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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to the solid verbal.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
For me, I'm a man, I'm forty. I've heard so
many players say, well I want to be happy. You
want to be happy for a day?

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Whoa?

Speaker 2 (00:14):
And down and tie Dan Rubinstein On Thursday. If you recall,
we dubbed college football Week four as sock them in
the mouth Saturday. And the reason for that was we
was you, We was We were all expecting that some

(00:37):
of the more prominent teams might face a different kind
of test, get punched in the mouth in a different
sort of way. We didn't really get upsets in Week four,
but we did sort of get that, did we not?
We did see some different tests. I don't think that
we were fully equipped and ready for. But now on
the flip side of it, as we speak to the

(00:58):
verbawler hood here at midnight Eastern time, live on the
YouTube channel into the millions upon millions listening on demand
at home, I think we got a little bit of
sock them in the mouse Saturday?

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Did we not? I think so? I mean, how is
Utah going to respond when it's Will Hammond time? And
the answer is not great? The answer was Utah struggled
with Will Hammond. It was a good game until Big
Bill came in. Big Bill Hammond came in and was
succeeding downfield, So that kind of counts. Obviously, there's a
ton of games there are unexpected results, not huge upsets

(01:31):
at the top, mainly because Clemson is unranked at the moment,
so we consider that to be a moderate upset. I
guess is how we could phrase that. But no, I
think we got a little bit like I think Michigan
State went up early on USC and then USC just
bounced back. That game is happening as we speak, because
it is the middle of the night as we are
streaming this live and recording this. But no, I think

(01:54):
in various capacities like Florida's defense once again came to play.
Sure we can question Florida's ability to get up and
make plays on defense and try to do its part
to win football games against quality teams, that's not the problem.
So there is something sock a me that a word
that's close to another word that I don't love about

(02:17):
Florida's defense that you know that was a game against
Miami because of the defense. So yeah, we can look
across this great land in this great sport and say like,
how did a specific element or beginning or first half
or first three quarters of a game make a team respond?
And I think that's that's interesting.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Well, look on today's episode, we're going to go through
all the big games and storylines like we usually do
on the live stream. Yeah, we're also going to have
the usual stuff like reverbs. I cut the reverbs earlier,
got a great batch here. We're going to go through
your doodl alerts as well. But tonight we're going to
do something a little bit different, and that is back
half of the show. We're going to take some live questions.

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We figure the people who are up lift and fully
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to go to sleep. If you're watching us now, this
is for you. Get those questions in now. We'll pick
out a few of our favorites here towards the back
half of the episode and answer that.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Do we have somebody collecting curating or I'm on the
fly you're curating?

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah, I'll try to do. I got like gate screens
going here, I got buttons, I got sounds. I gotta
deal with you and the games and people yelling at
me because I predicted Illinois, or because I predicted a
potential loss for BYU, all these things. Yes, I was wrong. Again,
that's the way this works. But we are happy to
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hit subscribes that you don't miss any of our episodes
moving forward, Dan, let me start here, please, And I
asked the same of the people who are watching live
or for the people who are listening on demand. I
want to hear from everybody, Dan Rubinstein, on which game,
which team impressed them the most in Week four? If

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this was truly a week of tests or new situations
for us to evaluate, which team, in your mind faced
a new test and faced it down admirably. Where does
your mind go first?

Speaker 1 (04:21):
North Texas scored three points against Army last year, right,
did they win it?

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Or leading this off with the mean green of North Texas?

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Ty, I'm keeping you on your toes, brother, Okay, there's
no reason, Okay, where does my mind go first? In
terms of how somebody responded or how somebody jumped up
and jumped out and made noise something like that, that's
what you're asking me. Yes, yeah, I kind of think
Texas tech me too.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
I'm glad you said Texas Tech. I feel the same.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Okay. So my general thought going into the season about
Texas Tech was They're going to be good. I'm not
sure how good. I'm not sure how much of my
emotion I'm willing to invest in a team that is
actively investing in their team in a way that is
new for them, and there's so much new to go
along with some a lot proven as well. Going to
Utah I think is difficult for basically everybody. Utah has

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been running the ball really well, has been playing good defense,
and there was something about Texas Tech in the mistakes
they were making, obviously in the way that Utah wasn't
able to move the ball all that consistently on offense,
and then dealing with a quarterback injury and in effectiveness
from the passing game, and then to finish after three tight,

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physical quarters the way that they did downfield fearlessly with
a second year quarterback coming in cold again in rice Ecles.
There was something about Texas Tech's performance in a really
frenzied environment with I think what big nowon was in
Salt Lake that they answered the bell in a very big,

(06:02):
impressive way. To me, and so that specific win coupled
with I think what TCU was able to do today, Yeah,
makes and they don't play each other, I don't believe
during the regular season, and then how ASU finished against
Baylor in an absolutely losable spot. There was a lot
not fully answered. But I love the data we got

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from the Big twelve today.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah, I agree on the Texas Tech front, I mean,
why don't we start there since this was one of
the games. There were three games in Week four between
ranked teams, and this was one of them. We previewed
this sort of an advance on Tuesday, did a little
bit of a deeper dive. But Tech ended up winning
this one thirty four to ten. But it was a
thirteen to ten game with about ten minutes left, and

(06:47):
it was at that point that Texas Tech ripped off
twenty one on answer. They ended up winning this one.
Going away to your point, there were two elements of
the way that Texas Tech won this game that really
impressed me. The first, obviously was Will Hammond. Okay, Will
Hammon is the backup quarterback. He comes in after Baron

(07:07):
Morton bunks his head on the field. He is absolute money.
I think he started seven for seven. Gush Johnson at
one point on the broadcast called him Johnny Unitis, which
maybe not want to go that far, but I don't
think it's wrong to draw a loose comparison to Will Howard.
Right with the way that they used him in this

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football game. They put him on the run a little bit.
He obviously was very, very accurate. We've seen elements of that.
I saw that full well in the National Championship game.
What Will Howard the best of Will Howard could do.
So Will Hammond stepping in, as you said on the road,
Rice ecles big spot game on the line, the way
that he stepped up in that moment. If you're a

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tech fan, you're thrilled because quarterback depth right now around
college football is hard to come by. So whether it's Morton,
whether it's Hammond, moving forward, by the way, are we
gonna go Bill Hammon? Are we going to do the
world of Bill conversion?

Speaker 1 (08:03):
I mean there's something to play with with the word
ham in there as well.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
We'll workshop that on the slide. But yeah, regardless, him
stepping in and doing what he did I thought was
damn impressive. The second thing, and we're not used to
talking about this at all with Texas Tech. But let's
credit the defensive line, yeah, which played really well, definitely
held up its end of the bargain against a Utah
offensive line that I think many of us had pegged

(08:28):
is one of the better units in the country.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
No double digit runs for the Utah, the number one,
I believe, most efficient rushing attack in America heading into
this game. Obviously, you know opponents are not the highest
of quality heading into the Texas Tech game. But Utah
was doing, for the most part, really really terrific things
on the ground, and Texas Tech absolutely upfront, especially the

(08:53):
inside of that defensive line, just making a ton of plays.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Made an absolute ton of plays, especially upfront. But I
would say for the major already this game, it kind
of was a defensive battle, and I was trying to
think back, like, when was the last time we can
honestly say that Texas Tech won a defensive battle. It's
been a minute. I can't ever remember, maybe in the
history of us doing this show, dating back in two
thousand and eight, having a conversation like that about Texas Tech,

(09:19):
that's just not been their votes.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
But they have, they've had good defensive players, they've had
star power on defense, but as a collective unit. Now
it's been a minute, We've.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Never really looked to Texas Tech as this team that's
gonna win a defensive struggle, and they found themselves in
one against generally a pretty good defensive team in Utah,
and they were the ones that emerged victorious. So I
credit them a lot. Who knows if it's the coaching
or the investment or the depth that they've built up,
whatever it is, those guys I thought really came to
play and they finished strong. So from that aspect, yeah,

(09:51):
I was really impressed with what I saw out of
Texas Tech. I was not impressed by the way with
Devin dan Pierre and the Utah offense. There's like a
weird thing that goes on with the Utah tall offense
and especially the quarterback position, where every new Utah quarterback
over time becomes every old Utah quarterback that we're accustomed
to seeing.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
What did we used to say Rutgers just has like
an ongoing rotation of Gary Nova's Was that our.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Old It's just the generic Utah quarterback who sort of
has the attributes and if you don't have them at
the start of the year you will by the end,
Devin dan Pierre.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
He was a tall version, a short version, like a
thick version, a lean version. Somehow they all have the
same strengths and weaknesses. Yeah, it's incredible.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
So, I mean he had a couple of big plays,
but mostly as a thrower, kind of inaccurate. I thought
looked overmatched in this game. And again I just came away,
damn and pressed with Texas Tech. So thirty four to
ten was your final score in that one.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
I came away with the fourth quarter of Texas Tech offense.
The Baron Morton version, and I hope he heals up
was not crazy inspiring.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
No, I would agree with that absolutely. Why don't we
stay in the big twelve since you brought those up?
And I also tend to agree. It was the one
hundred and fourth and final meeting for the Iron Skillet
between TCU and SMU. TCU one by eleven, thirty five
to twenty four. Tough beat for me who bet the
over and came up a couple points short, but whatever,

(11:18):
good on TCU for the win. I felt like there
was also more defense in this game than I expected.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
Yeah, which I maybe we both agreed. I know This
is my line of thinking going into this game that
I just thought tc we thought there would be points.
I thought tc would be more likely to get stops,
and they were able to obviously turn over Kevin Jennings
in a crucial way. And you know the difference was
they had a fully unguardable receiver for Joshuver to throw too.

(11:44):
So really nice win for TCU. This is done. The
Skillet's done. You said the final meeting for now.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Yeah, that's what they tell me. It's too hundred and
fourth and final meeting. But yeah, my takeaway is that
the TCU defense definitely looked better than last year, which
again isn't saying much, but just as one I think
important example. Last year they barely forced any three announce
they were ninety fifth national. Right in this one, they

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held a very good SMU offense to four of thirteen
on third downs. If we get this version of TCU.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
There's something there.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah, it's a tough schedule, Dan, it is, but everybody
in the Big twelve has a flaw. Yeah this versions
you Yeah, who among us? This version of TCU was
just a marginally better defense, and with Josh Hoover and
your guy Eric McAllister, who went for two hundred and

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fifty yards and three touchdowns. Receiving that combination is something
worth sitting up in your chair and thinking a little
bit more about, because this was a good performance by them.
So kudos to Sunny Dykes and Josh Hoover and of
course your guy Eric and Callister.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeah, definitely, Yeah. It's now we're sort of gathering intel
on what teams are bringing into the meat of their
conference schedule, and TCU does have a very meaty schedule.
They're going to be very entertaining.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
I could not agree more. And then, of course, the
one that just concluded here at the end of the
night was the Arizona State twenty seven Baylor twenty four game.
This was also a defensive struggle for a good chunk
of the game, was it not?

Speaker 1 (13:27):
It was?

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yeah, the hell's going on? This is the Big twelve, right,
mm hmm. This is a defensive struggle for a good
chunk of the game. The second half we started to
see the offenses get more of a pulse. The difference though,
was Baylor turned the ball over three times.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Arizona State and still right there by the way, still
right there, ASC won the turnover Battle Love three and
even still Baylor was right there with opportunities near the end,
either to get off the field or to punch something in,
and Asu was able to close it out impressively. And
sam Levitt didn't have the best game through the air,

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but made plays with his feet, and you know, Asu
found a way super entertaining game.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
This was a better sam Levit game. It was a
better sam Levick game. We haven't seen that much good
out of sam Levitt, sam Levitt, excuse me so far
this season. This is a much better sam Levit game. Yeah,
and it helps to go up against Baylor defense that
frankly is still struggling and still looking for some answers.

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It is not reliable. It hasn't been reliable in over
a year.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Which just means Baylor's offense has to be that. You know,
the margin for air is that.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Much, such a slim margin, and Sawyer Robertson was fine
Bryce and Washington was fine out of the backfield.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
But yeah, Asu just.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Kind of warmed down man, and it does put a
lot more pressure on that offense to deliver, and they
weren't able to get more than twenty four points. So
I think impressed across the board between you and I,
with Texas Tech, with Arizona State, uh, and of course
with whom I forgetting here from the Big twelve TCU.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Yeah, the Colorado's playing right now. Iowa State, I think
was off this week. I don't remember seeing an Iowa
State's course. Maybe I just completely miss They're off.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yeah, they're off.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Yeah, we've eliminated Kansas State from the contending tier right now.
It's still a long season. Teams can figure things out.
It doesn't seem like they're going to be one of
those teams that figures it out. But yeah, I'm sure
I'm leaving off people who are going to threaten, but
it's it should be fascinating.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Also impressed with Indiana.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Oh my god, let's all take a knee tie. Guess
who just got burded?

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Holy crap, what happened? Sixty three to ten?

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Good? Hell?

Speaker 1 (15:54):
So I tried, like I told you offline, I said,
you know, I tried to sit down with you man
to man and calmly explain how this is going to go.
I obviously didn't say it was gonna be a fifty
three points. You didn't have to spread being fifty three points.
I didn't have that, but I think Illinois is pretty good.

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But then you see a nine next to their name.
He's just like, ah, it's going to take a lot
to convince me of that. And you're quick to point out,
I mean everybody's quick to point out, like maybe here's
what Indiana lost, and losing their quarterback and a couple
key pieces on either side of the ball. But I
don't know, if they feel pretty good about you, they're

(16:36):
going to destroy your innards.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
I mean, this is what I like about Kurt Signetti. Yeah,
and I get that he's probably not for everybody. And
I'm not even to hang around with Kurt Signetti all
that much. It doesn't seem like a particularly nice guy. Yeah,
but he will disembowel you if given the opportunity. I

(17:00):
thought for a hot minute he was going to try
for eighty points in that game.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Sure.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
I love the fact that he's got that killer instinct
because he understands the situation that he stepped into. And
the truth of the matter is that Indiana last year
made the playoff, but they needed to prove their worth
to get into that playoff. Now, there's still probably an
argument in some sec circles as to whether or not
they belong, but that's irrelevant.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Who cares, that's old news.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah, Kurtzignetti knew that he had to go out there
and blast teams to prove that this wasn't pixie dust
and that this wasn't just luck of the draw, that
Indiana would have a better season than we were accustomed
to seeing. And he's doing it again now by beating
Illinois in a manner that they did sixty three to ten.

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He is again making a statement. He is again telling
people he's putting the big ten on notice, putting the
playoff committee on notice, and letting everybody know we are serious.
They could be better this year. For all we know.
It's so hard to gauge because we have seen now
two years in a row with Indiana where it's just
this revolving door of new talent coming in. But I

(18:10):
think Fernando Mendoz is better than Curtis Rourke.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
Well, he's definitely better than Curtis rock On an acl
a feel like a broken thumb whatever he HAPs for
last year.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Yeah, that is absolutely true. But I think there is
enough returning and they do have stars at all three
levels of the defense. They're maybe still trying to fill
in the gaps otherwise, But again it's he understands the assignment,
and the assignment is Indiana is not a blue blood team.
Indiana is always going to have a higher burden of

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proof to be taken seriously, and that's why he's gonna
go out there and try to destroy you if at
all possible.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Yeah, I remember, I think I woke up the Illinois
fans that were living under whichever pebbles and rocks after
I said, you know, implied that their wins last year
weren't over incredible teams. They're like a returning production. Aha.
The South Carolina Bowl when ha ha, you elite guys,

(19:08):
you just got what did t I say? Disemboweled?

Speaker 2 (19:10):
They got annihilated, they got I like Illinois Like, I
still like Illinois, buddy.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
They have asked c next week. By the way, they
might be un ranked in eight days. I don't know, man, Yeah,
we'll see.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
But this this was if we're talking of week four
in terms of who impressed us m H geez man,
sixty three points was was getting close to that second
mark that we liked. It didn't take a long time.
It took like two and a half quarters.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
Yeah, between the block punts and the big plays both
through the air and on the ground, the defense is
getting the hell off the field quickly, like they were
just very precise. I looked it up and I am
thrilled that. I mean, Indiana does too. But Oregon has
a bye week before they host Indiana, so that could
be a potentially monstrous matchup. Indiana has both Oregon and
Penn State on the road. It's a tough schedule obviously

(20:03):
compared to last season for the Hoosiers, but I don't know,
it's tough for everybody else too. It seems.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Let's stay in the Big ten while we're here, and
let's talk about this Michigan Nebraska game. Okay, what stood
out to you the most in Michigan's thirty to twenty
seven win on the road in Lincoln.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
A lot of slop on both sides. What stood out
to me the most is probably that Michigan seemed to
have a more coherent vision knowing they weren't going to
get a ton through the air from Bryce Underwood even
though they took shots. And there's obviously an internal knowledge
that you're not going to be able to lean on

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receivers and tight ends at this juncture with Bryce Underwood
that your success is going to come on the ground
and defense, and they're just like, this is who we are.
We're not going to play conservatively, but we're going to
lean into who we are, whereas Nebraska seems a lot
more disjointed. The offense seems like, hey, man, if Dylan

(21:02):
Royola can figure out his feet and square up to
make an interesting throw, there's something there, because they can
run the ball some. But I just at the line
of scrimmage, what stood out to me was just Michigan
was so much better than Nebraska. And we're in how
many years in are we of the Matt Rule era,

(21:23):
and there's just like the offensive line got overwhelmed, the
defensive line got overwhelmed by Michigan on the ground, and
even the score was closer than it actually was, especially
since they got a hail Nebraska got a hail Mary
at the end of the first half. But there's just
something so a rhythmic about Nebraska's offense against a good team,

(21:44):
And that's sort of me putting it nicely. I watched
this game and I was like, man, I feel like
I want to send Nebraska fans snacks like I felt
bad that Nebraska fans are losing close. It seems like
it's winnable, but the manner in which they lost, there's
just a lot of sloppiness and disjointed this from drive
to drive. I just it was a lot of just sympathy,

(22:04):
I think is what stood out to me well. And
I was super impressed by Michigan on the ground and
just the big bodies, you know.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
I mean, we don't compare our notes before we do this.
You do your thing, I do mine, And this is
the first that we're talking out through. And I jotted
down the same thing that it was a three point
game that honestly felt like it wasn't a three point game. Yeah,
and there might be some Nebraska people out there who
disagree with it, but I just felt like the vibe
I was saying.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
People say that that Dylan Royola was pretty good. I
was like, guys, watch other quarterbacks, watch other good quarterbacks.
I just felt like fine.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
I just felt like watching this game that Michigan was
far and away the better team. And maybe it was
because they had more of a sense of self. They
had that yeah, they had that vision for what they
wanted to be. The truth is that Michigan had early opportunities,
but their receivers let them down through the air. You know.
They had one drop pass or the beauty throw from

(23:01):
Bryce Underwood to I think it was Channing Goodwin in
the corner of the end zone, which is there, and
he just he couldn't bring it in. And there was
another one where it was wide receiver pass where they
had a guy wide.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Open, correct and he was under throw.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
And he shorted it.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
So like you can see the potential as a thrower
from Bryce Underwood, but he's not a finished product by
any means. I think he threw for like one oh five,
had a fumble, right.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yeah, he had. They had like a misque eor. Two
guys were going deep in the same exact area down
the sideline and it was It's very much a work
in progress.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
It's a work in progress. He's very green. You can
clearly see the tools. He's going to be good. We
can acknowledge that much. I don't think this is a
great offense at Michigan, but I think they've got the
personnel to be good at doing what they did today.
If they can play this style football, against you, there's
a pretty good chance that they're gonna win or they're
going to be within the number. Right, the game plan

(23:54):
here was to try and bully Nebraska, which is what
they did. On both sides of the ball. They were
able to get some really big runs. Justice Haynes another
like huge game. Michigan ended up running for almost three
hundred yards. They averaged close to nine per carry, but.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
They weren't getting touched on some of those lots.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
No, and this goes back to one of the things
we talked about on the preview where we talked about
Nebraska yards allowed before contact.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
Right.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
I was quick to bring that up with about other teams,
and it didn't really apply in the way that Indiana.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Right, you're Indiana, You're like, okay, hear me out, Indiana
is gonna struggle in a very specific note, we're not.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
We're not, We're not going there. But in this one,
you were right to bring it up because it did
come back to bite Nebraska. Matt Rule even brought it
up when he talked to our friend Jenny Dell that
they couldn't stop the chunk plays on the ground. It
was killing him. And then on the flip side, One
of the things that I think we could really hang
our hat on with respect to Michigan coming into the

(24:51):
season was we knew they were going to be good upfront,
or at least in the front seven. Right, like lost
a lot, but still enough back that we felt like
they would be pretty formidable. They owned Nebraska's front, yeah,
seven sacks. They held Nebraska to two of thirteen on
third downs. It's really tough to mount the charge against
a team that can bully you like that. It just

(25:13):
is despiriting, to say the least. So I give Michigan
a lot of credit for the way they went in
there and won. This was a game that I thought
there was a ton of pressure on Nebraska, and I
don't know. If I don't know, I need to go
back and rewatch this one, I think to fully develop
my feelings. Maybe we can talk about that on Tuesday,
But for now, I come a way feeling the same

(25:33):
as you like. This wasn't as close as the final
score indicates. Nebraska did get one on a hail Mary,
and it felt to me for the overwhelming majority of
this game like Michigan was the dominant side.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
Michigan also almost gave it away with a dumb taunting penalty,
a sideline taunting penalty. Yeah, and also like if you
just look forward, Michigan has like one and a half
all the defenses left on their schedule. Like you got
to give a lot of people the benefit of the
doubt that it's more than one and a half. And
that's Ohio State and USC in my eyes right now,

(26:09):
and so they might be able to get away with
this for a while, which is kind of crazy.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Oklahoma twenty four Auburn seventeen Dan This was sort of
the headliner of the week. There were a couple headliners.
I guess it depends who you're into and where you live.
But for all intents and purposes, I thought Oklahoma Auburn
was the one that had the most star power. And
this game had a little bit of everything too. You
had some curious calls, you had some big plays, you

(26:40):
had a safety at the end, like you name it.
This game had a little bit of everything. There was
a play very early on and this is the moment
when I said to my wife, who did not care
about this game whatsoever, but I just had it. I
had to speak it. I said, this is how I
know that oklahol Is winning this game because there was

(27:02):
a replay review that overturned an Auburn scoop and score
big break for Oklahoma. There was also a touchdown pass
to Isaiah Setana that may have been illegal per ESPN rules.
Analyst Matt Austin. One of those deals where the receiver

(27:23):
looks like he's running out of bounds getting subbed off
stops before he gets there, everybody forgets about him. Before
you know what, he's running free for a touchdown. That
was the twenty four yard pass that ended up making
it ten to three in the early part of this
game from Johnny.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
To be fair to that analysis, everything may or may
not be something when Matt Austin weighs in during.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Matt Matt Austin, Yeah, always defense sitter, but alas look,
it worked out for Oklahoma. They end up winning a
big one for them to get to four and oh.
They'll be five and oh after next week. Going into
the rivalry with Texas in week six, I think the

(28:03):
defense looks incredible. They were in the backfield all night.
They set a school record with ten sacks in this kiss.
They had seven sacks in the first half.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
The end of the game out of safety right with
a sack that was the tenth one Yeah safety say
yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
So like I'm not sure about the offense. I think
there's probably an offense question outside of job Matier. Like
they didn't run all they still can't run. But Mattier
is great. Provided they're able to keep putting him in
a situation to do what he does, they're going to
be fine. But right now, this is for as much
I think of the headlines will be dominated by John Matier,

(28:40):
this is still right now to me, a team that's
dominated about a really good defense.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
And as much as we think it's a good defense,
because Auburn might just have a garbage offensive line tendency,
I don't think it's a horrible offensive line. I think
this is gonna be a two things true. At the
same time, where Jack Snarld was holding onto the ball
way too long at time, we're just like, make a decision, dude,
throw it away, scramble, do something. Because he when he

(29:07):
did have opportunities to just pull the trigger quickly, right
he hit Cam Coleman down the sideline out of his
own end zone. They're like, okay, he saw one on one,
he hit one on one and it was just there
was that there was an extra second, an extra second
and a half, an extra two seconds. We were just like,
do something.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Listen and let me pause you right there.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Well, I was just gonna say, are Mason Thomas coming
into the second halms? Did do something? Did do something?

Speaker 2 (29:32):
What I was gonna say about Jackson Arnold. I had
been rooting for Jackson Arnold since he first came to
college for whatever reason. And everybody who listens to this
is probably the same way I know you are.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
It kind of looks like you with a mustache. I
get it.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Continue you find a recruit that, for one reason or another,
you're just really interested in seeing how they progress the
next level. And for me, that quarterback was Jackson Arnold.
And so when he came up and when he got
a couple early reps with Oklahoma and we had Oklahoma
people riding in and telling us, seems like he sees
the game, he processes it quickly, he can make the throws.

(30:09):
He's still green, but it seems like he might be
the guy. Yeah, last year it didn't work out. He
didn't end up being the guy. Ma Tea is much
more the guy. But now Jackson Arnold gets his fresh
start at Auburn. As he said at the at the
kind of start of the season, Auburn isn't typically where
you go to seek out stability, but correct we hope
it works for him. I remain unimpressed by Jackson Arnold,

(30:32):
and it hurts me to say that, but he looks
slow to process. He had throws that were there that
he either didn't see or was inaccurate trying to deliver
the ball. Yeah, it just hurts my heart because I
really wanted this to work. He's still a very gifted runner.
Auburn is still probably going to be a pretty good team.

(30:54):
And this isn't to say that the whole Jackson Ronald
experiment is going to be a disaster. Yet it's still
pretty early and he did, I think, go up against
a pretty good defense here. But we are seeing some
of what we saw a year ago. And that's just
troubling to me because I'm still rooting for the kid.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Right here is just a pasa for parents out there.
If at some point Ty's like I watch this tape
of this prospect he plays quarterback and I don't know,
I just think he has it.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
We can go to the Iowa stuff later. Don't bring
up market advance.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Well, we can talk about my leagu's I hear, we
can talk about Mark Ronowski, we can talk about Jackson Arnold.
Don't talk about whoever you want. It's just one of
those fork in the road moments that you're gonna have
to make peace with because your son has just been
cursed by the Lehigh Valley cursor.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Oh my god, the occult forces of the tie cursor.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
Out and out. Just say the leads, like you know
when when people just have that eye for like the
most toxic possible relationship. Tye has the eye for the
most toxic possible five star wars.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
It's incredible. It's incredible, and it is now seeped out
into my weekly picks because my weekly picks have been
trash to the point now where if anybody wants to
sponsor me to pick the team opposing your team.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
That'd be fun.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Solidverbo at gmail dot com. We could probably work something out.
Financial terms need to remain confidential, but.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
So instead of the Lock of the week, it would
be like the key of the week, Like I open
up a win for your team.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
We got to call it a lock. We gotta do all.
We got to do the show like it's a real thing.
But I agree, I'm willing to be bought off. Let's
be real. We're all trying to make a living here.
Oklahoma twenty four Auburn seventeen Oklahoma. Interestingly enough, nice little
front door cover. I won't play the sound. I don't
want to annoy the dogs out there with the doorbell,
but little front door cover on that safety. They were

(32:47):
favored by seven. I think it closed at seven. They
were up by five. Auburn had that one last down
Jackson Arnold taken down to the end zone for his
safety to get to seven to get the push.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Yeah, there you go. Sorry about that.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Miami twenty six Florida seven, Dan m h What do
you think of this one?

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Okay, here's what I think about this one. I think
Miami's a really good team. I think Miami has really
good players. I really liked I think because Game Day
was there right in the morningtime show and Pat McAfee
got an espiedo and jumped off of like a ten
meter high dive platform. Something right. I only watched a
few minutes, but they did something on Corey Hatherman and

(33:34):
it was like violent, like swarming. Violence is his like
mo and I love that because it's also the initials
of this show. He's like a big sv guy. Yeah,
And there was something very fun about watching Miami tonight.
Even though they weren't pouring on the points with the
majority of this game, they're still playing with that energy
in an in state rivalry type spot on both sides

(33:57):
of the ball. And even though it was a slopping
night at times for this offense, I just the defense
is super fun to watch. And again I talk about
sympathy for Nebraska fans sympathy for Florida fans in that
you watch the Florida offense and it's very clear that
they have good players on this offense. But it's also

(34:18):
very clear they're like, Okay, what's your plan here for
Vernell Brown or Jaden Ball? What's your plan here for
DJ Lagway? Like the line isn't there, what's the plan?
The deep threat isn't consistently there? Okay, what's the plan?
And like the word back from Gainesville is just like
your guess is as good as mine, And I just
I feel bad because DJ Lagway seems to have all

(34:42):
the talent in the world. But with as many bad
decisions as he made last week, the worst decision seems
to be that he committed to Florida. Like he could
have gone somewhere and be developed and have an offensive
coordinator in a system and turned into what he potentially
could be. Florida's not that place, and it doesn't seem

(35:03):
like it's going to be that place for a little while.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
One of the interesting, I guess sides of the whole
Florida thing right now is I think back to last
year when they put DJ Lagway in as a true freshman.
Of course billiy Napier was on the hot seat. Then
this isn't a new thing. He's been on the hot
seat for a while. But you put in a true
freshman quarterback, you tend to buy yourself a little bit

(35:26):
of grace. You know, you can experience some of those
growing pains, and I think people will give you They'll
give you a bigger safety net, let's say.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Sure, especially if you can't afford the buyout.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Especially if you can't afford the buyout. And that's the
other side of it here, if you want to be
super cynical about it. But it's something that Florida was
a conscious choice that Florida made instead of buying him out.
They're going to reinvest in the program. They're going to
put better players around Lagway, which I think was a
good idea. Sure, Billion Napier's out of excuses at this point, though,
and one of the reasons why he's out of excuses

(36:01):
is not just because he has the players, but because
he remains insistent on calling these offensive plays. And this
has been, like I think, a real source of contention
among the Florida people that write in to us week
in and week out, but especially in a game like
this that like they were there, they were kind of there.

(36:22):
This was thirteen to seven, and they had a lot
of momentum in the third quarter of this football game,
and it subsequently vanished. The deeper we got into this thing,
Miami started to assert its will a little bit more.
But like I just I'm thinking throughout the course of
this game, watching, as you said, an offense that doesn't
seem to have much of a philosophy or a plan

(36:44):
or just just a vision. I don't know, and I'm
thinking to myself, could Billy Napier have purchased a little
bit more grace for himself by assigning the play calling
to somebody else or getting a different offensive coordinator or
a different setup. It's not all on him to do this,
and then they can blame somebody else if it doesn't

(37:04):
work for whatever reason. They're still sort of doing the
same thing, banging their head against the wall, driving Florida
people insane, knowing as you said that there's a lot
of talent on this offense, but not really knowing what
to do with it. It's truly like a where do
I put my hands moment? Yeah, with this Florida offense,
and it's a bummer. It's a bummer because this one

(37:25):
was there. They went zero for twelve on third downs.
Their defense played lights out, I thought, for the majority
of this game.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
But they can't. They played lights out all year. They
played lights out against US, against USF you name it. Yeah,
you know.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
And the other thing is I would add this, we
did see a little bit of Mario mode at the
end of this one, didn't we.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Miami did tighten up a bit, they pulled away, they
did score, but it was very conservative and tight light.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Yeah, we saw we saw a little bit of him
going into that mode. I got the sound on the
board at the ready firm now until forever.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
If Miami's defense continues to look as legit as it
appears to be, it's kind of a one game season.
It's in two weeks against Florida State, Farta State. Yeah,
because there's no team on this schedule that has that
seems to have the talent and the speed and the
aggression on both sides of the ball. It doesn't mean
they're gonna go twelve and oh eleven and one, but

(38:22):
I'd much rather be a Miami guy than a Field
guy right now.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Well, they're lucky too because they don't have to play Clemson,
you know, Clemson being my preseason number one national championship contender,
not on not on the schedule either, So that really
works to their favor.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
You really know how to pick them, you really know
how to do it.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
I'm fearful for what this means for Penn State since
they were my national championship pick. But alas, okay, Clemson
lost to Syracuse Dan.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
They did, and they didn't just lose. It took us
like a six hour stretch of time.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
This is kind to have been the longest game in history,
or at least feel that way. If you were a
Clemson fan. Because there was a lengthy weather delay, it
just sort of delayed the inevitable. I guess, I don't know.
They got picked apart by Steve Angeli before he got hurt,
So Angelly and Syracuse were moving the ball way better

(39:20):
than you would expect against what I thought would be
a better defense. And he goes down in the third
quarter with a non contact injury on his left leg,
had to be helped off. Ricky Collins comes in the
rest of the way, wasn't great, but did throw a
touch up pass, a huge touchdown pass that extended the
lead to twenty thirty four to fourteen, which was kind

(39:42):
of a dagger in the second half of this one.
But obviously, like the Syracuse thing, is exciting. I'm glad
Syracuse got to win. The schedule is harder this year.
It was always a question of are they going to
find a way to get back to six wins. I
think they're going to get the six wins. The bigger
question that was Clemson, Man, are they still a question? Well,

(40:04):
no one question. The questions different now. The question before
was well, are they just playing good teams? Are they
going to find a way to get this together. What's
taking so long for them to get this together? That
was a question before They're one and three. Now, man,
this is the worst start in Dabo Sweeney's career at Clemson.

(40:25):
And this is after he went to the podium earlier
in the week and went on that crazy rant. So
the question now is not how is Clemson going to
get back to where many of us thought they would go?
The question I think is more existential now. Honestly, I'm
not going to advocate for getting rid of Dabo Sweeney.
I don't even think that's even a possibility. But honestly,

(40:48):
what is this team now? That's the question for me.
I honestly don't know.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
Can a full program have the yips. I've talked about
specific players because I still think we're fairly certain there
are many good players on this team.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
They should be better than this. That is what I
come out of every Clemson game feeling they should be
better than this. We know the talent that brought everybody back, right,
they made the roster even better. They should be better
than this. Why aren't they?

Speaker 1 (41:27):
I don't think their passing game is that good. I
don't think they can stop the run. I don't think
there's just a lot of confidence on either side of
the ball. And to me, truly, the story here is Syracuse. Oh,
because as much as it's like what's going on with Clemson,
like we've said this, this is like a full month
of it, so at a certain point you just sort
of are what you are Like Clemson. People are now

(41:49):
in the mode of like, are we twenty twenty four
Florida State? Is that what's happening right now? Can you
tell me if that's what's happening so I can mentally
and emotionally and spiritually prepare myself for a two and
ten season as everything collapses around me. Just let me know,
just please let me in on the secret here. Syracuse
does not and does not ever appear to be the

(42:10):
type of program that's like, well, we're big underdogs here,
we might as well like pack it in and play
slow and really limit possessions like friendmals, like let's go
straight at him, that's his entire mo is. Let's run
straight at them, let's throw down the field, let's make
them stop us, because we believe we are good enough

(42:32):
to inflict a lot of damage on this team, and
that's what they did from the start with Steve Ageli,
with John Tey Cook, with the running game like they were.
They played fearlessly because if you watch Clemson this year,
what is there to fear? And so they didn't try
that tactic of an overmatch team or a quote unquote

(42:53):
overmatch team. They struggled with Yukon mightily. I think Yukon
just barely beat Ball State. I want to say this
is not going to be an incredible Syracuse team, but
they were not intimidated at all by going to Clemson
and playing the Tigers.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
And that's coming from the head coach. Yeah you know,
I mean you will get their hardest effort for sixty
minutes and they might lose by forty, but they might
also beat you. Yeah, the way they did Clemson in
Clemson after a lengthy weather delay, when you know, who
knows what happens, right, It's I think a real success

(43:32):
story for fran Brown.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
I gotta tell you.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
I mean I don't want to see him leave Syracuse
and I don't think he's gonna if you believe any
of his past statements.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
But.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
Indicators are that this is going to be a much
more active coaching carousel this year. You at least got
to make him say no, at least got to consider him,
make him say no, because he's proven he can attract talent,
He's proven he can build a culture quickly. He's proven
he can go and beat a school like a Clemson. Again,
I don't want to see him leave, but you wouldn't

(44:03):
blame any of the major programs for giving a call
and saying, hey, Fran, how are you feeling updarre in Syracuse.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
He's from the northeast, though, which is nice. I mean
doesn't mean he's going to stay in the Northeast, from
like the Philly area. I want to say so. Yeah,
I mean he's an acquired taste. I happen to have
acquired it. Yeah, I'm a fan. But yeah, we'll see
how that sort of like fun brashness plays everywhere. If
he is going to look for something more prestigious in

(44:32):
the college football world. I'm having fun with him at Syracuse.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Memphis thirty two, Arkansas thirty one. Memphis was a seven
point home dog at kickoff. You were pretty interested in
this game.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
Yeah, I called this from Memphis. I believe you called
it from Memphis.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
I also bet Memphis because I believe in you, Dan,
Thank you. And one of the things that I think
we have seen in the early going, though not much
in this game, is that the Memphis defense was a
little bit better than we had seen in recent memory
and now after the beginning, yes, after the beginning. And
that's important because this is a team that was pretty

(45:12):
much all offense. It's been an infamous half team for
the last five years or so.

Speaker 1 (45:16):
But to play a little bit more.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Defense and not drop off too much on offense after
a guy like a Seth Hennikan graduates off the program,
that's significant. And it's especially significant in twenty twenty five
because whoever is making it from the G five ranks
into that playoff G six six.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
Excuse me sort of, I mean PAC twelve is sorry,
Yah'll continue.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
But that team at this point feels like it's very
much in flux, and so Memphis has just sort of
been lurking, and this is a game that they obviously
could use to kind of catapult themselves into that conversation
a great and I think they did that. I need
to go back and watch this one closer, but from
what I could gather, Arkansas ran it pretty effectively early.

(46:02):
Then stopped doing it, and Memphis came back, then started
back up and ran to the point where they were
trying to go for a game winning field goal and
then they fumbled it. Basically for the second straight week,
fumbled away an opportunity to win the game, and then
Memphis ran out the clock, and that was the story
of this one.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
Yeah. Also that the I mean you mentioned the G five,
G six, you know, hierarchy at the top. They had
an opportunity to play an SEC team and add to
their resume, as did Tulane, and Tulane got absolutely picked
apart bones and all by Trinidad Chambliss and so all

(46:44):
of this and they're playing each other. Yeah, and I
think I think Memphis plays both Tulane and USF. So
that's kind of fascinating down the stretch to see how
this all unfolds. But yeah, you want that feather. You
absolutely want to need that feather. If Memphis is gonna
say consistent and in that resume conversation, looking at.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Their schedule, they've got a monster matchup with Tulane in
week eleven, So if all holds right now, and as
you said, Tulane didn't do much against Ole Miss but
that doesn't necessarily eliminate any of these teams from contention.
That matchup with Memphis is going to be pretty big,

(47:23):
so we'll look forward to that. Thankfully you got a
couple of weeks before we get to that point, but
definitely one to keep on your radar. Generally speaking, though,
if we kind of turn our focus to what else
went down in the SEC, I think we covered most
of the action. I did plan on playing the crock
potting sound. Yeah, I wanted to play that for the

(47:51):
old miss win. You kind of beat me to the punch,
but thank you. Forty five to ten over tu Lane. Yeah.
Trinidad Chambliss, who played in plays of Austin Simmons, was incredible.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
The other big one that went down tonight was Missouri
twenty nine, South Carolina twenty Super fun. It's a really
fun game. We previewed this one on Thursday. My curiosity
was the game plan, like, what's that going to look like?
I was hoping we would see what we did end
up seeing tonight, which was find a way to get

(48:22):
Bouprabuele a little bit more on the move with his legs. Obviously,
lean on a guy like an mad Hardy, who's been
very very good since transferring over agree and you know,
find ways to find ways to make South Carolina relatively
one dimensional. You know, don't let him run it, force

(48:43):
Lenora's sellers to throw it. Just limit the ways that
he can kill you when they've got the football right.
They did an awesome job on all that stuff. And
to boot, they outrushed South Carolina by a two to
eighty five to negative nine margin.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
Dan, that's a helpful, hellul place to be.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
Unbelievable. So Miszoo another one of these teams, right, you
talked about Michigan earlier. Michigan plays one and a half
real defenses at time of recording. Miszoo relative to their
peers in the SEC, has a pretty advantageous schedule. So
maybe just a team to keep your eye on. I
don't know what people think of South Carolina at this juncture,

(49:23):
but something to be aware of.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
I mean, South Carolina has an absolute star of a
quarterback who can make plays that nobody else in this
conference or probably America can make, just in terms of
buying time with no offensive line and delivering something beautiful
into the awaiting hands of somebody. Thirty eight yards downfield.
He's incredible. They have really good players. He is not

(49:49):
behind a line that can be depended on for anything
over the course of four quarters, and he cannot do
it himself. As much as we like to call him
the creator, he is the biggest part of a team
that is struggling to play consistent offense and get off
the field on defense. At times, I don't mind this defense.
I think the South Carolina defense can do enough to
win games. Bo Barbule is kind of interesting to me. Yeah, man,

(50:12):
He's not amazing, no, And I don't think if somebody
makes Miszoo one dimensional and forces a bunch of three
and three and eight third and eights and stuff like that,
I don't think he's the greatest. But like, is there
a little bit of John Mattier in Bo Brabula or
vice versa. There's something there. And I like Missoo's ability,

(50:32):
and I like their schedule moving forward, They're gonna win
a bunch of games. I like them. Yeah, bou Bbuela
looked good.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
He's looked really good since coming over for Penn State,
and I think we're gonna see a lot more of
the game plan that we saw today, where they try
to use him as a runner, but even as a passer,
he's been pretty good when he's had the opportunity to
do so. So I think, you know, MISSOO is a
team that people should just be aware of. We ask

(51:00):
you a very pointy question about a different conference, though,
Please when you and I next record our next episode
of the podcast, okay, which I guess would be Monday afternoon. Yeah,
is Luke Fickle still going to be the coach at Wisconsin?

Speaker 1 (51:15):
So he got like the dreaded vote of confidence right
there were chants in the stadium like fire Fickle chants
right after. They did not look competitive at all against Maryland,
which you gotta look competitive against Maryland. The defense has
looked good this year for the Terps. Malik Washington's an
interesting talent. You gotta look competitive at this point Luke
Fickle's career at Wisconsin, they were not. I'm gonna say yes,

(51:41):
but it's hard to see him wearing a Wisconsin pull
over next season.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
So crazy to me that this hasn't worked. Yeah, I mean,
he's a good coach. He's been a good coach for
a long time, and not every good coach is able
to transform every situation he steps into.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
Right, I am.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
Confounded by the fact that this hasn't worked. And I
think what's probably most frustrating if you're a Wisconsin fan,
each season has kind of felt the same. They've had
issues with quarterback luck and injuries right since he got there,
and they're actively trying to make the offense better, but
I don't know if it's any better. It kind of

(52:27):
feels like most of the Wisconsin teams that we've seen
over the last few seasons, and that's just damn frustrating.
I don't know how else to put it. So I
don't know how he even if he makes it through.
You know, this wave of frustration that I'm sure is
going to wash over Madison in light of a twenty
seven to ten loss to Maryland. Right, I don't like,

(52:49):
there's no way this can be a longer term thing
at this point.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
I mean, the worst possible explanation is that he is
a pretty good coach and Wisconsin is not a place
built for these times that when they were in the
Big Ten West and the way that they approached nil
as a school, and the way the Big Ten is
currently built in terms of the teams at the top
and how they're spending that Wisconsin is the expectations of

(53:16):
Wisconsin as a program aren't necessarily realistic if they're in
line with where they were ten years ago.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
Notre Dame fifty six perdue thirty. I'm not going to
spend a whole lot of time talking about this.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
It was closed for like fourteen minutes.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
There was another weather delay in this. Are all these
weather delays all of a sudden driving us all crazy?
Fifty six to thirty was your final. Notre Dame ran
for two fifty and five touchdowns on the ground. It
was never really in doubt. But yes, there was a
moment first half where it's like, hmm, this is closer
than we expected. There were many text messages I can

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tell you going back and forth with Mama H and
I about Notre Dame's defense. And I can tell you
right now, if they don't find a way to fix
this defense quick, and that probably involves getting rid of
Chris Ash or reassigning him to some sort of administrative function, well,
Luke Fickle might be available, Brent Price is available. Like,

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if they don't come up with some way, some better
way to use Chris Ash at this stage of the game.
This could well be a four loss team.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
You mean like in catering or something. What do you mean?

Speaker 2 (54:29):
Whatever?

Speaker 1 (54:29):
To use him?

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Okay, whatever, Just don't let him call the defense because
based on what we're seeing, even though they yes got
better in the second half, this version of Notre Dame
with him calling that defense and whatever they're trying to do,
it's four lost team. They're going to lose two more
games if they keep playing the style of defense.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
Okay, so.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
Put that down right, it in stone, whatever, hold me
to it. But I'm telling you right now, they got
to fix that, and they got to do it quick.
It wouldn't surprise me if he is not the defensive
coordinator the next time we record.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
Real like in two days. Yeah, it would step in.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
Just run ass Becus Freeman could step in, Mike Mickens
could step in. They can come up with some other
way to run that defense and scheme that defense. It's
not to say that he can't have a hand in it.
But whatever they're doing right now, we're like a month
into this thing.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Man, what if Ryan Brown is just a fun wild
card tie and he's gonna be that way all season long.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
I'm telling you it's been bad. It's been bad. They
got I guess a little bit more pressure in this game,
but there's still miscommunication issues. They're still i think soft upfront,
softer than we've seen the last couple of years.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
There's a lot there.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
I mean, this is an offense at scoring points, and
so to waste that offense because the defense can't get
it sacked together. There's still a lot to play for
if you're Notre Dame. But they got to get it
together quick and fair again. If they don't make a
pretty serious change here quickly, it's four lost team.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
But listen, he is the defensive coordinator for a team
on a current winning streak. There's that.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
Speaking of coaching strife, Oklahoma State lost at home to
Tulsa on Friday night, nineteen to twelve. Yeah, the first
time that Tulsa has won in still Water since nineteen
fifty one. Not great, Dan rubinste this might be it
for Gundy, right, Oh it is. I think it's got
one hundred percent. Yeah, the question is is he there

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on Monday?

Speaker 1 (56:37):
Yeah, I mean he's earned, you know, the benefit of
like going out on a very respectful turn. I just
he'll be fine in terms of how this all ends.
But yeah, they're not gonna get rid of a midseason,
there's no point.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
And then last but not least. Of course, there are
games that we are not going through. Many of them
were outs. But uh, the ACC is kind of interesting, man,
got some interesting stuff going on the ACC. That Duke
n C State game was a ton of fun, lot
of offense. NCC couldn't overcome four turnovers, but a good
game from CJ. Bailey.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
Not a good game for CJ. Bailey. He threw three interceptions.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
He threw three interceptions, but also through for three hundred
and sixty four yards. So I'm trying to fill out
a positive Dan I don't.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
I don't think if somebody stopped him on the street
tonight and said do you have a good game, be like, yeah,
I don't think that. Okay, fair enough, fair enough, continue
through for a lot of yards.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
Let's leave it there. Sure h forty five to thirty four, though,
Duke with a nice win, nice little second half rally.
Virginia Tech got off the schneide, finally got to win
over Wafford.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
Great.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
There was this game though, between UCF and North Carolina.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Yeah, I didn't watch it yet. But it seemed entertaining
from this game.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
Was an absolute mess for North Carolina.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
Okay, it was so bad.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
Two hundred and seventeen yards that's all they got against
this team. I don't know, man, that's a problem. That's
a real problem.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
I mean, the problem bigger picture is that North Carolina
is using this year to broadcast what they can be
in terms of an attractive program to recruits and potential
portal editions, and it's not a great broadcast in this moment,
especially when like now you're gonna start having like the
social media teams dunk on North Carolina if they're beating them,

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like UCF's did. They had like the what the Knight
holding up a w with the Knight's legs mimicking the
Jordan Hudson Bill Belichick picture on the beach. You're just
like there's a lot of fodder where like if you're
gonna ask like is this guy even there? At this point,
You're like, this doesn't seem like it's a fun experience

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for Bill Belichick in this moment. Okay, I don't know.
We'll say there's time.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
There is time before we move on to our next segment,
which will be the reverbs.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
Okay, you don't want to talk Platypus Cup. I was
Apple Cup.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
I was going to ask you about the Platypus Cup
and the Apple Cup because these are two name brand
right win the platty name brand rivalries. Oregon wins forty
one to seven. Washington had a little bit of trouble
with Wazoo, but then pulled away late.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
The Oregan start was pretty sluggish too.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
What what are we feeling on the Oregon side now
going into this big one against Penn State next week?
Did you see anything at all in this game that
you think is going to be relevant? On Tuesday when we.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Recorded the run defense for like a quarter and a half,
wasn't great for Oregon. It seemed like sort of a lethargic,
sluggish forty one to seven win at times. But then
they opened it up and uh, We're able to get
stops on the ground. They completely limited Malik Murphy through
the air. He was at some point it was like
three of fifteen or something. I think Oregon State basically

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had one drive Oregon may have has. Oregon allowed like
their starting defense I think has allowed a touchdown this season,
So I'm not terribly worried that there's anything super concerning
about this Oregon team. They're just gonna play what could
be a very very good Penn State team and that's worrisome.
But no, I think outside of maybe the run defense,

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Oregon seems to be in a good spot. You know,
Decoryan Moore was there and playing well. There was some
question about his health. Dante More looked for the most
part pretty excellent, and defense is making place. It's a
good game for Oregon in kind of a sad situation
where Oregon State is is a program right now. And
you mentioned Washington Washington State and the Apple Cup being

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close for.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
A stretch, Yeah, three quarters, so it was close.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Washington is just there's a lot of quality speed to
Washington like that a relief pitcher from nineteen eighty one
would be interested in. Are those Greenies are? Yeah, there's
like I just they're a fun offensive team, which a
team coached by Jedfish generally seems to be. I think
they're gonna be really good and they have Do they

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have Ohio State next week? Is that what's happening? Are
they coming up with Ohio? Ohio State comes town next week.
That's gonna be fun and weird, hopefully for my entertainment eyes.
But yeah, Washington took care of business. A lot of
it was just like generating those chunk plays on the ground,
and it was with zeb eck House is the Wazoo quarterback.
He's making plays for a stretch of that game. He
has to do arety admirable for them? He has to

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do everything.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
Yeah, he has to do everything. But he scored three touchdowns,
two through the air, one on the ground, also turned
it over three times, had two picks in a fumble.
Demon Williams is my dude.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
He's good. He's not huge, No, no, he runs. He
puts his body on the line, which is admirable. He's
not a big guy.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
He is not a big guy. All right, right in
salverbogmail dot com. Let us know what we got right,
what we got wrong. Of course, if you are listening,
if you are watching, if you can comment, please do so.
Let us know your thoughts on all the action. Of course,
there are many other games that we could get into.
I will not talk about my possible upset alert of

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the BYU Cougars because they annihilated East Carolina. Yes, yes,
and that was another one that I was wrong about again.
More to the point, if you want me to bet
on your opponent, just let me know again that email
address is Severble at gmail dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
That email address, of course, is Fadraham Lincoln at gmail
dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
Yeah, all right, we did get a bunch of your
voice messages at eight five five verbal three. It is
perhaps a slim down version because I had to cut
them our normal reverb guy Sha has been out of
town the last two weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
So where is he at? Parts unknown?

Speaker 4 (01:02:55):
Man?

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
He did a Japan trip relatively recently. He did? He
did it? Is he back to Asia? I don't. I
don't you know. Is he in the Yukon territory.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
I believe he's in the greater forty eight States, but oh, okay,
I don't, or the lower forty eight states, but I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
I don't know exactly where. Man of like a specialized
dungeon of some kind.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
Okay, whatever he's into. Yeah, I don't he's he's not
doing the reverbs.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
Okay, he'll be doing him next week. Provided you and
I could find a place to record and play the reverbs,
we'll be fine.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
But uh, I cut this version. Okay, I heard all
the ones that came in. I could not go as
late waiting for reverbs because I had to do all
this and study for the show. But here's what we
got for a week four. Have a listen.

Speaker 4 (01:03:40):
So this is Cody from Madison, Wisconsin.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
This is a dirty mic from backline.

Speaker 4 (01:03:50):
This is Cameron calling from Wisconsin.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
Hey, it's a pectil pet and stillwater.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
Hey, I'm just worrying if you could tell me how
a buy out working for a friend.

Speaker 4 (01:03:58):
That was the most pitiful ending to a game I've
ever watched. Auburn gave up a block in the back,
then two fall start in three sacks in a row,
and then to a safety to end the game.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
These reps today have been so bad that Hugh Freeze
actually can blame their loss on someone. The reps from
the Auburn Oklahoma game need to be left at the tarmac, fired,
or at a minimum driven to Pearl Vision. Not a
sponsor could be.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
This might be Sehr's Clemson team in a decade and
QB one might be out for a while. But I
just want to say, Coach Frankins Shower, it's a great day, folks.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
You baby.

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
I can't say a lot of good about what happens today.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
But you got to understand that Bo just figured this
coaching thing out. In sixteen years, we'll be back on top.

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
It would appear that maybe Dabo Twinty is the Nick
Sabit of Mike Gundies.

Speaker 4 (01:04:55):
Is Kyle Whittingham the James Franklin of kirk Farncis.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
I'm calling to report a bakery explosion in Salt Lake City,
turnovers everywhere.

Speaker 4 (01:05:05):
I just watched one of the worst quarters of Badger
football and I wanted to say, Ty, I forgive you
for locking up Wisconsin.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
Just please lock up Minnesota in.

Speaker 4 (01:05:14):
The X game. Talk to your kids about foreign o Maryland.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
They should make every.

Speaker 4 (01:05:19):
Game from Maryland in September.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
Dylan Riola might be cause playing as Patrick Mahomes, but
after that Hill Mary is it safe to say that
Royola has a little bit of Aaron Rodgers in him?
Does Dante Moore have a little bit of Darren Thomas
at him?

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
And I have one question for you, do you believe
in the mean Green? I'm in a tunnel at Notre
Dame Stadium because there's lightning. Chris Ash is a problem.
Rid Alert wondering if Chris Ash could get fired during
a three minute halftime. Look, I'm not saying that Scott
Frock is going to continue to win every game that

(01:05:58):
he coaches for UCF. All I'm saying is that you
can't prove that you won't. Right now, I'm watching Ties
Indiana Hoos put.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
A whooping on Illinois.

Speaker 4 (01:06:09):
Watch out, Big ten coach Digg is about to smoke
the competition.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Wind Bonding. You cowards, Rank Vandy, You cowards.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
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that in before you and I record and make it
live for the public. We did get a comment in there.

(01:06:42):
I don't know if you paid much attention to the
Notre Dame game, but because of the weather delay, right,
it was a long weather delay before they got the halftime,
and so what they ended up doing was basically making
that the halftime.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
I saw that they just rolled over second to the
third quarter. That's right, they just rolled over the I
did see that, yeah, which actually was cost to myself.
I was watching the game when they came back and
there was like thirty nine seconds left in the second quarter.
I was like, they're not going to take a break
right now after they just three hours or whatever. I
don't know how long the break was, but I was
very happy to see that they went. They just went

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second to third. It's good for them.

Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
We don't normally take questions on the Saturday night live stream,
right because this was I think a different kind of
week than we had seen in the previous three, I
thought it would be the right time to do it.
So let's go to this one here from Joshua, who says,
do you have a favorite in the Big twelve after

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this wild week?

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
Dan Rubinstein, a favorite in the Big Twelve after this
wild week? I'd have to look at all of the
schedules together and like some sort of matrix formation. I'm
gonna say, I'm not gonna be a prisoner of the moment.
I'm gonna say Iowa State right now?

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
Yeah, I mean, I think Iowa State in Texas Tech
for me, Yeah, I think that's my favorite, not favorites.
I think that's how I'm feeling right now. I mean, okay,
Texas Tech really showed me something today. There's a reason
that you and I both let off with Texas Tech
beating Utah. Utah is not an easy place to play,
right and this is not, again a Texas Tech squad

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that is accustomed to being in defensive struggles for three
and a half quarters.

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
So, whether that's because of the talent they brought in
or the mentality that Joey maguire has put in place,
you know, I'm not on the ground, I don't know,
but that to me is again the most impressive singularly,
the most impressive thing that we saw in week four.
And I'd be hard pressed to put anybody other than
Texas Tech in that game right now, if you're asking

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me now after week four, you know, I was really
really impressed by what I saw.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
By the way, ASU coming up just on the topic
of the Big twelve, after this Baylor win TCU at
home at Utah, Texas Tech Houston, who might be a
decent defense at Iowa State. That's their media middle, Okay,
So if they start out that media middle in an
impressive way, I reserve the right to say, oh, as

(01:09:13):
he was doing it for me. I love this question
from a different only answering josh questions. Is that the
big thing tonight?

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
I mean, this is just a good questions from Josh. Yeah,
It's a question that we talked a lot about when
we previewed the Big ten. Yeah, but the ACC in
the preseason did not have this same tenor to it. Okay,
Joshua says who is the fourth best ACC team? He

(01:09:43):
says a clear top three, but it feels like a
mess after that, So I guess his top three would
probably be Miami Yeah, Florida State, James Yeah, Florida State,
and Georgia Tech.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
Sure, who would you put forth?

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
Is Clemson fourth?

Speaker 4 (01:10:03):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:10:03):
Not right now? Uh, they just lost to a different
ACC team today? Is Syracuse?

Speaker 4 (01:10:10):
No? I would?

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
I would right now? I think the conversation is around
Louisville almost three and oh it hasn't been a crazy
impressive season, but the three and no, uh, Duke, I'm
gonna need to see more consistency. I don't know what
the score of the Cal game is, but I'm gonna
need to see more from Cal after last season. We
like JKS. But who are they playing tonight at San

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Diego State? I believe yep. Uh yeah, I'm gonna say
for fourth, I'll plant my flag right now and I'll
say Louisville. Okay, don't love it, but it's tough. I
still gotta.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
Believe that Clemson can get their act together.

Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
Why, I don't know what is their act exactly after
the last fifteen games.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
Okay, I mean it's it. I would love to say Cal,
but I think Cal is still a little too flawed,
even though they're really fun at quarterback.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
I just they don't have the skill talent to me.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
I think my default answer would probably end up being
Duke Duke over Louisville or smuu an interesting case as well.
But to the point here, yeah, it is a mess
after that top three. I think that's that's a given.
Josh Nick Sooner junior once could Josh with Oklahoma beating

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Auburn and Jackson Arnold, have they taken all the steps
to get the monkey off their back from last year?
So the monkey on the back question for Oklahoma is
an interesting one. Yeah, so far, I think they've gotten
the monkey off their back, improving that they can have

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a productive offense or at least a product to quarterback.
Because we didn't see that at all last year. So
that part is definitely better. But I still have questions
about the overall plan on offense. How much can you
put on one guy John Mattier. Will they be able
to run the ball as they get into some of
the better teams on their schedule. This is ultimately a

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very very limited sample size with Oklahoma, and I think
the quote unquote monkey on the back is going to
be against the better schools here. This is a program
that's used to winning. So to go four and oh,
to start five and oh, as they will be after
next week, that's all well and good. And Illinois almost
say Illinois don't know why it's late Oklahoma was going

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to find a way into a bowl game. I think
that much is certain. Oklahoma is better than I thought
they were going to be. I'm already willing to acknowledge that.
But the question of what is the monkey on the
back is I think nuanced and kind of interesting in
and of itself.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
Yeah, I mean it's just a question of offensive pop.
You talk about the running game, we talk about the
if you're talking about the monkey on their back from
last season, it's down four or five of their best
receivers last year, and so it's not only having guys healthy,
but having a viable complete offense would probably go a
long way. They have Texas, South Carolina, Ole, Miss Tennessee, Pama, Missoo,

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and LSU. They're gonna need to score thirty points in
some of those games. Yeah, and that is when I
will feel confident that, like, oh, this is an evolved,
really fascinating winning team. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
I think that's right. Final question here from Mason, how
are we feeling about the Heisman Trophy?

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
Pretty good? I think they should have it again this year,
probably in New York the Downtown Athletic Club.

Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
Ah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
How am I feeling about the Heisman Trophy? We just
haven't seen level of competition that extensively. So I think
we can eliminate from the top of the conversation a
couple of guys that were there and Kate club Nick
and Arch Manning. Although he we'd have mentioned it, but
he did perform really well against Sam Houston tonight. Who's

(01:14:14):
in that conversation right now, Well.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
I mean John Mattier is definitely in that conversation. I
think coming into the week, Carson Beck was actually the
prohibitive favorite favorite to win, but I just don't feel
that strongly about Carson Beck.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
I'd put Justice Haynes there.

Speaker 2 (01:14:34):
Justice Haines with the way that he has played. We
didn't see Julian saying this week, but Julian Sayan has
I think every possibility of being in that conversation. I
would also add a guy like get Dante Moore.

Speaker 1 (01:14:50):
Dante More. We need to see the competition this week.
I think he has extraordinary ability and his receivers tight
ends look really good. That should be a complete offense.
He should be able to put up big numbers and
big games. I can tell you who my dark horse
is right now.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
I just set up a moda Hardy by the way,
Mott Hardy. Mott Hardy is a great selection as well.
My dark horse is Tommy Castellanos from Florida State because.

Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
He would have a narrative point of view. Yeah, he
would absolutely have an error.

Speaker 4 (01:15:17):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
I think he hurt his leg in the game today
against Kent. It looks like he's gonna be fine. He'll
be back in time for the Miami game. I'm sure.
But right now he's at twenty five to one. The
acc to the previous point is a certifiable mess. After
that top three or four. I mean, it's just a
lot of teams that feel the same, and so Florida

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State if they're seventy five percent as good as they've
looked so far, once they get into some of the
meat of their schedule, Tommy Castellanos is going to have
every opportunity to show out and the offense is going
to run through him based on what we've seen so far.
So they're not that far away at this point with

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the state of the conference from being one of those
teams that you know, again, we're talking about them as
a top three team now, but it's not going to
take much for them to stay there and get into
that ACC title game a couple of weeks down the line.
If they're there, it's because of him. And if they're
there because of him, there's a pretty good chance that
he's in this conversation. At a minimum, his odds are

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going to go down.

Speaker 3 (01:16:22):
They have to.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
So that's the name that I'm looking at right now.

Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
That I don't hate buying low, by the way, Okay,
I don't hate buying low with Ty Simpson in this moment. Yeah,
I don't hate the idea of looking at favorable numbers
for the Bulldoza Fernando Mendoza. Yeah, there's a ton because
you do have to look at opportunities against top flight

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teams that are going to be on like Network TV
at night or on Big newon or whatever. There's a
lot of really fun names right now. Mess to maker,
is that how you pronounce it?

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
I don't think Drew Mestemaker is gonna win the Heisman
from North Texas, but he's looked really good.

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
Good Heisman caliber.

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
Okay caliber, let's close this thing out some doodle words.

Speaker 3 (01:17:05):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
We put a call out on social media every Saturday
night we ask you for your dudes. Who were your
top performers from the week? That was dan? Who do
we got for week four?

Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
Obviously? Eric McAllister. When you catch two hundred and fifty
four yards worth of passes, that's going to just do
it for me.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
There were a lot of like really interesting performances. Cam
Edwards at Yukon went for about two hundred yards. I
appreciate that. Chan Moo at Virginia kind of a fun
offensive like Bengal Branson threw for a bunch of yards
against Virginia. Okay, and Chandler Morris had a bunch for Virginia.
You know, I'm not going to fully dedicate a time

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to your guy, Mark Gronowski for Iowa, but he's improving.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
You mean, the winningest quarterback in the history of college football, Markronowski?

Speaker 1 (01:18:01):
Well, on multiple level.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
Did you see this if you combine everything all levels
of college football? Okay, Mark Ronowski with their win over
Rutgers on Friday night, thirty eight, twenty eighty at three
rushing touchdowns. If you consider all of the wins over
the course of his career, he is fifty two. His
career record is fifty two and seven. That is the
most career wins of anyone to ever play college football.

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Congratulations Mark Ronows, Congratulations to him.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
I got Sutton Smith for Memphis, had a terrific game
against the Arkansas defense. Dylan Riley for Boise very quietly
against in a sort of fun shootout against air Force,
had a big night, four touchdowns, nine yards per carry.
Who else did I really like here?

Speaker 3 (01:18:46):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:18:46):
The receiver from Rutgers Ian Strong in a losing effort.
That was a fun back and forth on hold on,
hold on, Okay, back on the board. I'm trying to
think of anybody's anybody you have. Jeremiah Love had a
good game because he had a not so great opponent.
Went probably one hundred and fifty yards, right, Jeremiah Love.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
Jadarian Price, Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And you mentioned not Hardy earlier.
Mott Hardy I think is Oh, he's ridiculous. Is going
to be a perennial dude? But not Will Hammond, big
Bill h big Bill h Man Yep. Absolutely for Texas,
tech stepped in performed admirably.

Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
The big one for me is Eric Callister two hundred
and fifty through the air. But yes, right in again,
sliverbogimail dot com. If you've got any dudes that we
missed that you think should feel slighted by us not
mentioning them, here.

Speaker 1 (01:19:34):
You go, Jeremy in the comments. Jacob Rodriguez, linebacker for Texas,
tacking eleven tackles, sack, force, fumble and a pick and
a fumble.

Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
Recude, he was everywhere. Yes, a lot of great performances
a week four. Please do let us know who we missed.
I'm sure there are many that we missed. Of course,
wherever it is you are listening or watching, if you
want to drop us a comment that helps it obviously
helps us keep in tune with what's going on in
the Verballer hood and what you guys think and feel
about what we just saw in the world of college football.

(01:20:02):
Check us out at verballers dot com if you want
to further support what Dan and I do again, the
Verballer Top twelve poll in advance of Week five will
be posted bright and early on Sunday morning if you're
a certified or Premium member. I would also remind people
that the plan for next week is that you and
I are going to try and do this show from

(01:20:23):
Parts unknown in State College, Pennsylvania after the Penn State
Oregon game. Yes, so we've got a way into the stadium.
We're going to make sure that work. It's yeah, we're
primed and ready to go to talk about all things
college football at this hour next week, but the setting's
going to look a little bit different. Will be in

(01:20:44):
the same spot. If there are any changes for whatever
reason to the schedule, we'll make sure we'll let you know.
But at time of recording here, the plan is to
go off without a hitch and do the normal thing
on a Saturday night.

Speaker 1 (01:20:56):
Truly my favorite part of the season. Anytime I get
to be at college football. Yes, yes, on that note.

Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
For that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein,
for myself, Tie hilden Brandt, For everybody out there supporting
the cause, watching, listening along at home. Thank you as
always for being here with us and being part of
the community. We'll catch you all on Tuesday. In the
meantime to day soft peace

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