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March 30, 2020 • 23 mins

Series creator Bret Wood presents more scenes that were removed from The Seventh Daughter prior to its release.

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
I'm Brett Wood, the writer and director of The Seventh Daughter,
and I thank you for coming back for the second
of three bonus episodes, one in which I'll share some
scenes that were removed from the podcast prior to its release.
M h after what is now episode five Paradise, there

(00:48):
was to be an episode entitled The Lecture. It was
an episode devoted mostly to Albert von Schrienk Notzing. I'm
thoroughly fascinated by this person. Yes, he was a real person,
and I wanted to represent more of the research he
was conducting, which I did by quoting directly and extensively
from his book Phenomena of Materialization. The English language publication

(01:12):
was nineteen twenty, so it's perfectly situated in the period
we're dealing with. One purpose of the Lecture was to
explain what a cabinet sitting was, how it works, the
dimensions of a cabinet, the process of performing a seyance,
and a more detailed description of teleplasm and the kinds
of ghosts that appear in episode eight. The intention was

(01:34):
that by having this lengthy primer in cabinet sittings, the
listener would better understand what's going on in the episode
that would come next the Cabinet. But it turned out
listeners didn't really need all that explanation, and there really
was no reason for the descriptions of other Cabinet sittings
other than to satisfy my love for medical curiosities. Gentleman, gentlemen,

(02:02):
come to order if you please. I recognize you were
all quite eager to listen to today's lecture, and it
is with great pride and no small expense at the
mid Atlantic College of Medicine brings to you are esteemed

(02:22):
guest more than ten years. Baron von Shrink is sought
truth in the fantastical, determined to provide a scientific explanation
for the inexplicable. Since nineteen o nine he has attended
seances and cabinet sittings by the world's most celebrated mediums,

(02:48):
blowing the most advanced scientific and photographic tools. Is documented
telekinetic phenomena, teleplast phenomena, and established the principles by which
mediumistic occurrences are to day substantiated. Welcome, Fry, have one

(03:11):
Shrink not si. Thank you Dr Hubert for the flattering introduction.
If you've come today to hear my pronouncement as to
the existence of a psychical realm what we come and

(03:33):
be called the beyond. I am afraid I must disappoint
you as impressive and convincing as are the many psychical
manifestations I have witnessed. The evidence remains inconclusive, but I
can tell you without reservation that we also cannot disprove

(03:59):
the existence of a spiritual realm. Far too much evidence
exists for us to dismiss such a thing based on
a lack of physical, tangible, quantifiable evidence, or the exposure
of solatans whose selfish greed clouds are research with their

(04:19):
theatrical illusions and parlor tricks. The Charlatan is the enemy
of science and must be exposed, must be disproven, and
must be driven in shame back to the den of
thieves from thence they emerged. Today, I will present to

(04:43):
you case histories of two mediums who have the potential
to throw open the doors of perception and allow us
to interact with the psychical realm. If you will deem
the lights please, I have prepared a series of lantern
slides to illustrate Plate one. You are no doubt already

(05:13):
familiar with this woman known publicly as Eva See undoubtedly
the most gifted and consistently successful spirit medium. More than
a hundred scientific men have had the pleasure of observing
Eva Sees talents. Plate two is a diagram of the

(05:39):
parlor in which the sittings occur. The medium sits there,
encased on three sides by an enclosure of black drapes
known as the cabinet. The medium's hands remain visible at
old times, usually gripping the sides of the curtains that

(06:01):
frame the front side of the cabinet. Plate three. Eva
is brought to the cabinet, already submerged in a hypnotic state.
A female assistant guides her to her seat in the cabinet.
She closes the front curtains, careful that her hands remained

(06:23):
visible at old times, and opens them. Then she feels
the materialization is about to commence. Plate four. Just before
the phenomenon occurs, painful sensations are experienced on the part
of the medium. She sighs and groans and recalls the

(06:47):
condition of a woman in the act of parturition. These
paroxysms vary from expressions of misery to exstas e. Then
the materializations do appear. It usually occurs as follows. Plate five.

(07:15):
A substance emanates from the body of the medium. It
externalizes itself and is a morphous or polymorphous. In the
first instance, its appearance is generally announced by the presence
of fluid, viteent luminous flakes. The substance itself emanates from

(07:39):
the whole body of the medium, but especially from the
natural orifices and the extremities, from the top of the head,
from the breasts and the tips of the fingers. The
most usual origin, which is most easily observed, is from

(08:00):
the mouth. Place six. The substance occurs, sometimes as a
true protoplastic mass, sometimes in the form of numerous thinned threads,
sometimes as cords of various thicknesses, or in the form

(08:21):
of a woven material with indefinite and irregular outlines. Sometimes
it moves slowly up or down across the medium, on
her shoulders or her breast, or on her knees, with

(08:42):
a creeping motion resembling that of a reptile. Plate seven.
A mass of teleplasm emerging from the medium's hands. Plate
eight e merchants of teleplastic material like luminous cloudy ribbons

(09:09):
suspended from the mouth and nose of the medium. Plate nine,
A nebulous mass has formed on the right neck and
shoulder of the medium, taking the form of a second
human head. The publication of these findings by myself and

(09:36):
others has caused skeptics to question the veracity of the
images and the materializations themselves. My response has been to
impose even greater controls upon the conditions under vich the
sittings occur, and to make greater demands upon the medium

(09:57):
herself to dispel any skepticism there may be. Eva C
has consented to perform her sittings nude except for a
black cloth draped over her abdomen and feet. If any

(10:17):
medium can rival the materializations produced by Eva C, that
person would be Stana Slava. P I first examined her
when she was eighteen years of age, still a virgin,
not yet distracted by the obligations of family, and as

(10:37):
a result in fum command of her psychical abilities. After
the sitting, Stanaslava submitted herself to a lady physician, and
this physician provided me with a virginity certificate concerning the
medium Eva C. By comparison is twenty six years and

(11:01):
passed what is considered scientifically speaking, a medium's prime plate. Twelve.
Stanislava arrived in the parlor wearing a blue dressing gown
nothing more. Before every sitting, the young girl went into

(11:23):
a separate room, accompanied by the author's wife or some
other lady, who superintended her toilette. There she undressed completely
and put on the seance costume, a black treacle suit
which has been tailored to conform to her body. This gaunment,

(11:47):
prepared at the suggestion of a Paris physician, consists of
one piece and has only one opening at the back,
from the vaist to the neck. The feet are enclosed
as stockings vns. The medium is inside. The back of
the costume is laced together from the junction of the

(12:09):
tights at the buttocks up to the color, and the
knot is lead sealed. The medium's mouth was closely examined
by means of a spatula to which an electric lamp
was attached. Her sin is cavities were tested by having
her blow her nose horsefully through a handkerchief. One lastile,

(12:34):
then another. It is the application of signs to determine
with absolute certainty that no deception by means of hidden
objects is taking place. This is, after all, science, not
simple more bi curiosity. After each sitting, I provide an

(12:58):
emetic of my own form relation, which enables me to
examine the contents of the woman's stomach. A black hood
is placed over her head and sewn into the color
of the suit in stitches tight enough that a fingertip

(13:18):
cannot be pushed between them. White gloves to preserve visibility,
and the lamplight are sown onto the sleeves of the garment.
Thus attired completely encased in transparent fabric from head to foot,
the medium is let to their cabinet. Hypnotization performed by

(13:45):
my self. River, keep your eyes fixed on the glow
of the candle. Then I moved the candle. Follow the
flame with your eyes, while keeping your head perfectly still.
And though your eyes remain open, your vision feel duck
in your mind begins to recede into the shadows of

(14:06):
the unconscious. The medium's hands grasped the curtain and remained
visible during the whole sitting. Suddenly she commences to vapor

(14:35):
names muscular efforts, and I can cries of pain. The
hands become cool. Efforts continue mediumistic labor. A vite about

(15:00):
half a yard long, penetrates the veil before our eyes
and places itself upon her left upper arm. At the
next opening of the curtain, a substance hangs in broad

(15:22):
strips out of the mouth, and at the lower end
a finger seems to be attached to it. Do you
also see it? Look at the bottom, just the tip
of a finger. A finger tip has materialized from the teleplasm,

(15:48):
a thick, soft cloud of solid substance diaphonos luminous, simply
extra and up. The pain is unbearable, saslava. You've performed wfully.

(16:09):
Thank you, Thank you. After the lecture, we find that
not all medical authorities share of one shrink's belief in
psychical realms. The headmaster provided a welcome voice of skepticism

(16:29):
in the face of Albert's blind faith. Have a seat, Albert,
you have our little talk before they whisk you away
to some dinner engagement. That was quite some lecture you
gave today, Thank you, sir. Sensation. One might say it's

(16:51):
read to have the entire gallery food students standing in
the aisles, and the more lectures like this, and we
may need to admission I'll take that as a compliment, Sir,
you shouldn't necessarily I beg your pardon. It's just that

(17:13):
when something attracts this much public attention, is this sensational?
One asked a question whether it is legitimate field of study.
I do believe you're jealoist. I can't help but feel
that this area of study does not long in an
academy of matters. Dr Hubert. This is academic inquiry. This

(17:38):
is science calling something science does not make its science.
Let's be honest with one another. What's your studying as
theoretical at best? But how can you properly investigate something
for which there is no physical levity? In my I've
compelled volumes. My phenomenal Materialist is his five d pages long.

(18:03):
It provides page after page of evidence. Besides, you can't
see or touch electromagnetic waves. There was the evidence of
gravity before Isaac Newton. A heliocentric solar system was there,
but people didn't yet know how to interpret it. And
the evidence is here, and I'm trying to develop a

(18:26):
means of understanding it. Don't uset yourself, but I don't
have my work ridiculed by someone of such narrow vision.
My vision may be narrower, but at least my eyes
are open. What do you mean by that? I'm sorry
if i hair, but at times your confidence in these
spirit medium's views misguided. The ghostly faces she summons her

(18:52):
obviously photographs cut from newspapers and hidden about her persons.
It's no possible place since which she hide them. She
has been thoroughly searched, either by myself or Madame Pison,
who usually examines the intimate areas of Eva's boss. You
can see for yourself. There are pieces of paper, and

(19:15):
when you publish the images, there were skeptics who located
the additions of the papers from which they were taken.
Dr Hubert. She is producing an earthly representation of something
that has no physical form. For us to be able
to see it with our own eyes, it has to

(19:36):
assume some physical substance that we can understand. Paper is
a substance we can see. So the spirit materialization often
takes the form of ordinary paper. But in one photograph
would you yourself published? We see headlines printed on the

(19:59):
back of the paper. The apparition, whatever you want to
call it, how do you possibly explain? Yes, I have
said the materializations travel through Eva, she physical licensed them,
and she must do this by conjuring materials that resemble

(20:21):
materials from our world familiar to Eva and the participants
in the sitting. The teleprism that On curls from her
nose and mouth may look like Cartonville, but that is
the spirit assuming a physical form, a physiccle form that

(20:41):
our minds can actually see and try to comprehend. Why
are you shaking your head because I am trying very
hard to understand you, but cannot. Am I so difficult
to understand the students in lectures seem to have You
are either the biggest fool the world has ever known

(21:04):
to be taken in by all this humbug dare you Sechurch?
Or you are the most clever purveyor of humbug the
world has ever known. I mean, Phineas T. Barnum is
an amateur compared to you, Baron von Schrink. If this
is the case, in some part of me would like

(21:25):
to commend you. Well, if you excuse me, there is
a third option. You believe in it because you want
it to be true, either because the professional rewards it
could bring to you, and because you were so desperate

(21:47):
for some assurance of the existence of an afterlife and
a spirit world. That you have convinced yourself it is real,
and you will not allow yourself to entertain the slightest
doubt as to its authenticity. Mm hmm, which are you,
Baron von Schrink. I love the world of the Seventh

(22:10):
Daughter and would love to have the opportunity someday to
further flesh it out, tell the backstory of Caglios, reveal
what happens next to Pearl. Hopefully I Heart Radio will
consider the show successful enough to warrant another season. If
you would like that to happen, one simple thing you
can do is go on iTunes or Apple podcasts and
leave a star rating and even write a review. It

(22:33):
helps to show that The Seventh Daughter has listeners who
care about the characters and want to hear more from them.
Now there's one more bonus episode to come. It doesn't
present more deleted scenes. No, it's something really special for
the super fan and I'm not going to say anything
more about it. Just tune in you'll see This is
Brett Wood and I thank you for listening to these

(22:55):
bonus episodes and for supporting the Seventh Daughter as a whole.
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