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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
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Whoo whoo? And no Dan and Tye Dan Rubinstein. Week
eleven is upon us, My friend. It is a pleasure
to be back with you as we preach all the
goodness of the college football ether to our wonderful Verbawlerhod.

(00:49):
Welcome back, sir, How are you good? Have you heard
the good news? Week eleven is going to be fun?
So yes, ty, I am very excited for Week eleven.
I am excited for I think we're gonna be getting
more football weather, right, I think we're going to be
getting some some more cold, some more rain. The leaves
have finally really dramatically started changing here. I think the
shots in and out of commercials are gonna be electric

(01:12):
with autumnal vibes. Tie, a lot of foliage, that type
of thing in the greater Northeast and around the country. Oh,
the colors, the reds, the oranges, oranges, the horhes are
gonna be spectacular. No, this is great, tie. This is
We're gonna have football weather throughout this great land, and
we're gonna have I think a lot of heat on
the field regardless tie. And I'm thinking maybe some upsets.

(01:35):
I'm thinking maybe because we're going to talk more about
the college football playoff rankings picture, You're gonna start seeing
some more graphics during these games. And this side like, hey,
so is what does A and M need to do?
What is what does BYU need to show a lot
of those types of conversations now that it's November. That
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(01:57):
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not least, not to bury the lead or anything. Okay,
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sOliver rebel dot com slash carousel. The way it works,
there are obviously nine openings right now. Now. First you

(03:01):
have to pick four more that you think might come open.
Doesn't matter if the coach gets fired or if coach leaves,
it still counts the same.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
That's the first step. The second is then you got
to match up the openings with the coach. Along the way,
you get points for one of the schools opening, one
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for that one, but we've had a bunch of people

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sign up already. We barely even announced it, so I
think there's going to be a lot of interest in it.
If nothing more, it's just going.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
To be a lot of fun.

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Trace Armstrong. We are filtering out any suspicious activity from
any agency. But otherwise there will be prizing, there will

(04:20):
be drama, there will be news excitement. I can't wait.
So I guess on the heels of you talking about
some autumnal vibes that you're picking up. Yeah, is that
to imply that you're going to go with like Sycamore Saturday. Oh,
good reference. No, I'm not going Sycamore Saturday. That's a tree, right,

(04:41):
It is a tree. Yeah, a tree is a sycamore. No.
I was looking at the matchups here, and we have
reached the point of the season where teams can go
into a couple of different directions if things are going poorly, right,
we have make the one two three CanCon jokes about
like just trying to get to know Christmas, break and
get out of town, get somewhere warm and load up

(05:01):
for the recruiting class the portal time and figure out
what to do next year. Or they're the teams who
want to finish strong. They're the teams who sees an
opportunity to play spoiler. They're the teams who sort of
have nothing to lose. Your john Wick teams, your Bride
from kill Bill teams, where they're just like, you know what,
it's November, let's figure out our own private warpath. And

(05:24):
when I looked at the slate this week and I
see teams on there playing in big games like Wisconsin
taking on Washington. Ranked in the newest college Football Playoff rankings,
Mississippi State is hosting Georgia. Penn State has been in
this position a couple of times this year since moving
on from James Franklin in their games against Iowa and
Ohio State, but now this week they have Indiana LSU

(05:47):
moving on from Brian Kelly taking on Bama, Boston College
taking on SMU, and a potential letdown spot for SMU
after their win Auburn. Who does Auburn have this week? Vanderbilt? Okay,
Vanderbilt Top fifteen teams. So I have this as a
score threw it Saturday? Why because that's why, That's exactly why,
you know what, screw it? Screw it. Let's do it

(06:07):
this week and you can. It's easy to get up
if you have the right roster of you know, emotional
focused dudes to say why not us this week? Now,
let's just go out and do something crazy and beat
so and so. So. I have it as a screw
it Saturday because I do think one of those teams
is going to successfully screw it. How about that?

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah, Well, look it's it's come down the stretch now.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
It is about to be week eleven. We've got a
number of games on our docket that we're going to
go through over the next hour or so. Go back
and listen to the Tuesday episode where we did a
deeper dive of the BYU Texas Tech game in addition
to the Oregon Iowa game. You told me that out
on YouTube people didn't quite get the joke about my locks. Yeah,

(06:58):
well you made the lock, you know, locking up Oregon
and winning by ten or whatever at Kinnick because you
wanted to be goofy and take it to me because
you've been terrible at making picks. And the responses have
been like the arrogance, the arrogance involved with the gentlemen
on the left, which I appreciate, I always, I always

(07:21):
love We spent you know, ten minutes talking about how
tough of a game it's going to be for both
of these teams, and you make a goof at the
end the arrogance, So I always appreciate it. Yeah. No,
I think there's there's a good amount at the top
this week, especially with what game Day is going to
Lubbock for Texas Tech BYU there's a good amount at
the top. There's a good amount of opportunity for unforeseen

(07:42):
drama snaking the toilet Saturday style if you will, and
I can't wait. So, yeah, we discussed those two games
on the Tuesday episode. You've gotten some pushback for not
mentioning Texas A and M in the the SEC Home
Stretch race as like likeliest to play in the SEC

(08:03):
Championship Game, just using projections, and they are of course
number three in the country right now. Sure, I don't
know if the floor is yours or if you stand
by your own mission.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Oh no, I mean, listen, here's the deal active Tuesday show.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Yeah, it was. It was based on projections. I mean,
Texas A and M is undefeated right now. And if
you go based on the projections that I was looking
at Texas's favorite to beat Texas A and M. I
probably should have specified that I didn't, and I think
that was a source of confusion. But I think anybody
who's listened to this show for any period of time,
at least throughout the course of the season, you know

(08:37):
I'm all in on A and M. I was talking
at A and M when we were doing our SEC
preview as a playoff team, as a contender, I think
I had them in the SEC title game, right, So
I really like this team I have from the start.
And it's not so much personal opinion that I think
they're not going to make that game. I'm just going
based on projections, and I think the broader point is

(08:57):
just that while it is silly eason on the coaching side,
and while it is also CFP ranking season, which we'll
get to in a second, is also tiebreaker season, and
I would say at least three of the four power
conferences stand to have some pretty funky tie breakers, which
I am all in for. I'm definitely excited about. I

(09:18):
mean no disrespect to our Aggie brethren out there. I
love the team. I'm excited to see where they go.
I'd be even more excited if Mike Elco took the
Penn State job. But that's I was gonna say. You're
not against sending anonymous texts now the Alco family saying
no super livable area of pa very the you talk
talk about autumnal vibes, it's violent on those trees. I've

(09:39):
seen it. It is beautiful country. So look, why don't
we get into this first we do have somecking news.
The first college football Playoff rankings were revealed on Tuesday evening.

(10:04):
They are as follows, number one Ohio State, number two, Indiana,
number three, the aforementioned Texas A and m Aggie's number
four Alabama. Those would be your top four teams, the
ones getting buys. Beyond that, it would be a five
to twelve matchup Georgia hosting Memphis, It would be a
six to eleven matchup with ole Miss hosting Virginia, it

(10:24):
would be a seven to ten matchup with BYU hosting
Notre Dame, and it would be an eight to nine
matchup with Texas Tech hosting Oregon. Of note, here we
were only a few off with the with the projected bracket,
I should say that we put out on our Tuesday episode.
A few teams were jostled about here. The committee felt differently.

(10:47):
I think about BYU ole Miss, they were a little
bit higher. On Oregon, they were a little bit lower.
But by and large we got the first four right.
We got the teams right. It was really just a
matter of placement. Of course, this kicks off all whole
round of speculation. It's our friend Ari Wasserman talking about
Notre Dame versus Miami versus whatever. I mean, what was
his stance. I believe his stance was, you know, he

(11:11):
thinks Notre Dame was ranked a little too high, and
if I'm wrong about that, then Ari can tell me
and I'll you know, I'll make amends. I'll save me
a kulpa. But I believe the sentiment that I was
picking up on just as I was perusing social media
was that, at least at present, he believes Notre Dame
is ranked too high.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Which is fine if that's your opinion.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Of course, there is this whole other complicating factor now
that Miami also has two losses and Notre Dame is
ranked like eight spots above them in the polls. But
alas dan are nevertheless, as I've been told to say
in place of a lass, oh please, any reaction to
what you saw on the ranking side, Well, it's just
it's always funny to me, because this is going to

(11:49):
be constant catching stray season, right that you are going
to evaluate a team's resume and say, you know, the
typical they haven't played anybody, they beat up on a
bunch of cupcakes, and you're like, wait a minute, I
root for that cupcake? Are you calling Clemson a cupcake?
There's been a bunch of teams that have been disappointing

(12:09):
that otherwise would have been resume builders. But now beating
Clemson or Florida State or Florida or Auburn or Penn State,
any of those types of teams isn't viewed in the
you know, in the same lens, in the same way.
And so we got it last year with you know,
looking at Alabama's resume and that they lost to oh gloom.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Gross.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
And so that's the season where we are entered into.
And so as an Oregon person, Oregon is lower than
I guess the A people right the AP and Coaches Bowl.
But on a certain level, I get it because their
performance this last month. They destroyed Rutgers, but otherwise struggled
offensively for stretches against Wisconsin, even with Dante More in
the game, certainly struggled on offense against Indiana in a

(12:57):
losing effort. So you understand that or with limited opportunities
to show out against quality teams, hasn't and so not
even that Wisconsin is a quality team at this point.
So that's the question. And you know, BYU winning is
better than losing. And even though some of those games
have been close or they've fallen behind, and it hasn't

(13:17):
been a pretty four straight quarter performance BYU is winning.
Texas Tech has been winning. They have a loss, but
Texas Tech has been quite impressive. And so there's there's
no there's no part of me, as a person interested
in Oregon's success that thinks to myself, why are they
number five? Like it'll take Oregon has the opportunity to
win out and get into the playoff comfortably beating Iowa, Washington,

(13:40):
USC and Minnesota. So I early November, you know, rankings,
to me, it's not a big deal. So the two
things that jumped out to me when I saw this bracket,
the very first is last season, I remember when we
looked at the final bracket and it was clear that
a team like Penn State, relative to the field, seem

(14:02):
to have a pretty easy road into the semifinals, and
they did. They beat up on SMU, they beat up
on Boise State. That was a very clear pathway to
get them into that semifinal game. As I'm looking at
this bracket right now, I don't see any of those
clean roads through to the semifinals. You know, it seems
maybe because of the straight seating model that they adapted adopted.

(14:24):
My gosh, I can't speak today. I need more of
that coffee. Both of them work. It doesn't seem as
though there is quite so easy and an obviously easy
road to get into that semifinal matchup with whoever. So
that's good, I think as a spectator. The second thing,
it doesn't take much. It takes like a stiff gust

(14:45):
of wind to get us a solid of O bowl
between Oregon and Notre Dame, the ideal ty. You know,
I wouldn't hate going to Notre Dame. I mean I
kind of would, because it's December in Indiana. It doesn't
take me much. Per this first set of the rankings
are gonna change like eight times. Yeah, Oregon is nine,
Notre Dame is ten. If they both slide up one spot,

(15:09):
suddenly Oregon's the eight, Notre Dames at nine, and then
they would play in Eugene that first week into the playoff.
So there is an opportunity here for a solid of
her bowl, provided nothing comes off the swivel. I should
say the third and final thing that we're gonna move
on because We've got a bunch of games to talk about. Yeah,
because of the way that this is set up right now,
they've got Virginia in as the eleven, They've got Memphis

(15:31):
in as the twelve. The way that the playoff is
set up again, the five highest seated conference champions are
the ones that get in by virtue of Virginia not
being in the top twelve, but being the projected ACC champion,
by virtue of Memphis being the group of six representative
winning the American that would knock number eleven and number

(15:51):
twelve out of the playoff. Those two teams are Texas
and Oklahoma. This is another thing you got to start
watching for. I got to see how high Virginia can climb.
They've got a big game coming up here in two weeks,
I guess next week against Duke, which I think is
going to have a pretty big bearing on what goes
down in the ACC. We got to watch that ACC race,

(16:12):
I think a little bit closer to figure out if
it's going to be the top eleven the top twelve,
to find out if it's just going to be the
top ten that make it through into this field plus
two other conference champions. That's where you start talking about
bubble teams or whatnot. We're still a little bit too
far away, I think to dig in too deep on
that front. But just something to keep on the radar screen,

(16:33):
because there are definitely, much like we saw last year,
some teams that could swoop in even if they're outside
the top twelve and take spots away from teams that
the Committee has ranked a little higher. Yeah, and it's interesting. Look,
we're evaluating a lot of these things looking forward, but
I think the big questions are going to come with
two loss teams and you're evaluating the losses, you're evaluating

(16:54):
the wins, and who can have the most impressive the
most impressive too, we talk about this all the time.
Who is going to be you know, we're going to
have teams like Utah, potentially Oregon, Notre Dame, maybe Miami.
I mean if Texas only loses two games, I guess
that means they won the SEC. Oklahoma potentially. There's a

(17:15):
lot here. And the interesting thing too is when you
evaluate these teams up against each other, maybe Alabama ends
up with the second loss, maybe they don't. Whatever, the
Tide have the worst loss of any of these teams
in the conversation, so once again we might be talking
about that though they only stand with one loss right now.
But when you look across the sport, I think what's

(17:38):
going to go a long way in determining the at
large nature of this conversation is just which ACC teams
start losing right right, because there's just a good grip
of them with only one loss. They're all of good quality.
But when that starts getting chipped away at, then the

(17:59):
picture will become clear solid. Rebot gmail dot com is
where you can write in if you've got something to
say about the first batch of playoff rankings. Again, they
weren't all that different, alver Baller top twelve. Everybody has
finally come home and realized that we have the superior
poll a limber pole at Limberpool for months, Dan, I

(18:19):
want to previous some games. Let's do it.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Time for help any of the week.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
So in response to my real point spread, Okay, I'm
told that I missed a golden opportunity to call it
ties point spread, which could be shortened to a TPS report.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
It's also been having some problems with his TPS reports.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
I have seen off the space perhaps more than any
other movie ever made. Okay, well, you do look like
Ron Livingston, like a little I've.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Been told that I look like Ron Livingston.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yeah yeah. It is one of the greatest professional failures
of my career that I did not pick up on
that sooner, So I appreciate the forballers who pointed it out.
I will make no such mistake again. I've got to
sound at the ready that's probably not even our like
fourth office space dound drop on this show.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
I have many office based.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
That's what I'm saying, Like this isn't even just introducing
it for the first time. Continuing, I don't think I
have the TPS one though, because I love we don't
find other ones, but I didn't find that one you have,
like the jump to conclusion Matt One. Yeah yeah, so
like you call it a screw it Saturday. What I'd
say is that the theme of the longer previews that
we're going to do here to start four of them,
is you've got top five teams that are either on

(19:42):
the road or in another matchup that you know we
would normally consider a centerpiece for the weekend, that being
the Alabama LSU game. But we do have some interesting
matchups with some of the top teams in this first
batch of rankings on the road, the first of which
is at high noon it's on Fox. It is number

(20:03):
two Indiana a fourteen and a half point favorite. That's
a lot of potatoes on the road at my Penn State,
Nitney Lyons Dan. So two crazy things. If I told
you at the beginning of the season that Indiana would
potentially go three and oh in road games against Iowa,

(20:27):
Oregon and Penn State, what would you have said to
that that they're probably number one or two in the country.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Or you would have looked at me like I had
two heads?

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yeah that too. But here we sit in. Indiana is
a healthy favorite. They will probably win on the road
at Penn State. They will probably end up three and
oh in those matchups. They are probably going to go
twelve and oero regular season and find their way into
the Big Ten title, perhaps against Ohio.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
State if they can get buy Michigan.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
Okay, sure. The second thing is this, and speaking of
Ohio State, for all to talk about Ohio State's defense,
which by the way, is like a brick wall and
is amazing. Indiana has not allowed more than fourteen offensive
points all season. One, and that was the first game
of the year against Old Dominion, and it was on
two long runs by the quarterback. Yes, it was like

(21:17):
the first play in the last place. Yeah, well again
did the game. Yeah, Nobody in the Big Ten has
scored more than thirteen offensive points. That's Michigan State, that's Iowa,
that's Oregon. All only got to thirteen if you take
out the safety against Iowa, if you take out the
pick six against Oregon.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
And so to the point of this game, I do
not see Penn State scoring more than that. I don't
think suddenly there's going to be this offensive explosion they're
going to find something that the other teams didn't. They're
just not gonna be able to do that with this quarterback,
with the way that this offense has played so far
this year. Yeah, so you're gonna need a lot more
than that to beat Indiana. In my opinion, I don't

(21:58):
think it's a question of what they or not on
DNA is going to beat Penn State. I think it's
a question more whether Indiana is going to beat the pointspread. Okay,
and so they've been pretty good at doing that this year.
They're like sixty six percent against the spread. But when
they cover, they cover comfortably. They beat it by like
an average of fourteen points. So all that being said,
Dan Rubinstein, you know where I stand. I feel pretty

(22:23):
good about Indiana winning this game. It really is to
me a matter of pointspread minus fourteen and a half.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
How do you feel here?

Speaker 1 (22:33):
Huh? I'm curious about this game. I have highlighted that
I am almost positive. I like Indiana. I guess the
only thing that gives me pause here was the way
Indiana performed last year in a similar spot. I think
it was at home though against Michigan, where Michigan didn't
really have much of an offense to speak of last season,

(22:54):
certainly not through the air. Penn State not built exactly
the same way as that Michigan team. But I don't
think anybody's counting on the Nitney Lions to throw all
that well against Indiana. That if they're going to have
success on offense, it's going to come on the ground,
and they're pairing that with a talented, you know, successful,
somewhat successful defense, that there is the potential for Penn

(23:16):
State to just muck it up but lose. The game
is in Happy Valley, which is you know, that's a
check mark for Penn State. So the potential of that
that Indiana, even running through their schedule last season, they
weren't winning by double digits every week, they weren't winning
by forty every week. This is not an Indiana team
that has a look ahead. This is not Indiana that

(23:37):
has a letdown. The only other thing that I'd be
concerned about in confidently picking Indiana because I don't see
a way for Penn State to score twenty four points
in this game, which I think is bare minimum. If
you have an outlandishly, a cartoonishly successful day defensively, I
still think you need to score twenty four points to
beat Indiana. Yea is Elijah Surratt beat up, Aiden Fisher's

(23:58):
beat up and they're down leave one of their interior
offensive linemen in this game. So during this home stretch,
this schedule should not be a terrible challenge for Indiana,
But the challenge may be in replicating the production of
some of the guys who may be out or dinged
up and not playing as much. That Indiana's depth might

(24:20):
be tested in November and we'll just learn more about
what this Indiana team is from, Like a holistic standpoint.
But again, you got to get to twenty four if
you're playing cartoonishly well against Indiana and have a chance
to win this game. And I don't see it. I
don't see Penn State gett into twenty four. I think
they can get to between fourteen and seventeen. Thirty one

(24:44):
fourteen is where I landed in this one. I've got
thirty eight to fourteen. I think it's going to be
a score like we saw last week against Ohio State. Yeah,
I'm just I'm not. I'm not feeling like they're suddenly
going to find another gear that we haven't se yet.
I think they kind of are what they are. I
think most teams are what they are. When you get
to week eleven, and you know, it's clear that being

(25:07):
at home gives them something of advantage, but it's not
as great an advantage simply because the quarterback situation isn't great,
simply because the offense as a whole has never really
come together and found this next level that we had hoped.
Even the defense isn't as good as it was a
year ago. It's not really even close. You can move
the ball in Penn State. So the team as a

(25:29):
whole is worse than last year. The team as a
whole is hamstrung this year in ways that it wasn't
last year. They did start twenty four, by the way
against Iowa. Sure a good defense on the road. Yeah,
but look, I'm just I'm not feeling it for Penn State.
And it's not even a knock on Penn State. It's
just a weird season. It didn't work out playing under
an interim coach. You know, I would be surprised if

(25:52):
they keep this one within you know, ten points, to
be honest with you, that would be a real surprise
to me. I root for that. I'm wearing my Penn
State shirt here right now. But I thirty eight fourteen's
my final prediction. Yeah, I think Penn State probably needs
two defensive touchdowns or like a defensive touchdown and then

(26:13):
a punt return to the three yard line kind of situation,
like they need to be able to cheat the clock
to get points in a pretty major way. Short of
that difficult to see. But it's college football. It's a
big new game, right This is Gus and Joel, not
Big Noon's Saturday. So there's not going to be the
fanfare that's I think Iowa Oregon. But you know, it's

(26:35):
still a big deal. It's still a big noon game,
It's still a big deal. I definitely think the crowd
will be into it. Agree.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
I am just not.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Of the mind that Penn State's got enough juice to
seriously challenge Indianna in this spot. But you know, I'd
be curious to see if Jim Knowles can scheme something
up to make Fernando Mendozo, who's been really good this
year and basically ironclad, but can they do something to
speed him up and make him a little bit more
uncomfortable than we've seen previously. I don't know, but I'm

(27:06):
gonna be looking for small tels like that hanging my
hat just as a Penn stater on some of those
points throughout the course of this game where it feels
like they are putting Indiana in new situations that they're
not ready for. Yeah, it'll be it'll be fun to watch,
hopefully for a good amount of time. I think that's true. Dan,

(27:28):
So again, your final score is thirty one fourteen, thirty
eight to fourteen for me. Yep, Let's move on. Let's
talk about number five Georgia minus seven and a half
on the road at Mississippi State. This one also at noon.
It's on the SEC network.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
So let me get this straight. Okay, here we are.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Georgia had a close win in a rivalry last week
against Florida. Can confirm they've got a monster game at
home against Texas next week.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Sandwiched in the middle.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
This is correct if only there were a term sandwich
right in the middle in between those two gigantic matchups.
Who got a little old team Missippi State. Mississippi State
is absolutely gonna have upset on the brain. They've had
three really big games at home thus far. Just to

(28:24):
refresh everyone's memory, they beat Arizona State, they lost to
Tennessee in overtime. Most recently, they also lost to Texas
in overtime. Yes, they are a very tough out, I
would say just in general. But they are absolutely a
tough out when they're playing at home, there.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Are no two ways about it.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
A long time ago on this show, we coined a
term called the letdown look ahead sandwich, Oh look at
dud sandwich.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
I'm so hungry.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
I'm so hungry. Oh boy, you could not have scripted
this matchup any more.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
To be the original definition.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Of a letdown, look ahead sandwich correct. With all that
being said, how do we feel about Georgia Misissippi State.
I really like Mississippi State here, I really really do.
Even last year when they were like abominably bad, they
gave Georgia a game for a good chunk of that.
And that was with a freshman, right. That was MVB
last year from Mississippi State.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
The Van Buren Boys.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Yeah, the Van Buren Boys. The defense has been fixed
to an impressive extent all things considered to where they
were last season. They're moving the ball with Blake shape,
and I think they have one of the more underrated
receiver duos and Brennan Thompson and Anthony Evans good amount
of speed there. A weird ugly win, but a win
nonetheless against Arkansas last week when Arkansas had eighteen penalties.

(29:45):
That's a lot of penalties, a lot of potatoes, right.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
I was gonna play forgot to keep going.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
So Mississippi State's on the board. I think situationally it's
a good spot. It's always tough to play in Starkville.
The weather is going to be Good's down. I think
a couple of dudes either in rotation or starting in
the middle of their defense. Georgia has more talent, but
there is something I think gettable still about Georgia's defense.
So the line at recording is what ty The line

(30:14):
is seven and a half. By the way the TPS report,
the real points for the ties points bread is Georgia
minus four. Fyi, Okay, I did this week. We're formula
in time for this week, and I think it's going
to be better. Okay, that's where I'm sitting. I could
see absolutely. I mean, the easiest pick here is Georgia's
offense is ugly, but they get it together enough of
an extent late to win this one close. Because that's

(30:36):
Georgia's entire season. I think that's what will be on Saturday.
I'm going Georgia here thirty to twenty seven.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
I think Georgia pulls it out just because they've been
nails late and Mississippi State hasn't been able to finish
in these big moments against Texas against Tennessee. I'm taking
Georgia to win barely. I mean, something that was boun
around in my head and I was trying to make
sense of this game. Georgia finds ways to win close games,

(31:06):
but Mississippi State finds a way to create them. Yeah,
to make them close. Yeah, you know, and there's some
value in that too. And I think Mississippi State. We
had somebody ask me, you know, why do I keep
saying that Mississippi State's one of the best stories in
college football. They had a three and a half over under.
They were projected to be the worst team in the SEC,
and with some of the moves that they made, I mean,

(31:28):
there was really no guarantees that this was going to
be a better team than we saw ye ago. Certainly,
the schedule has not done them any favors. It's been
a tough schedule, and I think that they have done
a really really good job building this roster, building this team.
They are never out of a game. They are a
tough out. They're absolutely a tough out. And yes, some
of they're not all of there, even not most of there,

(31:49):
but some of their defensive numbers are marginally better than Georgia's,
you know, like overall, george is still better. But like
EPA per play and points per drive allow some of
the nerd stats that you and I like to look at.
Both of those favor Mississippi State by a note. So
it's not a bad team, it's not a bad defense.
They haven't been out of a game in the fourth quarter. This, no, no, no.

(32:11):
And so even the A and M game they were
in the fourth quarter Florida, they were right there. They
lose by two, and then the games we already mentioned continue.
So yeah, if you gave me this matchup one hundred times,
I would probably take Georgia. Yeah, ninety five of them. Wow,
this isn't to say that maybe not that many, but
like the overwhelming majority. I would take Georgia because Georgie
is a better team. But I think situationally, given where

(32:33):
this game falls, given the fact that this could be
a de facto national championship ish situation, I mean, Mississippi
State still has Ole Miss to close out the year
in the Egg Bowl, that'll be a big one. But
this is a really, really prime opportunity for Mississippi State
to influence the college Football playoff, to influence the SEC

(32:53):
title race. So I've got Georgia winning, but thirty eight
to thirty four something in that neighborhood. I think you
and I are kind of like minded in that this
one could end up being close because Mississippi State finds
a way to make these games close. By the way,
Mississippi State, this is a nugget that may only interest
me in you. Mississippi State this season has faced the

(33:16):
defense Sam Levitt, Joey Aguilar, Marcel Reid, DJ Lagway, Arch Manning,
and Taylan Green. Their defensive performance in terms of points
per drive allowed is identical to Georgia's performance. Yep, points
per drive allowed identical given after the disastrous nature of

(33:37):
their defense last season, that just underscores your broader point
of just the step forward that they've taken this year.
Their defense is identical to Georgia's this year with those
quarterbacks faced pretty impressed. I believe I looked at your
d analytics before jotting this down, and Georgia's allowed something
like two points per drive and Mississippi State has averaged
something like one point ninety nine. It is basically, oh yeah,

(34:01):
basically the same. Great, this will be a fun matchup.
I don't know, we could be way off here, but
we both tend to agree here.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
In the Mississippi State plus the points.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Let's go to three point thirty ABC, it is number
three Texas ay and M minus seven on the road
at number nineteen Missouri, the TPS report is A and
M minus seven as well, so it seems to be
some alignment there on the Missouri side. We've got Matt Zohlers,
the freshman. He is going to get the start for

(34:32):
the injured bau Pribula, who is down for the year
or at least most of the year. Near you, right,
he's from near you. Matt Zohlers is from Royersford. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
so's he's from like sort of outside. Saying outside Philly
is making it sound like it's closer to Philly than
it is, but it's within like an hour of Philadelpia.
Yeah yeah, yeah. And bau Purbula is from York, which

(34:53):
is a little bit farther west. So these are two
PA guys that are steering the ship at the quarterback position,
you know, outside of Sam Horn down there at Missou.
So Eli Drinkwitz loves his Pennsylvania quarterbacks, say, and I
interest you there were there were pictures of him when
he was younger wearing a penn State shirt. Maybe, oh man,
if you're playing the coaching carousel game. Celibrable dot Com

(35:15):
slash carousel. Yeah, maybe something to consider guys actively trying
to influence the market.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
I would I would gladly take Eli Drinkwitz.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Okay, continue. I thought Matt Zolers looked okay two weeks
ago against Vandy.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Yeah, I thought I thought he looked capable.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
And I read some of the comments that the coaching
staff had about Matt Zohlers and some of the comments
that his teammates had about him. They're not going to
try to dumb down the playbook. They're not necessarily adding
a bunch of new wrinkles. But he's not a runner
in the way bopribula. No.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
But they but they feel like they can do a
lot of the same stuff.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
Okay, they're not taking stuff out of the playbook, which
I think is a testament to how much confidence they
feel in this guy.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
I thought he looked good.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Now this would be a tough ask of him. And
I think the question that I want to see is
can they throw? Can they throw on A and M?
If they want to have any chance of winning this game,
they got to throw on A and M because they've
got a good enough rushing attack with a mod hardy,

(36:22):
which is where A and M is vulnerable by the way,
which is where Yeah, but only if there is some balance,
you know, if it's a one dimensional attack, and if
Mike Elco and that defensive staff can simply stack the
box and stop a mod hardy that way, then it's
ballgame them.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Zoo doesn't have a chance. This is why they need
to throw. If they can throw, if.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
They can establish some element of balance here, then I
think that gives them a fighting chance. But the one
dimensional thing is not going to get it done right.
I would not bet this game. I think there's a
good chance it's slow and ugly and right around that
seven number that I mentioned Earl. I do trust A
and M more here, and I think ultimately they get
the job done. So you know, if I'm forced to pick,

(37:08):
I probably got A and M something along the lines
of thirty one twenty four ish, thirty one to twenty ish.
But I would not bet this game with any actual
American coin. No, I understand where you're coming from. I
like ANM here, just because if you're gonna put on,
if you're gonna dot, don your cap, doff, don don

(37:30):
your cap. As the engineer of the Underthink Express, it's
basically you get Mike Elco, an incredible pass rush and
arguably the best third down defense in America taking on
a freshman quarterback.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
And for whatever potential mats Ollers has and will even
show in this game, it's man. This seems got blown
out last year with an experienced quarterback when we thought
positive vibes about Maszoo and they got ripped limb from limb,
and I think that was it was out a Marcel
Reid game. I think that was a Connor Wigman game. Yes, yep.

(38:06):
But even still, there is something about where this defense is.
They're going to stack the box and make Zolers beat them.
They have not been a team who, even with Bo Brabulah,
has been popping them downfield successfully. I just think it's
going to be more challenging even at home. I have
A and M winning this game by seventeen seventeen. Yeah,

(38:28):
I have them comfortably winning. I just if Matt Zolers
is not an already game changing quarterback, it's just very
difficult to see him leading an offense to get to
the point where they can score I don't know, twenty
four points against A and M. No, so it's a

(38:50):
tough road environment, and it goes against my rubric of
you know, this is what a dog at home with
a good defense, right, But they're without their starting quarterback,
and change is a little bit of my rubric calculus.
So yeah, I think they win by a couple of touchdowns.
Plus I am still in on Texas A and I
am very much so in the SEC. I love this team.
I think they're going to be a force if they

(39:11):
get to the playoffs. I mean, they're going to be
a really tough out just because of the way they
play offense and because they're so physical on defense. But
I'm just going to say this again because you know,
tiebreakers are something of a novelty for me this time
of year. If A and M were to drop one
along the way, whether it's this one against Maszoo, whether
it's against Texas Slate, doesn't have to be both.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
But just those are the two biggies, Yeah, those are
the two biggies with it, they just drop one of them.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
The tiebreaker math is not necessarily in their favor just
because of all the different variables that come into play here. Okay,
so I want A and M to win this game.
I want A and M to win out because I
have been rooting this team on. I like Mike Elko,
I like this team a lot. I'm just saying again,
keep that on the back of your mind, probably like
two weeks away from really having to paid too much
attention to it. Just know that I've started paying attention

(39:58):
to it back at like the early part of October,
and I'm just saying right now, that's something that is
very much on my radar. Yeah, this will be by
the way, what these quarterbacks are able to do with
their feet. We know Marcel Reid is proven in that department.
These quarterbacks will be staring down the two of the
best five or six pass rushes in America. Yes, in

(40:19):
this game. So footwork, scrambles, improvising, seems like it's going
to be huge. And I don't even you know, I
like these offensive lines, fine, I really like Texas A
and M's but even still, these are two lines that
are going to be collapsing pockets. They are going to
be making life hell in the backfield, it seems. And
both off of a bye as well, both off of

(40:40):
a bye seven point thirty ABC LSU unranked. What that
doesn't sound right? Fact check that on the road at
number four Alabama, Alabama is a ten point favorite. Dan, Wow,
that's a lot of potatoes.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
Play it again, man.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
So this is a good matchup, right, This is one
that we normally look forward to this weekend every single year.
We all remember that nine to six matchup back in
twenty eleven, probably when about half of our listeners were
ten years old, so showing our age a little bit here,
but that was a game we all remember that being
a close game. LSU has only won this matchup twice

(41:26):
since then, and when they do it's by a couple points.
On the flip side, Alabama's won this one a bunch
of times, and most of the time when they do
it's by like two scores.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Comfortably.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
They have scored forty two points in each of the
last two matchups over the last two seasons against LSU.
I would be surprised, frankly if they did it again,
since LSU is at least better on defense this time around.
But we can't rule anything out. We don't know the
headspace for LSU.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
They just lost a coach making some changes. What is
the morale going to be like? In Baton Rouge I
don't know. Right.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
For what it's worth, the TPS report has this one
at BAMA minus thirteen. Just again, even more potatoes. Here
is my curiosity for you. My curiosity is this, They
made a coaching change at LSU. Yeah, as far as
I can tell, Yes, it wasn't just Brian Kelly. It
was also Joe Sloan, the offensive coordinator, Alex Atkins.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
Remember that name?

Speaker 1 (42:28):
I do Florida State? Yep. Alex Atkins, who was a
tight ends coach, is going to be a new play
caller for LSU this week. Obviously, as you just mentioned,
he's got some experience as an offensive coordinator, was mostly
successful at Florida State before the twenty four campaign, which
you know, yeah, other than that, how is the play

(42:49):
missus Lincoln? Yeah? Other than right, Other than that, everything
was pretty good in his tenure at Florida State.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
He since moved on, you know, he's at LSU now.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
Is there any chance that given the switch at play caller,
maybe a quick switch of culture. I don't know if
that's even possible. Is there a chance we could see
a better version of the LSU offense and Saturday Night
that maybe could challenge Alabama in a game like this man,
Normally I would say no, just because Alabama's excellence is

(43:21):
pretty obvious on offense and defense. They don't run the
ball that well, hasn't mattered that much, and they've dealt
with some injuries. Of course, there is the abf of it, although, Ty,
that's the after Brian factor. Yeah, how long did it
take before those stories kept coming out and coming out

(43:41):
and coming out where it was like, here's what it
was like behind the scenes at LSU under Brian Kelly.
It was a lot of people who are like, no,
I will definitely go on the record to talk about
how much I don't like Brian Kelly. You know what
it reminds me of with Brian Kelly, And we've seen
this a couple times now. You know, whatever he leaves
a place, the stories come out almost immediately. How much
time you got is basically what everybody's response was. It's

(44:01):
like when The New York Times has an obituary pre
written correct and as soon as somebody passes, they just
fill in the details, the date, at the time, the
cause of death, and they're ready to hit publish almost immediately.
That's how it feels when BK leaves a place, and
you start getting these post wartems that come out with,
as you said, people who are ready willing and able
to go on the record. It was like I had

(44:23):
no relationship with him. I don't think he knew my
name when I got, you know, sick and was in
the hospital. He never even reached out at all. It
was a lot of that, And so I think there
is an after Brian factor. I think Shoulders might be
a little bit looser, a little bit more relaxed. Do
you disagree? No, I don't. I this is why I
asked the question to be honest with you. Yeah, I
don't love I don't love this offensive line any more

(44:46):
than where it's played this season. I don't love the
lack of balance on offense, especially given the talent at
running back that LSU definitively has. It's just the running
game and the blocking haven't been there, and the balance
and the play calling hasn't been there. I have LSU
covering this game, okay. I have the emotion of this game,

(45:06):
LSU rising to the moment enough that they're able to
make this interesting. We have not seen a bulletproof Alabama
team this year. And I'm not even counting Florida State,
but you know, Vanderbilt played them tough for most of
that game. Obviously, South Carolina was in line to beat Alabama.
This hasn't been a team that has controlled four quarters

(45:26):
every week. And that's okay, it's college football. That's an
unrealistic expectation. But I think here LSU has the opportunity
to get to like high teens around twenty and I
don't see Alabama scoring more like I think the A
and M game was an outlier in terms of performance
for LSU, which is why they made the change. They
were up, they played well, they turned over Marcel read

(45:48):
in that first half. They did a good job situationally,
they did. So I have I have bamahir twenty seven
to twenty twenty seven to twenty be a great game.
I'm really a good game here, I really am. I mean,
I'm taking the points. I root for good, close games
all the time. There's also, by the way, I know
I'm jumping in once again, like you work in a
basement all day. I work in a basement all day.

(46:10):
I lean into the fact that I work in a basement,
not getting around it. You've had bad days in your life.
I've had bad days in my life. One of the
best things you can do if you're stressed out, if
things are chaotic around you, if you're having a bad day,
you gotta go for a walk. You gotta get outside.
You need some fresh air. Things are chaotic in Baton Rouge.

(46:32):
I love that this game is on the road for Lsu.
I love that they're getting on a plane, they're getting
on a bus, they're staying in a hotel. I think
that's great for the Tigers, that they can get away
from the noise. Should we have a new segment called
Real Talk with Dan Rubinstein, Real Talk with Dan Robinstein,
Get Outside, Colin, Real Talk with Dan Rubers, Get Outside.

(46:54):
I hear you. Look, I'm my curiosity is whether or
not the thing is real the after Brian factor. Yeah,
and if Alex Atkins can find something with this offense
that Joe Sloan didn't go love that. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
I'm just it's fair to ask the question, though, right.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
I agree. I agree. I've got thirty three to twenty Alabama. Okay,
so maybe it's twenty seven to twenty and then there's
like a late score of late pairing of field goals
or something, but front I've got it at a thirteen
point spread in favor of Obama because that's what the
computer said. The TPS support, I think, with the proper modifications,

(47:34):
was actually quite close last week. Okay, well, I'm going
to need the cold hard data. I'm going to see
what the TPS model. I still I still am trying
to figure out a way that I can present this
visually to you and others, because I owe that to
the baller hood, right if I first need to get
the model in a point where it's you know, respectable. Okay, okay,
fair enough.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Let's go rapid fire through a few other games that
are going on.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
Okay, please, okay, yep. This Big ten network four thirty,
it is number twenty four Washington and eleven and a
half point favorite on the road at Wisconsin, Dan, who
you got, oh man? If Wisconsin had shown anything offensively
up to this point, I would love Wisconsin here, just
because Washington has struggled so much on the road under Jedfish.

(48:20):
It just hasn't been And I don't what's the weather,
by the way, this dagonmaticity, you're the weather, Come on, TI,
I am the Okay, I mean I took a meteorology
class up at Penn State. How'd you do? I degreed
it was an awesome course.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Love it?

Speaker 1 (48:31):
Well, that qualifies you.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
I love meteorology.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
What time is four? Kickoff? Four thirty? Okay? It looks
like four thirty PM, A little bit of light rain
in the thirties, low forties. Okay, So so that won't
be a foreign situation for Washington. It will not be
a foreign situation for Washington. I'm taking Washington just because
Wisconsin offensively struggles to score double digits, like off full

(48:59):
struggle to score digits, and Washington's defense is not good
at all. But I just if I'm gonna choose one
thing in this game to feel confident in despite a
lack of performance, it's probably gonna be Washington's defense over
Wisconsin's offense. So what's the number again? Eleven? Eleven and
a half, eleven and a half points. Yeah, I think
Washington's this game thirty to ten.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
We did have an application come through twenty seven ten,
twenty four to ten, I don't know, somewhere between twenty
four and thirty points to ten.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
We had an application come through.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
Oh tortured fan base. We had an application come through
for somebody who wants to test out my jinxing prowess
with respect two locks of the week. Oh nice, it
comes to us from Aaron Quote. My proposed lock is
a Washington victory and cover over Wisconsin. The motivation for
the application is that my mom, a devoted Badger fan,

(49:52):
deserves to see at least one power for win this year.
I've betrayed my mother when it comes to her Badgers.
I would like to start making amends. Growing up, she
took me to Mini Badger and other sporting events, and
she's the reason I'm a big sports fan. Instead of
attending you dub just down the street from home, I
chose Ohio State Good Lord, which was both a long

(50:16):
drive away and the nemesis of her Michigan based family. Unfortunately,
I also dismissed her concerns about Luke Fickles. Since you're one,
give him time. Look at what he accomplished at Cincinnati.
I kept repeating, well, this application is my olive branch
to say that, as usual, my mom was right all along.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
We're doing this one for you. Aaron, Okay, Look of
the week.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
Washington minus eleven and a half lock. It up, Dan Rubinstein, whoaw,
so you have it up baby aggressively Pacific Northwest with
your week eleven locks Oregon and Washington on the road
is a double test of ties jinks. By the way,
Aaron also submitted her receipt of a twenty five dollars

(51:04):
donation to Locks of Love see the mega official put
her money where her mouth is. Yeah, thank you, eron,
good on you. We'll see if it works. Okay, I'm
doing my part. Seven PM ACC Network Florida State at Clemson.
Clemson is a two point favorite. Yeah uh yeah. So
this game is not what we thought it was going
to be at the start of the year. Not at all.

(51:26):
This looked like this is going to be a big
one for the ACC. Maybe playoff implications as it stands
right now, Mike Norvel very much on the hot seat,
and also something that has sort of phone under the radar.
Clemson is five losses, Dan, they do. They have five
losses and the remaining three games are Florida State at

(51:50):
home and then Louisville and South Carolina, both of which
are on the road. Yeah. I don't want to be
all dooming gloom here. By the way, that Louisville game,
I believe is short week on the road, short week
on the road. That's right on a Friday night. Yeah.
I am not trying to be dooming gloom. I am
not trying to be sensationalist. There is a non zero chance,

(52:12):
actually a legit chance, that Clemson finishes four in eight, Yeah,
which would be madness. Madness given the starting point, like
most returning production in the country, they went on that
run at the end of last year, then they won
a playoff.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
Game, a four and eight season on the heels of
all that. I mean, somebody's got to ask Dabbo questions
about that.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
Oh, they do every week. He just went off, But
someone's got to ask the administration about that, okay, Like,
is that okay? Are we I'm not advocating a firing
or anything. I've seen some of the entries that already
come into our game. People are protecting that, and a
non zero amount of people are projecting that Clemson could open.
I don't necessarily buy that, but would definitely be a

(53:01):
black guy given the starting point has there been. I
don't want to go down like a long Clemson road
here just because they've been disappointing and I don't want to,
you know, beat a dead horse kind of thing. Sure, sure,
has there been a coach to pull a program out
of this after the Heights, Clemson had to fall to
this depth in terms of everybody questioning his ability as

(53:23):
a coach now right, his hires, his scheme, his practices,
whether they're do with you know, like nil and portal stuff,
his stances about the modern game. Like I'm trying to
think of a coach. We've seen coaches decline after winning
national championships, guys like I mean, we've seen coaches get

(53:43):
fired two years after winning a national championship, but like
guys who were like legends at you know, Mac Brown
at Texas, you know, Bobby Bowden at Florida State, that
they just they couldn't pull their program back out of
the muck. And I feel like we are just sort
of entering something pretty ugly. Considering where Clemson has has

(54:05):
been this season. They haven't been a bad program. They've
competed for the AEC, they've won the ACC recently. But
this was supposed to be the special year. It was
it was, and look, you know, I think the point
of comparison is always Saban everybody thinks Saban right away,
But Saban was a black Swan. Yeah, you know, Saban
was the best coach to ever do it in college football.

(54:27):
And I think it is much more common that you've
got a situation like at Clemson, where you've got a
coach who's been there a while, who's been very, very successful, right.
I mean, he can't take that away from dab Alwa's
been great, but it doesn't last forever. None of the
stuff lasts forever, and it clearly has not lasted at Clemson.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
Now.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
It's been made worse by the fact that they lost
Briant westco for the year back injury, which is a
pretty big blow to the offense. An offense, by the way,
that already had some issues. Didn't stop them from scoring
forty five last week, but clearly he was a big
part of the offense, a trusted name out wide. I
don't know where it goes from here for Clemson. I
don't know where it goes here from here for Florida State,

(55:07):
but this is a very interesting matchup that I think
could help dictate the terms moving forward for both of
these schools. Florida State is four and four for their part,
all four of the losses were by one score. Yes,
I actually think Florida State is the better team right now.
I think they're better on offense. I think they're better
on defense. I don't think it's by a wide margin.

(55:28):
I think this will be a good game. I think
there's a reason why there's a two point spread on
this one here. But I've got Florida State winning this
one outright in Death Valley twenty seven to twenty four.
At night, I had it twenty eight to twenty three. Yeah,
I think Farida wait as well Florida State. Yeah, I
just Clemson hasn't been winning these games. Clebni had a
really nice game last.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
Week, again really in a losing effort.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
In a losing effort. They haven't been closing these games.
And so if I think it's going to be reasonably close,
not that Florida State has been a game, you know,
a game closer, either, but at least it seems like
there's a little bit of momentum after beating Wake last week,
beating him down by the way, big week for Thomas Castellanos.
So I'm gonna go Florida State to win by four
or five here. Yeah, and let me, let me just
say this, and then again, we got all these games,

(56:10):
we got to rip through them. Yeah. Yeah. It's a like,
I am not over here saying that they should fire
Dabbo or that he should retire or anything like that.
I'm not saying that, but I am more than anything,
very curious to see how Clemson as a program, as
an administration deals with this situation, because, frankly, we saw

(56:31):
what happened at a Penn State very itchy trigger finger
right to move on from James Francott. It's not exactly
the same situation like they got at Clemson, but it
is another situation where there's a program kind of spinning
its wheels. There's a, I think an open question about
where it goes from here. What's the trajectory right to
use pat craftswords. I'm I don't know what Clemson does

(56:53):
and I don't know what Dabo does, but this has
not been a good year and the starting point was
really high.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
So it's kind of a bummer across the board.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
Great seven pm ESPN Wake Forest at Virginia, Virginia is
a seven point favorite.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
Here are you confident in Virginia covering seven? I guess week.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Long travel week going to and from Berkeley last week,
a nice win there, barely getting by North Carolina, like
Virginia's winning close. What did I called their excavators? Yep,
just like a couple other programs, figuring out ways to
dig out a win. Is Virginia an LRO team for you?

Speaker 2 (57:33):
At some point this year? Though?

Speaker 1 (57:36):
Do you feel like the luck runs out for Virginia
or are they not that kind of team? Are they
just a scrappy team that is comfortable being down in
the mud and the blood and the beer. Buddy, they've
already got to how many wins they've already gotten eight wins?

Speaker 2 (57:49):
Got eight wins?

Speaker 1 (57:50):
Yeah, it doesn't matter if they lose out. Virginia getting
to eight wins is already a huge success. It's going
to be disappointing if they lose out. So yes, I
think they're gonna lose one of these next two games
against Wake at home or at Duke. I think that's
the likeliest outcome that they're gonna split these two. I
think they'll be okay against Wake. I like the Virginia defense,

(58:10):
Like there's nothing that Virginia does terribly where you feel
like they're getting lucky Now, if we say winning is
a skill, Virginia is not distancing themselves from basically anyone.
They're winning a bunch of close games, which is good.
It's better than losing close games obviously. I just don't
like Wake's offense that much. So I think Virginia and
their ability to close out games can win a low

(58:30):
scoring game ugly. So I have Virginia winning this game
twenty to seventeen. So I guess covering Wake Forest covering, right, Yeah, Yeah,
I've got this one in the computer at Virginia minus ten,
and I think I had Virginia minus ten last week
against Cal and I sort of did they lost it,
but I went with it and they did. They won
thirty one to twenty one, so I'm gonna stick with
it again. I've got this one a little higher scoring.

(58:53):
I'm still not crazy sold on the Who's but they're
doing it like they're finding ways to get it done.
Let's go thirty eight. Twenty eight, by the way, a
little bit not the sort of stage of Mississippi State.
Georgia necessarily let down look Ahead Sandwich here as well,
just because of the travel against Cal. I don't think
Cal's all that good right now and having the big
matchup on the road against Duke next week. Just in

(59:14):
terms of the ACC race, it seems like a letdown.
Look ahead spot Okay, interesting, Yeah, seven thirty NBC Navy
at Notre Dame. Notre Dame a healthy favorite, twenty six
and a half points. Dan, Anything you want to say
about this game. I always try and talk myself into
a good Surface Academy team against Notre Dame, and it

(59:38):
very very rarely works out for that Service Academy. Just
because I think Notre Dame had their off week. I
think they had their clunker last week. I think it's
a get right situation. They should be able to score plenty,
they should be able to get off the field on defense.
I see it as a sort of typical game for
Notre Dame against you know, Navy, Army, whoever that after

(01:00:02):
a quarter it's like, oh god, we'd seven to six
and then it opens up. So I have this as
Notre Dame thirty one thirteen. I think Notre Dame wins.
It covers this point spread. Okay, I think you're right.
I think offensively they should be able to do mostly
whatever they want against Navy. It's whatever they want to
work on. I think they're better across the board. It

(01:00:25):
will be an interesting test for their run defense. I
want to see how their run defense looks. And it
wouldn't surprise me if we see a few moments in
this game where Navy's able to make some hay on
the ground.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
That's just what Navy does and they're very good at it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
So I think they will ask some new questions of
the Notre Dame defensive front. I'm curious to see how
well they hold up. But when Notre Dame has the ball,
I just don't see much resistance from the midshipman. So
I think they win this one comfortably by like twenty eight. Yeah.
I the Navy past defense, like I think CJ. Call

(01:00:58):
I think the Navy defense in general. Like you said,
they should be able to do whatever they want.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
I think whatever they want.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
Yeah, I think we're going to see somebody with like
a ridiculous number like Jenarium Price with two eighteen, or
you know, CJ. Carr with three eighty four, something like that.
Let's let's travel back in time for a second, if
we can. Let's go to Friday night, nine pm on ESPN.
This is a big and in the G six, it
is Tulane on the road at Memphis. Memphis is a

(01:01:25):
four and a half point favorite. Dan I was looking
a lot at Tulane ahead of this one. Tulane's a
real interesting case study because basically it's a bad defense
against the run and especially against the pass, and the
offense is fairly one dimensional. It's like whatever Jake retz
Left can do on the ground that is two lane

(01:01:45):
football in twenty twenty five. They did manage to beat
Duke earlier in the year, but they profile, I think
right now, as a much worse team than Memphis. They
just lost a week ago to Utsa and it wasn't
particularly close, so coming into this one, I really like
where Memphis is at. They've also been very quarterback dependent,
though it's a lot on whatever Brendan Lewis can do.

(01:02:08):
He has had a good year both through the air
and on the ground. I think the difference for them
is that he's got a much better supporting cast. Yes,
and I can't credit Memphis and Ryan Silverfield enough for
how they have flipped the switch and changed the philosophy
of this offense to meet what he is good at.
Because if you look at what they did the last

(01:02:29):
couple of years on their seth hen again, it was
not a running quarterback. They didn't have that at all.
You know, this year they have adapted this offense in
a way that suits Brenda Lewis's skill set in a
really meaningful way. He's a good dual threat quarterback in
the system, and they have gotten the most out of that.
I think tu Lane's going to have a really hard
time stop in him. Same, I think they're gonna have

(01:02:50):
a really hard time stopping him, particularly on the ground.
To just in general, this ground attack for Memphis, which
has done a really really good job this year. I
think the Tigers win comfortably and it's like thirty thirty
four to twenty one, something like that. I think I'm
with you too. I think Memphis is in a better place.
I think they do more well. And as as fun

(01:03:11):
as it was to see Utsa play well at home,
I just think away it's just going to be a
more difficult situation. I think Memphis has I think they
seem I mean like UAB game, notwithstanding obviously they seem
locked in in this stretch run. It's a you know,
it's going to be a very fun November in the
American I'm going Memphis here. I think they went by

(01:03:31):
double digits, ten eleven points, and to see their name
on that bracket has to be something of like a
watershed moment for this program. Sure. I mean Memphis has
been a serious player on the G five G six
level for a while. This is a program that is

(01:03:52):
getting investment from FedEx on the nil side, right, This
is a program that I think fashions itself is a
very serious player in college football moving forward. Yeah, and
so just to see their name on that board is
a proof of concept. But now they got to bring
it home. They got to win out, They got to
win the conference if they want to get into the playoff.
I think the American winner stands a pretty good chance,

(01:04:15):
probably the best chance of any to find their way
into that field. But obviously a lot can happen between
now and the end of the season. But yeah, and
Memphis is playing good, complimentary football, right, They're not living
on any one thing for success.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
Whereas you know, the Tulane loss at UTSA wasn't great,
and I just don't think especially the defense for Tulane
is where it needs to be. Let's see some under
the radar games, Dan, I got a bunch here. Let's
get through them quick. Let's start at high noon ACC Network.
We've got s MU, a ten and a half point

(01:04:48):
favorite on the road at Boston College. So I bring
this up because you know, sim, you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
Had a big win a week ago against Miami.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
Yeah, possible letdown game for them now as they travel
up the Chestnut Hill. But also there is this element
of hey, did you hear Bill O'Brien? Is Boston College
melting down? What is going on at Boston College? What
is SMU's headspace going to be ten and a half
points is a lot? I could really see it from

(01:05:16):
both sides, just as I'm sitting here with my psychologist
hat on.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
That could be kind of weird.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
Boston College hasn't been doing anything well this year. They
lose by double digits every week. They lost close to
Cal That was like kind of it. Yep, They've won
their they won their first game against Fort Him and
lost everything else. It is a letdown spot. It's for
sure a letdown spot traveling across the country to Boss
to Chestnut Hill. I don't see it, man, I don't either.

(01:05:48):
I don't see it. I just I think SMU probably
doesn't win by a lot. I think it is like
an ugly game. But I just don't think BC has
that fire that pop. As much as Bill O'Brien wants
to say, like things are great, everything's great, everybody, everybody's oya, Hi,
it's like, oh man, just dude's losing it a little bit. Yeah,
I've got it. At something like the Notre Dame game

(01:06:10):
was twenty five to ten, m something like that. I
let's go twenty one to ten or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
I don't know. Somewhere in that neighborhood is what I'm thinking.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
Nop same three point thirty on Fox, Iowa stayed at TCU.
TCU favored by six and a half. So my crazy
Big Twelve tiebreaker scenario involves TCU winning out BYU beating
Texas Tech but then losing to Cincinnati, and then someone
along the way, maybe Kansas State beating Utah, and if
all of those things happen, that's how TCU gets into

(01:06:45):
the Big Twelve title game. I don't think that's likely,
but you know, I like to gameplan these things. We
have not talked much about TCU, have we We have not.
We both like November, a pretty good amount before where
the year got started. But TCU right now has sort
of been off the radar. They've been a whisper quiet.

(01:07:07):
Six and two statistically a little bit worse than last year,
but still six and two. I don't like them giving
six and a half points in a game like this, really,
in a game like any game. Okay, I think this
is more like TCU min is three. So I'm on
Iowa State here. I think TCU wins. I've got it
at thirty four thirty one Horned Frogs. Yeah, neither of

(01:07:30):
these teams cover, but it's TCU coming off of a bye,
with their particular strength going up against Iowa State's specific
weakness obviously, the injuries in their secondary. Their past defense
has not been good. The red zone offense has not
been good. They can neither generate nor prevent big plays.
I think TCU comfortably wins this game, and I have
them covering. Okay, I have them winning this game by

(01:07:50):
a couple of touchdowns, like, oh, thirty one, thirty four
to twenty. Let's lock it up? Why not for our
TCU friends, lock of the week? Excuse me, Iowa State's
lost four in a row. They just got stomped by
Jeff Simms on the ground. I just what's the what's
the reason for Iowa state belief now? Going to Fort Worth?

(01:08:12):
Very difficult to see from me. Three thirty CBS Sports Network.
Duke minus nine at the Yukon Huskies. What Yeah, Jim Calhoun,
Mike Krzyzewski, who's gonna come out on top? We have
not talked a whole lot about Jim Mora and the
Yukon Huskies, but oh football, Okay, they're gonna finish like

(01:08:33):
eight and four, nine and three, gonna go to a
bowl game. They're not amazing. But I think Yukon is
way better than most people realize. Okay, and we called
that out before the year. Yukon's pretty good. Jim Morri
has done a good job. Also, possible let down spot
for Duke, it's true. Let them look at it right,

(01:08:55):
let them look ahead. Yeah, you beat Clemson, You've got
Virginia right, that's where Duke is on their schedule. So
if the Mississippi State game that we mentioned earlier is
a potential letdown, look ahead spot for the Georgia Bulldogs,
look at this Yukon matchup. That's true.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
Could the Huskies pulling up set here.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
Sorry, I've been thinking this whole time about playing doing
a back and forth between like mid two thousand's, late
nineties Yukon and Duke basketball players. And I don't know
if you want to go first with Hashim Tabet or
Trajany Parkins, Hilton Armstrong Yukon.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
He had the big neck, right, I don't remember he
had a huge It's possible.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
Thomas Hill, not Grant Hill. Thomas Hill, Thomas Hill. Yeah, Duke, okay,
I would love to do an episode Cherokee Parks. Yeah,
I said, Cherokee. Oh come on, yeah, Cherokee.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
I have a watch.

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
You can take your pick of the Oh god, now
I'm forgetting the tall twins for I'm losing my mind.
Oh there's one of them is at least still in
the NBA. Yeah, you can take your plumblely pick yea
brothers twins. I don't remember, okay. I like Duke here.
I do like Duke here. I think they're playing good football.

(01:10:16):
They're the defense has been what's been killing them, yeah,
which is weird because that's Manny Diaz's thing, right, that's
his thing. So I figured the defense would be performing
better but I think they're in a better place. I
think offensively, they've been rolling and running the ball. So
I'm going Duke here. I got Duke by seven. I
don't think they cover. I think it's thirty one, twenty
four something like that. Okay, four o'clock SEC network, the

(01:10:39):
Armstrong long neck, long neck. Absolutely, Hilton Armstrong. Hilton Armstrong,
long neck. Yes, and he's coaching or at some point
recently coached the Santa Cruz Warriors G League team. I
just remember the neck for Hilton Rmshow yeah, all right,
where was oh? Four o'clock SEC network? Auburn at Vandy.
Vandy favored by seven. The TPS report is Andy minus seven.

(01:11:02):
So who do you like? Is the bottom gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
Fall out of Auburn now they fired Hu Freeze.

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
Or is the top gonna grow?

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
Or is the top gonna grow?

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
Is it gonna be an augmentation of sorts?

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
So like Auburn's tendency has been to get into close
games regardless of the opponent.

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
There's like a little bit in Mississippi State there.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
We saw back to back road games earlier in the
year Oklahoma and A and M both were very close.
I kind of think this could end up being another
game like that. Like I think the points spreads right
on the number. My lean is Vandy.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
My pick is I guess going to be Vandy.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
I would not bet this game with actual money with
like a thousand foot pole, because I don't know what
to expect. But I just I just kind of think
it's like an ugly game. I think it's a one
score affair. Those are the types of games that Auburn
finds itself in to an extent, I think those are
the types of games that Vanderbilt's comfortable in, right, So,

(01:11:58):
I Vandy is the better team. Andy's the more organized side.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
For sure.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
Auburn might have some players on the roster with more upside,
but I don't know if they're organized enough to win
like this on the road at Vandy. So I'm gonna
go Vandy here, I know, but I'm not confident about that.
I have Vandy covering and it being low scoring. How
about that? Okay, like twenty to ten Vandy. By the way,
Auburn going interim head coach DJ Diurkin woof yeah yeah,

(01:12:26):
next seven thirty sec Network Florida minus three on the
road at Kentucky. One team lost its coach, the other
talking about maybe getting rid of the coach at the
end of the year.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
I don't know. Gimme, gimme Kentucky plus the points at home.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
I'm going Florida here. I kind of thought Kentucky would
be favored or like, have it even be a closer line,
But I think Florida played with jews last week against Georgia.
They did Okay at that, I'm going Florida here to
win on the road.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
I've got Florida minus one as my number.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
Okay, I have Florida went this by a touchdown.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
I'm gonna go Kentucky bus the points.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
But seventeen ten Gators lean here nine pm on Fox
Nebraska without Dylan Royola on the road at Ucla. Ucla
now favored by three points. The computer didn't know what
to do with this game. So that's that goes out
the window completely. This is all feels, all vibes for
for me anyway, I am inclined to go Ucla here

(01:13:30):
because I don't know what Nebraska is gonna look like
for a full sixty minutes without Dilan Roola. Uh so
you're gonna have an inexperienced quarterback. Now play behind this
line that Dylan Royola was unable to stay up right behind,
and you're traveling to Ucla a weird environment. I like
Ucla here. I think they win this game just when
your team is down and vibes are bad, and then

(01:13:51):
you have to travel to Pasadena. I think it's just
recipe for slop. We saw it last year with Iowa
losing at Ucla. We saw it this year with Penn
State losing at UCLA. Ucla is not especially good. Why
they fired their coach after like an hour and a
half into the season. I'm going to Ucla to win
this game by a touchdown against Nebraska. Yeah, weird, low,
ugly twenty to thirteen, And let's travel back in time

(01:14:14):
one more time bit a PMFS one big matchup in
the Big twelve. Houston's minus one and a half on
the road at UCF. Dan wrong team is favored here,
the Yokos home dog of the week. I like Houston.

(01:14:41):
I've been talking up Houston all year. UCF should be
favored by three.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
Points in this game. Give me the nights at home outright?

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
Why I'm just going based off the TPS report.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
Just the TPS report. You're leaning into the model. I'm
leaning into the model, and the model tells me that
UCF in this spot should be a three point favorite.
Certainly better at home. The way that they lost last
week to Baylor after a bye on the road was ugly,
so better in the bounce house. I get it. Houston

(01:15:17):
coming off of their last couple of games. It's been eventful,
right competing with ASU Houston losing to West Virginia. I'm
gonna go bounce house as well here I think they
I think you SF wins by three or four. There
you have it. Any other games on your radar, Dan
that I did not mention? We covered a lot of

(01:15:38):
ground there. Again, if you're waiting for more info on
BYU Texas Tech or Oregon Iowa, I have good news
for you. We talked about those games for about twenty
twenty five minutes on the Tuesday episode, so go back
and listen to that for more details.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
Towards the end of the.

Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
Episode, we did talk extensively about both. Just if you
could drop that big, stanky, dripping, drooling, driving, maybe honishing

(01:16:16):
high down Eastern Time Holy Cross one and eight on
the road at Murray h. Goodman Stadium against the Lehigh
mountain Hawks.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
Lee High is nine, and oh, Dan Orbstein, who.

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
You got Lehigh big? It's not quite a look ahead
spot yet because the Lapayete game isn't until the twenty
second correct. That game looks like it's going to decide
the conference. Of course, no championship game. I don't believe
now in the pat League. So I really do hope
that game has the stakes. We hope it does. So
I'm gonna go Lee High big here, yeah, Lee High one?

(01:16:49):
I believe forty one zip last week over Georgetown, mm hmm.
It was a huge showing by them. By the way, Lehigh,
by virtue of that win, is now up to number four.
I've got four fingers up here, number four in the
FCS hole. Who's ahead of them? How many Dakotas? It
is North Dakota State, it is Montana, and it is

(01:17:10):
Montana State ahead. Oh nice, the Montana's with more of
a top presence. I guess South Dakota State has lost
to North Dakota State in the marker game. I'm telling
you right now, if Lehigh is playing there, I mean,
provided things keep going as well as they are, Lehigh
is gonna get probably a first round by in the
SCS Title tournament, and in all likelihood they're going to

(01:17:32):
have a home game or two or three. I will
go The Lafayette game is an Easton So that's a
body clock game, right, that's a big travel situation. Yeah,
it's like a fifteen minute bus ride to get over
to Easton from Lehigh and a memory service both like
the Penn State Oregon game. Both Big Noon and Game
Day are doing Lehigh Lafayette twelve thirty, Colgate four and

(01:17:54):
five on the year. Speaking of which, the Yeties of
Lafayette six and.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
Three hosting this one at Fisher Stadium. Who you got?

Speaker 1 (01:18:03):
Is it even a question?

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
Got to go?

Speaker 1 (01:18:05):
Yet here? We're going Yetties, Okay, one o'clock buck Nell
versus Fordham. It's the Nellies, It's the Hammies. Neither team
is particularly good. Fordham is worse. Give me the Nellies
on the road. Yeah, I'm going Nellies as well. Yeah,
I Buck now can get it done. Sure, Fordham's been
a nightmare. And last, but certainly not least, Richmond, the

(01:18:28):
newcomer in the pat League, has been scraping, has been
clawing their way to five and four this year in
conference overall, they are squaring off against Georgetown, also five
and four. Dan, I believe, and I don't have the
records in front of me here, I believe this would
be Richmond's first trip to multi sport field, at least

(01:18:50):
as a member of the Patriot League. Yeah, so I'm
going Richmond here. Georgetown has scored eighty nine points and
given up one hundred and twenty four points in conference,
So the offense just not there. Richmond actually behind as well.
They've scored ten fewer than they've allowed, but it's not
as quite a discrepancy. I'm going Spiders here.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
I'm going you gotta go Georgetown.

Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
By the way, do you see so Bill Connelly ranks
like all seven hundred D one or not D one
but FBS, FCS D two, D three naia, and he
sets lines between divisions and like, I think Boston College
would be a ten point underdog to Harvard at this
point within Boston, Boston College is the team, haven't. And

(01:19:37):
there was something like Texas Tech against somebody would be
favored by Oh god, it was like Texas Tech versus
I'm going to get this wrong. It wasn't the Citadel.
We mentioned the old myth citadel line before, but it
was like Texas Tech Tarleton State would be closer than
you'd think because Tarleton's pretty good this year. It was
pretty good. Yeah, Tarlton their top ten, top fifteen. Yeah,
they're down to six they lost last week. But by

(01:20:00):
the way, your top ten looks like North Dakota State, Montana,
Montana State, Lehigh, Tennessee Tech, Tarleton, then Monmouth, South Dakota
State havevid Yeah, and Villanova. Texas Tech would be a
ninety nine point favorite against East Texas. Baptist Yale would
be a point favorite against Stanford.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:20:22):
And he said, this is Bill Connolly. The race for
number seven hundred and sixty six is coming down to
the wire end quote.

Speaker 2 (01:20:29):
Oh my gosh, it's great. I absolutely love it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:33):
It looks like it's between Oberlin and the main maritime academy,
with New England College looking to separate itself just a
little bit. But yeah, North Dakota State overall number forty
eight in the country, Harvard sixty nine, Tarlton State eighty five,
and then yeah, Lehigh's at one oh seven. So Harvard
ahead of Lehigh. Yeah, So I don't know, man, it's
coming down to it. Can't wait if you got stuff

(01:20:54):
going on this weekend. This is the last soccer weekend
for is it? Oh yeah, both boys have their final
game of the fall season. It picks up in the spring.
So did you blow it off last weekend? No, I
went to soccer. It was only one game. I had
a bye week. It was a tough battle. The little
guys team won, physical, tough, a lot of words on

(01:21:16):
the sideline. Really, it's great. Oh yeah, what are you
telling him about, like slide tackling, physical play out there?
Are you teaching him to flop yet or is it
too No? No, no. The only thing I tell my
kids with soccer is don't be mean to kids, Like
don't throw elbows, don't throw forearms, don't rip people down

(01:21:37):
by their jersey or anything like that. But don't get
pushed around, right, play a little mean. Don't be a
mean kid on the soccer because you were a noted quasi.

Speaker 2 (01:21:47):
Dirty pick up basketball player from what you've told.

Speaker 1 (01:21:50):
But that's I developed into that, right. This wasn't like
something I started from day one as a peewee athlete.
I shied away from contact. Tie really did and then
I learned that it's much more fun to mix it
up a little bit more when you're playing extremely low
level rec league. But no, I just tell them play

(01:22:11):
a little meme. And I think that the message has
gotten through. I think your window is late. I would
I would make a later date night. Okayick eleven, I
think I think you want to get them in now,
because look down the stretch in November. Obviously we got
holidays and stuff coming up, but we don't know how
the season is going to break the last like three

(01:22:33):
or four weeks of this. So I would I would
arrange the date nights now, like you know, if you
can see cats. So I am are you?

Speaker 2 (01:22:40):
Are you doing it?

Speaker 1 (01:22:41):
Oh? I'm going out Friday night for Jody's birthday. You
don't count? Yes, I do. You're gonna be with there's
football on there's football on Friday. I'm still going out.

Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
Okay, Well I'm not talking about Friday. I'm talking about that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:54):
I know. I'm just saying I'm trying to get the
romance in time, trying to make it all happen. All right,
that's your window. Go go see Kats late your your quad.
I won't play the sound today because we're ready over
time here. But you got a really good early quad situation,
like at high noon. I don't know what the YouTube
TV ESPN situation is gonna be this week. I'll we

(01:23:14):
got to deal with that again, hopefully not, but stay
tuned to see if the big wigs can come to
some sort of agreement. It was super fun to buy
a day pass for Sling and then put it on
the second TV and have Sling tell me, ah, only
want screen. We watched one screen. Yeah, great, great stuff.
We're gonna have to go back to the pirate feeds. Yeah,

(01:23:37):
twelve o'clock, you've got BYU Texas Tech, Indiana, Penn State, Georgia,
Mississippi State, and then just for kicks, SMU Boston College,
all of which could be interesting in some way, shape
or form. And then we got some representation for I
guess all four of the Power four conferences. Yep, if
you're interested, so look, go go and check out our

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Speaker 2 (01:24:00):
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Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
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That's the pick them game where you pick twelve games
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I was wondering if you would have interest in a

(01:24:25):
different kind of secret verbal this week. Okay, I'm listening.
We may have tried something like this before, but it's
been a long time. Okay. Normally, what we do is
we tell people go out, go to the social media
platform of your choosing, usually Twitter x whatever we call
it these days, the everything app, everything app thank you,
and and just you know, we'll give you a word.

(01:24:47):
We want you to tweet something about this to a person.
We got Tim brand out pretty good. He had no idea,
which I expected.

Speaker 2 (01:24:53):
That was brilliant. Thank you. Everybody did a great job.

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
Yeah. We have a lot of media people who listen
to this show. Some are on pregame shows, some producers, yeah,
behind the scenes for pregame shows. We can make a
case that this is among the most listened to college
football shows among media people in the media shows. Yeah,
which gives us an opportunity and generous Wisconsin fans apparently. Yeah,

(01:25:20):
this is also true. Yeah, we have a real opportunity
here to put a code word out. I like this,
a secret code word that won't mean anything to people
who don't listen to.

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
Most people don't. Yeah, a lot of people do.

Speaker 1 (01:25:37):
But for our verballerhood, for the people who know and
love this show and have made it well over an
hour and twenty five minutes into the content. What is
a word that somebody on air, either a play by
play guy, an analyst, somebody on a pregame show, a
halftime show, you name it, somebody on air word that

(01:26:01):
they could say that doesn't really fit but doesn't not
fit that would give it away. That would be a
signal to the verballer hood that they listen, that they
love the content, and more importantly, that they're big enough
dorks to make this steep into a show. What is
that code word dan that they could mention on air
vase defriends? No, okay it is? That would be one,

(01:26:27):
but we'll see that would alert people liked he just
what did RG three just reference? RG three would do
that without us prompting it? That's FYI.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
But give me let's go option a little more.

Speaker 1 (01:26:41):
Yes, Bland, I've been let's go broccoli, broccoli, broccoli. If
you are hosting a show, if you are calling a game,
if you are on air, in some way, tip your
cap to the soliverbal by using the word broccoli. The
password is broccoli. How would you use broccoli? I would

(01:27:07):
use broccoli in referencing somebody being healthy a football. Look
at that offensive line, Look like they've been eating their broccoli.

Speaker 2 (01:27:12):
Yeah okay, okay yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
Or like they show a tailgating scene and they're saying,
not a piece of broccoli in sight while there's a
bunch of like brats on a grill. Or you could
go the other way and say Auburn hates comfortable wins like.

Speaker 2 (01:27:27):
They hate broccoli.

Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
Yeah great. So there are a bunch of different ways
you could spin this media. People who are kill in
the air, people people with a bowl of broccoli, cheese soup.
I don't know that's a stretch.

Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
I mean you can get away with it. Say whatever
you want.

Speaker 1 (01:27:42):
People don't really listen that closely. Let's just say something
totally aghast. Yeah, people don't really listen that closely. Okay,
I agree. Broccoli is the code word. You know who
you are if you made it this far into the episode.
It is now on you to say broccoli somewhere on air.
If you save Oz Dafferns, We're gonna give you full credit.

(01:28:03):
You get full cred, you have bonus points, save on
bonus points. Yeah. Absolutely, But broccoli is the word yeah
forballer hood. Let us know if you hear it. We
can only patrol so many shows at once. Yes, correct.

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
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card Dan and of course soliverbal dot com. Slash Carousel
it's the Coach of Carousel game that we built and
you can play that one for free. Broccoli is the
name of the game. It is screw it Saturday. For
that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself,
Tie hilloband thanks for bearing with us here. Enjoy your
week eleven and give us a quality five to five verbal.
Three we'll talk to you all Saturday Night's Day song Peace,

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