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Speaker 1 (00:12):
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(01:19):
comes to talking about the NBA. But we're gonna start
off today's show with the NFL and the New York Jets,
who fired head coach Robert Sala on his fourth season
after a two and three start in a twenty and
thirty six overall record. They've named defensive coordinator Jeff Oldbridge
as the interim head coach. The Jets have now leveraged
their future on old Bridge, offensive coordinator Nathaniel Hackett, and

(01:40):
quarterback Aaron Rodgers, who many blamed for Sala's departure. Now,
despite the two and three starting, the upheaval and the
coaching ranks, the Jets have a chance to play for
first place in the AFC East when they take on
the Buffalo Bills on Monday Night Football. Let me say
this real quick, I'm not blaming Aaron Rodgers for Robert
Salad getting fired. I'm blaming Robert Sala for getting fired.
But what I will tell you is this, for Aaron

(02:01):
Rodgers to act like he was shocked and surprised and
had absolutely nothing to do with it, that's just impossible
to believe. It's just impossible to believe. Not saying he
went and called him to be fired, but your body
language on your sideline, your body language with him, your
level of frustration that you're exhibiting the way that you've
been playing, which is not up to your standards, combined
with Robert Salah, who was elite defensively because the Jets

(02:21):
are a top notch defense in the National Football League,
so he had a lot to do with what was
structured defensively there with Old Bridge. So we got to
give credit to Salaur wedge due. But when you're the
head coach in the National Football League, ladies and gentlemen,
you got to be an overseer. You got to be
somebody that shows you can handle defense, offense, special teams
in terms of decision making and when it came to

(02:43):
stuff on the offensive side of the ball, Sala just
didn't seem to be there. When it came to having
the respect of players, it just didn't seem to be
there when it came to being demonstrative enough to make
sure that you could provoke change when was necessary so
y'all could play better. It just didn't seem to be there.
So Woody Johnson to me, didn't make the wrong decision.
Now for them people that will sit up there and say, well,

(03:05):
guess what, why Now, keep in mind Whatody Johnson din't
hire him. Woody Johnson's brother, Christopher, that's the one. Christopher
Johnson is the one that hired Robert Seller. Woody Johnson
was the ambassador to the United Kingdom during the Trump
administration while all of that was going on, and so
he didn't have a lot to do with the hiring.

(03:26):
And he told us that when he said he had
reservations for the last couple of years. Now, why would
he say that you just hired him a couple of years?
What the hell is that about? So I don't believe
that for one second. Now, having said all of that,
let's say this. It's on Aaron Rodgers. Now you gotta
find a way to step your game up and get
it done, because guess what. New York ain't been to

(03:50):
the playoffs since twenty ten. They've had a horrific quarterback
play over the years. You're certainly not that. But they
ain't gonna give Aaron Rodgers any favors either. This ain't
Green Bay. You can't be telling people lags, ri la
acts relaxed. Nobody won't to hear that shit. Uh uh,
you got the ball, bro You got the ball. Now.
In order to do that, you probably need another receiver.

(04:11):
And I get there, by the way. For Nathaniel Hackett,
his father was an elite college coach who coached in
the NFL under the Bill Belichicks, the Marty Schottenhammers of
the world, Bill Walsh is rather of the world, stuff
like that. And so when you look at the fact
that this man has had multiple jobs as an offensive
coordinator and one as a head coach, considering his level

(04:32):
of ineptitude, it is some It's the epitome of nepotism.
I just need to say that about Nathaniel Hackett. I'm
gonna get that out the way. Now. Let me move
on to what Aaron Rodgers may really really need, and
that's rad is wide receiver Devonte Adams, who wants out
of Las Vegas and reportedly wants to be reunited with
either Derek Carr now engine in New Orleans, or formal
quarterback Aaron Rodgers in New York. Like I've just been saying,

(04:54):
my Steelers, the Bills, the Chiefs also have interest, according
to reports, I think the Baltimore Ravens should be on
that list as well. I personally don't think the Jets
would be the wisest move for Adams to make. Damn
your personal feelings. Damn it now, Aaron Rods can flinging
that football and I get all of that, but you
got a future to think about beyond this shit. And

(05:15):
who the hell knows what quarterback the Jets are gonna
have if Aaron Rodgers decided to walk away after this season, You,
Davontae Adams, my bro, you got to be smarter than that.
You should be looking at the Buffalo Bills because of
Josh Allen. He ain't going anywhere and he's durable and reliable.
You should be looking at Lamar Jackson in Baltimore. You
should be looking at Patrick Mahomes in Kansas City. That's

(05:36):
the three places you should be looking. And dear, I
say Dallas since they got a sixty million dollars quarterback
in dak Prescott. I ain't saying you're gonna get him now,
but the point is, those are the kind of teams
that you should be looking at about. And obviously dak
is way down on my list compared to the three
aforementioned quarterbacks I mentioned. Hell no, but that's where you
need to be going. It ain't about your love of

(05:57):
fan friendship with the quarterback. Patrick Mahomes can figure out
how to get you the ball. Josh Ally can figure
out how to get you the ball. Blamar Jackson can
figure out how to get you the ball. That's where
you should be going, bro, That's where you should be
going to stop playing, stop playing. I know, listen, I
gave you proces for going to Sin City after being

(06:18):
in Green Bay, where they ain't got shit but cheese.
I didn't blame you for leaving Green Bay and wanting
to go to Sin City. Get your groove on, a
lot of stuff that gets happens in Sin City stays
in Sint City. I got that. But now that you've
gotten over that, you got to find yourself in a
winning situation. You too elite to be at home watching
the postseason while some of these cats are playing, because

(06:40):
you can't pick the right quarterback to throw you the football.
You gotta do better, Davonte Adams. You big Tom Paulerman,
I don't know if you can trust the Rogers situation
in New York, and you damn sure don't need to
be going to New Orleans with Derek Carr. He still
got to get the ball to Chrysal Lave, still got
to give the ball to Alvin Kamara. So I'm just saying, Baltimore, Buffalo,

(07:05):
Kansas City, think about that, bro, think about it. Joining
me now to discuss all things NFL. It's my brother.
He's a Hall of Fame wide receiver. All he did
was catch touchdown passes, but that's not all he did
in life. He just got back from London, bright of that.
He was in Paris at Patty. You remember, the wife
wanted to go to the Patti, So he went to Patti,

(07:27):
and then he went to London. And then he called
me from London bragging about the Vikings when they had
intercepted Aaron Rodgers, not once but twice, acting like he
was gonna get blown out of the building. And then
I ain't hear from him when the game got scary
scary close by the way, I'm talking about the one
old Chris Carter. What's up CC, what's going on?

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (07:46):
What's up? Man?

Speaker 3 (07:48):
It's good, man, it's good. I didn't like I'm all
for the Vikings winning. I didn't think that we're starting
to retire coaches now.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
I mean, I didn't think of telling me about beating
up on the Jests like that.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
I didn't think that the ending result would be that
Robert Salid would lose his job.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
How shocked were you that Woody Johnson decided to let
go of Solad just five games into the season.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
I mean very shocked.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
If you look at the Johnson's record as far as
with the Jets the last twenty five years.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
Now, that's act where it's not.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
Good, but at least from a coaching standpoint, even the
worst coaches they've had, none of them they fired this
early in the season or early in the season, so
it lets you know that they are definitely not satisfyed
with the problem and they do believe in regardless of
what we think, that this team might have a chance.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
That's the only reason why.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
You would fire a coach with Aaron Rodgers healthy and
you only be in two and three and if you
beat Buffalo next Monday night, you're tying for first in
your division.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
So they feel like they can still starve with this season.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Well, you dann right. They got a chance. First of all,
they got in the leade defense. Secondly, and more importantly,
you still got Aaron Rodgers. The Buffalo Bills isn't looking
great over the last two weeks, so we know what
happened with Miami. Since two is going down, we're looking
at the rest of the AFC. There are people there
who could be had, even Kansas City five, and those
still look vulnerable because most of their games was tight
before they ran roud in New Orleans on Monday Night.

(09:15):
But let me get a bit personal here. Did you
think Salad deserved to be fired? And do you believe
that Aaron Rodgers had absolutely nothing to do with him
being five?

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Well, I think both of those things are probably true.
First of all, you're not going to fire ahead come
without consideration from a forty year old veteran quarterback like
Anon Rockers, Like when I decided to leave Green Bay.
We're in partnership, like we're trying to bring a Super
Bowl to the Jets. But I'm gonna look at all

(09:50):
the personnel decisions Aaron Proctors had a hand in now
because those decisions weren't good last year. He wants a
slock receiver after one of his former slock receivers there
and bring Bay Randall. Rando kyb was washed up like
he didn't have no good football left in him. And
if you look at what he's doing now Alan Lazard,

(10:12):
I'll watch some of the other night in London. He's
not that explosive as he would think for a six
five twenty five pound arte receiving.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
You know.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
So Aaron Rodgers has played the role in the person there.
He played the role in the offensive coordinator being in.
So now you just want me to close my eyes
and my ears everything I've ever observed in my life.
To think that he didn't have anything to do with
the coach being gone, that I would be a little
not easy to think that.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
I'm just saying, man, where's my brother? That's like, come on, man,
I don't see that guy to it. You know, you
look a little mellow. You know, say he was in
London and stuff like that. For flying overseas might be
a little jet lag. You look at a little mellow today.
I'm just wondering. You seem a bit nicer than I
thought you was gonna be about this subject.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
Well, the thing about is I realized that you can't
have too yelling brother on the chef. So I come
in with the information like these are facts the Jets
are don't do what they want to do. But you
also know you're trying to judge an organization that is
not good at football. I mean all the things that
they've done general management through the years, drafted players through

(11:17):
the years, like they didn't look like a super Bowl
caliber team regard also of what the owner thinks about them.
But when you look at how bad the offenses have
been with Robert Salad as the head coach, but you
can't be encouraged by Nathaniel Hackett by what he did
those last two years in Green Bay, what he did
with Denver, and what he's done with the Jets. So

(11:39):
for me, I'm going to keep the coach because I
don't believe that there's a solution in the building, especially
being that close and having very good personnel that the
Jets do have very good.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Personal Before I ask you this question about Aaron Rodgers
and I get off this subject, i'd be remissing neglecting
to play sound from Aaron Rodgers. He appeared on the
Pat McAfee show on ESPN around a little bit after
twelve noon today, and listen to what Aaron Rodgers had
to say on the Pat McAfee show. Check it out.
Before I ask you my question.

Speaker 5 (12:09):
I would love to offer you the floor to kind
of explain how yesterday went down, your thoughts on it all,
and how you think we got to this point that
we're at with the New York Jets organization in twenty
twenty four.

Speaker 6 (12:21):
Yeah, I mean, yesterday was a day that reminds you
of the simple fact that all of us who played
know all too well, and that's that it's a tough business.
It's a beautiful profession, it's incredible, it's done so much
for our lives, but it's also a really tough business.
I love Coach Sala. We have a very solid relationship

(12:45):
we have since, you know, I met him in twenty
twenty one and had a nice conversation when they came
and visited us for joint practices. He was a big
reason why I came to the Jets. You know, I
felt like the team, you know, was a team had
a relationship with coach Hackett, obviously, and I really liked

(13:05):
coach Salah. As far as any of the ridiculous allegations
out there, I'm not going to spend more than one
sentence in response to it, and that is that I
resent any of those accusations because they're patently false. And
and uh, it's interesting the amount of power that people
think that I have, which I don't. But I love

(13:30):
Robert and uh, it was, you know, one of those
days yesterday.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
See this is this this stew's my language, cec. This
is the shit that pisses me off about Aaron Rodgers.
Now we know who's the brother that coined him. He's
a bad man. That would be me, you know, damn it.
I was accused of having a man crush on this
brother because I got that much love for him. I
think he's one of the greatest throwers of the football
in the game of football has ever seen. Okay, but

(13:56):
I hate when he does that. All right, Oh, you're
not gonna dignify response. You younger than Lah. I mean,
you have nothing to say that you love it that
people think you have that amount of power. Well, what
the hell is that? Then? You Hackett be doing being there.
If you don't have that kind of power, what are
you talking about? I mean, if it makes no sense.
You're the one of the greatest quarterbacks who ever lived.

(14:17):
They gave everything to get you to the franchise, and
now it's ridiculous for us to surmise that if the
coach was fired, that Woody Johnson didn't talk to you
first before you made the decision, or somebody didn't talk
to you first. See how much do you believe Aaron
Rodgers when he takes this position?

Speaker 4 (14:37):
Well, this is what I do know.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
I'm not going to get into an open media debate
with Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
Did he have anything to do with it? I know this.
If you play them better, the coach don't get fired.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
So you do have something to do with the coach,
you know, being fired, and you have tremendous amount of.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
Input on everything going on.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
Inside the organiza to me, if Aaron Rodgers was open
to a more open offense a lot like Tom Brady
was when he went to Tampa Bay. Things weren't going
smooth there. I think they had a bye week week
number eleven. They finally got their offense together. They barely
got into into the playoffs, ended up going.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
To the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Hey Mann was a shell of himself at the end
of his career in then, but you could see the
third leadership and how much guys respected them that they
were able to get get it done and win championships
even though they weren't playing well. Aaron Rodgers is not
moving well in the pocket. Aaron Rodgers is not the
athlete that he was. And just like Dan Marino and

(15:42):
a lot of other great quarterbacks, it's either their scheme
or their legs that start to fail them late in
their career.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
And to me, ay, rod does not have that pop
in his.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Last He cannot get away from people the way he
was in the last two weeks. If you look at
what dem did to him and what the Vikings did
to him, this is a cockey catle bro they getting
raided Glitzen. They're gonna put six man up to the
line of scrimmage. That's what Denver did, exactly what the
Vikings did and compile all those hips against Aaron Rodgers

(16:14):
because that system. They don't have enough hots and breaks
to be able to go against that type of system.
So that was the problem in Green Bay, while the
offense struggled the last two years because Aaron wants to
do what Aaron wants to do, so all these stubborn things.
And by the way, Aaron Rodgers did not great at relationships.

(16:36):
Who's he that great relationship?

Speaker 1 (16:37):
So that's where we're going. Now, that's where we're going.
Now we're gonna go to Dead Abbey route. Now we're
gonna go to Dead Abbey right now. He's not great
for relationships. The Jets ain't better the playoffs since twenty ten.
I don't give it damn about the relationship. They need
to follow whatever the hell he says follow. I mean,
they ain't got anything better to do that GM Joe
Douglass is twenty nine and fifty nine, top of the

(16:58):
second worst record NFL since twenty nineteen with Jacksonville. Only
the Carolina Panthers have been worse. You damn right. They
got to sit up there and listen to Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
When you decide if you're going Aaron Rodgerson as your quarterback,
you are getting married to do things his what And
he's only got one mode you know when you play
that long again green But he got spoiled just like
Brett Fahk. And now this is what you get with
the Jets. When you miss planets. Who's gonna be your quarterback,

(17:32):
who's gonna be your offensive play forward? And you let
him dictate those things? You are married to this bad result.
Like that's one thing about the NFL. Man, there ain't
no bexy strategy, Like there ain't no way to get
out of this, Like typically we most get knocked out
of this distance, and typically our great players end up
going somewhere else, playing in the unfamiliar jersey, playing in

(17:54):
a way that we are unfamiliar with. And that's what
I saw in Lena. He hadn't a dreamed. But it
was not Packer Green that had that Packer.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Now, let's go to your wheelhouse with Davonte Adams wide
receiver extraordinarire once out a. Las Vegas has had a
falling out by all reports with Antonio Pierce, the head
coach who was the interim coach last year. I got
promoted to the head coach. One minute, the players are
looking to walk through a wall for him, run through
a wall for him. Another another year, just a season later,

(18:22):
some players look like they want to throw him into
the damn wall, What the hell is going on in Vegas?
And what do you think about Davonte Adams wanting to leave?

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Well, when you bring him there, he's the best receiver
in football. And then once they're at car because he
came here not just for the money, because Green Bay
were a payer and that other teams were the paper
that he came there to play with his college.

Speaker 4 (18:41):
But but once.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
There at Carr leads if you don't have a competent
quarterback there. When I talked to ad last year at
the Super Bowl, we talked about what are you gonna do?
He's like, I'm gonna get me a quarterback. The better
get you a quarterback because he don't need And when
you don't have a quarterback, why Receivers myself, we are
some of the most selfish specie in the work. And

(19:03):
right now you are seeing what wide receivers do when
you don't put us with they quarterback.

Speaker 4 (19:09):
It ain't us out the money.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
We still want to sack and he still want to win,
but we can't win unless we can get our hands
on the football.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
So we're very, very selfish.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
And that's what you are seeing now in the ultimate
team sport. He's trying to look out what's for the
best interest for himself personally, his own braining, in his
own business.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Doesn't he need to be smarter? You stayed in Green Band,
then you wanted to leave because Aaron Rider couldn't make
up his mind whether he wants to keep playing or retiring.
And with the plethora of places you could have gone,
you decide you want to go to Vegas just because
your boy Derek Carr is there, and he was no
all world kind of quarterback. He was good, but he
was no all world cridter quarterback. You going to Vegas.
Josh McDaniel is dead, he ends up out of there,

(19:53):
Derek Carr ends up out of there. And now you
didn't want to play with the Garoppolos and the o'connos
and of course the go the men's shoes of the world.
So now that the situation is thinking, surmise him for
just a second that Devontae Adams has learned the error
of his ways. Where do you believe the ideal place
is for him to go?

Speaker 3 (20:12):
There's no ideal place for I believe the same what
the Saints have white receivers.

Speaker 4 (20:17):
Derek Carr's not gonna get any better if they get
another wide receiver.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
He goes to the Saints. Now their problem Chrystal Lava.
He's done well though, like he's on his way being
a Pro Bowl player in the third year. Like, why
would you bring another vestment in? They got the young receiver,
the special team player made on Pro last year, Sai Man.
He's got lazy speed number twenty two. Like, so they

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got a nice combination. So then if you bring in
a vessels, sometimes you stunk the growth of younger players.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
I believe they should go to the Jets them and
don't tall put this this thing on.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Hell no, I can't. That is terrible. That is terrible.
The Jets listen. I like him with Garret Wilson, Aaron
Aaron Rodgers throwing them to the football. But Aaron Rodgers
hasn't been what we expected them to be in all
likelihood because he's still recovering from that Killes injuries. He's
a station.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
But who else do they have?

Speaker 1 (21:06):
The Sians Garrett Wilson bro I didn't I agree with that,
But how about Kansas City Rice is out for the year.
How about even though they ain't go traded within the division.
I understand that. How about the Baltimore Ravens. How about
Buffalo with Josh Allen.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
Well, this is the thing, all right, there are many
options that are better than the Jets, that being to me,
all those options Kansas City, Buffalo, and Baltimore. But to me,
I believe that he might be leaning towards a more
personal relationship. I don't know, Devonte Adams, but at this
point in your career, you have both the accurates.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
I would be trying to win.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
The best football coach right, best play caller. The best
scheme is Andy Reed, and it's not even close whoever's second.
So if I could get to Kansas City the less
money and play with the Magistics and mahomes and play
with Andy Reid because they still make football fun.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
Every time I've watched him, the game look was fun.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
And they're a desperate need of a number one receiver
because Travis Kelsey at this eighties will not be able
to do that for the length of the season, So
they still need the number one receiver. So yeah, I
agree with you on them, but I don't know what
makes Devion think Abbams take. To me, it was personal relationships.
Hence the city is a no bringer if he can

(22:26):
get the hell with.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
The personal relations ain't dead, abbey man, He ain't gonna
stay to sit on a damn couch. You gotta play
some football. The brothers too nice, He's too special to
be thinking about them damn personal feelings. He need to
get in the best winning situation and being win an
elite quarterback where you know he gonna be able to
put up digits because he got a quarterback to get
him the damn football. Speaking of extraordinary quarterbacks, it's young

(22:48):
in his career. We only five games in, but his brother,
Jaden Daniels in the Nation's Capital Commanders are four and
one yo. See, they could win the division. Bro, What
what's their ceiling in your eyes? The way this brother's
playing complete seventy seven percent of his past eleven hundred
and thirty five yards three hundred rush yards only trailing

(23:10):
Lamar Jackson. This brother's on another level right now. How
far can you see the Commander's going this year?

Speaker 3 (23:17):
Well, we always have two or three teams that come
from nowhere, and that's one of the things that makes
the NFL special, the draft situation where the worst teams
are getting the best players coming from college football. Now
my scouting department, How can I get one of these
great young quarterbacks because we got them coming into the

(23:37):
league who can throw it better than ever and also
be dual threats.

Speaker 4 (23:42):
How can I get them in my building? Well, the
number one thing you need is you need people to
be able to make mistakes. You need certain people.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
To be all fall in love with the other girl
before you get to the dance floor.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
You ask them to dance and oh, he already took
her out and come to find out ten to fifteen
years he's made a mistake. And that's what you have
in watching it.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
I believe Dan Queen, especially in the second time around
as a head coach, he's one of the most well
inspected defensive minds out there, but as a coach he
relates to the players and what they're trying to do.
I remember doing TV and going in and interview him
before the game and the reception of the players in

(24:21):
Atlantic and their whole vibe that they had around the
organization that if he can get in another champ and
give him a good quarterback, and that's what they have
in James Dannys. Go back to his freshman year Arizona
State with hearn Netlis.

Speaker 4 (24:36):
He was already a dual threat.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
Then you could see, man, if he gained some way,
he could be special and then get in a couple
of years in the SEC A lot like Joe Burrows.
The same thing Man Washington. They got it right. But
also you got to get a little lucky Carolina. You know,
two years ago they decided they're gonna take the guy Frombama, CJ.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
Straft.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
This year we had Caleb Winns. Bear's fell in love
with the best player in this year's draft. It's Jake Dangers.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Let me give you the let me give you the
last word. I mean, you know, I don't feel like it.
It is my damn show. But you know, with you
and your damn vikings and stuff like that, wearing you know,
waving your purple towels and wearing your purple you know,
warm up shirt and all this other stuff, they are
five and zero. I can't front Brian Flora's got he

(25:27):
doing that thing. He's showing that he's a worthy head
coaching candidate in this NFL. You know, we all know
he wanted Justin Herbert instead of two tongue of a
lower in Miami and that precipitated his downfall near South Beach.
But it's a new day, and I didn't expect this
from the Minnesota Vikings. O'Connell. I'll gi him a lot
of credit. He looks like he's a hell of a

(25:48):
head coach Brian Flores is clearly a hell of a
defensive coordinator at five and zero heading into their byery,
what's the realistic expectation for this team in terms of
how far they can go? Last question to.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
You, Well, because now we've been through at least a
third of the season almost you can really start to
see teams with certain treats and identity, like, okay, what
is this team? And we know there are a defensive
dominant team that has multiple pressure loves, the leading the
league in size. I think they got eleven or twelve

(26:21):
intersections like those types of things create a theme and
a vibe withinside of the team. And now, yes, we
know we have Sam Donald still only twenty seven, but
he still got a lot of stars from his past
with the Jets in other and other teams in the NFL.
So he played his absolute worst game against a good

(26:43):
defense of the Jets, and we were still able to
win a lot like Kansas City has done. Two of
their five womens have been in the pugging fashion.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
So you complain to yourself, you compare yourself to Kansas City,
the two time Ready Defensive Bowl champions, of what we're doing. Now,
that's what we're doing.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
See Typan Wood said, I won the golf tournament with
my sea game. The Vikings went to London and they
won with their sea football game. Sam Donald's gonna have
to play better, But man, Kevin O'Connell had, dudes, why
they that he was missing and that defensive pressure and
the billing bill turn people over. That's gonna be a
constant this year. They got a top flight special team

(27:22):
kicker is good from fifty four, and they got a
good schedule. They got a home field advantage, and yes, man,
it's okay.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
I talked to the equipment guy.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
I told him a little large right now, you're a
little fitter he was last year. He saw you last
year and thought the face was fat bar to his
ex large. I was like, no, I saw the brother
in plectonol, dudes and slim the tightened up. We're gonna
get you some large Vikings gear. So by December when
it comes around, you won't look like you're just getting
on the bandwagon and everything. You'll be you already have
some Viking stuff ready.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
That's some bullshit you're talking around. That's some bullshit you're
talking right there, because the next thing you're gonna do
is you're gonna say to me, I want you to
get to Minnesota, but guess what, I won't be able
to wear the shit because too damned cold in Minnesota,
one of the coldest states in the country. I've been
in Minnesota before, Okay, I don't even understand how people stated.
I'm still wondering how lucky are y'all have Anthony Edwards,

(28:15):
because he should have wanted to leave that place, you know,
just because of the cold weatherlond You know, one of
my best friends ever, my man Boris Battle, works for
the Minnesota Timberwolves, right we were college teammates together at
Winston Salem State, has two beautiful children. Years ago he
had introduced me to them. My first words out of
his mouth was, how could you do this to them?
How could you have them living in Minnesota in this

(28:36):
cold ass weather?

Speaker 4 (28:38):
Hey, bron I went up there and had a great career.
Great things are happening up there, maybe Stephen A. Smith,
the worldly god Globe. Come on, man, you need to
be start thinking outside the box.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
Man. You can't be geographically all big city now now
you're just a big city.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
Oh only if you ain't in La. I know you're
in La right now, laying back.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
I know you got the crib down on Miname. I
know you'd like to tell yourself a New York and everything.
But listen, bro, there's a big.

Speaker 4 (29:02):
Part of the Midwest and Upper Midwest.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
They playing some good football up there. Don't miss out
on the twenty four football season because you've got this ideallancy.
All these teams got to be from Philly in your
Dallas is somewhere like that.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
We playing good ball up there. And CEC, I hope
the bike get me dm C C.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Where you been living for the last thirty five years.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
In Florida.

Speaker 4 (29:26):
But I made my breaking up.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
But yeah, yeah, in Florida. You understand that you in
and out of Minnesota inside of twenty four hours, and
you're gonna give me a damn lecture over here over
the digital airways. You know your ass don't stay there
more than twenty four hours. Tell you why you even
decided to stop it?

Speaker 4 (29:43):
You turning your camera towards the palm trees. Do you
I'm not lying.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Don't do it. Don't do it to me. Don't do
it to me. Love you, bro, Appreciate you, man. I'll
talk to you next week. Thanks a lot, man. So okay,
the one and only CC, the one and only Chris
Carter right here with Steven and Steven they special the
digital airwaves of YouTube and of course our heart radio.
You heard his respective about all things NFL had to
get it from him, no doubt about that, so I
could be finished with all of that. I've heard the

(30:09):
last word. I'm giving it to him. He's got the
last word on that topic. Coming up, the WNBA finals
are set between the New York Liberty and the Minnesota Links,
another Minnesota team. Good lord. I'll dive into who has
the edge coming up. But first, the presidential election is
now less than four weeks away. So how important is
the black vote this time around? Oh? I got something

(30:31):
to say about that, as well as my guest Roland
Martin in the house. Don't touch that doll. Let's Stephen
Nick Smith show coming your way back with more in
a minute. Okay, everybody, you know what Tom it is.
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I'll be making picks for Thursday night's NFL game. First up,
San Francisco caller Brock Purty more or less than two
hundred and fifty two and a half passing yards. I'm
going with more on this. I know that San Francisco's
been struggling, but they lost a couple of games in

(31:55):
a row. They're getting desperate. I think that Kyle Shanahan's
gonna come up with some tricks out of his sleep,
even get brought Purdy going, and I think he'll have
more than the two hundred and fifty two and a
half passing the yards. I'm gonna go with more on
this one. Please Seattle Seahawks quarterback Gino Smith more or
less than two hundred and fifty three and a half
passing yards himself. I'm definitely gonna go more with Gino Smith.
He's got DK metcalf and he's been putting up yardage.

(32:18):
They haven't been winning over the last couple of weeks.
They got to get their act together. Okay McDonald be
is the new coach and what have you. Some problems
with their defense and problem with some other stuff as well.
But in the end, Gino Smith can't fling that football
and can he put up more than two hundred and
fifty three yards? Yes, he can. Seahawks wide receiver DK Metcalf,
I just brought him up more or less than sixty
six and a half receiving yards. I think he's one
of the best receivers in football. I think he's an

(32:39):
absolute stud. By the way, I gotta give him up
the mad credit part of the reason my stomach went
Dan and some of the exercises I've employee. DK metcalf
personally gave me advice on that. Every time he sees me,
it brings it up, and he's right. I'm gonna give
him love for that because that brother's in shape, making
no mistake about it. I'm going with more because he's
a stud, and even though San Francis goes it could

(33:01):
show up DK metcalf Is DK Metcalf, I'm gonna say
more than sixty six and a half receiving yards. Finally,
forty nine is running back Jordan Mason. Who the hell
let's do more or less than eighty three and a
half receiving yards. Receiving yards out of the running back spot,
I'm not going for rushing yards. I'm sorry running yards
for Jordan Mason, I'm gonna I'm gonna go with less.

(33:24):
I don't think Seattle's gonna let him run the football
effectively to that degree. I could see him getting sixty
or seventy eighty three and a half. I'm gonna go
with less on this one. Okay. It's gonna be a
tough game as well. San Francisco and Seattle are both
going in the wrong direction, both trying to make amends,
make up for stuff, and do what they need to do.
So it's gonna be a real tough game. I don't
think it's gonna be good for the running game of

(33:46):
the San Francisco forty nine as though. Okay, so you
saw what I got. Okay, I got brock Purty with more,
got Gino Smith with Moore, I've got a DK Metcalf
with more, and I've got Mason with left. Those with less,
those are my picks. Flow with me because I've been
flowing when I've been doing prize pects. In case you've
missed it, Welcome back to Steven A. Smith Show right

(34:08):
here over the digital airways of YouTube and iHeartRadio. Let's
get to the politics and a presidential election which is
now less than four weeks away. There are several key
demographics that can swing the election in any direction for
Democratic nominee Vice President Kamala Harris or Republican nominee and
former President Donald Trump. One group that many aren't taking
into consideration as far as I'm concerned is black men.

(34:31):
And I say that based on a New York Times
column written very recently by Charles Coleman Junior. Take a
look at this excerpt from the column right here.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
Quote.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Black men today face a unique reality that warrants consideration
under nearly any relevant index for measuring the quality of
American life. How far we get in school, our finances
when compared to those of our white counterparts, and how
long we will live. Black men consistently rank lif last
or nail last. There is not a black man alive

(35:04):
in this country right now who has ever seen black
male unemployment equal to or less than that of his
white counterparts. This is true even more acutely for a
thirty four year old black man born in nineteen ninety,
who may have voted in every presidential election since his
eighteenth birthday, saw the election of a black president and

(35:25):
spent more more of his adult life with Democrats in
the OLISVI office than Republicans. How could we not be
asking ourselves come November? Which candidate can help us change course?
End quote again, that was written by Charles Coleman Junior.
He ain't better than my next guest. That article was
well written, given in props. But damnit, he ain't rolling on,

(35:48):
he ain't rolling mar in unfiltered. That's who I got
right here, right now? What's up, big boy? How you doing?

Speaker 4 (35:54):
Man?

Speaker 1 (35:54):
How's everything?

Speaker 5 (35:55):
I Charles a nice brother, but he does belong to
that youth.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Group call it Magasie five.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
That's right. Oh no, no, no, I take everythack every
word I said, I take it every word, I said,
brother Brontat, jump about you? What jump about?

Speaker 4 (36:10):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (36:10):
By the way, by the way, Roland, I saw you stepping.
I said, oh shock, damn, Roland was getting it on.
I had to give you props like that. I didn't know, Bro,
I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know. I
didn't know Bro not at all. Let me ask you this, man,
when you read this article in all now I got

(36:31):
you keep it going? Because you keeping it going, Bro,
you was moving pretty damn good way to go and
leading the pack. By the way, you were doing your
thing in front of an audience. It wasn't a private you.

Speaker 4 (36:40):
Were doing your thing.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
I got to give it to you. Let's get to this.
Let's get to this article. Roland. When I read you
what I just read, I know you read the whole article.
But when I read you what I just read, how
did you feel about what he had to what he
had to say in that column.

Speaker 5 (36:55):
So there are a number of things that Carl's wrote
that I've literally talked about on my show, and actually
I've been talking about for the last twelve years. So
Leville packed that in twenty twelve. First of all, I
sit you guys a graphic. So in two thousand and eight,
black men ninety five percent voted for Obama, five percent voted.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
For then Senator McCain.

Speaker 5 (37:23):
Then it jumps toa, Then it jumps to eleven in
twenty twelve. Why is that because you heard black men's
Black men were saying they felt that Obama did not deliver.
So there was a nine point gap between black men
and black women. So then when you go to twenty
and sixteen, then the number increases a lot of people

(37:45):
kept saying misogyny. They ain't support no woman in Hillary Clinton,
but they ignored. It was two men in two thousand
and twelve. Now you go to two thousand in six
twenty twenty, it was two men by Trump.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
And what then happens?

Speaker 5 (38:02):
Same thing. Okay, you see the number in creeks. Now
the Trump that you just show. It's important to understand
black men are still Black men are like all other men.
They're naturally more conservative. White men, Hispanic men, Asian men,

(38:22):
black men their issue. But we come to Democrats, black
women are their number one voting Black black men are
still their number two. So what are you now, like, so, like,
what's going on here? What's the difference what Trump does?
Trump presents this tough guy.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Manhood. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna do what I say.

Speaker 5 (38:49):
Uh, I say what I mean, And it's attractive as
attractive to a certain group of men. Now, when Charles
was talking about this, is saidtisfaction in terms of these
perceptions that you know, the Democratic Party is a party
of women. But first of all, perception is alive. Now

(39:10):
we say sometimes one perception because reality. Here's the reality
to our black men. Who's the highest ranking black man
in the Democratic Party. There's not the highest ranking African
American Democratic Party got vice president.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Of Comedge, but the Minardi leader.

Speaker 5 (39:25):
Is Jefferson, who was who was the person who actually
made the possible for Biden to win?

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Congsme, Jim Clyburn.

Speaker 5 (39:34):
Are there more black male members the three black members
of the United States Senate? The four three men, one woman, okay,
three Democrat, one Republican and Tim Scott in the House
more black men than black women.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
We can we can keep going on and on and on.

Speaker 5 (39:53):
Now, what brothers are reacting to, and I've heard this
for last decade. Bros are reacting to. All they hear
is black girl magic, black girlmagic, black black girl magic.
But what black men gotta understand is we've been the
ones getting all the attention for decades. We can take
into account the journalism, sexism, misogyny. So for instance, if

(40:18):
I asked, I guarantee you this steven A and not
just brothers with the high school diploma, go to college degree.
So I asked them, how does the Montgomery boycott start?
They gonna say, oh, that was doctor King and the preachers. No,
it wasn't it was Joanne Robinson, an Alabama state professor
and the women Women's Political Council.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
They're the ones who started the bus boycott.

Speaker 5 (40:43):
So we have to understand that men called Shirley Chisholm,
which she ran president at the Black Political Commission in Gary, Indiana.
The black men did not want to endorse her.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
It want to end her.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
So we gotta that level misogyny is not just about
black men. It's about men period, across the board, whether
it's white, black, and somatic or whatever. Misogyny, you know,
stereotypic stereotypes, those kinds of things. I got you men,
I got you.

Speaker 5 (41:11):
Men thinking a woman shouldn't do certain jobs or she
can't be a leader. But the reality is there are
female leaders all across the world. Mexico, female president, India.
Go to my ear was leading to we can go
on and on the okay, but what Charles laid out
with Charles laid out, it is true that what it's

(41:32):
the really it's a huge piece here with Democrats, and
I'm gonna say democratic white strategers don't understand is that
the further you get away from the black civil rights movement,
black people less self identify as democrats.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
You and I are gen X.

Speaker 5 (41:48):
I've been really paying to this since I graduated from
college in nineteen ninety one. You and I are in
different tax bracts than our parents. You and I and
other focus on things that our parents didn't focus on.
So what now begins to happen? You now begin to
look at stuff differently. If you never own the business,

(42:10):
you didn't care about a corporate tax rate, You now
own the business.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
You do, yes, you do.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
So it's a pocketbook issue.

Speaker 5 (42:18):
So what democrats have not done is they have not
crafted a strategy on how do you my poor target
black people. You're gonna talk to a college educated black
woman different from a non educated black woman. You're gonna
talk to a brother who in na chime America different
than urban America. They've always had sort of this one

(42:41):
size fits all. But so what you're not seeing the
data you're now seeing people go. You ain't talking to me,
so almost a look at others.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
H okay. And I'm saying to you now, that is
the way I can get on you because you dropping facts.
I'm not disputing it. But then you'll turn around and
you'll point out how folks on the right, Well, you
know what, they ain't worth the damn look at what
we're trying to do here on the left. But on
the on the left, you've got folks that that are strategists,

(43:12):
that are in the ears and in the head of
candidates that are manipulating the proceedings, and they ain't paying
attention to our community like you just highlighted.

Speaker 4 (43:23):
But here's the problem.

Speaker 5 (43:24):
The problem is the strategy look like me and you them,
I agree, right, So the problem is the strategists control
the money, control the messaging.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
They're not paying attention to the streets. They're not paying
attution to the ground.

Speaker 5 (43:40):
So when you listen to the ground, you now gotta
realize you now have to communicate with people differently. Now,
when I went through Charles's column, he was talking about
issues criminal justice reform, we're talking about health things on
those lines.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
Here are facts and it's just flat out of facts.

Speaker 5 (43:56):
When you look at the difference between Trump, Harris, Democrats,
and Republicans, Republicans wanted to end their Former Care Act.
The Former Care Act specifically has helped black folks get insurance,
which means help black men. So when black men say, well,
I need to hear something something specific. Well, when the
Vice president's worked on three and a half years the

(44:18):
issue of black infant mortality that impacts black men, had
a brother say no, adun't, I said, brother, when she's
talking about infant mortality, she ain't just talking about them
sister with the baby, because the sister is birthing black boys.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
I said that, Yeah, my brother, time I start right there.
I need you to start right there, because my point
is I ran in to Senator Chris Coon. I know
you know who that is, based out of Delaware. All right,
Chris Coon, based out of Delaware. He's done some HBCU
work with me, and I really really appreciate him for that. Right,
But he asked me about a question. I brought up
your name because obviously anytime somebody's talking to me about politics,

(44:57):
particularly on the left and what they're trying to do
and out there that should be listened to and heard,
I always point him in your direction. My brother, I
never had that. Don't come to me. Listen to that
brother right there. He know a lot more about that.
That is this I'm venturing into it. I ain't trying
to be no expert in this. Later, I want to
parts of it. But I will say this to you,
the messager matters as much as the message, and and

(45:20):
and if you're going to sit there and say, we've
got a vice president who is black, who is the
Democratic nominee for the president, who is a black woman,
who we have a minority you know, speak of the
House in Hakeem Jeffies, he's black. We saw, you know,
Clive Bird, he got Biden elected. If you're gonna bring

(45:41):
up all of these things, and how do these surrogates,
how do these folks that are really financing the campaigns?
And what have you get away with not paying attention
to the Black community when you know you need them
in order to win. Why are those folks in power
letting these folks get away with that? Are you trying
to win?

Speaker 2 (45:57):
Are you not right? And first, why you're absolutely right?
And messages do matter.

Speaker 5 (46:02):
I can tell you in twenty sixteen, on the night
of the Congression of Black Caucus Foundation ALC dinner, I
literally told Hillary Clinton to her face, listen, you're going
to lose this because your people are got their heads
stuck in their epads and I'm listening to the ground.
I told her, I've been trying to get your black
male surrogates on my show, and your people are not responding.

(46:25):
And she was, she said, she literally said to Humer
and Tomorrow and Marshall, if Rolla's not getting them, I
know others are not as well. And so you've got
to have the voices out there. I can tell you
black men were saying early in the bidenhairs administration, where
are you black? Where your black mal administrative folks? And
so you're right, you've got to be sending out trusted,

(46:46):
trusted messengers. But the Vice president has been doing is
she's see that as an opportunity. She's been speaking to
them when she she's been speaking to the various groups.
She's been having the conversations. But you gotta have more conversation.
But this is not where challenge comes in. Here's the
challenge now. Stephen A and I okay brought everything. Charles wrote, well,

(47:07):
I'm gonna tell you something. I'd tell you what when
the black women, when the black women met in twenty
twenty win with black women, they launched that to get
her the DP nomination.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
She got it. They kept meeting. They've been meeting every
Sunday for four years.

Speaker 5 (47:23):
You know how many times brothers were like, yo, man,
we gotta meet, and I said, we'll organize it.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
It never happened.

Speaker 5 (47:30):
You know why because typically when stuff got organized in
the black community.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
Sisters are the one that did it.

Speaker 5 (47:37):
So when we did so, when we did the win
with the Black Men Call, phenomenal, fifty five thousand folks
were on the call the day after the sisters did.
But guess what, it's a whole bunch of these brothers
ain't been on the call since then. So here's what
I'm saying to Charles and to every black man out there.
I can't wait for the Democratic Party to speak to

(48:01):
black men. I need black men mobilizing and organizing, speaking
to black men about our issues. So I have been
this goes back more than a decade. I have directly
challenged my frat Alpha Phi Alpha. I've challenged all the
all the fraternities in Divine nine.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
But also I.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
Challenge the Prince Hall Mason's I challenge black men's groups. See,
we can sit here.

Speaker 4 (48:27):
And say, hey, you know what party ain't doing.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
This year, But this ain't about party.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
This is about us.

Speaker 4 (48:34):
It's about us.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
Yeah, but they never listening. Roland then you you know
that come on Roland, they don't listen. If there's one thing,
and you know this better than most because you are
black men that speaking. You can't stand where people ain't
listening because you know they should be listening to you,
and it drives you crazy. Okay. You know historically black folks,
black men lament their voices being heard and oh, by

(48:58):
the way, little kept secret were gonna put it out
there on Front Street. A lot of times we don't
feel the women are listening to us, and so nigga,
that plays a role too, and that's not fair. That's
not always fair because a lot of times they are listening,
we just ain't making no damn sense sometimes. So I
get that part. Go ahead, I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (49:18):
First.

Speaker 5 (49:19):
First of all, black women been swinging for us for
a long time, even when we were silent.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Oh no doubt.

Speaker 4 (49:24):
So here's what.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
So here's what.

Speaker 5 (49:27):
And when we start talking about policies, when I when
I cook, when these brothers I run. I'm in Philadelphia
right now, during the show tonight, I'm at Linking University
of Tomorrow. When brothers come up to me and they say, man,
I ain't doing nothing, I then go what do you mean?
So when Charles was talking about criminal justice reform, he
was like, well, they didn't get they didn't get the
George plot, just as at they didn't Biden Hair signed

(49:49):
executive order. This Civil Rights Division has investigated twelve police departments,
one under Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
So things are actually happening. What has to happen is.

Speaker 5 (50:00):
Have to make sure that we are also organized to
challenge power to actually get things done. So what should
be happening right now is with less than thirty days,
brothers should be asking themselves. Okay, everything Charles laid out
is great. Here's a question. I'm a black man. What

(50:21):
are the five things I care about? And where does
Harris line up? And where does Trump line up? And
if I got more check marks by Harris's name, I
ain't even thinking about Donald Trump. Cause see, let's be
real clear. I'm gonna put this out you and I.
It don't actually matter who wins. They don't actually have

(50:43):
a material impact on us because of frankly, where we
are financial Well, let me say it is here to
a brother out there who is asking the questions about unemployment,
getting the capital for business, things along those lines, you
better be asking yourself who cares about your health, who
cares about your education, who cares about civil rights, who

(51:04):
cares about the environment. You got a hurricane bearing down,
another one across the country. If you a brother who's
providing benefits to you to be able to escape that
when you can take care of your family, Well, we're
gonna stop saying what folk not doing and step back
and say, well, let me find out people are doing
and then how that's impacted my life.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
Yes, I can feel you on that rolling, but here's
my deal. Like, for example, that message being sent by
you is admirable. I'm glad I'm giving you my airways.
You got your own, you know, but I'm glad I'm
giving you my airways to say, you know what you're
saying because you deserve it. The flip side to this
is this, though, Kamala Harris should be saying that more effectively.

(51:48):
And oh, by the way, I appreciate her on the View,
I appreciate her on Stephen Colbert, I appreciate her in
those platforms. The ain't rolling, Martin. Now, let me give
you and I know how I know how liberal leaning
you are, but I also know that even when liberals
sit in front of you. Oh, they better bring this stuff.
It's gonna be a problem. You ain't gonna let them

(52:10):
off the hook.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Actually, I'll say this, I'm black leaning.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
You got fine, fine, right, but I'm.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
Going it now.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
I'm going that. I'm going that that's accurate, that's accurate.
I'm just saying, where the hell I ain't see did
she sit down with you yet? Did she sit down
with you yet?

Speaker 2 (52:29):
Up, that's actually that's actually happening.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
Okay, all right, So okay, okay, but to your.

Speaker 5 (52:37):
Point, but to your point, trust me, and I've been
saying this for years as well. You're absolutely right. You
have to all show because so for instance, uh what
about three weeks ago she was on Ricky Smiley Show.
Uh yeah, yeah they did, they did all the smoke.
But that's also part of the deal. Part of the
deal is with these campaigns, I'm talking about strategs now

(52:59):
and they don't look like us. This is also getting
to understand you better have a better respect for black
on media and for black voices and also how you're communicating. Again,
where the campaigns have made a mistake is they don't
understand the old model of hitting the black churches going

(53:22):
into NAACP. That's gone. We're now living in a world.
It's a digital world, a technology world. They're getting information
from different voices, from podcasts, from digital shows.

Speaker 4 (53:36):
Listen, I pulled the data the other day.

Speaker 5 (53:38):
I pulled that. I said, somebody I did. I've done
your show three times. If you add up all the views,
that almost hits a million. Guess what, it's some shows
on CNN not even getting four hundred thousand people. So
that's why those shows are mad, because people are going
to other places. What I and look, sixty five percent
of my YouTube audiences are black men. What needs to

(54:00):
be happening here? The messaging absolutely has to change. They
gotta be driving out more surrogeance. But what you are
seeing is you are seeing her talk about the opportunity.
But what also has to happen when we start talking
about facts. When brother tell me, man Trump with with
with the stimulus checks, I go, do you realize that

(54:20):
Biden has gave you a bigger check in twenty twenty one?

Speaker 1 (54:23):
Right, Trump gave us money? Then Trump Trump gave us
Trump gave us money for HBCUs. Do you realize that
Biden has given you a lot more for HBCUs. You
realize that you try to really mess you up.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
The budget that Trump submitted cut HBCU funding.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 5 (54:42):
I didn't know budget that doctor Walter Kimbro, who's been
a ABCU president for different schools, has broken down. He
submitted budgets that actually cut HBCU funding. It was restored
by cognists, but he's been commissioned a lot. But again
folk failed for of the lie of oh no, I
guaranteed them funding.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
Not true.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
So all these I saw your show. I saw your
show when you did that. I saw that guest on
your show when you had to check them. I remember
I watched that. There you go.

Speaker 5 (55:12):
So all these people who were talking about what they
have it done, like again brug the Trump Department of
Justice said we're gonna pull back on cossit decreeds because
they hurt police morale. The Trump Jeff Sessions, Bill Barr.
They investigated one police department, Biden Harris DJ They've investigated well,

(55:40):
but they literally put cops in prison. So if you're
saying who's been better on criminal justice reform, who's been
holding cops accountable? It ain't even close. The problem is
and I've criticized the White House. I said, y'all gonna
have I've hit Coreine Jehan Pierre saying, when are you
gonna talk about different podium every time they do it,

(56:03):
I do it on my show. But the White House
has not been aggressive at killing their own story with
what Charles is talking about.

Speaker 4 (56:09):
And that's real.

Speaker 5 (56:11):
And if I interviewed the Vice president, were gonna talk
about it. Now, if we're not in vice President, we're
gonna discuss that.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
My last question, I'm gonna throw this about it because
this is, this is, this is a deep proportion, this
is this is this is my thinking. And I'm not
saying it's different than yours. It's just that being in
corporate America, having the maneuver through the terrain that we
both have had the maneuver through for decades, knowing the
challenges that we face. One of the things that I'm
popular for saying this flat of me. You know, I

(56:39):
want to buy a house, I ain't buying it without
you showing it to me. I gotta look in it.
I want to buy a car. I want to see
I want to chess drive that bad boy. I gotta
see it, you know. And then I think about civil
rights nineteen sixty four. I think about voting rights nineteen
sixty five. I think about Lyndon B. Johnson talking about,
we'll have the Negroes vote for us for the next
two hundred years if we if we pulled this off.
He was the president, but both Republicans and Democrats supposedly

(57:03):
brought it to his desk to be signed, and the
Democrats got all the credit for it. And ever since
that time, to me, we have said to the Republican Party,
we want nothing to do with y'all. And the Democratic
Party has known this. So on one side, you got
a party that knows they ain't gonna get our support,
as your chart showed, so therefore they ain't gonna do

(57:24):
but so much. And on a left, they know they
got our support. So how much do they have to
do for us beyond lip service, which to me epitomizes
the struggle involving disenfranchisement to some degree. When we're talking
about our community, it is fair for me to ask you,
as my brother and my boy and who I respect,

(57:44):
how right I am or how wrong I am in
feeling that way what I just articulated. I'll give you
the last word, and I'll lean on what you say.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
You're partly right, which you gotta go back way further.

Speaker 5 (58:00):
Black people, black people coming out of slavery, people of
African descent formerly in slave pop ever descent, aligned with
Republicans because there was a group called the Radical Republicans.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
It was the Radical.

Speaker 5 (58:14):
Republicans that pushed forward to thirteen fourteen Fifteenth Amendment, and
they were posed to slavery. Then you had about an
eight to ten year period of reconstruction. Black people were
running for office. We were the they majority of a
South Carolina legislature, on and on and on. Then there
was an election in eighteen seventy six, contested election.

Speaker 4 (58:34):
They cut a deal which is called.

Speaker 5 (58:36):
The Great Confines of eighteen seventy seven, where they pulled
the federal troops out of the last three Southern states.
What then happened then the racist Southern Democrats took over
and read all the black people out. What then happened
was the Radical Republicans they stopped protecting black people. Black
folks were anger. So then when you go through the
you go through the black people. Half of black people.

(58:58):
And Bruce Bartlett, longtime Republican, go to his Twitter feet
he literally tweeted a bunch of this stuff earlier today
that you go through the early twentieth century, more than
fifty percent of black people were still voting Republicans. Then
the Republicans start aligning with Southern Democrats. It was called
the lily White movement. Y'all look up lily White movement.

(59:18):
Herbert Hoover was a leader of a lily white movement.
Then all of a sudden, you start going forward. Then
what then happened, Well, a lot of these Republicans joined
with Southern Democrats. They opposed FDR. But when it came
to benefits for black people, guess what for losing black support?
Night go to nineteen sixty Kennedy Nixon. Nixon was not

(59:41):
aggressive and going after the black vote. That angered Jackie Robinson.
Jackie Robinson talked about it in his book. And then
you go to sixty four. Nineteen sixty four, it was
Barry Goldwater Center, Barry Goldwater who opposed the sixty four
Civil Rights Act. That's when the break happen. That's when
black folks said, oh the hell with this here, We're

(01:00:04):
done with y'all. And that's when it flipped. Then you
go to sixty eight they began to and a lot
of the Republicans were supported of civil rights. And then
get go look at the very goldwater book, The Conscious
of a Conservative, and it's that book where the shift
began to happen. Then ye have the Southern strategy. They
began conservative Democrats, the conservative Republicans, and people about to

(01:00:27):
be blown away.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
A lot of those.

Speaker 5 (01:00:28):
Republicans supported the sixty four Civil Rights Act, sixty five
Voting Rights Act, but they fill a buster the sixty
eight Civil Rights Act. It was centered it would brook
black Man, my alfor brother who broke to the bus
in the Senate. But check this out and continued in
the House. Because the Republicans were like, well, we don't
want them living with us as well, they all joined
with the Democrats.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
King gets assassinated Eightril four, sixty eight.

Speaker 5 (01:00:49):
They'l be Jason's a letter on April fifth, sixty eight
saying this past his builder on his legacy is signed
to law nine days later. But ever since then, the
Republicans begin the dues, the Southern stri They begin to
align with those Southern Democrats, those Dixocrats, and begin to
drive on an issue of rates. And ever since then
now here. So Republicans, you look. One of the first

(01:01:12):
bills I wanted to blow your way. One of the
first bills Republicans took up after Trump won became in
twenty seventeen, they got rid of an Obama era law
to end discrimination in auto house in auto.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
Loans, one of the first bills.

Speaker 5 (01:01:28):
So what Republicans have not done is Republicans have made
a decision if we support a lot of this stuff
black people care about, that's going to antagonize our white baits.
Seventy percent of all voters stephen A in America are
still white. So what you're seeing right now, the teamsters
and all these union think about it. Bid Harris is

(01:01:48):
the most pro union administration in more than fifty years.
Why are some of these union workers still supporting Trump
because they're picking whiteness and cold culture over their own pocketbook.
We got to understand in my book, White Fear breaks
it down. It's all there. Republicans are not going to

(01:02:08):
support a lot of the issues that we care about
because it does not align with their white base. That
is a fact, and that's what you're seeing in the
racial politic. And last point, real quick, but they keep
saying the working class.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Working class quick, no, no, real quick, the black working.

Speaker 5 (01:02:25):
Classes with Harris, the penut working class with Harris, white
working class. That's who's not with Harris. But they always
leave off the white part and don't want to talk
about that. You've gotta confront whiteness as an identity in
America to understand the American politics.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
Even in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
One of the things I'm determined to do is to
have a white conservative on this show to debate against you.
I would love to see that. That would be mussy television,
my brother. I got to get on. I know you
ain't running, I know you coming. Listen, man, I appreciate
I appreciate you as always. You deserve the last word
or that. I really appreciate that education in that perspective,
my man. Thank you so much. Roland Martin, unfiltered, rolland unfiltered,

(01:03:10):
get regular, will always get registered vote, go to the
Dan Poles. Absolutely appreciate you, my brother. We'll talk soon.
Thanks a lot saying it. Coming up, the w NBA
finals are set. I'll break down the match between the
Minnesota Links and the New York Liberty. Plus I got
a little something to say about j Lowe Jennifer Lopez
before the show ends. Stick around back for more to

(01:03:31):
stephen A. Smith Show in a minute. Let me just
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pick less. It's really that easy. Welcome back to stephen A.
Smithsher right here over the digital areas of YouTube, and
of course I heard radio. We'll start with the WNBA
with the Minnesota Lynx punch their ticket to the finals
last night, beating the Connecticut Sun eighty eight to seventy seven.
The Links will take on the New York Liberty and
the aforementioned Finals Thursday night on the s quick point.

(01:05:03):
Lafisia Collie is no joke. She's something special, and you
the New York Liberty. You gonna have to deal with
that girl, Make no mistake. You're gonna deal with that
young lady, no doubt about it. But it shouldn't be
a problem. At some point in time. You're the New
York Liberty, New York, Stay due, New York, Stay due,
New York, Stay dupe. You're gonna win. This is your

(01:05:26):
sixth NBA Finals. You're zero to five in the finals.
You gotta win one of these. You gotta win one
of these. Okay, you gotta be Hones Stewart. You got
your next school. You were in the finals last year.
Handing your business. It's time for the New York Liberty
to close the deal. I don't give a damn who
to Minnesota links have. I don't care how good they've

(01:05:49):
been all year long. The Liberty has been right there.
And if you could take out Asia Wilson and Plumb
and Gray and the crew, you should be able to
take out Minnesota. That's all I got to say. Hell
with Hope. I have expectations. We need a basketball championship
in New York. We ain't gonna get it from Saint

(01:06:11):
John's Redstone. We ain't gonna get it from the Brooklyn
Nets we have, we haven't gotten it from the New
York Knick since nineteen seventy three. This is our change, Liberty,
Handle your business, Ladies, handle your business now. Before I
get on out of here for to day. I felt

(01:06:32):
compelled to bring up this story. This story I got
little hiccups going on right now. Courtesy of the Hollywood Reporter.
It's entitled Jennifer Lopez gets candid on divorce scrapped tour
and online backlash. Quote. If I see something that's hurtful,

(01:06:54):
I'm not teflon. And then when she's asked to speak
about some things and she's talking about how things unfolded,
and you know, everybody, you know, everybody knows that she
separated from Ben Affleck. Everybody knows what that situation. I mean,
we saw it all in the news. Stuff like that.
Before I say anything else, before I read some of

(01:07:16):
these quotes. I've had the pleasure of meeting Jennifer Lopez
on a couple of occasions. Jennifer Lopez is a wonderful woman, hardworking,
very talented, very beautiful. Obviously, I met her when she
was dating a Rod. I don't blame her for commenting

(01:07:36):
on certain things, and I don't blame her for feeling
compelled to speak because she you know, the paparazzis and
stuff like that. You think people like me have it bad,
ain't nothing compared to her. I mean, it's ridiculous. I'm

(01:07:57):
telling y'all right now, I ain't seen shit like it.
I mean, maybe Michael Jackson, Prince and a few other stars,
But the way they get followed, the way they get mobbed,
it's ridiculous, so us speaking of herself, I don't blame her,
but the one thing that I do want to say,
she's talking about the breakup, and she's being interviewed by
that hilarious stand up comedian Nicki Glazer. You saw her

(01:08:20):
with the Tom Brady Rose. She's off the chain. But
Jennifer Lopez said to her this quote, it was like
my whole fucking world exploded, she said. In recapping the year,
the separation and all of this stuff from Ben Affleck,
she said, moments, ladies continue. I think what I love
about life that there's no arrival point. There's only getting
better and growing if you want to. It's either growing

(01:08:42):
or dying, and I don't want to do the dying part.
And year there's times when I thought I figured it out,
and then life goes. Let's send you another thing and
see if you fall forward. Let's see if you really
have learned that lesson and I hadn't. I understand that
now in a much deeper way, which doesn't mean that
I won't make mistakes in the future. But again, when
your whole house blows up, you're standing there in the rubble, going,

(01:09:04):
how do I not ever let that happen again. Ladies, gentlemen,
you know what I took the liberty of doing. Before
I get out of here, I want to say this.
I actually googled marriage vows because you see Jennifer Lopez.
And it's not a criticism, it's just a suggestion because
I truly do believe you're wonderful and I'm a fan,

(01:09:25):
and you've always been wonderful to me and I will
never ever disrespect you. But you've been married four times
four so I feel compelled or felt compelled to read
look up marriage valus See, I ain't never been married,

(01:09:47):
and I'm gonna take that plunge someday. I'm gonna take
that plung someday. I'm scared as hell because trust me,
it is a plunge. That's how I feel about it.
I'm on a plank, all right. But let me say this.
Reading marriage vows, I such and such take you such

(01:10:08):
and such to be my lawfully wedded husband or wife.
I promise to be true to you in good times
and in bad, in sickness and in health. I will
love you and honor you all the days of my
life to having to hold from this day forward until death,

(01:10:35):
do us part. That's what you're saying to one person.
Where the hell are O the three supposed to come from?
That's the issue. Don't get married. Don't get married no
more until you know ain't nowhere at hell there's a slight,

(01:11:00):
lightest sliver of a chance to you getting a divorce.
I'd even tell you, give you incentive, and I'll end
the show on this note. My boy Cardell Cardle Brooks,
I'm doming them out on national airwaves or the international
airways of YouTube. I'm doming them out. He's been on
this show before, came on line from Vegas last year
before the Aerospence Junior Terrence Crafford fight. Do you know

(01:11:23):
what my boy, who I love daily, but damnit, he's
a flaming idiot sometimes. Are y'all ready for this? Griff Sherry,
Michael Rashawan, all your married ass folks out there. Let
me not forget pot belly Galen. Do y'all know what
Rashaan said, not Rashawn, what my man Cardell said. I
want y'all to keep in mind, the dude's broke. He

(01:11:45):
ain't got that much money, all right. I mean, he
got a good job, but he ain't making. He ain't
making it, ain't making book dollars. Right, you know what
he said, I already got to preen up her dreaming agreement,
draw drawing up it's true story. Who else leaves gets nothing,
that's the pre nup agreement, no matter what. Here was

(01:12:11):
his explanation. We said we loved one another. We said
we would cherish one another. We would be there for
each other forever and ever. You understand, we went up
on an altar in a church before God and said,
forever until death do us part. Where the hell are

(01:12:32):
you think you're going? That's why he did. That's why
all my boys, when he turned around, he couldn't find
us because we was on the floor. We was laughing.
That damn heart. He said. His prenup agreement is one sentence.
Whoever leaves gets nothing. That's how he felt. Ladies, gentlemen,
we were in our twenties. He's in his fifties and

(01:12:55):
he still feels that way. The brother ain't all there,
but I love him. And the funny thing is, if
j Low had followed that mandate, might not be any problems.
Whoever leaves gets nothing. I'm just speculating, not that ben

(01:13:17):
Affleck needs anything from her, she needs anything from him.
You can't have those vals and go back forth your
head force and all of that stuff is legal, but
that's why people are talking. So just be with somebody
and don't get married. You are gorgeous, you are smart,

(01:13:38):
you are incredibly gifted, you are incredibly accomplished, and like
you said in that Hollywood Reporter article, you don't need much.
You ain't looking for nobody, So stay single. It ain't
like the brother gonna leave you because you didn't marry him.
Who's leaving you if they don't have to worry about
the paper as an amerriageificate, just a suggestion. That's it

(01:14:04):
for this edition. To the Stephen A. Smiths, Shall want
to take a moment to give a happy birthday shout
out to my man Griff as in Thomas Griffin, one
of my producers here, does a great job, gets all
my last damn nerves every day. But it doesn't mean
he doesn't do a good job, and it doesn't mean
he doesn't deserve a happy birthday. Wish happy birthday to
my man Griff. All the best to you, your two
beautiful kids and your wife. Moving forward, my brother just

(01:14:26):
stop getting on your boss's damn nerves and everything gonna
be all right. Y'all take care. This is stephen a
signing off until next time.

Speaker 4 (01:14:32):
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