there were things they want to clean up, things
they can execute better.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
I thought.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Offensively, Shane Waldron put on a clinic, absolute clinic, being dynamic,
creative with what they did offensively, moving people around. How
he got Kenneth Walker the ball in space. Jaron reied
this was a good game for him one and a
half sacks. It just always feels good to get in
a link. And then it was a great game for
the twelves. Twelves, Mitchell, when I stopped, when I stopped,
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count Mitchell, there were eight off side I mean false
star penalties.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
The record is eleven. They were trying to close in
on the record.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
They were rattling them boys and egerro Ever Roll, the
defensive coordinator for the Carolina Panthers, was out there doing
a lot, a lot with a little and we're gonna
talk about him a little later in the show.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Well, Richard, the Seattle Seahawks get another I don't want
to call it easy game, but it's looking pretty damn
easy on the prime time Monday NAY football against the
Giants next week. Could we be looking at three and one,
you think.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Rich Mitchill, We could easily be looking at three and one.
You can easily look at three and one, And what's crazy, Mitchell?
For the Dallas Cowboys, we could easily be looking at
two and two.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
And if that happens, whoa, whoa? Because the.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Blueprint is out there, Mitchell, what do you gotta do
to beat the Dallas Cowboys? As my guy Mike Irvin says,
you gotta be physical. You gotta be physical. Run the
ball down their throats until they stop you. They ran
for one hundred and eighty five yards in the first half.
The Arizona car News did one hundred and eighty five. Mitchell,
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you think Bill Belichick isn't sitting there like we got
a few of those runs. We got a few things
we can do with that. Hey, we may not push
the ball down the field as much we may. You know,
every week is different for New England Patriots. But defensively,
I know exactly what they're gonna do. They're gonna take
away CD LAMB. They're gonna make every everybody else beat them,
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and they're gonna stop the run, and they're gonna say, Dak,
good luck, your card.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Noir Baby.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Richard the other game I've been anxious to talk about
because we just had him on the podcast earlier this week,
your boy, your former team teammate Raheem Moster, the Miami
Dolphins seventy points, rich seventy to twenty against the Denver Broncos,
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(17:51):
rich against these Broncos. Last year's defense would not have
given up four touchdowns, but this year's defense, Hey, here's
the end zone. Enjoy it, Richard, your thoughts on Raheem Moster,
your boy. Eighty two rushing yards, seven receptions sixty yards.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
What do you have?
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Four?
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Five tuddies?
Speaker 2 (18:11):
What Mitchell I thought?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Oprah must have been out there because it was like,
you get a touchdown, you'll get a touchdown. You get
a touchdown when you will get a touchdown, Mitchell. Two players,
not just one, not just haym Heim had four touchdown
heck of a game. He but Devon or cain at
Caine eighteen rushes two three two rushing touchdowns, four receptions
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thirty yards and two receiving touchdown. Mitchell, that's four as well.
And then you throw in the guy you gotta beat
that has you like this all game, and that's Tyreek Hill.
He has your stress, Mitchell, he has your stress, and
he already had a touchdown, but he had he had
nine catches for one fifty seven in a tug but
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heam was doing it every which way. Seven catches for
sixty yards, nine thirteen rushes for eighty two yard in
three touchdowns on the ground, Mitchell, what's concerning. The most
concerning thing about this is people are gonna blame Russell
for this, and it's not his part. He played a
pretty good game. He played a pretty good game. You
have to touchdown. He turned it over once, but I
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mean he threw for three hundred Some of those were
garbage time yards. But he played a pretty solid game.
This is one of his better games as a Denver Bronco.
But it's the thing that always happens, Mitchell. When you
get one side playing great, other side folds. Last year
he didn't play so great, and he let the defense
down multiple times over and over.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
This year he's playing good.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
The defense is letting him down in a major way, Mitchell,
in a major way. And I like Sean Payton. I
really like Sean Payton. He was a friend. We have
good conversations. But during training camp he showed the video
of the Bronco driving off the cliff, and it ended
up being way more symbolic than it needed. Mitchell, it
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was supposed to be last year's Broncos. That's this year's
Broncos mentell off the cliff because last year's Broncos didn't
start ohing three.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
They were two to one, battling.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Every week they were battling, whether they won by one point,
lost byt point. It was a dog fight every week.
They lost multiple games by one score. You know, they
lost a bunch of one score games, probably like five
or six of them. They got blown out one time
in the season against the Rams. It was I think
it was fifty one to fourteen. That was thirty seven
point a blowout. But they didn't never get beat by fifty, Mitchell.
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They did not get beat by fifty. They did not
get seventy points put up on them at any time.
When when seventy points get put up, I apologize for
defensive to defensive coordinator advanced Joseph.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
But heads got a roll.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Somebody got to go, Mitchell, seventy points with that talented
of a defense, you got the best corner in the
National Football League, justin Simmon is one of the best
safeties in the National Football League. You got Randy Gregory,
you got talent on that defensive line. DJ Jones you got.
So it's not like you're sitting there with with the
Arizona Cardinals roster, with the Carolina Panthers roster, where it's like, hey,
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they just don't have the guys. They don't have the playmakers,
They don't have the guys to get this done. They
have the guys, and so that's concerning. But another thing
is Sean Payton said some things about to a tongue
of Iloa that he may not have proved of Mitchell.
They said he said in a couple games, they probably
gonna replace him with Teddy Bridgewater, like they probably be
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better off playing with Teddy Bridgewater. Well, guess what he
hurt you and then he shreded your defense. He didn't
throw it in completion, I think until the second half.
He was seventeen to seventeen before he threw it in
completion and ended up twenty three of twenty six for
three h nine, four touchdowns, one hundred and fifty five
point eight passer rating. Mitchell on twenty six passes one
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hundred and fifty eight is perfect, my goodness, Like he
can't throw the ball in his backyard and have that
much perfection. He can't go routes on air and make
it look that good. And then you got chosen Anderson,
who get in with my boy Mike White, And.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Then they go for another one.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Like they kneeled the ball when they could have went
for the record. But I don't want to hear it
about Russell Wilson in this week, Mitchell, and are these
games He's actually played some pretty solid football.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
The defense has played. I'm trying to find the word.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Porus awful, horrendous, horrendous like it's been. It's been really bad.
And they have too many good players to play this bad.
And so you go from each row Evere who's now
with Carolina Panthers, who's probably gonna get a head coaching
job soon, to Vance Joseph who has who has coordinated
some really good defenses in the past with the Rams,
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He's coordinated the Super Bowl defense before.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
But what he's doing right now, we'll get whoa, We'll
get him sent home.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
And Sean Payton has to be shivering in his in
his boots because he talks so bad about Nathaniel Hackett,
and you can't Nathaniel Hackett at this point of the season.
Last year was two and one, was two and one.
So if you're gonna sit there and talk about a
guy that's two and one and you're on three and
just got beat by fifty, you'll likely get your first
win next week against the Bears. You'll likely get it,
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but you still got a tough rover after that. I
think you got the Bears and then Kansas City, and
if you let Andy Reid is gonna be looking at
that like, hey, he let Miami put up seventy Yup.
Miami's a great team with a great offense. But he's like,
we can do it too. In there in there in
they're in Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I believe. Oh man, Mitchell, I think I might be
at that game? Is that Thursday game? It's that Thursday game.
It might be a Thursday game, Mitchell. It might be
the one I'm at. Mitchell, Oh my god, Mitchell, I
think it's the one I'm at.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Are you gonna witness at first hand?
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Rich?
Speaker 1 (23:46):
There's a couple other things here.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Rich.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
If you're living in Colorado and right now and you're
a fan of the Colorado Buffs and the Denver Broncos.
It's been a rough weekend for you. We're sorry, Richard.
Let me break down these seventy points scored for you
real quick. It's the most scored in an NFL game
since nineteen sixty six, right, nineteen. Teams in the NFL
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thus far the season havn't scored seventy points combined on
the year, Richard, this looked like a high school game.
This looks like your standard high school game, right, Like
who's going to let off the gas pedal first?
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Right?
Speaker 1 (24:28):
And the coach just finally says, hey, you know what,
enough's enough, Let's put in the third stringers. This game
was consistency, quarter after quarter after quarter after quarter. Miami Dolphins,
they look legit, rich Tua toungua i Looa looks legit.
Rich Is is he a true, true, true MVP candidate
(24:50):
right now?
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Or is this an overreaction, Mitchell, Unless you somebody's speaking
about a game that's other than football, you better put
him in it. I mean, because at first it was like, oh,
you know, he's got he's got tyer Reek and Tarik's
doing it. And Tarik had a pretty good game, but
he threw four touchdown passes.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
He threw in the two backs. He was out here
looking like my homes with a flick.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
I think they put that in just so he can
make one look sexy because he did it twice. No
look have that have that? And the young kid, Devon A. Kane,
I may be saying his name wrong.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
I apologize with Devon A Chain, rich A Chain A chain,
Devon A Chain went off and I can't wait to
argue with Skip about it because I'm gonna use the
name Devon H Chain because you talk about Tony Pyler,
you talk about Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
I'm not gonna put him in there. He's more like
a Devon ah Shane. But he's not even there because
Devon A Change probably has Tony Pollard's full season stats
in that one game.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
And it's looking crazy. Mentell, it's starting to sound crazy.
Am I crazy? Might be crazy?
Speaker 1 (25:53):
You're not crazy. I'm crazy because I dropped Von a
Chain for my fantasy roster going into this weekend. Rich
Can you believe that fifty five Fantasy points in PPR
for Devon A Chain Richard? Let's move on, hey, before
we move on that whole segment. The Dolphins made it
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Speaker 1 (26:42):
Rich All right, let's let's move it down, Richard, I
am scared. I'm not gonna lie. Let's go to Green Bay.
I'm scared. I was in Ford Field all day today.
I saw on the scoreboard the New Orleans Saints up
seventeen to nothing, and I said, okay, we're good. The Lions,
the NFC North is ours. There's nothing to worry about here.
(27:05):
But by god, Jordan Love makes a huge comeback. Rich
How real is Jordan Love? Eighteen to seventeen looked legitimate,
looked legitimate.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
He had his young guy moments where he missed some
wide open passes that Lafloor drew up. He's drawn up
a really good game plan for the kid. Their defense
is playing well. Where Shaun Gary three sacks, Kenny Clark
had a sack, Romeo Dobbs had a really incredible catch.
So I mean he looks the part. He looked much
(27:39):
better in the when they had to have it, they
had to have a drive, he looked apart. He looked
really good. He executed down a stretch, he ran it
when he had to run it. He was accurate when
he needs to be accurate. And then the Saints blew it.
The Saints blew it more than green Bay wanted, but
green Bay got the win. They put gre Derek Carr
out the game with a shoulder injury, but they came.
(28:00):
You got to give him credit because that's a really
good defense. The Saints defense is one of the top
defenses in the National Football League. And when Derek Carr
went out, it was like the air went out the balloon.
The air went out, the balloon went out the stadium.
He didn't have They didn't have it, dy board, bitchull.
They they lost momentum and the Packers took it and
(28:21):
ran with it. Their defense got hotter. Jamis Woodson couldn't
put together a drive until they ended the game. He
put together a decent drive to get him in field
goal range, and then they missed the field goal. That
was the heartbreaker. They missed the field goal. But they're
still missing JayR Alexander and obviously Aaron Jones Christian Watkins
who was their big play guy. So you got to
give him credit. You got to give him credit. They
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played really well. But I think it's gonna be a
really good divisional game next week that I'm gonna be at. Menchell,
You're gonna be at in the stands, and I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
I can't wait either. I mean, Jordan Love, I think
you're right. I don't want to get too far ahead
of things here. The reality is Derek Carr and this
Saints team had this game locked and loaded. I was
a little surprised because Vegas was pretty heavy on the
Saints going into this game. In fact, they were favored
going into this game, and sure shit, the Packers pulled
it off. Jordan Love, you know, doing his thing that
(29:14):
he's respectable, Let's just put it that way.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Right, He's above respectable. He played a pretty decent.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Game, very much so I think the Packers are a
threat in this NFC. But more needs to be done.
More needs to be done. But Richard, this is the
largest comeback in Packer's history, down seventeen to nothing in
the fourth, so that that's something that we should mention here.
Jordan Love was at the helm, not Brett Favre, not
Aaron Rodgers and Richard. Last last week when we were
(29:44):
on this podcast, I breathed a sigh of relief because
I thought Jordan Love was not that guy, did not
have the clutch ging Today he did. So let's let's
keep an eye out for the pack We're going to
be watching them on Thursday night.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Richard.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Let's keep it the division though, because Minnesota at home
in a must win game. They've won all the eleven
and zer last year in one possession games. Rich They're
oh in three to start the season. Los Angeles Chargers
get the dub twenty eight to twenty four. Your thoughts
on this game.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Well, first off, Justin Jefferson was one yard away from,
you know, being breaking another record I believe for his
age and this point in his career. But it just
it's just unfortunate because Kirk Cousins, just like Russell Wilson,
is gonna get blamed for this game. And Kirk Cousins
played a really solid game. He got the heck beat
out of him. Mitchell, they were all they were hitting
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him left and right, Joey Bosa, Khalil Mack, they were
they were getting after him, whether he had the ball
or didn't have the ball. And then I mean their
defense didn't want to stop anybody. Well, like we said earlier,
Justin Herbert with Kellen Moore at the Helm was forty
for forty seven four five, three touchdowns, no interception, one
hundred and twenty three point eight passer rating. You cannot
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do better than that. Second to Peyton Manning at this
point in his career all time, keenan Allen turning back.
If I could turn turn back the hands of time,
my dollar and you Mitchell, he turned back the hands
of time. Menchell eighteen catching for two point fifteen career highs.
(31:27):
He's setting career highs in year. It's got to be
twelve year, twelve setting career highs. That's what That's what
happened in a great quarterback, and he had a good quarterback.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
He had a really good.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Quarterback and Philip rivers for a long time, but he's
breaking records with Herbie. And then you got Mike Williams
had a nice breakout game, some incredible catches seven for
one to twenty one in a tug. But again, the
injury bug keeps creeping in, keeps creeping in. That's why
they drafted a receiver in the first round. Joey Bosa
had a good game, Kenneth Murray had an interception, but
(31:59):
Kirk Cousin and Justin Jefferson just wasting away with no
defense to be had. And my god, Brandon Stay might
have the most luck ever because he made a bonehead
decision and survived it. Made a bonehead decision and still
got to win. If they would have lost this game, Mitchell,
I don't know if he would have. I don't know
if he would have made it all the way home
before they pulled the plug on the Brandon Stay experiment.
(32:21):
And I don't know if it's I still don't think
it's he's out of hot water. Yet clearly they're one
and two and got a long world ahead of him.
They got the Raiders next week. And the Raiders, I mean,
they got a solid team. They can get it done.
But will Kirk Cousins even be there next week. Will
the will the Minnesota Vikings finally say hey, this season
(32:42):
is lost. We got to get a quarterback next year
in the first round. We may as well trade our
first rounder. I mean trade for the Jets first rounder.
While we got Kirk, We're not going to resign him.
We'd rather get him first rounder for him than lose
him for nothing. I mean, they could franchise him, but
I would imagine Kirk has the non franchise clause in
his contract, seeing has he got franchised three times before.
(33:04):
But it's just they don't look like a good team
and they get bullied. Seven fumbles and the fumbles.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
TJ.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Hockinson just got the ball taking from him early in
the game. First driving the game, maybe first or second drive.
They threw it to him and the guy just took
the ball from him. It was like he caught the
ball and was like, Hey, let me have this real quick.
I'm gonna take it over here to this sideline. And
it's just like, like, have some pride about yourself. You
just got paid seventeen million dollars, You're the highest paid
tight end national Football League. Now you can't just get
the ball taken from you. He had a solid game,
(33:31):
but Kirk Cousins deserves better. I wish him and the
Jets could get united. That's a pipe dream, but maybe
it can happen.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
What's that song, rich wasting away again in Margaritaville?
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Is that right? That sounds right?
Speaker 1 (33:44):
How about we changed the wasting away again in Minneapolis?
Because Richard, Justin Jefferson, Richard Justin Jefferson, is this primo
one of one, A unicorn, if you will, A one
of one? Richard? I do not want the same career
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trajectory that I saw with Calvin Johnson here in Detroit,
where he was that unicorn of his generation, of his
decade that just never was able to see that championship
potential because of the folks around him. And I love
me some Kirk Cousins. I'm a Michigan State fan. I
don't think he's the problem. Rich I think this goes
(34:27):
a lot deeper than Kirk Cousins. I think he is
a true, bona fide starter in this league. But Richard,
we saw it with Calvin Johnson and Matt Stafford for
a better part of a decade. Right, are we looking
at the same career trajectory for Justin Jefferson unless mine
in Minnesota gets this shit together.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Yeah, I mean we are mettell he wants to get paid,
and he wants to get paid at a high level,
and he should be, but I'm not sure he really
wants to get paid in Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
I wouldn't want to.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
I mean, you can get paid in place where you
got a chance to win, because when they get rid
of Kirk Cousins, everybody in Minnesota's like, oh, yeah, we
can't wait. We're gonna get so much better. Honestly, there's
not a lot better than that. The ones that are
better than that, nobody would trade like you got beyond that.
It's Mahomes, It's it's Josh Allen, It's Burrow, it's I
(35:25):
mean now it's too a tongue of Ailoa, It's it's Herbert.
Those are the guys that aren't getting moved. So you think, kye,
somebody's gonna come in and save you.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Kirk Cousins is a.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Really good NFL quarterback, but he's not one that can
do it all by hisself. He can throw for four
hundred yards and moving offense down the field, maybe you
want to might want to protect him a little better,
a little better offensive line. But you need a defense,
and he would have one in New York. Just in
case I don't make it home tonight. Can you just
trade Kirk Cousins to the Jets for He's baby, Hey, Hey, hey, hey,
(36:03):
just trading Mitchell. He don't even need to get in
his car. They got closed there. There's a lot of
shopping in New York. He don't got to pack a bag.
They will have his equipment there. You don't got to
leave the stadium. You need to learn to play book.
But Kirk, get to New York by any means. I
don't care if you got to walk in there and
stump it. Get me to New York now, asap, because
they're gonna respect you. You play like you do right
now for Minnesota Vikings throwing for three hundred three fifty
(36:25):
a game in New York in that big market, your
payday is going to be massive, Kirk.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
You're gonna pay you like your top five.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Get Kirk Cousins to the Jets asap, pronto. Heysap Richard
the Kansas City Chiefs for the beat down on the Bears.
I don't really necessarily want to talk about this game.
I want to talk about the bigger part of this game, Richard,
(36:54):
the game within the game.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
If you will, all right, talk.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
To me, Taylor Swift, is this a real thing? Rich
Come on now, traviss Kelsey, Taylor Swift, come on, you're
you're you're insight on this relationship.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Mitchell.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
I don't put a lot of stock into TMZ rumors
and all the ying yang and all the nonsense. Even
Tony asked the question when we were in uh Philly
to his brother Jason Kelsey. It was like, hey, it's
it real, and he was like, hey, you know, he
kept it pretty close to the vest, played it pretty
pretty well. But when you look into that to that booth, Mitchell,
you look into that suite and see her going crazy,
(37:34):
Like Mitchell, I don't know if she was a Kansas
City fan before you know she started dealing with Travis Kelsey.
But when he scored that touchdown, Mitchell, there was a
lot of excitement there, Mitchell, I, don't You don't see
that kind of excitement very often. There's a lot of
wives that aren't that excited when their husbands have that
level of success, and and Travis has been doing it
a long time. So for her to have that level
(37:55):
of excitement, it's just you know, maybe it's it's doing
something for him. Maybe it's an experience she hasn't been
through before. Mitchell, bet because I just saw a different
kind of enthusiasm there, Mitchell enthused.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
You think she was more excited about that touchdown or
the fact that he finished with sixty nine receiving yards.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Rich, Mitchell, a little bit of both.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Mitchell, Let's get let's get to the game.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Rich.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
I mean, we got to talk a little bit about
Justin Fields because at this point in time, eleven of
twenty two, he can't even eclipse one hundred yards. Rich,
He's ninety nine yards passing a Tuddy an interception, eleven
rushing yards forty seven eleven rushes for forty seven yards.
How worried are you about Justin Fields.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
I'm incredibly worried because he's really it seems like he
was great talent at Ohio State, but you know the
Ohio State curse of quarterbacks that never do anything. I mean,
we just talked to TJ. Stroud is the first Ohio
State quarterback to throw for over three hundred and eighty
yards in a game ever in history of a game,
and Ohio State has been put in quarter backs in
the league for a long time. You don't know if
it's a chicken or the egg. You don't know if
(39:03):
it's it's the offensive coordinator in the team, because they
absolutely are abysmal offensively. Their scheme is abysmal. They're not
calling great pays. You look on the tape, there aren't
there are open guys at times that he's missing. So
when he's not missing the open guys that are right
there in front of him, there aren't open guys. So
it's it's definitely looking like a failed experiment. It's looking
(39:24):
like a bus potential, which is frustrating to see because
sometimes you get in the right situation. Would he have
been thrived under Kyle Shanahan and that offense, would his
career trajectory be different?
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Probably, But he's not.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
In that scheme and he's not in there, and he's
not doesn't seem like he's being well coached, so he's
running into issues and it doesn't look like it's going
to work out. It looks like they're going to be
picking top two, top three in a draft with this
if this keeps up, and do they pass on Caleb
Williams if he's available.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
I do not think they do. You can't, you can't.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
And Richard in this game, Patrick mahomes the fastest player
in NFL history twenty five thousand passyards. This is the
Steph Curry of our generation here in the NFL. Rich
Patrick Mahomes doing it on all levels. Andy Reid passes
Tom Landry for fourth most wins in NFL history. I
don't think he's stopping anytime soon, either. Rich a shell
(40:17):
shocker in the NFL. Outside of your Dallas Cowboys and
Arizona Cardinals situation, we had another one. Indianapolis goes on
the road and beats the Baltimore Ravens and ot twenty
two to nineteen. Not a whole lot of folks saw
this coming. I know the weather was a factor, Ravens
had some injuries, but nonetheless, the Colts without Anthony Richardson
(40:42):
go on the road. Get this, dub your thoughts on
this game.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Sometimes the backup is better than the starter, and a
lot of times, especially when you got rookie early draft picks,
you got to go through the learning curves. Not that
they won't be great, not that they won't throw a
mate play amazing, But at this point, I'm sure people
are more scared of Gardner Minshew than they are Anthony Richardson,
because you know he's a rookie. You can throw certain
looks at him, you can just put pressure on him.
That's why I right blitz his rookies. You brock Perdies.
(41:08):
He's not a rookie anymore, but technically he's only started
nine games, ten games or something like that, and so
it's still rookie experience. And so what did they do
last week? That the Giants eighty four percent of the
time they blitzed him. That's und Oh my god. I've
never heard of anybody getting blitzed eighty four percent at
a time, even bad quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
And so.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Similar to Andy Dalton with the Carolina Panthers, I'm sure
that Pete would have loved to face a rookie Bryce
Young and watch him go through his growing pains and
make mistakes because you dealing with an old Cagy chisel veteran.
He's gonna he's gonna go throw the ball around the yard,
but he's gonna know recognize the coverages. He's gonna be
able to punish you. And that's what Gardner Minshew did
(41:48):
h to the tune of twenty seven to forty four
for twenty seven and a touchdown. But they also ran
the ball really well. Zach Mass thirty thirty carries for
one to twenty two. He caught the ball twice for
twenty two yards and a touchdown. And then their defense,
which wasn't bad. Gus Bradley, the well coached defense, four
sacks in the game. They limited Lamar and what he
could do. They ran stunts, they did different things with
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the defensive line, different things with the coverages to make
it very difficult for their receivers. Kyle Hamilton on the
other side, had three sacks by himself. Really good game
for the young kid. But it just wasn't enough. And
Lamar did everything he could do. He threw for two hundred,
he ran for a hunter, but it just wasn't enough
in the end. And the guy that they usually could
depend on, the most reliable, old old reliable, Justin Tucker,
(42:38):
misses a sixty one yarder as time expires, and it's like,
I'm sure the Coats were ready to their coaches were
ready to take their headphones off because Justin Tucker, that's
what he does. He's automatic from that point. But Father
Time is undefeated, and that's what it looked like. I mean,
he was dead straight down the middle and didn't have
the leg. And that's the first time I think we
were ever going to say that Justin Tucker did not
have the leg.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Well Man Hey for the Indianapolis Colts four field goals
over fifty plus yard, so he had the leg, included
the fifty three yard field goal to win the game. Richard,
Indianapolis is two to one. You know, we didn't see
this coming early on this season. They're without Jonathan Taylor
thanks to their amazing ownership group that they we've already
(43:20):
touched on. But this is a team. Maybe this is
a story developing here. Rich Indianapolis Colts two on one,
go on the road, get a huge victory over the
Baltimore Ravens. Rich I know you love the Jets, but
let's let's get real right now. They just lost at
home against the Patriots. What well, what do the Jets
(43:44):
have to do because they have everything that a coach
could possibly want except a quarterback. With Aaron Rodgers going down,
I know you want them to go out and get
Kirk Cousins. How important is it for you as a
player in his prime? You don't want to waste Garrett Wilson,
(44:05):
Sauce Gardner, you know, all these big name players that
they have on both sides of the ball. What do
the Jets have to do now to resurrect this season?
Speaker 2 (44:17):
They have to trade for Kirk. Sorry, Michell, we'll say it.
They have to trade for Kirk Cousins immediately. He immediately
makes them a contender again, even at a one and
two record. They have to do it now so that
he can get acclimated to the city, to the offense.
It's similar that you know, Nathaniel Hackett has similar calls
(44:37):
and and and plays as Kevin O'Connell's offense. They have
a similar scheme, but I'm sure the verbiage may be
a little different. Aaron Rodgers coming from Green Bay, Nathaniel
Hackett coming from green Bay. The verbadge is going to
be different. But they're all from the same tree. Uh So,
I'm sure he'll make it easy. He'll they'll find like
minded concepts and figure it out. But I think he
(44:58):
would immediately upgrade them to a tender and make them
a much more difficult out going forward, he'd make them
a much more difficult team to play going forward. The
next game they have is at the Chiefs. I mean,
they got the Chiefs on Sunday night football, Like that'd
be a great coming out party for Kirk Cousins to
battle the Chiefs with this team because their defense is
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get a battle. But if you run Zach Wilson out
there after the performance he just had, which was really
abysmal at times. They were two for fourteen on third down.
They were one for ten last week on third down,
it just doesn't feel like you give your team the
best chance and you don't inspire confidence. It's hard to
go out there as guys and fight your tails off
when you know you don't have a chance to win
the game, because at the end of the day, the
(45:40):
guy under center is incapable of making it happen, no
matter how much you believe in him, no matter how
much you want him to be better. He didn't throw
any interceptions, so I guess you can celebrate that, But
eighteen for thirty six for one to fifty seven, with
some of those being garbage yards and things like that,
it's just like, I don't feel like you can honestly
feel comfortable with that.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Yeah, I'm Richard. I don't see any positivity coming out
of this Jets fan base. I mean, they were all
hyped up coming in this year, and rightfully so. Aaron
Rodgers supposed to be that guy to take him over,
that take him to the promised land, rich and they
got a very sobering sense of reality four snaps into
(46:20):
the season, and now they just got to figure it
out because there's too much talent on this roster to
have another season waste wasted.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
Richard.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
I was at this game in Detroit. It was a
get back game. The Lions won twenty to six. I
feel pretty confident about the Lions going forward. I don't
know how much time you had to watch the game,
but it was one of those games, rich where they
just never you never had any sense of doubt. And
as a Detroit Lions fan, that's a rarity. And that's
(46:52):
why I think that you know, hey, we might have
some here, rich We're going to be in Lambeau together
next Thursday. Richard, I want to talk about this game
real quick, but I also want your thoughts on that
game on Thursday night, your thoughts on what the Lions
did win in twenty to six against Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
I thought they did a lot of things. Well, you know,
they ran the ball Jamar Gibbs. We heard so so
much about him during training camp and how effective he
was going to be, but you weren't seeing a lot
of them. You know, they were still splitting carries, and
today they let him take the workload.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
He was seventeen rushes for eighty yards. Looked good. Jared
Goff looked pretty solid today.
Speaker 3 (47:31):
He had the one interception that was kind of a
weird throw and weird decision.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
He overthrew it.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
Straight to Jesse Bates, who's one of the best safeties
in the National Football League.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
So go ahead.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
But the way they contained Bjhon Robinson was really impressive
because John Robinson has been running, you know, on everybody.
Everybody ran a rack shop over the Green Bay Packers
last week. He had ten carries for thirty three yards.
This week, which speaks to that defense in their tenacity.
He had four catches for twenty seven yards. Dasmond Ritter
(48:05):
was held in check. You didn't hear a ton from
from the big receivers, and so you gotta get him
on credit. Credit in the world Aiden Hudson two sacks.
He's starting to develop, you know, his game. That defensive
line gets gets going as as the game progresses, they
look legitimate. I could see them winning the game next
week if they can play like they just did well.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
Rich Jamier Gibbs is going to be forced to be
good because they don't really have another backup option outside
of him until until David Montgomery comes back. Jamier Gibbs,
it's his show and Richard we got we got somebody
I think that could be a potential George kittlesque tight
end in this league. And that's Sam Laporta. Hit a
huge first half, another Iowa tight end. Sam Laporta, great
(48:48):
skill catching the ball yards after the catch. He's one
of those guys who just you know, wants contact. And
that's a good for the Lions. You already touched on it.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
TJ.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
Hockinson didn't have the best game. Lions management saw what TJ.
Hockinson was and I was a fan of TJ. Hockinson,
but I never saw him as that that number one
guy that he is now making seventeen plus million a year,
and the Lions elected to trade him and draft somebody
like Samuel Porta. Look out for Samuel Porta the rest
of this year. Guys Richard, you'll be able to see
(49:20):
them first hand on Thursday Night Football next week or
next Thursday, Green Bay against the Lions. I will let
you wrap us up as we conclude our Week three recap.
Speaker 3 (49:31):
Yeah, catch us on Thursday Night Football, Prime Video, seven
pm Eastern. Great game versus the Detroit Lions and the
Green Bay Packers from Lambeau. But I can't wait. This
week we had obviously the San Francisco forty nine ers
won this Thursday. I was there. Great game. Christian McCaffrey through.
You know, he did his thing, looking like an MVP candidate.
(49:53):
The defense played really well, Tylanoah Hufanga. You had your
boy Nicholas John both of the reigning defensive player to
get got him a sack. Rock Perty got his eighth
win in a row in the regular season undefeated. Another
two touchdown performance for him. But you can catch us
next week. We're gonna have a guest soon. We're gonna
have as a guest in a couple of days. Stay tuned,
check us out next episode. Hit the subscribe button if
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