College Football Bowl Previews: Part Deux!

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the solid verbal pull for me. I'm a man,
I'm forty.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
I've heard so many players say, well, I want to
be happy. You want to be happy for a day?

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Edo State is that? Whoo? Whoom and down and tie,
Dan Robustein, We've got Bowl Preview Part duh on today's episode.
We did a big old Bowl preview a couple episodes
back to listen to part one if you want to
get caught up on that front. We did our playoff preview,

(00:34):
which drop to the feed out on Tuesday, and now
on this here Thursday, before all hell breaks loose, so
we have our first round of the college football playoff.
Some of you may be listening to this after the fact,
after they've played a game or two. Nonetheless, Bowl Preview
Part two. We've got games that start on Saturday, the
twenty eighth of December and run the full way through

(00:58):
bowl season. So these games that are non playoff games,
we have given them their own show. We're going to
talk through all of those matchups and more trophies. You
know where I come down on that sort of thing.
Dan got a lot to discuss here. We had an
hour and forty five minute show.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Oh, man, I don't know if I have the energy
for that. Again, Ti, I'm old. I was a young
man back then. We were young and full of life. Yes, yeah,
Bowl preview part Well, it was a big one. We're gonna,
I think, cut some of the news out here. We're
gonna skip right to the bulls shortly, my friend, how
goes it today? You look very dapper, Thank you very much.
If you're watching on YouTube and at an enhanced bit rate,

(01:35):
perhaps then yeah, I'm wearing a very rare button down shirt. Situation,
long story, real rough day in court for me. Ty
real didn't go the way I thought.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
No, I was not in court.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
No, No, Memphis West Virginia talk. You don't want to
Memphis get into eleven wins forty two thirty seven over
West Virginia. Can you believe a quarterback laid it down
on West Virginia for the only the tenth time here?

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Shocker? I know we're all very surprised. Yes, there will
be an episode at some point coming here in the
very near future where we recap some of the bull action.
But congratulations to Memphis.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
This is the Scooters Frisco situation.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
This is the Frisco situation. If you want to call
it that. Yeah, the Scooter's Frisco situation. We had a
lot of points, We did a lot of thoughts. Yeah, well,
we're going to do a buwl recap later on going
out to play Bowlbingo dot com. Here is the way
this works. If you are listening to this episode on Thursday,
December of the nineteenth, or really at any point before

(02:35):
the games start up on the twenty first, you will
have an opportunity to enter for a week. One of
Bowl Bingo runs for a week from the twenty first
through the twenty seventh. We are going to on this
episode start unveiling some of the other picks that you
can put on your Bingo card. You will also see
another Bingo card go live shortly. We're going to have

(02:57):
some overlapping Bingo cards in a sense, so that you
stay out in front of all the action you could
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all you got to do is sign up for the
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(03:18):
out a Bingo card of six things. On that bingo card.
If you get all six right, obviously you'll be a winner.
More come, more to come on that front. What that means?

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Okay, are we going to reveal our picks or do
we not want to influence? I made my picks yesterday.
Oh you did.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
It was very difficult. It is difficult, isn't it. But
it's fun.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
It's it's so fun. It's very different. It's tricky. I
loved it.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
I think we should just dive in here. Man, let's
do it. The bulge with the bulls is here all
the more give me that fuck hord Dan. Let's talk
bull preview Part Dulla. Yeah, I am dismayed by what
I am finding on the trophy front and this batch
of bulls, which is I mean, there are some bangers

(04:03):
in here, don't get me wrong, but it's just so
apparent to me that we are living through the lazy
Lombardi era with regard to trophies here, and someone needs
to speak up about it. I have elected myself to
be that person I was hoping for. More. I will
talk through each and every one of these bowl trophies,
I have had the opportunity to go back and look

(04:24):
at them again. I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
I think it's one of the early ones. We're talking about,
the Fenway Ball, the Fanway Ball, it's the first all
we're talking about. It was I would have liked more
of a green monstery presence to it, but I can
also appreciate the shape of it is very Fenway issues.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Well, see here's the thing with the trophy. Okay, go
back and listen. You can hear my rant on the
last show. Yeah, everybody's doing the silver the gold football
atop the pedestal, and all they really do is change
the pedestal. Yeah. Now, in this case the Wi Sabi
Fenway Bowl.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
It's like I had thirteen minutes of notice to find
a trophy before the game. Kickoff is in a half hour.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Exactly anything you confined, go to the dollar store, find
a trophy. This is what like the Myrtle Beach Bowl.
This is I swear, this is what sixty eight Ventures did.
They're renowned for their real estate development. It looks like
this trophy came from somebody's white elephant. All right, this
is not exactly a creative spin on a trophy, a
crystal bowl that you put punch or shrimp cocktail in, right,

(05:26):
But this is a quality effort from the Wasabi Fenway
Bowl people. They played this game December the twenty eighth,
eleven am Eastern time, bright and early. It is Yukon,
it is North Carolina. North Carolina's favored by two and
a half points. I think what they were doing here
with this Bowl trophy is they're like, we've got a
cool venue. Let's make the base look like Fenway Park,

(05:46):
even if we're still doing the football thing at the top, right,
just make the bas look like Fenway Park. There is
room for improvement. I could go for a little bit
more detail in that base stand, maybe some inlaid wood,
something to give it more texture. But I'm not going
to knock the effort. I like that they're at least
steering into what this game represents.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Some sort of hybrid home plate football something that you're
playing this bowl football game in a baseball venue. It
would have been nice to split the difference there, maybe
taking some of Boston lore, maybe a tri corner hat,
something like that, like some Paul Revere illusion. I don't know.
I just something would have been cool. But you know what,

(06:27):
here's what you can do. If you are any of
these Bowl games, or let's say you are in charge
of the Bowl consortium. You hire Tie and me at
a flat fee, flat fee, we won't brainstorm, not just
a flat fee. Tie's got a rolodex full of silversmiths,
I do. Everybody knows that about him, and let's let's
bang out some memorable trophies.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
This is a game again between Yukon and North Carolina.
Omarion Hampton has declared for the draft, the star running
back for UNC. I have not seen if he's opting out,
though asumption believe he is. The assumption is, yes, I
believe he is as well. I did not see that definitively,
But obviously we're covering a lot here, so I may
have missed that. The subplot I'm actually most interested in

(07:11):
is whether Belichick's going to be back in Boston for
this one.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Oh true. Yeah. By the way, he will not participate
in the Fenway Ball, per the Charlotte Observer.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
O Marion Hampton, Okay, all right, so he's out. I
still think Caroline is better Dan. I think Yukon's a
better story. Yeah, and I think Yukon's better than most
people probably think, but I still tend to favor North
Carolina in this matchup, maybe something like thirty one twenty
four it was.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
It was snug at the end against Syracuse. I want
to say for Yukon a couple of weeks ago in
your classic Jim Beheim Yukon, why am I forgetting the
legendary Yukon head basketball coach's name Calhoun. Jim Calhoun, Yep,
yep Calhoun against b'ham. It was a nice year for Yukon,
pretty balance team. They were just quality team that won games.

(08:02):
Vibes are obviously terrific with North Carolina right now new coach,
but I'm still gonna go North Carolina. I think the
combo of vibes, even though they were hit a little
bit hard. I think it was like ten or eleven
people in, but then a few came withdrew from the
portal once the Belichick announcement was live, curious about what
it would be like to play for a legendary coach

(08:24):
like Belichick. So I think the vibes are good enough
even though it's not Bill Belichick team yet, I'm gonna
go UNC here in the Fenway Bowl to get it done.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
I like that. Do we have any thoughts though on
what we could bet on on the side here, like
if we're adding things to the Bingo card.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Well, it'd be nice if we had confirmation that he
was going to be there for a number of cutaways
something like that, but then that's very tricky to count.
We would need a dedicated person. Yukon North Carolina. Feels
like defense won't be a huge focus in this game.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
I like to once again the spreads two and a
half in favor of North Carolina. I like to kind
of zag a little bit, and I think we're in agreement.
So the over under is fifty four and a half.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Give me a zagaru.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Let's put on the bingo card under fifty four and
a half.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Okay, I'll be a little bit sloppy baseball stadium under
under the tired sites.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Okay, that's all under the total. We just keep it.
We'll start very simply here. Okay, we are going through
again for people are wondering what the hell is this
we're going through. We were picking props that we're gonna
add to your Bingo cards. Okay, under fifty four and
a half. Keep it simple, let's do it, Let's stay
on Saturday. Saturday is a big game, by the Big

(09:43):
day of games. By the way, Yes, it is eight
bowl games on Saturday, December the twenty eighth. This one's
at high noon. This is the bad Boy bad Boy
Mower's Pinstripe Bowl.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Dan Another baseball stadium.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Another baseball stadium is Boston College at seven and five.
It is Nebraska at six and six. Nebraska is favored
by two and one half points. The news on the
BC front they landed.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Dylan Lonergan from Alabama.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Alabama in the portal, one of their backup quarterbacks, So
curious to see how that works out moving forward.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
So some crossover with Bill O'Brien is my assumption.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yeah, that's my assumption as well. BC has a couple
opt outs. They're starting right tackle Donovani's Araku. Their defensive
end is out as well. Nebraska's got a starting linebacker
as well as Jamari Butler who's going to LSU via
the transfer portal, as well as Dante Dowdell leading rusher,
leading rusher. So a handful of guys I think will

(10:39):
hurt their depth more than anything here. I went back
and forth on this one a bunch of times, and
I ultimately came down on Boston College. I think bost
think I'm in on BC too, and I can't really
put a finger on why, but it feels to me
like a this one's a little bit closer to home
and be with the way this season ended for Nebraska,

(11:01):
they sort of went out with a bit of a whimper,
you know, sure, I just wonder if their heads are
in this one. There's also kind of like quasi smoke.
Even though Delan Royola extinguished it by saying he's all
in on Nebraska, there was some smoke that there were
people calling for his services as well, and that there
could be a transfer portal thing. There is not a

(11:22):
time of recording. I don't think there will be, but
maybe some distractions, maybe going out the way they did
this season that leads me to go Boston College outright here.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah, I think the focus with Nebraska is so squarely
on next year. But it's nice that Nebraska got to
a bowl game. I don't think they're taking it for
granted here, but with the ins and outs portal wise,
the vibes seem to be better in Boston College, they won.
What do they win to finish out the year? I
think they finished winning three or four. They had a
nice start. Both of these teams gave away a couple

(11:52):
of close opportunities, most notably Boston College with Louisville was
within their grasp. I think they had a fourth quarter
lead in that one, so terribly far off from a
nine to three opening salvo for Bill O'Brien at BC.
Better than I thought that they would do in year one,
given all of you know how Jeff Hafley left. I'm
gonna go b C here. I think they're a little

(12:12):
bit more complete. It just seems like another Matt Rule
team with a promising defense obviously lost their defensive coordinator
and an offense that really didn't do much all year long.
They weren't a disaster, but they were not anywhere near
a strength of this team. And so I don't know.
I think Boston College has more ways to win. It's
in the Northeast, and you know this as well as

(12:33):
anybody tie with your pin Stripe Bowl experience, when a
team is looking past it doesn't necessarily think they are
compatible with what the pin Stripe Bowl is. Yeah, out
of Miami recently, right, isn't that who Miami? Rutgers lost
the Rutgers in the Pinstripe Bowl. Yeah, I think Nebraska's
looking past it. I'm going to BC here.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
I'm on BC as well. Bets. Let's throw, folks, what
appears to be a gimme, and let's say Dylan Royola
over one touchdown pass.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Or over one touchdown over a half.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
A touchdown pass, so that we have a definitive result
over a half of a touchdown pass. If he gets
one touchdown pass, you hit. Okay, seems like a gimme.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Boston College pretty good pass defense, didn't allow a ton
of big pass plays. Was one of the strengths of
the team. Okay, not unstoppable.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
We also could go Boston College moneyliner. Just Boston College
to win.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
I like Boston College to win as the bat.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Okay, those are our two for this one. Okay, Yes,
they call this one the George M. Steinbrenner Trophy. Oh
it's another Lombardi Trophy knockoff. I'm beside myself, kidding me.
The only reason, the only reason I'm not going to
fully knock this one. They did incorporate a little bit
of Yankee Stadium into this. It's got on the base,

(13:59):
it has Yankee Stadium facade.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yeah, but this is like a I mean, it's not
new anymore. But this isn't like the legendary Yankee Stadium.
Now it's a newer Yankee Stadium. This is Yes, this
is the newer version of it. But the facade, the
facade is historic.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
The facade is what makes Yankee Stadium or one of
the landmarks of Yankee. Is it a striped trophy at least? No.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
So it's a pin stripe bowl, but there's no stripey elements.
I guess himself.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
I guess you could consider these support beams that are
sort of curved right to go up and hold the
Lombardi football maybe as your pin stripes if you want to.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
But why not why not have like the torch from
the Statue of Liberty if this is New York's one
true Bowl game?

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yeah, I know, something like that. The only saving grace
is that they incorporated some of the Yankee Stadium into this.
They had an opportunity to flex with this trophy. By
the way, they should have made they should have made
this a football themed World Series trophy as the winnings
as the winningest like most historic baseball team playing in

(15:05):
Yankee Stadium, they should have made a knockoff of the
Commissioner's Trophy, which they have for Major League Baseball, giving
it out to the winner here. That's what we should do.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Let's hope whoever in this game, whether it's Boston College,
whether it's Nebraska, has a better time in the stadium
than the Yankees did in that fifth inning against.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Moving on, moving on, moving on.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
I'll break it down pitch by pitch tie if you'd like.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Saturday, December twenty eighth, two fifteen pm Eastern time. Is
it the is Letta or the Isleta New Mexico Bowl.
I don't know how you say that word.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Oh that's a good question. I think it's Isletta Iletta Leta.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
I s l e TA New Mexico. Okay, it is
Louisiana at ten and three. It is TCU at eight
and four. TCU favored by thirteen point stand I don't
know who's playing quarterback for Louisiana. I think that's part
of it. Is Leta is leta thank you is lets
to Chandler Fields got carted off in the title game.

(16:04):
For Louisiana. I think they're going to be starting a
true freshman and Daniel beal Okay, if Fields is unable
to go, I have not seen confirmation on that. I think. Meanwhile,
you're going to get mostly a full boat from TCU.
Sunny Dykes is not expecting any opt outs here, So
if you're in a confidence pool, I consider going pretty
heavy on TCU outright, Pretty heavy on TCU outright. I

(16:28):
like TCU. I think they're the better team here. One
of the bets we're going to put on the card
is TCU minus thirteen because that's a big number in
bowl season, and if you like TCU the way I
like TCU, it doesn't look as big, but TCU minus
to number is significant. We should put something on the
Louisiana quarterback situation. I feel like Louisiana passing yards over

(16:55):
x number and maybe we can leave that one to
the betting marcus to decide exactly how much. But given
that there is some uncertainty, it's an interesting proposition. It's
also an interesting proposition because it's not exactly like TCU
is playing lockdown defense, right, That's just not their thing now,
So I kind of think Louisiana passing yards over whatever

(17:16):
that total is is something that we should incorporate here
just to keep people kind of on their toes.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
So you're saying, a backup quarterback, true freshman throwing for
Louisiana against an improved but still kind of so so
TCU defense, which, by the way, TCU finished the season
winning five of six. Yes, they did, and had two
of the more notable gacks of the twenty twenty four
season against Baylor and UCF. If memory serves, that's right

(17:44):
field goal laid against Baylor and giving up a big
lead to UCF. Obviously, Frog fans like, why are you
bringing up old stuff? Dan, Let's be cool. This is
a fun time to celebrate the Frogs. But they were
like four and a half seconds away from ten wins
I want to say this year. Yeah, they were, Yeah,
let's go what what what's the number? You were thinking?

(18:06):
One hundred ninety nine and a half.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Well, I'm I'm content to leave the betting markets to decide, like,
if there's an actual line on this, we'll go into
passing arts. Yeah there's a line on that, will we'll
go with it. But otherwise I would set it like
one hundred and eighty nine and a half. Okay, so
we'll see one or the other. But that's sort of

(18:30):
sort of how I'm feeling about this. People on discord
were like, you know, you could be way off in
these lines, to which I responded, setting arbitrary lines maybe
one of the few things I'm actually good at in
this life. I'm very good at this. I can't explain why,
but that's where that's where I'm thinking. One eighty nine
and a half.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
By the way, it's lance Lejon right. Yes, for Louisiana.
The Maryland quarterback transfer aout himself a nice year, leading
the way for off Louisiana receivers. Good story.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yeah, Hell yeah of this trophy? Hell yeah of this trophy? Okay.
The New Mexico Bowl Trophy is a Native American clay
pot meticulously handcrafted by artists Marcellus and Elizabeth Media from
the Zia Pueblo. The twenty inch bowl shaped pottery features

(19:17):
the iconic ZEA sun symbol, images of football players, a deer, mountain, lion, buffalo,
and eagle Dan. This is custom frickin' pottery with the
story hell yes.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Take care of this winning team. Let's not have any
incidents on the field and heirloom trophy. Great.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
How do you feel about pottery?

Speaker 2 (19:38):
How do I feel about pottery?

Speaker 1 (19:39):
Have you ever done pottery? Would you ever do pottery?

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Regular or sensual?

Speaker 1 (19:43):
With a ghost? Um? Right? Regular?

Speaker 2 (19:46):
You've seen you know what I'm I know you're okay, swayzy, Yes,
of course?

Speaker 1 (19:51):
May he rest in peace.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
I'm pro pottery. I always enjoy seeing craft work by
talented people, so I've never participated. I haven't had the
pleasure of crafting clay with my bare hands. Tie. Yeah,
but pro pro pottery? Are people anti pottery? I don't
know if there's an answer. I don't know if there's

(20:15):
an anti pottery sect out there. Yeah, I can tell you.
I've been looking far and wide. Not to break too
much news here, Are you getting into it? Are you
gonna fire up a kiln?

Speaker 1 (20:25):
I'm not against it. There's a place, there's a place
that I've been scoping out in the area that may
offer some pottery classes. I think that's a great idea.
Really into this idea?

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Are you really?

Speaker 1 (20:37):
I'm really into this idea?

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Where did this come from?

Speaker 1 (20:40):
I mean, this is I think just been inside of
me my entire life. I had like a battery powered
pottery wheel that I got for Christmas one year. Oh
my god.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Yeah, we need to pull this string. See where it leads.
Get you glazing.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
I'm looking get me glazing. I'm looking forward to it.
I'm going to get some pottery classes at some point
in the off season. And holy hell.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Okay, by the way, for Ballers dot Com to get
updates on Ty's pottery pursuit, we can.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
Start our very own podcast, is what we can do
after that?

Speaker 2 (21:09):
How dare you come up with such a good idea?

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Thank you? Thank you? Saturday three point thirty pop Tarts Bowl. Dan, Now,
this is a trophy fan, This is an f in trophy, Dan, Yeah,
this is a trophy. This is Iowa stayed at ten
and three, Miami at ten and two, Miami favored by
three points. I think this could be a fun game.

(21:32):
This is gonna be a fun game. Cam Ward said
he's playing. Yes. I have not seen for sure the
status of Xavier Ristreppo. Last I saw he didn't know
what he was doing. Okay, but for the most part,
looks like Miami is going to be intact. On the
Iowa state side. Jalen Noel said that he expects all
the seniors to play, so it could be a full

(21:53):
boat on both sides here. I don't think there's any
defense in this game. I think it's like the NBA
All Star Game. Okay, I think there's a lot of points.
I do think Miami is better. I also think cam
Ward is gonna want to try and make a case
to be a top five pick. So my hunch is
to go Miami. Okay, my hunch is to go Miami
on this one.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Dan, I think I go Miami as well, just because
of what we highlighted in terms of Iowa State run
defense deficiencies and some of the options that Iowa State
or excuse me, that Miami has toting the ball. Yeah,
very quietly, a very good receiver game. Yeah, between I

(22:33):
think it's Jade and Higgins if he's playing, and Xavier
Ostrepo if he's playing. So no, this is just an
incredible opportunity for points and shootout.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Great before we wax poetic about the trophy, we need best,
we need best for this game.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Total offense from cam Ward, total rushing yards for Miami,
total receiving yards for Jaden Higgins.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
I think we know cam Ward's playing because he said
he's playing right, So there definitely should be a cam
Ward side bet here. Okay, let's do cam Ward total
number of touchdowns cam Ward total touchdowns and interceptions. Oh okay,

(23:25):
because for as much as I like cam Ward wait
added together or the positive minus the name, No, no, no, no, no, no,
no no, we're not doing it. We're not doing that
in total total touchdowns, which would include passing touchdowns as
well as rushing touchdowns, okay, or receiving touchdowns if they
you know, I don't know, of course, do whatever you
gotta do. It's a bowl game, who knows. Plus the

(23:46):
number of interceptions, because cam Ward is nothing more if
not a playmaker, and we've seen some of those plays
too this year.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Okay, what's your number? Five and a half?

Speaker 1 (23:57):
I think five and a half. Yeah, okay, we'll say
or a half, we'll say over, we'll say all. We'll
do cam Looard total tds and interceptions over five and
a half as well as under five and a half. Okay, okay,
I feel like that's something that people will have an
opinion on on that one, any other any other Iowa

(24:20):
State sides that are of interest to you.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Iowa State betting props in this one.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
We could just go Iowa State plus the points sinsidered
the underdog.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Yeah, go Ioa State plus points.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Iowa State plus the points. Our trophy in this game,
Dan is impeccable. Impeccable. This is a three sixty Tomahawks
slam dunk on the lazy Lombardi era that we're living
through right now. So to the eye, to the eye,
it looks like a rich man's version of the Lombardi

(24:55):
style trophy that everyone's given out right, with the football
on top and a lot of silver and all that.
That is until you discover that pop Tart Stand partnered
with Ge Appliances to build a functioning toaster inside the trophy.
Inside the try the football at the top has two
slots into which you can fit pop tarts. Yes, they

(25:18):
recently unveiled this thing. As is always the case now,
it seems, with the Pop Tart Bowl, everybody involved with
college football media took a beat, talked about the Pop
Tarts Bowl for an entire afternoon because of the trophy,
and then moved on with their lives. Pop Tarts has
proven very, very good at harnessing these little media moments
that they can use to make themselves look cool. It

(25:39):
is the year of a Ward twenty twenty four. Pop
Tarts not a sponsor, probably won't be after I say this,
I don't know a whole lot of people eating pop
Tarts right now.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
Well, that's why they're sponsoring the ball That's why they're
sponsoring the ball game. Yes, that's why they're sponsoring the
bowl game. This trophy number one on the charts, full stop,
full stop, I think so.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
And it's not just what's this? They also now have
a third mascot. Did you see this? Now they've got
a third mascot. No, the frost the frosted cinnamon Roll,
pop Frosted Cinnamon Roll, Pop Tarts Flavor. Okay, he's going
to service the third mascot at this year's Pop Tarts Bowl,
giving it an opportunity to win the role of edible
mascot at the annual college football Bowl game. Quote appearing

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as an edible mascot along frosted Hot Smudge, Hot Fudge
Sunday and frosted wild Berry frosted Cinnamon Roll will compete
to achieve the ultimate pastry dream of being eaten by
the winning team. The company said in a press releaseing quote.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Is it still like the giant edible? I believe, like
the coach can the winning team can eat. I believe
giant pop tart humanized pop tart. You know when you
watch sixty minutes, everybody take a knee here for Dan's
old man segment here. Yeah, you watch sixty minutes when
they're like, a new supercomputer could change the way the

(27:00):
world processes information forever. And they show that supercomputer. There's
one in Vancouver, and there's one in cold or you know,
some sort of European city.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
It's always the size of a full like, yes, clean
room or something.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Yeah, it's a size of a medium sized suv.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
And they do those stories or they it's something in
biotech where they're like there's an artificial heart being developed. Yeah,
that will completely eradicate the widow maker's heart attack. Right,
And there's just like they have the scientists and they're
in the lab and there's Petrie dishes and CT scans,
there's all that. I think this trophy deserves the full

(27:41):
Steve Croft treatment in its development and how it's changing
bowl trophies forever. They're pushing things forward, they're pushing things forward.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
I agree Myrtle Beach Bowl sixty eight ventures. I'll get
to the Bahamas ball. Oh my god, they got some
great to make up here.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Man, the MVP of the is. By the way, big
year for pop tarts. Wasn't the Seinfeld movie this year?

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (28:06):
I don't think it got great reviews.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
I saw it. I enjoyed it.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Have Seinfeld seing the national anthem in the pop Tart Bowl.
Have them do something and have the MVP, whether it's
cam Ward, whether it's Jaydon Higgins, whoever, it is up
here on like a commemorative pop Tarts box.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Here is the question now for these guys, where do
you go from here?

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Oh, what's the next step? What's the next technology?

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Right? Because we've had this conversation time and again with
respect to like recruiting, announcements and things like that. Everybody's
trying to push the envelope. And there was you know,
the guy brought the dog out. They've had hats for
an eternity. Eventually, I think they ran out of ideas.
I think they're just back to doing the hat thing again,
or a jersey. But now with the trophy game, you

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got to assume there are going to be a couple
others that try to step up to the plate here.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
Oh, I thought, matter, where does the Pop Tart Bowl
go next?

Speaker 1 (29:01):
And that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. But
I'm saying there's going to be continued innovation in the
space now because of what Pop Tarts has done. In
order to stay ahead of the field, they need to
do something new next year.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
Right, uh, Built in toasters in the field, built in
toasters that coat wearable toasters that coaches and players are wearing,
toaster shooters that instead of like a T shirt cannon,
you have a tart cannon, a tart a tart cannon.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
I'm writing this.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Right all this time. This is all free.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
And I would say you could add like to the
spirals in the football, like a little sprinkle graphics. You
could change the football itself, change football, change the ball
just to give it elements of a pop Tart it
don't hate this idea, a frosted football.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
And you got to change the end zones too. You've
got these big long rectangles. Pop Tarts are rectangular. Do
something with end zones.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
I don't know, ty, is it possible to change the
rules of the football game. That's asking a lot. That
is asking a lot. These are exhibition games, anyway.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Sure, I think you changed. I think you can change
what the refs are wearing. Ooh, stripey some sort of
like red stripe representing raspberry pop tarts, blue stripe representing
blueberry or whatever you said. The cinnamon sugar cinnamon roll.
I think there's opportunity there. You flip a commemorative pop

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tart at the start on set of the game.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
We need another one here. We have one more bet
here that we got to add for this one. Okay,
you have three choices for which flavor is going to
be the edible mascot. We don't know which it's going
to be. They're apparently going to be competing for it. Okay,
and so you get to pick dan one of these three.
We're gonna put it as a bet. Are you picking

(30:52):
hot fudge, Sunday wild berry or organon? Yeah? Or frosted
cinnamon roll? I think cinnamon roll the new one they're
pushing it. Yeah, cinnamon roll to be edible mascot. Yes,
this is easy enough to figure out, right. I think
they revealed it at the very end last year. This

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gives you something to look forward to. Okay, we will
know what this is. I'm sure believe me.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Just going by the way to balance out all of
this positive free pop tart advertising.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
I think pop Dart's kind of gross.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Oh yeah, I can't imagine starting your day with a
pop tart as an adult.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
But you know, nothing nothing but good old fashioned refined
sugar to get your day going.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
I don't even remind refined sugar, but like, just get
a donut or something like if you really want something, like,
get something that's better than a pop tart anyway, I digress.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Saturday at four thirty, the Snoop Dog Arizona Bowl Believe
it or not, presented by Gin and Juice, by Dre
and Snoop.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Yeah, really makes it feel like a classic game.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
Here's a mouthful in this bull title Dan Snoop Dog
arizon Zona Bawl presented by Gin and Juice by Drey
and Snoop. Snoop is in the title twice. Mm hmm.
I don't know if this means they couldn't find another
sponsor for it, that they're sponsoring their own thing and
it's just a lot. It's there's a lot of Snoop here.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
I think it's a desperation play. This has always been
the game. I mean I still recognize it as the
Insight dot com bole. Of course the real ones do,
but it was Barstool had this game before. It's gone
through a number of iterations. Like a lot of these
games have had a lot of different sponsors. Snoop Dogg,
the Snoop Dogg bowl Snoop Dogg Arizona Bowl presented by

(32:38):
Snoop and Dre's Gin and Juice.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Yeah, they're like nixed cocktail drink.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
I mean, that's fully will sell it to you and
you're like, okay, also, thanks for selling us the bowl game.
But part of it, it's also stipulated that there it's
bookended by sponsors.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
And they're like, okay, whatever you want. There's a little
bit of art of sport Bowl hosted by Gronk in
this type. Yes, correct got Miami ohiou at eight and five,
a three point favored over Colorado State at eight and four.
Miami's taken on some losses in the portal dan as
a lot of MAC teams have. They've got two starting
wide outs in the portal they're starting left tackle, their

(33:16):
best corner who went to Auburn. I'm not crazy about
Colorado State. You know, we bet against the MAC here
on the solid Burbo. When it comes to bowl season,
I am inclined to go Colorado State here plus those points,
if only because Miami's taken on some losses. They lost
the conference championship game. Not quite sure where their heads
are going to be at here, And I guess a

(33:37):
little bit of a closer jaunt for Colorado State to
get down to the Arizona Bowl, which I believe they
play in Phoenix, right, Yes, so I think of a
Klinago Rams here.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
I'm going Rams as well. And that's a mix of
the Mac and losing the players that they did. But
here's what you all should know about also should know
about Colorado State, who is fine this year led by
their defense. Offense wasn't anything special in terms of finishing
drives with points. This is the record of the teams.
These are the records of the team's Colorado State.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
I did see this.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
I did see this four and eight, six and six,
three and nine, three and ten, five and seven, five
and seven.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
I could do this.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
Seven and five, five and seven, three and nine. That's
within conference play ish with Oregon State thrown in there,
got destroyed by Colorado and Texas. They're major conference opponents,
so and lost to that six and six team, by
the way, by six points. Not ideal in terms of
having a ton of confidence in the team when you

(34:39):
play that many bad, too average teams. And the best
thing in this game is hypothetically Miami's defense. If everybody
were playing, I'm still gonna go Colorado State here.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
I think we agree on that front. Now, I'm curious
to get your thoughts on what we can do for
a prop bet, because it's not lost in me that
just how we covered Miami Ohio this year sporadically. I'm
not gonna act like where a Miami Ohio podcast, right,
But this was not a robust RedHawks offense this season.

(35:13):
They were not noted so much for scoring points. They
got drilled in the conference championship game against Ohio they
lost by a thirty five point margin.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
They were actually okay, they just happened to play Northwestern
in Notre Dame the first two or three weeks of
the year.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Still, though the offense was not very great.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
I know, twenties and thirties, so they weren't like scoring
Iowa levels of bad offense like these past couple of years.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Iowa. Yeah. My thought is Miami Ohio points over whatever
that number is. I don't know what that number is.
We can rely on the betting markets, but I think
there maybe we go under Miami Ohio under the points,
Miami of Ohio under the points, under whatever their team
total is. I think is an interesting proposition. On the

(35:56):
Colorado state side, I think because they're an underdog, I
think we should go Colorado save money line. Okay, right,
great with that, pick him to win? Yeah, straight up
to move on. Oh, we have a trophy. I don't
know what the trophy is. I have no idea. I
couldn't find it. You couldn't.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
There's a I mean, there has to be a good trophy, right,
you would think I'm gonna be hearing else.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
I'm gonna be very disappointed if Snoop's Bowl does not
have an Atlantis trophy, but especially since he's such a
football guy, he said, a football guy. I don't know,
it's not I.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
I see last year. It's the barstool version of it. It
kind of looks like an urn. Yeah, I'm not a
platform I'm not into the what they did, but that's fine.
They don't have it anymore now it's Snoop, right. I
have not seen a trophy reveal. Maybe we'll get that
by the time this game kicks off. I haven't seen
it yet. No idea I'm seeing. At least there's a
low rider in the like introductory graphic. Yeah, that'd be

(36:52):
cool if there was a low rider element. I mean,
there's a lot that Snoop's known for, and also you
got gin and juice, so maybe there's some sort of
orange theme to it, although Arizona isn't known for its oranges.
Let's hope there's something interesting and fun.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
The Saturday at five fifty for five forty five game
excuse me, is called the go Bowling dot Com Military
Bowl DAN. This is basically a rivalry game between ECU
and NC State seven and five, NC State six and six.
NC State favored by five and a half points, play

(37:26):
this one in Annapolis, Maryland. I have a weird, sort
of almost sadistic bet that I'd like to put forth here.
I think there will be emotion with this game because
it is quasi rivalry, all right, Maybe that's more the

(37:46):
case than other sports, but this is this is a
rivalry game. They're both in North Carolina, They're pretty close
to each other. I would like to set an over
under of two and a half, maybe three and a
half personal foul penalties.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
Two and a half personal foul penalties, okay, two? And
how are these teams in terms of I'm in putting
on the spot here, I'm looking it up as we speak,
in terms of penalties and penalty yardage? Were they two
of the I know there was a change at head
coach for you see you yep, yeah, Caten Houser change

(38:23):
a quarterback as well. Actually had a nice end of
the year, right, that's right.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
Penalties, I think I think we we limit it to
unnecessary roughness, okay, or how do we want to phrase this?
Because you can get a personal foul for a lot
of different things, right, personal foul you can get for
running or roughing the kicker. Personal foul you can get
for a face mask, right. True. I think I think

(38:49):
what we're looking for here, I'm trying to find something
that encompasses like emotions. So maybe we go unsportsmanlike conduct.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
Okay, so one and a half half, let's go over
one and a half. You see you one hundred and
twenty ninth in penalty yardage over one and a half
on sportsmanlike conduct. Penalties you see relatively unisciplined this year.
But it doesn't say you know what kind of penalties?

Speaker 1 (39:17):
No, No, over one and a half. And let's say
I mean NC State's favored by five and a half
points in a rivalry game. Usually we say take the points.

(39:38):
We'll go the opposite direction, and we'll say NC State
minus five and a half. Okay, Okay, let's do it.
We're doing the opposite. Just to keep things fresh. I
want to tread carefully here because there's a chance there's
a story behind this trophy that I don't know.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
This is go bowling, Which is go bowling? Is it
a bowling chain or just a bowling guydline to find
bowling centers?

Speaker 1 (40:02):
I believe it's a guide to find bowling places. Okay.
I don't know where they're getting the coin for the
Military Bowl. I have no idea how this is. That's
a lot of Google ads that they're trading on here.
Mm hmm. So the trophy is a silver football, I'll
say premium pedestal. Great, Okay, I believe it is an

(40:24):
illustration of the US Capitol on both sides. That's okay,
which it should make sense. They started this Bowl game
back in two thousand and eight. It was called the
Congressional Bowl back then, Okay, So I believe there is
some tie in, some significance to you know, the government
and the military, the act of service. So I'm not
gonna I'm not gonna go too hard on this trophy. Right,

(40:48):
Let's just say, when you got the Military Bowl, though,
you got some real room for improvement here.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
They can take creative direction, you can go, and yeah
they could.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
They could take this thing in a million different directions.
So not great about it, but it's you know, maybe
got some more significance than I'm aware of.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
I like the bowling tie in. Yeah, pretty on the nose.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Okay. Also on Saturday seven thirty, the Larro Almo Bol.
This is a good game. This is BYU ten and
two Colorado nine and three, Colorado favored by three points.
Looks like a full boat on both sides. Great, these
teams are both in the Big twelve. They did not play,
assuming they're both at full strength. Actually sorta kind of
ties up.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
Some loose sense and this is as a result of
PAC twelve team recent PAC twelve teams maintaining tie ins.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
That's correct, That's absolutely correct. I think you prepare for
Shador Sanders, for Travis Hunter to try and put on
show you're both going pro. I think provided both they play,
this is, provided both of them play, we're going to
see like NFL Draft tape one on one here. I
think they will be very motivated in this one. I
do like Colorado's athleticism more. I think that's the difference here.

(41:57):
But I think it's a good game, So I would
take the bus, but something like thirty four to twenty eight.
I think points, I think fun.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
I think I'm with you there. I think BYU can
be very good. I like that it's indoors. I like
that this game typically features two entertaining teams because it's
you know, generally eight and four, nine and three type teams. Yeah,
in the former Big twelve and former Pac twelve. So yeah,
I think the interesting move is probably what the total

(42:25):
is in this game.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
So the total in this game, if you're just going
by what the betty markets have right now, is fifty
four and a half points. I kind of like the
over you want to go over fifty four and a half.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Yeah, this it smells like a thirty eight, twenty eight,
thirty five thirty one.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
Yeah, I think it has over vibes for me. I
also want to add in a Travis Hunter bet kind
of in honor of him winning the Heisman. Right, he
won the Heisman when it to talk a whole lot
about it, but was one of the closest votes we've
seen in a good long time. He won by a nose,
let's say, over Ashton Jt, the running back from Boise's state.

(43:03):
So it congrats Travis Hunter, right, I presume he's going
to play in this game.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
That's the report.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Yeah, I know Shador is playing in this game. Mm hmm.
So my question is, can we do some sort of
combo play Travis Hunter Shador Sanders total combined yardage, total
combined touchdowns?

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Well, Hunter can't really do it. I mean you could
take a carry to the house or something without Shador. Right,
I was thinking you were going down the road of
like a Hunter one too, like a pick and a
touchdown catch.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
Oh, I like that. I do like that.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
Why don't we say quodify it? But yeah, well we could.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
Say Travis Hunter with one interception and one touchdown. Okay,
the one plus one yeah, and one touchdown reception the
Alamo Bowl two step Yeah. I like that a lot.
I also feel like we should have something on the
BYU side, presumably a Jake rhetzliff bet.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
Okay, longest touchdown pass.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
I'm thinking rushing yards.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Jake rhetz laugh. Okay, rushing yards all right.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
Rhett's laugh. Rushing yards. I want to see if there's
a number out there that we can latch onto on
the betting markets. My hunch is that it's going to
be somewhere around forty five fifty yards. If I had
a venture, I guess I would set this at about,
let's say fifty one and a half. If there's not

(44:37):
a betting line available to us, we'll set it at
fifty one and a half.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
Ran for four hundred and seventy three this year, led
the team in touchdown runs. Yeah, that's six yep, fifty
yards rushing. That's a big number.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Never know, he's a playmaker, man, that's true. Got a
silver football that goes to the winner. Here the aal Moble.
It's premium base. It looks heavy. I found an old
version though out on Google Images when Mac Brown won
it when he was still a Texas so we're going
way back, and back then it was still the silver football.

(45:13):
They still were doing the Lombardi thing, but the pedestal
had the outline of the actual Alamo, which is cool.
That was cool, A little bit of the Fenway bawl
going on, like how they handled that base. What they're
doing now, it's just they're really leaning into the premium
look of the silver base and I just can't get
behind this. I just can't get behind this. You could

(45:34):
do so much, so much because the shape of the
Alamo is iconic, yes, of course, and they're like, just
give away a big silver Alamo. You don't even need
the football. Cares about the football. We all know the football.
We know it's a football game. You don't need that,
you need the Almo.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
And there's so much like iconic imagery with the State
of Texas, with San Antonio, with obviously the Alamo. I
want to say this was was this Mac Brown's final
game as the Texas head coach was the Ala Mobile?

Speaker 1 (46:06):
Oh wow?

Speaker 2 (46:07):
I think it was a loss to Oregon in twenty thirteen.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
That's a deep cut.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
I know you want Helfrich Aliotti, Marcus Mariota, Oregon Team.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
He wanted at least once because I found the image
of it. Yeah, I think it was twenty thirteen. Okay.
Also on Saturday nine fifteen, the Radiance Technologies Independence Bowl. Okay,
we need to talk about this trophy, all right, please,
we need to talk about this trophy. I am going
to send you a screen grab right now while I
am vamping here. I want you to take a look

(46:35):
at this thing, and okay, give you your honest to
goodness thoughts on this, because suffice to say I have many.
This is a game that also a little bit of
a zag. It is Army at eleven and two. Originally
they were playing Marshall, but Marshall opted out. The whole
team opted out. They're all gone, yeah, because they're all
kind of in. The portal team has done so they said, nah,

(46:57):
we're not playing this game, which means Luisiana Attack at
five and seven is in as such Army as a
sixteen and one half point favorite. Gotta be honest with
you here, tough ask for tech all right, this is
a tough one. Tough to get Army still on somewhat
short notice Louisiana Tech's defense actually is not that bad.

(47:20):
Their offense is atrocious. Their run defense is especially good.
It's okay, but their offense is so bad. Yes, I
just I don't see any way. This game is close.
Now I could be wrong about that, but I'm going
to go as one of our bets here Louisiana Tech
plus the sixteen and a half, just to kind of

(47:41):
play into the fact that I'm always wrong. I also
think we need a Bryson daily touchdown.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
Bet running behind the Joe Moore Award winning Army offensive
line that ran for like three yards of carry in November.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
We'll say over three and a half touchdowns total touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
I like that because I'm not so sure. Okay, yeah,
I think that's a good number. You want to go
four and a half, you want to go no, no, no, no,
I just don Louisiana textop to run this year. They
finished thirteenth in EPA rush defense nationally. They did a
good job, maybe a product of who they played. But
still one other interesting bet here that we could look

(48:27):
at Bryson daily passing attempts in this game. Oh, I
like that, Okay, Like maybe we ditched the TD things,
since that's a little bit overused. But I'm looking at
this Bryson daily passing attempts, so I have the numbers
at the ready.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
What did he do this season?

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Here's what did the last five games four, eight, seventeen,
two sixteen. So he only had eight against Notre Dame
and followed up with seventeen and two against UTSA and
two lane quality teams. So it's all over the place.
So six and a half, seven and a half.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
I was gonna say four and a half. Why don't
we set it at five and a half.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
Five and a half passing attempts? Okay? I like this
betal sixteen against Navy. I like this bet a lot
three picks. He had a throw against Navy. They were down.
I know, I know. What do you think of this trophy?
Did you send it? I'll here it is. Okay, So
this is when you say this is the Independence Bowl,
this is the Radiance Technologies Independence Bawl. Yeah, it looks

(49:33):
like it's a two tiered trophy with the Fleur de
lys in the middle, and that's what I'm saying. A
golden football closer to the base right, and then an
eagle with its wings open holding an American flag.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
And are those swords? Is the pedestal made of swords?

Speaker 2 (49:55):
It's a good question. I can't make it out.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
They look like swords to me. Interesting.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
The first thing that you are intense trophy and it's
a thirteen colony American flag.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
That's right, that's right. The first thing that jumps out
to me is that this thing has to be at
least five or six feet tall. It's huge. It looks large. Yeah,
you've got the gigantic eagle on top, which is fine
pro eagle. Then you got the football. But like you said,
underneath the pedestal, you got what looks like swords the floor.
To Lee, a lot going on here. Okay, last year's version,

(50:27):
I don't know if they still have it. On this one.
It also had a Lee Michael's Jeweler's trophy on it
because back in twenty twelve he bailed them out by
making a brand new one after the Missouri Tiger accidentally
broke the real one. Yes, okay, so they paid some
homage to him, put his name on it. I don't
know if he's still Michaels there it is, Yeah, you
see that or at at the very time I was
wondering what that was. Yea, I looked that up. This

(50:49):
is what This is the kind of detail I put
into this research. My problem is this they get an
E for effort. What they need is a project manager
next time. This thing is all over the place. Yeah,
this is like cam Newton's Heisman speech. This is every
idea that somebody fed them. They put on the trophy.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
It's like designed by Homer Simpson.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
That's exactly right, That's exactly right. It is every trophy
idea rolled into one here. So I commend their efforts.
There are freelance project managers that are available. I gotta
believe out on LinkedIn or even fiver. I would suggest
that Radiance Technology is with all of that defense money
they are getting, go out, talk to a trophy project manager.

(51:33):
Let's do this thing right in time for twenty twenty five. Okay,
how do you fly home with this? You you have
to put it on its own drone man, you can't.
I don't even think you can fly this thing. It
might not be legal enough to fly. You gotta take
this one cross country in like a U haul hue.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
By the way, just because you're a bird person, you're
a bird human Yeah, where do eagles rank into Obviously,
eagles are majestic. We can all agree eagles are majestic, incredible,
But in terms of birds of prey, are they considered
a raptor? They are like a subset? Yeah, yea very
much a raptor. Yeah, are they of the more interesting
raptors in your life?

Speaker 1 (52:11):
Like?

Speaker 2 (52:12):
How pumped would you be to see an eagle wherever
you go birding?

Speaker 1 (52:17):
Like?

Speaker 2 (52:17):
Are they not as interesting as falcons or hawks or
take your pick of raptors?

Speaker 1 (52:21):
Are they?

Speaker 2 (52:21):
Are they boring? Interesting?

Speaker 1 (52:23):
No? No, they're interesting. They're the best. And the reason they're
the best is because you can always spot them. Now,
unless it's a juvenile eagle, which tends to look like
a couple other of the birds of prey. Sure you
can't miss a mature eagle because you've got the bright
white head and the tail.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
Well, it's a bald eagle right there. There aren't there
various kinds of eagles.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
Well, there's bald eagle, and there's a golden eagle, which
we don't see it all around here, right, all right,
at least not in.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
My neck of the woods, Southern Miss, Southern Miss. Yeah, yeah, right,
So golden eagle.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
Those are huge. Those are huge. Unless you're seeing one
in like some sort of nature preserve or something like that,
you're not going to spot one of those out in
the wild, at least not here, not usually. I think
there have been on rare occasion. So for me, the
bald eagle always cool spotting because you never used to
see him. Now you see them all the time, and
when you see you can't miss it.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Sub question, are there is there like a good eagle
population given your proximity.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
To Philadelphia, there are around here.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
There are a ton of eagles there, so calling them
the Philadelphia eagles is not out of line.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
No, there's a ton of eagles everywhere. To be honest,
that's true. They're all over the place. Have you seen
one out there?

Speaker 2 (53:29):
I don't know if I have. I'll say I've got
a really good bird story. I don't know if I
told you my hawk my recent hawk.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Story, recent hawk story.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
Yeah, I've got a recent hok.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
I think you did tell me this one.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
Did I send you the video to I may?

Speaker 1 (53:41):
I didn't know there's a video.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
There is an attached video of We had a lot
of Bowl games to get through. Yeah, we'll zip through
these people don't care talk to me about the hawk.
So I got a text message. Maybe we just said
this on the Patreon show. I got a text message
from my neighbor, who's great, who was like, in case
your kids want to learn about how violent nature is,

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there's a hawk ripping apart a rabbit on our joined
fence between our homes. And friend, let me tell you something.
He did not exaggerate. This hawk was going to town
ripping out the innards of a rabbit, which is I
mean this nature, man, I don't know what to tell you.
Kids were watching and they're like, what is he doing?
They weren't scared, though, they were just like, whoa crazy?

(54:25):
And after every bit that the hawk would pull out
of this rabbit, he would look up here or she
I don't know who the hunters are here? Or she
would look up and make sure everybody was seeing the damage.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
He was doing a.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
Bit of a showman too, no less, an absolute showman
on this fence, just ripping apart this poor rabbit. Yeah,
it was. I took video of it's I'm happy to want.
I took video and it was so cool. I don't
know what to tell you. Man, all those like nature
his metal accounts.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
What did Jody with an?

Speaker 2 (55:02):
I think it wasn't the favorite video that she had
ever seen right in our neighborhood.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
But you know, what are you gonna do?

Speaker 2 (55:10):
These animals they live out there, man. Yeah, we're in
their world.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
We're in their world all right? Where we leave it? Oh?
Fun day? Okay? Yeah? Music City Ball trans perfect, Music
City Bowl. This is Iowa at eight and four. This
is Miszoo at nine and three, Missoo favored by three points.
Both Caleb Johnson and Luther Burden have opted out. I
believe Brady Cook is going to play for Miszoo. I believe,

(55:36):
I do not know that for sure. Great, this one
appears to me to be a rock fight. Dan, this
looks like rock fight written all over it. Did you
get those vibes? I did? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Absolutely so.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
I think first things first, we need to look at
the over undertotal, which right now was forty and a
half points, which is kind of a bad NFL game.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
By the way, if you want to in post t
I say, speaking of hawks as we get into Iowa,
speaking of hawks, that's called an after the fact segue.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
Folks, continue, We're going to continue the trend of just
betting against my initial or putting a bet on the
card that is against my initial thought. Yeah, I said,
rock fight. Let's go over forty and a half points
or over whatever the total is here on the betting markets. Okay,
I like that. That's going to be on the betting card.
Where are you at on this game?

Speaker 2 (56:26):
So who's starting at quarterback for Iowa? I know Kate
McNamara is gone.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
Yeah, I believe it's going to be a competition per
Kirk Farns or somebody on the Iowa staff. Yeah, it's
a competition over the next couple weeks between Jackson Stratton
and Brendan Sullivan.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
Got it? Okay, um hmmm. I think I like Miszoo here.
I think I like Maszoo. Their losses are I mean,
they're not good losses per se because I watch them
as who texts A and M game, But there are
losses to teams who were vaguely in the playoff conversation

(57:05):
in November, So in terms of who they lost to,
not how they lost, the opportunity to win ten is
a net good thing. I'm thinking some sort of field
goal bet here, Okay, longest field goal in the game.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
Forty six and a half longest field goal over forty
six and a half yards. Okay, I'm on a zoo.
I got it like twenty to thirteen. That sounds about right,
Night Final. This is a trophy that I'm proud to
say has defined its own class, its own category. Okay,

(57:46):
and I am calling that category tacky tombstones.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
Okay, so US City Bowl Trophy. Yeah, you'll see what
I'm talking about. It's a football, it's on a base. Yeah,
however the bass or to flat like a tombstone. Okay, yes,
flattened like a tombstone. Almost has the stone pattern that
you see on a tombstone.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
Yes, on that base, it's got a football at the top,
so they're playing into the little the lombardy thing. But
there's a little bit of flattening with that football as well,
so it's it looks like a tacky tombstone, is what
this looks like to me. Now, they do have a
music note drawn on the laces of the football because
that's City Bowl, so they're you know, they're at least

(58:28):
showing some creativity here. I think there's a lot of
room for improvement. I am not satisfied at all at
this trophy. This seems like a bit of a cop
out to me.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
Man, It's Nashville, right.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
There's so much going on in Nashville, one of the
great cities in our Union. Well, let's not go crazy.
But I've never been there. I have no idea. I've
heard fine, I've heard good things.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
I like Nashville. Fine, But like you just throw around
the word great and just hit by bachelorette party after
bachelorette party. It's not the best you can go. You
can do better with the country music situation, honky Tonks,
whatever you could do better than what this trophy looks like.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
For sure, if you look at the football after a
few adult beverages or maybe something else, you look whatever
you're into. Yeah, that football either looks like a music
note or looks like a shark, could look like some
sort of prehistoric bird skeleton. It really depends on where

(59:33):
you're at in life what you see when you look
at this football trophy.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
I just think from a lot of these bowl games,
the budget to pay a graphic designer is so limited
for a trophy that very few people are going to
remember and see that. You have to have a memorable
sponsor like the pop Tarts Bowl to really invest in
the creativity because pop Tarts is all in. And by
the way, subplot to the pop Tarts Bowl here is

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that Miami had a really good year and that they
end up in a silly bowl game, like a silly
named bowl game, even though it's like a quality bowl
game in terms of where we are in the bowl structure.
It's hilarious that pop Tarts and cheese it are just
like prominently featured during bowl season and yet like a

(01:00:20):
weird insult to have a good year and end up
in a bowl game named after a toaster strudle. Yeah,
it's just a funny turn of events, that's all.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
Okay, Tuesday high noon, this is New Year's Eve. We've
got a playoff game later in the day, mind you,
that Fiesta Bowl between Boise State and the winner of
Penn State SMU. But earlier in the day. It's Alabama
at nine and three, a ten and a half point
favored against Michigan finished the year at seven and five
with that win over Ohio State. Kalen de Bor isn't

(01:00:49):
expecting many opt outs. They do have some guys that
transferred out, notably Devonte Smith, the corner, not the one
that used to be there. The corner went to Notre Dame. Yes,
just Haines also in the portal the running back, as
well as Kobe Prentiss Kendrick Law, both of whom are
out wide. I have no idea how this game is
close if Bama plays its guys. Yeah, so my initial

(01:01:12):
thought is one of our bets should be Michigan plus
ten and a half points, go the opposite of tie here.
Michigan plus the plus go against all of your instincts here,
that's right, that's right. So you could get all of
them right if you go against all my instincts. But
I think Michigan plus the points is an interesting way
to look at this one, since it seems like it
should get out of hand. I really trust Alabama to

(01:01:35):
win even if they're playing at I don't know half
strength against Michigan Dan.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
So, if Alabama plays it's b game. How many points
does Michigan need to score to either cover or win.
We've seen what their F game looks like when they
score three points against Oklahoma to cover thirteen. Okay, do
you think Davis warren No can get them to thirteen points?

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
I know I don't. What I'm struggling with is what
will Alabama's frame of mind be? Well, Alabama give a
damn about this game.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
Hard to know, first year coach.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
You know, That's why the Michigan bet actually makes a
little bit of sense, because it's a lot about motivation
in these bowl games. I just don't know if Alabama's
gonna want to be there, even if they play all
their guys. I you know, I don't think they're above
any kind of stinker here in a Bowl game.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
Is a revenge spot kind of it is? Year Yeah, okay,
I mean neither of these teams are coached by the
same person.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
No, they aren't.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
I think Alabama covers this game. It's an opportunity for
some younger guys to shine. With the opt outs, Michigan
should probably have. Wait when did you say Donovan Edwards out,
Colston Lovelin out?

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
Yeah? I have not seen clarity on those guys.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
I'm almost positive I saw. Okay, Donovan Edwards out. Let's
keep this one simple.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
Michigan plus ten and a half Alabama minus ten and
a half you pick.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
Yeah, that's just when you think Alabama minus ten and
a half.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
Yeah, So this is a Lombardi Trophy Dan that I
would say got a divorce from its football and it
just started dating again. That's how it would classify this trophy.
It's sort of like a silver monolith. Like if you
told me this is one of the things floating above
New Jersey right now, I totally believe you. I don't know.

(01:03:31):
I have no idea what this is supposed to be.
It's just a silver thing. Yes, it's like something you
want at a corporate retreat. Yes, it looks impressive. It
has no meaning attached to it whatsoever. As far as
I can tell, there's no story behind it. It's just
a thing.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
Is it a hexagon?

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
I don't know what it is. You know, isn't that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
What the six sided shape is?

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
I guess, I guess, but I don't like, I don't.
I just I don't know what this is. So like
it's the Lombardi Trophy, but imagine just the base, but
maybe more of a modern shape. Right, And that's the
thing that you get.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
I mean, they're steering into the palm tree of it,
all right, there's palm trees etched into it. Why not
just have a silver palm tree of some kind?

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
Exactly?

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
I mean, what else is Tampa is the strip club
capital of America?

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
Pro wrestlers, pro wrestlers, pirates, They got the Gasparilla Festival
Brad Johnson. Brad Johnson put Brad Johnson on the trophy?
Why not? I don't know. By the way, what does
Relia quest do? I don't know? Doesn't go?

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
Yeah, can we have a new segment. Let's all take
a knee for Dan's mean minute dance, mean minute? You
said the Boise State Festival is happening? Yeah, later, that's
I think the evening time, right, seven or eight o'clock
at night, thirty years a time. Yeah, yes, we saw

(01:05:04):
all the get in prices of the first round. I
think Notre Dames is far and away the most expensive
get in price. By the way, another Notre Dame Tyler
in my life going to the game a preschool dad
and he was like, guess what he's like where I
got into a box and I'm don't too well with
the cold. Good job, man, great job. What is the

(01:05:24):
get in price for the festival for a Boise State
SMU festival? Is it nineteen dollars? Is it twenty seven dollars?
To get into University of Phoenix or whatever that stadium
is called. Now, is it forty one dollars you get
to go to a playoff game? It's thirty six dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
It's something that you sign up for online and they
is it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
A groupon game?

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
They tell you the day of if you get the
tickets for free? Right, it could be a groupon game.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
Yeah, Like if it is SMU Boise State, should we
raise money to say and a bunch of fourth graders
to this game to help fill out the stadium and
give we.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
Would need to pay for the bus to get him there,
and that's it and get in for free. What a listen?

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
I'm gonna intently watch every single playoff game, including a
possible Boise State SMU playoff game, enthusiastically watch. I don't
care whether or not TV executives are happy or crazy upset,
but that's a nightmare scenario that's going to ruin the

(01:06:32):
new year of somebody at ESPN. Yeah, that to be bad,
that'd be very very bad. Let's keep going though, all right,
So I admit that was me. That was Dan's mean
a minute. Thanks for tuning in.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
Also on New Year's Eve, two pm, The Tony the
Tiger Sun Bowl Louisville inn. Eight and four, two and
a half point favorite, Washington at six and six. We
got Tyler Shuck Jacorey Brooks both opting out on the
Louisville side. Looks like Demond Williams is going to be
the starter in the Bowl game for Washington. You may
recall Will Rogers got benched final game of the season.

(01:07:04):
I'm on Washington here, man, I'm on Washington. I think
Washington wins this game. Hmm. Okay, So one of our
bets needs to be Louisville minus two and a half. Okay,
We're just going the opposite of tie because I've been
so bad this year. Louisville minus two and a half
is one of our plays. Can come up with another one,

(01:07:26):
of course, right, but we don't have to. I think
Louisville minus the number is an intriguing start. Where are
you at here? Do you like Louisville even if they're
starting somebody else with than Tyler Show.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
So Washington's down their defensive coordinator. Moving on to North
Carolina's right, Washington made a quarterback change at the end
of the season. They're down at least a couple of
key players to the portal one of their starting linebackers.
I want to say Camari House. Ah, there's always going

(01:08:00):
to be a team here that too many players are
hung over for this game after going out in El
Paso the night before. It's like Washington just won fifty
six to three. That was weird.

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
What happened? Oh? I got it, I gotcha.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
There's always seems to be like behind the scenes drama
happening at the sun Bowl. Yeah, by the way, Sun
Bowl Dream Bowl for me. Oh yeah, Mexican food, Mariachi bands,
I love it. Perhaps a warm Texas afternoon, free frosted flakes.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
Yeah, it's a dream for me. Can we can we
add to the card here a surprise Washington blowout.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
Yeah, surprise. Somebody's gonna play. Somebody's getting blownut. I don't
know if it's Washington onvids Louisville.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
Let's say here, I'm gonna get rid of my Louisville bet.
I'm gonna say one team to win Sun Bowl by
seventeen and a half points sixteen.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
It's always an oddball result. This was the Oregon State
pit game, right, yeah, way back when that's right. This
was Notre Dame obliterating Oregon State last year when Jonathan
Smith left, Like, there's always something odd in this game. So, yeah,
it is seven enough.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
You want to go.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
See seventeen points. Somebody wins this game by at least
sixteen and a half points.

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
We got a silver football top of pedestal. Dan. It's
a pedestal that's big and square. And the only saving
grace here I'd say is that the base is a
replica of sun Ball of the sun Bull Stadium, which
is a need venue. It's really that's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
Yeah, and it's sort of the rocks of Elcks.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
The football is kind of rising you out of it.
So it's it's fine. They could do better, but at
least there is something of like a tie into the
actual game here.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
Okay, unlike the I'm okad, I still recognize the Brute
Sun Bowl.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
Oh yeah, no, I go by the Brute Sun Bowl. Yeah.
Also on TUESDA, it's a New Year's Eve the cheese
It Citrus Bowl. Okay, got South Carolina nine and three,
a nine to one half point favorite. We got Illinois
also at nine and three. We got Pat Bryant, the
wide receiver for Illinois, opting out saw that I have
seen Kyle Kinard opt out on the South Carolina side.

(01:10:18):
There are others that could opt out, like rocket standers.
I think Carolina big. I really like Carolina in this game.
I feel like this is one of those games that
Shane Beemer does well in. He just finds a way
to motivate the troops.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
Were we talking about a former Duke's Mayo Bowl champion
Shane Beemer.

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
We're talking about a former Duke's Mayo Bowl champion Shane Beamer.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
Okay, So in terms of novelty or gimmicky bowl sponsor games,
Shane Biemer doesn't mess around.

Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
Shane Biemer does not mess around.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
So I'm going South Carolina here as well, especially without
Pat Bryant for Illinois and Leonora seller Is okay the creator. Yeah, yeah,
good vibes with South Carolina.

Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
Yeah, let's let's go Illinois plus nine and a half
or plus whatever points spread as one of our bets.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
Okay, going against your gut.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
Going against my gut, I'm just gonna leave it there. Okay.
This is a bowl of fruit. It's a citrus bowl.
That's a trophy. I think the cheese It logo that
they put on it kind of diminishes the fact that
it's like a timeless trophy with a bowl fruit. So
I don't think cheese It's going to be a sponsor
anytime soon. I love their work, by the way, with

(01:11:34):
the white cheddar cheese its. I don't know if you've
ever had those, that's your selection. I'm sure I have.
It's got definitely like an addictive quality to it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
Yeah, called science tie. Science creates the cheese.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
It it's beautiful, the white cheddar cheese. It is a
work of art. Okay, trophy though, is diminished by that
logo on it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
Is it the logo or is it a full cheese
it like bronzed on a stand.

Speaker 1 (01:11:59):
Now it's it's it's sort of just like the logo
a top that's too kind of on the pedestal here.
But they're like, I don't want to dock them too much.
They're caught between a rock and a hard place. They're
the ones that are sponsoring the Citrus Bowl. So you
can't really change the trophy around that much. I know,
been around forever. I think it's the right trophy. Now
they are trying to push the envelope by doing like

(01:12:21):
the dumping of the cheese it's on the coach and
that type of stuff. So they're trying to sam trying
to innovate in other ways, but the trophy I think
is off limits here. I get where they're coming from.
They're a bit limited.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
So that's been the big thing is the dunking out
of the gatorade container. We have like the French fries
and the famous Idaho Potato Bowl, the mayo of course,
the mayo drop the cheese. It's what about instead of
a confetti launch out of a cannon, we had cheese
it dust. No man shot into the air. Yeah, kind

(01:12:56):
of like state is this in? This is in Florida, right, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
The Citrus Bowl. Yeah, anything goes. Anything goes in Florida.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
There is no EPA that is going to prevent you
from shooting cheese at dust into the air, covering the
winning team in cheese at dust.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
So we're thinking a little bit of like Lebron James
with for the game where he throws it up in
the air. But you're thinking cheese it dust.

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
I am thinking some sort of cheese it cloud dust
cloud to celebrate in the most disgusting way, the cheese
at Citrus Bowl champion.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
Yeah, I don't hate this.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
It's a lawsuit waiting to happen, but anything goes.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
It's Florida. It's Florida. No, you're good. Yeah. Also on
New Year's Eve three thirty, the Kinders Texas Bowl, it
is Baylor at eight and four. It is LSU at
eight and four. Else he's favored by one. We got
both starting tackles and tight end Mason Taylor opting out

(01:13:53):
for LSU. CJ. Daniels or wide receiver. Also in the portal,
he's not going to play. Garrett Nusmeyer will. At time
of recording, he's coming back, still coming back right. I've
also seen that Kyraen Lacy is still in time of recording.
These things have change. LSU's got a bunch of guys
that we'll have to wait and see. My sense is this,

(01:14:14):
This looks like a fun game. Brian Kelly does not
lose bowl games to teams he's better than. He doesn't
lose bowl games like this. He will lose bowl games
to teams that are better than him. He will not
lose to Baylor in this game. I am certain of that.
So if I had to due lock of the week,
I would go LSU plus or minus the one point

(01:14:35):
basically LSU straight up.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
Okay, I don't know if I have a lean in
this game. Where's this game being played? Where's the Texas Bowl?

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
The Texas Bowl is being played in Houston NRG Stadium,
the Nerd.

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
Okay, So obviously in the footprint sort of both of
these teams. So there's no geographic advantage for Baylor or LSU.

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
Over under his fifty nine and a half points. So
Vegas is looking for a fun game.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
Yeah, I guess I lean LSU here. Vibes seem pretty down,
both with recruiting and portal and the way LSU finished
the season. Vibes seem pretty up for Baylor in the moment,
with the way they finished the season save David Randa's job. Yeah,
I think I might go Baylor. Here, you're going Baylor.
I think I might go Baylor because you're talking about

(01:15:28):
an LSU team when they cared, Yeah, really struggled on defense.

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
Well, look, my lock was or would be LSU. So
let's go Baylor. Yeah plus one as one of our bets.
Let's also do longest touchdown pass or just longest touchdown
in this game, Okay, because it feels like this one's
got big play potential up and down. Those are two bets.

Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
So what's the what's the number?

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
Oh, I don't know. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go
based on based on whatever the line get, whatever the
market gives me when we set this. But if if
I don't have that at my disposal, I would put
it at sixty four and a half yards.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
Okay, do you know what Kinders Kinders is? No idea
barbecue sauce. Oh, barbecue sauce, gravies, bone broth. No, that's
wing sauces, karaiaki sauces. Okay, looks like they've got some
dips and seasoning mixes.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
It appears to be available right by me. Okay, So
they're they're nationally distributed Kinders Kinders and Moronsin's nineteen forty
six beautiful. It makes sense with Texas.

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
Sure. So you know how when you go to like
a national park or a monument and they have those
inscribed plaques that are elevated at an angle so that
you can read them. Yes, this trophy is not that,
but it's not not that either. This is trading a
lot on a quality base. But they're basically built it

(01:17:05):
with the constraints of a trophy case in mind, you
have to google this. Go wherever you're at, go and
google the Texas Bowl trophy. I'm underwhelmed by this, to
say the least. There have been different iterations of it.
The latest one that I could find was not doing
much for me, especially now knowing that this is barbecue sauce.
Barbecue sauce so much with the barbecue sauce in Texas,

(01:17:28):
but Houston. This was a lackluster effort. It's so disappointing.
There are also some playoff games to discuss within this
span of time. We will be doing a separate preview
when we get to the quarterfinals. Of course, there will
be some bets that I pull and add for these

(01:17:49):
games to the Bingo card. Okay, so bear that in mind.
We won't talk about them because we don't know the
matchups yet. I will say this though, the Peach Bowl
trophy very weak. It's a Lombardi version. The Rose Bowl
also has a Lombardi quality to it. I think we
speak lovingly of the Rose Bowl because it is the
Rose Bowl. The trophy lackluster.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
It's got to say it. Someone's got to say it.
Dan Yeah, that's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
We've got the Sugar Bowl, which is also going to
be played. It is like a little silver football on
top of a very ornate looking chalice on top of
the super Dome. There's a lot going on there.

Speaker 2 (01:18:27):
Okay, love a chalice.

Speaker 1 (01:18:29):
And then there is the Fiesta Ball, which truly looks
like it was a competition to see how many things
they could stack on top of other things. Seriously, before
we go, I want you to go google Fiesta Bowl trophy.
All right, do it real quick. Bol trophy.

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
Here we go, Fiesta Ball trophy.

Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
Explain to me.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
May speak and taught me.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
Explain to me what this trophy is supposed to be.
Besides all the things, this is like Radiance Bowl gone
or Independence Bawl by Radiance Technologies. This is where they
got their inspiration.

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
The Fiesta Bol Trophy is a double base, yeah, with
a base four muscle bound bronzed people holding up a
second base that's right, which is then supported or supporting
more muscle bound or football players amongst gold leaves, sort

(01:19:28):
of setting two point stances of some kind with raised
purple urnish purple and gold looks like an urn with
then a golden football with the fiestable sun in the
middle of it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
Now, Look, maybe there is some tie to the local
culture that I am not aware. Maybe it's a new
Mexico Bowl situation, in which case I will happily eat
my words. Right, I will say this though, Even if
that is the case, there's a lot going on there. Yes,
that trophy could be sixty percent ornate, and it will
be one hundred percent better for it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
This looks like what you would present a dictator in
an oil rich country with, like Dictator of the Year,
Supreme Leader of the year. It's it's you for the
seventh straight year. It's tacky and golden and multi tiered.
Listen and don't go too far. We don't know if

(01:20:24):
there's a backstory. Okay, I don't know. If there's a backstory.
It might be it might have ties to rich local culture.

Speaker 1 (01:20:32):
I don't think so, tie, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
I just I've spent a lot of time in Arizona.
They could scale it back a little, okay, a little.
You would get like, yes, there is an emirate. There
is somebody running an emirate, and they have some sort
of marbled lobby that's filled with these trophies. This is
tacky and weird and you want again.

Speaker 1 (01:20:56):
Yeah, Thursday, the second of January, seven thirty, it's tax
Slayer Gator Bowl. We've got Duke nine and three Old
Miss nine and three. Old Miss favored by fourteen and
a half points. We got Malik Murphy back in the
portal for Duke. I think Ole Miss is way better.
That's where I feel. That's why I'm down on this game.

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
I do too, But how many players that played for
ole Miss during the season are playing in this game.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
It's hard to say at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:21:22):
I just between opt outs and the way that they're portaling,
like they're turning over the roster like crazy every year.

Speaker 1 (01:21:28):
So I think one of the beats should be Duke
plus the points plus never just to sort of play
against my better judgment.

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
Like I feel as if we're at the start of
the Lane Kiff and Sulk session between now and next August.

Speaker 1 (01:21:43):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
That's so I can understand ole Missus motivation against Penn
State in a big Bowl game last year. Yeah, but
against Duke in this one. I mean, this would be
really nice for Lane Kiff and to be like no offense,
But the ACC just doesn't understand what it's like to
play in these types of environments week in and week
out and then lose to Duke.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
That'd be great. Let's do ole Miss total team points,
ole Miss total team points, and let's set it at
like thirty seven and a half again, I mean, Duke
has a good defense. Thirty seven and a half. Dan, Okay,
if Laney wants to run it up.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
I love that under. Well, there's no motivation for role
Miss to run this up at all. You don't think
no zero zero motivation over thirty seven and a half,
because this is not like when you have a twelve
team playoff and you're left out of a twelve team
playoff for losing three games, an amount of games that
would never get you into a postseason.

Speaker 1 (01:22:46):
Give me a number, give me, give me a point total,
give me an over.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
Twenty seven and a half, twenty nine, and.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
You want to go under twenty seven thirty.

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
One and a half somewhere, and give me give me
an under for old Miss. I would take the under
at thirty one and a half. Yes, all right, I'm
gonna drot this down. If we don't have a team
points total, we're gonna go thirty one and a half.
We'll do Duke plus the points will do ole Miss
under I'm looking at what Duke's defense allowed this year
in terms of points. They played a playoff team in
overtime and allowed twenty eight points in overtime at home

(01:23:22):
they allowed, mind you, they allowed fifty three to Miami,
a Pop Tart champion eligible Miami.

Speaker 1 (01:23:29):
That's right, but.

Speaker 2 (01:23:30):
Otherwise they kept most teams between like twenty and twenty
four points. Right, ol Miss is better than most teams.

Speaker 1 (01:23:37):
But not without motivation. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
Thirty one and a half.

Speaker 1 (01:23:41):
Is a weak effort in the trophy front. Is a
Lombardi Trophy? Creative enough base It's the Gator Bowl. They
did nothing with that. They could have done so much
with a bull titled the Gator Bowl.

Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
Or they could have done something with tax Slayer and
have like a sword in the like a bejeweled sword
or something like that and work into the Slayer.

Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
This is this is just weak. Now. I don't know
what tax Layer is paying for this, but throw in
a few extra bones and get a good trophy. This
is just no. This isn't doing it for me. This
is lower tier among all the bowl games. Yeah, Friday
January the third, four pm the SERF Pro First Responders
Bowl between North Texas at six and six and Texas

(01:24:23):
State at seven and five. Texas State favored by ten points.
I'm on Texas State here because North Texas is going
to be starting a freshman at quarterback who's got, you know,
limited experience. They've got a couple starters on offense who
are also in the portal.

Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
One of them, I think, just committed to Oregon today.
I saw that tackles. Yeah, I haven't seen like. This
is one of the things that we don't know for
sure at time of recording. It's part of what makes
these shows almost impossible to do in advance, just because
a guy's on a portal. As we discussed a little
bit when we talked about bo Brabula on the last
episode or one of the last two episodes, it's it's
difficult to know if you're in the portal if that

(01:25:01):
means you are also opting out because in a lot
of cases they still play, they're just going to go elsewhere.
In some cases team policy, they're off the team. I
don't know what the deal is, say, I don't know
how many of these guys are going to be playing
for North Texas or not. Either way, I think it's
a distraction, and either way, I think Texas State is
the better team. This is not a game I look

(01:25:22):
at and I say defense. So I think one of
the interesting bets that we could put in here is
a defensive touchdown in this game. Okay, set it a half,
just or just in general, Okay, a defensive touchdown is
scored in this game. North Texas a big struggle bus
on defense this year and Texas State one of the

(01:25:43):
best fifteen or twenty offenses in America.

Speaker 1 (01:25:46):
Ten points is the line. It's a big number. But
I think I favorite Texas State here.

Speaker 2 (01:25:50):
As do I.

Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
This is a light up trophy, Dan. Finally we get one.
I like that. Finally we get one sort of a
police light situation on top with a button on the
back that turns it on. It is marvelous. It is marvelous.
So if your basement floods, or you've got fire damage,
or you need someone to come in and restore your house,
serve Pro is the company for you. Not a sponsor

(01:26:11):
could be yep. Also support this company because they know
how to build a trophy lighting it up. They light
it up. I feel like they are lighting the way
no pun intended for where trophies head next. There's a
lot of potential here for light up trophies, and there
just aren't a whole lot of teams doing it. So
Pop Tarts zoom past the field they're the yellow car

(01:26:34):
and rc pro am they're way out in front at
this point. Yeah, but Serve Pro has been here doing
this for the last six years now with the light
up trophy, and I got to believe that people are
going to start taking notice and trying to model theirs
after these guys.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
So cutting edge trophy technology. They might go bankrupt, but
they'll go bankrupt because of R and D with regard
to trophies given out for mid level Bowl games. Two
more games here, let's close it out strong please Friday anyway,
the third, seven thirty pm The Duke's Mayo Bowl Dan Yeah,
Minnesota seven and five Virginia Tech six and six. Minnesota

(01:27:09):
is a healthy favorite about six and a half points.
I believe it's Colin Slee at quarterback for Virginia Tech. Okay,
I think it was as of December thirteenth. We're recording
this a few.

Speaker 1 (01:27:23):
Days after it looked as if Karen Drones was not
going to play. Okay, so I'm going to presume it's
Colin Slee. They've also had a couple opt outs. They
have four other starters in the portal. When I think
of Duke's Mayo Bowl and I think of coaches around
college football that will be able to embody the spirit
of the Duke's Mayo Bowl, I can think of maybe

(01:27:47):
three other coaches that would do a better job of
it than PJ. Fleck. This is a game that has
PJ Fleck written all over it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
Okay, he may have to take.

Speaker 1 (01:27:55):
The c zip off before the Mayo bath. Okay, uh huh,
but this one's got PJ rint all over it. I'm
on Minnesota minus the points here, I.

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
Am as well. I think there is something about the
Minnesota defense and the energy level of Minnesota. Good year
for the Gophers. I'm going I'm going Minnesota as well.
Are you a mayo person.

Speaker 1 (01:28:17):
By the way, Yes, and no. I some people get
really aggressive with the mayo. I always go a little
bit of mayo. You don't slather, no, no, A little
bit of me. If they give me the choice on
the wah wah sandwich, I always select a little bit
of mayo, just a little bit to give it a

(01:28:38):
little bit of flavor, but no, not over the top.
I enjoy mayo.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
I have two kinds of mayonnaise in my house right now.
I'm a Duke's person and a qupie person. A cute
Japanese Keupie. It's k e w p Ie. You can
find it at most groceries. QP Keupie. It's Japanese male
that only has the yolks in it. Okay, no egg
whites whipped into it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:59):
Honestly, you could tell me almost any ingredient and I
would believe you that it's in mayonnaise. I have no
idea how mayonnaise has made. It's like whipped eggs. That's
all whipped eggs.

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
Yeah, with some seasoning. But yeah, that's that's what mayonnaise is.
It's not that complicated. I'm going to Minnesota here. I
like mayonnaise. This game is in Charlotte, correct, This game
is in Charlotte. Yeah, if you're in Charlotte, if you're
a Minnesota person, if you are a Virginia tech person.
There is a pizzeria that I'm dying to go to

(01:29:31):
Charlotte called Bird pizzeria, Bird Pizzeria, Bird Pizzeria. Which Mary's
you love birds and you love pizza tie? I do, yeah,
Bird Pizzaia. It looks sensational. I need a bet for
this game. UM close it out, strong man, Come on
this one. We got one more after this.

Speaker 1 (01:29:51):
Do we have?

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
Is Darius Taylor playing in this game?

Speaker 1 (01:29:54):
I have not seen any opt outs to play it safe.
We can just go rushing yards if that's something that
you're interested about.

Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
A combined because we have two. I mean, if both
starting running backs are playing in this game.

Speaker 1 (01:30:04):
I don't I don't know about Virginia Tech on that front,
but right we could do combined rushing yardage.

Speaker 2 (01:30:12):
Combined rushing yardage in this game, well three hundred somewhere
in there.

Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
Combined rushing yards we'll say over to eighty nine and
a half.

Speaker 2 (01:30:26):
I can give you the rushing averages this year.

Speaker 1 (01:30:29):
What's the rushing averages.

Speaker 2 (01:30:30):
So rushing offense, we'll say against conference teams. Minnesota ran
for one hundred and five yards a game. That's not
that many, one hundred and thirteenth in the country. Virginia
Tech at one eighty six, so combine two ninety one.

Speaker 1 (01:30:45):
So I'm pretty close, pretty close. Let's go to eighty
nine and a half combined rushing yard and we'll say
over over for this one final game. Then the Bahamas.
Oh no, wait, hold on, we got a trophy. It's
like a crystal football. This is like the old National
Championship trophy with the base.

Speaker 2 (01:31:02):
For a mayo game.

Speaker 1 (01:31:03):
Yeah no, And like Duke's been pushing the limits here
for a few years, they showed that they can solve
the problem of the mayo being too thick and then
bonking was it Shane Beemer on the head in the
first one?

Speaker 2 (01:31:15):
I want to say, was it did Locksley win this
one year?

Speaker 1 (01:31:19):
I think he did? Yeah, yeah, but they had to
dilute the mayo so they could pour it out right.
And the next frontier for them is coming up with
a better trophy. I mean, this should absolutely be a
bronze jar of Duke's mayo. Something cool, like a little
brown jug but make it Duke's mayo, something fun. This
is a mayonnaise bowl, right, don't give out a crystal football,

(01:31:42):
give like a something funny out Okay, something fun Now
the Bahamas Bowl Final Bowl game, final non playoff bowl game.
After this, it's all playoff games. We'll have the semi
finals a couple of days after this. We'll have the
National Championship about ten days after that. Housball presented by
Atlantis Resorts. It's Buffalo at eight and four. It's Liberty

(01:32:04):
at eight and three. Liberty favored by one point. Liberty
down Caden Salter, three linemen, Bryce Dixon along the defensive line.
Jamie Chadwell thinks there could also be other opt outs here.
Dan okay, Uh, Liberty's favored by one. I'm on Buffalo.
I think I'm on Buffalo as well. I'm putting Buffalo

(01:32:24):
moneyline on my sheet.

Speaker 2 (01:32:27):
Buffalo finished the season this year like a very quietly
interesting year for Buffalo finished the year winning four straight
that's right, and scoring a bunch of points in the process.
Even though their numbers offensively weren't great all year long,
they seem to turn it on near the end of
the year.

Speaker 1 (01:32:45):
This is basically just a Myrtle Beach Bowl trophy. They're
gonna fly it over to the Bahamas when they're done
with it, because I don't think whoever wins it there
is gonna want it. Right. This is a poor effort.
This is a poor effort. I am gonna combine all
of these into the world's longest Twitter thread or longest
Twitter posts. I haven't decided yet, but I put so

(01:33:05):
much research into this. We're going to do the power
rankings out somewhere where people can enjoy them, so you
will see more of this from me. But this is
a weak effort Myrtle Beach Bowl trophy style here with
the Bahamas Bowl.

Speaker 2 (01:33:17):
Where are they playing this game this year.

Speaker 1 (01:33:20):
Because last year was in Charlotte, right, this game is
being played and we pull this up. Yeah, they're playing
this one at Thomas A. Robinson Stadium.

Speaker 2 (01:33:31):
Okay, they're back in the Bahamas. They're back in Nasau, Oka.

Speaker 1 (01:33:33):
Yeah, yeah, they're back in Nasau. And by the way,
Buffalo is now favored by one and a half points.

Speaker 2 (01:33:38):
So since we both just took them, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:33:41):
If the line moves since we took them in the
last five minutes, but it's moved since I made the doc. Great,
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Speaker 2 (01:35:03):
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(01:35:26):
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Speaker 2 (01:35:58):
Yeah, and if you want, I guess, the most immersive
possible experience in watching the live watch alongs or the
reaction show. They will also be airing in the Vegas sphere.
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Speaker 2 (01:36:32):
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Penn State Oregon a close kind of back and forth game.

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Speaker 1 (01:37:07):
I've seen you during close organ games, you just will
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