June 19, 2020 • 43 mins
Sports have always been about breaking records and the athletes who make history. As a black woman on a NASCAR pit crew, everything Brehanna Daniels does smashes through a glass ceiling and sets a record - and she’s proud to be doing it. The NASCAR tire changer talks about the groundbreaking changes in her sport and how, seemingly overnight, she went from being a college basketball player to a rising star in the revolutionary Drive for Diversity program. Brehanna shares her experience with racism growing up in the South, how it felt to see Confederate flags at events, and why that idiot who took his truck and went home - can stay home. Then, Jensen catches up with comedian friend and co-host of “The Greatest” podcast, Megan Gailey, about the health of returning players and her hard to hide enthusiasm for Peyton Manning. This episode and series supports FeedingAmerica.org. For more of The No-Sports Report, visit treefort.fm/the-no-sports-report
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to The No Sports Report, a production of I
Heart Radio Entry Fork Media. My name is Jensen Carp
and I'm a sports fan who is sitting here watching
the world change, and the sports universe is no different.
You've got the NFL appearing to embrace kneeling Colin Kaepernick
is being encouraged to return, un l V is removing
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their Confederate theme mascot entire college football teams are registering
to vote in public, and today's episode touches on one
of the more shocking developments, the evolution of NASCAR. But
we're all looking at you, Washington Redskins. It's time. Even
Aunt Jemima is seeing the door do the right thing
and I don't know, become the Washington Trout or the
Evergreens or even the Kenny G's. He's from there. The
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logo could be a sax. Anyway, You're moved. Until then,
I'm talking to athletes and sports industry professionals about what
they're doing during this crazy time, hoping to figure out
if famous competing as much as I miss watching it.
This is the No Sports Report with some sports now.
I have a confession to make. I've never watched an
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entire NASCAR race. I've seen highlights, mostly crashes, and I've
checked in for a few minutes and set out loud. Okay,
that's a full circle. Then I change a channel. Honestly,
it's never spoken to me, and when it has spoken
in the past, it's usually for something that makes me
very embarrassed for being a white person. To me, it
was the sports equivalent to that one kid rock song
where he's samples sweet Home Alabama. So over this past month,
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learning about Bubba Wallace, the banning of the Confederate flag,
the sports embracing a black Lives Matter, and today's guest
Brianna Daniels has me excited to not only become a fan,
but watched an entire race as a black woman on
a NASCAR pit crew. Everything Brianna Daniels does smashes through
a glass ceiling and sets a record, including participating in
the Daytona five hundred. A former college basketball player, she's
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proof that you never really know what's next in life
as long as you're good at what you do, and
Brianna is very good at what she does now, working
for numerous competitive drivers at a time. We talk about
the revolutionary drive for diversity program, making changes in NASCAR,
how she felt seeing those Confederate flags, and that idiot
who decided to take his car and go home. I
also catch up with friend and co host of The
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Greatest Podcast Megan Gaily about the health of returning players
and her hard to hide enthusiasm for Peyton Manning. Thanks
for listening to another episode of The No Sports Report
with some Sports Now from Brianna Daniels to accept Press one. Hey,
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how's it going doing good? Thanks for having me? Yeah, Well,
I wanted to start off by asking you where you've
been quarantined and for how long I have been quarantined
in Charlotte, North Carolina. And with NASCAR it's back and running.
I feel like you jumped back into the real world.
I need to ask you immediately, what is it like? Hey,
if I'm going from being around no one to being
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around you know, a lot more people, just basically everybody,
and NASCAR's kind of it's kind of a little scary
at first, but things are feeling pretty normal again, except
the fact that we have to wear masks the entire
time that we're at the track and we have to
get our temperatures check. Now. Yeah, explain to me some
of the differences that you've seen so far out on
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the race track. When we get to the track, we
have to um do check ins now, so each team
has like a check in time. That's where we have
to wear our masks, get our temperature check. We have
like there's like five different people outside the car. They're
cone in the cars to check our temperatures. And then
when we get in the track. From from the time
that we get out of our vehicles, we have to
wear a mask the entire time up until race time.
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And the fact that there's no fans out there kind
of makes things look a little bit empty. But at
the same time, you know, there's a lot of us
on pit road and like with the drivers and people
on the team, so it's not all too bad. But
there's definitely a lot of time and you know, a
lot of room to walk around and stuff now without
having the stands. So yeah, and I guess too, like
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you went from what we've all been in sort of
this at home all the time, you went to straight
NonStop working. I think you're working on like three cars
right now at the moment, just too, And what are
those cars? I was on the fifty two Accinity cars
with Jimmy Means Motorsports and then the seven trucks with
the all Out Motorsports. When these changes are made, like
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wearing a mask and such and some social distancing, like
does that does that mess with pit communication? Does that
mess with your actual job? Not really, because under our
helmets and stuff like what we wear during the race,
we have to wear like these headstocks that are like fireproof,
so those headstocks over our head and then we have
to pull that up over our nose. So you know,
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whenever we talk or whatever, like we're near our our teammates,
we just pull our mass down a little bit to
say something, you know, outside of all the other noise
that's going on with the radios, I'm talking in the headsets,
and it really hasn't gotten in the way. What is
with the fans not being there? I mean, I don't
know a ton about NASA car, but I would assume
you guys feed off of the uh sort of the
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electric energy. Is that something that I that I'm guessing right? Like,
does it feel like a completely different sport or like
a practice if no one's there? No? Not really. Once
we're on pit road and just feeling like all the
cars pull in, with all the different crews, it still
seems like there's kind of a lot of people there.
I really don't pay attention to the fans that much anyway,
like during the race at least, but there's still a
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lot of action going on a pit road. So you know,
I'm just doing my job. Like it's nice to have
the fans there, but that doesn't really like get in
the way of anything. Sure, and and speaking about your job,
but let's get into how you got to this place
you're in now. When when did you get into NASCAR?
I know, it's kind of a it's kind of an
awesome story. Yeah, So I actually started NASCAR and September
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of two thousand sixteen, but at the time it was
around like April when I was feeling my senior year
of college at Nelford State University. This was the end
of my basketball season, so I really wasn't doing much
besides doing an internship on campus for off basically like
a video girl. So when I wasn't playing in my games,
I will record the men's basketball team, the softball team,
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baseball team, bowling, and I would clip and edit video footage,
making like highlight tapes and all that for the teams.
At the time I found out about the NASCAR kick
crew coming to our school. It was a Monday and
a woman by the name of Tiffany Psychs who announced
that our basketball games. She's the one who came up
to me when I was sitting down in between classes
eating at Chick fil A and she tapped me on
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my shoulder. She's like, hey, Brianna. She's like, I see
you enjoying the chicken sandwich. I was like that I am.
I was like, what's the and she was like, now,
and I just wanted to tell you the NASCAR kicker
is gonna be at our school and Wednesday, I think
you should try out. And I looked at her, like, girl,
what the Nascar? Like who said I was into Nascar?
I was like, I don't even watch Nascar. So then
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I was like, you said, uh, the NASCAR kick crews
coming to our school, like Cassie a video or something.
So she takes out her phone and goes to YouTube
and shows me a video of a pit stop and
I was like, dang, that was fast, you know, not
knowing what position I would be or anything. So she
takes her phone away and she's like, yep, so if
you end up once to the trial, let me know.
She was like okay, bye, and she walks off and
I'm looking confused, like okay, so mind you that's Monday.
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So Tuesday night I had to make the decision whether
or not I was going to go to that tryout
on Wednesday or record a professional baseball game with my internships.
So I was like, do I really feel like standing
up six hours to record this game? And I was like,
if I end up going to this NASCAR I tryout,
will I be able to give it my all? Because
at the time, I was actually training to play basketball overseas,
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so my body was like really really sore. So I
woke up Wednesday morning and it's like God told me, like, Brianna,
you have to go to this tryout and I was
like what, Like okay, Like I don't question God. So
now he told me to walk in there that day,
and that's when I met coach Phil Horton, who's a
part of the NASCAR Draft for Diversity program under a mactego.
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He was like, Hey, my one and only girl, and
I was like, what do you mean. He was like,
you're the only girl I have been here trying out today,
And I was like, great, you know that's that was
nothing new to me because growing up I played on
different sports teams where I was like the only girl
on the team with a bunch of guys. So I
was like, okay, cool, piece of cake. Great. So then
I ended up doing a really really good job. Like
Coach Horden put us through obstacle cours pretty much, I
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was like, really really intense. He wanted to see where
we were like mentally and physically, and I ended up
doing a really really good job and he was like
he'll definitely be hearing back from us. So like three
weeks later, I ended up getting the text I'm getting
invited to the national draft of their first big who combined,
and there was more of us there. I would say,
like between like twenty four and twenty six of US
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Coach Bill Horden and the whole directity program. They went
to different schools recruiting different athletes, and this trial there
was more girls there. There was like six girls and
the rest for guys. I kind of like stood out
in that try out too, because like you know, as
soon as we got there, that's the when I actually
seen a car, I was like, okay, cool, here's a
car now. So then when we got in when we
got into place, Coach Horden split everybody up within groups,
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I mean within our position. So he seen me. He
was like, hey, you're a tire tanger. You get over
here with the tire changers, tire carriers over here, jackman
over here, gas man over here. So then that was
my first time holding the impact brench because I had
to sit in front of like a practice hub like
a wheel and do my taps like I'm taking a
looking us off. So one to three, four or five,
just getting that rhythm. Did you have any experience at
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that point? Did you know anything about NASCAR? Or you
just going into every one of these exercises completely blind.
I'm going into this exercise completely blind. I knew nothing
about NASCAR, didn't even watch it. So at this point,
I'm just trying something new, and I'm just allowing my
athleticism to take over. You know, since I've been a
lifelong athlete, that definitely played a huge part. So, like
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I said, I sent in front of this practice hub
doing taps. You know, my arms and my hands are
getting sore. Because I never had to do anything like
this before. My body is just not used to it.
So then I remember the very very next day, we
have to do the same thing and work on our
positions like for a little bit more. And we were
about to have like a lunch break and Coach Ordan
was like, he's like, y'all come take a break, come
get some food. And then I was like one of
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the only ones left on the car, you know, still
like practicing, and he was like, Brianna, aren't you gonna
come eat? And I was like, I'm gonna do this first.
You know, the food always gonna be there, but you know,
this is something that I'm completely new as I want
to make sure I'm good. By the time we put
everything together. I knew at that point that he really
liked me because he's seen that I was for real
and I wanted to do it. Yeah, and you have
the dedication that you brought from your from your basketball experience. Yeah, definitely. Um.
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So then I think after that trial, we were supposed
to find out like a month or two after that,
if we had gotten selected to come back and trying
to be a professional pick crew. Remember, but I found
out the next day after that, when I was heading
home back to Charlotte, he was like, you know, Coach
couldn't wait to tell you, but he's interested in you
coming back, and he just wants to know if you
want to come back. And and I was like, I
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was gonna ask had you fixed a flat tire in
your own normal life before? No, that's crazy because I
changed a NASCAR like a race tire before I changed
the regular car tire. Amazing, that's incredible. Yeah, that is right.
More with NASCAR's Brianna Daniels after this and now the
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rest of my chat with NASCAR's Brianna Daniels. The Drive
for Diversity program, which is something that's obviously front and
center right now for NASCAR because Bubba Wallace was also
part of the same program. Correct, yep. I guess a
bigger question is, and you've been there for a bit
a couple of years now, but I think a lot
of us sports fans who have been watching from afar,
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is there anyone we're more proud of being woke than Nascar?
This is such an incredible sort of surprise for a
lot of us. Did you sort of see that coming? No?
I did not, but you know it really warmed my
heart because the stuff that's happening right now NASCAR, like,
NASCAR needs this, you know, and we've needed change for
a really really long time, change for the better starting
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with but you know, having that rapping his car the
Black Lives Matter, that was a very powerful thing to do.
It was definitely good for the culture, you know. And
with the whole thing with the Confederate flag banning, I
feel like that was causing like a lot of division,
and you know, NASCAR, that's not what we're about. We're
all about togetherness and dealing with Confederate flags. That's something
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that NASCAR had to deal with for years, you know,
and they just decided to take another out. Had you
run into any like what you as as a black
woman when you had seen those Confederate flags at events,
how did that make you feel? I felt uncomfortable, to
be honest. I mean that's not how it was brought up.
And you know, I could really do without, you know. So,
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like I said, I'm behind NASCAR for deciding to make
those necessary changes because, like I said, I feel like
it's good moving forward and what we need right now
is NASCAR is really doing a good job right now. With,
like I said, changing the sport for the better. Because
I even have a lot of people hitting me up,
you know, messaging me on social media saying that, you know, hey,
I'm gonna come out to a right now, you know,
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people who said that they will never come just because
with all the other stuff they have going on with nascars.
So I like to see that more people are trying
to get involved in NASCAR now now that these changes
are are being made, you know, and that we're bringing
awareness to the Black Lives Matter movements, because black lives
do matter, you know, and what's everything going on social injustice.
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As an African American woman, I'm just getting so tired
of seeing my own killed. You know. For a long time,
it's been it's so hard being black this and it
shouldn't matter at the end of the day. We're all human,
you know, we all want to be treated equally and fair,
and things just haven't been right for years, and we're
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gonna keep fighting until we're heard. We're gonna keep protesting,
standing in the front lines, you know, until we're heard,
until those changes are made, because like I said, I'm
just getting tired of seeing us drop like flies. It's
not right, and no humans should be treated that way
because of the color of your skin. The color our
skin should not matter absolutely. And I know that NASCAR
had Cadron Bryant sing the national anthem at the event,
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which he became viral from a Black Lives Matter themed
YouTube video kind of like a cover an original song,
I think, and I guess to like. You went on
Twitter this past week and you described your story saying,
you know, you know, the first black woman to have
ever hit at a Dayton of five hundred or a
NASCAR race, and you were selling T shirts and I
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wanted to know. My wife is one of the people
who who bought one of those T shirts, And I
want to know what kind of response did you get
from sort of your story going somewhat viral online. I've
got so much feedback, you know, people messaging me and
sending me tweets like, girl, oh my god, I'm so
sorry that I'm just not find out about you. You're awesome.
And then of course I'm talking about how NASCAR is
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doing so good right now, this is great and oh
my god, I'm so glad I discovered you, and does
everybody saying like I want to support you so much,
so I could you send me the link to your
t shirts? And you know, just people are they're happy
for the movement, you know, and they're happy to see
people in the sport who are making a difference, you know,
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the people being vocal about things. So it warmed my
heart to see all that love I received from the
fans and the stuff that I continue to get. So yeah,
if you do want to purchase the shirt, just contact
me directly on my social media Brianna Daniels to get
those shirt. Yes, yeah, we will be promoting it. I
also wanted to shout out guys like Jimmy Johnson and
Dale or in Our Junior and Kyle Busch who have
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made these supportive videos for Black Lives Matter. I I
am new to the idea that Dale Or and Our
junr is a major ally. I had no clue how
much in the past he stood up for things like this. Yes,
me neither. Just seeing people a part of the movement
and you know, speaking up on it, it really warms
my heart and that's what should happen, you know, And
I'm glad they actually stepped up and you know how
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to voice about it. Absolutely, you grew up in Virginia. Correct, yes, Virginia.
So did you run into these kind of issues growing up?
I mean, obviously as a as a white male. I
you know, I hear the stories. I've been a witnessed
for many years to the experience of what they face.
But the South, for me is someone who grew up
in California's whole life. You know, it's almost a different country.
What did you face when it came to racial bias
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or police brutality or did you have that kind of
experience growing up? Growing up? I've had people say a
couple of things. I'm trying to remember what age I was.
It's like a few years ago I had a guy
tell me, oh, you're pretty for a black girl, Like
what does that mean? I'm pretty for a black Like
just little things like that. As far as my one brother, Brian,
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he has the woman down a highwalk and her putting
her bag on the other side as if like he's
a threat to her, Like just of course this is
a white woman. It's like, why do those things have
to happen. It's just little stuff like that that that
just shouldn't even be happening. That of course we noticed,
and it's been it's always been happening for years. So
a lot of stuff has been happy for years. There's
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just now there's technology, you know, high quality cameras, and
we have the power too. I release these videos and
stuff that people are going through, Like the man who
just passed away to Wendy's two nights ago. The cops
shot him in the bag while he was running away,
Like the stuff like that should not happen, and those
cops should be held accountable for their actions, like there's
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no other way, and there's I don't want to give
them too much press, so I'm not even gonna say
his name. But he's a NASCAR driver who has as
many NASCAR wins as I do. Uh. He says he's
quitting the sport over this decision with a Confederate flag.
I mean, do you have any ability to see? Because
I cannot, And I try always to put myself in
other people's shoes to just at least acknowledge where maybe
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this comes from. I mean, I can't fathom feeling that
kind of passion for something that means has a definition
to other people that's so much different, and so I
guess it's just discriminative, Like do you know what they
even have a connection with. At the end of the day,
that just looked really really bad, like him doing all that.
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Like there's a lot of things that happened in the
world that we don't like. You know, there's gonna be
things that happened that we all might not agree with,
but you don't have to act like that, And that
just shows a lot about his character. So I mean,
like I said, I'm not really not a fan of
people like that who act as such. You know. So
he kind of had his little hissy fit or whatever,
and he's growing to be doing all that. That's right.
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I do want to point out to like, you know,
with your tweet going viral and obviously how how much
publicity Bubba Wallace is correctly getting. Are there other people
in NASCAR that we should know about? Is there is
there other I mean, this drive for diversity programs obviously awesome.
I mean, should we know about other minorities sort of
coming up in Nascar? Yeah? So, um my roommate now,
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she's from France, her name is the Landa. She's also
black woman. She's the second black female card teacher we
have in the diversity program, which is really really cool.
I mean everything you two were doing. I mean especially
you because I think you probably got your started NASCAR
a little earlier than her. But like everything you do,
every small event, every accomplishment that you're you're kind of achieving,
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it's the first of its kind. Hey, I'm just trying
to keep breaking these barriers, you know, to insane what
else called the dude? Keep keep making a difference. Absolutely.
So two questions as we wrap up. The first is
what's left for you? You're hitting each one of these milestones,
and you know, Press is picking it up and and
figuring out you're the first to do it for as
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a black female. What's your next goal? What's the thing
you're looking to do next? Well, so, like outside of Nascar,
I'm in an aspiring actress TV personality, you know, I've
always saw myself doing that. I've always had a goal
to do that and whatever else is meant for me,
you know. So I just know I'm a hard worker.
So whatever wrap in my mind too is gonna happen regardless.
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So that's kind of my take on things. And lastly,
where can NASCAR go from here? We're all applauding from
the sidelines. We we know that there's a lot of
movement and growth happening there. It's caught my attention. I'm
excited to follow and I've become a big Bubba fan immediately.
But what do you what do you want to see
in the future? Is there anything left? So the NASCAR
Draft for Diversity program has been doing a really really
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good job with having a lot of diversity within the
pit crew. I would like to see more diversity with
these teens, you know, like the guys behind the scenes.
I want those to be a mixed group of people too,
and not just want to face crew chiefe. I would
like to see some African American cruchis you know some
more minority of cruchiees. Is that something you can shift
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to from from tire? Is there is that something you
can move into over time? M I am really thought
about it, but I mean, hey, if it's meant for
me to do that, I'll do that. Well. I'm happy
to put it in your head. Uh, Brianna, thank you
so much for talking to me, and you're truly an
inspiration and I'm so excited to watch your growth and
when you become the crew chief, I'll be I'll be
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there with the shirt on. Hey, sound good after this?
In our latest pandemic installment, I'll check in with Megan Gaily,
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here's my pandemic chat with comedian Mega and Gaily. Hello, Megan,
it's Jensen. Hi. I'm proud to talk to you because
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you know what the problems are with producing a podcast
during the quarantine. You know that we have to have
these headphones. You know they have to be in a
good space. It's just a different world. Yeah. No. And
the thing is, I don't have any of those skills.
So I'm like so happy to have c J because
if it was just me, the podcast would be me
making Instagram videos I have been. I'm now sort of
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a genius when it comes to zoom. I'm a genius
when it comes to this focus right, scarlet machine. I
know all these weird things I didn't know before three
months ago. Yeah, and that you didn't have any desire
to not No, I don't I want to. I actually
used to do a podcast where we would do it
over Skype, and we hated it so much we just
stopped doing the podcast. And now that's like best case scenario,
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that's the only thing we can do. I am talking
to you today for many reasons, but one is today
the news broke that Ezekiel Elliott and a bunch of
Dallas Cowboys based on like a pre preseason have all
tested positive for coronavirus. There's five guys that we hear
and I couldn't think of someone in my mind who
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who thinks about sports and like me as an EmPATH
as much as you. This this seems like too much. Well,
the thing two is Jack got in trouble at the
very beginning, like back in March for having a party,
and then you know Zeke was in that. It's just
what the Cowboys really are, a true disaster. It feels
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like they lived up to their nineties friends. I mean,
I feel like it's it's almost a time travel move. Well,
I mean like between Zeke being in that video, Jerry
Jones last year saying if you kneel, You'll be fired,
and now COVID, it's like they've actually found a way
to be relevant in every single negative story that is
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happening in America. Right, they have to hit all of them,
and that's that's a true girl. That's a gifts collect
them all. They have every pokemon of disaster. So did
they test positive from being out? Were they at some
Cowboys sponsored workout? I think it's those like um like
voluntary oh A t s or whatever they call them.
They're like they're like set up before camp. Yeah, I
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think it's that, And you just have to assume people
were like high fiving or something like. It could be
as minimal as that. Wow, I do love that Ezekiel
Elliott knows about hippo though, because that is like he
does have a point there. He's like, wait, how does
everyone have my medical records? Now? It is very dark
And we did the same thing when the Lakers, so
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that was actually a weird thing too. Is like, back
in the day, around the workstop and dround March fifteenth
or something, we had heard that three or four Lakers
tested positive coronavirus and here we are months later without
knowing who those people are, which to me is like
it must have been Lebron, right, the only person who
could hide it. Well, It's just like, even if it
was like cous I've feel like we would have known.
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But if it's like Anthony Davis or Lebron, they're not
going to tell us. So that makes me think it
was Anthony Davis and Lebron, which also makes me be like,
that's why, that's why Lebron is extra so gung hoo
to go to Orlando because he knows he has the
AMMI bodies already. Can't get it again, these are my
conspiracies that are going through my brain. I love that,
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but I guess I'm looking into your heart as a
sports fan. You also have a great sports podcast with
your husband called the greatest, And do you think we
should be pushing these dudes to go play sports? You know,
when the basketball plan was unveiled, I think we were
all I was happy and excited. Um, there's parts of
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it that really don't make sense to me. I think
you can just start at the playoffs. I don't understand
why you need like eight extra teams to be there.
You're just adding amounts of people. But then when you
hear black players in the n b A say like,
we don't want to go play because we don't want
any spotlight taken away from the work we're doing in
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Black Lives Matter, we also don't want to put ourselves
at risk and we're not gonna be able to see
our family, Like it's very you know, I know Lebron
wants to play, and I know, Um. I think Patrick
Beber even came out today and was like, Lebron is
the leader. If he wants to do it, then we
have to do it. And it just seems like the
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plan that is in place for the n b A
is not one that has enough support for it to
be the plan that they're going to actually do. Like,
I think we were blinded by excitement, and I do
think given the spotlight that they'll have to be able
to make an incredible raise, incredible awareness and be a
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part of the movement from Orlando still, But I don't
know if that. Like to me, Adam Silver is the
President of the United States, I looked to him for leadership.
I've said it many times. We look to him. He
is our north star. Yeah, and so it's really you
want to be like he has his ducks in a row,
because that is our moral compass. But it doesn't feel
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like he does right now. And I think that's also
just the nature of how quickly things change in terms
of Black Lives Matter movement and COVID. Like every day
there is something new, and there are California is spiking
right now, Florida is spiking. There are places where the
disease is just getting worse. And so it's like, why
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are we rushing to put a large amount of black
men in a bubble to entertain us right now? Like
it is hard to rationalize that that is a good idea. Yeah.
In Houston, I know the Rockets had to cancel practices
and close down the facility just because they're nervous about
the growth of coronavirus again. And I get to like,
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I've looked into as much as you can of this
mysterious disney world, you know plan and one of the
ideas is that the people who work at Disneyland are
able to go home every night and then come back.
That doesn't sound like a bubble at all. No, no,
And I think like after three weeks, the teams that
are going to be in the semis and conference finals
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and then finals, their families are allowed to come to
some extent, So then you're talking about people flying or
driving from places that there has not been a bubble.
And I also think we kind of focus on the
NBA because it feels like the NFL is a lost cause.
Then bell is just gonna do literally whatever the funk
they want to do despite anything happening in the world.
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But you gotta say, I mean, listen, we wrote on
the SPS together. We were able to make tons of
jokes about sports. I for once feel like maybe things
are waking up. To to use a term around woke,
but like to see Goodell talking to see Drew Bree
he's backing up from his stupidity to see you know,
I just spoke with Brianna Daniels from NASCAR, who's the
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first African American. Yes, she's the best. We just spoke
with her. You're going to be connected to her episode,
so you'll come on after her. And you know, I
never thought that I would be saying congratulations in NASCAR
for being so in front of these race relation issues,
and I guess I'm just really surprised and happy about
how athletes and and truthfully the white industry of sports
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has been has been handling everything. Yeah, Bubba Wallace is
the only black NASCAR driver, And when you see what
felt like very very much unanimous support in what he
was calling for, which is to remove Confederate flags and
everything from NASCAR, they all came like Arnard Junior, who's
not even racing, came out. It almost felt like there
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was more support in NASCAR than there has been by
white NFL player. Yeah, it's true. And I was just
gonna say, NASCAR is also at an advantage in the
sense of people are in cars to compete, you know,
like that is COVID safe. That feels like you can
have these pit crews be bubble that potted to get
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like who knew nascars well They're really killing that. Truthfully,
had no idea I was going to become such a
NASCAR fan of their politics. Have you revenge to a
NASCAR race? No, but I'm thinking about it now. I mean,
I'm from Indianapolis and so race saying is huge there.
I went to their card four hundred with my dad
in high school. Is now, you know the most fifteen
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years ago I heard some of the most vile, hateful,
disgusting things I've ever heard in my life shouted at
a NASCAR race. And I think what they're doing, and
I think what the Red Shocks are doing with their
acknowledgement is saying, yes, we do have a problem, and
it is our fans, and we are not going to
gaslight and pretend that it's not real anymore. And that
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is that's a huge step. Absolutely, I've been pleasantly surprised
Red Sox and all the way down. I mean, see
watching Goodell in that video. I felt like they were
going to turn the camera, They're gonna be a bunch
of guns, like it was a Taliban video. I had
never ever expected him to say those things. Yeah, and
I have to assume we are coming up on a
Kaepernick announcement in some way, shape or form, I did
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shoot because when you see that Pete Carroll, who is
as a coach is really respected, when he says, oh,
I should have signed him, I don't know if he
necessarily believes that. I don't actually think he's probably game truthful.
But what I do think the NFL is doing is, Hey,
if we set enough of a stage that he is
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good and he is ready to play, and that there's
very legitimate, respected coaches that believe that he will get
on a team. And so I think in some ways
they're kind of doing a campaign for him to get
on a team. And I think it would be obviously
extremely um beautiful and really moving to see. But I
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don't if I were him, I don't know if I
would want to be on a team. Yeah, I've talked
to my wife about it a couple of times, and
I've said, as a big Kaepernick fan, I don't think
being away from the game for that long and coming
back unless we're really filming a Rudy movie here, which
would be incredible to watch, But I'm not sure that's
going to be the redemption that I feel like he deserves.
I feel like he deserves to be running a team
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or you know, I I don't know what it is yet,
but I'm excited to see what kind of his I
guess his revenge, for lack of a better word, will
be with the NFL. Yeah, it's just four years, just
so long, and like if he doesn't come out and
be good at least good up to you know, great,
then I think people are going to be hating on it.
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And it's like that's really not resourceful at this point.
It does give AMMO to the wrong people, that's for sure. Yeah,
and I hate them and I just love them not
having AMMO. When that when that old bat Ball Loser
was like I'm quitting NASCAR, and NASCAR was like, who
the funk are you? That was beautiful, Like more of that,
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more of that. Uh, you have been running a sports podcast,
Like I said, with your husband, I was lucky enough
to have a title called no Sports even if there
are some sports. Now, what has it been like trying
to find content during this this work stoppage? You know,
I think we like the process of leaving our home
to go do it somewhere else, Like we are trapped
together in this home and now we are co workers too,
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and so that's kind of tough to wrap your mind around.
And as I admitted, I have no skills, so I
am the least trained coworker. I am like the loser
of the office now in my own home. Um, but
I carry I carry that with Fride. I don't mind.
And our show, luckily is we're talking about things that
have happened in the past. We're like ranking greatest comebacks,
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greatest uniforms, greatest w n b A players, and so
it's been kind of fun to look back and enjoy
a lot of things that I've forgotten about. We just
did greatest stuff humentaries, and our guest jam L. Johnson
had documentary times like yeah, I still need to see that,
And so it is kind of nice. I've been able
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to make a list of stuff that I know will
make me feel good to watch. But sports is really
kind of the only thing that makes me happy a
lot of the time. And without it too, that's been
especially hard. And I do have to say the podcast
has helped me a lot. It's like made me feel
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happy to talk to friends about sports, even if it
was something that happened ten years ago. Did with the
documentary Sports only top sports documentaries. Yeah, okay, what what what?
What are shocking names? I mean, obviously we know hoop dreams.
You know they're the obvious, right. So my number one
was this documentary called Schools, which is basically about how
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fucked up the n C double A is. And I
think we all at some point maybe came from a
place in our brain where it was like nothing more
valuable than a free education. And it's like that is
a lie that we have been sold so they could
trick people into three services and create a twenty two
billion dollar industry on the backs of mostly black athletes.
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And it's a really, really great documentary. We also talked
about Undefeated, which I think is sort of like the
seed that made Last Chance You and Cheer and all
of those types of stories even possible now exactly. And
And I think, I, God, I wish maybe you know
more about this, but I know that during this whole
thing where any news that's not related to the end
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of the world sort of gets buried, I do believe
there are a couple of states that are close to
allowing college football players to take endorsements. Yes, so California
was actually the very first state. It passed. I believe
back in January it was. It was right before we
went into quarantine. And they will be able to make
money off of I think their likeness and end um
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be able to like read benefits when they are used
in video games anything like that. And and California doing
that is a huge deal because there's a lot of
giant schools out here that A kids want to be
recruited by to come live in beautiful weather and play
at usc U c l A like that sounds like
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a good deal. And b it's a large enough state
that the n C Double A can't just really say
we're not going to deal with you anymore. So I
think the hope is California can pull the rest of
the country and and some of them kicking and screaming, screaming.
I can't imagine Alabama wants to give up their hold
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on free college football labor, but they very well may
have to. I hate I hate kills me. I mean
as an abandoned fan. I mean it's funny because Los
Angeles being upfront. It's like Charles O'Bannon had sued for
the Double A video game because basically they had his
jersey number. It looked just like him. They didn't have
to pay him because they said it wasn't his likeness,
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which was crazy. Uh. And and I also think like
the argument of their getting a free education, which is
just a painful argument, but that might hold weight when
they weren't making billions of dollars from the sport. Uh.
And the coaches weren't making tens of millions of dollars,
Like you might be able to get me if you're
if you're you know, making a small amount of money
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off of the sport. But at this point, these teams
are keeping the university afloat. Absolutely. Yeah, you could make
that argument for lacrosse perhaps, but most of the highest
paid people in every single state are college football coaches.
And that is obscene and crazy when you think that
they're quote unquote employees make zero dollars. And you also
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see the G League and and kind of um, the
youngest ball I always get the ball boys confused in
my mind their name LaMelo, lament Low, it's I think
it's I thought, who oh god, So I mean there
are the the G League is paying real money, and
that is going to be an alternative. And if you
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see college basketball start to fall. You hope you start
to see college football go the same way. But it's
it's insane. With everything we know about how much money
they make and the CTE like science, we have now
to ask young men to put their physical wellness on
the line and pay them no money. That just can't
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keep happening. I'm telling you that's an argument we could
make for some of the non Lebrons and the non
gionesis from from COVID as well. I mean, these guys,
you know, some of the guys who aren't b zillionaires
and going out there are sort of contract guys. They're
not getting paid enough to face this this disease either.
And you see baseball having such a difficult time coming
to an agreement, and I am really hopeful that will
(38:57):
see basketball, And I know that that's a selfish desire,
but it is a real reality that this plan that
is in place that felt like it was going to
happen may fall apart. Uh. Lastly, I want to tell
people one of my favorite moments in SP's history. You
were part of the staff when Peyton Manning was the host.
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You were hired because you're goddamn hilarious and know so
much about sports. But how much of a secret did
you keep your Peyton Manning fandom because I was there
when you finally told him after weeks of working with
him what he means to you tell people. The process
of what you had to go through to hide that. Well,
I'm from Indianapolis and I'm the biggest cult fan. I
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mean truly. My Instagram got hacked this weekend and and
then I got it back and everyone was like, how
do we know it's you? And I put the picture
of the cults and everyone was like, it's you, Like
I love I love them. I would, truly, I would.
I've told Dwight for me, I would give him organs
like I'm so. But this was a really important, cool job,
and I didn't want Peyton to think that I was
(39:58):
crazy or we or look at me different because I
was from a place that has a statue of him
that I would kiss, even in a pandemic um, and
so I just kept like I didn't even plan on
keeping it a secret that long, but I just was like,
I think, I'm just not going to tell hone and
then I'll just be a regular old gal. And then
once the show was really over, I did tell him,
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and he was so sweet. I just remember, he goes,
why didn't you tell me? It was just so cute.
We all had had dinner with him. Yeah, we had
dinner with him alone. There were times you could have
easily brought up how much how important he was. Do
you know whenever he would come in the room and
then leave, if all of you would look at me
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and be like you love him, like I would get flushed.
It was so um Yeah, I felt like maybe j
Lo and Maide in Manhattan, I was really keeping up
a ruse for Jumps myself. Well, you did incredible and
I'm so happy to talk to you, and people should
check out the Greatest. It is an I heart radio
companion to our show as all out there in the
sports world. And I'm happy to have you on and
(41:03):
and and to be able to talk to you. I
know we lost a mutual friend and an incredible producer
from the SPS Moura Mant during this entire COVID run.
And uh, I know I texted you about it, but
what a what an awful loss? I mean in sports
as a as a woman, there's so you people you
feel like you have to look up to and Moura
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was not even like a woman in sports. She just
was the SPS and the fact that she was a
badass woman only made her legend, I think, grow even more. Yeah,
I really hit me a lot harder than I ever
would have expected. I'm going to miss her tremendously, and
working with other producers, it's like I'm going to be
able to point out all the things that made her
the best producer to work for. Just I mean, you
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were there the year when we said we wanted we
want the affleck duck in. A day later, a duck
walked into our writers about came in. I know what, whenever,
whenever I see a half dry and green juice, I'm
gonna think of Moura forever. Sweet Well, thank you for
talking to me and said I love to see j
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Welcome to The No Sports Report, a production of I
Heart Radio Entry Fork Media. My name is Jensen Carp
and I'm a sports fan who is sitting here watching
the world change, and the sports universe is no different.
You've got the NFL appearing to embrace kneeling Colin Kaepernick
is being encouraged to return, un l V is removing
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their Confederate theme mascot entire college football teams are registering
to vote in public, and today's episode touches on one
of the more shocking developments, the evolution of NASCAR. But
we're all looking at you, Washington Redskins. It's time. Even
Aunt Jemima is seeing the door do the right thing
and I don't know, become the Washington Trout or the
Evergreens or even the Kenny G's. He's from there. The
(00:47):
logo could be a sax. Anyway, You're moved. Until then,
I'm talking to athletes and sports industry professionals about what
they're doing during this crazy time, hoping to figure out
if famous competing as much as I miss watching it.
This is the No Sports Report with some sports now.
I have a confession to make. I've never watched an
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entire NASCAR race. I've seen highlights, mostly crashes, and I've
checked in for a few minutes and set out loud. Okay,
that's a full circle. Then I change a channel. Honestly,
it's never spoken to me, and when it has spoken
in the past, it's usually for something that makes me
very embarrassed for being a white person. To me, it
was the sports equivalent to that one kid rock song
where he's samples sweet Home Alabama. So over this past month,
(01:28):
learning about Bubba Wallace, the banning of the Confederate flag,
the sports embracing a black Lives Matter, and today's guest
Brianna Daniels has me excited to not only become a fan,
but watched an entire race as a black woman on
a NASCAR pit crew. Everything Brianna Daniels does smashes through
a glass ceiling and sets a record, including participating in
the Daytona five hundred. A former college basketball player, she's
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proof that you never really know what's next in life
as long as you're good at what you do, and
Brianna is very good at what she does now, working
for numerous competitive drivers at a time. We talk about
the revolutionary drive for diversity program, making changes in NASCAR,
how she felt seeing those Confederate flags, and that idiot
who decided to take his car and go home. I
also catch up with friend and co host of The
(02:10):
Greatest Podcast Megan Gaily about the health of returning players
and her hard to hide enthusiasm for Peyton Manning. Thanks
for listening to another episode of The No Sports Report
with some Sports Now from Brianna Daniels to accept Press one. Hey,
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how's it going doing good? Thanks for having me? Yeah, Well,
I wanted to start off by asking you where you've
been quarantined and for how long I have been quarantined
in Charlotte, North Carolina. And with NASCAR it's back and running.
I feel like you jumped back into the real world.
I need to ask you immediately, what is it like? Hey,
if I'm going from being around no one to being
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around you know, a lot more people, just basically everybody,
and NASCAR's kind of it's kind of a little scary
at first, but things are feeling pretty normal again, except
the fact that we have to wear masks the entire
time that we're at the track and we have to
get our temperatures check. Now. Yeah, explain to me some
of the differences that you've seen so far out on
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the race track. When we get to the track, we
have to um do check ins now, so each team
has like a check in time. That's where we have
to wear our masks, get our temperature check. We have
like there's like five different people outside the car. They're
cone in the cars to check our temperatures. And then
when we get in the track. From from the time
that we get out of our vehicles, we have to
wear a mask the entire time up until race time.
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And the fact that there's no fans out there kind
of makes things look a little bit empty. But at
the same time, you know, there's a lot of us
on pit road and like with the drivers and people
on the team, so it's not all too bad. But
there's definitely a lot of time and you know, a
lot of room to walk around and stuff now without
having the stands. So yeah, and I guess too, like
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you went from what we've all been in sort of
this at home all the time, you went to straight
NonStop working. I think you're working on like three cars
right now at the moment, just too, And what are
those cars? I was on the fifty two Accinity cars
with Jimmy Means Motorsports and then the seven trucks with
the all Out Motorsports. When these changes are made, like
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wearing a mask and such and some social distancing, like
does that does that mess with pit communication? Does that
mess with your actual job? Not really, because under our
helmets and stuff like what we wear during the race,
we have to wear like these headstocks that are like fireproof,
so those headstocks over our head and then we have
to pull that up over our nose. So you know,
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whenever we talk or whatever, like we're near our our teammates,
we just pull our mass down a little bit to
say something, you know, outside of all the other noise
that's going on with the radios, I'm talking in the headsets,
and it really hasn't gotten in the way. What is
with the fans not being there? I mean, I don't
know a ton about NASA car, but I would assume
you guys feed off of the uh sort of the
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electric energy. Is that something that I that I'm guessing right? Like,
does it feel like a completely different sport or like
a practice if no one's there? No? Not really. Once
we're on pit road and just feeling like all the
cars pull in, with all the different crews, it still
seems like there's kind of a lot of people there.
I really don't pay attention to the fans that much anyway,
like during the race at least, but there's still a
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lot of action going on a pit road. So you know,
I'm just doing my job. Like it's nice to have
the fans there, but that doesn't really like get in
the way of anything. Sure, and and speaking about your job,
but let's get into how you got to this place
you're in now. When when did you get into NASCAR?
I know, it's kind of a it's kind of an
awesome story. Yeah, So I actually started NASCAR and September
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of two thousand sixteen, but at the time it was
around like April when I was feeling my senior year
of college at Nelford State University. This was the end
of my basketball season, so I really wasn't doing much
besides doing an internship on campus for off basically like
a video girl. So when I wasn't playing in my games,
I will record the men's basketball team, the softball team,
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baseball team, bowling, and I would clip and edit video footage,
making like highlight tapes and all that for the teams.
At the time I found out about the NASCAR kick
crew coming to our school. It was a Monday and
a woman by the name of Tiffany Psychs who announced
that our basketball games. She's the one who came up
to me when I was sitting down in between classes
eating at Chick fil A and she tapped me on
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my shoulder. She's like, hey, Brianna. She's like, I see
you enjoying the chicken sandwich. I was like that I am.
I was like, what's the and she was like, now,
and I just wanted to tell you the NASCAR kicker
is gonna be at our school and Wednesday, I think
you should try out. And I looked at her, like, girl,
what the Nascar? Like who said I was into Nascar?
I was like, I don't even watch Nascar. So then
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I was like, you said, uh, the NASCAR kick crews
coming to our school, like Cassie a video or something.
So she takes out her phone and goes to YouTube
and shows me a video of a pit stop and
I was like, dang, that was fast, you know, not
knowing what position I would be or anything. So she
takes her phone away and she's like, yep, so if
you end up once to the trial, let me know.
She was like okay, bye, and she walks off and
I'm looking confused, like okay, so mind you that's Monday.
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So Tuesday night I had to make the decision whether
or not I was going to go to that tryout
on Wednesday or record a professional baseball game with my internships.
So I was like, do I really feel like standing
up six hours to record this game? And I was like,
if I end up going to this NASCAR I tryout,
will I be able to give it my all? Because
at the time, I was actually training to play basketball overseas,
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so my body was like really really sore. So I
woke up Wednesday morning and it's like God told me, like, Brianna,
you have to go to this tryout and I was
like what, Like okay, Like I don't question God. So
now he told me to walk in there that day,
and that's when I met coach Phil Horton, who's a
part of the NASCAR Draft for Diversity program under a mactego.
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He was like, Hey, my one and only girl, and
I was like, what do you mean. He was like,
you're the only girl I have been here trying out today,
And I was like, great, you know that's that was
nothing new to me because growing up I played on
different sports teams where I was like the only girl
on the team with a bunch of guys. So I
was like, okay, cool, piece of cake. Great. So then
I ended up doing a really really good job. Like
Coach Horden put us through obstacle cours pretty much, I
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was like, really really intense. He wanted to see where
we were like mentally and physically, and I ended up
doing a really really good job and he was like
he'll definitely be hearing back from us. So like three
weeks later, I ended up getting the text I'm getting
invited to the national draft of their first big who combined,
and there was more of us there. I would say,
like between like twenty four and twenty six of US
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Coach Bill Horden and the whole directity program. They went
to different schools recruiting different athletes, and this trial there
was more girls there. There was like six girls and
the rest for guys. I kind of like stood out
in that try out too, because like you know, as
soon as we got there, that's the when I actually
seen a car, I was like, okay, cool, here's a
car now. So then when we got in when we
got into place, Coach Horden split everybody up within groups,
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I mean within our position. So he seen me. He
was like, hey, you're a tire tanger. You get over
here with the tire changers, tire carriers over here, jackman
over here, gas man over here. So then that was
my first time holding the impact brench because I had
to sit in front of like a practice hub like
a wheel and do my taps like I'm taking a
looking us off. So one to three, four or five,
just getting that rhythm. Did you have any experience at
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that point? Did you know anything about NASCAR? Or you
just going into every one of these exercises completely blind.
I'm going into this exercise completely blind. I knew nothing
about NASCAR, didn't even watch it. So at this point,
I'm just trying something new, and I'm just allowing my
athleticism to take over. You know, since I've been a
lifelong athlete, that definitely played a huge part. So, like
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I said, I sent in front of this practice hub
doing taps. You know, my arms and my hands are
getting sore. Because I never had to do anything like
this before. My body is just not used to it.
So then I remember the very very next day, we
have to do the same thing and work on our
positions like for a little bit more. And we were
about to have like a lunch break and Coach Ordan
was like, he's like, y'all come take a break, come
get some food. And then I was like one of
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the only ones left on the car, you know, still
like practicing, and he was like, Brianna, aren't you gonna
come eat? And I was like, I'm gonna do this first.
You know, the food always gonna be there, but you know,
this is something that I'm completely new as I want
to make sure I'm good. By the time we put
everything together. I knew at that point that he really
liked me because he's seen that I was for real
and I wanted to do it. Yeah, and you have
the dedication that you brought from your from your basketball experience. Yeah, definitely. Um.
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So then I think after that trial, we were supposed
to find out like a month or two after that,
if we had gotten selected to come back and trying
to be a professional pick crew. Remember, but I found
out the next day after that, when I was heading
home back to Charlotte, he was like, you know, Coach
couldn't wait to tell you, but he's interested in you
coming back, and he just wants to know if you
want to come back. And and I was like, I
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was gonna ask had you fixed a flat tire in
your own normal life before? No, that's crazy because I
changed a NASCAR like a race tire before I changed
the regular car tire. Amazing, that's incredible. Yeah, that is right.
More with NASCAR's Brianna Daniels after this and now the
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rest of my chat with NASCAR's Brianna Daniels. The Drive
for Diversity program, which is something that's obviously front and
center right now for NASCAR because Bubba Wallace was also
part of the same program. Correct, yep. I guess a
bigger question is, and you've been there for a bit
a couple of years now, but I think a lot
of us sports fans who have been watching from afar,
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is there anyone we're more proud of being woke than Nascar?
This is such an incredible sort of surprise for a
lot of us. Did you sort of see that coming? No?
I did not, but you know it really warmed my
heart because the stuff that's happening right now NASCAR, like,
NASCAR needs this, you know, and we've needed change for
a really really long time, change for the better starting
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with but you know, having that rapping his car the
Black Lives Matter, that was a very powerful thing to do.
It was definitely good for the culture, you know. And
with the whole thing with the Confederate flag banning, I
feel like that was causing like a lot of division,
and you know, NASCAR, that's not what we're about. We're
all about togetherness and dealing with Confederate flags. That's something
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that NASCAR had to deal with for years, you know,
and they just decided to take another out. Had you
run into any like what you as as a black
woman when you had seen those Confederate flags at events,
how did that make you feel? I felt uncomfortable, to
be honest. I mean that's not how it was brought up.
And you know, I could really do without, you know. So,
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like I said, I'm behind NASCAR for deciding to make
those necessary changes because, like I said, I feel like
it's good moving forward and what we need right now
is NASCAR is really doing a good job right now. With,
like I said, changing the sport for the better. Because
I even have a lot of people hitting me up,
you know, messaging me on social media saying that, you know, hey,
I'm gonna come out to a right now, you know,
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people who said that they will never come just because
with all the other stuff they have going on with nascars.
So I like to see that more people are trying
to get involved in NASCAR now now that these changes
are are being made, you know, and that we're bringing
awareness to the Black Lives Matter movements, because black lives
do matter, you know, and what's everything going on social injustice.
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As an African American woman, I'm just getting so tired
of seeing my own killed. You know. For a long time,
it's been it's so hard being black this and it
shouldn't matter at the end of the day. We're all human,
you know, we all want to be treated equally and fair,
and things just haven't been right for years, and we're
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gonna keep fighting until we're heard. We're gonna keep protesting,
standing in the front lines, you know, until we're heard,
until those changes are made, because like I said, I'm
just getting tired of seeing us drop like flies. It's
not right, and no humans should be treated that way
because of the color of your skin. The color our
skin should not matter absolutely. And I know that NASCAR
had Cadron Bryant sing the national anthem at the event,
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which he became viral from a Black Lives Matter themed
YouTube video kind of like a cover an original song,
I think, and I guess to like. You went on
Twitter this past week and you described your story saying,
you know, you know, the first black woman to have
ever hit at a Dayton of five hundred or a
NASCAR race, and you were selling T shirts and I
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wanted to know. My wife is one of the people
who who bought one of those T shirts, And I
want to know what kind of response did you get
from sort of your story going somewhat viral online. I've
got so much feedback, you know, people messaging me and
sending me tweets like, girl, oh my god, I'm so
sorry that I'm just not find out about you. You're awesome.
And then of course I'm talking about how NASCAR is
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doing so good right now, this is great and oh
my god, I'm so glad I discovered you, and does
everybody saying like I want to support you so much,
so I could you send me the link to your
t shirts? And you know, just people are they're happy
for the movement, you know, and they're happy to see
people in the sport who are making a difference, you know,
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the people being vocal about things. So it warmed my
heart to see all that love I received from the
fans and the stuff that I continue to get. So yeah,
if you do want to purchase the shirt, just contact
me directly on my social media Brianna Daniels to get
those shirt. Yes, yeah, we will be promoting it. I
also wanted to shout out guys like Jimmy Johnson and
Dale or in Our Junior and Kyle Busch who have
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made these supportive videos for Black Lives Matter. I I
am new to the idea that Dale Or and Our
junr is a major ally. I had no clue how
much in the past he stood up for things like this. Yes,
me neither. Just seeing people a part of the movement
and you know, speaking up on it, it really warms
my heart and that's what should happen, you know, And
I'm glad they actually stepped up and you know how
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to voice about it. Absolutely, you grew up in Virginia. Correct, yes, Virginia.
So did you run into these kind of issues growing up?
I mean, obviously as a as a white male. I
you know, I hear the stories. I've been a witnessed
for many years to the experience of what they face.
But the South, for me is someone who grew up
in California's whole life. You know, it's almost a different country.
What did you face when it came to racial bias
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or police brutality or did you have that kind of
experience growing up? Growing up? I've had people say a
couple of things. I'm trying to remember what age I was.
It's like a few years ago I had a guy
tell me, oh, you're pretty for a black girl, Like
what does that mean? I'm pretty for a black Like
just little things like that. As far as my one brother, Brian,
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he has the woman down a highwalk and her putting
her bag on the other side as if like he's
a threat to her, Like just of course this is
a white woman. It's like, why do those things have
to happen. It's just little stuff like that that that
just shouldn't even be happening. That of course we noticed,
and it's been it's always been happening for years. So
a lot of stuff has been happy for years. There's
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just now there's technology, you know, high quality cameras, and
we have the power too. I release these videos and
stuff that people are going through, Like the man who
just passed away to Wendy's two nights ago. The cops
shot him in the bag while he was running away,
Like the stuff like that should not happen, and those
cops should be held accountable for their actions, like there's
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no other way, and there's I don't want to give
them too much press, so I'm not even gonna say
his name. But he's a NASCAR driver who has as
many NASCAR wins as I do. Uh. He says he's
quitting the sport over this decision with a Confederate flag.
I mean, do you have any ability to see? Because
I cannot, And I try always to put myself in
other people's shoes to just at least acknowledge where maybe
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this comes from. I mean, I can't fathom feeling that
kind of passion for something that means has a definition
to other people that's so much different, and so I
guess it's just discriminative, Like do you know what they
even have a connection with. At the end of the day,
that just looked really really bad, like him doing all that.
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Like there's a lot of things that happened in the
world that we don't like. You know, there's gonna be
things that happened that we all might not agree with,
but you don't have to act like that, And that
just shows a lot about his character. So I mean,
like I said, I'm not really not a fan of
people like that who act as such. You know. So
he kind of had his little hissy fit or whatever,
and he's growing to be doing all that. That's right.
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I do want to point out to like, you know,
with your tweet going viral and obviously how how much
publicity Bubba Wallace is correctly getting. Are there other people
in NASCAR that we should know about? Is there is
there other I mean, this drive for diversity programs obviously awesome.
I mean, should we know about other minorities sort of
coming up in Nascar? Yeah? So, um my roommate now,
(18:48):
she's from France, her name is the Landa. She's also
black woman. She's the second black female card teacher we
have in the diversity program, which is really really cool.
I mean everything you two were doing. I mean especially
you because I think you probably got your started NASCAR
a little earlier than her. But like everything you do,
every small event, every accomplishment that you're you're kind of achieving,
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it's the first of its kind. Hey, I'm just trying
to keep breaking these barriers, you know, to insane what
else called the dude? Keep keep making a difference. Absolutely.
So two questions as we wrap up. The first is
what's left for you? You're hitting each one of these milestones,
and you know, Press is picking it up and and
figuring out you're the first to do it for as
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a black female. What's your next goal? What's the thing
you're looking to do next? Well, so, like outside of Nascar,
I'm in an aspiring actress TV personality, you know, I've
always saw myself doing that. I've always had a goal
to do that and whatever else is meant for me,
you know. So I just know I'm a hard worker.
So whatever wrap in my mind too is gonna happen regardless.
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So that's kind of my take on things. And lastly,
where can NASCAR go from here? We're all applauding from
the sidelines. We we know that there's a lot of
movement and growth happening there. It's caught my attention. I'm
excited to follow and I've become a big Bubba fan immediately.
But what do you what do you want to see
in the future? Is there anything left? So the NASCAR
Draft for Diversity program has been doing a really really
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good job with having a lot of diversity within the
pit crew. I would like to see more diversity with
these teens, you know, like the guys behind the scenes.
I want those to be a mixed group of people too,
and not just want to face crew chiefe. I would
like to see some African American cruchis you know some
more minority of cruchiees. Is that something you can shift
(20:38):
to from from tire? Is there is that something you
can move into over time? M I am really thought
about it, but I mean, hey, if it's meant for
me to do that, I'll do that. Well. I'm happy
to put it in your head. Uh, Brianna, thank you
so much for talking to me, and you're truly an
inspiration and I'm so excited to watch your growth and
when you become the crew chief, I'll be I'll be
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there with the shirt on. Hey, sound good after this?
In our latest pandemic installment, I'll check in with Megan Gaily,
comedian and co host of I Heart Radio sports podcast
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here's my pandemic chat with comedian Mega and Gaily. Hello, Megan,
it's Jensen. Hi. I'm proud to talk to you because
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you know what the problems are with producing a podcast
during the quarantine. You know that we have to have
these headphones. You know they have to be in a
good space. It's just a different world. Yeah. No. And
the thing is, I don't have any of those skills.
So I'm like so happy to have c J because
if it was just me, the podcast would be me
making Instagram videos I have been. I'm now sort of
(22:30):
a genius when it comes to zoom. I'm a genius
when it comes to this focus right, scarlet machine. I
know all these weird things I didn't know before three
months ago. Yeah, and that you didn't have any desire
to not No, I don't I want to. I actually
used to do a podcast where we would do it
over Skype, and we hated it so much we just
stopped doing the podcast. And now that's like best case scenario,
(22:50):
that's the only thing we can do. I am talking
to you today for many reasons, but one is today
the news broke that Ezekiel Elliott and a bunch of
Dallas Cowboys based on like a pre preseason have all
tested positive for coronavirus. There's five guys that we hear
and I couldn't think of someone in my mind who
(23:10):
who thinks about sports and like me as an EmPATH
as much as you. This this seems like too much. Well,
the thing two is Jack got in trouble at the
very beginning, like back in March for having a party,
and then you know Zeke was in that. It's just
what the Cowboys really are, a true disaster. It feels
(23:34):
like they lived up to their nineties friends. I mean,
I feel like it's it's almost a time travel move. Well,
I mean like between Zeke being in that video, Jerry
Jones last year saying if you kneel, You'll be fired,
and now COVID, it's like they've actually found a way
to be relevant in every single negative story that is
(23:55):
happening in America. Right, they have to hit all of them,
and that's that's a true girl. That's a gifts collect
them all. They have every pokemon of disaster. So did
they test positive from being out? Were they at some
Cowboys sponsored workout? I think it's those like um like
voluntary oh A t s or whatever they call them.
They're like they're like set up before camp. Yeah, I
(24:17):
think it's that, And you just have to assume people
were like high fiving or something like. It could be
as minimal as that. Wow, I do love that Ezekiel
Elliott knows about hippo though, because that is like he
does have a point there. He's like, wait, how does
everyone have my medical records? Now? It is very dark
And we did the same thing when the Lakers, so
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that was actually a weird thing too. Is like, back
in the day, around the workstop and dround March fifteenth
or something, we had heard that three or four Lakers
tested positive coronavirus and here we are months later without
knowing who those people are, which to me is like
it must have been Lebron, right, the only person who
could hide it. Well, It's just like, even if it
was like cous I've feel like we would have known.
(25:01):
But if it's like Anthony Davis or Lebron, they're not
going to tell us. So that makes me think it
was Anthony Davis and Lebron, which also makes me be like,
that's why, that's why Lebron is extra so gung hoo
to go to Orlando because he knows he has the
AMMI bodies already. Can't get it again, these are my
conspiracies that are going through my brain. I love that,
(25:21):
but I guess I'm looking into your heart as a
sports fan. You also have a great sports podcast with
your husband called the greatest, And do you think we
should be pushing these dudes to go play sports? You know,
when the basketball plan was unveiled, I think we were
all I was happy and excited. Um, there's parts of
(25:43):
it that really don't make sense to me. I think
you can just start at the playoffs. I don't understand
why you need like eight extra teams to be there.
You're just adding amounts of people. But then when you
hear black players in the n b A say like,
we don't want to go play because we don't want
any spotlight taken away from the work we're doing in
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Black Lives Matter, we also don't want to put ourselves
at risk and we're not gonna be able to see
our family, Like it's very you know, I know Lebron
wants to play, and I know, Um. I think Patrick
Beber even came out today and was like, Lebron is
the leader. If he wants to do it, then we
have to do it. And it just seems like the
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plan that is in place for the n b A
is not one that has enough support for it to
be the plan that they're going to actually do. Like,
I think we were blinded by excitement, and I do
think given the spotlight that they'll have to be able
to make an incredible raise, incredible awareness and be a
(26:49):
part of the movement from Orlando still, But I don't
know if that. Like to me, Adam Silver is the
President of the United States, I looked to him for leadership.
I've said it many times. We look to him. He
is our north star. Yeah, and so it's really you
want to be like he has his ducks in a row,
because that is our moral compass. But it doesn't feel
(27:13):
like he does right now. And I think that's also
just the nature of how quickly things change in terms
of Black Lives Matter movement and COVID. Like every day
there is something new, and there are California is spiking
right now, Florida is spiking. There are places where the
disease is just getting worse. And so it's like, why
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are we rushing to put a large amount of black
men in a bubble to entertain us right now? Like
it is hard to rationalize that that is a good idea. Yeah.
In Houston, I know the Rockets had to cancel practices
and close down the facility just because they're nervous about
the growth of coronavirus again. And I get to like,
(28:01):
I've looked into as much as you can of this
mysterious disney world, you know plan and one of the
ideas is that the people who work at Disneyland are
able to go home every night and then come back.
That doesn't sound like a bubble at all. No, no,
And I think like after three weeks, the teams that
are going to be in the semis and conference finals
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and then finals, their families are allowed to come to
some extent, So then you're talking about people flying or
driving from places that there has not been a bubble.
And I also think we kind of focus on the
NBA because it feels like the NFL is a lost cause.
Then bell is just gonna do literally whatever the funk
they want to do despite anything happening in the world.
(28:45):
But you gotta say, I mean, listen, we wrote on
the SPS together. We were able to make tons of
jokes about sports. I for once feel like maybe things
are waking up. To to use a term around woke,
but like to see Goodell talking to see Drew Bree
he's backing up from his stupidity to see you know,
I just spoke with Brianna Daniels from NASCAR, who's the
(29:06):
first African American. Yes, she's the best. We just spoke
with her. You're going to be connected to her episode,
so you'll come on after her. And you know, I
never thought that I would be saying congratulations in NASCAR
for being so in front of these race relation issues,
and I guess I'm just really surprised and happy about
how athletes and and truthfully the white industry of sports
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has been has been handling everything. Yeah, Bubba Wallace is
the only black NASCAR driver, And when you see what
felt like very very much unanimous support in what he
was calling for, which is to remove Confederate flags and
everything from NASCAR, they all came like Arnard Junior, who's
not even racing, came out. It almost felt like there
(29:50):
was more support in NASCAR than there has been by
white NFL player. Yeah, it's true. And I was just
gonna say, NASCAR is also at an advantage in the
sense of people are in cars to compete, you know,
like that is COVID safe. That feels like you can
have these pit crews be bubble that potted to get
(30:10):
like who knew nascars well They're really killing that. Truthfully,
had no idea I was going to become such a
NASCAR fan of their politics. Have you revenge to a
NASCAR race? No, but I'm thinking about it now. I mean,
I'm from Indianapolis and so race saying is huge there.
I went to their card four hundred with my dad
in high school. Is now, you know the most fifteen
(30:31):
years ago I heard some of the most vile, hateful,
disgusting things I've ever heard in my life shouted at
a NASCAR race. And I think what they're doing, and
I think what the Red Shocks are doing with their
acknowledgement is saying, yes, we do have a problem, and
it is our fans, and we are not going to
gaslight and pretend that it's not real anymore. And that
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is that's a huge step. Absolutely, I've been pleasantly surprised
Red Sox and all the way down. I mean, see
watching Goodell in that video. I felt like they were
going to turn the camera, They're gonna be a bunch
of guns, like it was a Taliban video. I had
never ever expected him to say those things. Yeah, and
I have to assume we are coming up on a
Kaepernick announcement in some way, shape or form, I did
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shoot because when you see that Pete Carroll, who is
as a coach is really respected, when he says, oh,
I should have signed him, I don't know if he
necessarily believes that. I don't actually think he's probably game truthful.
But what I do think the NFL is doing is, Hey,
if we set enough of a stage that he is
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good and he is ready to play, and that there's
very legitimate, respected coaches that believe that he will get
on a team. And so I think in some ways
they're kind of doing a campaign for him to get
on a team. And I think it would be obviously
extremely um beautiful and really moving to see. But I
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don't if I were him, I don't know if I
would want to be on a team. Yeah, I've talked
to my wife about it a couple of times, and
I've said, as a big Kaepernick fan, I don't think
being away from the game for that long and coming
back unless we're really filming a Rudy movie here, which
would be incredible to watch, But I'm not sure that's
going to be the redemption that I feel like he deserves.
I feel like he deserves to be running a team
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or you know, I I don't know what it is yet,
but I'm excited to see what kind of his I
guess his revenge, for lack of a better word, will
be with the NFL. Yeah, it's just four years, just
so long, and like if he doesn't come out and
be good at least good up to you know, great,
then I think people are going to be hating on it.
(32:40):
And it's like that's really not resourceful at this point.
It does give AMMO to the wrong people, that's for sure. Yeah,
and I hate them and I just love them not
having AMMO. When that when that old bat Ball Loser
was like I'm quitting NASCAR, and NASCAR was like, who
the funk are you? That was beautiful, Like more of that,
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more of that. Uh, you have been running a sports podcast,
Like I said, with your husband, I was lucky enough
to have a title called no Sports even if there
are some sports. Now, what has it been like trying
to find content during this this work stoppage? You know,
I think we like the process of leaving our home
to go do it somewhere else, Like we are trapped
together in this home and now we are co workers too,
(33:24):
and so that's kind of tough to wrap your mind around.
And as I admitted, I have no skills, so I
am the least trained coworker. I am like the loser
of the office now in my own home. Um, but
I carry I carry that with Fride. I don't mind.
And our show, luckily is we're talking about things that
have happened in the past. We're like ranking greatest comebacks,
(33:47):
greatest uniforms, greatest w n b A players, and so
it's been kind of fun to look back and enjoy
a lot of things that I've forgotten about. We just
did greatest stuff humentaries, and our guest jam L. Johnson
had documentary times like yeah, I still need to see that,
And so it is kind of nice. I've been able
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to make a list of stuff that I know will
make me feel good to watch. But sports is really
kind of the only thing that makes me happy a
lot of the time. And without it too, that's been
especially hard. And I do have to say the podcast
has helped me a lot. It's like made me feel
(34:29):
happy to talk to friends about sports, even if it
was something that happened ten years ago. Did with the
documentary Sports only top sports documentaries. Yeah, okay, what what what?
What are shocking names? I mean, obviously we know hoop dreams.
You know they're the obvious, right. So my number one
was this documentary called Schools, which is basically about how
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fucked up the n C double A is. And I
think we all at some point maybe came from a
place in our brain where it was like nothing more
valuable than a free education. And it's like that is
a lie that we have been sold so they could
trick people into three services and create a twenty two
billion dollar industry on the backs of mostly black athletes.
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And it's a really, really great documentary. We also talked
about Undefeated, which I think is sort of like the
seed that made Last Chance You and Cheer and all
of those types of stories even possible now exactly. And
And I think, I, God, I wish maybe you know
more about this, but I know that during this whole
thing where any news that's not related to the end
(35:37):
of the world sort of gets buried, I do believe
there are a couple of states that are close to
allowing college football players to take endorsements. Yes, so California
was actually the very first state. It passed. I believe
back in January it was. It was right before we
went into quarantine. And they will be able to make
money off of I think their likeness and end um
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be able to like read benefits when they are used
in video games anything like that. And and California doing
that is a huge deal because there's a lot of
giant schools out here that A kids want to be
recruited by to come live in beautiful weather and play
at usc U c l A like that sounds like
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a good deal. And b it's a large enough state
that the n C Double A can't just really say
we're not going to deal with you anymore. So I
think the hope is California can pull the rest of
the country and and some of them kicking and screaming, screaming.
I can't imagine Alabama wants to give up their hold
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on free college football labor, but they very well may
have to. I hate I hate kills me. I mean
as an abandoned fan. I mean it's funny because Los
Angeles being upfront. It's like Charles O'Bannon had sued for
the Double A video game because basically they had his
jersey number. It looked just like him. They didn't have
to pay him because they said it wasn't his likeness,
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which was crazy. Uh. And and I also think like
the argument of their getting a free education, which is
just a painful argument, but that might hold weight when
they weren't making billions of dollars from the sport. Uh.
And the coaches weren't making tens of millions of dollars,
Like you might be able to get me if you're
if you're you know, making a small amount of money
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off of the sport. But at this point, these teams
are keeping the university afloat. Absolutely. Yeah, you could make
that argument for lacrosse perhaps, but most of the highest
paid people in every single state are college football coaches.
And that is obscene and crazy when you think that
they're quote unquote employees make zero dollars. And you also
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see the G League and and kind of um, the
youngest ball I always get the ball boys confused in
my mind their name LaMelo, lament Low, it's I think
it's I thought, who oh god, So I mean there
are the the G League is paying real money, and
that is going to be an alternative. And if you
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see college basketball start to fall. You hope you start
to see college football go the same way. But it's
it's insane. With everything we know about how much money
they make and the CTE like science, we have now
to ask young men to put their physical wellness on
the line and pay them no money. That just can't
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keep happening. I'm telling you that's an argument we could
make for some of the non Lebrons and the non
gionesis from from COVID as well. I mean, these guys,
you know, some of the guys who aren't b zillionaires
and going out there are sort of contract guys. They're
not getting paid enough to face this this disease either.
And you see baseball having such a difficult time coming
to an agreement, and I am really hopeful that will
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see basketball, And I know that that's a selfish desire,
but it is a real reality that this plan that
is in place that felt like it was going to
happen may fall apart. Uh. Lastly, I want to tell
people one of my favorite moments in SP's history. You
were part of the staff when Peyton Manning was the host.
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You were hired because you're goddamn hilarious and know so
much about sports. But how much of a secret did
you keep your Peyton Manning fandom because I was there
when you finally told him after weeks of working with
him what he means to you tell people. The process
of what you had to go through to hide that. Well,
I'm from Indianapolis and I'm the biggest cult fan. I
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mean truly. My Instagram got hacked this weekend and and
then I got it back and everyone was like, how
do we know it's you? And I put the picture
of the cults and everyone was like, it's you, Like
I love I love them. I would, truly, I would.
I've told Dwight for me, I would give him organs
like I'm so. But this was a really important, cool job,
and I didn't want Peyton to think that I was
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crazy or we or look at me different because I
was from a place that has a statue of him
that I would kiss, even in a pandemic um, and
so I just kept like I didn't even plan on
keeping it a secret that long, but I just was like,
I think, I'm just not going to tell hone and
then I'll just be a regular old gal. And then
once the show was really over, I did tell him,
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and he was so sweet. I just remember, he goes,
why didn't you tell me? It was just so cute.
We all had had dinner with him. Yeah, we had
dinner with him alone. There were times you could have
easily brought up how much how important he was. Do
you know whenever he would come in the room and
then leave, if all of you would look at me
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and be like you love him, like I would get flushed.
It was so um Yeah, I felt like maybe j
Lo and Maide in Manhattan, I was really keeping up
a ruse for Jumps myself. Well, you did incredible and
I'm so happy to talk to you, and people should
check out the Greatest. It is an I heart radio
companion to our show as all out there in the
sports world. And I'm happy to have you on and
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and and to be able to talk to you. I
know we lost a mutual friend and an incredible producer
from the SPS Moura Mant during this entire COVID run.
And uh, I know I texted you about it, but
what a what an awful loss? I mean in sports
as a as a woman, there's so you people you
feel like you have to look up to and Moura
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was not even like a woman in sports. She just
was the SPS and the fact that she was a
badass woman only made her legend, I think, grow even more. Yeah,
I really hit me a lot harder than I ever
would have expected. I'm going to miss her tremendously, and
working with other producers, it's like I'm going to be
able to point out all the things that made her
the best producer to work for. Just I mean, you
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were there the year when we said we wanted we
want the affleck duck in. A day later, a duck
walked into our writers about came in. I know what, whenever,
whenever I see a half dry and green juice, I'm
gonna think of Moura forever. Sweet Well, thank you for
talking to me and said I love to see j
Please missing you, missing you. Take care. The No Sports
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