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February 12, 2025 • 59 mins

The interview delves into Tiffany Haddish's personal and professional journey. She discusses her views on staying off the internet to avoid spiritual warfare, dealing with self-esteem issues, and personal growth. Haddish recounts her challenging upbringing in South Central Los Angeles, foster care experiences, and finding comedy as her savior. She candidly shares insights on relationships, heartbreak, and the importance of self-worth. Tiffany also emphasizes her philanthropic efforts with the 'She Ready Foundation', offering life skills and essentials to foster youth. The conversation explores her connection with spirituality, her impactful bat mitzvah, and the essence of resilience.

 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I've been learning to stay off the internet because that
is I believe the the grounds where the war is
being fought, spiritual warfare going on. And I have noticed
if I'll watch certain things or read certain things and.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Attacks my spirit.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
So from that day or what I say, anytime a
man offered me is number, I'm always gonna take it
because I don't want to mess up take stuff as stings.
Anytime they ask for my number, I'm always donna give
it to them, but it'll be my grandma's phone number.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Because she loved talking to people.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
That was that when our simeor Hawk picked me up
and I licked his face, tasted just like open teams.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
I really appreciate you making time. I know you're a
busy woman. Yeah yep. Yeah. So are you a morning person?

Speaker 1 (01:02):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yeah, I wake up every day at six a m.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yeah. You have a routine you do every morning?

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:12):
My body makes me get up at six yep. That's
a little working out. And then if it's a good day,
I get to go back to be Most of the times,
jump in a shower and then like out And.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
About do you wake up? Are you wake up with
kind of wonderment and curiosity, or you wake up like,
oh fuck, another day, what we got going on here? Shit?

Speaker 1 (01:38):
I wake up every day grateful that I woke up
like what, yep, I did a second chance?

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Cool? Okay, don't want to take another map? No, get up,
get up, get up, get up.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Well, listen, I I you know, we don't know each other,
but I feel like I know you. I'm sure people
say that because you know I read your book. I've
been a fan. But the main reason I'm on the
show and is because you're just a fucking straight up badass.
And you're a straight up badass because.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Besides, yeah, here.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Isn't working I can't figure it out. I fight, and
I'm been freezing every since.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Let's get a repairment over there right away. We can't
have that. Make them with good credit over that good credit? Well,
yeah that's right. What do you say credit? A good
credit score is a grown person's report card?

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, right, report card. I'm on straight eggs.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Well, but listen, you know it's early, and you know
we're getting your story a little bit. But like, you know,
the rule told you you weren't this. You weren't that,
you weren't this, and you were like, no, fuck you.
I am cool, I am smart, I am beautiful, I
am Rezilia. And by the way, I just hosted fucking
Saturday Night Live. So what are you doing? Yeah, so

(03:01):
let's talk about Can we just get in a little
bit where you came from a little bit of your story.
It's such an incredible, magical story about not giving up
and having hope.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
And I grew up in south central Los Angeles. Mom
had a really bad car accident. Dad was on the run.
Mom ended up being not able to take care of
me and my sisters and brothers. Ended up in foster care,

(03:31):
got moved around quite a bit, got in some troubles,
but I found comedy. I found laughter to be like
the thing I really liked the most. Got emancipated for
foster care, but I did live with my grandma for

(03:51):
a while, and then I got emancipated that I was homeless.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
That wasn't cute. I was not, but all.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
I learned to be very resourceful. I had a lot
of pride. I think I was homeless. Every time I
was homeless. I think that was because I had a
lot of pride in I was afraid to ask for help,
and those word lessons and just asking for help. Sometimes
when you just ask for help, things just change. Like
I mean, the worst they can say is no, maybe

(04:25):
they might talk about you. Oh well maybe they talk
about you. When somebody they talk about you too, can
help you talk about it because I mean some help, Okay.
But and I've learned from those lessons how to ask
for help. But yeah, I mean that was that was

(04:47):
a quick little syllable. I've been married, I've been divorced
about love and heart breaving all the time. I'm grieving.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
Yes, I've been arrested, I've been talked about.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
I've been in scandals that I didn't even know was
a scandal, but it is a scandal.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah, how was your do you? It was a great
DUI pick of you. That could be your hinge profile.
That's a nice shot. Yeah you're Yeah. I was like, damn,
this girl's working is beautiful.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
That's because I grew up watching America's Next Time modelings.
She said, whenever you're taking a picture, make sure it's
model worthy.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yeah, well that was very model worthy.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
I don't know how many drinks you have, but you
pulled it off. But listen with me back up, not many, Yeah,
I get it. Not many being the mascot because you
couldn't be the cheerleader. But he became the mascot and
negotiation skills, which led to doing the bar mits was
can we go into that?

Speaker 1 (05:43):
So I became the mascot because okay, so cheerleaders had
a lot of rules.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
It was just way too many rules. And I'm not I'm.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Kind of a breaker, you know, not bad, but not
you know, super innocent either, you know, I want the
fine line.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
And the cheerleaders had a lot of rules.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
And it costs money to go to cheerleader camp, and
I didn't have money, but it didn't cost no money
to go to mascot in camp. And I was trying
to get to all the football games for free because
the boy that I liked he played football. And then
I'm just trying to figure out how can I get
on the bus with the football players? Bam who rides
the bus with the football players?

Speaker 2 (06:23):
The mad So I'm a ginion. So I became the mascot.
I was.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
I went to Elchemino Real High School and with Lanhills, California.
I got bussed out there and I was at Conquista door.
So and now Conquista doors aren't back and they turned
into the Royals. Anyways, Yeah, I did that for three years.

(06:51):
Oh but the last my senior year, I quit. I
quit because I wanted a boyfriend. Everybody everybody had a boyfriend,
but because nobody wants to be the assistant mascot.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
So I quit.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
And the dean called me into the office or the
vice principal come into the office and was like, what's
it gonna take to get you back out on the field.
How is we need you back out there? You know
the numbers are going down. When you mascot, everybody comes
to the games. It's more fun. And I was like
a boyfriend. I want a boyfriend. And it's like I
can't help you with that. I can't help with you

(07:25):
with the boyfriend thing and uh. And I was like, well,
then give me some money so I could get my
hair and nails done so I could get a boyfriend.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
And we negotiated and then started start.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
He started really low at twenty five and yeah, I
ended up getting like one hundred bucks and un of
bucks a game Martins. Yeah, whoa yeah, And that's what
I learned how to negotiate. But being a mascot gave
me a lot of personality. I think let me come

(07:58):
outside my shell. When we had our homecoming dance, uh
now that it was US, I think it was a
winter formal. Anyways, it was a dance at the school
and I was there and I was dancing. I had
the whole the whole party going. I'm like, yeah, you
know how you get the circle around you? And they're like,
don Tiffany, God Tiffany, God Tiffany. And I'm like yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
And the DJ comes up to me and he's like,
while you were amazing you have your energy is so great.
I love for you to come work for my company.
We do a we do bur mixmas and executive parties.
Here's my card and I took his card and I
didn't want to be cause I thought he was kind
of creepy, to be honest, and I didn't want to

(08:43):
take his card. But just the week before, you know,
these boys had asked me and my friend for our
phone numbers and we said no, and they threw pine
cones at us. So from that day or when I say,
anytime a man offered me his number, I'm always gonna
take it because I don't want to mess up self esteem.

(09:04):
Anytime they asked for my number, I'm always don't give
it to them. But it'll be my grandma's phone number
because she loved talking to people.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
I bet she does.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
She don't know more. She's not here no more.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
So now I gotta find somebody new phone number to
give away to these.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
So I take this card, I go home.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
To my grandma and I tell my grandma, Hey, this
man came up to me at the party and he
said he want me to do executive party. Said barn
mix was can you but leave at Grandma?

Speaker 2 (09:34):
What a creep?

Speaker 1 (09:35):
And I gave her the car and she said, you
better call this man. Let's getting closer to your people.
And I didn't know what a barn Mitzwell was at
that time, so I was like, what do you mean
our people? And I thought it meant like you get
on a bar and you show your mits.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
But I'm like, we can't. What are you talking about
me from strippers or something.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
She's like, no, no, Babby, see your daddy Jewish. Your
daddy is Jewish. You need to go over there and
see how they live. You need to be away on them.
You need to learn and so I called a dude.
The next day, like a week and a half later,
I'm doing a bar mitzvah, and I was in shock.

(10:19):
I never seen anything like that before in my life.
And I was jealous. I was so jealous, but also
just like so full of like joy. And then.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah, they're the DJ Timbo. He sent me.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
He wrote me a letter after that party saying like,
cause I was, I was standing around in amazement a
lot because I had never seen anything like that before.
And he's like, maybe you're not ready to work for
this company. And you were, you know, standing around. You
don't maybe you don't have what it takes. Then I
got that letter and over that and I called him back.
I said, I got what it takes. So the next

(10:58):
party I'll do for free and see and he was
only playing me forty bucks.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
Okay, I'm just I'm next one for free.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
You'll see.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
I got the energy. I got what it takes. And
and then I did bar and bout metza's and executive
parties and weddings and holiday parties for eleven years.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
Wow that.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
And I learned how.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
To move a crowd, and I got close to my
roots and uh and then when I finally reunited with
my father uh, and he told me like everything, I
just went ahead and decided to honor him and UH

(11:47):
and honor myself, honor my spirit. My son and I
had about mitzvah when I turned. When I when I turned, Uh,
see in my mind, I'm twenty one in my mind
me okay, But like I said, I entered this planet

(12:09):
nineteen hundred and seventy nine.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
So when I heard in y'all terms forty uh, I.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Had my bat mitzvah And it was like the most
awesomest wonderful experience, one of the yeah, one of the
awesome moments on this this.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
What was it? Give me a takeaway from that? What
was so special about that? For you?

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Well? It was special because like I don't know what
are you?

Speaker 3 (12:41):
What am I? I'm Irish Italian?

Speaker 2 (12:44):
You're Irish Italian? So like, are you like Catholic?

Speaker 3 (12:48):
No, I'm a Buddhist.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
You're a Buddhist? Okay? So okay?

Speaker 1 (12:51):
So you know when you're chanting right and how like
you're like your whole soul fells activated?

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Do you feel like very censored and calm and activated?

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Every time?

Speaker 1 (13:04):
I feel the same way when I when I read
the tour, I'm loud. I feel the same way when
I recite my prayers right when I do this, so
it feels really good for my soul. So my bot mitzvah.

(13:25):
Doing that in front of everybody just really it made
me feel very complete. That's beautiful, mass woman. Yeah, oh,
I love that, you know, but I.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Feel I felt really it's just yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
And was that was that around the time you went
to Jerusalem kind of did your pilgrimage.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
No, I did that in February of twenty twenty three.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Yeah, what's that?

Speaker 3 (14:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yeah, my metough was in twenty nineteen.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Got it, got it? But there you felt connected to
your people, you felt that, you felt the spirit, you
felt the love, you felt that you right.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yeah, I mean it's I feel like no matter what
your religion, first of all, every religion is there. Everybody's there, right, Well,
in Jerusalem, everybody's there. So when you get there, I
don't know, And it was not a lot of people
there when I went. It was barely anybody there. And

(14:38):
I can feel like, I don't know, something in the
in the earth coming up from the earth, like through
your body to your spirit, your soul like I don't know.
You know, I played a medium in that movie Haunted Mansion,
and maybe I was keeling all the ancestors, all the
spirit so many thousands of thous thousands and thousands and

(15:01):
thousands of lives, of millions of lives, people thousands of years,
people have lived there and died there, and there's something
there's something very confident. Definitely, I think it's God or
aliens with a big generator under there. I saw, I

(15:23):
saw the Mountain of Zion. Don't nobody live on that mountain.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
Let's talk about God and your spiritual practice?

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Mm hmmm, what about it? Let's talk about God in
your spiritual practice.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
What do you want to know?

Speaker 4 (15:35):
Ask me?

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Like I'm being interrogated. Man, take spiritual practice.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
In do you chance? Sir?

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Every morning? I never miss it every morning?

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Okay? Because how long do you do? Expluh?

Speaker 3 (15:51):
My whole routine is about everything I do is about
ninety minutes total.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Ninety minutes. Is that including the physical workout as well?

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Yeah? Well, no, I do workouts after I swim in
the ocean. Every day I drive.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Over to Redondo. Uh, you know, about two or three
times a week myself and jump in the ocean. Yeah,
and or run in the dry sandy.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
Okay, let's go do some sand sprints ago, which I'll
challenge you to some then.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Ye sprint, Yeah, let's go, baby.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Let's go. Come on.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Well, now, how do you do your sand sprints?

Speaker 3 (16:31):
So I start basically it's a little bit south of
Ocean Park, and I just work my way to the pier.
You know, I do sand sprints, walk sand sprints, walk,
and then I go to muscle beach.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
How long do you spread? Though?

Speaker 3 (16:44):
I can go forty hundred yard dash.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Because up I time mine.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
So what I do is I do thirty seconds, run
as fast as I can, as hard as I can,
and then I walked to my heart race slows down.
Then I'll run again as fast as I can, and
then for thirty seconds and then I'll walk, you know,
like That's what I've did, and it usually about eight
to ten of those.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
All right, Well we'll do your system.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Okay, okay, good, Just try to try to keep up.
Try to keep up? How you try to keep it?

Speaker 3 (17:18):
No? Yeah, I know, you know you I'm kind of
a serious, you know, I bring it yeah, big time, yeah, big.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Okay, what do you mean big? Time. What are you
competing in like iron man races or.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
No, I don't do that. No, No, I'm just you know,
I'm just a fast white boy. God gave me strong legs.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
He gave me strong legs. Yeah, mountains.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Wait you know, wait a minute. In your book, we
got to talk. We're gonna talk about love here a
little bit. Homie lover boy twenty years, right, and you
what's a homie lover friend? And you were with a
twenty years? But you said something really funny like and
I would do things like pay his phone bills so
he would talk to me all the time, right, And
I want to know what was the moment when he

(18:03):
said I'm done, I'm out.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
What did I learn from that?

Speaker 1 (18:09):
I learned that if you want a man to care
for you and leve on you, you got to let him
be a man. He's not your child, and you need
to also like make that very clear too. I forgot
what I wrote in the book. No, I try to
sometimes I write things in books just to get them

(18:30):
off my spirit and never think about them again.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
So really, you don't remember that a person had.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
A relationships trying to make a move on you.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
I don't want to talk about this.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
Well, you got the move already. We're good. We're good.
You do, We're cool, don't worry about it. They're no judgment.
There's a sign on the door that says, no shame aloud.
We don't do shame here. We don't do judgment. I
know what you're all about. We're going to hang out
and have some fucking fund It's We're good to go.
But I could match you on crazy stories, trust me.
But we have an audience here that try to help

(19:02):
and show a little bit what's going on here. Maybe
they're seeking, you know, us in real time with each
other to night.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
No, let's see you said, what did I learn from it? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Let a man be a man now. I don't ever
spend more than twenty dollars on the man. And if
I think he deserves something or whatever, I'll make it
or like try to like naguerem into a position to
get it on his own for the most part. But like,
don't hand them nothing, hand them nothing. Y'all like to work, y'all.

(19:39):
Some of y'all lazy, some of y'all lazy. Some of
y'all don't want to do.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
I don't want to be with you right, if you.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
Let I'm cool. I'm not into it. And yet and
I was done when I realized, like, this person doesn't
value me, he doesn't like he didn't value me at all.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
And I didn't I didn't make myself valuable.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
So what was the moment when you said, I'm I'm done.
I gotta start loving myself. I can't do this to
myself anymore.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
What was the moment? What was the thing? I guess
it was. I guess when he had a baby?

Speaker 3 (20:26):
Oh fuck, okay, yeah, okay, Yeah that that kind of
sobered you up pretty quickly. Maybe even that broke your
heart a little bit, and say, fuck it, wow.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Are you having a baby? Okay, cool, I'm done.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
That was a moment. Yeah, and and what have you done?
I get the sense that you you protect your heart tremendously.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Yeah nowadays, Yeah, I'm super Yes, it's valuable.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
It's so fragile. My heart is so fragile.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
Yeah, you have a beautiful heart.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
I like to share it, but I'm learning how to
like share with everybody. Don't got to touch it, though
you can share, you can look, but don't touch. Wow,
you can still feel the energy. You can be near it,
but don't be on it. It's been trampled old enough.

(21:30):
It's healing. It's doing a very good job too. It's
so good it's doing. It's okay, go around on the
planet's been it's been bumpy, but it's very fulfilling and
it feels very good.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
My soul feels very good.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
Does it.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (21:54):
You like the frequency you're on right now?

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (21:58):
Yeah, it's beautiful. I'm talking to you. I'm listening to you.
I've been researching about you and I the thing that
I always see your little girl in you, and it's
really beautiful.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
She's very alive.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
Yes, she's very alive.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Can we I don't run the show sometimes a lot
of times.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
Pardon me?

Speaker 1 (22:20):
I said, she's very alive and trying to run the
show sometimes alive.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
I bet you little tea right, Yeah, exactly, the show tea. Yeah,
she's something else, she is something else. What what was
your first real, real big break.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
To me?

Speaker 1 (22:40):
My first real big break is when I did the
Arsenior Hall show. Well, I thought I made it, then
I thought I made it. I guess my real big
break was that's so raven. But everybody else will say, no,
it's girls trip.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
And so for me it was I mean, I feel
like I made it.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
That was that when our Senor Hall picked me up
and I licked his face, I tasted just.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
Like old Richard Pryor pricked you out of an audience
at the Laugh Factory said you got to put this
girl on. She says the next right.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
You have me pushing men on this wheelchair.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
That's right, that's right. Okay. What what was it like
the host that night live?

Speaker 2 (23:31):
Oh man, that was a stressful experience.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
But I learned that I might be a little bit
of a control freak and now it's okay to just
let go and just go on for the ride, and
he'll be okay, like, don't don't resist so much, especially
when like I, you know, I had a full body

(23:54):
yes going. But then at the same time, I'm like, no,
this is not the way I envisioned this. I mean
that time, but I wanted it to be like it
was like, hey, stop with the temperatentiuals, just go for
the ride. What you this is what you asked for,

(24:14):
and it's kind of better than what you asked for
because now you can see why you didn't get it
the way you like. Because Originally I just wanted to
work there as a cast member.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
I wanted to be on the glass and be there
every week every Saturday.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
Lie and I send all those times, didn't get it,
and then I end up hosting, and I see I'm
inside the machine and I'm seeing how it works. It's
like God is like, yeah, listen to why you didn't
get this job. Okay, your personality. I want you to

(24:56):
be able to create freely, want to learn how to
work in a machine.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
M hm.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
And I feel like if in that earlier part of
my career had I ended up at S so, now
I probably wouldn't be as creative as I am. I
be creative, and also I might be in prison. So
that is why it went the way it did. That

(25:25):
it is and that is what I learned, Like, oh,
you know, you always think the grass is being on
the other side, and it might be, but you might
not know how to cut that grass or own that
grass to stay as green as it is. So just
enjoy it from where you at and you might get
to walk through, you might get to do a little

(25:47):
visit over there and go back to your side. And
that's what I feel like I did, and I would
be I'm like, so, I'm I was in awe, but like, yeah,
I was in awe of how that thing works. It's
it's I'm not built for that kind of stress, but
I do it. At first, I never wanted to do

(26:10):
it again because I didn't think I could. But I've
matured more, I've been through more, and I have a
better understanding of how all that how it goes down,
and so I would probably, I know, I would just
relax more and just focus on my monologue, which I

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know would be amazing.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
How do you stay so grounded and humble with all
your success?

Speaker 1 (26:39):
I live with me, bro, I see my failures, Okay,
I see I see the failures you'll never see.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
Yeah, I don't know. I'm pretty quick. Well, you didn't
answer the question. I know, yeah, now you know. The
question was you're pretty good. I get it now. The
question is how do you stay grounded and humbled with
you know, all your success and all the great things
that have happened in your life and so many people
wanting your time and energy.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
I mean, like I said, I live with me. I
stay humble because I.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Know where I came from and I appreciate I appreciate
where I'm at, and I know I've worked for this,
and like I said before, while it might not be
ideally what I thought it was good like how I
exactly envisioned it, it is pretty much what I mastermind manifested. Like,

(27:34):
it's pretty much what I manifested, and I just didn't
pay attention to the details. And I'm learning to pay
attention to the details now when I'm imagining the life
I want to have next week or the week after that. Yeah,
I'm just pretty much on a day to day basis

(27:54):
right now.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
Well, the other thing, and I want to talk about
what you do. The reason why I wanted you on
the show is you're constantly giving back. You never forget
where you came from. You do the stuff with foster care.
Would you be so kind to tell the audience about
the program you do and all that great stuff, because
it's quite impressive.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
So I started a foundation called that she Ready Foundation,
And I started it because when I was in a
foster care system, law was getting moved around from house
to house and all my stuff was in trash bags
and it made me feel like garbage being moved around.
And I'll never forget the day somebody gave me a suitcase,
and it made me feel like a person, like I'm

(28:35):
a traveler, like I'm on an adventure. I'm a visitor
in these people's homes as opposed to being garbage being
moved around. And it changed the way that I thought
about myself. It changed the way that I carried myself.
And I remember, I'm like fourteen years old, and I'm
saying to my was, man, if I ever figure out

(28:58):
a way to make sure no kid feels like garbage,
that is what I'm going to do. I'm going to
figure out a way if I ever get any kind
of power.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
And when I started working at the.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Airlines, it down Alaska Airlines. But when I was working
at Alaska Airlines and they put me down in the
baggage department, I started learning that you know, if they
couldn't find the owner of a bag after six months,
or if the bags weren't played after six months, they

(29:33):
would option them off. They would sell them off, sell
the belongings, all that stuff, like to thrift shops or whatever.
So I would take the ones that was like slightly damaged,
like the handles broken or the one wheel is missing,
and it costs like two dollars to fix it or
five dollars to fix it, not go get it fixed,
And I would take it to the different group homes

(29:55):
and facilities, and I was like twenty one doing this.
It might be part of while I'm no longer work
there anyways, and I started. I left there and I
started working at a youth center and working directly with kids,
and that was a great way for me to figure.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Out how to give back.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
And then you know, my comedy career has taking off,
the acting careers taking off, and.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
I found myself with a little bit more power.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
So I started the foundation and we started off with
just giving suitcases to foster youth into like different departments
and children's services all over the country, putting suitcases in
their offices. So when you take a child away from
their home, they can have their things in a suitcase.
That's theirs that they feel like they have as they're moving.

(30:52):
Because you're taking you're ripping them away from what they
know to be normal, telling them it's not. And instead
of setting them around like garbage like little hobos, you
can give them a suitcase and makee feel like a traveler.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Visitors.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
It's beautiful students learning, and so we've been doing that
and now we've advanced to the point where we're we
got an internship program where we're getting these jobs and
careers that they want to be involved in. We're helping
with housing at the life skills classes, which is my

(31:34):
favorite part of everything that we do, just teaching them
how to be you know, a productive, happy, functioning citizens,
like like just the basics that your parents are supposed
to teach you, plus a little extra like you know, uh,
how to handle yourself in the workplace, how I handle

(31:57):
emotions while dating? Shit shit that don't nobody wants to
really take. I mean, you pay crazy money for in seminars.
You know, we're teaching them how to how to have
your emotions in the workplaces. I think it's very important,
you know. I take that class myself. And then there's
you know, how to behave in a professional party environment,

(32:21):
and all these different things proper etiquette. Now I take
the etiquette classes, and then how to pay your how
to fill out a rental application, how to buy a car,
what is life assurance and why should you have it?

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Even if you are going to lift forever?

Speaker 3 (32:40):
That's beautiful, that I love that, and I think it's
the most the people that come from places that you
come from, that I come from, that have turned their
life around. They're always on the front lines of service
every time. It's the same stuff every time. That's I
want to go. I'd like to maybe go visit that
program and be inspired. Sounds very cool, that's awesome. Yeah,

(33:03):
I want to check that out. Here's the thing, talk
about the message of some people see a broken suitcase
and see a broken suitcase. You see a broken suitcase
and figure two bucks to get the working And I'm
gonna give it to people. Talk about finding solutions. There's
always a way. Can you talk about that?

Speaker 1 (33:22):
Well, yeah, there's always a way to resolve a situation.
I I don't know. I'll try to find the beauty
and everything and then if I can't, if I absolutely
can't find a beauty, then I'll just let it go.
But and that's probably why it took me so long

(33:43):
to remember my Homi lover friend. But but yeah, I'm
always trying to find a resolution, and I think it's
I think we should always try to do that. I
mean something, if it's broken, broken, okay, let's not try
to figure that, But it's just the handle, it's just
the will. You can get it a replace, you can

(34:06):
fix it. And uh, I'm even like that with my vehicles.
And I used to be like that way to a
fault my relationships.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
But I've learned, you know, like I said, my heart is.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Very very valuable and very fairly fragile. So I've learned
to keep a better arms distance with that one. But
people grow and they evolved. Give, but I both forget.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Yes, get right right, Yes. Forgiveness doesn't mean reconciliation. Yes.
So what's what? What? What books been the greatest inspiration
for you?

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Oh? I love Luise Hayes books.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
You say it's right place, right time, doing the right thing.
Give you a little little wayte right back at you. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Yeah, you can hear your mind, hear your body. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
My affairs aren't keeping with infinite wisdomne guided by divine intelligence.
The artic spirit inspires my mind and flowers through my actions.
Life lies open to me, rich, full and abundant.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
Mm hmm mmmm.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Other books that, uh, I'm saying, the Bible, the Taua.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
I've read the Kowan. I like some parts of it.
Sometarts I'll be confused, and I feel like we're all
three of those books. Some parts I like and some
parts I'm like, this don't make no sense to me.
And I said, yeah, that can, James to be confusing
as hell. Sometimes you like that just that without the chapter.

(35:57):
But is my contradictions here and then, But you know what,
it's still it's a good read. It's like as I
feel I feel like when I read like religious stuff. Uh,
I'm it's kind of like soap operas to me, all
of them. That is kind of full of some drama.

(36:18):
You just got to figure out what the drama is
on some of them and some of them the dramas
write in your face.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
That book, Break New World.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
That book made me think about like life a little
different in how you can really like when you get
a group of people together, you can engineer some stuff
and change change the world. And I just really like
the concept of being able to take a pill and
have an orgasm immediately. But that's not that they haven't

(36:52):
figured that one out yet. So when that was I'm
gonna die, I'm gonna try that. When I'm seventy is
when I'm gonna do drugs.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
Yes, seventies the number that's not what that's probably a
good say what made you get sober? And how long
you been sober?

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Now I'm sorry, but for a year and a half
I have missed drink any alcohol in the Yeah a year,
not not a year and a half. November twenty third
was the last time I drank alcohol. Of twenty twenty.

Speaker 4 (37:22):
Two, twenty three, Okay, it is twenty twenty five now, yeah, yeah,
twenty twenty three.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
But what made you get sober?

Speaker 1 (37:37):
My knees and I was always tired. Oh, and I
was getting drug tested and alcohol tested, and then I
was just like, oh, life is way better without any
of this stuff, Like, yes, way better. I haven't woke

(38:02):
up next to nobody ugly.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
Oh that's a benefit.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
Toxic relationships I think I don't have. If I have any,
I haven't been giving them any attention. Uh yeah, toxic
people fall off when you're not toxic.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
I've heard that that that's that's the benefit of you.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
And you know what else?

Speaker 1 (38:26):
It is crazy you don't miss them? Mmmm at least
I don't. And maybe maybe that's me. Maybe because I've
been in and out of so many different homes. Maybe
I maybe once you're gone you're gone, so and do.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
You miss alcohol? It has been hard for you to
stay sober?

Speaker 2 (38:46):
No, it's been easy.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
I wasn't really drinking much alcohol before, maybe like two
or three times a month, and like.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Not really getting drunk.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
But I noticed, like after a week, I noticed my
knees didn't hurt no more, my back didn't ache the same,
my elbows didn't ache like, my face wasn't as puffy
when I woke up. My my fingers wasn't all so slow,
and I couldn't bend up. And then I just watch

(39:19):
so much weight super quick too, and.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
I eat a lot.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Uh, I'm like, oh, my body was allergic to it.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Probably nice, definitely for sure.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
Yes, aloys have an allergy. That's that's the problem, exactly right.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
I'm allergic to it.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
And so when people would be like, oh, you want
to drink, you want to drink, I'm like, oh, no,
I'm good.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Let me get a ginger beer, let me get a
ginger ale. Let me just get some water. Uh. And
then uh, you know, they'd be like, oh, why you're
not drinking anybody eggs?

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Oh you uh, and I'll be like, no, I'm allergic
to that shit or oh if it was people I
really didn't, I really wasn't feeling.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
I would be like, oh, yeah, I'm.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Trying to get pregnant, and I get drying when I
drink alcohol. So that's how you get little girls. I
want a little boys, So I'm gonna stay sober.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
You're a genius diffusing difficult conversations. It's quite a gift
you have.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Thank you, Thank you.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
Yeah, that's a very savvy how you've It's remarkable, quite honestly.
Let me ask you this. When are you your happiest.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
When I'm on the stage, when I'm performing.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
Yeah, tell me about that.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Yeah, I'm my happiest on stage because I feel like
that's where I'm the safest because nobody could really hurt
me up there. Even if somebody did hurt me, there's
a room full of witnesses, Like, yeah, I guess I'm
happy with all the eyeballs on me.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
Do you do you feel safe in the world when
someone hurts you? What do you mean by that?

Speaker 1 (41:10):
I mean it seems like always someone that's trying to
inflict pain or trying to hurt somebody else.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Me in particular.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
I used to think when I was younger, I used
to think that God put me on this earth just
to be people's punching bags, just to absorb.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Somebody else has.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
Hurt, their complaints, their grits, their grief, their sadness. I
just felt like a big fucking trash bag that was
just get himself with people's anger. Every time somebody hit me,
said something mean to me, Like I used to hold

(41:53):
on to all that shit like and I just feel like, oh,
I just got get them to smile. I just gotta get.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Them to loud and and then they won't hurt me.
M h.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
Because I started noticing like people didn't when people were
funny or brought joy. And I noticed that with my mom,
like she would go from angry to lighten up to happy,
you know, to surprise happiness like joy. She'll have an

(42:32):
attitude and this you can hear sandbad voice on the TV,
and then she just smiled, sindbad you know.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
But who's trying to hurt you?

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Now?

Speaker 3 (42:46):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (42:46):
The Internet, the spiritual warfare.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
Some days I wish I didn't know how to read again,
how to read.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
I wouldn't see all this bullshit and be able to
read the comments that my feelings be hurt sometimes, but nowadays.
At first, in the earlier years of the internet, my
feelings will be really have it. But nowadays I say,
these last two years, I'm just like whatever.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
But that gets you jammed up when people say mean
things about you.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
It used to.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Because I'm from the nineteen hundreds, and remember you remember
the same don't let your mouth write a check that
you'll ask came back in the nineteen hundreds.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
We would if you talk shit, we could roll up
on you.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
I remember being a young woman rolling up to you know,
this girl's house and her grandma asked in her door,
and me said, where your granddaughter at? She said bye,
blah blah by me, and then the granddaughter come outside
and she said what she said. And then I did
what I did, and I said, keep my name out.

(44:00):
You'll know and the girls that you don't talk nothing
about me.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
Now there's a lot of cowards.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
With well now you get sued for that.

Speaker 5 (44:09):
So yeah, and violence is bad, yeah, horrible, even though
that is what built America.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
So no violence with your answer, any weapons of any sorts.
Just use your words. Then your words.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
Can get you sued too, yes they can.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
So I try my best I've been learning to stay
off the internet because that is I believe the the
grounds where the war is being fought, spiritual warfare going on.
And I have noticed if I'll watch certain things or
read certain things, it attacks my spirit.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
Well, you'll appreciate this. One of the big sayings that
I say is nobody can blow my light out unless
I give them permission exactly.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
But sometimes you don't give us.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
Sometimes you look at something and something will happen and
it all funk with your life. You know, I might
not blow it up, but it might be wow, shivering
me different.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
Well, that's that's the world we live in. That's I
accept that you got to be strong, be strong, but
I will get my ass handed to me. But I
will learn up and I will get up every time,
and I'll do.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
It right right. That's why you're weak.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
Gotta be strong, long, go ahead, a good oil and
olive boil.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
That yeah, I'm saying, I do.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
I know exactly what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
And if you're not, if you, if you lower on oil,
if you if your fuel is low, if you're weak,
it's weak. You might not want to subject yourself to
places where yo, she can.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Get blown up.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
Amen, Amen, Amen. So I think you'll tell me if
I'm right or wrong in this. Part of the reason
you keep her light strong is your I get you're
very connected to nature, very That's that's it.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
And my nails is dirty right now because I was
outside replanting some lettuce and stuff. That's part of while
I'm so cold. But I love that I was out
there and planting some baby lettuces.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
And and tell me about all your bees.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
What you want to know their names?

Speaker 3 (46:36):
Not no, but I want. I love, I love. I
love the idea of you and a bee outfit, bee
keeper suit out there doing your thing. That's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
I only uh beekeeper suit that much. But I sit
out there every morning with the bees, uh and like
talk to them and stuff. One of my hives, though,
got poisoned, and I've been kind of sad. I have
two hives and I'm like looking at the empty space

(47:08):
right now. I had to clear it out and like
clean the box and stuff. The whole hive died. I
don't know what that means spiritually.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
Ooh, that's something that could be something very deep honestly. Yeah, Wow,
another hive is thriving. It is wintertime. But I think
they were poisoned. I'm pretty sure the heart was poisoned.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
I think they went like I know, some neighbors down
the block was tinting their house. You know, it just
takes one or two bees to eat something, and ain't
they and they bring it back to the hide.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
What how did you come in contact with that?

Speaker 2 (47:44):
What?

Speaker 3 (47:44):
What was like all of a sudden to have bees
in my house?

Speaker 2 (47:47):
If you don't know about the Black Girl Bee.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
Crew, that's good, that's that's your next book.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
For a second.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
Sorry, I was still bad about to be Oh, I'm sorry.
There's a little company called the Flamingo Estates. They do
like a farm to table harvest boxes and stuff, and
they had a thing going, a campaign going for their
nonprofit side to raise money to get food to people

(48:20):
where they were selling jars of honey from celebrities backyards.
So they asked me if I would keep some bees
for like six months. I said sure, and they had
a beekeeper coming all that, and I started talking to
the bees and hanging out with the bees because I
had saw a video of that said that the hum

(48:42):
of a beehive is that an h is an h
Z tone or the key of.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
C HG h z tone of four.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
Forty hertz or four twenty herts or something like that,
and it heals PTSD. Their sound can help ETSD. So
I was like, oh, let me get up against that
high and see what happens. And I've been stung now
once and I sing to them. I talk to them.

(49:19):
At first, when I first started going out there to them,
I was like hitting them with the smoke and stuff.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
Nowadays, I don't even hit them with the smoke.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
I just you know, smoke my weed and I'm just like, no, no,
But I hit them with this lavender or sage and
just sit out there. But literally, I'll just start singing
in there, like come and take the top off the
hive and just sit right next to them and listen
to that and sing my songs or tell them stories

(49:49):
or cry or just listen, chilling listen.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
You know here, on top of all your gifts, you're
also a bee whisperer.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
I don't know about a bee whisper, but I do
feel like if I told them to stink somebody, they.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
Would do it.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
Oh I bet. Wow. Some people don't want to get
on your bad side. What pisses you off in life.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
Isn't it funny how the things that pissed me off
also can make me laugh? Yes, when somebody bait and
switches me, can you share one recently and what you
learned from and how do you overcame it?

Speaker 3 (50:29):
Oh, that's a big auci for me too.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
I feel like it happens every year, especially in this business.
One that particularly had me upset was I was told
that I was doing something for charity and it was
just you know, you just gotta show out and just say,
you know, just give this short speech and that's it.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
There's no no.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
Press, just you're gonna take about fifteen pictures.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
That's it. That was not it. That was not it
at all.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
And the charity was not in alignment like what they
told me the charity was.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
It was not.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
It was completely different than what they told me it was.
There was reporters all in my face asking me questions.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
Do you do you go to heartbreak and rage? Because
that's what happens for me. I go to heartbreak. That's
someone I call it the Fredo moment. You know Freido right,
It's like fuck, that was a fucking Fredo moment. I
came here to help, to be generous, and you're running
some game and hustle for your own benefit and then
ghetto scene comes out.

Speaker 5 (51:54):
Yeah, bestly, is that what happens for you? Yeah, my
feelings here, me and my heart beat broke. Then I'll
be just trying to stay in the positive as much
as I can. And then as soon as I feel
like I'm in a place where I can do it, yeah,

(52:20):
I I yeah, like I probably go on. I probably
will talk shit for anywhere from five to thirty minutes.
It'll be five to thirty minutes of pure Yeah, just yeah,
my and my feelings.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
Yeah, I take an emotional shit, I call it and
and others we'll call it rage. I'm calling it a detox,
right exactly response to trauma. Yeah, I'm calling it a cleanse.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
I'm my cry. I might cry because I'm so angry.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
And I used to get really mad at myself for crying,
but now I know crying is a removal of old
beliefs and a replacement of new ones, Okay, And it
could be for good or bad reasons, and it is
the best way to communicate. It's the first way you
ever were able to communicate and it's a universal form

(53:24):
of communication. Humans and animals all cry.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
Mm hmmmm. I cry a lot. I cry all the time.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
Yeah, I'm crying right now.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
Yeah, I can tell it's beautiful, you know, make.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
My eyes so pink.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
Because I'm in my you know, you kicked up like
four memories core things that you know don't really tap
into often.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
And then I wanted to get emotions that I had
to go.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
I had to be the parent inside my head and go, no,
not yet, you can't you Okay, yes, you have passed. Dad,
we realized that. Now we can cry about that in
a little bit. But now, right now, while you're talking
to your future potential husk.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
Sure you want to hear prediction I'm gonna make for you. Yes,
you're gonna win Academy Award for playing out of James.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
That would be fire. You feel that, yes, and lets
m ma, it's come alone.

Speaker 3 (54:36):
You could do it?

Speaker 2 (54:39):
Yeah, I know I couldn't.

Speaker 3 (54:40):
Yeah, and you should just make that happen so you
don't produce it. I might have to, I say, do it, daddy,
no bait switch with me.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
Don't let your mouth Friday. Don't let your mouth Friday.
Check your ass can't cash, So listen, we're gonna wrap up.
It's time to say goodbye for now. It's been a
really incredible time speaking with you. What are your final
things you want to say to people right now?

Speaker 1 (55:07):
You have the power to have selective hearing. If the
world is loud, and you can turn it off and
start listening to your insides, which is kind of gross
when you really get quiet and hear your stomach going
and your heart going and your lungs extending, and you

(55:30):
can hear a gurgle.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Bo.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
When I hear the gurgle of my body, I'm like, yo,
I really don't need to talk to nobody else.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
I could talk to myself and calm yourself.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
When the world gets loud, I think it's time to
go into self and like kind of like a caterpillar
goes into the cocoon and then it comes out a butterfly. Sometimes,
when you feel like the world is super loud, it's
time to go hibernate. It's time to go dorm in
a little bit. It's time to like sit in a

(56:10):
quiet place and listen to what's going on in here,
in your in your in your heart locker, in your ribs,
and on the inside, and.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
I have to do that every single day for myself, because, uh,
when I go outside my home, it's like I'm on
and I don't turn off really until I'm alone, and
then it's like a charge up, Like I don't really

(56:47):
turn off until I come in the house. When I
come in the house or I'm in my car by myself,
like in that quiet place, then I charge and large.
If I don't charge up, I'm not really a nice person.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
You can tell that.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
And putting me on a charger were gonna get to
go side. I didn't get to quiet down, and I
didn't get to make space for what I do want
to receive from this loud, crazy, wild world. It's okay
sometimes sometimes people are like, yeah, I don't know if

(57:26):
it's say to me to be quiet it it is.
Sometimes you need to shut your mouth and when your
thoughts come. This is my favorite thing too. I could
tell when i'm when my body is super toxic. Also,
I noticed, since I stopped drinking alcohol, my thoughts are
nowhere near as toxic as they used to be. It's
like mean or nasty to myself or to others as

(57:48):
I used to be, and because I'm not in no
physical pain like I used to be. That alcohol causes
all kind of pains and the cost is really horrible thoughts.
But when you go inside yourself and you start having
all this, you're gonna be having like thoughts like a
movie like boom boom boom, all these movie thoughts, movie
crazy stuff. I try to let I let a negative

(58:09):
thought come up, and then I'm like, how can I
counter act that thought with a positive thought? Then I
get to making myself laugh and it's hilarious. I'll be like, ooh, Tiffany,
you getting fat? And then I'll be like, but look like, yeah,

(58:33):
whenever I say something mean to me, I gotta follow
it up with like a little compliment. And then I
start noticing that I don't even be mean to me
like I used to, because I just just hit hitting
with the good compliments, and then the world hits you
with the good compliments. So yeah, it's work.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
And I don't know. I think your question, if it
made anything.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
You answered it beautifully, And uh, this has been extraordinary
blessing meeting you and spending time with you today, and
I want to say thank you very much. The Sinal
Show is a production of iHeart Podcasts, hosted by me
Cina McFarlane, produced by pod People in twenty eighth. Av
Our lead producer is Keith Cornlick, Our executive producer is

(59:14):
Lindsay Hoffman. Marketing lead is Ashley Weaver. Thank you so
much for listening. We'll see you next week.
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