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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hello, and welcome to the Spirited Actor Podcast with me
Tracy Moore. I was a casting director for film and
TV and commercials for over thirty years. I transitioned to
a celebrity acting coach after I cast a film New
Jersey Drive with executive producer Spike Lee and director Nick Domez.
I auditioned every rapper from Biggie Smalls to Tupac, and
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I realized that rappers and musical artists they needed help
transitioning to acting. My clients consist of musical artists from
Buster Rhymes to Eve, Missy Elliott, Angela Yee from The
Breakfast Club, and Vanessa Simmons, to name a few. I
also coach sports stars and host as well. I feel
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I have the best of both worlds. As a casting director,
I know exactly what they're looking for, and as an
acting coach, I can coach you to be remembered in
that room. Now I know, I know actors want to
get the job. I get that, But being remembered by
a casting director that is powerful. And now it's time
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for meditation of the day. Optimism is a perfectly legitimate
response to failure. Stephen King, failure is good. You don't
need to stay down all the time when you fall.
Les Brown has this saying where he says, when you fall,
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make sure you fall on your back so you can
look up and get up.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Something like that.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
In order for us and I just want to reiterate
the outstanding interview with Dorian Wilson and Dorian Echoes this.
You have to train, you have to work on your craft,
and in doing those things, you will eventually master and
be an expert in your craft. But it is imperative
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that you show up knowing the protocol and the verbiage.
That's what gives you the security, the confidence.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
To do this.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
When you know what you're doing. Don't think of anything
as a failure. There may be some hurdles, there may
be some obstacles, but nothing that you can't get through
or get passed. Never look at failure as something better,
as something that's preventing you from getting what it is
that you want. Failure is just a reminder that there's
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still more work to do and there's still more things
to learn.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Today.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I will make me a priority before we get started.
I'd like to remind everyone to look out for my
new show, Inside the Black Box.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I'll Welcome to the.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Spirited Actor Podcast with Me Network by far is going
to be the best show that I've ever had on
this podcast, and I'm going to tell you what the
best Okay, the pressure, no pressure. This our guest today.
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He is probably the only one that I would allow
to do the authorize autobiography of Tracy Moore if he
wanted to insert some things, because he truly does know me.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
As I have denied.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
In New York for years that I've ever acted in
or I've ever performed. Dorian Wilson is here to expose
the truth. Dorian Wilson is one of the best actors
in the entertainment business, most consistent, and my favorite actor.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
When I saw dream On on HBO and I saw
Dorian almost passed out because I went to school with Dorian.
We go to talk about all that. I want you
guys to sit back. I want you to get whatever
you document information on your.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Record on your phone, write it down.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
You are going to walk away with a treasure chest
of diamonds, emeralds, and pearls. Please put your hands together
for one of the most dynamic forces in this entertainment business.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
As an actor, Dorian, what there?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Well, thank you? Thank you? Are you talking about me?
All that was for me?
Speaker 2 (04:41):
All of it, Dorian.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
I wish that if I was a whole lot, you
get a whole lot on that.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
But thank you. I appreciate I How do you. It's
so good to see you.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
It's so good to see Dorian. I feel like it's
crazy right now. You still look the same except your.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
You like, where's where's your dreads up?
Speaker 1 (05:03):
But yeah, yeah, I cut him all off. I cut
him off and free, so you didn't have reads back then? No, no, no,
back then it was like I was messing with the
perm and just coming out of high school. But and
I went to school together at Pacific Conservatory of Performing
Arts in Santa Maria, California. And Santa Maria was put
on the map by Michael Jackson's trial, remember, right, okay, right,
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I think we had one cab one mall.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Maybe, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
But you were kind of used to it because you
were from San Luis, Bisbo and I.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Was Lompoke the other side. Yeah, yeah, so I was
definitely used to it. So I you know, I had
grew up there. My dad was in the Air Force,
so we had been on Vandenberg Air Force Base for many,
many years. Then we moved to Lompope, the big city,
and I went to school there and graduated from Lampokai
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and then went on to uh PCPA. Look you, I
bet you you don't know. When I was in the
eleventh grade, I saw a couple of plays at PCPA
and I was like, oh my god, that's that's what
I want to do. I can't I can't wait, blah
blah blah. So they held auditions for the upcoming year,
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and I'm like, let me get my admission in and
whatnot and everything. I went through the whole audition process,
say my little song and everything, and only to get
a letter saying we don't accept anybody until they after
they graduate. But here's your acceptance letter right saying when
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you graduate, you don't have to audition again. And you
come right to us and and you're.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
In okay because I had to audition.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Of course you did. Of course you did. I still auditioned,
but it was in the eleventh grade.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Though, oh my god, can I just.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Huh? I said, isn't that a great story?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Though? That is a great story, you know what. It
kind of reminds me of a Billy Porter story. Before COVID.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
They had a CSA Awards ceremony here in New York
at Chelsea, and Billy Porter talked about how he.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Was in high school.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
He snuck away from home, rode the train to Chicago
to audition for Meg Simon and they were like, oh
my god, you're amazing. And then he was like, I'm seventeen.
They were like, get out of here, go back home.
You can't write.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
And then.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Circle comes Megan has him audition and they reconnect because
he thanked her for an award and it was amazing.
So that's a that's a oh my god. Yeah, okay,
what what what?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
You guys don't know? This was a two year program.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
At the second year, I got pneumonia and bronchitis at
the same time. Unbeknownst to me, I found out through
Dorrian that I had been cast in Greece and I
was cast in the Cheeta Rivera role. But I was
unable to make it back to second year. And it
was the worst thing because you.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Know, I felt like it was no I felt left me.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
I didn't love me. Do you know how many there
were of us.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Who Dorian Wilson and Tracy wore wore.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
The entire program, y'all. Is that crazy? But you know
it was what it was, and we represented though.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Yeah we did.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
We did.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Because go ahead, Dorian.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I was just going to say, there was like literally
out of the forty fifty students whatever, five students that
got cast out of our class that made it to
the main stage or productions or whatever, and we were
two of them.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
And you know what, Dorian, I have to I have
to question this, like I think about this right because
I'm going to piggyback off this story that Dory and
I were talking about. We had a singing class and
this woman Bet Miller. She was the voice of the Chipmunks,
one of the chipmunks, right, But we had gotten all right,
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I got kicked out of class and then they sent
Dorrian to keep me company.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
So we were sitting on the stairs.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Wait, you can't negate all the other stuff that led
up to.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Oh no, okay, let's tell this story.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Let me recap. Yeah, we have this class. It was
a singing class and they partnered up with you know,
each of the students and whatnot, and me and Tracy
were paired together the only Yeah, so I don't know
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if that's the reason, but I'm pretty sure it was.
But anyway, we sang.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
You are the sunshine of my life.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Right, so Tracy can really sing. I kind of just
fell behind her, but you know, I could carry it
to him. But anyway, Tracy was doing all these riffs
and flows and ebbs and whatnot, and so afterwards, I'll
let you pick it up from there.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
So I don't remember the you say your question because
I remember that I'm so did to that that's what
got to be kicked out of class, right, Yeah, well.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
The question was so Beth then proceeds to ask everybody
their critique in the class, and you know, it's supposed
to be constructive criticians criticism, and one of the comments
was that we sound too black to ethnic and why
do we always have to, you know, do all the
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runs and whatnot.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
And then a white student said, she raised her hand
and she said, why do you guys always sing black songs?
And I said, why do you always sing white songs?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
And then Beth.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Said, Tracy, why don't you go outside and take a
moment and get some air, right, And then like two
minutes later, I see Dorian next to me.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I'm like, why why are you here? And I know, sorry,
but I And also there were words like.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Militant that were you know about absolutely, but this was
my my thing was I am an actress, so look
at me as an actress before you look at me
as a black actress because the other thing is dory
and I got cast all the obvious. In Little Abner,
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we were the African dancers Helen Keller.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
We were.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Yes, yes, yes, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
So whatever was black, they stuck us.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
But they couldn't do that for the world premiere because
there wasn't.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
A breakdown of color.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
It was just actors and monologues and you know, us
threading stories together, so there was no color. But my
question was that day that we were sitting out, Randy Miler,
who was one of the teachers.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Passed by.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
He came over and asked us what happened? So we
started well, I started telling him in my militant way,
and then Dorian was there with me supporting.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
And then right after.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
That we were allowed a little bit after we were
allowed to audition because they said first year students, which
we were. And I just want to say too, we
started out at one hundred twenty five, I believe students
and they Okay, well, I remember being on the main stage.
Do you remember Michael and Lauren the actress. Yeah, so
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Lauren moved to New York. So I used to see
Lauren all the time. But Michael and Lauren were feared
by the students.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Oh wow, they were feared.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Because they had you know, they just they were divas
and you know, but they told But Lauren said to me,
I didn't even know Lauren, he said to me, he said,
look around, look around the theater.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
I looked around.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
He said, there are one hundred and twenty five people here.
Look around because they won't be here by the time,
you know, we start and whatever.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
And it did. It wheedled down, you know right.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Oh yeah, we had our.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Schedule was so demanding.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
So demanding, sun up to sundown. And then I had
a like an hour drive to get back home to
Longpoke from Santa Maria. It wasn't quite that long. But
you know, our day was so fulfilled, filled singing, dance, acting, mind,
just the whole work, the lights, you know that we
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had to work behind the scenes, all of that. Yeah,
and so that it filled the entire day. So yeah,
it was exhausting, but it made.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Us well, yes, yes, it gave us great work ethic.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Absolutely, it was such a great foundation. Yeah, and it's
one of the things that I tell I used to
teach acting through eight through eighteen year olds and people
told me all the time, you know, oh, I'm I'm
such a great actor, or I'm a comedian and blah
blah blah and all this other stuff. And I'm like, so,
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where did you go to school? They're like, well, I
didn't go to school, but I just know, you know,
I know, and blah blah blah. And it's it's the
craziest thing. It just doesn't come out of nowhere, you know.
So I tell them to you know, you've got to
get your training first. You know. You could be the
right place at the right time. You can even get
that role, you know, and have the best loop, but
if you don't have anything to sustain it, if you
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don't have you know, your foundation laid and you know,
know exactly what you're doing, you're going to be a
flash in the pad, you know. So you know, people
out there, get your training first, you so you are
prepared when you do get that moment for you know life,
camera action you're on and then you'll be going onto
your next project.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Absolutely, and you guys aren't ready.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I always tell them Dorian to go to IMDb dot
com for our guests. But it says here that in
just in terms of his previous credits seventy nine and
then upcoming, it says five. When I tell you, that's
why I said, Like, Dorian, when I saw you on
dream On, like, first of all, I got really teary
because I was like, oh.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
My god, I was in class with him.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
That's my friend.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Yeah was, and but Dorian was a star. Like Dorian
is not just a great actor, He's an inter He
knows how to entertain.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
And that's what I love.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Again, Dorian, I love you more in drama. Yea, I
know you as comedy.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
But yeah, yeah, well what what what had happened? Tracy
was as soon as I got to LA, first of all,
was doing I was still doing plays and whatnot in
the Bay Area for many many years San Jose Rep
Berkeley Shakespeare Children's Theater. But I was out there for years,
and then finally I kept auditioning for different parts and
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then what have you, and doing different parts in LA
and so my wife was just like, you know what,
we need to move out there. And so that's what
we did, packed up and moved. Didn't know anyone out here.
Did the waiter bartender thing for like six months, and
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all of the the waiters and the bartenders and everything.
Everybody was an actor. And so you know, to surround
yourself with people like that who can tell you, oh,
this is what you do. You know, check out this magazine,
go to actors, you know, backstage and and whatnot, and
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and give you different auditions. So that's what I did
for six months, and I landed dream On. But I
did a couple of other things before that. But yeah,
I was you. I was so new and green to
the game that when I went in five times for
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uh dream On five times and what had happened? This
is a great story too. I'm sorry talking so much.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
You today.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Okay, yea, it is all about me, so okay, So
this is what happened. So I get here, I'm already
thinking I'm a star and you can't put me down
or anything. I don't have no credits, but hey, I
am a star. And so they were telling me at
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the restaurant to sign up for some background work, but
I'm a star, really okay, So I do this and
the first time I go out, I kind of sat
around and they were going telling me going here there,
and I'm like, this is not for me. So I
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tell the agency man, I'm not so then so they
called me after that and say they have a role
specifically for me. Am I all alright, I feel So
the role that they had was this camera operator opposite
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of one of the lead characters. And so every scene
and I have no idea why scene that they put
me in, they either cut the scene or they took
me out of it for one reason or another. And
so at the end of the day the day, I
really didn't shoot anything. And so the next day I
really did have an audition for a movie, a big movie,
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and I'm like, I can't come back. They're like, no,
you have to come back. You're established. I go, no,
everything you shot I'm not in. And so we went
back and forth, but I was like, I'm not coming back,
and I didn't come back. So fast forward six months later,
I have this audition in this warehouse and I get
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in and I'm like, hmm, this looks really familiar. So
come to find out. It's the set of dream On
and the camera operator I was playing was the camera
operator for Eddie Charles, the guy that I replaced on
the show Wow, that I replaced on the show five auditions,
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and I was like, Brian, Brian ben Ben who stars.
I was like, I don't know. He goes, I'm telling you,
you got this. Your life is about to change, and
onenot you got this, and so sure enough they call
me shortly after. But I literally replaced the guy that
I was the camera operator for that character. It's so funny,
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so it was meant for you.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
It's one of Spruce his favorite shows, definitely, like I
I love watching you when we went to school, but
to watch you on TV, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
And then just to follow right because when you talk
about the Bay Area, you know Telita Smith and Terry
Vaughan those of my old dogs.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Yes, and Kalita.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Day one of her career, she was doing a David
David Talbert was doing his first film play, telling It
like It Is in DC.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
The producer was my friend.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
He called me and said, I need you to replace
a guy, so come see the play. I go see
the play. I don't see anything but Kalita Smith. Kalita
walked on that stage.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Right, it was like, is that's.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
My new best friend. That's my new friend.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
And from that day on we have been inseparable. So
Kalita was like, you know, she would report back to
me and tell me all the goings on with Dory
Wilson until.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
We got so funny. Me and Kalida go way way back.
When first started out. We were both on Sister's Sister.
I played Jacka's boyfriend and she played Tim Reid's girlfriend,
and then they broke up. We all broke up, and
then we kind of got together a little bit on
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the show. But fast forward, you know, in the cut
she plays my love love interest, but then we got
married on the sho show. Yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Guys created a nice platform for Bounce.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Oh thank you, thank you. Yeah, we really did. They
only had a couple of other shows that really kind
of took off, but we got in there. We did
eight seasons in the cut, so it was a beautiful thing.
But it was so much work, Tracy. It was we
did thirteen episodes in eleven days.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
I'm done.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Wrapped your head around that. It's the craziest thing. Thirteen
episodes in eleven days, and I was the lead of
the show, so I had anywhere from fourteen to seventeen
scenes a day. So this is my typical day. Would
I would go to the gym at five am. I
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would be on set at seven am. From seven to
like ten thirty, sometimes longer, sometimes less, I'm on set.
And so then I ran home home and started trying
to learn these lines for the next day. Around one
o'clock one thirty, I'm like, At three o'clock, I'm like,
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oh shit, I gotta learn these lines. Three o'clock, five o'clock,
I'm back at the gym, and the whole thing starts
all over again. And so by the fourth day you
kind of got it and you're in that rhythm. But
it is it's exhausting. But you know, the one stiver
lining gold lining is that I made my money for
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the year in those eleven days, right, that part so
enabled me to do other things, other work and whatnot.
But so you know, I sucked it up, and you
know it was a big boy and like, you can
do this. But it made it so easy to work
with people like Khalitia Smith and John Marshall Jones l
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who you know, I have a history with on the Parkers,
who my son on the show. You know, all of
that that chemistry that you already bring in, it makes
it so much easier. So we played off each other
and we you know, just just had fun. So the
writers did a great job in writing, putting those words
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on the page, but then we would bring them to
life by just playing with each other and whatnot. A
lot of stuff's improbmed.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
It was I thought, like, you know, you watch shows
like Cheers, right and Sam and Diana chasing after each other,
all these little undertones, but right to see you and Monique,
I thought it was brilliant because the writers were really great,
because you never got tired of her Shenanikins, because we
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all knew he's not taking you son, he not, I hate,
but would ride every week some way and it never
got boring and never got tired. I remember Rob Garr
called me up and he was like, Casey, guess who
I'm I'm well, it's not an understudy, Rod.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
I was trying to think of the word as well.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Yeah, yeah, I forgot about it, but Rod.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
And so that's when I was in LA and I
came to see you on set and I was like, like,
everybody loved the Parkers.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
How many seasons did you guys go?
Speaker 3 (25:30):
We is six six seasons, one hundred and ten episodes.
It was. It's a memorable, remarkable experience in my life
that I will never forget. And I don't know if
it's going to be matched by any but I've had
wonderful experience on other shows. But the chemistry that we
had it was it was literally lame with your friends
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all day and you still got a paycheck. You know,
you cannot beat that, now, Yeah, you guys to do I.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Watched every single episode. I was a fan. This is
before remember they had the VH recording. I used to
record it on the tape.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Absolutely gonna all I have boxes of tapes. I'm like,
what am I doing with these? You know, get them
converted or something. But yeah, absolutely, But yeah, it was
a really good time. And half of the stuff that
you guys didn't see it was the funniest stuff ever.
They had to separate me and Monique half of the time.
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It was just yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
And I love her. She was so amazing.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
I have to I just want to spit out some
credits because I love doing this.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
But you guys ahead ahead, I am, I am.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Well, let me just say, mister and missus Smith, I
coached Damon John's get Out.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Oh my god, that is so funny. It's a it's
a small world.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
And then I would love to have Damon because we
have stories. But I introduced Damon. He took me out
to LA to have these meetings, and I introduced him
to my friend Isle Davis. You know, she was a
VP of casting for ABC Primetime at the time.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Okay and so sweet, and we had a meeting with her.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
And then years later they were putting together Shark Tank
and they were Damon and the rest is history.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Wow, that's amazing. That's a good story.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
And but this is you know, oh my god, wait
till you read my book. I have to throw some
stuff away. But and y'all, Home Improvement, Murphy Brown, one
of my favorite shows. Seinfeld, the Fresh Prince of bel Air,
marsh Sister Sister Friends, Mister.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
North African American on Friends.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Had to be before I.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Yeah, yeah, it was. I had a reoccurring role playing
Chandler's boss. But the we forgot that is yeah, the
way that I got the role was the executive producers
are the same executive producers we had for dream On.
Oh yeah, Marta Kaufman, David Crane, Kevin Bright. And so
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they had hired an actor to play his boss and
it was an older cat and it didn't quite work
out or whatever. So they're like, who can we get
at the last minute. Yeah, at the last minute, and
so they called me up and that's how I got
the role.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Jerry.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Can I just tell you there was so many times
when I was casting that I would reach out to
your people because I respect the business even with my friends,
right say that, but I couldn't cast you because you
were on a series or you know your name. Listen,
when I was casting, like, there's certain people that I
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their name out because I was like, I have a relationship,
I can call them up.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
The series kind of locked you in for a minute.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Absolutely, yeah, because I was doing film, a lot of
film back then. But and and when your name would
come up, I'd be like, they're like, do you know
Dorian Wilson.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
I'm like, I went to school with Dorian. I know
He's like, oh my god, call him up. Call Dorian
right in.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
I want to stuff. I want to change through the world.
Though that was a great experience.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Oh my god, I want to go, you guys, Tyler
Perry House of Pain.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Step in the movie which I didn't do that when
there's another step in.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Oh my God, The Miller's Stop by my Neighbor, the
Family Weekend, Toughler Interested, Oh my god, so much work doan?
Let's talk about because less fast forward to present day.
You are so established and recognized and revered in this industry,
(30:10):
and you are so consistent. You have a body of
work and continue to work. What is it? What do
you feel keeps you motivated? Inspired? And now I'm pretty
sure I was putting this out there. We're writing, we
might be directing, producing, But what keeps you going after
(30:33):
not seventy three you guys, that would be seventy eight
so far on IMDb dot com credits.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
That's crazy? What keeps me motivated? Keeping a roof over
my head? That part?
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Okay, that part.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
I attribute a lot of my success by my support system,
surrounding myself with amazing, positive family and really really good friends.
I know so many people, but the really really good
friends in my life have been in my life for
like over thirty years. So these are the people that
(31:18):
when I'm starting out, and even if I did an
orphan commercial like Roach commercial, they'd be like, oh my god,
You're the next demsel.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
You know.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
It was all that, And so you know, you're rejected
so much in this business. It can beat you down,
you know. But so you need people in your corner
who's going to be uplifting and not be like, Okay,
well you get them next time, but you know, really
get in there and help you with that. So that
that was a very strong foundation for my career. And
(31:51):
also I try to keep these relationships when you go
from show to show to show that your demeanor, your
work ethic and everything that follows you, you know, whether
you want to act like a divo or a devo
or whatever. But I appreciate everybody that I work with,
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and so I think that has a lot to do
with it as well. And you never know that little
person at the bottom of the total ball where they're
going to be in a couple of years. And that's
happened several times where I've had pa who are executive
producers now called me back and said, Hey, I remember
how nice you were to me, blah blah blah. So
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you know, all of that place a factor in it.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
So well, I want to tell you.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
This because we only have two minutes, and I want
you to give.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Eight minutes. Two minutes is all we have right now.
That's it, and you're going to give actors tip.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
But I want to say this about relationships. You are
absolutely positively correct. Angela Yee when she got on The
Breakfast Club, all to congratulate her, and I asked her, well,
that was when she first got on, But when we
got the podcast almost three years ago, I heart wanted
(33:11):
her to be my first guest and I was like, oh, I.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Know, Angela.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Ever I called Angela up and I was like oh,
and she was like, yeah, Tracy, I will come on
the show, no problem.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
And I was like, thank you, Angela.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
She was like, Tracy, you came on Ciphersound show on
serious Radio when I was a PA. You were the
nicest person. You treated me like a person. I was like,
why is she talking to me? I'm a PA.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
She said.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
From that day on, she was like, Tracy, whatever you want.
She was my first guest on the podcast.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Wow, that's such a great story. It's amazing what people remember.
You know. I love I absolutely love when I meet
fans or people that know me on the street and said, hey,
I remember you from seven years ago or whenever we
were in the grocery store blah blah blah, and you
were so nice to me little daughter. You know, stories
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like that. It's just like, oh, okay, I be good.
You know, it was a good day or whatever. But
the flip side of that is, y'all, if we have
a bad day, you know, we're we are humid. You
know that one encounter sometimes makes all the difference in
the world and your perception of that actor or whatever.
(34:23):
But you know, it just might have been a bad day.
You know, I don't ever deliberately just be like, hey,
you know, I'm yeah, Simon autograss. They're taking pictures and
blah blah blah blah. You know, so who you are,
you're going to throw that out there, but you know
it does happen, So no, it does.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
But I can honestly say this, like, and that's what's
so beautiful is that for me, you are the same
Dorian that I met in nineteen eighty. For me, in
September nineteen eighty when I went to school.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
And you why are you dating us? Why are you
putting that out there?
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Okay, I don't know about your I don't know about your.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
History and Wikipedia, but they got dates.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
In mine right right right? They have me a year younger,
so I'll take it.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yeah, I'm a year older than you, so you're not. Yes,
I am what year were you born? Sixty two?
Speaker 3 (35:18):
So I said, they have me a year younger Wikipedia, right,
what I was like, you don't do that? But anyway, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Well give them a tell them, tell him during whatever
you feel they need to know because you drop some diamonds.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Oh die, No, you know, just if this is what
you want to do, if this is what you enjoyed doing,
do it. You know. I think a lot of people
go in for the notoriety or the money or whatever,
but you have to have a passion in your heart.
You know. I would do this for free. I'm glad
I don't have to, but crazy, you know. Yeah, it
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is something I love doing, and I keep working at it.
It never stops. I never stopped trying to grow, you know.
I learned little things as I go along. I work
with different people and I've watched them, you know, and
so that's that's kind of it. I just I thank
God for my longevity and to be able to work
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and to do what I love to do, you know,
and get paid for it.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
And I just want to say this before we bring
on the students, that we have two actors who are
going to ask a question for you. So my next chapter,
this is what I believe is directing full time.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
And playing with my friends. That's what I feel like
my characters.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
And because look, look, Tracy, anyway.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Get your head down because I'm saving youse up when
we get off the phone anyway, because.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Of the strike.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
But Dorian, I have to say this because I've never
admitted this to anyone, and directors, I would be in
casside sessions reading.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
I read with all the actors all the time.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
I love reading, right, and directors would turn around and
look at me.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Be like, are you an actress? And I go no, no,
I'm not an actress at all, journey right.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
So I have to admit it on my podcast in
front of Spruce Elsa and Andy.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Yes I did act at Dorry knows.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
And a brilliant actress. That is so crazy. I don't
know why you don't own that. You were so good, Tracy,
just natural and you know, your personality just shines. It
really does.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
And when I tell you, I love me some Dory
and Wilson, I'm so glad that you are still in
my life.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
And when I write this.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
I you know, I did write about the donut holes
altho though that weed is legal down so Dorry and
I you just spoke weed and go to Dugan Dodos
and get a bed full of donut holes.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Because it's legal now. But that was that's what we were.
We were young, and that's what we were talking to
you on the low. Now you could listen.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
I walked down the stre I live in Brooklyn and
there are two spots in my in my neighborhood and like.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
I'm like, yo, they really so it blows me. And
I just have to say this. I was in Oakland
for my birthday two years ago, go by Lake Marrin
and this woman had a vat of weed. I was
with my mother, so you know, I had to play
it off. But when I tell you, my body went
into convulsions and I was like, wait, hold up, is
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this real? And she was like kid.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
I was like, oh my god, oh my god, right
right right, But we had we had.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
The vested times and and and what I love more
than anything is that we are still in communication. And
when I can't even tell you, Dorian, for every person
that would come and you know, Dorian, Dorian, I'd be
like a trillionaire today.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Yeah. Yeah, but I love it. Likewise, I love it.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
So I'm going to bring Elsa Lathan, our co executive
producer on Spirited Actor.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Elsa, who do we have some questions? Can I just
say that was priceless, priceless, thank you, thank you?
Speaker 3 (39:25):
All right, Yeah, that was a great little memory lane
trip there.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Yeah, that was great. Yeah. So today on for our
Q and A, we have two of our wonderful Spirited
after alumni. We have mister Sam Bryce, you can come
on camera. Sam, and we have miss Maya Bello. Hey, guys,
and Maya's in l A, Dorian.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Sam is on the East coast of US, so so
Elsa always ladies first. So Maya you're up first with
your question. Okay. Yeah, So I just want to say hi, oh,
thank you. I was gonna say I love to your sister. Sister.
That's when I was taking to you.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
This is really fun.
Speaker 6 (40:13):
So you said that, you know, training is very important
I've trained with Tracy, and I just wanted to know
your training actors. What were some of the things you
thought were really important to like teach them for them
to practice.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Wow, that's a really interesting question. Definitely cold reading, which
I'm not good at, but being able to pick up
you know, any literature or whatever, because a lot of times,
well not a lot of times, but there are some
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times where you go in for a feature or a
role or whatever that requires you to be a certain
way or whatever, and on the spot they'll ask you,
you know what, I think you would be more suited
for this character. So it's really important to be able
to to pick that up, to grasp the you know,
what the kind of root of the character is and
(41:10):
be able to run with it. And Uh, that to
me is something you keep in your pocket and you
know you'll be able to pull it out. The other
thing is just especially work ethic, you know, being on time, uh,
knowing your your dialogue, your whatever you're you're auditioning for.
(41:32):
Put put in the time, you know, uh, making sure
you have your your head shots and put some money
into your headshots. Everybody, like not everybody, but a lot
of young people that have come up to me is like, oh,
I got money for headshots and whatnot. No, but you
got money to have a drink at the bar, you
(41:52):
know on Saturday, Friday and Saturday. But you know you
can use that money, you know. But all of these
things important for your to your package, and you know,
put those things in place before you do anything else.
Have your resume updated. Uh, even if you you know
you don't have much to put on it, just be
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creative enough that you're not gonna get hot. I have
I put our horseback ride and blah blah blah. I
got picked for the the the sidekick of the lead
actor who was a cowboy. So at the end of
it we run off, we go off of the.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
Sunset and he is this galloping and I could ride.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
A horse loop from that bitch anyway, So be able
to back up your stuff, you know, to that point.
So anyway, I hope that answered your question.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
No, that's excellent, excellent, Okay, okay, Elsa, thank you, thank you,
and mister Sam right.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
Next, it's a pleasure to speak with you, mister Wilson Chevy.
Speaker 7 (43:08):
So question positive or negative, what would you say is
the most impactful moment in your career.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
Oh, I still am in awe of the whole process.
When I auditioned for dream On, you know, I'm a
new actor to LA, didn't know anybody. I did a
couple of things, but to get a series regular in
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six months that I had been here and I was
I was so green and new to the business that
I was still bartending at the time and so I'm
going to the set and trying to cover my shifts
at the restaurant. People were like, why the hell are
you still here, and I'm like, I just I got
(44:04):
that first check and I was like, I'm out of here.
I quit. So I was doing dream On and Sister
Sister at the same time, literally, and they worked around
my schedule, so that that was very impactful that for
my bank account and my house. But yeah, so I
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would say that and HBO.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
HBO is a beast. I used to work for HBO, so.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
That, oh nice. Yeah, way ahead of time. I couldn't
even get it out wing. The show was way ahead
of its time. So the first sex in the City,
you know, it was like I get this script and
I'm like these scripts and I'm like, I have to
sleep with a different woman every week. But and I
gotta pay trick.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
I'm I am in leading man right, Dorian, thank you, Elsa,
thank you for thank you for the actors and the questions.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
We're going to come back.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
We're going to come back on the Spirited Actor Podcast
with Class in Session where you'll see them Performancen and
else is going to read the narrative.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
So stay tuned, don't.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
Go anywhere when we come back on the Spirited Actor
Podcast with me Tracy Moore. You're blessed to have Dorian
Wilson still with us and we'll do Class and Session.
Welcome back to the Spirited Actor Podcast.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
With me, Tracy Moore.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
You are so blessed Dorian Wilson is still with us,
and we are going to go. Yes, we are going
to go into Class and Session where Elsa will introduce
our Spirit Actor alumni.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
They will perform a scene and Dorian will be so
gracious and give them feedback.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
Okay, so.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
That's another show. Okay, you a good one. So today
on Class and Session we have we are welcoming back
mister Sam Bryce, Welcome back, Sam, Hey Sam, how are you?
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And miss Maya Bell Welcome back Maya.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
Thank you as she is Maya.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
So today's scene is of all the places written by
Leon Amoto. Interior Grand Lux Country Club evening. The ballroom
is vibrant with purple neon strobe lights shining and beaming
off the huge glass chandelier over the dance floor, which
is packed. Everyone is turned up. It's that kind of
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wedding jacket edges. Let's get married, just drop so. Mary
heads over to the dance floor to join the party.
When her and Ben locked eyes again.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
I'm sorry I had to come over ahead and say something.
All right, I'm Ben, I know who you are.
Speaker 6 (47:17):
Congratulations, this is beautiful.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Mary's taking a back, surprised. She also realizes they're still
holding hands since they greeted hello. She quickly drops her hand.
Speaker 3 (47:33):
Thank you. So what did you come here with?
Speaker 6 (47:39):
Oh, Angie's my sister. I'm her day tonight, okay, the
neighbor exactly.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
The tension in their locked eyes towards each other is undeniable.
Mary notices that his wife is looking for him as
the song is appropriate. I'm gonna go grab a drink.
I think your wife is looking for you. He just
stares at her as if he didn't hear what she
just said. Mary heads off towards the bar, but he stills.
Speaker 7 (48:10):
Look, I know this is so inappropriate and I would
never ever do this, but I've been locked doing you
since I saw you at the church. I hope I
get to see you again.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
Ironically, Mary feels it as wrong as it is.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
She hesitates, but me too.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
Mary notices that his wife has found him and it
is on her way over because she snaps out of it.
Congratulations again, She smiles and heads off. He watches until
he's interrupted by his new wife, who intimately surprises him
from behind. She hugs on him as the DJ gets.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
On the mic.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
Can we get Ben in his beautiful new wife Shauna
to the dance floor, let's go see. Oh nice job
you guys. Okay, Dorian, it's you.
Speaker 3 (49:12):
I have nothing. No, it was really good. I really
thought you were coming back. I was like, okay, we'll
keep going. No, you guys did a great job. The
only thing that I could think of this, Sammy, just
be a little bit more aware that your wife might
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be somewhere close by and to kind of regurgitate him,
to get all this stuff up, you know, knowing that
she can be behind you at any second. But I
love the approach and everything else. You were. You're great.
(49:54):
I don't have any you know, bad things to say.
You were engaged. I loved the coyness. Yeahcy, thank you.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
I mean I that like, I'm like you.
Speaker 1 (50:11):
That's a specific note that I would have given to
because that would have added on a little bit to
the urgency of like, let me let you know I
like you and we could get together, but not in
front of my wife.
Speaker 3 (50:23):
Exactly exactly that you did. Beautiful job.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
Yeah, Sam, and these Sam and Maya are speared actor.
Oh gee, so thank you, say thank you, Maya, and
I just want to tell you really quickly.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
Dorian Sam was cast in Soul Santa, which is a
film that I cast with Elsa, and the character was
twenty seven I believe to thirty.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
He was nerdy, he was tall and thin. This was
the character breakdown.
Speaker 1 (50:59):
Wow else suggested Sam come in, and you know, if
it was according to the breakdown, we're true, Sam wouldn't
have come in. But I was like, Sam is talented. Yes,
that's a great idea. Bottom in Sam got cast. Terry
Vought love that.
Speaker 3 (51:16):
Yeah, I love that when you can stink outside the
box and and just go for it. I've been cast
as an elderly white woman who was very articulate and
whatnot who they sent me in anyway, and I got
the role. So but I love those stories. Yeah, great job, guys, Dorian.
Speaker 1 (51:35):
Thank you so much. I can't even begin to thank
you for coming on this show. All the truths of me.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
I thank you. I couldn't wait because I was like, Dory,
I can't wait Wilson on the show.
Speaker 3 (51:48):
So I've saved some nuggets though, I've saved something.
Speaker 2 (51:52):
Thank you for the other skeletons, like.
Speaker 3 (51:55):
The fact that I had the biggest crush on you
and you didn't give me the time of day because
you're interested in two other white guys.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
All right, can we talk about something else?
Speaker 3 (52:07):
But I.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
Couldn't like you.
Speaker 3 (52:11):
I needed Yes, what's this?
Speaker 2 (52:13):
It was?
Speaker 3 (52:18):
It was the right thing to do.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
It was and you told me. She was like, Dorian
has a question on you. I was like, no, he
doesn't do it. George, just like me.
Speaker 3 (52:28):
You knew I did you do well?
Speaker 2 (52:33):
Dorian? We loved spirited podcast and Dorian, before you leave,
can you do it? I know you coming out? Yes
I do.
Speaker 3 (52:48):
Uh, It's it's called a Wesley Christmas wedding, and it
is the second part in a trilogy that we're doing
to introduce the Wesleys to America, and I am having
so much fun. It is done by Optic Productions, Brie
and Chuck West. I don't know if you know them,
but if you don't, you need to get to know
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them first class all the way. Just very intuitive, respectful.
Brie wrote this beautiful sequel to the first one out
of knowing uh us as actors and our personalities and whatnot.
(53:32):
So she's incorporated this in our second one. So we
got to play our strengths. One of the young ladies,
Lauren Lott, she's she's a beautiful vocalist and she's singing
in it. And TC Carson is is in it as well,
who's singing. Jasmine Guy plays my wife. But I'm so
proud of this work. It's a it's a Christmas movie,
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but there's a story behind it, and everybody's storyline is
so import Horton and and you're gonna walk away and
it'll make you think. But it's a great feel good movie.
But we are shooting the third one in after the
New Year. We usually shoot in November, but because of
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the strike. They pushed it to in the January beginning
of February. But we're shooting in South Africa. Oh yeah,
so I'm so aware of South Africa. I think Johannesburg,
but I'm not positive. So they haven't gave us all
the particulars. But we keep going. Yeah, so we're doing
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that and then hopefully, well not hopefully, it's going to
become a series The Wesleys.
Speaker 1 (54:42):
They will the Wesleys Lady and Keleman look Out for
the Wesleys starring Dory and Wilson. Look Out for Anything
starring Dorian Wilson, because he is a stellar star and
he is the most humble person in the industry, and.
Speaker 2 (54:56):
He has seventy eight credits and more.
Speaker 4 (54:58):
Because I love that, I'm going to get a T
shirt that says that writing.
Speaker 2 (55:06):
It, I love you so much, feeling all the tea
on me. Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (55:18):
When we come back on the Spirited Actor podcast with
me Tracy Moore, I'm giving Cassidy Arkins.
Speaker 2 (55:24):
That woman right there.
Speaker 1 (55:26):
She introduced me to Spruce and that's how inside the
Black Box. She is the reason why I'm here, and
we'll be back and I'm going to give her and
all of you guys some love, and now we are going.
Speaker 2 (55:40):
To celebrate in Kudos Corner. Kudos Corner is.
Speaker 1 (55:44):
Where we celebrate spirited actors who are performing, got booked, directing, writing.
Speaker 2 (55:51):
We want to give them their flowers now.
Speaker 1 (55:55):
So in this week's Kudos Corner, we are celebrating Audia Gunza.
She is a Spirited actor alumni and actress, writer director.
She recently filmed a featured film, thirty and Dating, which
I coached her. The film will be released in twenty
twenty four, and I hear that there may be some
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series talk for her right now.
Speaker 2 (56:20):
She also starred in and assisted directing an off Broadway play.
Speaker 1 (56:24):
She has credits on New Amsterdam and Just Like That
and a short film Rebellious. When she's not in front
of the camera, Audia keeps herself tuned in and engaged
by working productions and on sets like Just Like That,
American horror story, New Amsterdam and Fueled. She also is
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currently writing her own featured film, Kudos to Audio Gonzales
and now It's time to give love. People don't say
what they mean, and they don't mean what they say.
You have to watch them and observe their behavior. This
is what I stress to actors in the acting world.
(57:11):
But trust me when I tell you you can use
it in real life too, and it will save you
time and heartache. Milangelo says, when people show up, believe them.
A lot of times in life we give people the
benefit of the doubt, but when they tell us who
they are, believe it. Don't think you can change it.
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Don't think it's maybe this is just a moment. Trust
your instincts, trust your energy and what you feel. If
it's not conducive to lifting you up and making you
feel the best that you can feel, then it's not
for you. Learn to be able to determine what's good
(57:58):
for you and what it's not good for you and
save yourself a lot of time and a lot of hearty,
don't forget to look out for us on our new show,
Inside the Black Box. My co host will be Joe
the Legend Morton. It's going to be the Spirited Actor
Podcast on Steroids.
Speaker 2 (58:17):
We'll be streaming on the Crackle network. I'll keep you posted.
Speaker 1 (58:21):
Thank you for joining us on the Spirited Actor Podcast
with me Tracy Moore. I look forward to our next
Spirited Podcast.
Speaker 2 (58:29):
Thank you
Hello, and welcome to the Spirited Actor Podcast with me
Tracy Moore. I was a casting director for film and
TV and commercials for over thirty years. I transitioned to
a celebrity acting coach after I cast a film New
Jersey Drive with executive producer Spike Lee and director Nick Domez.
I auditioned every rapper from Biggie Smalls to Tupac, and
(00:34):
I realized that rappers and musical artists they needed help
transitioning to acting. My clients consist of musical artists from
Buster Rhymes to Eve, Missy Elliott, Angela Yee from The
Breakfast Club, and Vanessa Simmons, to name a few. I
also coach sports stars and host as well. I feel
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I have the best of both worlds. As a casting director,
I know exactly what they're looking for, and as an
acting coach, I can coach you to be remembered in
that room. Now I know, I know actors want to
get the job. I get that, But being remembered by
a casting director that is powerful. And now it's time
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for meditation of the day. Optimism is a perfectly legitimate
response to failure. Stephen King, failure is good. You don't
need to stay down all the time when you fall.
Les Brown has this saying where he says, when you fall,
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make sure you fall on your back so you can
look up and get up.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Something like that.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
In order for us and I just want to reiterate
the outstanding interview with Dorian Wilson and Dorian Echoes this.
You have to train, you have to work on your craft,
and in doing those things, you will eventually master and
be an expert in your craft. But it is imperative
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that you show up knowing the protocol and the verbiage.
That's what gives you the security, the confidence.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
To do this.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
When you know what you're doing. Don't think of anything
as a failure. There may be some hurdles, there may
be some obstacles, but nothing that you can't get through
or get passed. Never look at failure as something better,
as something that's preventing you from getting what it is
that you want. Failure is just a reminder that there's
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still more work to do and there's still more things
to learn.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Today.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I will make me a priority before we get started.
I'd like to remind everyone to look out for my
new show, Inside the Black Box.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I'll Welcome to the.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Spirited Actor Podcast with Me Network by far is going
to be the best show that I've ever had on
this podcast, and I'm going to tell you what the
best Okay, the pressure, no pressure. This our guest today.
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He is probably the only one that I would allow
to do the authorize autobiography of Tracy Moore if he
wanted to insert some things, because he truly does know me.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
As I have denied.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
In New York for years that I've ever acted in
or I've ever performed. Dorian Wilson is here to expose
the truth. Dorian Wilson is one of the best actors
in the entertainment business, most consistent, and my favorite actor.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
When I saw dream On on HBO and I saw
Dorian almost passed out because I went to school with Dorian.
We go to talk about all that. I want you
guys to sit back. I want you to get whatever
you document information on your.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Record on your phone, write it down.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
You are going to walk away with a treasure chest
of diamonds, emeralds, and pearls. Please put your hands together
for one of the most dynamic forces in this entertainment business.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
As an actor, Dorian, what there?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Well, thank you? Thank you? Are you talking about me?
All that was for me?
Speaker 2 (04:41):
All of it, Dorian.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
I wish that if I was a whole lot, you
get a whole lot on that.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
But thank you. I appreciate I How do you. It's
so good to see you.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
It's so good to see Dorian. I feel like it's
crazy right now. You still look the same except your.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
You like, where's where's your dreads up?
Speaker 1 (05:03):
But yeah, yeah, I cut him all off. I cut
him off and free, so you didn't have reads back then? No, no, no,
back then it was like I was messing with the
perm and just coming out of high school. But and
I went to school together at Pacific Conservatory of Performing
Arts in Santa Maria, California. And Santa Maria was put
on the map by Michael Jackson's trial, remember, right, okay, right,
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I think we had one cab one mall.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Maybe, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
But you were kind of used to it because you
were from San Luis, Bisbo and I.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Was Lompoke the other side. Yeah, yeah, so I was
definitely used to it. So I you know, I had
grew up there. My dad was in the Air Force,
so we had been on Vandenberg Air Force Base for many,
many years. Then we moved to Lompope, the big city,
and I went to school there and graduated from Lampokai
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and then went on to uh PCPA. Look you, I
bet you you don't know. When I was in the
eleventh grade, I saw a couple of plays at PCPA
and I was like, oh my god, that's that's what
I want to do. I can't I can't wait, blah
blah blah. So they held auditions for the upcoming year,
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and I'm like, let me get my admission in and
whatnot and everything. I went through the whole audition process,
say my little song and everything, and only to get
a letter saying we don't accept anybody until they after
they graduate. But here's your acceptance letter right saying when
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you graduate, you don't have to audition again. And you
come right to us and and you're.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
In okay because I had to audition.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Of course you did. Of course you did. I still auditioned,
but it was in the eleventh grade.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Though, oh my god, can I just.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Huh? I said, isn't that a great story?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Though? That is a great story, you know what. It
kind of reminds me of a Billy Porter story. Before COVID.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
They had a CSA Awards ceremony here in New York
at Chelsea, and Billy Porter talked about how he.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Was in high school.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
He snuck away from home, rode the train to Chicago
to audition for Meg Simon and they were like, oh
my god, you're amazing. And then he was like, I'm seventeen.
They were like, get out of here, go back home.
You can't write.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
And then.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Circle comes Megan has him audition and they reconnect because
he thanked her for an award and it was amazing.
So that's a that's a oh my god. Yeah, okay,
what what what?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
You guys don't know? This was a two year program.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
At the second year, I got pneumonia and bronchitis at
the same time. Unbeknownst to me, I found out through
Dorrian that I had been cast in Greece and I
was cast in the Cheeta Rivera role. But I was
unable to make it back to second year. And it
was the worst thing because you.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Know, I felt like it was no I felt left me.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
I didn't love me. Do you know how many there
were of us.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Who Dorian Wilson and Tracy wore wore.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
The entire program, y'all. Is that crazy? But you know
it was what it was, and we represented though.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Yeah we did.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
We did.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Because go ahead, Dorian.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I was just going to say, there was like literally
out of the forty fifty students whatever, five students that
got cast out of our class that made it to
the main stage or productions or whatever, and we were
two of them.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
And you know what, Dorian, I have to I have
to question this, like I think about this right because
I'm going to piggyback off this story that Dory and
I were talking about. We had a singing class and
this woman Bet Miller. She was the voice of the Chipmunks,
one of the chipmunks, right, But we had gotten all right,
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I got kicked out of class and then they sent
Dorrian to keep me company.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
So we were sitting on the stairs.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Wait, you can't negate all the other stuff that led
up to.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Oh no, okay, let's tell this story.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Let me recap. Yeah, we have this class. It was
a singing class and they partnered up with you know,
each of the students and whatnot, and me and Tracy
were paired together the only Yeah, so I don't know
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if that's the reason, but I'm pretty sure it was.
But anyway, we sang.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
You are the sunshine of my life.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Right, so Tracy can really sing. I kind of just
fell behind her, but you know, I could carry it
to him. But anyway, Tracy was doing all these riffs
and flows and ebbs and whatnot, and so afterwards, I'll
let you pick it up from there.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
So I don't remember the you say your question because
I remember that I'm so did to that that's what
got to be kicked out of class, right, Yeah, well.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
The question was so Beth then proceeds to ask everybody
their critique in the class, and you know, it's supposed
to be constructive criticians criticism, and one of the comments
was that we sound too black to ethnic and why
do we always have to, you know, do all the
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runs and whatnot.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
And then a white student said, she raised her hand
and she said, why do you guys always sing black songs?
And I said, why do you always sing white songs?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
And then Beth.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Said, Tracy, why don't you go outside and take a
moment and get some air, right, And then like two
minutes later, I see Dorian next to me.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I'm like, why why are you here? And I know, sorry,
but I And also there were words like.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Militant that were you know about absolutely, but this was
my my thing was I am an actress, so look
at me as an actress before you look at me
as a black actress because the other thing is dory
and I got cast all the obvious. In Little Abner,
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we were the African dancers Helen Keller.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
We were.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Yes, yes, yes, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
So whatever was black, they stuck us.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
But they couldn't do that for the world premiere because
there wasn't.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
A breakdown of color.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
It was just actors and monologues and you know, us
threading stories together, so there was no color. But my
question was that day that we were sitting out, Randy Miler,
who was one of the teachers.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Passed by.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
He came over and asked us what happened? So we
started well, I started telling him in my militant way,
and then Dorian was there with me supporting.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
And then right after.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
That we were allowed a little bit after we were
allowed to audition because they said first year students, which
we were. And I just want to say too, we
started out at one hundred twenty five, I believe students
and they Okay, well, I remember being on the main stage.
Do you remember Michael and Lauren the actress. Yeah, so
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Lauren moved to New York. So I used to see
Lauren all the time. But Michael and Lauren were feared
by the students.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Oh wow, they were feared.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Because they had you know, they just they were divas
and you know, but they told But Lauren said to me,
I didn't even know Lauren, he said to me, he said,
look around, look around the theater.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
I looked around.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
He said, there are one hundred and twenty five people here.
Look around because they won't be here by the time,
you know, we start and whatever.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
And it did. It wheedled down, you know right.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Oh yeah, we had our.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Schedule was so demanding.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
So demanding, sun up to sundown. And then I had
a like an hour drive to get back home to
Longpoke from Santa Maria. It wasn't quite that long. But
you know, our day was so fulfilled, filled singing, dance, acting, mind,
just the whole work, the lights, you know that we
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had to work behind the scenes, all of that. Yeah,
and so that it filled the entire day. So yeah,
it was exhausting, but it made.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Us well, yes, yes, it gave us great work ethic.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Absolutely, it was such a great foundation. Yeah, and it's
one of the things that I tell I used to
teach acting through eight through eighteen year olds and people
told me all the time, you know, oh, I'm I'm
such a great actor, or I'm a comedian and blah
blah blah and all this other stuff. And I'm like, so,
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where did you go to school? They're like, well, I
didn't go to school, but I just know, you know,
I know, and blah blah blah. And it's it's the
craziest thing. It just doesn't come out of nowhere, you know.
So I tell them to you know, you've got to
get your training first. You know. You could be the
right place at the right time. You can even get
that role, you know, and have the best loop, but
if you don't have anything to sustain it, if you
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don't have you know, your foundation laid and you know,
know exactly what you're doing, you're going to be a
flash in the pad, you know. So you know, people
out there, get your training first, you so you are
prepared when you do get that moment for you know life,
camera action you're on and then you'll be going onto
your next project.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Absolutely, and you guys aren't ready.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
I always tell them Dorian to go to IMDb dot
com for our guests. But it says here that in
just in terms of his previous credits seventy nine and
then upcoming, it says five. When I tell you, that's
why I said, Like, Dorian, when I saw you on
dream On, like, first of all, I got really teary
because I was like, oh.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
My god, I was in class with him.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
That's my friend.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Yeah was, and but Dorian was a star. Like Dorian
is not just a great actor, He's an inter He
knows how to entertain.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
And that's what I love.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Again, Dorian, I love you more in drama. Yea, I
know you as comedy.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
But yeah, yeah, well what what what had happened? Tracy
was as soon as I got to LA, first of all,
was doing I was still doing plays and whatnot in
the Bay Area for many many years San Jose Rep
Berkeley Shakespeare Children's Theater. But I was out there for years,
and then finally I kept auditioning for different parts and
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then what have you, and doing different parts in LA
and so my wife was just like, you know what,
we need to move out there. And so that's what
we did, packed up and moved. Didn't know anyone out here.
Did the waiter bartender thing for like six months, and
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all of the the waiters and the bartenders and everything.
Everybody was an actor. And so you know, to surround
yourself with people like that who can tell you, oh,
this is what you do. You know, check out this magazine,
go to actors, you know, backstage and and whatnot, and
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and give you different auditions. So that's what I did
for six months, and I landed dream On. But I
did a couple of other things before that. But yeah,
I was you. I was so new and green to
the game that when I went in five times for
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uh dream On five times and what had happened? This
is a great story too. I'm sorry talking so much.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
You today.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Okay, yea, it is all about me, so okay, So
this is what happened. So I get here, I'm already
thinking I'm a star and you can't put me down
or anything. I don't have no credits, but hey, I
am a star. And so they were telling me at
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the restaurant to sign up for some background work, but
I'm a star, really okay, So I do this and
the first time I go out, I kind of sat
around and they were going telling me going here there,
and I'm like, this is not for me. So I
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tell the agency man, I'm not so then so they
called me after that and say they have a role
specifically for me. Am I all alright, I feel So
the role that they had was this camera operator opposite
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of one of the lead characters. And so every scene
and I have no idea why scene that they put
me in, they either cut the scene or they took
me out of it for one reason or another. And
so at the end of the day the day, I
really didn't shoot anything. And so the next day I
really did have an audition for a movie, a big movie,
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and I'm like, I can't come back. They're like, no,
you have to come back. You're established. I go, no,
everything you shot I'm not in. And so we went
back and forth, but I was like, I'm not coming back,
and I didn't come back. So fast forward six months later,
I have this audition in this warehouse and I get
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in and I'm like, hmm, this looks really familiar. So
come to find out. It's the set of dream On
and the camera operator I was playing was the camera
operator for Eddie Charles, the guy that I replaced on
the show Wow, that I replaced on the show five auditions,
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and I was like, Brian, Brian ben Ben who stars.
I was like, I don't know. He goes, I'm telling you,
you got this. Your life is about to change, and
onenot you got this, and so sure enough they call
me shortly after. But I literally replaced the guy that
I was the camera operator for that character. It's so funny,
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so it was meant for you.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
It's one of Spruce his favorite shows, definitely, like I
I love watching you when we went to school, but
to watch you on TV, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
And then just to follow right because when you talk
about the Bay Area, you know Telita Smith and Terry
Vaughan those of my old dogs.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Yes, and Kalita.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Day one of her career, she was doing a David
David Talbert was doing his first film play, telling It
like It Is in DC.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
The producer was my friend.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
He called me and said, I need you to replace
a guy, so come see the play. I go see
the play. I don't see anything but Kalita Smith. Kalita
walked on that stage.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Right, it was like, is that's.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
My new best friend. That's my new friend.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
And from that day on we have been inseparable. So
Kalita was like, you know, she would report back to
me and tell me all the goings on with Dory
Wilson until.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
We got so funny. Me and Kalida go way way back.
When first started out. We were both on Sister's Sister.
I played Jacka's boyfriend and she played Tim Reid's girlfriend,
and then they broke up. We all broke up, and
then we kind of got together a little bit on
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the show. But fast forward, you know, in the cut
she plays my love love interest, but then we got
married on the sho show. Yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Guys created a nice platform for Bounce.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Oh thank you, thank you. Yeah, we really did. They
only had a couple of other shows that really kind
of took off, but we got in there. We did
eight seasons in the cut, so it was a beautiful thing.
But it was so much work, Tracy. It was we
did thirteen episodes in eleven days.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
I'm done.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Wrapped your head around that. It's the craziest thing. Thirteen
episodes in eleven days, and I was the lead of
the show, so I had anywhere from fourteen to seventeen
scenes a day. So this is my typical day. Would
I would go to the gym at five am. I
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would be on set at seven am. From seven to
like ten thirty, sometimes longer, sometimes less, I'm on set.
And so then I ran home home and started trying
to learn these lines for the next day. Around one
o'clock one thirty, I'm like, At three o'clock, I'm like,
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oh shit, I gotta learn these lines. Three o'clock, five o'clock,
I'm back at the gym, and the whole thing starts
all over again. And so by the fourth day you
kind of got it and you're in that rhythm. But
it is it's exhausting. But you know, the one stiver
lining gold lining is that I made my money for
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the year in those eleven days, right, that part so
enabled me to do other things, other work and whatnot.
But so you know, I sucked it up, and you
know it was a big boy and like, you can
do this. But it made it so easy to work
with people like Khalitia Smith and John Marshall Jones l
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who you know, I have a history with on the Parkers,
who my son on the show. You know, all of
that that chemistry that you already bring in, it makes
it so much easier. So we played off each other
and we you know, just just had fun. So the
writers did a great job in writing, putting those words
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on the page, but then we would bring them to
life by just playing with each other and whatnot. A
lot of stuff's improbmed.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
It was I thought, like, you know, you watch shows
like Cheers, right and Sam and Diana chasing after each other,
all these little undertones, but right to see you and Monique,
I thought it was brilliant because the writers were really great,
because you never got tired of her Shenanikins, because we
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all knew he's not taking you son, he not, I hate,
but would ride every week some way and it never
got boring and never got tired. I remember Rob Garr
called me up and he was like, Casey, guess who
I'm I'm well, it's not an understudy, Rod.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
I was trying to think of the word as well.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Yeah, yeah, I forgot about it, but Rod.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
And so that's when I was in LA and I
came to see you on set and I was like, like,
everybody loved the Parkers.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
How many seasons did you guys go?
Speaker 3 (25:30):
We is six six seasons, one hundred and ten episodes.
It was. It's a memorable, remarkable experience in my life
that I will never forget. And I don't know if
it's going to be matched by any but I've had
wonderful experience on other shows. But the chemistry that we
had it was it was literally lame with your friends
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all day and you still got a paycheck. You know,
you cannot beat that, now, Yeah, you guys to do I.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Watched every single episode. I was a fan. This is
before remember they had the VH recording. I used to
record it on the tape.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Absolutely gonna all I have boxes of tapes. I'm like,
what am I doing with these? You know, get them
converted or something. But yeah, absolutely, But yeah, it was
a really good time. And half of the stuff that
you guys didn't see it was the funniest stuff ever.
They had to separate me and Monique half of the time.
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It was just yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
And I love her. She was so amazing.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
I have to I just want to spit out some
credits because I love doing this.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
But you guys ahead ahead, I am, I am.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Well, let me just say, mister and missus Smith, I
coached Damon John's get Out.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Oh my god, that is so funny. It's a it's
a small world.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
And then I would love to have Damon because we
have stories. But I introduced Damon. He took me out
to LA to have these meetings, and I introduced him
to my friend Isle Davis. You know, she was a
VP of casting for ABC Primetime at the time.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Okay and so sweet, and we had a meeting with her.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
And then years later they were putting together Shark Tank
and they were Damon and the rest is history.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Wow, that's amazing. That's a good story.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
And but this is you know, oh my god, wait
till you read my book. I have to throw some
stuff away. But and y'all, Home Improvement, Murphy Brown, one
of my favorite shows. Seinfeld, the Fresh Prince of bel Air,
marsh Sister Sister Friends, Mister.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
North African American on Friends.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Had to be before I.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Yeah, yeah, it was. I had a reoccurring role playing
Chandler's boss. But the we forgot that is yeah, the
way that I got the role was the executive producers
are the same executive producers we had for dream On.
Oh yeah, Marta Kaufman, David Crane, Kevin Bright. And so
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they had hired an actor to play his boss and
it was an older cat and it didn't quite work
out or whatever. So they're like, who can we get
at the last minute. Yeah, at the last minute, and
so they called me up and that's how I got
the role.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Jerry.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Can I just tell you there was so many times
when I was casting that I would reach out to
your people because I respect the business even with my friends,
right say that, but I couldn't cast you because you
were on a series or you know your name. Listen,
when I was casting, like, there's certain people that I
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their name out because I was like, I have a relationship,
I can call them up.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
The series kind of locked you in for a minute.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Absolutely, yeah, because I was doing film, a lot of
film back then. But and and when your name would
come up, I'd be like, they're like, do you know
Dorian Wilson.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
I'm like, I went to school with Dorian. I know
He's like, oh my god, call him up. Call Dorian
right in.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
I want to stuff. I want to change through the world.
Though that was a great experience.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Oh my god, I want to go, you guys, Tyler
Perry House of Pain.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Step in the movie which I didn't do that when
there's another step in.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Oh my God, The Miller's Stop by my Neighbor, the
Family Weekend, Toughler Interested, Oh my god, so much work doan?
Let's talk about because less fast forward to present day.
You are so established and recognized and revered in this industry,
(30:10):
and you are so consistent. You have a body of
work and continue to work. What is it? What do
you feel keeps you motivated? Inspired? And now I'm pretty
sure I was putting this out there. We're writing, we
might be directing, producing, But what keeps you going after
(30:33):
not seventy three you guys, that would be seventy eight
so far on IMDb dot com credits.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
That's crazy? What keeps me motivated? Keeping a roof over
my head? That part?
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Okay, that part.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
I attribute a lot of my success by my support system,
surrounding myself with amazing, positive family and really really good friends.
I know so many people, but the really really good
friends in my life have been in my life for
like over thirty years. So these are the people that
(31:18):
when I'm starting out, and even if I did an
orphan commercial like Roach commercial, they'd be like, oh my god,
You're the next demsel.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
You know.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
It was all that, And so you know, you're rejected
so much in this business. It can beat you down,
you know. But so you need people in your corner
who's going to be uplifting and not be like, Okay,
well you get them next time, but you know, really
get in there and help you with that. So that
that was a very strong foundation for my career. And
(31:51):
also I try to keep these relationships when you go
from show to show to show that your demeanor, your
work ethic and everything that follows you, you know, whether
you want to act like a divo or a devo
or whatever. But I appreciate everybody that I work with,
(32:12):
and so I think that has a lot to do
with it as well. And you never know that little
person at the bottom of the total ball where they're
going to be in a couple of years. And that's
happened several times where I've had pa who are executive
producers now called me back and said, Hey, I remember
how nice you were to me, blah blah blah. So
(32:33):
you know, all of that place a factor in it.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
So well, I want to tell you.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
This because we only have two minutes, and I want
you to give.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Eight minutes. Two minutes is all we have right now.
That's it, and you're going to give actors tip.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
But I want to say this about relationships. You are
absolutely positively correct. Angela Yee when she got on The
Breakfast Club, all to congratulate her, and I asked her, well,
that was when she first got on, But when we
got the podcast almost three years ago, I heart wanted
(33:11):
her to be my first guest and I was like, oh, I.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Know, Angela.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Ever I called Angela up and I was like oh,
and she was like, yeah, Tracy, I will come on
the show, no problem.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
And I was like, thank you, Angela.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
She was like, Tracy, you came on Ciphersound show on
serious Radio when I was a PA. You were the
nicest person. You treated me like a person. I was like,
why is she talking to me? I'm a PA.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
She said.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
From that day on, she was like, Tracy, whatever you want.
She was my first guest on the podcast.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Wow, that's such a great story. It's amazing what people remember.
You know. I love I absolutely love when I meet
fans or people that know me on the street and said, hey,
I remember you from seven years ago or whenever we
were in the grocery store blah blah blah, and you
were so nice to me little daughter. You know, stories
(34:01):
like that. It's just like, oh, okay, I be good.
You know, it was a good day or whatever. But
the flip side of that is, y'all, if we have
a bad day, you know, we're we are humid. You
know that one encounter sometimes makes all the difference in
the world and your perception of that actor or whatever.
(34:23):
But you know, it just might have been a bad day.
You know, I don't ever deliberately just be like, hey,
you know, I'm yeah, Simon autograss. They're taking pictures and
blah blah blah blah. You know, so who you are,
you're going to throw that out there, but you know
it does happen, So no, it does.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
But I can honestly say this, like, and that's what's
so beautiful is that for me, you are the same
Dorian that I met in nineteen eighty. For me, in
September nineteen eighty when I went to school.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
And you why are you dating us? Why are you
putting that out there?
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Okay, I don't know about your I don't know about your.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
History and Wikipedia, but they got dates.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
In mine right right right? They have me a year younger,
so I'll take it.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yeah, I'm a year older than you, so you're not. Yes,
I am what year were you born? Sixty two?
Speaker 3 (35:18):
So I said, they have me a year younger Wikipedia, right,
what I was like, you don't do that? But anyway, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Well give them a tell them, tell him during whatever
you feel they need to know because you drop some diamonds.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Oh die, No, you know, just if this is what
you want to do, if this is what you enjoyed doing,
do it. You know. I think a lot of people
go in for the notoriety or the money or whatever,
but you have to have a passion in your heart.
You know. I would do this for free. I'm glad
I don't have to, but crazy, you know. Yeah, it
(36:02):
is something I love doing, and I keep working at it.
It never stops. I never stopped trying to grow, you know.
I learned little things as I go along. I work
with different people and I've watched them, you know, and
so that's that's kind of it. I just I thank
God for my longevity and to be able to work
(36:24):
and to do what I love to do, you know,
and get paid for it.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
And I just want to say this before we bring
on the students, that we have two actors who are
going to ask a question for you. So my next chapter,
this is what I believe is directing full time.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
And playing with my friends. That's what I feel like
my characters.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
And because look, look, Tracy, anyway.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Get your head down because I'm saving youse up when
we get off the phone anyway, because.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Of the strike.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
But Dorian, I have to say this because I've never
admitted this to anyone, and directors, I would be in
casside sessions reading.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
I read with all the actors all the time.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
I love reading, right, and directors would turn around and
look at me.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Be like, are you an actress? And I go no, no,
I'm not an actress at all, journey right.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
So I have to admit it on my podcast in
front of Spruce Elsa and Andy.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Yes I did act at Dorry knows.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
And a brilliant actress. That is so crazy. I don't
know why you don't own that. You were so good, Tracy,
just natural and you know, your personality just shines. It
really does.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
And when I tell you, I love me some Dory
and Wilson, I'm so glad that you are still in
my life.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
And when I write this.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
I you know, I did write about the donut holes
altho though that weed is legal down so Dorry and
I you just spoke weed and go to Dugan Dodos
and get a bed full of donut holes.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Because it's legal now. But that was that's what we were.
We were young, and that's what we were talking to
you on the low. Now you could listen.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
I walked down the stre I live in Brooklyn and
there are two spots in my in my neighborhood and like.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
I'm like, yo, they really so it blows me. And
I just have to say this. I was in Oakland
for my birthday two years ago, go by Lake Marrin
and this woman had a vat of weed. I was
with my mother, so you know, I had to play
it off. But when I tell you, my body went
into convulsions and I was like, wait, hold up, is
(38:40):
this real? And she was like kid.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
I was like, oh my god, oh my god, right
right right, But we had we had.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
The vested times and and and what I love more
than anything is that we are still in communication. And
when I can't even tell you, Dorian, for every person
that would come and you know, Dorian, Dorian, I'd be
like a trillionaire today.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Yeah. Yeah, but I love it. Likewise, I love it.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
So I'm going to bring Elsa Lathan, our co executive
producer on Spirited Actor.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Elsa, who do we have some questions? Can I just
say that was priceless, priceless, thank you, thank you?
Speaker 3 (39:25):
All right, Yeah, that was a great little memory lane
trip there.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Yeah, that was great. Yeah. So today on for our
Q and A, we have two of our wonderful Spirited
after alumni. We have mister Sam Bryce, you can come
on camera. Sam, and we have miss Maya Bello. Hey, guys,
and Maya's in l A, Dorian.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Sam is on the East coast of US, so so
Elsa always ladies first. So Maya you're up first with
your question. Okay. Yeah, So I just want to say hi, oh,
thank you. I was gonna say I love to your sister. Sister.
That's when I was taking to you.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
This is really fun.
Speaker 6 (40:13):
So you said that, you know, training is very important
I've trained with Tracy, and I just wanted to know
your training actors. What were some of the things you
thought were really important to like teach them for them
to practice.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Wow, that's a really interesting question. Definitely cold reading, which
I'm not good at, but being able to pick up
you know, any literature or whatever, because a lot of times,
well not a lot of times, but there are some
(40:48):
times where you go in for a feature or a
role or whatever that requires you to be a certain
way or whatever, and on the spot they'll ask you,
you know what, I think you would be more suited
for this character. So it's really important to be able
to to pick that up, to grasp the you know,
what the kind of root of the character is and
(41:10):
be able to run with it. And Uh, that to
me is something you keep in your pocket and you
know you'll be able to pull it out. The other
thing is just especially work ethic, you know, being on time, uh,
knowing your your dialogue, your whatever you're you're auditioning for.
(41:32):
Put put in the time, you know, uh, making sure
you have your your head shots and put some money
into your headshots. Everybody, like not everybody, but a lot
of young people that have come up to me is like, oh,
I got money for headshots and whatnot. No, but you
got money to have a drink at the bar, you
(41:52):
know on Saturday, Friday and Saturday. But you know you
can use that money, you know. But all of these
things important for your to your package, and you know,
put those things in place before you do anything else.
Have your resume updated. Uh, even if you you know
you don't have much to put on it, just be
(42:13):
creative enough that you're not gonna get hot. I have
I put our horseback ride and blah blah blah. I
got picked for the the the sidekick of the lead
actor who was a cowboy. So at the end of
it we run off, we go off of the.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
Sunset and he is this galloping and I could ride.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
A horse loop from that bitch anyway, So be able
to back up your stuff, you know, to that point.
So anyway, I hope that answered your question.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
No, that's excellent, excellent, Okay, okay, Elsa, thank you, thank you,
and mister Sam right.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
Next, it's a pleasure to speak with you, mister Wilson Chevy.
Speaker 7 (43:08):
So question positive or negative, what would you say is
the most impactful moment in your career.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
Oh, I still am in awe of the whole process.
When I auditioned for dream On, you know, I'm a
new actor to LA, didn't know anybody. I did a
couple of things, but to get a series regular in
(43:40):
six months that I had been here and I was
I was so green and new to the business that
I was still bartending at the time and so I'm
going to the set and trying to cover my shifts
at the restaurant. People were like, why the hell are
you still here, and I'm like, I just I got
(44:04):
that first check and I was like, I'm out of here.
I quit. So I was doing dream On and Sister
Sister at the same time, literally, and they worked around
my schedule, so that that was very impactful that for
my bank account and my house. But yeah, so I
(44:27):
would say that and HBO.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
HBO is a beast. I used to work for HBO, so.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
That, oh nice. Yeah, way ahead of time. I couldn't
even get it out wing. The show was way ahead
of its time. So the first sex in the City,
you know, it was like I get this script and
I'm like these scripts and I'm like, I have to
sleep with a different woman every week. But and I
gotta pay trick.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
I'm I am in leading man right, Dorian, thank you, Elsa,
thank you for thank you for the actors and the questions.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
We're going to come back.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
We're going to come back on the Spirited Actor Podcast
with Class in Session where you'll see them Performancen and
else is going to read the narrative.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
So stay tuned, don't.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
Go anywhere when we come back on the Spirited Actor
Podcast with me Tracy Moore. You're blessed to have Dorian
Wilson still with us and we'll do Class and Session.
Welcome back to the Spirited Actor Podcast.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
With me, Tracy Moore.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
You are so blessed Dorian Wilson is still with us,
and we are going to go. Yes, we are going
to go into Class and Session where Elsa will introduce
our Spirit Actor alumni.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
They will perform a scene and Dorian will be so
gracious and give them feedback.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
Okay, so.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
That's another show. Okay, you a good one. So today
on Class and Session we have we are welcoming back
mister Sam Bryce, Welcome back, Sam, Hey Sam, how are you?
(46:21):
And miss Maya Bell Welcome back Maya.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
Thank you as she is Maya.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
So today's scene is of all the places written by
Leon Amoto. Interior Grand Lux Country Club evening. The ballroom
is vibrant with purple neon strobe lights shining and beaming
off the huge glass chandelier over the dance floor, which
is packed. Everyone is turned up. It's that kind of
(46:49):
wedding jacket edges. Let's get married, just drop so. Mary
heads over to the dance floor to join the party.
When her and Ben locked eyes again.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
I'm sorry I had to come over ahead and say something.
All right, I'm Ben, I know who you are.
Speaker 6 (47:17):
Congratulations, this is beautiful.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Mary's taking a back, surprised. She also realizes they're still
holding hands since they greeted hello. She quickly drops her hand.
Speaker 3 (47:33):
Thank you. So what did you come here with?
Speaker 6 (47:39):
Oh, Angie's my sister. I'm her day tonight, okay, the
neighbor exactly.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
The tension in their locked eyes towards each other is undeniable.
Mary notices that his wife is looking for him as
the song is appropriate. I'm gonna go grab a drink.
I think your wife is looking for you. He just
stares at her as if he didn't hear what she
just said. Mary heads off towards the bar, but he stills.
Speaker 7 (48:10):
Look, I know this is so inappropriate and I would
never ever do this, but I've been locked doing you
since I saw you at the church. I hope I
get to see you again.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
Ironically, Mary feels it as wrong as it is.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
She hesitates, but me too.
Speaker 2 (48:36):
Mary notices that his wife has found him and it
is on her way over because she snaps out of it.
Congratulations again, She smiles and heads off. He watches until
he's interrupted by his new wife, who intimately surprises him
from behind. She hugs on him as the DJ gets.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
On the mic.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
Can we get Ben in his beautiful new wife Shauna
to the dance floor, let's go see. Oh nice job
you guys. Okay, Dorian, it's you.
Speaker 3 (49:12):
I have nothing. No, it was really good. I really
thought you were coming back. I was like, okay, we'll
keep going. No, you guys did a great job. The
only thing that I could think of this, Sammy, just
be a little bit more aware that your wife might
(49:34):
be somewhere close by and to kind of regurgitate him,
to get all this stuff up, you know, knowing that
she can be behind you at any second. But I
love the approach and everything else. You were. You're great.
(49:54):
I don't have any you know, bad things to say.
You were engaged. I loved the coyness. Yeahcy, thank you.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
I mean I that like, I'm like you.
Speaker 1 (50:11):
That's a specific note that I would have given to
because that would have added on a little bit to
the urgency of like, let me let you know I
like you and we could get together, but not in
front of my wife.
Speaker 3 (50:23):
Exactly exactly that you did. Beautiful job.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
Yeah, Sam, and these Sam and Maya are speared actor.
Oh gee, so thank you, say thank you, Maya, and
I just want to tell you really quickly.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
Dorian Sam was cast in Soul Santa, which is a
film that I cast with Elsa, and the character was
twenty seven I believe to thirty.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
He was nerdy, he was tall and thin. This was
the character breakdown.
Speaker 1 (50:59):
Wow else suggested Sam come in, and you know, if
it was according to the breakdown, we're true, Sam wouldn't
have come in. But I was like, Sam is talented. Yes,
that's a great idea. Bottom in Sam got cast. Terry
Vought love that.
Speaker 3 (51:16):
Yeah, I love that when you can stink outside the
box and and just go for it. I've been cast
as an elderly white woman who was very articulate and
whatnot who they sent me in anyway, and I got
the role. So but I love those stories. Yeah, great job, guys, Dorian.
Speaker 1 (51:35):
Thank you so much. I can't even begin to thank
you for coming on this show. All the truths of me.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
I thank you. I couldn't wait because I was like, Dory,
I can't wait Wilson on the show.
Speaker 3 (51:48):
So I've saved some nuggets though, I've saved something.
Speaker 2 (51:52):
Thank you for the other skeletons, like.
Speaker 3 (51:55):
The fact that I had the biggest crush on you
and you didn't give me the time of day because
you're interested in two other white guys.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
All right, can we talk about something else?
Speaker 3 (52:07):
But I.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
Couldn't like you.
Speaker 3 (52:11):
I needed Yes, what's this?
Speaker 2 (52:13):
It was?
Speaker 3 (52:18):
It was the right thing to do.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
It was and you told me. She was like, Dorian
has a question on you. I was like, no, he
doesn't do it. George, just like me.
Speaker 3 (52:28):
You knew I did you do well?
Speaker 2 (52:33):
Dorian? We loved spirited podcast and Dorian, before you leave,
can you do it? I know you coming out? Yes
I do.
Speaker 3 (52:48):
Uh, It's it's called a Wesley Christmas wedding, and it
is the second part in a trilogy that we're doing
to introduce the Wesleys to America, and I am having
so much fun. It is done by Optic Productions, Brie
and Chuck West. I don't know if you know them,
but if you don't, you need to get to know
(53:10):
them first class all the way. Just very intuitive, respectful.
Brie wrote this beautiful sequel to the first one out
of knowing uh us as actors and our personalities and whatnot.
(53:32):
So she's incorporated this in our second one. So we
got to play our strengths. One of the young ladies,
Lauren Lott, she's she's a beautiful vocalist and she's singing
in it. And TC Carson is is in it as well,
who's singing. Jasmine Guy plays my wife. But I'm so
proud of this work. It's a it's a Christmas movie,
(53:55):
but there's a story behind it, and everybody's storyline is
so import Horton and and you're gonna walk away and
it'll make you think. But it's a great feel good movie.
But we are shooting the third one in after the
New Year. We usually shoot in November, but because of
(54:15):
the strike. They pushed it to in the January beginning
of February. But we're shooting in South Africa. Oh yeah,
so I'm so aware of South Africa. I think Johannesburg,
but I'm not positive. So they haven't gave us all
the particulars. But we keep going. Yeah, so we're doing
(54:35):
that and then hopefully, well not hopefully, it's going to
become a series The Wesleys.
Speaker 1 (54:42):
They will the Wesleys Lady and Keleman look Out for
the Wesleys starring Dory and Wilson. Look Out for Anything
starring Dorian Wilson, because he is a stellar star and
he is the most humble person in the industry, and.
Speaker 2 (54:56):
He has seventy eight credits and more.
Speaker 4 (54:58):
Because I love that, I'm going to get a T
shirt that says that writing.
Speaker 2 (55:06):
It, I love you so much, feeling all the tea
on me. Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (55:18):
When we come back on the Spirited Actor podcast with
me Tracy Moore, I'm giving Cassidy Arkins.
Speaker 2 (55:24):
That woman right there.
Speaker 1 (55:26):
She introduced me to Spruce and that's how inside the
Black Box. She is the reason why I'm here, and
we'll be back and I'm going to give her and
all of you guys some love, and now we are going.
Speaker 2 (55:40):
To celebrate in Kudos Corner. Kudos Corner is.
Speaker 1 (55:44):
Where we celebrate spirited actors who are performing, got booked, directing, writing.
Speaker 2 (55:51):
We want to give them their flowers now.
Speaker 1 (55:55):
So in this week's Kudos Corner, we are celebrating Audia Gunza.
She is a Spirited actor alumni and actress, writer director.
She recently filmed a featured film, thirty and Dating, which
I coached her. The film will be released in twenty
twenty four, and I hear that there may be some
(56:17):
series talk for her right now.
Speaker 2 (56:20):
She also starred in and assisted directing an off Broadway play.
Speaker 1 (56:24):
She has credits on New Amsterdam and Just Like That
and a short film Rebellious. When she's not in front
of the camera, Audia keeps herself tuned in and engaged
by working productions and on sets like Just Like That,
American horror story, New Amsterdam and Fueled. She also is
(56:49):
currently writing her own featured film, Kudos to Audio Gonzales
and now It's time to give love. People don't say
what they mean, and they don't mean what they say.
You have to watch them and observe their behavior. This
is what I stress to actors in the acting world.
(57:11):
But trust me when I tell you you can use
it in real life too, and it will save you
time and heartache. Milangelo says, when people show up, believe them.
A lot of times in life we give people the
benefit of the doubt, but when they tell us who
they are, believe it. Don't think you can change it.
(57:31):
Don't think it's maybe this is just a moment. Trust
your instincts, trust your energy and what you feel. If
it's not conducive to lifting you up and making you
feel the best that you can feel, then it's not
for you. Learn to be able to determine what's good
(57:58):
for you and what it's not good for you and
save yourself a lot of time and a lot of hearty,
don't forget to look out for us on our new show,
Inside the Black Box. My co host will be Joe
the Legend Morton. It's going to be the Spirited Actor
Podcast on Steroids.
Speaker 2 (58:17):
We'll be streaming on the Crackle network. I'll keep you posted.
Speaker 1 (58:21):
Thank you for joining us on the Spirited Actor Podcast
with me Tracy Moore. I look forward to our next
Spirited Podcast.
Speaker 2 (58:29):
Thank you
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