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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to the No Sports Report, a production of our
Heart Radio Entree Fork Media. Small note. This episode was
recorded prior to the murder of George Floyd and the
resulting global reaction in protests, which is the only reason
it's not mentioned. Something to keep in mind while listening.
My name is Jensen Carp and I'm a sports fan
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and I'm happy to hear the NBA is back. But
I've been staring at the plan now for about two
hours and none of it makes sense. Twenty two teams
all at Disney World, basketball happening all day long, teams
playing multiple times a day, eight regular season games that
a playoff. Dallas might make it, they might not. Space
Mountain might be opened with the kids, Epcot won't be
Can the Magic play just so? Orlando makes sense? Have
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any players seeing the Florida project. I'm filled with questions,
which is good because I can get answers as I
continue to talk to athletes and sports industry professionals about
what they're doing right now, hoping to figure out if
fame is competing as much as I am is watching it.
This is the No Sports Report. The Todd Father. Todd
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Fraser is a major league baseball sweetheart, and not just
for his upbeat, positive attitude and willingness to talk to press,
but also because he hits dingers. He was an All
Star in both two thousand fourteen and two thousand fifteen
and won the Home Run Derby in fifteen as a
Cincinnati Read in his home stadium. He since played for
the White Sox, where he hit forty home runs and
then made stops on both of his native teams as
a born New Yorker with the Yankees and the Mets.
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But he just signed on to join the Texas Rangers
for the season, even if he's still worry about how
that will come together. On this episode, we talked about
his past as a Little League World Series superstar, are
shared love for Dan Marley and his reasonable price on cameo.
We're taking this one past the Warning Track with Tod
Fraser on the No Sports Report from Godd Fraser to
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accept Press one. Hello, Todd, what's going on? I'm doing okay,
I'm surviving. I want to know if you are and
where you're quarantined and with who right now? Yeah, I'm
I'm in Tom Geven, New Jersey with my three kid Blake,
Kylie and Grant and my wife and we're just chilling
out in this warm weather today. Man, having a good time. Okay,
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three kids, what what ages are we looking at? Like?
It's six? Kindly as four and Grant as a year
and a half old. Okay, this is that's an intense run.
What what is that like in in the house at
twenty four hours a day? You know, the four and
six year old are mostly good. You know, they'll have
their the meltdowns. But the one and a half year old, man,
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because the two older ones have been around with baseball
and been from town to town and been out and
they don't mind sleeping anywhere. But now feel like my
youngest is not getting that responsibility or you know, distance
from home, so it's a little harder when we try
and do something. Uh, you know, he makes it a
little tougher. So we missed having the babysitter at home
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here helping us out. But we're making to do and
uh we're we're up in the bus. We're making some
stuff out and having a good time. And uh, like
I said, once the weather gets warm like this, when
get outside more and enjoy the schools almost over, So
schools over on the twelfth and we'll go from there.
And how have you been keeping them busy outside of
home schooling? What are you guys doing to keep them
at least on the ground. Yeah, I mean we have
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some cool things on the weekend. We have moving night
on Friday's, sleep overnight on Saturdays. So it's kind of
unique what we do. Me and my wife, we switched
every couple of days home schooling. Well the other one
takes kids youngest. But you know, a lot of board
games hiding those seeks stuff, and you know, we challenge
each other every night. And I'm not a big guys
letting my kids win, you know, Um, I want them
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to try their hardest and let them know that. You know,
it's not all about winning. You gotta you gotta be
a good loser as well. So you know, one of
those things not everybody gets the tromphy. So whatever the
board game or we're playing ping pong or whatever it is, um,
you know the word. I'm trying to learn them at
a young age to figure it out for themselves to
sen And And speaking of of competitive natures, have you
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been able to stay in shape during this downtime? Yeah?
For me, I work out every other day. Um, I
literally just got done with the work out. Now, I
worked out perfect, try and hit two times a week
and get outside as much as I can when the
weather is good. In Jersey, you never know what you're
gonna get, So days like this, I'll probably hit tomorrow morning,
and uh, you know, I got a couple of guys
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will throw me a live pitching to get prepared to
take some ground balls and where we go. Because you
live near your brothers who are also were in our
baseball players, so you're able to sort of throw with them. Yes, yes,
so my older brother Charlie, who I I pretty much
hit with for the for the two times a week. Yes, definitely,
that's great. It's very lucky. I know you're a big
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sports guy in general, you especially basketball. I know you
caught the last Dance. How much do you miss the
NBA playoffs? For me, it's been it's been the hardest
part of no sports right now, honestly. Um, to be honest,
I'm more of a college guy. I used to love
watching the NBA back when when Jordan's you know, when
I was ten, eleven, twelve, fifteen years old, I was
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a big Jordan's but big Charles Barkley fan. You know
the Knicks of the Old Age and the nineties with Stark,
Anthony Mason, Patrick, going, Charles Oakley, the name a few.
I love those games, that competitive nature, you know. I
you know, I watched the NBA you know championship. Don't
get me wrong, but I'm a big college basketball fan,
a big Syracuse basketball fan, and Jim Beheim is one
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of my good friends, and I love watching those teams. Yeah,
I mean, I guess in the same vein having no
March madness, having no attorney has been a basketball in general.
I feel like I'm going through withdrawals. Devastating. Honestly, it
devastated because March is one of my favorite months of
the year besides Christmas. And uh that's the time you
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get to fill out your brackets and talk to Smack
and hopefully your team moves on. But you know, it
is what it is. We've got something bigger than what
we can control right now. So there's always next year,
as they said. And I speaking of talking Smack, I
was proud to see you online making sure there was
no Dan Marley slander on Twitter. Why are people sleeping
on sunder Dan? Listen? People don't understand he was a beast.
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I mean he I was a big Sun. Wherever Charles
Buckley went, that was the team I was a fan of.
And you know when he went to the Phoenix Suns,
the next thing, you know, I'm a Phoenix Suns fan.
So thunder Dan. I mean, he's he had a great
restaurant out there in Arizona too, as well, Marley's. But
you know, people like to sleep on guys like that
because they don't get talked about much, and they feel
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like back in the day, if you weren't Michael Jordan,
you weren't good. But you know, Jordan played against some
of the top dogs that we're ever going to see
play this game, and you know that old debate with
him and Lebron, and I just don't understand how people
can say Jordan wasn't the best over Lebron James. I mean,
let's go on just defensive stats alone. I mean, let's
not forget about offense. The guys are like nine or
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ten time defensive Player of the Year, which people forget.
You know, they know he's he averaged like forty points
the game. But I feel like some of these guys
back in the day, would would beat some of the
guys definitely that are playing. Now, why Barkley, what spoke
to you from Charles Barkley? Yeah, I mean that's a
good question. I kind of let him make my game
after him. You know, it wasn't the biggest guy, but
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I had to play down low as well at a
young aid because I was either the tallest kid on
the team or you know, I felt like I was
the mountain round a rebound every time I went in there.
I kind of kind of wanted to get all the rebounds.
And um, he was a guy that he wasn't the biggest,
but I love looking up to a guy like that,
and um, you know, I just that was basically it. Well,
you talked about your childhood. You you first entered the
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sports world as a preteen as a star on the
Toms River Little League Championship team. Now, in because the pandemic,
the Little League World Series has been canceled along with
the regional attorneys. How devastating is that for you to hear?
Of all people, very devastating. I feel bad for these
kids because I remember when I was nine years old,
my brother Jeff one I said, three years guys this
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is gonna be us. And you know, I had two
my buddies there who we knew we're gonna be on
the team. That was the biggest dream I wanted to
do in three years was to play in Williams Sports.
And at the end of the day, you know, if
it didn't happen, I think I'd be very, very upset,
and um, you know, I wouldn't know how to handle it.
So I wish him the best and I hope they
understand it was tough times. But you know, things do happen.
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And how much did that experience like shape you as
a I mean a player, but even more as a man,
Like are are you still in touch with those dudes?
Like I just see it's such a large part of
your origin story. I talked to probably three of the
guys for sure, over over the years, and uh talk
about baseball and what they're doing. Everybody's pretty much scattered around,
you know, but yeah, we do keep in touch and
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every five years we try and have something together. And
now we can have a few root beers here too
as well now because we're over the age. So we
try to get together hit a bar up or a
restaurant and have a good time to be your first
season with the Texas Rangers. Obviously spring training was cut short.
Does that hinder the team chemistry you were hoping to
build on a new team. No, Honestly, I thought our
team chemistry was awesome. I was there for a little
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over a month. Everybody seemed to bond. Well. We got
a good veteran corps with myself included, and we've got
a lot of good younger guys that I want to learn.
I mean they want to literally sit down and pick
your brain, like Joey Gallo, Willie Calhoun, nixt. So like,
we got guys that want to learn and want to
be the best. So for me, I fit in real well.
My personality was there, and I'm pretty excited once we
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do start to see how the season kicks off. Are
you guys doing anything to sort of keep that going
during the break keeping in touch? Yeah, we have. We
have some video calls that we do. We email each other.
We have an email pretty much every day to go
over some Scotter reports and stuff like that. Are our
manager Texas all the time? And uh, you know like
that just some some funny banter back and forth, play
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some video games, out a video game challenge. I didn't
play because they got the three kids and I don't
play those games. But uh, you know, it's fun to
talk to smack and to keep the camaraderie going. Yeah,
it's better to not play against your teammates. Joey Gallo
has proven he is a beast at the show. You
do not want to play him. He's unbelievable. I mean, uh,
I think he's in an apartment by himself down in Texas,
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so he's got nothing mouse to do besides worked out
and get on that video screen. With all the rumors
of an adjusted season looming, there does appear to be
two player camps emerging. You appear to be on the
more popular side. I saw that you retweeted Max Scherzer's
recent tweet regarding pay cuts. Where do you stand today
about getting back on the field without a vaccine or
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a cure or sort of like a real I guess
an offer to the players union? That quote you know
makes sense? Really? Yeah, I think first and foremost, it's, uh,
we got to think about our health when I when
I think about playing again, the biggest thing for me
is I think about my three kids. You know, say
we start playing and we go through something like this.
Two weeks later, we know, we think we've made a
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huge mistake. My wife's not gonna let me live at
home at least for two weeks. So you know, is
there is there a plan for me to live somewhere else?
So I gotta four cups of money? There's all different
types of questions that have to go into this whole process.
And you know, people talk about money. Yeah, that comes
into it, of course, but um, there's principle that we
have to go by. And uh, it's one of those
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things where we have a bunch of guys that all
have different opinions and a bunch of owners that have
different opinions, and we have to figure out a way
to come together, not only just for you know, us players,
but for the owners too. It's it's very difficult times
and I think both sides have to come together and
you know, figure it out. Yeah. I mean, I guess
as someone who's just a sports fan and keeps the
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health of you guys in mind, it's like the one
that scares me the most is it doesn't sound like
there's any proposition for if a team has an outbreak
and for you being in New York. You know, at
least New Jersey and New York City, you've seen, you know,
the hotspots, like something has to be in place. Yeah,
I mean, what are we gonna do if, say we're
playing Seattle and Seattle and somebody gets it on our team, Say,
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I get it A might not to be stuck in
a hotel in Seattle for two weeks. Uh. You know
examples like that where I feel like we're on the
right track. I feel like we really are, you know,
with getting um, you know, tested every day, staying six
ft apart. I know they already got things set in
place for the locker rooms and stuff like that. So
where I'm the right path, I still think it's gonna
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take a little time. But you know, the more, the
faster we work, I think the better will be. You know,
time stamps are tough because when you tell somebody like
I'm getting something something worked on in the back ye already,
guys said it's gonna be done by October. You're not
done by October. I'm gonna gona be a little tick off.
So that's why I'm not a big believer in putting
time stamps on things. I'm a big believer in getting
it done and then figuring out so we'll see what happens.
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Are you guys being tested now regularly or that's something
they want to start once the season starts rolling. I
think it's once the season starts rolling, So you know,
I haven't been tested. But uh, you know, they had
something where they gave out seven or eight thousand two
staff workers and players too that thought they needed it.
It was a necessity and that was about it. But
I know, you know, from what I'm hearing, they'll be
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millions on millions and millions of tests that we're gonna
have and where we could be okay with that every day.
Did you ever think, you know, you're you're a big
sports guy like me, grew up watching it. Obviously you're
playing it a lot better than me at least. Uh,
did you ever think people would look to sports like this?
It does seem like people are like, are we okay? Okay?
Is sports coming back? It's almost like the second question. Yeah,
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it's it's pretty funny because I mean, my wife, you know,
could care less about watching sports on TV, and I'm
a big google about watching it on TV. Yeah, I
believe in it. I think sports brings people together. It's
something to talk about it. You know, being a fan
of a sport, it's big time. You know, you think
about basically what goes into being a fan, you know,
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a die hard fan especially, you know, when I played
in New York. There are some die hard New York
fans out there, and if they don't get their fixing
sports man, it feel like the day's loss. So yeah,
I definitely believe in it. And um, you know, we're
definitely missing. I think bringing sports together and having teams
out there is a positive and I feel like, hey,
if they can play sports, you know the world's gonna
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be better. And that's just you know, in my opinion
for sure. Yeah, and you spoke about New York a bit.
You grew up in New Jersey idolizing New York baseball
like I spoke with Adam Odovino recently, and I think
both of you guys have lived out crazy childhood dreams
very similarly. But you you took it one step further.
You not only played for the Yankees like Adam, you
also played for the Mets. That's like if I did
a song with Rundy m C and Best Boys Dreams
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coming true. How how big of a deal was that
for you and your family? Very very important. But I'll
be honest, I never really thought I would play friend
of New York team, especially when you get drafted you're
you really think that's the only team you're gonna play for.
With the Cincinnati Red but then getting traded to the Yankees,
I got a monster ton of guys that are you know,
probably of my friends of Yankee fans and Mets fans.
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So you know, I felt on top of the world
and down switch I got both Jersey tinking about man Cave.
I couldn't be happer. I've been blessed along this great
growth of baseball, and uh that was probably the toppings
on the kake beside one in the World Series. Without
sports in your life right now, how do you feel
you're getting your fix? Like even just as a fan,
because so many people that I've talked to on this
show are at their core more than just a player.
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They're a fan for me. Um, you know a couple
of things, you know, I like to watch on TV,
the old games. I'm trying to, you know, stay ahead
of the game. I just got a system put in
called win Reality, which you can. Basically, it's a virtual reality.
You get to watch or you get to pretend you're
in a batter's box, but goggles on and you get
the face against any picture you want. So you know
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every team we played first, you know, I get to
see all the pictures, see the spin on their ball,
and you know, get my timing down. It's really awesome.
Me and my my son and I used it all
the time, and you know we go outside and play.
You know, I pitched to my son all the time
and try and get his focus on baseball too. So
it's basically like a virtual reality video game. But they
have footage of every picture in the Major's throwing and
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with their pitches and everything. Yeah, it's unbelievable. So you're
in a major league stadium and so you want to
face now was synderguard today? You know he has the
long hair. Uh, all his antics are in there. You know,
whether he keeps his arm up or down, And it's
like facing a real, live major league picture with the
same speeds and um, you know, it's big for time
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and it's big for seeing to spin on rotation on balls,
and I know pictures aren't happy about it right now,
but you know, mostly all the teams are coming together
and getting and I got my own at home, so
it's pretty cool. Well, I I feel weird that I
was stuck with baseball stars in my whole life. Now
I feel like Nintendo did me wrong. Yes, you brought
up some players not being happy with an unfair advantage.
I wanted to know you now share a state with them,
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wondering if you think the break that the stoppage and
work is helping the astros or is it hurting them
or people forgetting what happened? Do you do you think
this is gonna be a break for them. Yeah, I
feel like they're going to get off Scotch free if
you wanted the truth, because you know, I was talking
with Sussan and Wllman, and um, you know there's gonna
be no fans in the stands to yell at them.
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You know, guys that test positive for steroids, all of
a sudden they get crushed during the stadium, which is
well deserved, and um, they're basically getting away with it
Scotch free. Nobody got suspended, and they're they're not gonna
feel any pain for many fans, you know, yelling are
screaming at them. So people are saying, oh, you know,
just you know, they're probably saying, you just let everything go.
You know, we made a mistake, but you know, some
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things you just can never let go. And you know,
that's something that I had a chance to win a
World Series or make a two World Series and never
did because the teams cheated. So um, it's still very
it's still still uh still lingers. Yeah, I do think
there is a part of me that wonders because just
recently they've started to pop up more on social media
and they're being a little more vocal and I've seen,
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you know, kind of the astros have been gone for
a long time, and I think now that they know
no fans are going to be around there, they're not
that they're being chippy, but they're being a lot more
out in public. Yeah. People say time as a presidency
heal all wounds, and uh, you know, I believe that thoroughly.
But you know, when we start playing, there's something that
you know, people are gonna forget, and that's something I
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won't presure. Todd, as someone who's played in the World Series,
could you ever imagine, you know, sort of going through
with that big of an event in your life without
any fans in the audience. Yeah, I mean, listen, how
do you celebrate? Do you put masks on and jump
up and down six ft apart? You know, I don't
know what would happen, but I'll tell you right now,
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I'll take that ring any day of the week, whether
we play sixty games or a D and twenty games,
I'm all for it. You know, you're just have to
celebrate in different ways and spray champagne from six ft apart.
So I'm all for that. That's the exciting part of it.
You never know what can happen this year, and you
know it's one of those years where you just can't
expect anything. Just be ready after this more with the
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Now here's the rest of my chat with All Star
third baseman Todd Frasier. Like I said, this will be
a new team for you this season. It's a one
year deal for you from a business standpoint, if you're
looking at it from your contract, with the season having
so many odd variables, does it scare you to go
out there and prove yourself to a city and a team.
There's no fans, there's a shortened season. Uh. You know
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you hear about these weird divisional mix ups, Like does that?
Does that freak you out of it? No? Not really.
I I'm a guy that can go with the flow.
You know. Are there concerns? Yeah, but you gotta take
what you can take sometimes, And just like I said,
that's why we're preparing right now. We're all professionals in
there's a lot of guys that are worried about that,
and that's why that's we go back to the underlying
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questions that have to be have to be made. You
know what what's going to happen if somebody gets injured,
you know that they go in the fifteen d L
they're missing you know now they're missing the fourth of
the season. So basically, we have a lot of adjustments
I got to be made. I'm gonna go out there
and play the best of my abilities because I want
to still play for two or three or four more
years and play as long as I can, and you know,
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we go from there. But I'm trying not to think
about that once the season does start. Well, you had
a great escalated season last year, so I'm excited to
see where it goes. I do want to ask we
sort of end everything with positive and then something real stupid,
but the positive part. Is there anything anything you think
we've taken on during this pandemic that you believe we
should keep even when this thing is over and done,
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Something that we've adapted to Maybe a couple of things
for me, I think, you know, if we're getting away
from sports, I think wearing a mask to go into places,
I think, is there's something I think we should keep?
I think that and only help and keep America's safe
and healthier. I talked to a lot of people. I said, listen,
once this is all over, we can't take anything for granted.
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And you know, whether that's taking five more minutes out
of your days, your son says, hey, man, that stay
with me for five more minutes where I go to bed.
You know, let's do it, because you know people are
losing lives. Uh. You know, there's a lot of crazy
stuff going on, you know, and you know, whether it's practice,
whether it's school, Give everything you got and you know,
have as much fun, but still take the added time
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that whatever you need, and make sure you do it
to the best your abilities. Because it's something like this
happens again and you didn't take advantage of what you
were doing, you know, before, and now you're doing it now,
it's gonna be a tragedy. So take advantage of what
you can, go the extra mile and enjoy life to
the full. Well said U. I usually have these suggestions
I give people for pandemic, but during quarantine, you did
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something that a lot of athletes have done, and that's
turned to cameo to pass the time, creating these personalized
messages for ends mostly celebrating something you're very good at it.
You are what I call a bargain at a going
rate at seventy dollars for Todd Fraser. So I want
to play a game with you that's called higher or lower.
I'm going to mention a celebrity that is currently on
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cameo and you have to tell me if you think
they are lower or higher than your current rate. Let's go. Okay,
We're gonna start with an easy one. This is Super
Bowl champion Green Bay Packers quarterback Brett Farve. I'm gonna higher.
He is higher. That is three hundred dollars. That is
quite an investment. The is a lot, but he does
respond within five days, which I thought was kind of
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surprising for Brett Farve. Yeah, okay, here we go. Tays
On Day, this is the kid who's saying chocolate rain
on YouTube and went viral. I'm gonna say he under
seventy dollars. He is under seventy dollars. He is forty dollars.
So your two for two already. Tas On Day has
a bit a bit of a lower number. He's not
as impressive as you and his samples though, So that's good.
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There's some guys, there's some guys on nothing to pick
on him, but the guys that I feel like they
read it off the script. You've got to come from
the heart. Man, I don't do it at all, you know,
I agree. Let's go to musician, former in Sync member
Lance Bass. Now keep in mind, this is not justin
timber Lake. This isn't even J. C. Shauz. This is
Lance Bass. Is he higher or lower? You know? I
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feel like he's really close to me. Don't ask me why.
I'm gonna say he's around. Man, I'm gonna says, I'll
go a little bit over. Well, I agree with you,
he should be that, but he is at two hundred
and forty nine dollars. Where do you get the front?
Where do you get that? That's a great question, he thinks,
seeing two fifties too much? I guess all right. Next
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one is a character actor named Larry Thomas, who you,
as in New Yorker will know very well. He played
Soup Nazi on Seinfeld. Is he higher or lower than you? Yes,
I'm gonna say he's lower because over for a while, well,
he would be wrong. He's eighty dollars. Man, I say,
you know what, I gotta move my fights up. Man
of his conversation. I'm going up to like a d well.
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There's no no soup for you, all right, Last I
got I got a couple more. Actually, this one is
Doug e Fresh, the rapper, the entertainer, the the show.
You know, he's great, he's he's got to be under
very little under. He's sixty two dollars, so he's eight
dollars below you. Again, where does he come up with
sixty two? I mean, listen, I don't know. I don't know.
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It's confusing, but hey, maybe it adds up to something
else that he needs. All right, if he beat boxes,
I think that is a good deal. Alright. Moving on,
Dr Sandra Lee. This is someone we know is the
pimple Popper. She's on YouTube as well as TLC. I
love it. I love it. She hired lower than you.
I'm gonna say she's hired just because of the show.
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Two hundred dollars. She's she's more than more than do
wh man, she's I wonder how many she's gotten so far,
and you know people pay that price. I just I
just don't know if I can never go that high.
I can't imagine that I would even buy it if
I if I wasn't able to see actual pimples being popped.
There you go, that makes sense. Lastly, this is Selfie Kid.
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I don't know if you remember him. He was from
the two thousand eighteen Super Bowl. He took a selfie
with Justin Timberlake, who's come up twice during this game. Surprisingly,
but I mean that's that's all he's known for. Selfie Kid.
Higher or lower than you. I just got a feeling
it's like way too high. But I'm gonna say he's not.
He is. He is lower than you, and he has
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fifteen dollars dollars good, you know what. I respect him.
I respect that for him. He's keeping it logical. He's
he's not quite lance pass about things. But I appreciate,
appreciate you talking to me and playing with me today,
and please stay safe with your kids. And I'm hoping
to see you guys out on the field. But I'm
also hoping that it's a situation that makes the most
sense for you. I appreciate that big man that's talking
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