From Olympic Gold to Super Bowl Glory: Willie Gault’s Journey

Olympic sprinter and Super Bowl champion Willie Gault joins The Seano Show to share his incredible journey from small-town Georgia to the world stage. Willie discusses the discipline and mindset that fueled his success in both track and football, as well as his experiences with the Chicago Bears and the U.S. Olympic team. He opens up about overcoming setbacks, the importance of faith and family, and his passion for lifelong fitness.

 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
No, you only get one body in this life. If
you take care of it while you're young, it'll probably
take care of you when you get older. Okay, I
was in the Summer Olympics. I wanted to be in
the Winter Olympics also, So I said, okay, what can
I do? I looked at all the Winter Olympic events.
I couldn't skate, I couldn't play hockey, I couldn't speed skate.
So I said, well, I can run fast and push
him jump in a hole. Old for good life, So

(00:20):
there's buff setting. I'm never too old to learn, and
I'm willing to let my ego not be there to
be able to be better, be a better person.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Today on the Sino Show, we've got a living legend,
an athlete who's done what most people can only dream of.
Olympic sprinter, super Bowl champion, world record holder, He's proved
himself on the track, on the field, in life far
beyond sports. Willie Gault is it just about speedy. He's
about resilience, reinvention and excellence at the highest level. From

(00:55):
wearing the red, white and Blue on the world stage
to hosting the Lombardi Trophy. History worries about chasing greatness
and never slowing down. Willie, it's an honor to have
you on the show. Brother, Thank you, well, thank you,
my friend. It's my person to be here. It's always good.
It's good to see you outside of the gym. Now, yeah,
so you know it's it's good to see outside of

(01:15):
the gym. And my god, what a story. And let's start.
Let's tell you you were born in Georgia.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yes, born in Georgia, small town called Griffin, Georgia. It's
about thirty miles south of Atlanta, Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
And when did you realize, you know, I'm pretty fast?

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Well, it was probably in the first grade. My first grade,
we had this little gym where we had to go
outside and run. It was a circle. We had to
run around the circle. Well, I was faster than the
first grade, second grade and third grade kids, so I
could have run everybody. And at that point I saw
the new round was pretty fast.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
And what were your parents like, good folks. Tell us
about a little bit about your life, a little bit
grown up. Well, loving father was great. My mother was
actually runner, so I'll probably get my speed from her.
She ran with Wyam the Ties back in the day.
But no, no Olympics any day. My dad played semi
pro baseball. But my sister I have to give her
all the credit.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
She was amazing. She was really fast and I chased
her most of my my challengehood. I was trying to
keep up with her. She was really fast. Well.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
And did you start training early on in your life
or was it just like you played football you played
different sports or when did you actively start training.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
I've been running for all my life since I since
the first grade, I've been running again. Like I said,
my sister was an amazing fast running matter of fact,
she played a power to play football game in high school.
She ran for over four hundred yards and six touchdown
no work attack. So I started running all my life
in athletics. I played baseball when I was first coming up,

(02:51):
starting like in pee wee league, and and then I
started playing football. Played football one year and then I
didn't play again into high school my sophomore year. Played
three years of high school sophomore, junior. Then I got recruited,
of course, got a scholarship at the University of Tennessee,
and the rest of the start of history. Well, I

(03:13):
chose Tennessee. I had my choice to go just about
anywhere around the country. I chose Tennessee because it was
close to home. It's three hours away from my home.
But they had a great track program, and I one
of my criterias for going to college was that I've
had to run track in the spring and play football
in the fall. So when I talked to coaching Majors,
who was the coach of the Tennessee I said, Coach,

(03:35):
I like Tennessee. I'll come, but i'll I'll only come
under one condition that in the spring I can run track.
Because I ran and I was really fast, and I
don't want to play play play football in the spring,
and I want to play for spring football. He said, okay.
So my first year, my very first catch in Tennessee
was was a touchdown, a six nine yard touchdown in
football field. Yeah. Great. So once the season was over,

(03:58):
I knocked on the coach's door. He said, come here.
So I came here, I said, coach. I said, hey, Willie,
how are you doing? Said coach, Well, remember our deal.
I said, I wouldn't run, I wouldn't play football in
the spring. I want to run truck. He said, see
you in the fall. And he upheld his agreement and
I ran track. I made the Olympic team my first year,
and you know, I had a pretty good career.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Talk about playing at Tennessee. What was that like for you?
I mean, it must have been incredible experience for you.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Well. One of the main reasons I chose Tennessee also
is that when I went on my recruiting trip, they
had like ninety six thousand people in this stand. I
mean my whole I was from a town called Griffin, Georgia.
It's probably twenty thousand people, thirty thousand people, so I'd
never seen that many people in my life, so it
was exciting. They played major football, They threw the ball
a little bit. They had a great track team. That
truck team that won the SEC championship I think like

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seventeen times in a row, so I knew they had
a great track team. So I thought it was really
really exciting for me to go far way from home
but yet close enough to get away. It was close
enough for my family to come and see me, which
was important. And I just loved the orange and the
stadium was huge, and the people were really nice and friendly,
and it was it was a great opportunity and a

(05:07):
great atmosphere for me to play big time college football
and also to run on a big time track program.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, and you had some pretty extraordinary runs on that college.
I'd either kind of legendary your touchdown returns over there, huh.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yes, I actually tied the NCAA record for kickoff returns
for touchdown and overall kickoff and punk returns. I think
I was. I think I said an sec I mean
an NCAA record at a total of six. And I
ran for some big returns back like from ls LSU
and then Wisconsin in the Garden State Bowl, and yeah
against Pittsburgh, and I think I had over two hundred

(05:46):
years almost three hundred years of total offense against a
Vanderbilt right to a kickoff returnment and a punt return
for testdown and a loan catch. So I had a
pretty good career at Tennessee. Yeah, you had an extraory.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
I mean you're very humble, but there's some of those
runbacks are legendary. They're quite powerful. Let me ask you this.
You strike me as a very disciplined person. Have you
always been disciplined?

Speaker 1 (06:07):
I've always been disciplined. I mean it starts from my
mom and dad, because they taught me at a very
early age that I have to be responsible for my actions.
I was very motivated. I'm not sure I got that
from my mom and dad, I think, and of course
God given talent. But I was always motivated. I always
set goals. And I never smoked, never drink, never done
drugs in my life because I made it early on

(06:28):
when I was probably not even a teenager, that I
wouldn't do it, and because it wouldn't help me. I
thought it wouldn't. I was very philosophical back there. I thought, Okay,
if I smoke, it's not going to help me. It's
gonna plug up my lungs. If I drink, it's not
going to help me. If I do drugs, it's not
gonna help me. So I'm not going to do it.
So I was very disciplined in the way. And I
got made fun of, of course, and I someone laughed
at it myself. I go, you're right, I'm square. I

(06:50):
don't do that, you know, So I'm okay. And it
was okay, and I had made fun of myself and
I didn't take it too serious. From a stand in
front of them, trying to influence me. The things I
always promise myself is that if I'm going to do something,
I'm doing it because I want to do it, not
because someone want me to do it or because I'm
trying to follow someone. I want to be a leader,
and that being a leader being is being disciplined yourself,

(07:12):
whether it be eating or right, which I do working
out because I thought you only get one body. I
know you only get one body in this life. If
you take care of it while you're young, it'll probably
take care of you when you get older. So I
promise myself when I was very young that I'm going
to take care of myself. I want to be able
to do the same things when I'm sixty, seventy or
eighty that i'm doing now. And that's basically what I do.
I still able to work out, They're able to go

(07:34):
to gyms, They're able to do those things. So that's
what I promise myself to do.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
That's incredible, that's really now. Really, I very few people
can do football and track walk. The audience throughout that
was like and the discipline of that, and what's the
mindset of somebody doing both sports like that?

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Well, the good thing about it is that one helps
the other. Football actually gives me the tough ones for
track gives me the speed of football. But it also
can hurt each other because in football you don't have
you don't have the luxury of practicing all the way
through the spring, and in trock it hurts because you're
you're on the football field and people are hurting you.
You're trying to hurt you. So while Cornel Loos and

(08:16):
those guys were training, like in November Octoba November December,
I was playing football. They were running, getting a great base.
I didn't have the same base. So when I came in,
I was at a disadvantage of them, and I still
was able to compete and make Olympic teams and everything else.
So that told me that if I had the same
opportunity and not just train fract you're around, I would

(08:36):
have been much better. But you know, one washing the
other's hand, and they both were great for me, and
I enjoyed them both. I never not played them both,
never not did them both, so I have no guideline
of what would have happened if I didn't do one
or the other.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
So you make that Olympic team and then there's a boycott.
How did that land on you?

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Well, at the time, you know, I was eighteen nineteen
years old, so it was like, okay, I'll just make
the next team, you know, no big deal. And we
had an alternative Olympics, which I want to go middal
At and actually more countries were there. It was thirty
four countries with US in only seventeen countries in Moscow.
So for us, it was still the same in a sense,
even though that's an astisk I knew my gold medal,

(09:17):
but still a gold medal to me. I just took
it as something that it was politics. Didn't understand that
By the time. I was so young that I really
didn't understand it the way I do now. And you know,
we all were frustrated by it because it was unnecessary.
The Russians were in Afghanistan. They didn't not move out
of Afghanistan, so nothing was accomplished. It would have been

(09:37):
better if we'd gone to Russia and beat them on
their home turf. That would have sent a better message.
But present Carly didn't think that was the right thing
to do, and as an American we had to do
what the President said. Unfortunately, But the thing about is
that those people never trained for four years to do something,
and a lot of those players and athletes never gotten
another opportunity to be in another Olympics, which was bad

(09:58):
for them. So there's something that.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Was Yeah, that's really interesting, right, you got to keep performing.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Some people that was it, that was your shot, and
that was it, right.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yeah. Some people that was just show and that was it.
I mean Stanley Florid, for instance, was a fastest man
in the world for that two years before that, no
one would have beat him. He was he would want
to gold Miller never got another opportunity, never, and a
lot of other people never got an opportunity.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
What's it like running with Carl Lewis? I mean, you
guys are you were spectacular?

Speaker 3 (10:29):
What was that like?

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Well, Carl and I were really good friends. Of course,
we ran the Junior Olympics together nineteen seventy nine in
high school, and then we made the Olympic team together,
and then we made world championship teams together. We broke
the world's record together. We were the first team ever to
run on the thirty eight seconds in the port. But
I want him to be relay ran second leg he
ran anchor and we still have a friendship today. I

(10:51):
spoke with him last week. We still have a great bond,
great friendship. I have a lot of these bonds forever
because there's a mutual respect because we know what it
took to get there. I mean, you just don't run
the Olympics. You just don't run the World Championships. Just
a lot of guys, there a lot of football players
out here. Well I could have run. But you know,
it doesn't work like that. You know, you just you
got to do it. You can't say you couldn't. You

(11:12):
have to do it, you know, no matter what, because
it's a it's a mindset. And when you're get in
the blocks and you're against someone else, you got to
be good that day. It doesn't matter what you did
last week or yesterday, or or you know, ten or
five years ago. You have to be good on that
day at that time, and against the gun, not against
your movement, you know. And it always tricked me out

(11:32):
when people on the football pid go, well, he's so fast,
he could have been the Olympics. Well I don't think so.
It's a little bit different.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
What's more difficult the guy next to you in the
lane or the guy lining up in football as a
quarterback getting ready to knock you out, which is more
difficult mindset, Well, if you're talking.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
About the Olympics, Olympics would be more difficult because you
you're run against everyone in the world. You know, it's
not just a US thing, and football is a US thing,
and you know you got to rely on, first of all,
the play to be called for you. You got to
allow on the block to line the block for you.
You're gonna allow on the quarterback to throw the ball
to you. The pass have to be good, the defense
has to be the right thing. So there's a lot

(12:10):
of things that has to happen correctly for a receiver
to really catch a pass. But in track it's you
against the guy next to you. You know, the time
doesn't matter. In the Olympic final, it doesn't matter what
the time is. You just want to win. So and
it's predicated on the work that you do, the work
that you put in. If you're if someone's even and
you put in more work, you're gonna win. But if

(12:31):
someone's even and you know you don't put in the work,
then you're probably gonna lose. So, but it's you against
the person next to you and you against the clock,
so it's totally up to you and it's more controlled.
But it's a it's a harder thing because that guy
is praying just as hard as you have.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Wow, let me ask you this, buddy, what's it like
when you put on that uniform, the USA uniform for
the first time?

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Do you remember? It was like goosebumps? It was it
was teary eye, goosebumps. It was just an amazing feeling.
First of all, when I made the Olympic team, I
couldn't believe it. First of all because I'm from a
small town twenty five thousand people, Griffin, Georgia. You know,
even though I made the junior Olympic team, I guess
I sort of expected it, but I didn't. But I did,

(13:14):
you know, But to actually get the uniform, when they
give it to you and you get it and then
you put it all and you try it on, and
it's like, am I really doing this? I mean, is
this really being?

Speaker 2 (13:24):
No?

Speaker 1 (13:24):
You have to pinch yourself. And back then we didn't
have the good cameras and all that, so there's very
few pictures, if any, But you know, it was. It
was something that will be memorable for me for the
rest of my life. And it's something that I achieved
that no one can ever take away. I'll always be
an Olympian, always be a two time Olympian, always be
a Golden Medalists. And you know, so it's a it's

(13:45):
a good feeling because I know I worked hard for it.
It wasn't something that was given to me. And I
didn't rely on anyone but myself because I had to
because without me running and training hard and doing the
extra going the extra mile and learning how to train,
you know, I wouldn't have accomplished that.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
And did you grow up in the church? You strike
me as somebody who has strong faith? What is your
do you have a spiritual practice or what do you
seem so tapped in?

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Man?

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Absolutely, I grew up in a Baptist church. My mom
and dad, you know, we went to church every Sunday,
which taught me right from home. I had a great
life a childhoods Shawn, I say, I had a two
great parents that taught me right from home. A I
said earlier that I can never repay them for the
kindness and the lessons that they taught me. My mom
taught me how to cook very early, so I would

(14:31):
be self sufficient. I can cook whatever I need to.
My dad taught me how to do corpentry, plumbing, electrician work,
a little bit of everything. I can do a little
bit of everything. So I'm a well rounded person because
I was taught that. And the Church was great. Always
just a spiritual understanding of something greater than you. I mean,
I always understood that I wasn't the all, and that

(14:53):
was something that was greater than me. So I think
give thanks. And also it's a blessing to be help
the things that I had. And you know, we didn't
grow up rich by no means, but you know we
we had food on the table, and we knew where
I next meet was coming from. And I had great surroundings,
great teachers, had an amazing sister who picked my blood
all the time and made me tough. I had twelve

(15:16):
my mom had eleven brothers and sisters. So I had
a great family that I was around all the time,
and we had fun. I had a real childhood. I
had a real kid in childhood and experienced all the
crazy stuff that you go through and all of the
drug stuff and you know, none of the prejudice stuff.
Even I lived in Georgia, and Georgia at the time
was a very prejudicus place. But you know, I somehow

(15:36):
missed all that. I was very fortunate my mom at
the time worked for people who was white, and we
became really good friends. I had two sons and daughters
that we were all very close. I sus spend the
night with them sometimes and we'd all played together. And
I was six five or six years old, and so
I never felt that pressure of that, you know, the
bigotry of the racial things, and but I understood it,

(15:57):
but I never felt it because also my personality, because
I always smiled and always laughed, and so I saw
the on own people. Everywhere I see people, I saw
the smile with them and say hello. And even now
I think it's important because our country is going through
so many crazy things that I try to make sure
that people know that you know, it's okay. And I

(16:17):
always speak to people, even the elevators. You know, hello,
how you doing, what's your name, where you're from? You
know all that. I think it's it's good because if
you give someone a smile, you never know how it's
going to help them. I'm got god people who come
back to me and go. Man, you took time to
talk to me, you gave me an autograph, and it
meant so much of me. I was a kid, so
you never know who you're going to touch and how
you touch them. And a smile could really do a

(16:39):
lot with someone as opposed to a frown or not
saying anything. So I really believe in that.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Well, your smile had great impact on me, man, that's
for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, truth knows truth.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
Brother. Okay, how did how did you? I mean, you know,
you go from.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Football to you know, all all American Olympic ath legal
Bob slid?

Speaker 3 (17:01):
How did that happen? I mean, my god, you're a
triple thread brother, right.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Okay, So so Bob slaid, Okay, I was in the
Summer Olympics. I wanted to be in the Winter Olympics also,
so I said, okay, what can I do? I looked
at all the Winter Olympic events. I couldn't skate, I
couldn't play hockey. I couldn't speed skate. I couldn't I
wasn't gonna ski jump. I couldn't ski. So I said, well,
I can run fast and push and jump in a
hold on for good life. So it's Bob setting. So

(17:26):
I called the US Bob Set team and said, look,
my name is Willie Caul. They go, well, we know
who you are. I said, well, I want to come
up and see if I can slide and make the
Olympic team. I said, okay, great, so they inviting me up.
I did great. I made the team and we competed
in hill in the Calgary against the Jamaicans.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
That's kind of a dangerous sport, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
You know it can be. It was for a little while.
But what happened is this. Before these the run the
runs were straight and people would fly on. But then
they lip the runs and the whole thing. So when
a slid hit the top, it just turns over. So

(18:06):
basically what you do you turn over and you stay inside.
You don't go out, because I used to go into
the woods and people did get killed before. But luckily
for me, I never think I think I crashed. I
don't think I ever crashed. I was very lucky. We
actually got the push record for the Olympics, but we
got four so I was just out of the metal.
But it was really fun. I had a great time,

(18:27):
met great friends that I have friends now forever, and
rent Olympics and bop stedding and that was really cool.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
You never did the sport before?

Speaker 2 (18:35):
How did you How did you get on the team
if you never played the sport before? I mean, I
know you're a gifted athlete, but let's work for other
people that wanted to be on the bob sled team.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Well, I went up and I trained for like two
months with the team. And so I trained with the
guys for two months. So I learned how to push,
how to jump in So I did that. So I
trained for two months. And it's all about strength and
speed and power and speed. So I that speed, of course,
and that was just a matter of using my power
to know how to push the sled and how to
use your power. As far as the running and the coldest,

(19:08):
I mean, that was the main thing, getting through the
coldest because it was cold. I mean, went to East Germany.
We stayed ten days in East Germany, went to Russia, Switzerland,
the Alps, I mean, so it was really cool. Austria
had a great time.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Wow, Okay, and then the Chicago Bears are calling. Yes,
that was the next stop, right, Yeah, I mean I was.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
With the Bears before I started the win Olympics. I
was already drafted ball the Bear in nineteen eighty three.
So I went to eighty three, went to the Bears,
played the first year. Second year, I called the Olympic Committee.
Went up in the off season because there's season is
over in January. So in February, January, late January February,
I went to Lake Placid, New York, and I slid

(19:52):
on the with the bobs. They team, and then I
made the Olympic team in eighty eight. Oh got it,
got it? Okay, won the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
Talk to us.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
About what it's like playing What was it like for
you once again the small little town, right, You're getting
paid now to play for this incredible organization.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
What was that like?

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Well, it was it was sort of surreal a little
because as a kid I grew up I loved sports.
I loved baseball. Hanker and was one of my heroes.
I love football, Jim Brown and Lyn Swann and you
throw peers and Tony Dorris said, I saw those guy.
I looked at those guys as being like my heroes. Basically,
in a sense we're not heroes, but I admired him.

(20:30):
So in high school I had a lot of success.
I ran kickoffs back for touchdowns. I was All America
and Tonker Towns were touchdown you know. So I had
a lot of success. So I thought at that point,
I'd made it an opportunity to pay professional ball. And
then when I went to Tennessee, of course my first
pass was a touchdown, and then I had all these
other touchdowns, and you know, left the league and still

(20:51):
have SEC records and Tennessee records. So I thought I
would have an opportunity to play professional football. So once
I was drafted, I didn't know where we go because
at that one point I got in calls from several
different teams like Dallas Cowboys called me, go will We're
gonna get you. We want you. Because I had known
Gil Brant, who was the general manager at the time.
We'd become really good friends because I made the playboard
All American out of high school and we had spent

(21:12):
some time together in Texas, and I got a call
from him said, look, if you're there, we're gonna get you.
Said okay, great, And then a couple other teams called me,
and then the Bears called me and said we're gonna
draft you down. So it was it, do you want
to play with the Bears? I go, I'll play anywhere.
I'm good. So they called they drafted me, and then
I flew up to Chicago to meet everyone and it
was really great. And but I had had a choice

(21:34):
of mate because I made the US World Championship team
that was supposed to go to hell Sinki the last
of July. So fraening camp starts in July. So I'm
saying to myself, I want to go to the World Championships.
So my agent, who I hired, a guy named a

(21:56):
Big Glenn, he said, well, look, they want you to
come on the training camp. But at that point, the
amount of money they were offered me I wasn't agreeing with.
So I said, look, just let them know that until
they come up to write amount, I'm going to run track.
And I went over Europe. I started unning track and
my agent was calling me like every other day and saying,
well they at this figure. I go, no, this, sure no.

(22:18):
So I just said, okay, look just let them know.
I'll make the decision after the World Championships. So that
was it. And so competing the World Championship with both
the world's record with Carl Lewis on the football one
hundred meter relay, I got third in the hurdle, so
I wanted to go and the bronze. And after the race,
after the World Championships, I decided to hang up my shoes.
So I hung my shoes up in the stadium and

(22:40):
that was it, and so I decided to go back
and sign. I came to Chicago signed with the Bears.
My first practice. Of course, all the media was there,
and the guys gave me nicknames like world Class and
the Doctor because they said, well, when you came to
the campus, all of the receivers that were hurt, all
of a sudden it became well, so it was funny.

(23:01):
So we gave me the name of doctor, world Class
and all these other things. So it was really cool
and it was really a great first practice. Got a
chance to meet everybody. I'd already met Walter Payton before
at Mett, coach Dicker before, so I knew them and
it was just one of those things where for me
I had so much confidence that it wasn't like a
big shock to me because I played big time college

(23:22):
football at Tennessee. You know, we played against Alabama, we
played against the USC marks. Allen kicked out, but he
had two hundred years a halftime. So, uh, I knew
big time. I knew I knew big time college football,
so I wasn't really overwhelmed. And my first touchdowns in
Chicago again, my first I had three touchdowns in one game.

(23:44):
Was my first three touchdowns in one game against New
Orleans where Jim and Man threw me one and Walter
Payton threw me two. So that year I went on
to make All Rookie team and had eight touchdowns. I
led the league and receiving touchdowns and yards and all that.
So I had a really good career. I mean a
good start to my career and just saw them move
right in and it was okay because I had confidence
because I knew I could do it, and you know,

(24:07):
I wasn't worried about it.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
Wow wow wow wow wow wow.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
Let me ask you this. You must have really believed
in yourself. Say no, the money's not right, call me
when it's right. I mean, that's really something. You had
so much confidence in yourself. Your value in yourself was extraordinary.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Absolutely. Well, I mean I was a first round jack pick,
so I sort of realized that, okay, for my first round,
I mean, someone wants me. And if these guys don't
want to pay me, right, someone's gonna want me, no problem,
It's okay. But also, I mean I had a dilemma
of whether or not I was not going to play
and wait for the Olympics in the av the next
Olympics eighty four, which was in Los Angeles, which I

(24:44):
really wanted to go and run in eighty four. So
I was thinking about maybe just waiting another year, running
the Olympics and then going to the NFL. But I
talked to a lot of people and as I, well,
it's not promise to you, this is an opportunity. You know,
God's putting it from me. You should do it. It's
not right or it might not be the right thing
to do. And so I made the decision after I

(25:06):
won my last medal that it was time to hang
it up. And I had done almost everything I could
do in track and field, I mean, based off what
I had to work with, and if I just concentrated
pack and field, it been different. But the fact that
I played football and track football were they career track
At the time, there was really no money. I mean
I made very little money. In fact I made some,

(25:27):
but very little money was in track. So football was
a guarantee and it was a stepping stone toward other
bigger things.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
And you went on Super Bowl with the Bears, of course, right.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
So highlight of my NFL careers is the course winning
the Super Bowl in nineteen eighty five. We had a
great year. We're fifteen and one, and then of course
went on to win the Super Bowl against New England,
and it was, you know, a dream come true for
all of us. You know, it was one of those
things where you play as a football player, you want

(25:58):
to win the Super Bowl, and a lot of players
don't an optunit win like Dan Marino, who's one of
the greatest players of all time, Eric Dickerson and Dan
Mareno never won a Super Bowl. Jim Kellen never won
a Super Bowl. He went to four number one. One.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Andre We Yeah, So it's one of those things where
it's very fortunate. So I was very fortunate to be
able to do all the things I did to have success,
to win Super Bowl, to win gold medals, and win
Olympics gold, to Olympics, win world championships, and to be
in my white mind to be able to do it right.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
You're right, sure, but as you know better than anybody,
so many athletes sussess money and all that. You know,
they get mixed up with drugs, girls, bad marriages, bad investments.
You've played it straight the whole way through. How do
you talk to us about that? And what's that been
like for you to watch? I'm assuming you've had people

(26:47):
your your you know, fellow players have great falls in
their industry. I'd love to hear about your experience, your
experience about that.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
I just I think it's my upbringing. And also I
just never believe my clippings as good as my best
day and not as bed as my worst day. I'm
somewhere in between, and I always stay in between because
that's where I am, and that's where I am, and
I'm just a regular person. You know, if you cut me,
I believe you know. I have the same inhibitions and
the same hopes and wishes for my family everyone has

(27:15):
for theirs health, happiness, success, you know, And I try
to treat everyone the way I want to be treated.
I think if you do that, and I don't think
I'm better than anyone else. I'm not. I'm the same.
You know. Just because I have extraordinary talents that God
has given me, I'm blessed, doesn't mean that it's better
than anyone else, no matter who they are. So I
look at everyone on a level ground with me, and

(27:38):
I think when you do that, you don't set yourself
up for failure or success. You just try to be
and I try to be, and you know, because it's important. Again,
I've had people come to me and said, man, I
want to make sure you know that when I was
a teenager or this, I was going through something in
my life and you took the time you signed an
autograph for me. You did this and it meantal heft

(27:59):
to me. That means a lot to me. And I've
seen guys who refuse to sign guys autograph and tail
kids to get out of the way or something like
that push them back, and you know that it's sort
of hurts my heart because I think about one if
that was my child. So everything I do I have
a purpose and I think about it. I don't make
rust decisions. I think about what I'm going to do
when I'm going to do it, how it's going to

(28:19):
affect me, how it's gonna affect my family, how it's
gonna affect my future, and how it's gonna affect my
friends and everything. So that's why I take a beat
before I make any decision about anything. I'll make rest decisions,
and I don't I take people for what they are
because I understand everyone is not like me. I may
have a certain level that I want to do, and

(28:40):
everyone has a different levels that they deal with. So
I have to have empathy for people, sympathy for people,
and respect for them, and I have to believe them
when they're hurting. Their hurting. It's not that okay, Well
you should do this because I do it. No, you
should do it because you want to do it. You
do it, and if I can help you, all help you.
But if not, I got to respect what you're doing.
If it's not for me, then I got to move on.
But if it's okay, then it's okay. But I think

(29:01):
it's it's a respect. I think that's more important than anything.
If we don't respect ourselves, respect each other, then we
don't have anything. Because we're on this earth for a
very short period of time. I haven't family that a
thousand years ago, a hundred years ago. I have no
idea who they were one hundred years from now. No
one's gonna know who I am. So what are you
doing here? What are we doing? We don't own this place.

(29:24):
It was here before we got here. It's gonna be
here when we go. What they're fighting for land that's
not even there all over the world, which is stupid
to me. It's crazy. We're killing people innocantly for something
that's not even there. They never will be theirs. So
I just have a different thought about life. I really do.
I mean, not different than anyone else, But it's just
I know, I don't know anything. I have no idea.

(29:46):
Think about it. If we're one mile closer to the sun,
we burn up as the earth. If we're one mile
further way, we freeze. We keep us on the perfect
axis around the sun. What makes our heart be the
I am? Way? From a time we're born to the
time we die? What starts a hard way? I mean?
What is that our body is so complex, all the

(30:07):
veins and muscles and everything in a perfect position. What
is that? And why why are we here? Are we
really here. So there's so many questions that I know
I don't know the answers to, and I don't try
to rack my brain to know. I know one day
I'll find out, But right now, it's me living the
life I can live and touching everyone I can touch
in a positive way and leaving something that in that

(30:30):
dash between my born and death that people can be
proud of and that my family can be proud of.
I think that's the main thing that I want as
an athlete, as a person, and whatever celebrity I have,
I try to use it for good, you know. I
try to make sure that people know that I love them,
I respect them, and I appreciate them, because without fans,
you don't become who you are. You know, if you

(30:52):
don't have fans buying tickets to go to the game,
you can't get paid. You know a lot of things
forget that, you know, So it's important and it's important
how you treat people. Because again, I'm just a regular person.
I've blessed with special abilities as far as athletic goes,
and also mental ability, which we won't talk about that,
but you know, it's just it's part of life, you know,

(31:12):
and I try to look at life in a very
simple way that I don't know anything. I know very
little and I'm still learning, and I respect everything. I
believe nothing, but I believe everything can happen. So that's
just the way I live. And I don't take everything
too serious, but I don't take it not serious. So

(31:35):
I'm and I'm not in the middle of anything. I'm
high on everything, but also i'm this, I'm not this
or this. I don't want to get too high and
I don't want to get too low. I don't stay
here and here is my flee thought. And that's basically
the way I see it. Yeah, that's beautiful. God, that's
really beautiful. Thank you for saying all the above.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Okay, uh, you guys the Bears, you guys make a
little video.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
What I do about that? Huh? Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
What I didn't know was that you guys made that
before you won the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Like, yeah, well, I I hear write and produce that. Okay.
Let me tell you how it started. I had an
agent called I seen him out here. My agent was
Jack Gilardi. I went to Monaco to play in a
celebrity tennis tournament with Prince Albert and who we became
really good friends. And there was a guy named Dick
Myers who owned a record label called Red Label Records

(32:29):
in Chicago. So he wanted to have dinner with me
because he wanted me to be in this video with
Linda Clippet called that he didn't meet. It was a
video about her being a singer and a fireman and
me coming in and saving her. So I said, okay,
so I did that. When I did the video, it's
really cool. It's called Heat and Me. I'm in this,
you know, spandex type thing and I'm rescuing her and
it was pretty cool. And so we went to dinner

(32:49):
and he said, I said, you know what, we should
do a song about the Bears. He said, well, I
got this music. It may work, so let's so then
we talked about, okay, what players will be involved. We
need it ten, We needed ten players. So I had
to do this duty of trying to convince these guys
to do a song. Now we were talking about we
were just coming out of training camp. So we were
in game number one or two of the season. Wow

(33:11):
to do a song about winning the Super Bowl, which
is fourteen games out of the line. So that year,
had just come off a playoffs and we thought we'd
be winning the Super Bowl going to Super Bowl this
year anyway, So I told the guys, let's do this
song called the super Bowl Shuffle because that's the name
we came up with Dick and I and because it
was called the Catfish Shuffle. But then we said the

(33:32):
Super Bowl suffer the super Bowl. So I had to
go to guys after them. Most of the guys said yeah.
Dan Hafter said no way, man'uld be bad luck. Steve
min Michael said no way. Walter said great, let's do it.
Because Walter was on Saturday Night Live and Jimmy Man
was doing commercials. Everybody was doing a lot of stuff.
So we actually recorded the song in game number two one.

(33:53):
I did mine in game number one. They did in
game number two between game number two and three of
the season. Then we shot the video and game number
thirteen at the game we number thirteen, which we lost
the game against Miami, but we'd already had the video
place paid for and everything was ready to go, so
the guys had to come. I was sweating bullets because
I didn't think they were gonna come, because everybody set

(34:14):
because we lost. I said, guys, look, we've already done
the song. It was already out. The song was out
and was a hit, So we have to do the
video where we're committed. You know, it's gonna help feed
the neediest families in Chicago. So Mike Singletary was one
of the first guys to come in that everybody started
dragging in and it was great. We wound up doing it,
and of course we wound up being second behind Michael

(34:35):
Jackson's Thriller by all time selling this video, and we
also want to go record which are on my wall now.
So and we got nominated for Grammar. Then we lost
to Prince and the song called Kids, which we shouldn't
have been the same category.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
That's it now, you, I mean, I don't think that
gets done without you.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Correct, no, because I'm the one that actually helped produce it,
write it and actually with him was my idea.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Yeah, and then but did you let me ask you something?
How old were you when you did that?

Speaker 1 (35:02):
I think I was twenty four coming three, twenty four,
twenty four? Right?

Speaker 2 (35:06):
So are you thinking to yourself like you I always
feel like you're always taking one step ahead? Like did
you part of you want to say, you know what,
I'm going to do this because I might want to
do entertainment someday.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
You know, I had never thought about it that way
because I wasn't entertainment because at the time I was
doing acting. I was coming out during the off season
and I was I had an agent, I was doing
TV shows. I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, I was
doing a TV show for three years, West Wing. I
was on you know, I was on Grounded for Life.
I was on The Pretender. I did a lot of episode.
I think I had a little forty credits that I've

(35:39):
done movies and televisions, so I was already starting to act.
So for me, it was just you know, I think
the forty nine ers had done a song like a
couple of years before that, so it was like, Okay,
let's just do this song. So it was really something
that I thought would be fun and we have fun,
and we'd make money for the people in Chicago because
they helped feed the neediest families in Chicago. So we
thought it was I thought it was a fun thing.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Yeah, you pulled off some thing very cool there actually,
and you got some most buddy you can you could dads,
you get well, you know, it was all.

Speaker 4 (36:07):
He had, no A yeah, wow, yeah, it was really
cool thing. You know, it's still played this day. I
would never imagine that it would have been as successful
as it was. I mean, it was just a fun
project that we thought would be over in a year.
But it's lasting, you know, forty years later.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
I don't know the story of what happened in Chicago
that you ended up going to the Raiders.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
What what happened there? And let's talk about that.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
I was signed my last year of my contract. I
signed a five year deal at the time, I signed
the largest contract for rookie receiver. My five years were
up and we were negotiating the contract. David Fault was
my agent, who was the same age as Michael Jordan,
and they just didn't want to pay me what I
thought I was worth. I was leading the league. I

(36:53):
left the team every year for five years in receiving
and touchdowns and all that and yardage and and Jerry
Reis knows eyes. I was up with them and I
thought I should be paid accordingly, and they didn't think so.
So I said, okay, I'm just going to Hall, I'm
going to LA and I'm gonna act. So I moved
to LA. Basically I started acting. I was doing TV
shows then and you know, just movie stuff. And my

(37:14):
agent called me one day and said I got a
call from George Carris, who was the general manager from
the Raiders. They want to know if you want to
play with the Raiders. I go for sure, absolutely because
I was a huge fan of the Raiders and Al
Davis and then, uh, well no, this is what happened. Sorry,
I got a telephone call and I know who it was.
I picked up. He said, this is George Carris from
the Raiders. Do you want to play with the Raiders?

(37:36):
I said, because I thought it was a trick. I said, look,
I don't know who you are. If you are who
you are, call my agent, David Fault, this is his
number and talk to him. So I got a call
back from Davis. I ten minutes lady said that was
George and the Raiders who want to sign you. Do
you want to play? Okay? Great, So the deal was
worked out and I went to training camp within I'm
not a week and they gave me three times, almost

(37:56):
three or four times, what the right the bandage was
asking for. I mean what the bad were offering, and
they gave the Bears I think two number one draft
picks and a million dollars. So two number one draft
picks are worth at least, you know, a half a million,
one million dollars at a time, so it was worth
three million dollars. But yet they wanted they didn't want
to pay me. So it was just different. And at
that point, two years later, Mike Dick had said to me,

(38:17):
and I saw him, he said, well, that was the
biggest mistake we made getting rid of you, because we
had no beep creadit at the point, and so it
really changed our team and offense. So and it was
unfortunately because I want to stay a Chicago my tire career.
I love the city. It was an amazing city. It
was probably the best city in America.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
And tell us about your time with La. What was
that like for you?

Speaker 1 (38:36):
My time in La was amazing. I mean, La is
just for me. It's my my home now. Of course,
I love the weather. I can train your round, which
is important for me. The whole Hollywood thing, the movies, acting,
the television. I got a chance to meet heroes like
Denzel Washington and Al Pacino. I mean just everybody. Everybody
was here. I got a chance to meet them. John Travolter,

(38:58):
I mean I became friends crude. It was just amazing
all the people that knew me and I knew them.
But it's funny because when you meet people like that,
you don't think they know you, but they know you,
and it's really weird in a sense because you don't
think of yourself in that way. It was magical, and
my first year with the Rangers, had a great time.

(39:20):
Became friends with Marcus Allen and Tim Brown, who was
still my best friends today, and Howie Long and Eric
Dickerson and Bo Jackson were all became good friends and
just played with historical guys and had a chance to
get to know Al Davis in an amazing way. We
should talk in his office for hours after practice, just
about life, about relationships and black and white relationships and

(39:42):
prejudices about athletes and just everything. And I learned a
lot from him. He was a really really intelligent, smart guy,
and those things are so valuable for me that I
got an opportunity to do that, and a lot of
people don't get an opportunity to be able to have
a great career somewhere else, and then go to somewhere
else and another have another good career. So I was
very fortunate. Then also the acting, the television, the acting classes,

(40:04):
the friends I made there. So again I've been very,
very fortunately, very blenched to have those friendships that i'd
gone to this day in value it will.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
What was it like playing your last game?

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Oh boy? If it was Sona, Because I knew because
I always promised myself, I'm not going to stay too
long because when you stay too long, you get hurt
or you're just not performing. So what I really knew
was run my last game. At practice, I was kneeling
between plays. I just wasn't there. Mentally, I was like

(40:41):
on the acting set of think about this, think about
the movie here. I was like myself, I'm saying to myself, Wow,
I'm really not here, so I think maybe this may
be it. So in my last game, we played Buffalo
in the playoff game. It was cold, you know, It's like, okay, this,
I think this is it. It was just one thing
that I promised myself I wouldn't play past my prime,

(41:03):
and I played twelve years, never missed a game, which
no one very few people can say I'm in the
top I think five or six and average per catch
in the NFL history. And I had a great career,
you know, and I'm very pleased at what I was
able to do. I did only what I was able
to do because at the time Chicago we didn't throw
the ball, which a guy named Walter Payton so and

(41:24):
he was a pretty good running back. We were really
a balanced, painting, really balanced team. If I let my team,
I made big plays for my team, and with the Raiders,
I made big plays. So I did what was available
at the time. Would I love to play in this
era because they throw the ball too much? Absolutely? I
mean in this era, if you don't catch a hundred passes,
you're just not playing. In my era, if you got
thirty passes, that was you know, people were catching thirty

(41:45):
to forty fifty passes a year. No one would catching
eighty one hundred passes underpasses. It just won't. So I
was very pleased when I look back at my stats
and compared to everybody else, I'm pretty pleased with what
I was able to accomplish. Incredible career.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
I mean I think a stat that said, how did
you not state how did you not get injured?

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Well, because you know why I was in shape. I
stayed in shape year round because after my football season,
I would go to run track. I would go to
run track on the assume name because I couldn't. They
wouldn't allow me to run track as a professional at
the time, because I sued the Olympic Committee so that
I could be in the Olympics in eighty four. But
I wasn't but the next Olympics. So I see the

(42:28):
Olympic Committee and then they open it up. That's why
Michael Jordan all those guys played basketball in the Olympics,
because before you couldn't be a professional in one sport
and an amateur another, let alone be a professional in
that sport. So I sued the Olympic committee in the
National Olympic Committee, and I won.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
That is an amazing story. I did not know that
you love track that much. You actually sued no kidding.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
Yeah, it cost me over one hundred thousand dollars, which
real at that time was a lot of money. But
you know, I came to prins. It was the principal
of it.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Wow, And do those guys ever give you a love
for doing that.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
No, these guys don't even know it.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
Does anybody else tell that? I mean, that's an amazing story.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
They don't know, they don't know, they don't care.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Yeah, I know, but it's exactly yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
Wow wow wow wow, okay. Interesting.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
So you had to be okay and then and then
your last game and then let's talk about your life,
you know, after you played football and where we're at now.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Well, after after football, I went right into acting. I
wanted to be busy because I think if I thought,
if I sat down and just thought about football, it
wouldn't be good for me. So I went run in
to acting. I was doing TV shows and movies, and
I was in acting classes, you know, three or four
days a week, and you know, just doing stuff Like
I say, busy. Did I watch games? Yeah, but on
Sundays I watched game Yeah, because you know this way

(43:48):
it goes. But I was busy doing the week and
I just not doing anything so and being an entrepreneur,
I was, you know, relying on my business equiments. So
I was doing business deals and trying to do different
things that I was interested in and just having him
trying to have fun. And that's basically what I did.
I played celebrity things, whether it be celebrity softballs or

(44:08):
baseball games, and you know, started playing golf, which I'm
playing a lot of golf now. I love it. So
I was on these celebrity golf tours and doing celebrity
you know, tournaments and everything else. So I stayed busy.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
So but and I mean, I mean you're still running,
You're still you're still competing in it all over the years.
I think it's incredible. You're in phenomenal shape. How have
you been able to maintain that? I mean you just
you just train every day.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
Well, I never stopped, and that's the key, because if
you stop and try to start back, is way too
difficult and you lose a lot. I've bookedn thirteen world
records in a span of thirty five thirty six years,
which is never been done from an age standpoint, because
I have age group records from you know, forty five
to fifty fifty, fifty fifty five to sixty, so basically
that's I booked those records in one hundred and two

(44:54):
hundred and then of course when I was running Helsinki
and then those records. So I just never stop. And
when you stop, it's like the kiss of deaths. You know,
you stop training, stop working out, stop doing something. You
don't have to do it this part, but you got
to do something maybe three days a week, whether it
be for thirty or forty minutes a day. I tell everyone,
old athletes and young athletes or you know, just people

(45:16):
who want to get into it, do something for thirty
forty minutes a day. And the first thing in the morning,
I do it. You know, I'm at the gym, you know,
around six o'clock. I get up at five, I drop
to the gym. I dropped thirty minutes of the gym,
and I'm there at six, and I'm at the track
at eight o'clock, seven thirty o'clock. I go to the
track after there, and then I'm home by nine thirty ten,
so and then my day starts. So I get it done.

(45:38):
So because if you don't get it done, then stuff
comes and you don't get it done, because there's always
something they have to do when some emergency comes up.
So I try to make that my time. My time
is my time, you know, to do that for my body,
for myself, for my health, and it's basically what I do.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
It's incredible, just incredible, man. And why did you pick
GOLs gym?

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Well, I used to live in Venice on the beach,
at the house on the beach, so it was the
closest gym and I went there for the first time.
I met Arnold Schwarzenegger. There, I met Magic was there,
I mean just everybody. Franks Ballan was there. I mean
just everybody beg ridden out. So it became my home.
I've been going to gym there since nineteen eighty nine

(46:23):
or ninety so I've been going there all the time.
And I became like an honorary member and they gave
me a lifetime membership, which is great. And I dropped
the twenty twenty five minutes I need to drip in
the morning to go there's it's worth it. And I
see all my friends there and it's a great workout atmosphere.
And sometime we were on the beach, so it's just

(46:43):
go to the beach and run after my working best.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
It's the best. You guys jump in the ocean with me.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
I'm not an ocean guy. There. You heard a white
man can't jump, but this black man can't swear? Met.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
Well, that's the one place you haven't set a world record.
I mean, by god, you know, thank God.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Goes okay with that one.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
Who's been your greatest mentor who's been your greatest teacher?
Obviously your parents you've but you've had so many great
who have been some of your great teachers in life?

Speaker 3 (47:14):
And what are some of the lessons they've taught you?

Speaker 1 (47:16):
Of course, like you said, my parents have been my
greatest teacher, my coach and high school guy named Johnny
Goodrum who was an amazing teacher for me, my college coach,
and Mike. I think my friends my friends because of
the lessons I see them learn and that we learned together,
like Marcus Allen who is an amazing guy, Tim Brown,
Eric Dickerson. We all like great friends, so we learn

(47:38):
from each other. And the good thing about these guys
are like real friends. They'll tell you when something's wrong,
they'll tell you when it's right, and they give you
your props, you know, and we do the same. So
and people like Jim Brown, what became really good friends with,
you know, to see his life, and I was there
at the end when he was, you know, going through
his sickness to learn from him, to see the humility

(47:59):
with him, and to be able to understand what he
went through and the change without Jim Brown that be
halling none of us, all the things that he did,
the Muhammad Ali. I mean to be able to meet
him and who was a childhood idol, to be able
to spend time with him a little bit, and to
understand what he went through. I try to look at
things and be a historian of those things and understand

(48:20):
and respect those people and give them their proper respect,
and because we learn from them, and you know just it.
I try to learn from everybody, and I do learn
from everybody, whether whether it be someone who's young or
someone who's old. I'm never too old to learn. And
I'm willing to let my ego not be there to
be able to be better, be a better person. I

(48:40):
think that's basically what we need today in this world,
is that we have so many egos are so high,
the toss just so much, and everybody want to be right,
and then everybody's wrong because they want to be right.
I want to be right. I want to be I
want to win. I want to be right. I just
want to win. I want to win. The game. Being
right is not part of it. So that's basically how

(49:02):
I see light, and yeah, how I see my my
little small place. I'm just not even a grain of song,
a grain of saying in this world. You know, it's
seven billion, nine billion people over the lifetime, it's been
twenty billion or whatever. So I'm just so minute. It
doesn't really matter in a set, but it is what

(49:23):
it is, you know, and I'm doing my part to
try to sustain that and make this pay a better place.

Speaker 3 (49:28):
Oh beautiful?

Speaker 1 (49:28):
All right?

Speaker 3 (49:29):
Can we do some rapid fire questions and I'll let
you go.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
You're right for sure?

Speaker 3 (49:33):
Are you ready? Okay?

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Olympics are super Bowl, which gave you the bigger rush Olympics.
Favorite quarterback you ever kind of passed from?

Speaker 1 (49:44):
Oh boy, mcmahn.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
Hard to line up against an NFL quarterback or the
guy in the lane next to you. We talked about
that a little bit, but let's go through it again. Yeah,
the guard in the lane next to me got it.
One song that always gets you hyped up before competition.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
Well that's hard. I see the music, really see. I
don't gay not the Raiders, but I don't know this song.
I just know the music.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Okay, we'll go, but that's okay, you say you say
both you Saint Bolt, Oh amazing, the best ever, best ever?

Speaker 1 (50:20):
Got it? Okay?

Speaker 3 (50:22):
Favorite city you've ever competed in.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
Lose, lose on.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Er Yes, the teammate who made you laugh the hardest,
that Bo Jackson. If you could only keep one gold
medal or Super Bowl ring, gold medal? Wow, stronger opponent
fear doubt or fatigue?

Speaker 1 (50:51):
Fatigue?

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Right, best piece of advice you've ever received from a
coach or mentor.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
People are people, They're just trying to do their best. Okay,
my high school coach, it's great. Great when the stadium
is quiet and the race is done. What's the one
word that best describes Willy Gault commitment game? All?

Speaker 2 (51:17):
All right, all right, buddy, thank you so much for
being on the show.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
It's is an incredible blessing and honor to have you
on here.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Okay, any any final thoughts for the audience that you
want to say, sir.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Well, my patologies for not being able to be there
in person if this is the next next thing, because
we have the technology. But I'm I'm Sarah wasn't there
in person to give you a big hug my friend.
I appreciate it right.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
Well, I'll see you at the Mecca and you know
I'm gonna be coming at your heart.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
Brother, appreciate all right, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
Willie sinal Show is a production of iHeart Podcasts.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
Hosted by me Cina.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
McFarlane, produced by pod People in twenty eighth. Av Our
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We'll see you next week.