Full Show: Scottie Pippen states he's the GOAT. Rappers explain Trump event performances. TikTok is not banned.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You would think that on a day we celebrate the
memory and the contributions to our society made by the
late great doctor Martin Luther King Junior, that it would
be a day of peace and tranquility. Yet as things change,
they remain the same. There's an inauguration that took place

(00:21):
on Capitol Hill this afternoon. People ain't happy about that.
There's stuff that's transpiring already at the border. People ain't
happy about that. I even got rap orders being excoriated
throughout the United States of America because of their supposed
political positions or a political positions.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
We're getting noise about that. Help Even Scottie.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Pippen's open in his mouth and engaging and blasphemy, and
not just about Michael Jordan.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
It's supposed to be a day of peace.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
But it's America. Ladies and gentlemen. Do we even know
what the damn meaning of the word is? These days?
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(01:20):
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will get into a whole bunch of things today.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
TikTok has made news.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
It went dark for a little while and then it
came back up, and a representative out of California has
fought for that to happen. We'll see what obstacles lie
in wait for TikTok and why that may be the case.
We'll touch on that a little bit later on in
the show. Of course, I'm gonna get into Scottie Pippen,
who appeared on a PbD podcast, Patrick Bett David, who's

(02:27):
become a friend of mine. He's a wonderful, wonderful man
to know, incredibly knowledgeable and successful. He interviewed Scottie Pippen
on his podcast, the PbD Podcast. Those are some elite
brothers over there. I've gotten to know them, got a
lot of love and respect for them. It's a great
interview that PbD did with the one and only Scotty Pippen.
It wasn't great what the hell came out of Scotty

(02:49):
Pipper's valve, but it was great.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
It was a great interview.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
I'll get into all of that a little bit later
on in the show too. And I'm about to get
into the inauguration, but before the inauguration of Donald Trump
as the forty seventh President of the United States, to
be specific for those of you who didn't know and
are living under a rock or just flat out ignorant. Nevertheless,
that's gonna have to wait. That's gonna have to wait.

(03:14):
And also what's gonna have to wait is me getting
into Jaden Daniels, the rookie quarterback for the Washington Commanders.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Who might win the Super Bowl? Who might win the
Super Bowl as a rookie.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
I'll touch on that a little bit later on in
the show as well. I ain't going anywhere.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
I gotta start off the show with my boys, Snoop
dog and Nelly.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Now, obviously, if you don't know any better, you've been
living under a rock or what have you, youre might
be a bit put off because these brothers are taking
an awful.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Lot of heat. And that's why I have to start there.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Remember, Donald Trump was sworn in this president of the
United States for the second time today. He entered office
with plenty of controversies around them and many Americans wondering
what to expect this time around. And I told you
I'm going to get into that. But part of that
is starting off with Snoop Dogg and Nelly and Soldier
Boy and others for their decisions to perform at events

(04:14):
surrounding the inauguration. Nelly was on with Willie d you know,
formular the Ghetto Boys this week, and he was talking
about some things because he was taking a lot of
heat for performing at events surrounding the inauguration. Before I
get into it, let's hear Nellie's explanation. Listen to this.
Performing for somebody and voting for somebody is two different things.

(04:38):
Endorsing people is two different things. Am I Trump supporter?
I support the office. I support the President of the
United States, regardless of who's in office.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
I'm not a politician. Man.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
You didn't see me out there on a campaign. You
didn't see me out there saying you should vote for
this candidate. But I'm honored to be out there performing
for the office for the President of the United States.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
That was his position. Because obviously he's taken some heat.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
You've got people all over social media and beyond calling
them sellouts and coons and traders to their race and
all of this other stuff that's been coming out of
their mouth. And Snoop Dogg is especially taking some hits,
not just because he elected to perform at the Crypto Ball,
which was the event one of the events surrounding the inauguration,
an event Trump what did not even attend, by the way,

(05:26):
even though he was supposed to be the guest of honor.
But not only a Snoop dog taking heat for that
Snoop Dog's taking heat for what we saw him say
about any potential performers at the inauguration of Donald Trump back.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
In twenty and seventeen.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
So to be fair, let me make sure before I
let you know what my position in all of this is.
Let's see Snoop Dogg from back there in twenty seventeen
and what he had to say about any potential performer
performing at Donald Trump's inauguration back then.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Listen to this, Snoop DOGG.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
So, ain't nobody gonna perform for Donald Trump?

Speaker 4 (05:59):
Huh?

Speaker 5 (06:00):
Which one of you jiggaboo ass gonna be the first
one to do it?

Speaker 3 (06:05):
I'm waiting.

Speaker 5 (06:06):
I'm gonna roaster one of you. Uncle Tom asked me
for doing Which one of you is gonna do it first?

Speaker 3 (06:14):
The one that performs for himself?

Speaker 2 (06:17):
That was Snoop dog.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
So obviously, to see him performing this past weekend at
the Crypto Ball, knowing what was being put out there
about him, had to call my boy because that is
my dog, making no mistake about it. I ain't apologizing
for that to nobody. That's my brother. I love that brother, Okay,
even when he wrong you right, or even when he

(06:39):
wrong you right with me, because I know where his
soul lies. Having said all of that, I still have
to be fair to our audience. And I reached out
to Snoop and I'm gonna tell you exactly what the
brother said to me. He wasn't there for Trump. He
was there for David Zachs, who's gonna be running.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Crypto and AI.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
He's gonna be that crypto in AIS are for the
president administration.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
That's who David sax is.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
David sax Is somebody that Snoop has had a relationship
with for decades.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
David sass that cat.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
When nobody else put their hand out offering dollars to
Snoop's football league, and beyond that, brother does it. That
brother's ready to do it now. So we got to
take all of that into consideration. Nelly threw out the
money as well. He ain't trying to be political.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
He's an artist. He was paid to perform, and.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
That's exactly what he did. Don't get me started with
what soldier boys said. He said the same exact thing.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Now he said.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
It in a very abrasive and excessive fashion, and I
thought that was unnecessary.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
But if that's his lingo that's his lingo.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
The point is the point he sat up there and
pulled out a bag of money and said, did anybody
offer me to perform? That's what they did. So we
see all of that going on and we understand what
that is. But back to Snoop Dogg because that's who
I know. Back to Nelly, because that's who I know.
Nelly is not a political person. Nelly doesn't get involved

(08:09):
in the campaigns. Nelly does perform for people who will
pay the right fee, et cetera, et cetera, as an artist,
and he is somebody that don't want to get involved
in all of that and believes in respecting the office
because of the power that comes with it.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
That's his position.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Like it or not, you gotta respect it because there's
plenty of hypocritical asses out here in this world acting
like they don't.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Do it, and they do it every day. But you're
gonna come at.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Him because he went and sang a few songs at
the incoming president.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
See that's the BS right there, and.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
That's what that's the kind of stuff that's gotta stop.
Back to Snoop, who I know, Not that I don't
know Nelly, but I know Nell.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
That's my brother. I love him death, but not We
ain't as close as me as Snoop. Did y'all know
that Snoop never exercised his right to vote in his life.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Until twenty twenty? Did you know that I'm telling you
what Snoop told me. I have permission from him to
say this to y'all. If he didn't want me to
tell y'all, listen, I wouldn't be telling y'all none of
this because I ain't violate nobody's trust.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
I can have my opinions without violating trust.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
But he's given me permission to say everything that I'm
saying to you.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
He never voted in his life until twenty twenty. I
never knew that. Had I known that, I'd gotten his ass,
I'm his brother.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
I believe in exercise and your right to vote, your
ancestors and the sacrifices they made, damn it. One power
to you have is to make sure you vote. People
died for you to have the right to vote. Got Snoop?

Speaker 2 (09:48):
I love it. I love him to death. I'd have
gotten his ass. You gotta vote. He voted in twenty twenty.
He voted for Joe Biden.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Spoke against Trump in twenty sixteen, spoke against him in
twenty seventeen, voted against him in twenty twenty. So everybody
want to be like, well, what's the problem now, what's
the problem. I'll tell you what the problem is now.
But before I get into the problem, let me show
y'all a full screen of mister Keith Boykin. This guy

(10:22):
is a political commentator.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
I assume I don't know his background.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
I'm not casting any dispersions on him, disrespecting him in
any way.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
I've just been busy and I didn't have time to
get into it. I saw him on CNN giving political
commentary on Abbey Phillips Show, and while he was on there,
he said this.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
I want you all to see this stuff on the
full screen.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Cause you need to know any black person who performs
at Trump's inauguration dishonors, quote black families he refused to
rent to the two in the nineteen seventies, the black
kids he wanted to execute in the Central Park case
in the nineteen eighties, the black Haitian immigrants he lied
about in the twenty twenty four election.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
You remember when.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Trump was said, they're eating dogs they're eating cats. Remember
that that's what Keith Boykin is talking about, along with
various other things. Along with various other things, let me
explain to you why I'm pissed. I'm not talking about

(11:27):
Keith Boykin. Mad respect to you. Keep doing what you're doing.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
I hope your career continues to elevate my brother.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
I'm not speaking against him, only his position, And the
reason that I preface my comments by saying that is
because I'm gonna show a level of respect to him
that most.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
People don't show to me.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
You don't like my opinion, so you attack me, you
personalize it with your petty bs. You can disagree without
being disagreeable. So I'm not talking about Keith Boykin.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
I don't know him.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
I'm talking about his point. Here's what pisses me off
about that.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
You don't have any respect.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
For anybody who performs at Trump's inauguration or the events
surrounding is inauguration. So that means does that mean you
don't have any respect for anybody black who voted for him.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
I'm not talking about myself because I didn't vote for him.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Does that mean you don't have any respect for black
people who sat there and said, I'm interested in the economy.
I'm interested in inflation. I'm interested in protecting our borders.
I'm interested in elevating our national security. I'm interested in
keeping the streets of the United States of America.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Is safe as possible.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
What if their reasons and they're rationale for voting strictly
protect to that.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
What if this person.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Voted for him because they broke and they think he's
gonna put more money in their pocket. What if this
person voted for him because they're in a crime riating
neighborhood and they feel leftists aren't having the streets.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Patrolled well enough. What if they want to call.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Nine to one one, but they live in an environment
that people were supporting the funding the police, and as
a result of that, you either have a paucity of
police officers or you have police officers that ain't that
interested in protecting a serving because they don't want to
get villified.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
What if the job market mattered.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
There's a whole bunch of reasons why people vote the
way that they vote. To sit up there and just
blinkedly state that you don't respect anybody that showed up
to an inauguration soldier boy, ain't got no right to
go make some money.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
They are different.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Everybody couldn't say, Man, if it was me, it's a
different way to make the money.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Sure about that? Sure about that? I sold soldier boy
pull out some cash. I couldn't see that well, I
couldn't count, but it looked like at least six figures
what it took most people, and what it takes most
people to make it a year. The brother made in
one night.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
You sure you sure about that? You sure you could
have found a way to go and make the kind
of cash that he making. Snoop dogg worth over one
hundred million dollars. He got a youth football league. This
brother sending cast to college. He sending cast to the NFL.
We just gonna ignore that because he performed at the inauguration.

(14:52):
Let me tell you something right now, some of you
in our community, I just say your community, I said ours.
I'm a black man who's entitled the field. Whatever the
hell I want to feel some of y'all when you
turned against ice Cube, it's unforgivable.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
It's unforgivable. Ice Cube n w a.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Ice cube dre easy all of them. And then Snoop
came a board, not in wa but Snoop came aboard,
Warrant G and the whole crew.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
They took the rep game to another level.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
You know what I mean, Black people made money off
of hip hop? I mean black people have been employed
because of hip hop. It transformed this world.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Is everything perfect about them? Hell no?

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Is the way some of them carrying themselves right, No,
the way some of them speak.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Hell no, I get all of that.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
But damn, before they came along, you had white folks
in the music industry.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Worshiping the devil.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
And singing whatever the hell they wanted to sing. Nobody
said anything but the Brothers come along, it's a problem.
And now that the Brothers come along and they make
something to themselves, and they got opportunities that they're willing
to exploit, and they choose to be a political You
want to get an ass?

Speaker 2 (16:32):
What if they got in your ass? Keith Boykin?

Speaker 1 (16:37):
What if they got And by you, I'm not talking
about you specifically, bro Again, I respect you. Of what
I know of you, I don't know much, but I
like listening to you on television.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
I respect you. I truly do.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
What I mean by you is I'm talking about lefties. See,
I'm a registered in dependent y'all trying to roll out
there talk about and I'm gonna have on my lower
third grip make that lower third for me. Put even
a smith still a registered independent. I ain't changing, thank you, Griff.
I ain't changing. I ain't no damn Republican. I ain't

(17:08):
no conservative, nor am I a Democrat. I'm an independent.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Why because I don't like none of your asses. I
don't trust you as far as I could throw you.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Conservatism, fiscally, taxes, border security, crime, that's me.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Liberal.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Any liberal policy that you got in terms of support
of the LGBTQ community, I'm good with it.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Abortion rights, I'm good with it.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
I'm not a Roe v Wade advocate, meaning I'm more
pro choice than pro life. Not that I believe in abortion,
because I don't. I just don't believe it. And he
man should be telling what a woman what to do
with their body. But I certainly understand if people during
the election were not concerned about those issues, and people

(18:15):
like the Keith Boykins of the world never brought that up.
And I'm saying, yo, bro, nobody's saying you wrong about
what you're feeling. As it pertains to those issues, but
you do understand there's a lot of people that didn't
care about the issues you.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Might care about. They might have other priorities.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
And the Soldier Boy's case, it was making money, and
in Nellie's case, it was being an artist, and in
Snoop's case, it was about supporting his Snoop Youth League.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
And all the things he has done and plans on doing.
And by the way, all of.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
These years he's been doing it, he's been coming out
of his own pocket. And you got David Sack looking
at him, is like, I'll support you.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Now.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
We got a whole bunch of people here in the
crypto world, in the AI world, in the bitcoin world,
and beyond who's gonna look to help you. And he's
thinking about how financial literacy is something that's gonna be
taught to these kids, and these kids gonna be able
to go out in the world and be better young
man and probably professional football players and college graduates and
civilized contributors to our society. And we find a way

(19:26):
to have a problem with that. Really, that's what we're doing.
So Stup could do all of these things, and he
spews a few cuss words and shows up trapp trapping
like he's at the inauguration or the inauguration event.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
And that's a problem.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Y'all gonna lost y'all damn minds. But I had enough
of y'all shit. I'm gonna get into how you you've
lost your minds. Y'all gonna stop talking about my boys
like that. You gonna stop going after my boys like that.
And oh, by the way, let me tell you something

(20:12):
right now, who's the cat that for?

Speaker 2 (20:14):
From?

Speaker 1 (20:15):
From rude boys that interviewed Nelly? Again, I'm sorry, I
draw a blank Willie D. Now we all know Willie
D's come We all know Willy D's come after me.
He had a problem with me or whatever. But you see,
I'm a grown ass man, So Willie D. I got
something to say to you too.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Good job.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
That's a damn good interview with Nelly. You gave a
brother an opportunity to speak. You asked all the right questions,
the kind of questions that people wanted to know and
the kind of answers that folks wanted emanating from him.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Good job.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
See, that's what grown men do. I'm not gonna go
back at Willie D. Because he came at me in
the past. He had a difference of opinion than me.
I wish that man nothing but the best. I hope
podcast continues to flourish and shine. He did a damn
good job with that Nelly interview.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Some of y'all others out here, y'all lost, y'all.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Ever loving minds. And back to you, mister Boykin, respectfully.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
I got some things to point out that I'd like
you to consider the next time you going to kind
of diet tribe. You went on on.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
CNN, by the way, again, that was on CNN with
Abby Philip, a reporter that now has her own show
on CNN, and when I have time, and she asked
me to come. If I have time, I go and
support her and Lower Coast because they're my sisters. I
ain't apologizing for that. Nobody ain't gona stop me from
going on Handity, and't go stop me from going on
Chris Cuomo. But if the sisters call and I got

(21:48):
time in my schedule and I'm available, I happily do
it because it helps them. I saw what you said,
and I throwed the audience to some degree with what
you said. I didn't play the whole sound, Keith boykend
because we didn't have approval from CNN to play that sound.
Otherwise I would have made sure to play it all
so I could contextualize it properly.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
So I just want you to know that. But I
heard what you said.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
I watched it from start to finish, and there was
some things you left out. There's some things that Democrats
always want.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
To leave out.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
I'm sick and tired of the bullshit from the left.
And if I sound ticked off, ladies and gentlemen, that's
why I feel hoodwinked by the Democratic Party. That's why
I'm pissed. I'm not pissed because I'm a Trump support.
I didn't vote for him before, I didn't vote for

(22:43):
him this time. I'm pissed off because I feel hood winked,
and I don't like to feel hood winked.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
I'll elaborate with more about that in a minute. Stephen A.
Smith schell back with more in a second.

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Welcome back to the Steven A. Smith Show.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
I want to make sure that as I go forward,
everybody knows that I'm not getting personal and I'm not
personally attacking anyone. I'm an attack what you say and
how you feel and what you expressed, but I'm not
going to attack you, and I'm certainly wasn't attacking Keith Boyk,
and I wasn't attacking anybody. Having said that, let me

(24:40):
get to a more sensitive issue because if you go
on video right now, if you scan the digital stratosphere,
social media and beyond, you're going to see footage and
pictures of Mexicans waiting for appointments for the CPB one

(25:08):
app as basically border patrol and people trying to come
into the country or what have you. You're going to see
an abundance of Mexican citizens crying. If anybody who enjoys that,

(25:28):
who speaks of that with glee, with a smile on
their face, you really got to question their humanity because
what's happened to them is incredibly unfortunate. Upon being inaugurated
as the forty seventh President of the United States. Within

(25:48):
the hour, President Donald Trump discontinued the CPB one app
leaving migrants in Mexico heartbroken. Reading from the report here,
with many reportedly seeing crying after their appointments were canceled.
Coming in heavily to deliver his promise of restricting immigration

(26:08):
into the United States, Donald Trump banned the CBP one
app that facilitated the legal entry of nearly one million
people into the United States by granting them work eligibility.
The decision was announced just minutes after Trump was sworn
in as the forty seventh president. The impact of this
move was immediate, as people in Mexico who were waiting

(26:33):
for their CBP one parole appointments were reportedly left devastated.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Upon hearing the news.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
According to a post shared on x by a gentleman
by the name of Aurelius R. Hernandez, a journalist with
the Washington Post, some migrants in Mexico were seeing crying
when they learned that the appointments were no longer valid.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
The denied entry.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
I'm gonna repeat what I said said seconds ago. Anybody
who speaks on this subject in favor of Donald Trump's
decision with glee, with joy coming out of their mouth,
with their facial expressions, in their heart and soul, you
really really need to question their humanity. This is cruel,

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This is so unfortunate, This is so sad, but necessary.
You see, when we're talking, and this is one of
the problems that exists in politics. See, the one side

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only talks about the other side and what they do wrong.
You ain't talking about what they did right. You're not
talking about the wrong that they committed. That was a
necessary wrong. You see, that's what happens when you let
when you allow fourteen million immigrants to enter the country illegally.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
If you didn't do that. Joe Biden, who by.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
The way, made sure he departed out of office pardoning
of granting clemencyed over twenty five hundred people for nonviolent.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Offenses, not to mention all of his family members, all
of them. All of them. Okay, make sure they couldn't
be touched. If you didn't.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
Have open borders your first week on the job in
twenty twenty one, it might not have.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Come to this. You see.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
Trump talked a lot of smack, and this is the
part that he's not giving credit for He talked a
lot of smack about mass immigration and deportation and stuff
like that. In his first term, even talked about ending birthright, citizenry, citizenship,
remember that. But what did he actually do. He talked

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about building a wall, a great big wall, and the
Mexican's is gonna pay for it, And then they deduced
that he probably built about two percent.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Of the wall.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
You know why he couldn't get things done to the
degree that he had portended and it campaigned on back
in twenty sixteen, because Barack Obama was the deporter in chief.
He didn't advertise it, but he wasn't having it. He
didn't allow folks to come in mass into our country.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Nobody else allows it but us nobody.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
You can't go into Mexico like that, you can't going
to Venezuela like that. You can't go anywhere in this
world with those kind of open borders that Joe Biden okayed.
Barack Obama didn't do it. And the reason why Trump
had a hard time was because the Barack Obama was

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the deporter in chief. They said, he just didn't advertise it,
he didn't boss the brag about it.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
But had he done it, had he not done it.
I'm sorry. Then Trump could have lived up to his
campaign promises.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
But you know why Trump couldn't do that when he
was in office first go round, because he would have
mirrored Barack Obama or looked worse. We have to pay
attention to what's going on. I bring up what mister

(30:54):
Boykin said on CNN. Why because you're talking about what
respect you have or lack thereof for black people who
would perform at the inauguration. So obviously you feel the
same way about people who voted for Trump. I did neither.
I did neither. But when are you gonna understand? And

(31:16):
I know you do, sir, just like I know my
man Roland Martin. Does y'all know this better than me?

Speaker 2 (31:23):
This is y'all lane, not my lane compared to y'all.
I got that part.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Some people try to sit up there and say, Joe
Biden deported more people than Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Whatever.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
You open the borders, fourteen million people crossed. It cost
this country billions, which is the subject we'll get into
in just a second. But the reason why I brought
up what we gotta start doing. We can't keep talking
about the right. We can't keep talking about conservatives. We
can't keep talking about what are danger Donald Trump is

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to our society without mentioning the left, meaning Biden, you
want to bring up the Central Park case. Donald Trump
was clearly wrong, should have apologized. But we all know
that when that was broached, particularly during the Democratic National
Convention and the campaign trail.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
It was used as a tool to point.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
To what some would deem racial insensitivity or racist behavior
when America was worried about their own wallets. They don't
care because the vast majority of Americans are still white
in this country. Hispanics don't make up thirty percent of
the population, Blacks don't make up fifty percent of the population.
It's still a predominantly white society. That's not gonna fly
with them anymore. Because they got their own bills to

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worry about, and they all streets to worry about walking in.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
They ain't falling for it, So we got that issue.
You brought up Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
And being a landlord and not wanting to rent the
black folks. Did you mention Joe Biden and his relationship
with segregationist Robert Bird West Virginia KKK member, to bring

(33:24):
that up. See if you bring up Donald Trump with that,
You gotta bring that up. You bring up Donald Trump
with that, You gotta bring up Joe Biden, senator, prominent
senator with Clinton's crime bill that was widely accused of
contributing the mass incarceration that disproportionately affected black people in

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the nation.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Gotta bring that up at least did you forget to
bring that up?

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Or did you not want to point out how the
Congressional Black Caucus had something to do with persuading Joe
Biden the positions that he took as a senator at
that particular moment in time in the nineties when Bill
Clinton was in office.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
You gotta mention it.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Did you have any problem with Joe Biden going on
to the breakfast club and trying to define who was
black and who wasn't in terms of you choosing him
or body. If you don't vote for me, you vote
for Trump, you ain't black. We can't have it both ways,
It's all I'm saying. And right now, that's what got

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the Democrats booted out of office. That's what has them
being the minority in the House and the Senate and
how they've lost the White House. Yeah, there's something on
social media right now with Elon Musk and giving a
Nazi sign out once but twice. You're hearing about Trump

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and how he's determined to do away with entitlement programs
and what have you. And you've got minorities in this
cutry wondering what the hell is going on. First you're
attacking immigration and then you're attacking entitlement programs, so everything
is gonna be catered to white people. I already know
what everybody's saying. I'm not here to say you wrong.

(35:17):
We gonna see, we gonna see. But while we looking
to see what Trump does, we already know what the
left has done, which is why we've tired of hearing
stuff like this from Alexandria Ocassio Cortez better known as

(35:37):
AOC Take a listen.

Speaker 6 (35:39):
Well, we are on the eve of an authoritarian administration.
This is what twenty first century fascism is starting to
look like. Republicans really model themselves after Orbond's Hungry, and
so you can look to see how Victor Orbon runs

(36:00):
Hungry to get a taste of how they will try
to govern and control media and companies in the United States.
And this is kind of an entree to that as
far as what we do. You know, this is a
time of experimentation.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
A lot of people will still use platforms, can still
use platforms. But I also look towards places where you
have more ownership as well and develop your audiences there,
like Blue Sky, you own your audience. It's a protocol,
decentralized protocol.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Did you say control the media aoc By the way,
I appreciate your work. I appreciate what you.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Do for your constituencies in the Bronze, but your constituency
in the Bronx, But did you talk about controlling the media?

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Is that what you brought up? So the left has had.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
No control hunh. So the left is not engaged in
bullying tactics. So Wolke culture didn't exist where people had
to make sure they echoed the right pronoun in order
to keep their job security, where you had to sit
up there and.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
God forbid you.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
You literally challenge somebody uh with regards to transgender issues,
and you were considered to be transphobic.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Where one minute we were.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Called upon to protect the young ladies and the women
in our society, and then that got thrown out the
window the second a male was transitioning the female and
wanted to participate in female sports, and then all of
a sudden, it wasn't any consistency with the stuff that
had been being spewed beforehand and ultimately enforced, so that
as the Republicans that we need to be worried about it.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
But not y'all. Y'all would never do such a thing.
Oh my goodness, it would never be you. It would
never be y'all. That would never happen. Huh. Really, really,
this is exactly why Trump is in office.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
Racist, fascist, and all of these other names you had.
That's what you do when you're on the left, not
paying attention to the fact that a vast majority of
American people tie to that. When you're gonna tell us
a message we want to hear, when you're gonna tell
us a message we need to hear. Right now, let

(38:20):
me read to you. Read to you from the Wall
Street Journal today. Allow me to put on my reading
glasses and read this to you. Fir Betam from the
Wall Street Journal. President Trump plans to sign executive orders
to overhaul border and energy policies and indiversity programs across
the federal government, unwinding signature bidy and administration policies.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
On the first day of his second term.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
Trump's immigration plans include ending birth citizenship, deploying troops, and
declaring a national emergency at the southern border, as well
as ending asylum by speeding deportations. Trump said as he
was sworn in on Monday, quote, with these actions, we
will begin the complete restoration of America and the revolution
of common sense.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Those weren't his words. What ammunition would he have to
say such a thing? How about everything? I put it out.
Trump didn't win the election, you all lost. You put
him in there.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
And let me get real raw with this. It got
so bad with Biden an office. Racism was thrown aside.
Transgender issues don't make up one percent of this population.

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Black people make up more nearly fourteen percent of this population,
and for a vast majority of the last few years,
that issue has been more important than issues pertaining to
black people.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
It seemed that is just the truth.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
And I didn't even bring up the money. We don't
have money for police officers. We don't have money to.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Keep the streets safe.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
We don't have money to make sure there's no inflation,
or that if there is inflation, it doesn't drastically affect
us because you got enough people in America making a
hard earned, honest, fruitful living. But we got enough money

(40:48):
to let in fourteen million immigrants illegally. We got enough
money for fifty three million dollars in prepaid credit cards
in the state of New York. We got enough money
to allow seventeen cities in the United States to be
sanctuary cities.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
At least.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
We got enough money to throw billions to Ukraine. We
got enough money for all of that, but we don't
have enough money to address the American needs. I've said
to y'all on repeated occasion, what is my ultimate claim
to success? It happened in two thousand and nine when

(41:29):
I got fired and I had to take a long,
hard look on myself at myself. It's in my book
Straight Shooter, a member of Second Chances of the First Taket.
You really should read it. It's very motivational in this opirational.
She really should check it out. What did I say
back then? And epiphany hit me? And I learned to
wake up every day because ninety nine percent of us

(41:51):
have a boss. And I learned to wake up every
day and learned that my manager is how do I
make my bosses more money?

Speaker 2 (42:01):
How do I get some of it?

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Because the system is rigged, ladies and gentlemen, the power
broke is that be almost all of whom are white,
have designed a system to ensure they're going to get theirs.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
And in order for you to get yours. Even while
you're getting yours, they gonna get theirs.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
You just saw me talking about Drake and Kendrick Lamarta
other day, both of them under the Universe of Music
Group umbrella.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
You don't think there's white folks in power at the
Universal Music Group.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
You know what?

Speaker 2 (42:42):
You don't think?

Speaker 1 (42:42):
So you don't think all these artists out here that
is making money, nain't somebody white near the top or
at the top that's making sure they get this. Yere agents, lawyers, accountants.
The system is designed to make sure they get paid.
The trick is figuring out how you get paid to

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and what the Democrats did over the last few years,
will somehow managed to figure out a way to convince you, somehow,
someway you are gonna omit, eliminate and eradicate them and
have the fruits of your labor all to yourself and
the Trump administration is a declaration of the obvious hold

(43:36):
on not so fast a system don't work that way.
You can go ahead and get yours. We gonna get ours.
We ain't gonna sit here doling out all of this
money with one thing after another that ultimately compromises our

(43:56):
pockets instead.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
Of float them. That's what happened. That's the truth. And
they come uppance arrived to the left because what they
tried to do was eliminate an entire system of government

(44:21):
that the American people are not only comfortable with, but
addicted to. And everything you see right now is then
reminding you of that.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
That's why Trump and his administration teased Biden out the door,
showing a picture.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Of him and a White House and an eviction.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
Notice, that's why Elon Musk is up there doing whatever
damn symbols and signals he's doing.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
It's why change came.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
And as alarming as the change is, it seemed closer
to most Americans citizens to normalcy than what we've been
experiencing the past four years. This ain't about the right anymore.
It's about what the left tried to turn this nation
into and guilted us and fear manged us and intimidated

(45:18):
us into supporting no more, No More. Independence is the
way to go. The hell with the right and the left.
Do what's best for you and do what's best for
this country. Bump what they think, what they feel, or
how you should be.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Enough's enough. Independence is the way to go.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
Because of that reason, more than anything else, one person
who should just be quiet, not independent, but quiet.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
It's Scottie Pippot. I'll tell you why in ad minute
you're watching them. Stephen Smith show back with Morning Say
welcome back to the Steven AI Smith Show.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
Right here for the digital it was a YouTube and
of course iHeartRadio once again. This is the day we
celebrate doctor Martin Luther King Junior. I know it didn't
sound like we were doing that over the first two segments,
because unfortunately there were issues that we had to delve
into that seems antithetical to that kind of stuff. It's
a shame, it really really is one of the greatest

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human beings that have ever existed on this planet Earth,
a man of peace, of sacrifice, who loved his people,
who loved what he thought.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
This country could be.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
On a day like today where we celebrate his you know,
just everything about him. It's Martin Luther King Junior holiday.
It's not his birthday. His birthday was January fifteenth. Today
is the day we celebrate him. They designated just for him.
It seemed weird to say the least, that on a

(46:59):
day that we're celebrating him is the day that Trump
would be inaugurated. And obviously there's a lot that black
folks may feel they should be complaining about when it
comes to Trump, but there's an awful lot of black
folks out there, a heightened level of black folks who
have supported him and felt that liberal policies are the

(47:20):
kind of things that they should have been complaining about more.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
And they showed that at the voting booth. So it
is what it is. We are where we are, but.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
No matter where we are in this country, we always
pause to celebrate one of the greatest human beings God
ever placed on this earth, an angel, without question, let
me say this. Moving on to the world of sports,
before I get into Scottie Pippen and his appearance on
Patrick Bette David Podcast PbD.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
To be exact, a couple of things I wanted to
point to.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Number one, I'm here in Atlanta, Georgia for the National
Championship Game the night between the Ohio State Buckeyes and
of course Notre Dame. Notre Dames got one chance. They
have to be incredibly physical. They have to be the
more physical team. There's no other way that they're going
to beat Ohio State. Ohio State just have skilled individuals
that practically every damn position. Jeremiah Smith is the truth.

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A freshman, He's probably the best receiver in football. He
is sensational. Will Howard can throw that football at BOOKA
is no joke.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
As well.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
Treyvion Henderson running out of the backfield, There's no joke.
Ohio State with their twenty million dollar nil roster, with
eleven NFL caliber players having returned to the lineup this season,
they're the best team right now. There is no way
that No The Dame should win this game unless they
have a lot of luck, and that's gonna be facilitated

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by an elevated level of physicality.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
Their defense is no joke.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
But offensively, Riley lenn has got to run the football effectively,
and he's got to throw the football accurately and not
kill himself by committing turnovers. So I want to get
that out the way. I've got Ohio State winning this game.
I would love to see Marcus Freeman win the game.
Martin Luther King holiday in Atlanta, Georgia black coach winning
the national championship in football for the first.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
Time, and it's oh my lord, I would love it.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
I just don't see them beating the Ohio State without
an absolutely perfect game and complete panic and choke job
on a part of Ohio State.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
So I got Ohio State winning this game. Number one.
Number two.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
We saw Lamar Jackson lose last night in the AFC
Divisional playoff game to the Buffalo Bills. I know he
committed a turnover through a bad interception. I know he
also committed a full hardy turnover and losing the ball
that was ultimately scooped up by Von Miller returned a
few yards before Buffalo scored those seven points. But I

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can't put the weight of the loss to the Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
On Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
Mark Andrews is one of the most reliable tight ends
in all of football. He got stripped to the ball
in the middle of the field while they were driving
by Terrebinard. I saw Todd Munkin again knowing that the
Ravens were running the football effectively, still refusing to run
it as much as he should. First game, they blew
out Buffalo thirty five to ten. During the regular season,

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they accumulated tw hundred seventy one yards rushing. Last night
it was one seventy six. Not bad at all, but
you still could have ran the ball more. Then I
saw Lamar Jackson drive the Baltimore Ravens down the field
eighty eight yards in crunch time with the game on
the line, needing to having to have it. Twenty seven

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to nineteen was the deficit. You needed the touchdown in
the two point conversion. Lamar Jackson got you that touchdown,
and then he threw the two point conversion right into
the hands of.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Mark Andrews, who dropped it. Lamar Jackson was not perfect.
They gotta stop turning the football over. Those turnovers don't happen.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
They probably win this game, but it was still Theirs
to win, and Mark Andrews messed up not once, by twice.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Can not can't take that away from Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
Last sports subject is Jaden Daniels for the Washington Commanders.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
Ladies and gentlemen, this brother is the truth.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
Now, I know that the Detroit Lions had a bunch
of dudes on the injured reserve, on the injured list
rather on the defensive side of the ball.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
I don't give a damn. Jaden Daniels is that dude.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
Now he's got the biggest challenge of his life going
up against the Philadelphia Eagles this weekend in Philadelphia and
the NFC Championship Game for a right to go to
the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
I get that part, but I will.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
Remind all of y'all that Jayden Daniels has played the
two playoff games as a rookie. In his career, He's
accumulated over six hundred and fifty yards, six touchdowns, three interceptions,
completing seventy percent of his passes sixty five percent of
his passes. I'm sorry, the brothers the real deal, no
panic in him, and Washington knows what they have on
his hands. He's better than RG three was, and RG

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three was fantastic before Holoadly NodD and nearly had his leg.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Amputated with that vicious hit.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
Even before, well then, as great as RG three looked,
he didn't look like this.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
Jaden Daniels is the truth and a half.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
And if he beats Philadelphia with Vic Fangio's defense coming
at him and he finds a way to pull this off,
I think Jayden Daniels might win the Super Bowl. I
think Jaden Daniels might be Patrick Mahomes with Josh Allen.
I don't know that yet, but I think he could.
I just want to say that. Now, let me turn

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my attention to Scottie Pippen, six time NBA Champion, Hall
of Famer, one of the top seventy five players in
the history of basketball, who recently sat down with Patrick
Bett David and turned heads with a lot of things
that he was saying that quite frankly, I felt, well
utterly nonsensical. Give me take one with Scottie Pippen talking

(52:49):
about six rings versus Lebron.

Speaker 7 (52:51):
Listen to this, Would you put yourself ahead of Lebron
as a team standpoint?

Speaker 8 (52:57):
My success as a team is more successful pulling Lebron.
I got six rings.

Speaker 7 (53:04):
Okay, So then if I if I talk to an
NBA owner, By the way, this is very helpful because
this is very helpful because for me as a fan,
I've followed this. So if I speak from an NBA
standpoint owner, and I want to find an all around
player to be my number one. You think the average
owner is going to pick you or Lebron?

Speaker 8 (53:28):
I don't know, got it?

Speaker 2 (53:31):
Okay?

Speaker 8 (53:32):
So that you want individual accolade, so you want championships
because I didn't chase Minds Scottie.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Come on, bro, excuse my language. That's some straight bullshit.
Stop stop.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
I challenge anybody to find me a better defensive player
than Scottie Pippen. Michael Jordan has said on many occasions
he doesn't win six rings without Scotty, and not get
that Scotty.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
You were never that dude offensively, stop stop it. Now.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
I'm as critical of Lebron James as anybody who's fair minded,
not these haters out here and not these people that
you know. I'm neither a hater, nor I'm the one
that kisses his touch every chance you get. Lebron James
is one of the top two three players in the
history of basketball, and you know it.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
How do we know?

Speaker 1 (54:33):
You know that there's certain times you flirted with him
being better than Michael Jordan, and you know that's blasphemy.
But you were never that offensive player.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
Scottie. You know how we know because when Jordan retired
the first go around, you had an opportunity to be
that dude.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
You were an All Star, you know, All Star Game VP.
You took them to the Eastern Conference semifinals. The Hugh
Hollins callt was awful against Hubert Davis on you. I
got that against you rather on Hubert Davis. I got
that part. But Scottie Pipper, you didn't get it done.
And if you were that dude, how come you couldn't
be like Kobe and be like Yo, I want Shaq gone.

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I want to show you what the hell I could
do without Shaq in your case, without Michael Jordan. Know,
when Michael Jordan was on, you kicked up your feet
to show you with wearing Jordan's begging him to stop
playing baseball and to come back.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
You forgot that, Scottie.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Tell her you talking about and we can accuse Lebron
James of a lot of things. The brother got four rings, Scotty,
He's got four He's been to ten NBA finals and
by the way, he never had a migraine in a
game seven. It never happened only to you. But I digress.

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Let's hear from Scottie Pipper again, because he wasn't. He
didn't stop there. He was talking about who his goat is.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
Magic is goat. Listen to this.

Speaker 8 (56:05):
It's not even worth talking about the two of them.
When you ask who's better Lebron or Michael, you can't
ask me who's the goat between Lebron and Michael. Neither
one of them are goats. They both won differently. You
can't put them at the top of the pinnacle. Magic Johnson,

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to me, is a bigger goat than anybody because of
how he laid how he brought a whole team, how
when the greatest scorer in the game, Karem was not
there in him as a rookie center steps in and
plays a position that no one even knew he could play.

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That's transcending what you can do as a player.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
See that's the bullet right there, not bullster right there,
right there, right there.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
You just told them yourself. I'm gonna get to that
in a second. What's the game.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Great job by Patrick David. Great job, well, Scott, he
didn't stop dad when it came to the goat. Listen
to what he said here about.

Speaker 7 (57:10):
Himself, you saying I want to be remembered as the
greatest of all time. How much of that was really
what you believed in. How much of that was you
trying to sell a book, and how much of that
was somebody behind closed doors flattering you, saying you didn't
get enough credit for what you did during the Chicago's run.

Speaker 4 (57:28):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (57:30):
I think it's just me believing in myself in the
way that I played the game. I did it were
I won, I played the right way. My teammates loved
the way that I played, and people my peers respected
the way that I played, and I feel like that

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I got out of the game everything that I put
into it.

Speaker 7 (57:58):
Flattery is to put a little wedge between you. I
know it's not a comfortable thing to probably talk about,
But did any of that happen where someone was saying,
come on, Scotty, Michael would have never won six without you.
Come on, Scotty this and Michael said it himself. But
from your standpoint, no.

Speaker 8 (58:17):
That's you know. The reason why I say stuff like
that is because when you play the game the way
that I played it, you play on both ends. Why
can't I say that.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
Oh, that's Okay, you can say that.

Speaker 8 (58:31):
So no one I'm saying you can't say yeah and
say it and mean it. Oh so you do believe
that I'm saying, yeah, look at my Look at the stats.
I got six rings two. Look at my accolades, I
got defensive player all NBA. So playing the game the
right way in winning mean something to me, and it

(58:52):
meant a lot to me. I don't have the MVPs,
but guess what somebody that was with me got it.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
Oh my god, drug test him now? I want test.
Take him into ka urine sample, get a blood test.
Drug test him now. You got to be kidding me.
I can't believe what we just heard. I can't believe it.
And damn Patrick Brett Davis, I love you, but let

(59:22):
me tell you something right now. If you try to
tell me that Scottie Priveleys is justified and calling himself
the best, you need to be drug tested too. Olius, Olius?
How you gonna be? How you the best when you
wann't even the best on your own team? How you
the best when you want even the number one option?

Speaker 3 (59:39):
I mean?

Speaker 9 (59:40):
What?

Speaker 2 (59:41):
Oh? This it?

Speaker 1 (59:43):
It hurts me because I don't want to do this.
If you're the best. Why were you calling for Jordan?
If you're the best. Why were you pouting on a
bench when Phil Jackson called Tony Kooker coach's number instead
of yours in a playoff series against the Knicks? If

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you the best, why was Bill Cartwright in the locker
room crying while excoriating you from abandoning your teammates? You led,
you led, You also quit, you quit. You had a
migraine in eighty seven. I mean you had a migraine
in a Game seven against the Pistons.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Michael Jordan was.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
Left crying on the bus in his daddy's arms, talking
about where we're gonna win. Bill Cartwright already told you
was crying. What are you talking about? Michael Jordan averaged

(01:00:47):
over thirty. About eight or nine times you played defense.
Michael Jordan wasn't First team All NBA Defensive Team. Nine
times you had to play defense because you wanted that
great offensively tremendous athleticism.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
Six ' nine, could.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
Dunk on anybody, as Patrick Ewan would tell you, had.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
A sporadic jump shot.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
You were big enough, in physical enough, and talented enough
to score on an open court. But a number one
option key the pond. That wasn't your game. That was
Lebron's game. That wasn't your game. That was Kobe's game.
That wasn't your game. That was Michael Jordan's game. Hel
Vince Carter was a number one option. Helen Officer was
a number one option. What are you talking about? What

(01:01:39):
are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
Goat? You?

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
You wanted a great ones, you wanted a great one Scotti,
But the goat when your teammate was Scott was Michael Jordan. Oh,
by the way, I didn't even bring up when you
went to Portland because you wanted your money, you went
to Portland. Wasn't that you went to wat Portland trail
up about fifteen in that game seven when Kobe through
the alley oop to Shaq, who brought down the house one?

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
That's your team? What's y'all?

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
One trip away from the finals. Wasn't that you were
talking about? He's talking about?

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
I got a question, Pat Bet Patrick bet David. I
got a question.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Because you like your basketball, you know your basketball. A
lot of you don't realize how much you know about basketball.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
What a big NBA fan you are. I got a
question for you. Was there ever a time, Patrick Bette Davis.
That's right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
I'm calling you out, my brother, because I love you. You
know I love you and the crew. Y'all know that
I was just hanging out with you another day. Let
me ask you a question, man, is there any time
in your lifetime watching basketball that you either set yourself
or heard somebody say Scottie Pippen was in a gold conversation?

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
Ever? I got another question for you. Has Scottie Pippen.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
All of these years ever said that he's been asked
about Jordan and Lebron or Jordan versus Lebron, or Jordan
versus Kobe forever. Scottie Pippen never told nobody, Nah, it's
actually me that should be in their conversation. But the
book is out now, and the book's been out for
a while, and he's still salty about the Last Dance

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because it was about Jordan instead of the team, not
realizing the power of television, and television knew that selling
talking about the Bulls as the Last Dance, if it
didn't come through the prism of Jordan, would have never
been popular. But he doesn't get that this television, it's film.
If it didn't go through the Prism of Jordan. It

(01:03:34):
had never sold, but neither here nor there. The fact
of the matter is, do we have a picture of
his book? Do you have a pictures of the book cover?
I mean, we gotta get that at some point put
up on full screen.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
We gotta do that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
We gotta do that for Scotty, because clearly you want
to sell a book. Because we ain't heard this before.
We ain't heard this before. I ain't gotta be kidding me, Yeah,
I'll be kidding me.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Oh my lord.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
Everybody need to get truck tested first, even me. Hell,
I need to get drug tested. I might smart smoking,
so we just I can get.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
Let me do something. I might start smoking, so weed.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
Just to get this damn thinking, I just damn thinking
out of my head.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
This is blasphemy. Better than Lebron, better than MJ.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
Come on, man, come on, man, you know better than that.
I'm gonna leave this alone from now. I might have
to revisit this in a couple of days, but I
gotta move on because I gotta get on out of here.
Maybe the biggest story of the week, and bigger than
the NFL playoffs and this Scottie Pippen stuff and all
of that and the inauguration combined was to shut down

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a subsequent respiration of TikTok, which is being credited to
Trump by many, by the way, including those of TikTok.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
That'll up next. That's what I need to discuss.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
Roe Connor, Representative out of the seventeenth District of California
Congressional figure.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
He's up next. Don't go away. Got something to show
y'all about TikTok. You don't want to miss it before
I get on out of here today, right here on
the Stephen A.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
Smith Show, because I got a head on over to
the National Championship game between Notre Dame and the Ohio
State tonight in Atlanta, Georgia. Let me touch on this
story involving TikTok, the restoration of TikTok, because it was
canceled as blacked out. You know, it was blacked out
in the United States of America as you can see there,
you know, people crying, kids crying, everybody going crazy and

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stuff like that. And then it ultimately was restored and naturally,
now President Donald Trump, then President elect Donald Trump, was
taking credit for its restoration at its celebration and stuff
like that. But Before I get into that, I want
to show you Donald Trump speaking about TikTok years ago
when he was the president, and then him speaking about

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it recently taken credit for its restoration.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
Take a look.

Speaker 10 (01:06:02):
When I wanted to disable TikTok three years ago, I
was met with opposition from Rhinos, Democrats and everyone else.
They actually went to court in an effort to stop me.

Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
We're looking at TikTok.

Speaker 10 (01:06:15):
We may be banning TikTok, we may be doing some
other things.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
There are a couple of options, but a.

Speaker 7 (01:06:20):
Lot of things are happening, so we'll see what happens.

Speaker 10 (01:06:23):
But we are looking at a lot of alternatives.

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
With respect to TikTok. We gave them until September fifteen.
After that they got a close shop. Okay, that's TikTok.
We're looking at TikTok.

Speaker 10 (01:06:37):
We're thinking about making a decision.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
We're going to be watching the hearings today.

Speaker 10 (01:06:41):
Very closely, because there's no question is that watching the
big tech companies are doing. And as of today, TikTok
is back. So you know, I did a little TikTok thing.

Speaker 3 (01:07:03):
We have a guy TikTok.

Speaker 10 (01:07:04):
Jackie is a young kid like twenty one years old,
and we hired this guy and I went on TikTok
and you believe what I'll do to win an election.
And we went on TikTok and Republicans.

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
Have never won the young vote, the youth vote.

Speaker 10 (01:07:20):
They win a lot of votes, but they never won
the youth vote. We won the youth vote by thirty
six points.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
So I like TikTok.

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
I like him.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
Now he likes it. Amazing what election time can do
for you. So and he's got TikTok because the executive
for TikTok was at the inauguration. Of course, Jeff Bezos
for Amazon was there. Mark Zuckerberg for Meta, Facebook, Instagram,
he was there, and of course Elon Musk for x
is there. Notice how your now president is insulating himself

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with individuals who control airwave spend, et cetera. Because all
the newspapers in the country, all the television networks, they
don't have the reach these streaming platforms have, and you
have an opportunity to control dissemination.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
Of messages the world over.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
Everybody don't have ESPN and Fox News and all of
this stuff. But they got TikTok, they got asks, they
got meta, Facebook, Instagram, that kind of thing they got that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
These most of them do.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
Anyway, before I get to Representative Connor on his show
with Me, I wanted you to see what Roland Martin
had to say about this whole TikTok brew ha ha.
And now President Donald Trump take a look.

Speaker 11 (01:08:52):
So let me explain to y'all real quick, the con
artist Donald Trump. It was Donald Trump who called for
the ban of TikTok. It was Donald Trump who pushed
Congress to get it done. More Republicans voted to ban
TikTok than Democrats. Go look at Charlie Kirk okay, Trump's

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biggest ass kisser. You know what he was saying. He
was tweets saying, We've got to get rid of TikTok.
The Chinese government owns it. Now it's oh, we have
to save TikTok. So Donald Trump is going to try
to set him up as oh I saved TikTok when
he was the one who initiated the band. Y'all got
to stop falling for the okie dope with this con artist, Okay,

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just stop falling for it. And so if he tries
to force to be sold to American he wants it
to be sold to his conservative folks so they can
control TikTok, Twitter, Meta, Instagram and all the platforms.

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
Don't be conned exactly. Rollingmand is absolutely right.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
The only thing Rollandmard did wrong in that video was
the outfit that he was wearing because the Houston Texas
just got sent told by the Can City Chiefs. Although controversially,
I might add, because so many people thought that that
phantom call against uh in favor of Patrick Mahomes, against
Will Anderson and those boys was ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
But the only thing.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
Wrong with what Roland Martin, what Roland Martin showed you
there was the outfit he was wearing because they Home
and Kansas City Chiefs are the n AFC Championship game. Yet, again,
having said all of that, he's not wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
We could see that Boo boo, the fool could see that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
We know exactly what Donald Trump is doing with this
regard because he wants TikTok to be purchased, you know,
away from Byte Dance, which is China owned and owned
by some US cooperation, probably some conservative on and yet
as a result, they'd be beholden to him and his
messaging and so you have a situation where it'd be
again TikTok, Meta, Facebook, Instagram, Acts, etc.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
You know Amazon with its distribution on because.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
It ain't just goods and services they got, they got
a streaming on itself that is for formidable and is
growing every single day with Jeff Bezos at the Helm. Okay,
I got news for you. Look at who Donald Trump
has surrounded himself with. He's insulated himself and at any
given moment as the President of the United States, he's
gonna have a heavy hand. The dams saw this, but

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you still messed up because you didn't have a candidate
to beat him. It's that simple. You did this to yourself.
That's just the truth. But that's a different subject for
another day. Staying with TikTok, there is a Democratic representative
that's been doing good work and has been saying some
very productive things on this subject for very substantive reasons.

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He is a representative out of the seventeenth District of California.
He is mister Roe Connor. He is with me right now,
Representative Connor.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
How are you so? How's everything going good? Stephen?

Speaker 9 (01:11:47):
And thank you for having me on your show. I've
been a fan for years, so I'm glad to be on.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
The honor and privileges mindset.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
Before I even get into these questions about TikTok, I'm
assuming that you yourself, your family, your homes are safe,
and everything is okay with you out in California.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
I think it'd be appropriate to start there, sir. How
are things.

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 9 (01:12:08):
I'm up in the north of the state, Silicon Valley,
so we've been safe. Unfortunately, some of the constituents have
family friends.

Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
In La which has just been devastated.

Speaker 9 (01:12:20):
I'm glad we were talking earlier, and I'm glad your
home is okay, but I'm sure you know a ton
of people who just lost their homes devastated. Some people
haven't been able to move back in. It's just been awful,
and I hope the country can come together to rebuild
and forget the politics, and people's lives are in stake,
their homes are at stake. We got to come together
on this.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
I completely agree with you, absolutely, and that's something that
we're going to talk about in the days, the weeks,
and the months to come.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
Make no mistake about that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
But one of the other things that have basically rocked
the foundation of America at least for at least for
a little bit, was the specter of TikTok being canceled.
And obviously you've been a preeminent voice on that issue.
Just to educate my audience, tell the audience about what
the whole TikTok issue is about and what your position
on it has been all along.

Speaker 9 (01:13:08):
There is a concern that TikTok is owned by a
Chinese Communist Party's affiliate, some company connected to the Chinese
Communist Party. Now sixty percent of the investors are American.
But the concern was could our data go to the
Chinese government or could the Chinese government interfere with the algorithm?

(01:13:32):
And what I said is okay, if you have those concerns,
first of all, show evidence of it, show evidence that
it's TikTok doing it and not data brokers or other
social media And let's pass a law saying it's illegal
to take any American data and give it to the
Chinese Communist Party, or pass the law saying the Chinese
Commutist Party shouldn't be interfering on any social media algorithm.

(01:13:54):
But instead, what the law did is it called for
banning it, and I'll tell you I talked to some
of the people on TikTok.

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
I mean, folks think it's all song and dance or
just sports. It's not.

Speaker 9 (01:14:05):
I mean I talked to a mom. Her husband cheated
on her. She's got four kids, two toddlers, two special
needs kids. She was broke on one of her friends
couches for four months, and then she started telling her
story on TikTok. And she makes sixty to seventy grand
to take care of her kids. Someone else is paying rent.
And all of this was going to get shut down.

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And so we had a one point three million people
in forty three forty eight hours sign a petition saying
keep this up. And fortunately, even though it went dark,
it's now up. And I don't think banning the app
is the solution.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
When people wanted it banned. Who exactly were these people
number one and number two? What was the most profound
argument you were concerned was being made to indeed band TikTok.

Speaker 3 (01:14:57):
Well, a lot of these people were China hawks. They
said that we.

Speaker 9 (01:15:01):
Can't have China have any control over Americans data.

Speaker 3 (01:15:07):
And if I actually thought that.

Speaker 9 (01:15:10):
Our data was getting in the hands of the Chinese
Communist Party through tiktak, and that there was no other
way to prevent it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:16):
I'd be for the ban, but there are other solutions.

Speaker 9 (01:15:19):
The Texas Project, for example, says make sure all the
data is managed by Oracle, and you can't have any
of the data leave the United States. If I really
thought the Chinese Commuties Party was doing this algorithm to
manipulate things, I'd be concerned.

Speaker 3 (01:15:34):
That was the concern.

Speaker 9 (01:15:36):
But look, Steve and I we have a history in
this country of using national security concerns for government overreach.
We've in turned all the Japanese with Fdr maccarthier, we
called everyone a communist. I think this was government overreach.

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
You know, I've thought about that myself.

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
The thing that kind of scared me, what have you,
is when they kept like you called them China hawks.
I mean, that's an appropriate way to label those folks.
But when they brought in issues of using these apps,
these algorithms, etc. To sort of spy on us, to
indoctrinate our children with certain things. And then you see,
I have two daughters, and you see how addicted these

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young minds.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
Are to TikTok.

Speaker 1 (01:16:14):
The part about adults using it as a small business
essentially to generate revenue for themselves. That's entirely different than
youngsters using it, it being a form of education for them,
a news outlet for them in various situations, many situations,
I might add, what about those China Hawks who made

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those concerns?

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
How much did that move you? If at all?

Speaker 3 (01:16:39):
Well, the young people reaching out moved me a lot.

Speaker 9 (01:16:41):
I had a lot of messages and nieces who've been
in Congress eight years who've never cared about a single
thing I did, who suddenly started texting me saying, please
save TikTok.

Speaker 3 (01:16:50):
And there's a lot.

Speaker 9 (01:16:51):
Of good uses of TikTok given for young folks, whether
they're building community of whether they're learning on education. Now,
social media has harms, and I'm not going to deny
that some of the social media has harmed young people,
particularly young girls, where they're eating disorder issues or suicidal thoughts.
And so fine, let's pass there's a Kid's Online Safety

(01:17:14):
Act that says, let's create a standard so that any
of these apps, whether it's Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, should not
be proliferating things to young folks that are going to
cause harm. But you can't just ban the app and
take away a sense of community for folks. And this
most of the people in Congress.

Speaker 3 (01:17:31):
Here's the hypocrisy that I want to point out.

Speaker 9 (01:17:33):
They voted for the band, and then they go tell
their campaign teams go get me the most followers on
TikTok because that's where the voters are. And everyone, every
member of Congress, every stand or everyone running.

Speaker 3 (01:17:44):
For president wanted to grow their following. So there was
a lot of hypocrisy in the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
We sort of had a TikTok the own of TikTok
he was seeing at now President Donald Trump's inauguration.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
What are we to make of that?

Speaker 9 (01:17:58):
In your eyes, I'm sure they have some kind of
an agreement, you know. I believe that he's probably trying
to curry favor with Trump. In my view, we shouldn't
allow Trump to be the savior here. It should be
a position that even Democrats say that there should be

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American investment.

Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
But not a band.

Speaker 9 (01:18:24):
But my guess is that that was orchestrated with Trump
and the TikTok CEO, that it would go dark for
twelve hours and then Trump would reinstate it and they
probably have some agreement already.

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
How much would from a percentage standpoint representative of Connor,
how much would you say in terms of support you've
received from the left as opposed to the other side
of the isle on the right, How would you percentage wise?
What kind of percentage would you place on a level
of support you've received with your position on this.

Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
You know, it's been both.

Speaker 9 (01:18:56):
Actually, I think a lot of it on the TikTok
position of the one point three Mills signature is.

Speaker 3 (01:19:00):
Probably over half.

Speaker 9 (01:19:02):
Because I'm on the left and as the democratic politician,
over half of it has been the left.

Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
But we've also had conservatives.

Speaker 9 (01:19:08):
And the reality is there are a lot of young
people who have out of the mainstream views, whether it's
on foreign policy, whether it is on policies that are
more conservative, and they're saying, you get all these politicians
saying we want young people involved. Then they get involved
on these apps and they're taking those apps away. So
I you know, I think we're moving in this country
not to left right, but more towards people questioning the

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establishment and wondering are you for people or are you
going to just do what this Beltway establishment has done?
And Frankly, I think for the Democratic Party to get
on the right side of this, we got to be
listening to people.

Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
It's one of the reasons I enjoy your.

Speaker 9 (01:19:44):
Commentary even when I don't agree with you, because you
don't just listen to what the think tank in groups
tell you. You know, one of the biggest myths in Washington.
They tell you two hundred groups are for something, and
I want to know how many people, because a lot
of times it's two hundred groups with one hundred and
thirty people, and they just make these organizations up and
they're not listening to people on the ground.

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
You know, I really are really appreciated and more than
you know you saying that about me a congressman, because
here's the thing. I don't pretend to be right all
the time, not by a long shot. What I'm saying
is the information that is available to us, I look
at it and deduce what my opinion should be based
on the information that's given. Somebody like you are significantly

(01:20:24):
more informed. You'll know more than I do.

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
So will others.

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
But you know the argument I make to people like that,
I say to them, I'm the voter, because most voters
aren't as you know, in tuned with all of the
intel and all of the information, what are you gonna
say to the voter out there you don't know?

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
Excuse me.

Speaker 1 (01:20:41):
They know enough to decide what they want to vote
about and what they want to vote in favor of.
And I think that's important that you mentioned that, because
I think that's one of the things that so many
people miss. They're really ready to come back and talk
about what's right or wrong as opposed to looking at
the information that's disseminated and understanding. People are basing their feeling,
the emotions, their passions based off of the intel that

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has been presented to them.

Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
So I think it's important to say that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:06):
Having said that, there are different versions of TikTok in
other countries, could you explain why that is and whether
or not that is a concern you may have.

Speaker 9 (01:21:17):
Well, look, this is one of the reasons other countries
like India era others have banned TikTok because they felt
that TikTok was going to propagate at false information or
propaganda a couple of things.

Speaker 3 (01:21:32):
One, I actually think the free speech tradition in.

Speaker 9 (01:21:34):
America is very strong, and they are multiple apps, and
we can educate young people and our citizens to have
common sense. I wouldn't under undersell yourself, Staven. I mean,
you may not have all the details, but you've got
common sense and you have.

Speaker 3 (01:21:48):
An independent opinion.

Speaker 9 (01:21:50):
Like I don't know, a lot of times I see
people on TV, I can tell you exactly what they're
going to say. I can finish their sentences. In your case,
I don't know, is he going to be for the
democratic position? Is he going to agree sometimes with the
end of tender republican position? Because it's common sense, that's
what most people are. And I think what we need
to focus in this country on is making sure in
high school and junior high school kids have the ability

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to think for themselves and then be on multiple platforms
instead of being so hyper concerned about where they're going
to get their information.

Speaker 2 (01:22:19):
Got it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:20):
Should the fact that TikTok is banned in mainland China
be of concern because it clearly is. I mean, I
don't want to accuse you of not being concerned about it,
but certainly it doesn't supersede whether you feel.

Speaker 2 (01:22:34):
Are you concerned about that at all?

Speaker 3 (01:22:36):
Well, I'm concerned about China in general banning, not just TikTok,
But why why do they ban X?

Speaker 9 (01:22:41):
I mean, I think Elon Musk had a reasonable point
that if we're going to allow TikTok, you should be
allowing X, you should be allowing Instagram. But look, China
is not the United States of America. I mean, the
reason everyone around the world wants to come to the
United States of America is because we're a free country,
because you can have differences of opinion. So, yeah, China
has created a huge manufacturing base, They've created.

Speaker 3 (01:23:04):
A trillion dollar export economy. But you can't have an
opinion there.

Speaker 9 (01:23:08):
You can't criticize ggiping, you can't go run for office,
you can't be a commentator with a podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:23:15):
I don't want to live in that society. So is
China playing fear? No?

Speaker 9 (01:23:19):
But does that mean that America should model ourselves over China.
Absolutely not. We're a better organized society.

Speaker 1 (01:23:27):
You've led legislation right to keep the app? Where do
you go from here? Because it was canceled and now
it's back up, but we don't know how long.

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
What do you what do you think is next?

Speaker 9 (01:23:38):
Well, Rand Paul and I have legislation to try to
repeal the legislation that calls for a ban of TikTok
and have something more common sense that says protect Americans
data with a data privacy law, protect American social media
from foreign interference by the Chinese Counties Party or other adversaries.
But if that legislation doesn't pass, and it's an uphill

(01:24:00):
to get enough House and Senate members, I'm going to
work with Michael Waltz, who's President Trump's National security advisor.
He and I were colleagues on the House Armed Services
Committee in Congress, and to work with him to see
how do we have a resolution to.

Speaker 3 (01:24:15):
This so that you don't have this drama happening every ninety.

Speaker 9 (01:24:19):
Days, but that we get TikTok operational compliant, assuring people
that their data is.

Speaker 3 (01:24:26):
Going to be safe.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
Representative of Rocana, Representative Congressman from the seventeenth District of California.
It's been a non and a privilege to have you
on today, sir, Thank you so much. You take care
maia honor.

Speaker 3 (01:24:36):
Thank you for having me and talking about this.

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
Yes, sir, you are what he had to say, It's
a lot to think about, and especially taking into account
what he explained and what Roland Martin pointed out, and
what we've seen is the visuals alone. We need to
keep our eyes on what exactly is going to happen
with the TikTok yes has been restored for how long?
What legislation, if any, will be passed out to the

(01:24:59):
Republic have control of the House and the Senate and
the White House. And then in the aftermath of all
of that, if it ultimately is confiscated from the hands
of some Chinese entity and it's placed in the hands
of someone in America or businesses in America, how beholden
will those businesses be.

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
To Donald Trump?

Speaker 1 (01:25:20):
And how will the narratives be influenced now and for
years to come. You can call it whatever you want.
They can call it fascism or whatever the case may be.
Hell in the end, we don't know. They might be right.
But all it would mean if you're a Democrat, if
you're a Democratic representative, if you're a member of that

(01:25:43):
side of the aisle, all it would mean is that
you did it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
Not the American people.

Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
Had you taken care of us the way you were
supposed to, by making sure the right things were important
to the constituency, it would not have come to this
It's on y'all, not us, not people like me who
voted for you and now people like Donald Trump supporters

(01:26:14):
who voted against you and voted for him.

Speaker 2 (01:26:17):
You did this, he was done in twenty twenty one.
You resurrected him. Live with that.

Speaker 1 (01:26:27):
We know we have to, but we damn sure don't
have to listen to you tell us, especially when you're
the ones that fall in the end. I'm out, y'all.
Stephen A signing off, see you in a couple of days.
Peace of love,

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